[00:24] <Nafallo> Philip5: ping
[00:25] <Philip5> Nafallo: pong
[00:25] <Nafallo> Philip5: du sag att jag sparkade ut goteborg?
[00:26] <Philip5> såg att du sparkade ut någon kille men följde inte riktigt bakgrunden förutom att han bara snackade annat
[00:27] <Nafallo> Philip5: gothenburg med nytt namn. han har senaste veckorna bara trollat politik.
[00:27] <Philip5> aha, det är samma snubbe?
[00:27] <Philip5> ok då hänger jag med
[00:27] <Philip5> såg vad han skrev innan du kickade honom
[00:28] <Nafallo> japp. blev lite val mycket politik till slut... kanns som att vi inte borde tillata den biten allt for mycket. speciellt inte som det verkar som regeringen driver igenom en del saker till slut :-)
[00:29] <Philip5> nä och det är ett helt onödigt ämne i en ubuntukanal
[00:29] <Philip5> som gjort att skapa osämja
[00:29] <Nafallo> bra. skont att veta att vi ar pa samma niva :-)
[00:29] <Philip5> finns andra ställen att snacka sånt på i så fall
[00:29] <Nafallo> precis :-)
[00:30] <Philip5> snackar man offtopic så tycker jag det får vara lite allmänna nerdgrejer eller väder och vind
[00:30] <Philip5> typ inte sånt som är som gjort att skapa tjaffs
[00:30] <Nafallo> vi ar snalla nog som det ar hur som... jag tanker bara aggera pa det om det gar till overdrift, som idag :-)
[00:30] <Philip5> samma här
[00:31] <Nafallo> :-D
[00:31] <Philip5> så länge det är god ton och bra stämning så är det ju ofta lugnt
[00:31] <Nafallo> sa... opar. behover vi fler? yeager ar ju knappast aktiv, men i nulaget har jag inte sett nagon vardig ersattare heller :-/
[00:32] <Philip5> nä det är lite tunnsått med vettigt folk som är regulars.... mycket kids och så annars
[00:33] <Nafallo> yeager och ozamosi forutom dig och mig :-P
[00:33] <Philip5> men ozamosi är väl aldrig här nu för tiden
[00:33] <Nafallo> precis
[00:34] <Nafallo> du, jag och freenode staff da :-P
[00:35] <Philip5> hehe
[00:36] <Nafallo> johanbr, einand eller EAG kanske?
[00:37] <Nafallo> delhage annars, men kanns lite markligt med tanke pa vem han jobbar for :-)
[00:38] <Nafallo> iofs, behover inte vara nagon storre angelagenhet.
[01:07] <Philip5> Nafallo: jobbar delhage på microsoft eller?
[01:08] <Philip5> johanbr verkar rätt ok och einand också
[01:08] <Nafallo> Philip5: redhat :-)
[01:08] <Philip5> EAG kan säkert hålla ordning på folk men kanske inte har så mycket linuxkunnande om nu det ska vara ett krav
[01:11] <Nafallo> einand kan iofs vara ratt envis ibland :-P
[01:12] <Nafallo> tror iofs vi kan se om vi behover fylla pa forst.
[01:15] <Philip5> funkar det inte så får man väl göra en ändring på det om någon av dem skulle missköta sig
[01:16] <Nafallo> sant.
[01:55] <Nafallo> johanbr is another op on #ubuntu-se :-)
[01:56] <Nafallo> for whenever people read their scrollback ;-)
[01:58] <Nafallo> johanbr: kommer upp lite roliga diskussioner har da och da, men ar oftast dott. jag och Philip5 anvande den har kanalen nar vi pratade om vem vi skulle kunna tanka oss att ha som op ocksa :-)
[01:58] <johanbr> Ok. Nåt ska man väl ha den till. :)
[01:58] <Philip5> jo
[01:59] <Philip5> så man kan snacka lite bakom ryggen ;)
[01:59] <Philip5> nä så illa är det inte
[01:59] <Nafallo> tror den ar loggad ocksa :-P
[02:01] <johanbr> Dåligt ställe att göra planer för världsherravälde, alltså. :)
[02:03] <Nafallo> hehe
[06:33] <Myrtti> Hi HardDisk :-P
[06:33] <HardDisk> good morning, I was wondering about having channel op status for #ubuntu-eg, I already am in the process of applying for ubuntu-membership on the 17th for EMEA and the current op of #ubuntu-eg has not been active for over 3 months (not joined), nor has his LoCo status.
