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LzrHey Brokunn, you sounded like me yesterday with that problem!00:29
LzrBrokunn: Are you using the Xubuntu alternate version?00:29
BrokunnAye00:29
BrokunnI couldnt get the standard one to load properly since I dont have enough RAM, so I'm using the alt  ;)00:29
LzrMine kept freezing at the same percentage each time, although I did get farther in the install by disabling ACPI in the install options. I grabbed Xubuntu 6.06 LTS instead and upgraded to 8.04 last night00:30
BrokunnOh, is 6.06 LTS an older version?00:30
BrokunnAnd where are the install options?  ;)00:30
cody-somerville8.04 > 6.0600:31
LzrMy laptop has 224MB RAM and I still couldn't get the alternate version to work, which claims to install on machines with 64MB RAM.00:31
LzrYeah, 6.06 is an older version that lets you upgrade directly to 8.04. You can grab it off the Xubuntu site, then follow the directions on there on how to upgrade00:31
BrokunnMy install is specifically hanging up at the "Select and Install Software" step...  usually at 6%00:31
LzrSame here!00:32
LzrI couldn't find any solutions, but upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04 is better than having nothing installed00:33
LzrSorry, 6.0400:33
LzrHaha, 6.06.00:33
LzrAll these version numbers are making my head spin00:33
BrokunnHeh, well thanks for the tip!  I'm going to go get the install right now and give it a try.  Is the 6.04 version an alternate, or just the regular install?00:34
LzrYou can get either, I grabbed the alternate just in case00:35
Lzrhttp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/00:35
LzrThe US mirrors, for example00:35
LzrAnd no problem, I spent the past 2 days trying to figure out how to get a non-freezing install.00:36
BrokunnRgr that.  Thanks Lzr  =)00:36
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tcabeensuper basic question if anyone has time.01:11
R0b0t1Just wondering, is it pronounced x-ubuntu or zoobuntu.01:21
R0b0t1like xylophone01:21
pottythepisser!ops02:55
ubottuHelp! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso,  PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak02:55
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hoochum.. my wife's xubuntu just lost the taskbars/panels09:26
hoochi'd know what to look for in gnome, but xfce i'm lost :)09:26
hoochany pointers?09:26
TheSheepalt+f2, type xfce4-panel09:27
hoochcheers09:47
zoredacheIt almost seems like there needs to be a something in xfce that automagically respawns xfce4-panel when it dies...09:53
Valsummy panel died often in Gutsy, but doesn't in Hardy10:04
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veccioraMy Ubuntu always run in 1280x960 when my monitor 1280x1240.10:56
veccioraUbuntu, Kubuntu and all were same.10:56
veccioraThe desktop looks tall.10:57
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lavishhi all11:50
lavishCan you reccomend an app to search for files on xfce? There are catfish and gnome-utils (which includes "gnome-search-tool"), but I don't know which one is better or if there's something else available. Thanks :)11:52
lavish*recommend11:53
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JannoTThello14:31
JannoTTsomebody here? :D14:31
vinnlYep14:31
vinnl:)14:31
* Myrtti hides14:32
vinnlJannoTT, Myrtti isn't here :P14:32
JannoTTHow to disable pc speaker. Xubuntu peeps when i start the system(login screen). When i close the system(little before splashscreen).14:32
vinnlJannoTT, you mean the beep?14:33
vinnlJannoTT, http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&btnI=Im+Feeling+Lucky&q=disable+system+beep+xubuntu14:33
JannoTTbeep yes14:33
vinnlThen see that google search, I think there are some good solutions there :)14:33
