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NafalloPhilip5: ping00:24
Philip5Nafallo: pong00:25
NafalloPhilip5: du sag att jag sparkade ut goteborg?00:25
Philip5såg att du sparkade ut någon kille men följde inte riktigt bakgrunden förutom att han bara snackade annat00:26
NafalloPhilip5: gothenburg med nytt namn. han har senaste veckorna bara trollat politik.00:27
Philip5aha, det är samma snubbe?00:27
Philip5ok då hänger jag med00:27
Philip5såg vad han skrev innan du kickade honom00:27
Nafallojapp. blev lite val mycket politik till slut... kanns som att vi inte borde tillata den biten allt for mycket. speciellt inte som det verkar som regeringen driver igenom en del saker till slut :-)00:28
Philip5nä och det är ett helt onödigt ämne i en ubuntukanal00:29
Philip5som gjort att skapa osämja00:29
Nafallobra. skont att veta att vi ar pa samma niva :-)00:29
Philip5finns andra ställen att snacka sånt på i så fall00:29
Nafalloprecis :-)00:29
Philip5snackar man offtopic så tycker jag det får vara lite allmänna nerdgrejer eller väder och vind00:30
Philip5typ inte sånt som är som gjort att skapa tjaffs00:30
Nafallovi ar snalla nog som det ar hur som... jag tanker bara aggera pa det om det gar till overdrift, som idag :-)00:30
Philip5samma här00:30
Nafallo:-D00:31
Philip5så länge det är god ton och bra stämning så är det ju ofta lugnt00:31
Nafallosa... opar. behover vi fler? yeager ar ju knappast aktiv, men i nulaget har jag inte sett nagon vardig ersattare heller :-/00:31
Philip5nä det är lite tunnsått med vettigt folk som är regulars.... mycket kids och så annars00:32
Nafalloyeager och ozamosi forutom dig och mig :-P00:33
Philip5men ozamosi är väl aldrig här nu för tiden00:33
Nafalloprecis00:33
Nafallodu, jag och freenode staff da :-P00:34
Philip5hehe00:35
Nafallojohanbr, einand eller EAG kanske?00:36
Nafallodelhage annars, men kanns lite markligt med tanke pa vem han jobbar for :-)00:37
Nafalloiofs, behover inte vara nagon storre angelagenhet.00:38
Philip5Nafallo: jobbar delhage på microsoft eller?01:07
Philip5johanbr verkar rätt ok och einand också01:08
NafalloPhilip5: redhat :-)01:08
Philip5EAG kan säkert hålla ordning på folk men kanske inte har så mycket linuxkunnande om nu det ska vara ett krav01:08
Nafalloeinand kan iofs vara ratt envis ibland :-P01:11
Nafallotror iofs vi kan se om vi behover fylla pa forst.01:12
Philip5funkar det inte så får man väl göra en ändring på det om någon av dem skulle missköta sig01:15
Nafallosant.01:16
Nafallojohanbr is another op on #ubuntu-se :-)01:55
Nafallofor whenever people read their scrollback ;-)01:56
Nafallojohanbr: kommer upp lite roliga diskussioner har da och da, men ar oftast dott. jag och Philip5 anvande den har kanalen nar vi pratade om vem vi skulle kunna tanka oss att ha som op ocksa :-)01:58
johanbrOk. Nåt ska man väl ha den till. :)01:58
Philip5jo01:58
Philip5så man kan snacka lite bakom ryggen ;)01:59
Philip5nä så illa är det inte01:59
Nafallotror den ar loggad ocksa :-P01:59
johanbrDåligt ställe att göra planer för världsherravälde, alltså. :)02:01
Nafallohehe02:03
MyrttiHi HardDisk :-P06:33
HardDiskgood morning, I was wondering about having channel op status for #ubuntu-eg, I already am in the process of applying for ubuntu-membership on the 17th for EMEA and the current op of #ubuntu-eg has not been active for over 3 months (not joined), nor has his LoCo status.06:33
HardDiskhehe hi :)06:33
HardDiskstalking me I see :)06:33
Myrttinope, I'm an op of #ubuntu-fi so I've been here for loooooong loooong time06:34
Myrtti:-)06:34
HardDiskalrighty, well I made my comment, and hope to hear some positive feedback.06:34
Myrttiohmy06:35
Myrttithat channel access list is sad beyond belief06:35
HardDiskyes I know, because the LoCo leader hasn't made any effort.06:36
HardDiskHopefully in due time with my work http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SamAzab I will even apply to take over as LoCo leader.06:36
HardDiskeven mentioned are my irc support at #ubuntu and I have ops to back this claim such as Jack_Sparrow06:37
HardDiskand even started a small blog :) http://sambuntu.blogspot.com06:37
Myrttithat's cool, when you're approved you can put it to planet ubuntu like I did the day before yesterday :-)06:38
HardDiskso effort is being made.  Also hopefully I will have gathered some people to do a proper Install fest.06:38
HardDiskyea, I love reading Planet ubuntu, to be honest one of my favorite people brandonperry (just made a new member) writes nice articles.06:38
