[01:12] <sistpoty> hi
[01:12] <sistpoty> I could need some help with triaging bug #230350...
[01:12] <sistpoty> anyone who'd like to help me?
[01:13] <sistpoty> (you'll need look at the edge page of lp, the stable version times out for me)
[01:15] <sistpoty> maybe I shoul add the words "easy karma"? *g*
[01:34] <sistpoty> ok, nevermind, been through the list now myself
[03:13] <hwilde> hello my resolution unexplainably downgraded to 800x600.  I get a warning when I login about low res mode.  I have reinstalled the nvidia drivers and they are enabled.  I have restored my xorg.conf.  http://pastebin.com/m4253e049
[03:14] <hwilde> I would like to report a bug with the last xserver update
[03:15] <hwilde> it was previously working fine at 1680x1050 for the entire time of 7.04, 7.10, 8.04
[03:19] <hwilde> brb
[04:26] <hwilde> hello my resolution unexplainably downgraded to 800x600.  I get a warning when I login about low res mode.  I have reinstalled the nvidia drivers and they are enabled.  I have restored my xorg.conf.  http://pastebin.com/m4253e049
[04:26] <hwilde> I would like to report a bug with the last xserver update
[04:27] <hwilde> it was previously working fine at 1680x1050 for the entire time of 7.04, 7.10, 8.04
[04:27] <crimsun> hwilde: 2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9.2 from hardy-security?
[04:27] <hwilde> crimsun, how to get that version number
[04:27] <crimsun> either check the changelog or dpkg -l
[04:28] <crimsun> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core|awk '/^ii/ {print $3}'
[04:29] <hwilde> lol
[04:29] <hwilde> yes the version number you listed is what I have
[04:29] <hwilde> this was working until yesterday
[04:29] <hwilde> is that what changed
[04:29] <crimsun> can you confirm that reverting to 2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9 resolves the symptom?
[04:30] <hwilde> !downgrade | crimsun
[04:30] <crimsun> (yes, I'm well aware.  I used to be core-dev.)  I'm asking for testing purposes.
[04:31] <hwilde> how can I revert?
[04:31] <crimsun> first we need to find which packages need to be reverted.
[04:32] <crimsun> dpkg -l|awk '/2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu9.2/ {print $2}'
[04:32] <hwilde> xserver-xorg-core
[04:32] <crimsun> ok, so you need: sudo apt-get -thardy --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core
[04:33] <hwilde> ok but it might take me awhile to get back to this 800x600 to confirm... cya on the other side
[04:33] <crimsun> ok.
[04:36] <hwilde> crimsun, that didn't take long
[04:36] <hwilde> now it says I am not using the nvidia x driver and to run nvidia-xconfig
[04:37] <hwilde> doing this has no effect
[04:37] <crimsun> did you reboot?
[04:37] <crimsun> or at least restart gdm?
[04:37] <hwilde> ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[04:37] <crimsun> well, that will zap (kill) the X server, but there's no telling whether it restarts properly
[04:38] <hwilde> since when do you have to reboot linux
[04:38] <crimsun> there are quite a few instances.  This may not be one, hence my recommendation that you at least restart gdm.
[04:38] <hwilde> yes I did this
[04:38] <hwilde> twice
[04:39] <crimsun> with the resulting symptom as reported?
[04:39] <hwilde> it is still in low res mode, and it says it not using nvidia driver
[04:39] <crimsun> can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[04:39] <hwilde> is there a command line pastebin package?
[04:39] <crimsun> yes
[04:40] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:40] <hwilde> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[04:40] <hwilde> that is probably a place to start :/
[04:40] <crimsun> need more from the log, but yes, that's one thing.
[04:44] <hwilde> http://pastebin.com/f9ddf71a
[04:45] <crimsun> sec
[04:46] <hwilde> (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GTS
[04:46] <hwilde> that is the correct video card line 163
[04:47] <crimsun> right, but you're using the vesa driver.
[04:48] <crimsun> I don't have a non-Free graphics card, so I don't know offhand if you need to rerun System> Administration> Hardware Drivers
[04:48] <hwilde> !nvidia | hwilde
[04:49] <crimsun> regardless, I don't think it has anything to do with the most recent xorg-server security update
[04:49] <crimsun> err, functionally, that is.
[04:49] <crimsun> package-wise, it may; there have been older reports of xorg.confs being clobbered, etc.
[04:50] <hwilde> I dunno it says nvidia-glx-new is already there
[04:50] <hwilde> but nvidia is not enabled
[04:50] <hwilde> nvidia-xconfig says it writes the xorg.conf but it has no effect
[04:51] <crimsun> please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:52] <hwilde> Bug #91292
[04:53] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf:  http://pastebin.com/f3735bc5b
[04:54] <crimsun> right, so you've been bitten by that bug
[04:55] <hwilde> but I didn't upgrade from edgy to feisty, or nvidia anything...