JannoTTBlacklisted pc speaker. But this solution feels kinda strange. Why aren't there just a checkbox some where what would make xubuntu not use pc speaker.14:37
vinnlI guess it's because the speaker isn't there for nothing...?14:38
vinnl...and because there are many more urgent issues :)14:38
JannoTTWhat is pcm under volume control? :D14:39
vinnlEh? xD14:40
JannoTTopen volume control14:40
vinnlEhm, where do I find that? :P14:40
vinnlAh, you mean the panel plugin?14:41
JannoTTthat should work too14:41
vinnlAh, I see, xfce4-mixer14:41
vinnlOK, it's open14:41
JannoTTwich on controls your sound volume?14:42
vinnlHeadphone14:43
JannoTToh. :D14:43
JannoTTanyways bye.14:43
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jokoonhello back Odd-rationale15:22
jokoonI tried as you told me yesterday15:22
jokoonand On the login prompt in graphical mode15:23
jokoonI did ctrl alt F215:23
jokoonstill black screen15:23
jokoonand the failsafe mode worked15:23
vinnljokoon, completely black?15:23
jokoonyes15:23
jokoonno text15:23
vinnlOdd...15:24
jokoonvinnl15:25
jokoonyay basically the problem is that when I start a xfce session15:25
jokoonthere is the default bright blue background15:26
jokoonwith a mouse pointer15:26
jokoonand nothing else happens, I can move the pointer15:26
jokoonI waited long15:26
jokoonbasically I have a ubuntu installed15:26
jokoonon a apple ibook G415:27
vinnljokoon, have you tried pressing Alt+F2 then running "xfce4-panel"?15:27
jokoonso its a powerpc15:27
TheSheepjokoon: can you swithc to console with alt+ctrl+f1, log in and run 'top' to see what processes are running?15:27
jokoonno I cant switch to a console15:27
jokoonoh15:27
jokoonYes I'll try alt Fé15:27
jokoonf2 and xfce panel15:28
jokoonbut I installed xubuntu-desktop15:28
jokoonshould it be installed already ?15:28
vinnljokoon, yes, but perhaps it isn't started15:28
jokoonshouldn't it start automatically ?15:29
vinnljokoon, it's supposed to, yes :)15:29
vinnljokoon, but you wouldn't be the first where it doesn't happen :)15:29
jokoonwhy so ?15:29
vinnljokoon, I don't know exactly, I believe it was a problem on the livecd for people who didn't have enough memory15:30
jokoonok15:30
jokoonthe xubuntu livecd ?15:30
vinnljokoon, yeah15:30
jokoonxfce is supposed to be lightweight15:30
jokoonI have 1gb ram15:31
TheSheep1GB is more than enough15:31
vinnlYeah that isn't the problem, that's way more than enough :)15:31
jokoonyes15:31
jokoonany way I curse power pc on linux15:32
jokoonso slow sometimes15:32
jokoonwhen I open a dir it charges so much cpu15:32
jokoonwell thanks I'll try that15:32
JannoTTDang. i like xubuntu. So simple and fast.15:39
vinnl^.^15:40
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peter77how do I set a critical power percentage in xfce?15:46
peter77I know in gnome its done in gconf15:46
peter77anyone?15:47
vinnlSorry15:47
TheSheepwith gnome-power-preferences, if you have gnome-power-manager installed15:47
peter77TheSheep: gnome-power-manager is installed by default15:55
peter77but that does not let me set the percentage15:56
TheSheeppeter77: it's the same program as in gnome, so it uses teh same settings16:00
peter77TheSheep, k I'll just install gconf-editor then :-)16:04
Lzr!seen16:05
ubottuThe seen function has not been operational for a long time.  Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead.16:05
JannoTTrofl no nick/channel named seenserv16:19
Valsum:o16:21
Lzrhehe JannoTT16:36
JannoTTwhat16:37
JannoTTstart answering Lzr :D16:39
Lzroh I just read the <JannoTT> rofl no nick/channel named seenserv16:41
JannoTToh. Happens :D16:41
JannoTT!seenserv16:42
JannoTT!seen16:42