[06:33] <HardDisk> hehe hi :)
[06:33] <HardDisk> stalking me I see :)
[06:34] <Myrtti> nope, I'm an op of #ubuntu-fi so I've been here for loooooong loooong time
[06:34] <Myrtti> :-)
[06:34] <HardDisk> alrighty, well I made my comment, and hope to hear some positive feedback.
[06:35] <Myrtti> ohmy
[06:35] <Myrtti> that channel access list is sad beyond belief
[06:36] <HardDisk> yes I know, because the LoCo leader hasn't made any effort.
[06:36] <HardDisk> Hopefully in due time with my work http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SamAzab I will even apply to take over as LoCo leader.
[06:37] <HardDisk> even mentioned are my irc support at #ubuntu and I have ops to back this claim such as Jack_Sparrow
[06:37] <HardDisk> and even started a small blog :) http://sambuntu.blogspot.com
[06:38] <Myrtti> that's cool, when you're approved you can put it to planet ubuntu like I did the day before yesterday :-)
[06:38] <HardDisk> so effort is being made.  Also hopefully I will have gathered some people to do a proper Install fest.
[06:38] <HardDisk> yea, I love reading Planet ubuntu, to be honest one of my favorite people brandonperry (just made a new member) writes nice articles.
[06:39] <HardDisk> I would write in Arabic, but I doubt that anyone would understand it :) so I will leave that part to my personal blog
[06:40] <HardDisk> it's 8:40am here, I know time zone differences is annoying, so I will just idle here while I prepare to go finish some work and might get a reply.
[06:40] <Myrtti> hehe
[06:40] <Myrtti> same timezone than me then
[06:41] <Myrtti> forgot that totally
[06:41] <HardDisk> nice meeting you btw :)
[06:41] <Myrtti> I just read your wiki page and had a glance of your blog
[06:41] <Myrtti> nice work
[06:41] <HardDisk> small things, nothing big, I'm not a linux guru
[06:41] <HardDisk> but I do what I can
[06:42] <Myrtti> that's how I started, you seem to have found some intresting stuff
[06:42] <HardDisk> right now I'm just doing some arabic translation on launchpad for Blueman and might continue other work I left off.
[06:42] <Myrtti> which reminds me that I should blog about few findings of my own
[06:43] <HardDisk> I try to keep my blog personalized, you know what I mean? nothing fancy for the intermediate ubuntu user.
[06:43] <HardDisk> I keep things informal and fun a bit for the noobie
[06:43] <Myrtti> yeah
[06:44] <Myrtti> you know, this might just be the incentive I needed to finish my blog post about bash, rsync, tar, split
[06:44] <HardDisk> nice
[06:44] <Myrtti> It's been on draft stage for over six months >___<
[06:44] <HardDisk> I'd definitely read the bash one
[06:45] <Myrtti> well basically it's all about the one thing, my backup system
[06:45] <HardDisk> oh and tar, you reminded me I will write a blog about file compressions good idea :)
[06:45] <HardDisk> ah
[06:45] <HardDisk> well wouldn't sbackup for example be easier?
[06:45] <Myrtti> 1.2G	/home/backup/backup-latest-desktop.tar.bz2.00
[06:45] <Myrtti> 2008-06-10_00:33:17 desktop packed 2008-06-09 laptop not packed
[06:45] <HardDisk> since that's what it is basically, a frontend to rsync
[06:45] <HardDisk> have you tried sbackup?
[06:46] <HardDisk> or because your method is CLI
[06:46] <Myrtti> nope, I didn't know it was there when I drafted my first outlines of the script I use three years ago :-)
[06:46] <HardDisk> ah you see
[06:46] <HardDisk> someone beat you to it :)
[06:46] <Myrtti> yep
[06:46] <HardDisk> it's a really nice application too, very easy and customizable
[06:47] <HardDisk> I use that as well as remastersys
[06:47] <HardDisk> remastersys if you haven't heard of it, you can create your own ubuntu bootable from your current installation.
