[01:03] <tanstaafl32> greets all...using a pvr-350 and a digital cable box (moto), shouldn't i be able to see streaming video in VLC?
[01:04] <tanstaafl32> sorry for the lack of wind up:  this is a new install, i can get the schedules, etc, just no live video
[02:16] <petriborg> question / opinions -- is the mythbuntu metapackage any good? any experiences w/ installing it on an 8.04 ubuntu desktop would be much appreciated -- I'd really like to avoid screwing up my raid and other development :-)
[02:20] <petriborg> anyone?
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> petriborg, yea we tend to think it's pretty good.  Although what you probably should do is install mythbuntu-control-centre and configure from there
[03:22] <petriborg> this is different from the http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu  ?
[03:27] <petriborg> i just want to make sure i'm not going to hose my existing setup since it is my primary machine, i'm also building a second box which I'm intending as a front end -- I'm thinking it might be better to do that as a front/back if nothing else but for practice...
[03:35] <petriborg> thats for ﻿tgm4883_laptop i suppose
[03:48] <ChrisC35> iamlindoro
[03:48] <ChrisC35> iamlindoro__
[03:49] <ChrisC35> can anyone help me get my HVR-1600 to work with a fresh install of mythbuntu?
[03:50] <ChrisC35> i have to clone hg or something
[03:56] <ChrisC35> what is mythdora?
[03:57] <ChrisC35> what is better mythdora or mythbuntu
[04:01] <ChrisC35> is anyone here?
[04:02] <petriborg> yeah but i don't know a damn thing about mythdora vs mythbuntu :-)
[04:03] <petriborg> i'm just trying to figure out if its a bad idea to install myth on a primary server which i use, or if its robust enough not to send my system in to the drink
[04:06] <ChrisC35> cant help u there
[04:54] <geraldnunn> Dumb question, but when you are using the EPG with the LiveTV preview, is there any way to directly jump the EPG to a specific channel? I'd like to type '528' on the remote and have the guide jump to that channel
[04:56] <geraldnunn> Never mind, just found it in settings
[05:37] <ChrisC35> if it says 'unable to probe' does that mean the tv tuner is not working (or mythbuntu cant recognize it)?
[05:38] <foxbuntu> ChrisC35, what type of tuner is it?
[05:38] <Solarbaby> I've never been able to probe..  but then again I use a usb IR device to switch the channels on my satalite
[05:40] <ChrisC35> hvr-1600
[05:40] <ChrisC35> i cloned and compiled hg
[05:41] <ChrisC35> and install
[05:41] <ChrisC35> rebooted
[05:41] <foxbuntu> ChrisC35, the driver is still only beta...its not well supported yet
[05:41] <foxbuntu> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1600
[05:46] <ChrisC35> well i thought i did install the v4l-dvb drivers
[05:47] <foxbuntu> had you not?
[05:47] <ChrisC35> but when i go to configure a mpeg-2 source, it just says unable to probe
[05:47] <ChrisC35> yes i did hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
[05:48] <ChrisC35> make and make install
[05:57] <foxbuntu> ChrisC35, well sorry I really can't be of much help on the matter, I suggest the forums
[07:53] <happy> Howdy, I have a tv tuner related question. I have a Compro T750F (I am assuming it has the same drivers as the T750). From what I can gather V4L project supports this as card 139, unfortunately the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa7134 list only goes to 132. My Kernel version is 2.6.25-6 (well it should be at least, that is what I tried upgrading too from 2.6.24-18). I would like to know the best method of getting the new saa7134 dr
[07:53] <happy> ivers into a custom kernel of some kind...
[08:16] <sebrock> I need some help starting NFS on boot with fstab... I get mount.nfs: internal error. Guessing it has to do with networking starting to late...
[08:16] <sebrock> I have tried movinf stuff in rc.2 but to no avail
[09:22] <sebrock> Am I the only one experiencing problems with NFS mounts on boot here?
[09:22] <happy> sebrock, I have not even reached that point =P
[09:29] <sebrock> happy, what do you mean?