ubottuThe seen function has not been operational for a long time.  Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead.16:42
LzrAre you handy in Xunbuntu, sir? I'm trying to solve a problem16:42
JannoTTMe? No. :D Installed it yesterday first time. :P16:43
Lzrsame here!16:43
LzrI've got everything working, even my wireless card, except my CD drive16:43
JannoTTcd drive doesn't work? :/16:44
JannoTTsome exotic cd drive?16:45
LzrIt "works", but I am getting an error whenever I insert a disc, even though I can still browse it16:45
LzrI don't remember getting the error yesterday either16:45
LzrJust some drive from a HP notebook16:45
JannoTTwhat the error?16:45
JannoTTwhat's*16:46
LzrTook a screenshot, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=74031&d=121345736816:46
JannoTTDon't have account. Dang gotta register. :D16:47
LzrGah, sorry, didn't know. Well, the bright side is you'll probably need to post there in the future, lol16:48
JannoTTmaybe, maybe not :D16:49
JannoTTgot acc.16:50
JannoTTcan you show your fstab?16:52
JannoTT!pastebin16:52
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)16:52
LzrSure, one sec man16:53
LzrWhat's the easiest way to copy/paste the fstab contents?16:57
JannoTTuse some random text editor16:58
JannoTTmousepad maybe... very fast16:59
Lzrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/2016817:02
LzrAh, sweet service17:02
JannoTThow can you live without floppy device? :D17:03
LzrI haven't used a floppy in years17:04
JannoTTcomp restart. one sec.17:04
LzrBetween flashdrives and CDs, my floppy drive can RIP17:04
JannoTT:/17:13
JannoTTi can use your line with no errors17:17
ieuanI'm running xubuntu, and wondering how I can set a timer on gnome-screenshot like I can with ubuntu17:58
ieuananyone able to help??17:59
cody-somervilleHo18:00
cody-somervilleerm...18:00
JannoTTdownload gnome-utils from synaptic. Inside there is gnome-screenshot.18:05
TheSheepJannoTT: he's gone, attention span of a mayfly18:05
JannoTToh18:05
JannoTTdang :D18:05
anushahow to use webcam in pidgin18:23
JannoTTomg. can't open fake drive made by wine.18:24
cody-somervillelol18:25
cody-somervilleanusha, you can not18:25
cody-somervilleanusha, You'll have to use a different client18:25
JannoTTThe URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported. Thats soo cool18:26
anushahow to use a different client18:28
JannoTTRofl. Renaiming self extracting zip from exe to zip makes it easly unpackable. Thats so sweet. No need for wine.18:30
anushahow to use a different client in using webcam.what do u mean by that .can u explain me in brief.18:30
TheSheepanusha: you can use ekiga, for example18:31
TheSheepyou have to install it though18:32
djouallah_how to change proxy setting in xubuntu,19:40
neonkevohello, linux n00b here. was hoping maybe someone can give me a hand with my xubuntu install and my nic19:55
shane_hello can i install nimbus in xubuntu19:56
TheSheepwhat's nimbus?19:56
shane_a theme19:56
TheSheepwhat kind of theme?19:57
neonkevoshane: i installed it yesterday, it works19:57
neonkevosearch around for the debian packages19:57
neonkevothe only problem with it is that it does not replace the xfce mouse icon on the task pane19:57
shane_but it gets the sweet graphics look19:58
neonkevoat least, it didn't replace it for me19:58
shane_how is it spelled i tryed searching it the way i spelled and its wrong19:58
TheSheepneonkevo: you can replace that icon manually19:58
shane_TheSheep: search it its an awsome looking desktop theme19:59
TheSheephttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus+(Ubuntu+and+Debian)?content=5475519:59
TheSheepthis one?19:59
neonkevoTheSheep: i haven't messed with it that much but i think i did see the icon somewhere19:59
neonkevoyes, thats the theme19:59