HardDiskI would write in Arabic, but I doubt that anyone would understand it :) so I will leave that part to my personal blog06:39
HardDiskit's 8:40am here, I know time zone differences is annoying, so I will just idle here while I prepare to go finish some work and might get a reply.06:40
Myrttihehe06:40
Myrttisame timezone than me then06:40
Myrttiforgot that totally06:41
HardDisknice meeting you btw :)06:41
MyrttiI just read your wiki page and had a glance of your blog06:41
Myrttinice work06:41
HardDisksmall things, nothing big, I'm not a linux guru06:41
HardDiskbut I do what I can06:41
Myrttithat's how I started, you seem to have found some intresting stuff06:42
HardDiskright now I'm just doing some arabic translation on launchpad for Blueman and might continue other work I left off.06:42
Myrttiwhich reminds me that I should blog about few findings of my own06:42
HardDiskI try to keep my blog personalized, you know what I mean? nothing fancy for the intermediate ubuntu user.06:43
HardDiskI keep things informal and fun a bit for the noobie06:43
Myrttiyeah06:43
Myrttiyou know, this might just be the incentive I needed to finish my blog post about bash, rsync, tar, split06:44
HardDisknice06:44
MyrttiIt's been on draft stage for over six months >___<06:44
HardDiskI'd definitely read the bash one06:44
Myrttiwell basically it's all about the one thing, my backup system06:45
HardDiskoh and tar, you reminded me I will write a blog about file compressions good idea :)06:45
HardDiskah06:45
HardDiskwell wouldn't sbackup for example be easier?06:45
Myrtti1.2G/home/backup/backup-latest-desktop.tar.bz2.0006:45
Myrtti2008-06-10_00:33:17 desktop packed 2008-06-09 laptop not packed06:45
HardDisksince that's what it is basically, a frontend to rsync06:45
HardDiskhave you tried sbackup?06:45
HardDiskor because your method is CLI06:46
Myrttinope, I didn't know it was there when I drafted my first outlines of the script I use three years ago :-)06:46
HardDiskah you see06:46
HardDisksomeone beat you to it :)06:46
Myrttiyep06:46
HardDiskit's a really nice application too, very easy and customizable06:46
HardDiskI use that as well as remastersys06:47
HardDiskremastersys if you haven't heard of it, you can create your own ubuntu bootable from your current installation.06:47
Myrttibut now I'be got a script that backups my home dirs on three machines, excluding stuff I don't like to be backupped (music, video, virtual machines (those are backupped differently)) etc.06:47
HardDiskso after I install all my apps etc I can make either a redistributable dvd with the installed updated apps and create a dvd that is basically a livecd version of my installation including /home/ dir06:48
Myrtticool06:48
HardDiskactually it's supported by Linux Mint06:48
HardDiskI made a few "update" ubuntu dvd's that way so I don't have to download updates from the net, especially to people's computers where they don't have fast DSL (256kbps)06:49
HardDiskor if I dont want to carry my portable HD with 30GB of mirrored repositories06:49
HardDisknow I talked too much, the people incharge won't see my request :/06:50
HardDiskall your fault!! :D06:50
Myrttihehe06:51
Myrttithey'll have their backlogs06:51
Myrttiif not, I'll poke them06:51
HardDiskthanks Myrtti :)06:51
HardDiskbtw..since the meeting is on 17th 18:00UTC I think it was, IF you want to support me for membership I'd appreciate it :D06:52
MyrttiPriceChild: ^ would you mind checking that the EMEA meeting is added to the fridge calendar since it apparently isn't right now, thanks.06:53
HardDiskno pressure...06:53
Myrttihrmhmp06:54
MyrttiI rely on these things to the fridge.ubuntu.com calendar06:54
Myrttiwhich seems to be out of date on EMEA meeting, again.06:54
Myrtti*grumble*06:54
HardDiskI forgot the nick that told me but it was the guy who is actually arranging/head of it..06:55
HardDiskhe told me about it, so that's why I applied yesterday to be able to come to the 17th meeting06:55
MyrttiSeveas...06:56
HardDiskthat's it06:56
HardDiskSeveas06:56
Myrttiwould you mind poking him about it too06:56
HardDisktell him what exactly?06:56
Myrttioh, I think I'll poke him myself06:57
Myrttisince I poked about the exact same thing last week06:57
Myrttiwell, this week actually06:57
HardDiskoh ok06:57
Myrttithere06:58
HardDiskI'll leave him a message on the channel06:58
MyrttiI msg'd him already06:58
HardDiskok06:58
HardDiskI don't like to pm ops :) not polite.06:58
Myrttiheheh06:58
