[00:29] Hey Brokunn, you sounded like me yesterday with that problem! [00:29] Brokunn: Are you using the Xubuntu alternate version? [00:29] Aye [00:29] I couldnt get the standard one to load properly since I dont have enough RAM, so I'm using the alt ;) [00:30] Mine kept freezing at the same percentage each time, although I did get farther in the install by disabling ACPI in the install options. I grabbed Xubuntu 6.06 LTS instead and upgraded to 8.04 last night [00:30] Oh, is 6.06 LTS an older version? [00:30] And where are the install options? ;) [00:31] 8.04 > 6.06 [00:31] My laptop has 224MB RAM and I still couldn't get the alternate version to work, which claims to install on machines with 64MB RAM. [00:31] Yeah, 6.06 is an older version that lets you upgrade directly to 8.04. You can grab it off the Xubuntu site, then follow the directions on there on how to upgrade [00:31] My install is specifically hanging up at the "Select and Install Software" step... usually at 6% [00:32] Same here! [00:33] I couldn't find any solutions, but upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04 is better than having nothing installed [00:33] Sorry, 6.04 [00:33] Haha, 6.06. [00:33] All these version numbers are making my head spin [00:34] Heh, well thanks for the tip! I'm going to go get the install right now and give it a try. Is the 6.04 version an alternate, or just the regular install? [00:35] You can get either, I grabbed the alternate just in case [00:35] http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/ [00:35] The US mirrors, for example [00:36] And no problem, I spent the past 2 days trying to figure out how to get a non-freezing install. [00:36] Rgr that. Thanks Lzr =) === Terry__ is now known as tcaben === tcaben is now known as tcabeen [01:11] super basic question if anyone has time. [01:21] Just wondering, is it pronounced x-ubuntu or zoobuntu. [01:21] like xylophone [02:55] !ops [02:55] Help! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [09:26] um.. my wife's xubuntu just lost the taskbars/panels [09:26] i'd know what to look for in gnome, but xfce i'm lost :) [09:26] any pointers? [09:27] alt+f2, type xfce4-panel [09:47] cheers [09:53] It almost seems like there needs to be a something in xfce that automagically respawns xfce4-panel when it dies... [10:04] my panel died often in Gutsy, but doesn't in Hardy === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [10:56] My Ubuntu always run in 1280x960 when my monitor 1280x1240. [10:56] Ubuntu, Kubuntu and all were same. [10:57] The desktop looks tall. === Mez|DPC is now known as mez [11:50] hi all [11:52] Can you reccomend an app to search for files on xfce? There are catfish and gnome-utils (which includes "gnome-search-tool"), but I don't know which one is better or if there's something else available. Thanks :) [11:53] *recommend === mez is now known as Mez|DPC === leche_ is now known as leche === Mez|DPC is now known as mez === mez is now known as Mez|DPC === tuna-fish is now known as tuna === hfsdo__ is now known as hfsdo === Mez|DPC is now known as mez === mez is now known as Mez|DPC [14:31] hello [14:31] somebody here? :D [14:31] Yep [14:31] :) [14:32] * Myrtti hides [14:32] JannoTT, Myrtti isn't here :P [14:32] How to disable pc speaker. Xubuntu peeps when i start the system(login screen). When i close the system(little before splashscreen). [14:33] JannoTT, you mean the beep? [14:33] JannoTT, http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&btnI=Im+Feeling+Lucky&q=disable+system+beep+xubuntu [14:33] beep yes [14:33] Then see that google search, I think there are some good solutions there :) [14:37] Blacklisted pc speaker. But this solution feels kinda strange. Why aren't there just a checkbox some where what would make xubuntu not use pc speaker. [14:38] I guess it's because the speaker isn't there for nothing...? [14:38] ...and because there are many more urgent issues :) [14:39] What is pcm under volume control? :D [14:40] Eh? xD [14:40] open volume control [14:40] Ehm, where do I find that? :P [14:41] Ah, you mean the panel plugin? [14:41] that should work too [14:41] Ah, I see, xfce4-mixer [14:41] OK, it's open [14:42] wich on controls your sound volume? [14:43] Headphone [14:43] oh. :D [14:43] anyways bye. === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [15:22] hello back Odd-rationale [15:22] I tried as you told me yesterday [15:23] and On the login prompt in graphical mode [15:23] I did ctrl alt F2 [15:23] still black screen [15:23] and the failsafe mode worked [15:23] jokoon, completely black? [15:23] yes [15:23] no text [15:24] Odd... [15:25] vinnl [15:25] yay basically the problem is that when I start a xfce session [15:26] there is the default bright blue background [15:26] with a mouse pointer [15:26] and nothing else happens, I can move the pointer [15:26] I waited long [15:26] basically I have a ubuntu installed [15:27] on