[09:23] <gnomefreak> anyone here use (and dont yell) evolution?
[10:46] <asac> fta: there?
[10:48] <asac> ok other plan .... i get some coffee and breakfast ;)
[10:55] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:55]  * gnomefreak misses coffee
[10:56] <asac> latte ;)
[11:11] <Yannig> Hello everybody
[11:11] <Yannig> Hi asac
[11:28] <asac> hi
[11:29] <asac> Yannig: :)
[11:29] <asac> Yannig: for your question: you have to run runpo2xpi instead of po2xpi
[11:29] <asac> that should give you a good .xpi
[11:30] <asac> po2xpi just creates translations in the same directory structure that en-US.xpi has .... runpo2xpi takes that directory structure and shakes it to become a good langpack
[11:30] <asac> for the language you are looking at
[11:33]  * asac has to reset router .... looks shaky
[11:35] <asac_> ok done
[11:38] <rzr> gnomefreak: hi
[11:38] <rzr> gnomefreak: you asked for usb phone couple of days ago
[11:38] <gnomefreak> hi be back
[11:38] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:39] <rzr> my friend uses this one :
[11:39] <rzr>  pk1 usb phone yealink works on linux : http://forum.skype.com/lofiversion/index.php/t47138.html
[11:41] <rzr> who said "“I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone”
[11:41] <rzr> ?
[11:44] <Yannig> asac> Thanks but I have no xpi file :-(
[11:45] <Yannig> (or I have not looked enough)
[11:45] <gnomefreak> rzr: thanks
[11:45] <asac_> Yannig: ?
[11:45] <asac_> mkdir tmp
[11:45] <asac_> cd tmp/
[11:45] <asac_> run from there
[11:45] <asac_> after taht there should be directory "firefox" with the .xpi in it
[11:47] <Yannig> Great :)
[11:47] <Yannig> And now, how can I have my Firefox use that xpi file?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> why dont we have a gui editor for gtk :(
[11:52] <asac> Yannig: you can install it as any .xpi
[11:53] <asac> firefox firefox/en-US.xpi xulrunner/en-US.xpi
[11:53] <asac> well replace that with your real .xpi name
[11:53] <asac> if both pop up as properly installed in tools -> addons
[11:54] <asac> you can use:
[11:54] <asac> LANG=es_ES firefox
[11:54] <asac> (if you want to test spanish translation)
[11:54] <asac> Yannig: ^^
[11:56] <gnomefreak> color
[11:56] <gnomefreak> damn
[11:56] <Yannig> Pffff, I'm really dumb
[11:56] <asac> rather "untrained" :)
[11:57] <Yannig> yannig@yannig-portable:~/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src$ ./runpo2xpi en_US.xpi xulrunner-oc.po firefox_firefox-oc.po
[11:57] <Yannig> ls: cannot access *.jar: No such file or directory
[11:57] <Yannig> /bin/sed : impossible de legir chrome.manifest : No such file or directory
[11:57] <Yannig> /bin/sed : impossible de legir install.rdf : No such file or directory
[11:57] <Yannig> PWD=/tmp/po2xpi.LraFY29693/en_US.xpi/new
[11:57] <Yannig> CMD=/home/yannig/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src/po2xpi en_US.xpi ../firefox_firefox-oc.po
[11:58] <Yannig> /tmp/po2xpi.LraFY29693/en_US.xpi/new
[11:58] <Yannig> MAKING START DIR: /home/yannig/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src/en_US.xpi
[11:58] <Yannig> PWD: /tmp/po2xpi.LraFY29693/en_US.xpi
[12:00] <Yannig> or even worse...
[12:01] <Yannig> yannig@yannig-portable:~/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src$ ls
[12:01] <Yannig> en-US.xpi
[12:01] <Yannig> yannig@yannig-portable:~/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src$ ./runpo2xpi firefox en-US.xpi xulrunner-oc.po firefox_firefox-oc.po
[12:01] <Yannig> The XPI file must exist, I can't find firefox
[12:01] <Yannig> Usage:
[12:01] <Yannig> runpo2xpi application_name xpifile.xpi pofile.po pofile.po .....