* TheSheep isn ot impressed20:00
neonkevoIMO, the theme isnt that great. it just looks a bit cleaner20:00
TheSheepxubuntu's default, Murrina Storm, is pretty clean20:01
TheSheepI like jmak's themes though20:01
neonkevocolors were a little too dreary for me. i found something a little brighter20:01
shane_http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus+theme?content=79571&PHPSESSID=932b02920:01
shane_theres the the link20:01
TheSheepnot jimc, jimmac's :)20:02
neonkevogive it a shot shane, you might like it20:02
* TheSheep is using murrina gilouche duo now20:02
neonkevoanyone around that can help me with a nic issue?20:03
neonkevoI'll have to try that theme TheSheep. looks like it would look good with the default tango theme20:03
shane_the only thing i got for  jimmac is a mouse20:04
TheSheepneonkevo: it looks good with the old tangerine20:04
neonkevoI'll check it out as soon as i can jump on the net with this xubuntu box20:04
neonkevocan't get my nic to work with xubuntu20:05
neonkevoits an old smc nic20:06
SuPeRhOmEmsomeone knows if for a pc with k6-II 500mhz processor, the 386 compiled kernel runs better?20:06
RiottaSuPeRhOmEm: yes20:10
Riottaif you will compile yourself it will run a lot better than default one20:10
Riottaon that spec20:11
SuPeRhOmEmRiotta, I was thinking about install the "linux-386" metapackage, I'm not good with kernel compilations20:11
SuPeRhOmEmbut if the 386 is better than the generic version, i'm on it :)20:12
Riottayou are talking about older version of *ubuntu ? than 8.0420:12
Riottacause in 8.04 there isn't such thing20:13
SuPeRhOmEmoh really? i'm using gutsy, upgraded from feisty20:14
Riottalike 386 compiled kernel20:14
Riottain gutsy should be20:14
Riottabut hardy haven't got20:14
SuPeRhOmEmoh my...20:15
SuPeRhOmEmcan't believe it20:15
Riottacompiling kernel isn't so hard20:15
Riottaand you have it optimised good for your machine20:16
SuPeRhOmEmwell... but the drivers are a bit hard to compile20:16
SuPeRhOmEmmy computer is really old.. all onboard with a pc-chips motherboard20:16
SuPeRhOmEmit was a miracle to set xubuntu running on it20:17
Riottahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile20:17
Riottahow much ram it got ?20:17
SuPeRhOmEm512mb20:17
Riottawell it's more than minimum for xubuntu20:17
Riotta:D20:18
Riottawhich target is 192mb20:18
SuPeRhOmEmbut the cpu load is almost all the time 100%20:18
RiottaI think it's kernel fault If you would compile it you can pick from configuration list exact processor type20:19
RiottaAMD K6 220:19
SuPeRhOmEmyep!20:19
SuPeRhOmEmI heard about a program that helps you to compile a new kernel, omni- something, do u know that?20:20
RiottaI would encourage you to compile kernel by yourself and disable drivers which you don't need20:20
Riottacause default ubuntu kernel has many modules compiled to be VERY compatible20:20
Riotta:P20:20
Riottadidn't heard about it20:20
SuPeRhOmEmwell, i'll try to recompile it.. i really need a performance improvement :)20:22
Riottaalso I can recommend you disabling unwanted/uneeded daemons20:22
Riottain /etc/init.d you have plenty of files which executable right20:23
Riottaif you will took that right that daemon whouldn't be loaded at next boot20:23
Riottait will save you some memory/cpu cycles20:23
SuPeRhOmEmI have already did it, but it wasn't enough20:24
Riottakk20:24
SuPeRhOmEmdo u think it's better to upgrade to hardy before compiling a new kernel?20:24
Riottawell it depends on you20:25
jokoonOdd-rationale TheSheep I still have a problem with xfce : it doesnt start, I tried alt f2, doesn't display anything, no terminal either...20:25
jokoonplease help20:25
Riottanewer distribution = newer versions of packages. fixes, new features20:25