[06:47] <Myrtti> but now I'be got a script that backups my home dirs on three machines, excluding stuff I don't like to be backupped (music, video, virtual machines (those are backupped differently)) etc.
[06:48] <HardDisk> so after I install all my apps etc I can make either a redistributable dvd with the installed updated apps and create a dvd that is basically a livecd version of my installation including /home/ dir
[06:48] <Myrtti> cool
[06:48] <HardDisk> actually it's supported by Linux Mint
[06:49] <HardDisk> I made a few "update" ubuntu dvd's that way so I don't have to download updates from the net, especially to people's computers where they don't have fast DSL (256kbps)
[06:49] <HardDisk> or if I dont want to carry my portable HD with 30GB of mirrored repositories
[06:50] <HardDisk> now I talked too much, the people incharge won't see my request :/
[06:50] <HardDisk> all your fault!! :D
[06:51] <Myrtti> hehe
[06:51] <Myrtti> they'll have their backlogs
[06:51] <Myrtti> if not, I'll poke them
[06:51] <HardDisk> thanks Myrtti :)
[06:52] <HardDisk> btw..since the meeting is on 17th 18:00UTC I think it was, IF you want to support me for membership I'd appreciate it :D
[06:53] <Myrtti> PriceChild: ^ would you mind checking that the EMEA meeting is added to the fridge calendar since it apparently isn't right now, thanks.
[06:53] <HardDisk> no pressure...
[06:54] <Myrtti> hrmhmp
[06:54] <Myrtti> I rely on these things to the fridge.ubuntu.com calendar
[06:54] <Myrtti> which seems to be out of date on EMEA meeting, again.
[06:54] <Myrtti> *grumble*
[06:55] <HardDisk> I forgot the nick that told me but it was the guy who is actually arranging/head of it..
[06:55] <HardDisk> he told me about it, so that's why I applied yesterday to be able to come to the 17th meeting
[06:56] <Myrtti> Seveas...
[06:56] <HardDisk> that's it
[06:56] <HardDisk> Seveas
[06:56] <Myrtti> would you mind poking him about it too
[06:56] <HardDisk> tell him what exactly?
[06:57] <Myrtti> oh, I think I'll poke him myself
[06:57] <Myrtti> since I poked about the exact same thing last week
[06:57] <Myrtti> well, this week actually
[06:57] <HardDisk> oh ok
[06:58] <Myrtti> there
[06:58] <HardDisk> I'll leave him a message on the channel
[06:58] <Myrtti> I msg'd him already
[06:58] <HardDisk> ok
[06:58] <HardDisk> I don't like to pm ops :) not polite.
[06:58] <Myrtti> heheh
[06:58] <HardDisk> thanks btw
[06:58] <Myrtti> np
[06:59] <HardDisk> ok back to my work
[06:59] <HardDisk> ttyl
[07:00] <Myrtti> :-)
[08:29] <HardDisk> break time :)
[08:29] <HardDisk> phew...
[08:39] <HardDisk> please check the room Myrtti if you have op status
[08:39] <HardDisk> bullgard, tenX and mohadib
[08:43] <Myrtti> hum, #ubuntu?
[08:43] <HardDisk> yea just keep an eye out.
[10:59] <bangky_> hi guys, anyone free to answer a query?
[11:01] <elkbuntu> do you mean question or /query?
[11:01] <bangky_> umm.. question :)
[11:01] <elkbuntu> ask away
[11:01] <bangky_> thanks :) was wondering whether the ubuntu-sg channel still exists?
[11:04] <stdin> looks like the channel is still registered but empty
[11:05] <stdin> and the contact hasn't been seen in a year
[11:06] <bangky_> yep, that's appears to be the case :)
[11:08] <stdin> and seeing as the contact is the only one on the access list, I'd say it's dead
[11:12] <bangky_> stdin: :(
[11:22] <HardDisk> I wonder if any channel op is available and has read my backlog request, if not I am willing to repeat what I request.