[12:03]  * gnomefreak hopes you are doing this for fun or because you changed something inside .xpi
[12:03] <gnomefreak> mozilla has them on thier ftp.mozilla.org
[12:04] <Yannig> gnomefreak> I'm translating into Occitan
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:05] <Yannig> (and no idea how to change this en-US name :)
[12:05] <Yannig> )
[12:12]  * gnomefreak assuming you cant just rename it?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> if not maybe there is a file inside the .xpi that defines the name
[12:14] <Yannig> The most problem is not the name :$
[12:15] <Yannig> I just cannot create a valid xpi file :$
[12:27]  * gnomefreak wonders why they would pull working packages out of repos :(
[12:32] <Yannig> Pfff, I give up :-(
[13:05] <Yannig> asac: Do you agree with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Testing_your_translation ?
[13:05] <fta> hi
[13:05] <fta> asac, pong
[14:05] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/flock-2.0b1.png
[14:11] <fta> asac, I'm not sure about what to do for flock addons. either i link flock/extensions to xul-addons/ext, or i link to ff-addons/ext (and then i install flock theme in there), or i keep a distinct path and then all extensions must install a link to there.. or i hack the code to look for 2 paths
[16:29] <asac> fta: go for xul-addons for now (imo)
[17:16] <asac> Yannig: setp 5. is not required. you just run "runpo2xpi" ... and then you end up with .xpi's
[17:16] <Yannig> asac: I'll try again from scratch then
[17:16] <fta> asac, when i do that, i get: "Flock could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration. Please contact the author about this problem."
[17:17] <asac> fta: xulrunner langpacks conflict?
[17:17] <asac> fta: usually that error message happens if you have an extension without chrome.manifest (even empty is ok)
[17:17] <Yannig> asac: Still does not work :-(
[17:17] <Yannig> yannig@yannig-portable:~/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src$ ./runpo2xpi firefox oc-FR.xpi xulrunner.po firefox_oc.po
[17:17] <Yannig> The XPI file must exist, I can't find firefox
[17:17] <asac> or if there is a compreg.dat clutter that cannot be updated because of missing write permissions
[17:18] <asac> Yannig: the .xpi file is the original en-US.xpi :)
[17:18] <asac> not the one you want
[17:18] <fta> asac, indeed, the xul langpacks are loaded, but no idea which addon(s) triggered that error
[17:18] <asac> fta: look for an addon that doesnt have a chrome.manifest
[17:18] <fta> i just have dom and venkman installed
[17:18] <asac> most like a flock extension
[17:19] <fta> plus the flock theme
[17:19] <Yannig> "./runpo2xpi firefox en-US.xpi xulrunner.po firefox_oc.po" does not work either :-(
[17:19] <asac> fta: yeah ... flock theme
[17:19] <asac> fta: check if there is a chrome.manifest at all
[17:19] <fta> but it was ok before
[17:19] <asac> Yannig: you dont want xulrunner.po there
[17:20] <Yannig> "./runpo2xpi firefox en-US.xpi firefox_oc.po" neither :
[17:20] <asac> Yannig: what happens?
[17:20] <Yannig> yannig@yannig-portable:~/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src$ ./runpo2xpi firefox en-US.xpi firefox_oc.po
[17:20] <Yannig> The XPI file must exist, I can't find firefox
[17:20] <Yannig> Usage:
[17:20] <Yannig> runpo2xpi application_name xpifile.xpi pofile.po pofile.po .....
[17:20] <asac> do you have the en-US.xpi?
[17:20] <Yannig> Nothing more :-(
[17:20] <asac> well ... the en-US.xpi needs to exist
[17:20] <Yannig> yannig@yannig-portable:~/occitan/firefox/launchpad/po2xpi/src$ ls
[17:20] <Yannig> en-US.xpi
[17:21] <Yannig> (the one created with po2xpi
[17:21] <Yannig> )
[17:21] <asac> Yannig: try firefox-3.0
[17:22] <Yannig> Nope
[17:22] <asac> ok en-US.xpi doesnt exist
[17:22] <asac> i looked at the code
[17:23] <asac> Yannig: the en-US.xpi is bogus
[17:23] <asac> you need the real one
[17:23] <Yannig> Arf
[17:23] <asac> the one in the langpack
[17:23] <Yannig> Where could I find it?