HardDiskthanks btw06:58
Myrttinp06:58
HardDiskok back to my work06:59
HardDiskttyl06:59
Myrtti:-)07:00
HardDiskbreak time :)08:29
HardDiskphew...08:29
HardDiskplease check the room Myrtti if you have op status08:39
HardDiskbullgard, tenX and mohadib08:39
Myrttihum, #ubuntu?08:43
HardDiskyea just keep an eye out.08:43
bangky_hi guys, anyone free to answer a query?10:59
elkbuntudo you mean question or /query?11:01
bangky_umm.. question :)11:01
elkbuntuask away11:01
bangky_thanks :) was wondering whether the ubuntu-sg channel still exists?11:01
stdinlooks like the channel is still registered but empty11:04
stdinand the contact hasn't been seen in a year11:05
bangky_yep, that's appears to be the case :)11:06
stdinand seeing as the contact is the only one on the access list, I'd say it's dead11:08
bangky_stdin: :(11:12
HardDiskI wonder if any channel op is available and has read my backlog request, if not I am willing to repeat what I request.11:22
jribHardDisk: better to repeat it instead of making that statement :)11:23
HardDisk:)11:23
HardDiskok11:23
HardDiskgood morning, I was wondering about having channel op status for #ubuntu-eg, I already am in the process of applying for ubuntu-membership on the 17th for EMEA and the current op of #ubuntu-eg has not been active for over 3 months (not joined), nor has his LoCo status.Hopefully in due time with my work http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SamAzab I will even apply to take over as LoCo leader. Even mentioned are my irc support at #ubuntu and I have ops to11:24
HardDisk back this claim such as Jack_Sparrow and even started a small blog :) http://sambuntu.blogspot.com11:24
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* elkbuntu bops HardDisk over the head11:54
HardDiskhaha sorry!11:54
elkbuntunot a problem. i may have let it go on so that any egyptians who read the meeting logs find out ;)11:55
HardDiskno problem11:56
HardDiskmafeesh moshkila11:57
HardDiskthat's another word to learn for the day, ok no more :)11:57
HardDiskwell two words..11:57
elkbuntu:)11:58
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meisokhi there, I am now an Ubuntu member (https://launchpad.net/~meisok), can someone please give me an "ubuntu/member/meisok" cloak? Thank you.16:22
jpdsPriceChild: ^16:22
Myrttimeisok: have you setup your nick already?16:25
Myrtti!register16:25
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.16:25
Myrttifollowed *all* the steps?16:25
jpdsMyrtti: yeah, I took him through it.16:25
meisokMyrtti:16:26
meisokI think that if16:26
Myrttijolly good16:27
meisok:)16:27
jpdswelcome back stdin16:28
stdinwifi is such a fickle creature :/16:28
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meisokdone!! thanks!! ;)16:58
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twaxhi22:19
twaxis this the right place to ask about the community guidelines and related topics?22:19
Nafallono.22:21
Nafallonot sure where either, but #ubuntu could probably guide you.22:22
PriceChildtwax: which guidelines/topics?22:22
twaxdoes the use of a full stop after your single "no" mean something like "dont dare to ask further"?22:22
Nafallono. it just means that this is not the correct channel for discussing the CoC :-)22:23
twaxand #ubuntu seems to be a channel about technical questions rather than a place to talk to members of the irc concil22:23
Nafallooh. this is the IRC Council's channel. guess it's not the CoC you want to discuss then :-)22:24
twaxs/concil/council/22:24
twaxNafallo: are you a random chatter or somebody who is in the council?22:24
NafalloI'm an op at another Ubuntu channel. not in the council.22:24
PriceChildtwax: what's the question you want to ask?22:25
twaxNafallo: i would appreciate it then when you leave the answers to those people who know what they are talking about22:25
twaxPriceChild: hang on a moment till the noise settles22:25
Nafallothey idle here. just ask :-)22:25
elkbuntutwax, you have not actually asked any question, only if you can ask a question. it's best if you ask it so we *know* where it fits rather than leaving us to *guess*22:25
twaxmore noise. more moments to wait22:26
elkbuntuand please, dont insult people with ubuntu/member/$nickname cloaks. they generally *do* know what they're talking about.22:26
twaxand i am not going into details here on this channel after the weird attitude of Nafallo and elkbuntu22:26
elkbuntuthat's a free 'community guideline' tip.22:26