[11:23] <jrib> HardDisk: better to repeat it instead of making that statement :)
[11:23] <HardDisk> :)
[11:23] <HardDisk> ok
[11:24] <HardDisk> good morning, I was wondering about having channel op status for #ubuntu-eg, I already am in the process of applying for ubuntu-membership on the 17th for EMEA and the current op of #ubuntu-eg has not been active for over 3 months (not joined), nor has his LoCo status.Hopefully in due time with my work http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SamAzab I will even apply to take over as LoCo leader. Even mentioned are my irc support at #ubuntu and I have ops to
[11:24] <HardDisk>  back this claim such as Jack_Sparrow and even started a small blog :) http://sambuntu.blogspot.com
[11:54]  * elkbuntu bops HardDisk over the head
[11:54] <HardDisk> haha sorry!
[11:55] <elkbuntu> not a problem. i may have let it go on so that any egyptians who read the meeting logs find out ;)
[11:56] <HardDisk> no problem
[11:57] <HardDisk> mafeesh moshkila
[11:57] <HardDisk> that's another word to learn for the day, ok no more :)
[11:57] <HardDisk> well two words..
[11:58] <elkbuntu> :)
[16:22] <meisok> hi there, I am now an Ubuntu member (https://launchpad.net/~meisok), can someone please give me an "ubuntu/member/meisok" cloak? Thank you.
[16:22] <jpds> PriceChild: ^
[16:25] <Myrtti> meisok: have you setup your nick already?
[16:25] <Myrtti> !register
[16:25] <Myrtti> followed *all* the steps?
[16:25] <jpds> Myrtti: yeah, I took him through it.
[16:26] <meisok> Myrtti:
[16:26] <meisok> I think that if
[16:27] <Myrtti> jolly good
[16:27] <meisok> :)
[16:28] <jpds> welcome back stdin
[16:28] <stdin> wifi is such a fickle creature :/
[16:58] <meisok> done!! thanks!! ;)
[22:19] <twax> hi
[22:19] <twax> is this the right place to ask about the community guidelines and related topics?
[22:21] <Nafallo> no.
[22:22] <Nafallo> not sure where either, but #ubuntu could probably guide you.
[22:22] <PriceChild> twax: which guidelines/topics?
[22:22] <twax> does the use of a full stop after your single "no" mean something like "dont dare to ask further"?
[22:23] <Nafallo> no. it just means that this is not the correct channel for discussing the CoC :-)
[22:23] <twax> and #ubuntu seems to be a channel about technical questions rather than a place to talk to members of the irc concil
[22:24] <Nafallo> oh. this is the IRC Council's channel. guess it's not the CoC you want to discuss then :-)
[22:24] <twax> s/concil/council/
[22:24] <twax> Nafallo: are you a random chatter or somebody who is in the council?
[22:24] <Nafallo> I'm an op at another Ubuntu channel. not in the council.
[22:25] <PriceChild> twax: what's the question you want to ask?
[22:25] <twax> Nafallo: i would appreciate it then when you leave the answers to those people who know what they are talking about
[22:25] <twax> PriceChild: hang on a moment till the noise settles
[22:25] <Nafallo> they idle here. just ask :-)
[22:25] <elkbuntu> twax, you have not actually asked any question, only if you can ask a question. it's best if you ask it so we *know* where it fits rather than leaving us to *guess*
[22:26] <twax> more noise. more moments to wait
[22:26] <elkbuntu> and please, dont insult people with ubuntu/member/$nickname cloaks. they generally *do* know what they're talking about.
[22:26] <twax> and i am not going into details here on this channel after the weird attitude of Nafallo and elkbuntu
[22:26] <elkbuntu> that's a free 'community guideline' tip.
[22:27] <twax> i am not going for more noise which will most likely lead to disharmony
[22:27] <elkbuntu> twax, i am the irc council. care to be less rude and waste less of my time?