[04:56] <hwilde> lspci output:  http://pastebin.com/f46b73c6c
[04:57] <hwilde> also, I have the hsync and vsync specified in the xorg.conf
[05:00] <crimsun> is there a reason the server insists on using /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe?
[05:00] <hwilde> on startup there is an error about it cannot detect monitor and graphics card and it is failing back to low res mode
[05:00] <crimsun> meaning, what happens when that file does /not/ exist but /etc/X11/xorg.conf does?
[05:00] <hwilde> if I choose configure and specify everything correctly it doesn't help
[05:01] <hwilde> i've done the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg too
[05:07] <hwilde> crimsun, it seems to be generating .failsafe by itself
[05:07] <hwilde> is it possible for a graphics card to fry in such a way that it provides lower resolution only?
[05:08] <crimsun> not that I'm aware
[05:08] <hwilde> bc my monitor is popping up a warning that says for best results change resolution to 1680x1050
[05:08] <hwilde> and the monitor seems to be displaying fine
[05:09] <hwilde> 36 minutes until the livecd download finishes
[05:09] <hwilde> then I will either be buying a new video card or reinstalling
[05:09] <crimsun> I highly doubt your graphics card is fried.
[05:10] <hwilde> well I've built and troubleshot a lot of systems and i've never seen a config borked like this
[05:10] <crimsun> do you have a known-working copy of xorg.conf backed up somewhere?
[05:10] <hwilde> yes
[05:10] <hwilde> that is what I pastebinned
[05:10] <hwilde> that is what I am using
[05:10] <hwilde> but on boot it goes to low res mode
[05:11] <hwilde> it says to configure and that generates a generic xorg.conf but no better
[05:11] <crimsun> ok, so try removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe then forcibly symlinking it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:13] <crimsun> if you're really, really hard-pressed, you could even chattr +i the affected files
[05:14] <hwilde> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   24 2008-06-15 00:21 xorg.conf.failsafe -> xorg.conf.20080613223821
[05:21] <hwilde> crimsun, /var/log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/f67e3168a
[05:22] <crimsun> ok, so it keeps regenerating failsafe?
[05:22] <hwilde> yeah it took over
[05:23] <hwilde> xorg.conf.failsafe  http://pastebin.com/f1816c340
[05:24] <crimsun> forcibly copy the correct one as failsafe, then chattr +i
[05:25] <crimsun> that's definitely a bug somewhere, but I haven't experienced it
[05:26] <hwilde> it won't boot with the 'correct' one
[05:26] <hwilde> well
[05:26] <hwilde> it will boot but x will not start
[05:26] <hwilde> gdm will not start I mean
[05:26] <hwilde> it won't even give me the login prompt
[05:27] <crimsun> ok, this may sound silly, but I presume you do have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic installed?
[05:28] <hwilde> umm aptitude status p
[05:28] <hwilde> != i
[05:28] <hwilde> sry bot :/
[05:28] <crimsun> ...
[05:28] <crimsun> well, that could be at least one reason why it fails ;)
[05:29] <hwilde> The following extra packages will be installed:
[05:29] <hwilde>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[05:29] <hwilde>   nvidia-kernel-common
[05:29] <hwilde> there are a couple more reasons
[05:29] <hwilde> but why?  do I have to just lock down my system and not to apt-get upgrade ?
[05:29] <hwilde> bc I have an old laptop on 5.10 that works perfectly and i'll never upgrade that
[05:29] <hwilde> but this is my desktop and it's got new stuff so I like the updates
[05:30] <crimsun> I wonder if you have linux-generic installed.
[05:30] <hwilde> nope
[05:30] <crimsun> ok, try to keep that installed :)
[05:30] <hwilde> well
[05:30] <hwilde> wtf
[05:31] <hwilde> ...
[05:31] <hwilde> i   linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[05:31] <crimsun> unrelated.
[05:31] <hwilde> i   linux-headers-2.6.24-17-generic
[05:31] <hwilde> i   linux-headers-generic
[05:31] <crimsun> both unrelated.
[05:31] <hwilde> i   linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
[05:31] <hwilde> i   linux-image-generic
[05:32] <hwilde> how could linux-generic disappear
[05:32] <hwilde> this has all been working since 7.04
[05:32] <hwilde> through 7.10 and 8.04
[05:32] <hwilde> 8.04.1 boom
[05:33] <hwilde> I might as well go to intrepid
[05:34] <hwilde> if the updates are going to break everything atleast then I could be contributing to the beta test
[05:35] <crimsun> well, at least we managed to rule out the xorg-server security update as the culprit.
