[02:15] is there a reason to prefer bitmap icons over svg for icons? [04:54] * Hobbsee wonders why she can't access samba shares in intrepid [09:53] !deowner [09:53] Factoid deowner not found [09:54] !deop [09:54] Factoid deop not found [09:54] ... [09:54] (sorry, amsg error on multiserver…) [09:55] Désolé erreur d'amsg multiserveur / Error of /amsg command on multiserver, sorry === hunger_t is now known as hunger [11:04] persia: j castro told me that dholbach said that you might be interested in this idea: http://www.qense.nl/posts/114/ What do you think? [11:25] qense: try asking during the week [11:25] OK [12:17] hi all, it seems the latest python-twisted-core package gives an error status 1 on install [12:19] is there anyone that this will interest here? [12:40] I know there is a way of letting avahi 'publish' a domain name to other zeroconf enabled computers so they know that 'mywonderfulserver.local' points to you, but how do you do that? === qense is now known as qense|dinner === qense|dinner is now known as qense === asac_ is now known as asac === fta_ is now known as fta === edson is now known as ecanto === ecanto is now known as edson [17:18] bug #239072 [17:18] Launchpad bug 239072 in jockey "Driver manager doesn't detect correct drivers for 8800M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239072 [17:28] doko_: would the gcc hardening patches cause a FTBFS if eg NULL is used and stddef.h included indirectly ? === qense is now known as qense|away [18:00] hi [18:01] I maintain asio in Debian, and just noticed that it got into intrepid/main [18:03] yes, seems so [18:03] since we're not sure whether asio will ship as a "proper" library or as a bunch of files that use "using namespace boost::asio;" to get all users of that code (that is currently duplicated by upstream and packed into two separate tarballs) towards using a single copy [18:03] (we being upstream and the rdepends in Debian) [18:04] it might be a good idea to sync that [18:04] sync which, sorry? [18:04] (bug 213688 is the context for main promotion) [18:04] Launchpad bug 213688 in asio "Main Inclusion Report for asio" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213688 [18:05] my point is that it might get dropped from Debian pre-lenny [18:05] in which case Ubuntu would be stuck with it [18:05] "dropped" as in "replaced by a redirector library" [18:06] well, we could just follow what Debian does, no need to be stuck with it as long as it happens reasonably before intrepid ...? [18:06] that was my concern [18:06] at the moment we're just syncing the package in the normal way, it seems [18:06] in any case, the relevant rdepend seems to be abiword 2.6 [18:07] is there a bug on abiword we can follow? [18:07] well, currently upstream still ships the library as two separate packages [18:08] but is contemplating to stop that, now that asio is part of boost 1.35, although with a different namespace [18:08] I guess I'm slightly confused as to what we're supposed to do for now [18:08] we can't realistically throw abiword 2.6 back out, and we can't ship code that isn't written yet ;-) [18:08] nothing, if intrepid is far enough away [18:09] I'm not sure what's happening with abiword 2.6 in hardy; it was certainly on the cards at some point [18:09] the basic questions for me would be in which timeframe such a replacement package would need to appear [18:09] asio is in hardy/universe [18:09] though, well, it would hardly be the first time we continued to support code that upstream doesn't care about any more [18:09] right now, yes [18:09] that may not continue to be the case if abiword 2.6 is added to 8.04.1 [18:10] ah [18:10] which was at one point a possibility, though I'm not up to date [18:10] is there an individual I should coordinate with? [18:10] the timeframe for Debian uploads filtering straight through to intrepid with no fuss is 26 June; after that it requires manual action but no particular approval until 28 August [18:11] okay, so semi-urgent [18:11] after that we need to think about whether the new thing is better than just leaving the old thing where it is [18:11] there are two main ideas [18:12] either the library does the namespace forward, or the users are patched [18:12] i.e. s/asio::/boost::asio::/ [18:12] I think Ryan Pavlik (launchpad.net/~abiryan) has been dealing with the abiword packaging [18:12] okay [18:12] and since it's an 8.04.1 proposal, various core developers have been involved in reviewing and helping out (at least doko, pitti, slangasek) [18:14] i.e. ubuntu-devel would be the best address, Ccing Ryan? [18:15] GyrosGeier: yes, I think so [18:16] cool, thanks [18:16] will do that then === dpm_ is now known as dpm === qense|away is now known as qense [19:38] is there any documentation explaining how to build my own distribution based on ubuntu? === stevie is now known as vorian [19:41] riddell is almost back === Kopfgeldjaeger2 is now known as Kopfgeldjaeger [21:00] usability talk about to start for Kubuntu Tutorials Day in #kubuntu-devel === Pricey is now known as PriceChild === geser_ is now known as geser [22:28] Where do I go to discuss putting a binary driver into Ubuntu's repos? [22:34] lukehasnonam1: which driver? [22:43] pwnguin: Nvidia driver [22:43] 64 bit for my 8800M [22:44] The Restricted Hardware manager didn't detect my card correctly, [22:44] but the nvidia linux driver worked. I still have trouble because I think ubuntu rewrites my xorg.conf [22:45] In any case, It would seem that Ubuntu does not currently support the 8800M, so I thought I'd talk to someone about it. A bug report is filed, Bug 239072 [22:45] Launchpad bug 239072 in jockey "Driver manager doesn't detect correct drivers for 8800M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239072 [22:46] lukehasnonam1: wouldn't it be great to have good open source nvidia drivers? [22:46] Yes, but I can't write graphics drivers. [22:47] i know some people who can.. [22:48] lukehasnonam1: have you heard of nouveau? [22:48] no [22:48] nouveau.freedesktop.org/ [22:51] lukehasnonam1: you could contribute in numerous ways [22:53] lukehasnonam1: #nouveau is a channel that can help you with the details on how === Kmos_ is now known as Kmos