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Zic | (sorry, amsg error on multiserver…) | 09:54 |
Zic | Désolé erreur d'amsg multiserveur / Error of /amsg command on multiserver, sorry | 09:55 |
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qense | persia: j castro told me that dholbach said that you might be interested in this idea: http://www.qense.nl/posts/114/ What do you think? | 11:04 |
Chipzz_ | qense: try asking during the week | 11:25 |
qense | OK | 11:25 |
guysoft42 | hi all, it seems the latest python-twisted-core package gives an error status 1 on install | 12:17 |
guysoft42 | is there anyone that this will interest here? | 12:19 |
qense | I know there is a way of letting avahi 'publish' a domain name to other zeroconf enabled computers so they know that 'mywonderfulserver.local' points to you, but how do you do that? | 12:40 |
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lukehasnoname | bug #239072 | 17:18 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 239072 in jockey "Driver manager doesn't detect correct drivers for 8800M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239072 | 17:18 |
Lutin | doko_: would the gcc hardening patches cause a FTBFS if eg NULL is used and stddef.h included indirectly ? | 17:28 |
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GyrosGeier | hi | 18:00 |
GyrosGeier | I maintain asio in Debian, and just noticed that it got into intrepid/main | 18:01 |
cjwatson | yes, seems so | 18:03 |
GyrosGeier | since we're not sure whether asio will ship as a "proper" library or as a bunch of files that use "using namespace boost::asio;" to get all users of that code (that is currently duplicated by upstream and packed into two separate tarballs) towards using a single copy | 18:03 |
GyrosGeier | (we being upstream and the rdepends in Debian) | 18:03 |
GyrosGeier | it might be a good idea to sync that | 18:04 |
cjwatson | sync which, sorry? | 18:04 |
cjwatson | (bug 213688 is the context for main promotion) | 18:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 213688 in asio "Main Inclusion Report for asio" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213688 | 18:04 |
GyrosGeier | my point is that it might get dropped from Debian pre-lenny | 18:05 |
GyrosGeier | in which case Ubuntu would be stuck with it | 18:05 |
GyrosGeier | "dropped" as in "replaced by a redirector library" | 18:05 |
cjwatson | well, we could just follow what Debian does, no need to be stuck with it as long as it happens reasonably before intrepid ...? | 18:06 |
GyrosGeier | that was my concern | 18:06 |
cjwatson | at the moment we're just syncing the package in the normal way, it seems | 18:06 |
cjwatson | in any case, the relevant rdepend seems to be abiword 2.6 | 18:06 |
cjwatson | is there a bug on abiword we can follow? | 18:07 |
GyrosGeier | well, currently upstream still ships the library as two separate packages | 18:07 |
GyrosGeier | but is contemplating to stop that, now that asio is part of boost 1.35, although with a different namespace | 18:08 |
cjwatson | I guess I'm slightly confused as to what we're supposed to do for now | 18:08 |
cjwatson | we can't realistically throw abiword 2.6 back out, and we can't ship code that isn't written yet ;-) | 18:08 |
GyrosGeier | nothing, if intrepid is far enough away | 18:08 |
cjwatson | I'm not sure what's happening with abiword 2.6 in hardy; it was certainly on the cards at some point | 18:09 |
GyrosGeier | the basic questions for me would be in which timeframe such a replacement package would need to appear | 18:09 |
GyrosGeier | asio is in hardy/universe | 18:09 |
cjwatson | though, well, it would hardly be the first time we continued to support code that upstream doesn't care about any more | 18:09 |
cjwatson | right now, yes | 18:09 |
cjwatson | that may not continue to be the case if abiword 2.6 is added to 8.04.1 | 18:09 |
GyrosGeier | ah | 18:10 |
cjwatson | which was at one point a possibility, though I'm not up to date | 18:10 |
GyrosGeier | is there an individual I should coordinate with? | 18:10 |
cjwatson | the timeframe for Debian uploads filtering straight through to intrepid with no fuss is 26 June; after that it requires manual action but no particular approval until 28 August | 18:10 |
GyrosGeier | okay, so semi-urgent | 18:11 |
cjwatson | after that we need to think about whether the new thing is better than just leaving the old thing where it is | 18:11 |
GyrosGeier | there are two main ideas | 18:11 |
GyrosGeier | either the library does the namespace forward, or the users are patched | 18:12 |
GyrosGeier | i.e. s/asio::/boost::asio::/ | 18:12 |
cjwatson | I think Ryan Pavlik (launchpad.net/~abiryan) has been dealing with the abiword packaging | 18:12 |
GyrosGeier | okay | 18:12 |
cjwatson | and since it's an 8.04.1 proposal, various core developers have been involved in reviewing and helping out (at least doko, pitti, slangasek) | 18:12 |
GyrosGeier | i.e. ubuntu-devel would be the best address, Ccing Ryan? | 18:14 |
cjwatson | GyrosGeier: yes, I think so | 18:15 |
GyrosGeier | cool, thanks | 18:16 |
GyrosGeier | will do that then | 18:16 |
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leandroal | is there any documentation explaining how to build my own distribution based on ubuntu? | 19:38 |
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sladen | riddell is almost back | 19:41 |
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Riddell | usability talk about to start for Kubuntu Tutorials Day in #kubuntu-devel | 21:00 |
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lukehasnonam1 | Where do I go to discuss putting a binary driver into Ubuntu's repos? | 22:28 |
pwnguin | lukehasnonam1: which driver? | 22:34 |
lukehasnonam1 | pwnguin: Nvidia driver | 22:43 |
lukehasnonam1 | 64 bit for my 8800M | 22:43 |
lukehasnonam1 | The Restricted Hardware manager didn't detect my card correctly, | 22:44 |
lukehasnonam1 | but the nvidia linux driver worked. I still have trouble because I think ubuntu rewrites my xorg.conf | 22:44 |
lukehasnonam1 | In any case, It would seem that Ubuntu does not currently support the 8800M, so I thought I'd talk to someone about it. A bug report is filed, Bug 239072 | 22:45 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 239072 in jockey "Driver manager doesn't detect correct drivers for 8800M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239072 | 22:45 |
pwnguin | lukehasnonam1: wouldn't it be great to have good open source nvidia drivers? | 22:46 |
lukehasnonam1 | Yes, but I can't write graphics drivers. | 22:46 |
pwnguin | i know some people who can.. | 22:47 |
pwnguin | lukehasnonam1: have you heard of nouveau? | 22:48 |
lukehasnonam1 | no | 22:48 |
pwnguin | nouveau.freedesktop.org/ | 22:48 |
pwnguin | lukehasnonam1: you could contribute in numerous ways | 22:51 |
pwnguin | lukehasnonam1: #nouveau is a channel that can help you with the details on how | 22:53 |
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