[05:36] <hwilde> yay
[05:36] <hwilde> only about 1400 packages remaining
[05:36] <hwilde> ok i've got linux-generic and restricted-modules-generic
[05:36] <hwilde> any last wishes before I go on a ctrl+alt+backspace/delete cycle
[05:37] <hwilde> 15m til I get a livecd and reinstall.
[05:41] <hwilde> lol now it just boots to the tty and I have to /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:41] <hwilde> and it's still in low res mode
[05:41] <hwilde> but i've got all those generic packages now
[05:42] <crimsun> did you undo the chattr and symlinking?
[05:42] <hwilde> no
[05:43] <hwilde>   487  cp xorg.conf.20080613223821 xorg.conf.failsafe
[05:43] <hwilde>   488  chattr +i xorg.conf.failsafe
[05:44] <hwilde> new Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/f4278dd5e
[05:44] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf  http://pastebin.com/f6a2dbc0a
[05:45] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe  http://pastebin.com/f56e4b5fc
[05:45] <hwilde> wait it is a bit different now with the modules
[05:45] <hwilde> # lsmod | grep nv
[05:45] <hwilde> nvidia               7825536  24
[05:45] <hwilde> i2c_core               24832  1 nvidia
[05:45] <hwilde> agpgart                34760  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[05:45] <crimsun> line 531 of http://pastebin.com/f4278dd5e
[05:45] <hwilde> nvidia-settings works now
[05:46] <hwilde> it is using the nvidia driver
[05:46] <hwilde> but it detects the monitor as DFP 640x480
[05:46] <hwilde> could my monitor be fried??
[05:47] <hwilde> it is popping up the onscreen menu begging for 1680x1050
[05:48] <hwilde> crimsun, so when it says no valid modes on line 531, the graphics card is trying to output 1680x1050 but the mode for the screen does not exist?
[05:49] <crimsun> well, the server does minimal sanity checking, and there's no valid reported mode from the EDID
[05:49] <hwilde> xorg.conf  Modes "1680x1050"  line 122  http://pastebin.com/f6a2dbc0a
[05:50] <crimsun> you can either hardcode the definition as in the other xorg.conf
[05:50] <hwilde> as far as I can tell, it is hardcoded.
[05:51] <hwilde> I wish I had another video card that could output 1680x1050 to verify this monitor isn't fried
[05:52] <crimsun> no, it doesn't appear to be hardcoded as in http://pastebin.com/f3735bc5b
[05:53] <hwilde> where did yo uget that from
[05:53] <hwilde> well I should be able to nvidia-xconfig now
[05:53] <crimsun> 23:51      crimsun > please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <crimsun> 23:53       hwilde > /etc/X11/xorg.conf:  http://pastebin.com/f3735bc5b
[05:53] <hwilde> hmm
[05:57] <hwilde> ok I hardcoded it   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   http://pastebin.com/f51db186d
[06:00] <hwilde> no difference
[06:00] <hwilde> boots to terminal, /etc/init.d/gdm start,   gdm is low res,  x is low res
[06:00] <crimsun> log file?
[06:01] <hwilde> nvidia module is loaded, but nvidia-settings detects screen as DFP 640x480
[06:01] <hwilde> /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/f4780cc88
[06:02] <crimsun> It has been years since I configured Nvidia settings, so I'm probably useless beyond this point.
[06:02] <hwilde> ffffffff i've never had any problems with this setup
[06:02] <hwilde> wtf happened
[06:03] <crimsun> err
[06:04] <hwilde> burning livecd
[06:04] <hwilde> debugging window running short
[06:04] <crimsun> you don't appear to be using the correct newly defined mode
[06:05] <crimsun> your modeline definition is "1680x1050@60", but you're using only "1680x1050"
[06:05] <crimsun> I won't touch the Twinview portion
[06:05] <hwilde> see line 518 (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device DFP-0
[06:06] <hwilde> I disabled the twinview, there's only one monitor hooked up
[06:06] <hwilde> and line 529 (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1680x1050+0+0"; removing.
[07:16] <hwilde> crimsun, still alive?
[07:17] <hwilde> crimsun,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   http://pastebin.com/f5d75e5e8
[07:17] <hwilde> crimsun, /var/log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/f13c5dad8
[07:18] <hwilde> crimsun, after fresh 8.04 install it's up and running 1680x1050
[07:18] <hwilde> back to 2.6.24-16-generic tho
[07:19] <hwilde> this is with default nv driver not restricted
[07:20] <hwilde> now I will install nvidia-glx-new restricted driver
[07:27] <hwilde> crimsun, wake up
[07:28] <hwilde> crimsun, after installing proprietary nvidia it reverts to low res
[07:28] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf  http://pastebin.com/f37ad0dc6
[07:28] <hwilde> /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/fc9325cf
[07:34] <hwilde> crimsun, this is the best one yet :)
[07:34] <hwilde> I have both monitors up, one is 1680x1050 and the other is stuck in low res 640x480
[07:34] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf   http://pastebin.com/f143bb191
[07:35] <hwilde> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/f6307b9a1
[07:35] <hwilde> priceless config right there :)
[07:35] <\sh> morning
[07:35] <hwilde> yeah it is 2:35am here
[07:37] <\sh> 8:37am here
[07:37] <hwilde> crimsun, switch dvi cables between monitors, resolutions follow
[07:37] <hwilde> so both monitors can display 1680x1050...