twaxi am not going for more noise which will most likely lead to disharmony22:27
elkbuntutwax, i am the irc council. care to be less rude and waste less of my time?22:27
twaxelkbuntu: you are a person. the council seems to be a group of people. i would like to talk to an alternative member. you seem not appropriate for my problem22:27
elkbuntuPriceChild, is also one. but since you've now lost your window of opportunity to talk to me, since i need to go do stuff post haste, you're now back to a singular. sorry.22:28
twaxyeah, you better leave this to other people, thank you22:29
twaxproblem is when you are supposed to complain to a barking dog about barking dogs and try to stay peaceful the same time. this can hardly work out for a new user22:29
twaxwhen i receive more abuse while i try to report abuse, then i slowly get the feeling it requires more powerful weapons to sharpen this22:30
Nafallotwax: sorry about my hard no. I translated 'community guidelines' to the 'code of conduct' in my brain. feel free to ask your question :-).22:30
twaxNafallo: your "no" was not hard. the noise you created was just ... irritating22:31
twaxand yes, i know it would be worse on #ubuntu with 800 losers22:31
Nafallotwax: well. you are the one creating noise at the moment... what was the question again? :-)22:32
twaxdude. that people who join a channel to receive some form of support most likely creates some noise for those who idle there without positive intentions22:32
twaxmaybe you just part?22:32
Nafallonot likely.22:33
* jussi01 hugs Nafallo22:33
twaxsince you have a shiny cloak you could spend your time with development related tasks22:33
twaxinstead of making fun of grumpy users22:33
twaxi find that more ... constructive22:33
Nafallotwax: I've been doing that since 4.10...22:34
twaxNafallo: today matters. get busy, please.22:34
Nafallotwax: also. the cloaks are for ubuntu members. you can be one of those by any contribution :-)22:34
twaxno, really. you can offer payment and i wont accept such a cloak22:35
Nafallotwax: no one makes you :-)22:35
twaxto be unaffiliated is the way to go. less risks to be associated with people you cant respect22:35
twaxat least i learn about the value of the community guidelines indirectly :)22:36
twaxharder this way, but it seems to work22:36
Nafallotwax: I'm an individual even if I'm part of Ubuntu.22:36
twaxyou signed a piece of paper i guess22:36
twaxlike some other people who enjoy being abusive pricks22:36
Nafalloyou are clearly out of focus for that discussion :-)22:37
twaxbut you are doing whatever you do "since 4.10" so you obviously make the right "people" happy22:37
Nafalloand no. I cryptographically signed a text on launchpad ;-)22:38
Nafallonope. I'm not.22:38
NafalloI'm only maintaining a single application.22:38
twaxbut you must be pretty damn proud of it when you have to mention that you "develop" since 4.1022:39
Nafallotwax: I'm proud of being part of this community since before the first version came out indeed :-)22:39
twaxnow i learned something about the value of the community guidelines _and_ i turned amused from being grumpy. thats not bad22:39
Nafalloyay! success for me then :-)22:40
NafalloI tend to like amused people better.22:40
twaxsuccess would imply that you had a plan. which would be very, very silly of you to claim22:41
jussi01twax: is there something we can help you with?22:41
twaxcause from my point of view it looks like an ubuntu developer is trolling a user on the channel where people usually receive support with irc council related problems22:41
twaxjussi01: hang on a moment. let me check first who you are inside this community before i run into the next "successor"22:42
jussi01twax: this is the international IRC operators channel for IRC problems withing the international channels - for the main channels, #ubuntu-ops is the place.22:43
twaxno i dont think #ubuntu-ops is the right place22:43
twaxat least not when i read the wiki right22:43
jussi01twax: you came here with an issue - was it within the intenational (loco) channels, or within the main channels #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc?22:44
twaxjussi01: i need a bit more time to lookup some data22:45
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twaxi think i found a nice person who i can contact :)22:53
twaxhave a fantastic day you all22:53
johanbrSo in the end he made all this noise over... nothing?22:53
Nafallojapp. stammer bra :-P22:54

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