jokoonmy power can't stand gnome20:25
jokoonI really need xfce20:25
Riottajokoon: did you installed xubuntu by apt-get or you install it from scratch from cd?20:26
jokoonfrom apt-get20:26
Riottadid you installed xfc or xubuntu-desktop metapackage ?20:27
jokoonthe xubuntu metapackage20:27
Riottaok20:27
RiottaI would recommend you uninstall ubuntu base and install xubuntu-desktop again (if you don't need gnome)20:28
RiottaI will give you a command :D20:28
Riottafor cleaning this mess20:28
Riottaprobably somepackage corupted or something20:29
jokoonwill it keep my gnome settings ?20:29
shane_nimbus doesnt feature the full efects in xubuntu?20:30
Riottayes20:30
Riottasettings will be fine20:30
shane_its diff then the site previews20:30
Riottajokoon: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19643/20:31
Riottait's one big command20:31
Riottajokoon: but wait20:32
Riottayour can also20:32
Riottatry to see if you have set correct shortcut keys20:32
jokoonyes ?20:32
jokoonhum20:32
RiottaApplications -> Settings -> keyboard20:32
jokoonwhy ?20:32
Riottathen shortcuts20:33
jokoonwhen I do alt f2 ?20:33
Riottaand check20:33
Riottaif you have alt+f2 set correctly20:33
jokoonor when I do ctrl alt F2 to hae a term ?20:33
jokoonmy problem is that when I start a xfce session, I have a bright blue background20:33
jokoonwith the cursor20:33
jokoonbut nothing else20:33
Riottaah20:34
Riottaso I woud recommend you the first step20:34
jokoonnothing lighter ?20:34
Riottahttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19643/20:34
Riottaprobably some package20:34
jokoonyesyes I have it20:34
Riottahave been coruppted while you were downloading it20:34
Riottaand this is the cause20:34
Riottadon't be afraid on your settings20:35
Riottaall your settings are stored in your home dir20:35
Riottaand it will be not touched20:35
jokooncorrupted ? why isn't there some hash setting with apt get20:35
jokoonhash check20:35
jokoonI mean20:35
jokoonit is going some long wait20:36
Riottawell it could be a memory fault20:36
Riottait happens20:36
jokoonI also experience a lot crashes with firefox20:36
jokoonb5 or rc20:36
jokoonwhen I have gmail open20:36
Riottai remember one guy yesterday that had similar problem to you20:36
jokoonwhen I close the gmail tab20:36
Riottawith xfce20:37
jokoonand did he find a solution ?20:37
Riottaand he just didn't installed it cleanly somehow20:37
jokoonok20:37
Riottaso when he installed it properly it worked20:37
jokoonbut I'm removing all gnome package ?20:38
Riottayeah all except those not used by xfce20:39
Riottaand without settings ofc20:39
jokoonso xfce will work20:39
jokoonif not I won't have gnome : (20:39
jokoonbut only only xfce20:39
Riottayeah20:39
jokoonand the yesterday guy had a powerpc ?20:39
Riottait uses few gnome programs tho20:39
Riottanope x8620:40
jokoon...20:40
jokoonbut all binaries are different20:40
Riottayeah20:40
jokoonmaybe its a ppc specific problem20:40
Riottait can be ppc specific problem but I don;t think so20:40
jokoonThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:20:55
jokoondo I remove them ?20:55
jokoonRiotta ?20:55
jokoonDo i just start a xfce session ?20:56
jokoonRiotta : (20:59
zoredachejokoon: sudo apt-get autoremove20:59
Riottayes ?20:59
Riottasorry I was playing a game :d20:59
Riottaautoremove and autoclean20:59
jokoonand then ?20:59
jokoonjust logout and start a xfce session21:00
jokoon?21:00
shane_#ubuntu-offtopic21:02
jokoongreat21:02
RandyboYWhat program can encode and burn avi to svcd?21:15
shane_hey can i get konversation to stay in panel when i close it like i had in kubuntu21:15
shane_why is it when i right click on a aplication it starts and doesnt give me options21:25
shane_http://paste.ubuntu.com/20212/21:39