[22:27] <twax> elkbuntu: you are a person. the council seems to be a group of people. i would like to talk to an alternative member. you seem not appropriate for my problem
[22:28] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, is also one. but since you've now lost your window of opportunity to talk to me, since i need to go do stuff post haste, you're now back to a singular. sorry.
[22:29] <twax> yeah, you better leave this to other people, thank you
[22:29] <twax> problem is when you are supposed to complain to a barking dog about barking dogs and try to stay peaceful the same time. this can hardly work out for a new user
[22:30] <twax> when i receive more abuse while i try to report abuse, then i slowly get the feeling it requires more powerful weapons to sharpen this
[22:30] <Nafallo> twax: sorry about my hard no. I translated 'community guidelines' to the 'code of conduct' in my brain. feel free to ask your question :-).
[22:31] <twax> Nafallo: your "no" was not hard. the noise you created was just ... irritating
[22:31] <twax> and yes, i know it would be worse on #ubuntu with 800 losers
[22:32] <Nafallo> twax: well. you are the one creating noise at the moment... what was the question again? :-)
[22:32] <twax> dude. that people who join a channel to receive some form of support most likely creates some noise for those who idle there without positive intentions
[22:32] <twax> maybe you just part?
[22:33] <Nafallo> not likely.
[22:33]  * jussi01 hugs Nafallo
[22:33] <twax> since you have a shiny cloak you could spend your time with development related tasks
[22:33] <twax> instead of making fun of grumpy users
[22:33] <twax> i find that more ... constructive
[22:34] <Nafallo> twax: I've been doing that since 4.10...
[22:34] <twax> Nafallo: today matters. get busy, please.
[22:34] <Nafallo> twax: also. the cloaks are for ubuntu members. you can be one of those by any contribution :-)
[22:35] <twax> no, really. you can offer payment and i wont accept such a cloak
[22:35] <Nafallo> twax: no one makes you :-)
[22:35] <twax> to be unaffiliated is the way to go. less risks to be associated with people you cant respect
[22:36] <twax> at least i learn about the value of the community guidelines indirectly :)
[22:36] <twax> harder this way, but it seems to work
[22:36] <Nafallo> twax: I'm an individual even if I'm part of Ubuntu.
[22:36] <twax> you signed a piece of paper i guess
[22:36] <twax> like some other people who enjoy being abusive pricks
[22:37] <Nafallo> you are clearly out of focus for that discussion :-)
[22:37] <twax> but you are doing whatever you do "since 4.10" so you obviously make the right "people" happy
[22:38] <Nafallo> and no. I cryptographically signed a text on launchpad ;-)
[22:38] <Nafallo> nope. I'm not.
[22:38] <Nafallo> I'm only maintaining a single application.
[22:39] <twax> but you must be pretty damn proud of it when you have to mention that you "develop" since 4.10
[22:39] <Nafallo> twax: I'm proud of being part of this community since before the first version came out indeed :-)
[22:39] <twax> now i learned something about the value of the community guidelines _and_ i turned amused from being grumpy. thats not bad
[22:40] <Nafallo> yay! success for me then :-)
[22:40] <Nafallo> I tend to like amused people better.
[22:41] <twax> success would imply that you had a plan. which would be very, very silly of you to claim
[22:41] <jussi01> twax: is there something we can help you with?
[22:41] <twax> cause from my point of view it looks like an ubuntu developer is trolling a user on the channel where people usually receive support with irc council related problems
[22:42] <twax> jussi01: hang on a moment. let me check first who you are inside this community before i run into the next "successor"
[22:43] <jussi01> twax: this is the international IRC operators channel for IRC problems withing the international channels - for the main channels, #ubuntu-ops is the place.
[22:43] <twax> no i dont think #ubuntu-ops is the right place
[22:43] <twax> at least not when i read the wiki right
[22:44] <jussi01> twax: you came here with an issue - was it within the intenational (loco) channels, or within the main channels #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc?
[22:45] <twax> jussi01: i need a bit more time to lookup some data
[22:53] <twax> i think i found a nice person who i can contact :)
[22:53] <twax> have a fantastic day you all
[22:53] <johanbr> So in the end he made all this noise over... nothing?
[22:54] <Nafallo> japp. stammer bra :-P