[07:37] <hwilde> I wonder if half of my video card is fried now
[08:02] <hwilde> ok I would like to file a bug about using nvidia with two separate xscreens
[08:02] <hwilde> the main screen goes to lowres 640x480
[08:02] <hwilde> the second screen is good 1680x1050
[08:02] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf  http://pastebin.com/f64cfb3c4
[08:03] <hwilde> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/f3d7da01a
[08:03] <hwilde> everything is defined correctly in the xorg.conf
[08:03] <hwilde> both video card dvi outputs have been made to output 1680x1050 and both monitors accept
[08:03] <hwilde> also switched the dvi cables just for fun
[08:04] <hwilde> it's either nvidia or xorg
[09:48] <qense> hello
[09:51] <thekorn> hello qense
[11:10] <askand> Firefox uses google.com instead of the swedish google as it should, as I am in Sweden. Should I file a bug about that?
[11:14] <bimberi> askand: I thought google themselves did that redirect.
[11:16] <askand> ﻿bimberi: oh, could you please see if it works for you?
[11:20] <bimberi> askand: Sure, hang on...
[11:22] <bimberi> askand: Redirects to google.com.au here.  I had to clear out cookies to test it fairly (I normally auto-login to GMail).  Perhaps you should try that too.
[11:22] <bimberi> askand: Oh and I am from .au :)
[11:23] <askand> ﻿bimberi:  thanks Ill try :)
[14:55] <hwilde> crimsun, alive yet?
[15:20] <hwilde>  I would like to file a bug about using nvidia with two separate xscreens
[15:20] <hwilde> the main screen goes to lowres 640x480
[15:20] <hwilde> the second screen is good 1680x1050
[15:20] <hwilde> /etc/X11/xorg.conf  http://pastebin.com/f64cfb3c4
[15:20] <hwilde> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.com/f3d7da01a
[15:24] <hwilde> nvidia-settings detects the one monitor as 640x480 even if its hardcoded in xorg.conf
[16:20] <crimsun> hwilde: so installing the version in the hardy repo results in losing native res?
[16:20] <crimsun> hwilde: have you tried adding the option to ignore edid?
[16:20] <crimsun> hwilde: if there are newer drivers available, have you tried those?
[16:51] <pep> Hello
[16:55] <qense> hello pep
[19:49] <alex_mayorga> Hi, is here the right place to "talk" to someone live to confirm I'm seeing an actual bug and not file a bogus bug report? Thanks in advance
[19:50] <darthanubis> alex_mayorga, check launchpad, and google
[19:51] <alex_mayorga> darthanubis, done already, just wanted to rule out "user error"
[19:52] <darthanubis> well I googel to see if someone else has reported already, if not I feel free to report
[19:57] <alex_mayorga> not sure where to assign, the problem is that a bunch of KODAK_, KODAK__ unreadable folders under /media
[19:58] <alex_mayorga> are created and retained forever whenever I insert an SD card on my laptop
[19:58] <techno_freak> alex_mayorga, is it a SD card you use in your camera?
[19:59] <alex_mayorga> yes
[20:00] <techno_freak> alex_mayorga, the camera might be storing some of its own files in the SD card, which it might not allow you to read
[20:00] <techno_freak> files, folders, etc.
[20:01] <techno_freak> so when you mount the SD card, it's also there but not readable
[20:01] <alex_mayorga> one icon is created on the desktop and I can read he files from there
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> I was just wandering on the file system and found the bogus folders
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> techno_freak what component should it be the bug filed against? udev?
[20:02] <askan1> Hi, how is bug 219684 fixed? Can I help?
[20:03] <techno_freak> alex_mayorga, i still wonder why you call it a bug?
[20:04] <alex_mayorga> techno_freak, probably related to Bug #199215
[20:05] <techno_freak> alex_mayorga, is your bug is about a few folders being mounted in non-readable state?
[20:05] <alex_mayorga> techno_freak, I have to go now, I'll subscribe to that one and pick it up from there later, thanks
[21:06] <afflux> techno_freak: just fyi, the problem alex_mayorga was experiencing sounds exactly like bug 101845
[21:07] <techno_freak> afflux, thanks will check it out