[17:23] <asac> for you its most likely a directory
[17:23] <Yannig> Yep, it is
[17:23] <asac> Yannig: they are currently produced during build and uploaded to rosetta
[17:24] <asac> so atm the en-US.xpi is only available in the distribution langpack export
[17:24] <asac> e.g. get the complete ubuntu langpack tarball
[17:24] <asac> in the future that file should be in any export
[17:24] <asac> but thats a bug of launchpad
[17:24] <asac> Yannig: you can find the full tarball from https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[17:24] <Yannig> That's the question I was about to ask :)
[17:25] <asac> Yannig: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+language-packs
[17:25] <asac> get that ... there is the en-US.xpi for firefox included
[17:25] <asac> then you can use that to process your .po
[17:25] <asac> (actually the latest delta should have your oc.po also in it
[17:25] <asac> Yannig: so maybe change the wiki instructions to always start with the ubuntu tarball
[17:26] <Yannig> OK
[17:26] <asac> then if you change your translation in launchpad you can redownload just your .po and overwrite the one you have in  that tarball
[17:26] <Yannig> Let me succeed in creating the langpack and I'll do it :)
[17:26] <asac> Yannig: yay ;)
[17:26] <asac> Yannig: you are close :) ... i am sure
[17:26] <Yannig> Never closer :p
[17:27] <asac> fta: try binary search: move half of the extensions somewhere else => see difference? you figure ,)
[17:41] <fta> asac, if i touch an empty chrome.manifest in the flock theme, flock no longer starts
[17:44] <fta> lol
[17:44] <fta> nm
[17:47] <fta> asac, found it, it's {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}, aka ff3 theme
[17:47] <asac> yeah
[17:48] <asac> fta: so empty chrome.manifest missing there?
[17:48] <fta> yes
[17:48] <asac> ok cool ;)
[17:48] <asac> at least there is a line for this error message then :)
[17:49] <asac> fta: ok, what i wanted to talk about in the morning was the extension synching
[17:50] <fta> i need to leave now, could it wait ?
[17:50] <asac> fta: sure, no problem. be back today?
[17:51] <fta> yes
[17:51] <asac> ok cu later then
[17:52] <asac> anyone can connect to http://db.debian.org or http://nm.debian.org ?
[17:55] <james_w> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/06/msg00374.html
[17:55] <james_w> that's probably the reason
[17:58] <asac> james_w: thanks. no reaons though :)
[17:58] <asac> but at least i know its not just me
[18:10] <rzr> any of you are using seamonkey as main browser ?
[18:19] <asac> rzr: not me :)
[18:19] <asac> rzr: why?
[18:19] <rzr> it seems that mozscripts doest take care of it , does it ?
[18:20] <asac> rzr: for extensions?
[18:20] <asac> or tarball wise?
[18:20] <asac> i guess you mean mozilla-devscripts
[18:21] <rzr> yes the cdbs make files
[18:22] <asac> yeah ... seamonkey is a dinosaur ... packaging extensions is not as straight forward as with ffox and co
[18:23] <asac> they dont have the toolkit extension manager
[18:23] <asac> so you basically have to install extensions as "chrome"
[18:23] <asac> which is cumbersome
[18:27] <rzr> asac: all mozilla products are dinosaurs
[18:31] <rzr> asac: http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.einhorn-net.de/netscape/about_francais.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.einhorn-net.de/netscape/index.html&h=100&w=150&sz=6&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=6ljaK-ELFevFkM:&tbnh=64&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmozilla%2Babout:francais%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
[18:31] <rzr> look how lazy is the french one :)
[18:32] <rzr> i am gone
[18:32] <rzr> later
[23:45] <fta> asac, still there ?