jokoonthanks it works21:39
jokoonlove to youuuu21:39
shane_can someone take a look at this and tell me why my right click doesnt open options it just opens the app21:39
jokoonwhats is the shortcut command to put to start a terminal windows ?21:40
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TheSheepjokoon: xfce4-terminal21:41
jokoonty21:42
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TheSheepshane_: looks good, where are you clicking exactly?21:42
Riottajokoon: it worked ?21:42
jokoonand can I set the positions of minimize, maximize etc buttons ?21:43
jokoonRiotta : yes, thanks21:43
jokoondefinilely faster and easier to use21:43
Riottacool, I'm glad21:43
jokoonmore compact21:43
Riottayeah21:44
Riottait have got all what you need21:44
Riottanothing less nothing more21:44
djouallahwhere to configure gdm, i like to autologin21:44
shane_TheSheep: in aplications im trying to get konversation to go in pannel so when i close it it will stay open21:44
TheSheepshane_: I don't knwo about kde apps, but it should be somewhere in the program's settings21:45
jokoonRiotta Is there a setting somewhere so I can choose the position of button on the drag bar ?ike the menu button, minimize, close, maximize buttons ?21:46
Riottadjouallah: sudo gdmsetup21:46
shane_TheSheep: ok is there a better irc that will go best with xfce21:46
Riottajokoon: I don't think so21:46
djouallahRiotta, thanks21:46
jokoon: (21:46
Riottayou mean the title bar ?21:47
djouallahbtw, i was expecting it to be in the menu21:47
Riottathemes ?21:47
TheSheepshane_: xchat or pidgin, I think, but I like irssi best21:47
Riottaor you mean...21:47
TheSheepshane_: but irssi is a text-mode application21:47
Riottajokoon: what exactly you wanna to achive ?:)21:47
shane_TheSheep: ok also is there a msn chat nockoff in xfce21:47
TheSheepdjouallah: it is, in settings->login window21:47
TheSheepshane_: pidgin should handle msn21:48
djouallahTheSheep, me silly21:48
shane_TheSheep: yah i dont like pidgin at all i have kmess now21:48
TheSheepshane_: you could search in synaptic for msn21:48
jokoonRiotta in gnome you can can set the buttons positions with some string in gconf-editor metacity stuff, you just change to close,minimize;maximize,menu21:49
TheSheepshane_: I'm sure you will find several ones21:49
shane_TheSheep: ok21:49
jokoonfor example I want the close button at the left, not at the right, mac os "style"21:49
TheSheepjokoon: you can set it in wm settings, just drag the buttons21:50
Riottaah I don't think so you can change theme of the window borders only21:50
jokoonTheSheep not these buttons the one at each top of the window, the drag bar22:01
TheSheepjokoon: go to settings, setting manager, window manager22:02
TheSheepjokoon: on the right you can see two frames with buttons22:02
TheSheepjokoon: drag them around22:02
jokoonoh yes22:03
jokoonI thought that was menu buttons like generic save etc22:03
TheSheepthe icons are not very intuitive22:04
TheSheepI guess they should take them from the theme22:04
slow-motionhi22:07
JannoTTGood night everyone. Time to get some sleep. :)22:10
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Volkodavanybody installed opera 9.5 yet?22:22
VolkodavI have 9.5 beta 2 and 9.5 will not install saying there is later version installed ?22:23
shane_in xubuntu what is best to use synaptic or add/remove i want to keep things in the xfce as much as posible will one find the best for xubuntu better than the other22:24
slow-motionn822:27
shane_#xubuntu-offtopic22:32
shane_hey where do i find my cd/dvd in xubuntu lol i cant find it23:42
shane_im steppin away for a min but if someone could tell me where id be thankfull23:43

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