a apple ibook G4 [15:27] jokoon, have you tried pressing Alt+F2 then running "xfce4-panel"? [15:27] so its a powerpc [15:27] jokoon: can you swithc to console with alt+ctrl+f1, log in and run 'top' to see what processes are running? [15:27] no I cant switch to a console [15:27] oh [15:27] Yes I'll try alt Fé [15:28] f2 and xfce panel [15:28] but I installed xubuntu-desktop [15:28] should it be installed already ? [15:28] jokoon, yes, but perhaps it isn't started [15:29] shouldn't it start automatically ? [15:29] jokoon, it's supposed to, yes :) [15:29] jokoon, but you wouldn't be the first where it doesn't happen :) [15:29] why so ? [15:30] jokoon, I don't know exactly, I believe it was a problem on the livecd for people who didn't have enough memory [15:30] ok [15:30] the xubuntu livecd ? [15:30] jokoon, yeah [15:30] xfce is supposed to be lightweight [15:31] I have 1gb ram [15:31] 1GB is more than enough [15:31] Yeah that isn't the problem, that's way more than enough :) [15:31] yes [15:32] any way I curse power pc on linux [15:32] so slow sometimes [15:32] when I open a dir it charges so much cpu [15:32] well thanks I'll try that [15:39] Dang. i like xubuntu. So simple and fast. [15:40] ^.^ === MrNaz` is now known as MrNaz [15:46] how do I set a critical power percentage in xfce? [15:46] I know in gnome its done in gconf [15:47] anyone? [15:47] Sorry [15:47] with gnome-power-preferences, if you have gnome-power-manager installed [15:55] TheSheep: gnome-power-manager is installed by default [15:56] but that does not let me set the percentage [16:00] peter77: it's the same program as in gnome, so it uses teh same settings [16:04] TheSheep, k I'll just install gconf-editor then :-) [16:05] !seen [16:05] The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead. [16:19] rofl no nick/channel named seenserv [16:21] :o [16:36] hehe JannoTT [16:37] what [16:39] start answering Lzr :D [16:41] oh I just read the rofl no nick/channel named seenserv [16:41] oh. Happens :D [16:42] !seenserv [16:42] !seen [16:42] The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead. [16:42] Are you handy in Xunbuntu, sir? I'm trying to solve a problem [16:43] Me? No. :D Installed it yesterday first time. :P [16:43] same here! [16:43] I've got everything working, even my wireless card, except my CD drive [16:44] cd drive doesn't work? :/ [16:45] some exotic cd drive? [16:45] It "works", but I am getting an error whenever I insert a disc, even though I can still browse it [16:45] I don't remember getting the error yesterday either [16:45] Just some drive from a HP notebook [16:45] what the error? [16:46] what's* [16:46] Took a screenshot, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=74031&d=1213457368 [16:47] Don't have account. Dang gotta register. :D [16:48] Gah, sorry, didn't know. Well, the bright side is you'll probably need to post there in the future, lol [16:49] maybe, maybe not :D [16:50] got acc. [16:52] can you show your fstab? [16:52] !pastebin [16:52] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:53] Sure, one sec man [16:57] What's the easiest way to copy/paste the fstab contents? [16:58] use some random text editor [16:59] mousepad maybe... very fast [17:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/20168 [17:02] Ah, sweet service [17:03] how can you live without floppy device? :D [17:04] I haven't used a floppy in years [17:04] comp restart. one sec. [17:04] Between flashdrives and CDs, my floppy drive can RIP [17:13] :/ [17:17] i can use your line with no errors [17:58] I'm running xubuntu, and wondering how I can set a timer on gnome-screenshot like I can with ubuntu [17:59] anyone able to help?? [18:00] Ho [18:00] erm... [18:05] download gnome-utils from synaptic. Inside there is gnome-screenshot. [18:05] JannoTT: he's gone, attention span of a mayfly [18:05] oh [18:05] dang :D [18:23] how to use webcam in pidgin [18:24] omg. can't open fake drive made by wine. [18:25] lol [18:25] anusha, you can not [18:25] anusha, You'll have to use a different client [18:26] The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported. Thats soo cool [18:28] how to use a different client [18:30] Rofl. Renaiming self extracting zip from exe to zip makes it easly unpackable. Thats so sweet. No need for wine. [18:30] how to use a different client in using webcam.what do u mean by that .can u explain me in brief. [18:31] anusha: you can use ekiga, for example [18:32] you have to install it though [19:40] how to change proxy setting in xubuntu, [19:55] hello, linux n00b here. was hoping maybe someone can give me a hand with my xubuntu install and my nic [19:56] hello can i install nimbus in xubuntu [19:56] what's nimbus? [19:56] a theme [19:57] what kind of theme? [19:57] shane: i installed it yesterday, it works [19:57] search around for the debian packages [19:57] the only problem with it is that it does not replace the xfce