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pwnguinis there a reason to prefer bitmap icons over svg for icons?02:15
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qensepersia: j castro told me that dholbach said that you might be interested in this idea: http://www.qense.nl/posts/114/ What do you think?11:04
Chipzz_qense: try asking during the week11:25
qenseOK11:25
guysoft42hi all, it seems the latest python-twisted-core package gives an error status 1 on install12:17
guysoft42is there anyone that this will interest here?12:19
qenseI know there is a way of letting avahi 'publish' a domain name to other zeroconf enabled computers so they know that 'mywonderfulserver.local' points to you, but how do you do that?12:40
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lukehasnonamebug #23907217:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239072 in jockey "Driver manager doesn't detect correct drivers for 8800M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23907217:18
Lutindoko_: would the gcc hardening patches cause a FTBFS if eg NULL is used and stddef.h included indirectly ?17:28
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GyrosGeierhi18:00
GyrosGeierI maintain asio in Debian, and just noticed that it got into intrepid/main18:01
cjwatsonyes, seems so18:03
GyrosGeiersince we're not sure whether asio will ship as a "proper" library or as a bunch of files that use "using namespace boost::asio;" to get all users of that code (that is currently duplicated by upstream and packed into two separate tarballs) towards using a single copy18:03
GyrosGeier(we being upstream and the rdepends in Debian)18:03
GyrosGeierit might be a good idea to sync that18:04
cjwatsonsync which, sorry?18:04
cjwatson(bug 213688 is the context for main promotion)18:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 213688 in asio "Main Inclusion Report for asio" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21368818:04
GyrosGeiermy point is that it might get dropped from Debian pre-lenny18:05
GyrosGeierin which case Ubuntu would be stuck with it18:05
GyrosGeier"dropped" as in "replaced by a redirector library"18:05
cjwatsonwell, we could just follow what Debian does, no need to be stuck with it as long as it happens reasonably before intrepid ...?18:06
GyrosGeierthat was my concern18:06
cjwatsonat the moment we're just syncing the package in the normal way, it seems18:06
cjwatsonin any case, the relevant rdepend seems to be abiword 2.618:06
cjwatsonis there a bug on abiword we can follow?18:07
GyrosGeierwell, currently upstream still ships the library as two separate packages18:07
GyrosGeierbut is contemplating to stop that, now that asio is part of boost 1.35, although with a different namespace18:08
cjwatsonI guess I'm slightly confused as to what we're supposed to do for now18:08
cjwatsonwe can't realistically throw abiword 2.6 back out, and we can't ship code that isn't written yet ;-)18:08
GyrosGeiernothing, if intrepid is far enough away18:08
cjwatsonI'm not sure what's happening with abiword 2.6 in hardy; it was certainly on the cards at some point18:09
GyrosGeierthe basic questions for me would be in which timeframe such a replacement package would need to appear18:09
GyrosGeierasio is in hardy/universe18:09
cjwatsonthough, well, it would hardly be the first time we continued to support code that upstream doesn't care about any more18:09
cjwatsonright now, yes18:09
cjwatsonthat may not continue to be the case if abiword 2.6 is added to 8.04.118:09
GyrosGeierah18:10
cjwatsonwhich was at one point a possibility, though I'm not up to date18:10
GyrosGeieris there an individual I should coordinate with?18:10
cjwatsonthe timeframe for Debian uploads filtering straight through to intrepid with no fuss is 26 June; after that it requires manual action but no particular approval until 28 August18:10
GyrosGeierokay, so semi-urgent18:11
cjwatsonafter that we need to think about whether the new thing is better than just leaving the old thing where it is18:11
GyrosGeierthere are two main ideas18:11
GyrosGeiereither the library does the namespace forward, or the users are patched18:12
GyrosGeieri.e. s/asio::/boost::asio::/18:12
cjwatsonI think Ryan Pavlik (launchpad.net/~abiryan) has been dealing with the abiword packaging18:12
GyrosGeierokay18:12
cjwatsonand since it's an 8.04.1 proposal, various core developers have been involved in reviewing and helping out (at least doko, pitti, slangasek)18:12
GyrosGeieri.e. ubuntu-devel would be the best address, Ccing Ryan?18:14
cjwatsonGyrosGeier: yes, I think so18:15
GyrosGeiercool, thanks18:16
GyrosGeierwill do that then18:16
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leandroalis there any documentation explaining how to build my own distribution based on ubuntu?19:38
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sladenriddell is almost back19:41
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Riddellusability talk about to start for Kubuntu Tutorials Day in #kubuntu-devel21:00
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lukehasnonam1Where do I go to discuss putting a binary driver into Ubuntu's repos?22:28
pwnguinlukehasnonam1: which driver?22:34
lukehasnonam1pwnguin: Nvidia driver22:43
lukehasnonam164 bit for my 8800M22:43
lukehasnonam1The Restricted Hardware manager didn't detect my card correctly,22:44
lukehasnonam1but the nvidia linux driver worked. I still have trouble because I think ubuntu rewrites my xorg.conf22:44
lukehasnonam1In any case, It would seem that Ubuntu does not currently support the 8800M, so I thought I'd talk to someone about it. A bug report is filed, Bug 23907222:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239072 in jockey "Driver manager doesn't detect correct drivers for 8800M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23907222:45
pwnguinlukehasnonam1: wouldn't it be great to have good open source nvidia drivers?22:46
lukehasnonam1Yes, but I can't write graphics drivers.22:46
pwnguini know some people who can..22:47
pwnguinlukehasnonam1: have you heard of nouveau?22:48
lukehasnonam1no22:48
pwnguinnouveau.freedesktop.org/22:48
pwnguinlukehasnonam1: you could contribute in numerous ways22:51
pwnguinlukehasnonam1: #nouveau is a channel that can help you with the details on how22:53
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