mouse icon on the task pane [19:58] but it gets the sweet graphics look [19:58] at least, it didn't replace it for me [19:58] how is it spelled i tryed searching it the way i spelled and its wrong [19:58] neonkevo: you can replace that icon manually [19:59] TheSheep: search it its an awsome looking desktop theme [19:59] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus+(Ubuntu+and+Debian)?content=54755 [19:59] this one? [19:59] TheSheep: i haven't messed with it that much but i think i did see the icon somewhere [19:59] yes, thats the theme [20:00] * TheSheep isn ot impressed [20:00] IMO, the theme isnt that great. it just looks a bit cleaner [20:01] xubuntu's default, Murrina Storm, is pretty clean [20:01] I like jmak's themes though [20:01] colors were a little too dreary for me. i found something a little brighter [20:01] http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus+theme?content=79571&PHPSESSID=932b029 [20:01] theres the the link [20:02] not jimc, jimmac's :) [20:02] give it a shot shane, you might like it [20:02] * TheSheep is using murrina gilouche duo now [20:03] anyone around that can help me with a nic issue? [20:03] I'll have to try that theme TheSheep. looks like it would look good with the default tango theme [20:04] the only thing i got for jimmac is a mouse [20:04] neonkevo: it looks good with the old tangerine [20:04] I'll check it out as soon as i can jump on the net with this xubuntu box [20:05] can't get my nic to work with xubuntu [20:06] its an old smc nic [20:06] someone knows if for a pc with k6-II 500mhz processor, the 386 compiled kernel runs better? [20:10] SuPeRhOmEm: yes [20:10] if you will compile yourself it will run a lot better than default one [20:11] on that spec [20:11] Riotta, I was thinking about install the "linux-386" metapackage, I'm not good with kernel compilations [20:12] but if the 386 is better than the generic version, i'm on it :) [20:12] you are talking about older version of *ubuntu ? than 8.04 [20:13] cause in 8.04 there isn't such thing [20:14] oh really? i'm using gutsy, upgraded from feisty [20:14] like 386 compiled kernel [20:14] in gutsy should be [20:14] but hardy haven't got [20:15] oh my... [20:15] can't believe it [20:15] compiling kernel isn't so hard [20:16] and you have it optimised good for your machine [20:16] well... but the drivers are a bit hard to compile [20:16] my computer is really old.. all onboard with a pc-chips motherboard [20:17] it was a miracle to set xubuntu running on it [20:17] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile [20:17] how much ram it got ? [20:17] 512mb [20:17] well it's more than minimum for xubuntu [20:18] :D [20:18] which target is 192mb [20:18] but the cpu load is almost all the time 100% [20:19] I think it's kernel fault If you would compile it you can pick from configuration list exact processor type [20:19] AMD K6 2 [20:19] yep! [20:20] I heard about a program that helps you to compile a new kernel, omni- something, do u know that? [20:20] I would encourage you to compile kernel by yourself and disable drivers which you don't need [20:20] cause default ubuntu kernel has many modules compiled to be VERY compatible [20:20] :P [20:20] didn't heard about it [20:22] well, i'll try to recompile it.. i really need a performance improvement :) [20:22] also I can recommend you disabling unwanted/uneeded daemons [20:23] in /etc/init.d you have plenty of files which executable right [20:23] if you will took that right that daemon whouldn't be loaded at next boot [20:23] it will save you some memory/cpu cycles [20:24] I have already did it, but it wasn't enough [20:24] kk [20:24] do u think it's better to upgrade to hardy before compiling a new kernel? [20:25] well it depends on you [20:25] Odd-rationale TheSheep I still have a problem with xfce : it doesnt start, I tried alt f2, doesn't display anything, no terminal either... [20:25] please help [20:25] newer distribution = newer versions of packages. fixes, new features [20:25] my power can't stand gnome [20:25] I really need xfce [20:26] jokoon: did you installed xubuntu by apt-get or you install it from scratch from cd? [20:26] from apt-get [20:27] did you installed xfc or xubuntu-desktop metapackage ? [20:27] the xubuntu metapackage [20:27] ok [20:28] I would recommend you uninstall ubuntu base and install xubuntu-desktop again (if you don't need gnome) [20:28] I will give you a command :D [20:28] for cleaning this mess [20:29] probably somepackage corupted or something [20:29] will it keep my gnome settings ? [20:30] nimbus doesnt feature the full efects in xubuntu? [20:30] yes [20:30] settings will be fine [20:30] its diff then the site previews [20:31] jokoon: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19643/ [20:31] it's one big command [20:32] jokoon: but wait [20:32] your can also [20:32] try to see if you have set correct shortcut keys [20:32] yes ? [20:32] hum [20:32] Applications -> Settings -> keyboard [20:32] why ? [20:33] then shortcuts [20:33] when I do alt f2 ? [20:33] and check [20:33] if you have alt+f2 set correctly [20:33] or when I do ctrl alt F2 to hae a term ? [20:33] my problem is that when I start a xfce session, I have a bright blue background [20:33] with the cursor [20:33] but nothing else [20:34] ah [20:34] so I woud recommend you the first step [20:34] nothing lighter ? [20:34] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19643/ [20:34] probably some package [20:34] yesyes I have it [20:34] have been coruppted while you were downloading it [20:34] and this is the cause [20:35] don't be afraid on your settings [20:35] all your settings are stored in your home dir [20:35] and it will be not touched [20:35] corrupted ? why isn't there some hash setting with apt get [20:35] hash check [20:35] I mean [20:36] it is going some long wait [20:36] well it could be a memory fault [20:36] it happens [20:36] I also experience a lot crashes with firefox [20:36] b5 or rc [20:36] when I have gmail open [20:36] i remember one guy yesterday that had similar problem to you [20:36] when I close the gmail tab [20:37] with xfce [20:37] and did he find a solution ? [20:37] and he just didn't installed it cleanly somehow [20:37] ok [20:37] so when he installed it properly it worked [20:38] but I'm removing all gnome package ? [20:39] yeah all except those not used by xfce [20:39] and without settings ofc [20:39] so xfce will work [20:39] if not I won't have gnome : ( [20:39] but only only xfce [20:39] yeah [20:39] and the yesterday guy had a powerpc ? [20:39] it uses few gnome programs tho [20:40] nope x86 [20:40] ... [20:40] but all binaries are different [20:40] yeah [20:40] maybe its a ppc specific problem [20:40] it can be ppc specific problem but I don;t think so [20:55] The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: [20:55] do I remove them ? [20:55] Riotta ? [20:56] Do i just start a xfce session ? [20:59] Riotta : ( [20:59] jokoon: sudo apt-get autoremove [20:59] yes ? [20:59] sorry I was playing a game :d [20:59] autoremove and autoclean [20:59] and then ? [21:00] just logout and start a xfce session [21:00] ? [21:02] #ubuntu-offtopic [21:02] great [21:15] What program can encode and burn avi to svcd? [21:15] hey can i get konversation to stay in panel when i close it like i had in kubuntu [21:25] why is it when i right click on a aplication it starts and doesnt give me options [21:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/20212/ [21:39] thanks it works [21:39] love to youuuu [21:39] can someone take a look at this and tell me why my right click doesnt open options it just opens the app [21:40] whats is the shortcut command to put to start a terminal windows ? === Mez|DPC is now known as mez [21:41] jokoon: xfce4-terminal [21:42] ty === mez is now known as Mez [21:42] shane_: looks good, where are you clicking exactly? [21:42] jokoon: it worked ? [21:43] and can I set the positions of minimize, maximize etc buttons ? [21:43] Riotta : yes, thanks [21:43] definilely faster and easier to use [21:43] cool, I'm glad [21:43] more compact [21:44] yeah [21:44] it have got all what you need [21:44] nothing less nothing more [21:44] where to configure gdm, i like to autologin [21:44] TheSheep: in aplications im trying to get konversation to go in pannel so when i close it it will stay open [21:45] shane_: I don't knwo about kde apps, but it should be somewhere in the program's settings [21:46] Riotta Is there a setting somewhere so I can choose the position of button on the drag bar ?ike the menu button, minimize, close, maximize buttons ? [21:46] djouallah: sudo gdmsetup [21:46] TheSheep: ok is there a better irc that will go best with xfce [21:46] jokoon: I don't think so [21:46] Riotta, thanks [21:46] : ( [21:47] you mean the title bar ? [21:47] btw, i was expecting it to be in the menu [21:47] themes ? [21:47] shane_: xchat or pidgin, I think, but I like irssi best [21:47] or you mean... [21:47] shane_: but irssi is a text-mode application [21:47] jokoon: what exactly you wanna to achive ?:) [21:47] TheSheep: ok also is there a msn chat nockoff in xfce [21:47] djouallah: it is, in settings->login window [21:48] shane_: pidgin should handle msn [21:48] TheSheep, me silly [21:48] TheSheep: yah i dont like pidgin at all i have kmess now [21:48] shane_: you could search in synaptic for msn [21:49] Riotta in gnome you can can set the buttons positions with some string in gconf-editor metacity stuff, you just change to close,minimize;maximize,menu [21:49] shane_: I'm sure you will find several ones [21:49] TheSheep: ok [21:49] for example I want the close button at the left, not at the right, mac os "style" [21:50] jokoon: you can set it in wm settings, just drag the buttons [21:50] ah I don't think so you can change theme of the window borders only [22:01]