[09:37] <source_code> hello everyone. is it possible to install mythtv 0.20. version on ubuntu 8.04
[09:37] <superm1> not via packages
[09:37] <superm1> you'll have to do it from source if you want to
[09:38] <source_code> i am actually trying to get mythtv frontend to run on my xbox
[09:38] <superm1> well if i were you i'd just compile 0.21 for the xbox
[09:38] <superm1> rather than 0.20 for ubuntu
[09:39] <source_code> via xbmc or xebian but failed so far. do you have any suggestions for 0.21 working with xbmc or xebian
[09:39] <superm1> there are lots of nicities integration wise that come with the packages on ubuntu
[09:39] <superm1> can't say i've ever had to work with an xbox
[09:39] <superm1> sorry
[09:41] <source_code> i read somewhere that mythtv versions are same for all branched projects too e.g xbmcmythtv. meaning xbmcmythtv 0.20 will only work for backend 0.20
[09:43] <superm1> which is true, but if you have a general purpose linux distro installed
[09:43] <superm1> like xebian
[09:43] <superm1> you can build mythtv at least
[09:43] <superm1> for the 0.21 version
[09:43] <source_code> as frontend...?
[09:44] <superm1> yeah
[12:06] <Solarbaby> superm1: I've missed you
[12:07] <laga> ooh, how cute :)
[12:08] <Solarbaby> I finally got around to rebuilding a mythbox
[12:08] <Solarbaby> so now the fun begins!
[12:53] <baalsgate> Solarbaby with the new disrto it is getting very easy to get a myth box goin
[12:55] <baalsgate> compared to installing it three years ago that is
[12:57] <baalsgate> going from 7.10 to 8.04 caused a few new problems but fixed many old ones , menus are so much faster now
[12:57] <baalsgate> and cron jobs actualy work
[12:58] <baalsgate> padtokeys for imon not in the lirc was a disapointment but otherwise it all looks to be happy
[13:00] <baalsgate> upgrade process would have been much easier if i didnt need to mess with custom lirc builds but other than that im happy
[13:09] <Solarbaby> for some reason im having a little trouble getting my Hauppauge 350 working
[13:09] <Solarbaby> weird
[13:09] <Solarbaby> I guess I really should give the log files a look over
[13:24] <Solarbaby> Hey ..  Farout.. Log Files are My Friends!
[14:27] <propagandhi> is this channel  for users?
[14:28] <propagandhi> i've got a problem where i cannot adjust the volume when watching live tv, but when watching movies etc it works fine
[14:29] <petriborg> it is the channel, no idea about problem though :-)
[14:30] <petriborg> anyone know what myth uses expect for?
[14:30] <propagandhi> petriborg: ok thanks
[15:21] <bibabenjo> hello, is somebody there who has experience with configuring lirc?
[15:22] <laga> !ask
[15:22] <laga> just ask a question :)
[15:23] <|gunni|> Hi there. I got a problem running mythtv-backend on an AMD K6-2 machine. Is it a bug, or is it just that i586 is not supported and i686 is minimum?
[15:24] <laga> yes
[15:24] <laga> (to the latter)
[15:24] <|gunni|> i686 is minimum?
[15:24] <|gunni|> Do you know if it should work on debian then?
[15:24] <laga> yes
[15:25] <laga> debian will probably work. i don't know how marillat's packages are compiled
[15:25] <|gunni|> I will try then
[15:25] <sebrock> finally got the LCD working, however I need to pass a paramter to the module, is this possible in mythbuntu-control-center?
[15:26] <bibabenjo> allright, im configuring my remote control, and it works well with amarok! Now Im trying to configure it as a virtual mouse! I added an entry in the xorg.conf and also edited the lircmd.conf! Unfortunately it doesnt work and i cant figure out  why
[15:28] <sebrock> anyone knows if it is possible to pass module parameters with mythbuntu control center?
[15:42] <sebrock> what is the lp module?
[15:53] <popey> should mythtranscode work out of the box on mythbuntu 8.04? I ask because if i choose to transcode a programme it fails with error 255. If I run mythtranscode manually on an mpg file it says:- http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/935
[15:53] <popey> is there somewhere in mythtv I need to configure transcoding?
[16:50] <Daviey> popey: user jobs :)
[16:50] <Daviey> Where are you adding them?
[16:52] <Daviey> I can't tell you the setting off the top of my head.. Not @ home
[16:58] <popey> hang on
[16:58] <popey> there is a setting to transcode in myth-setup
[16:58] <popey> you don't need to add a user job, it's a pre-defined job
[16:58] <popey> but anyway, it fails when run from the command line
[16:59] <popey> so i fail to see how setting a user job would fix it
[22:00] <ChrisC35> whats the main differences betwen mythbuntu and mythdora
[22:02] <ChrisC35> iamlindoro__ are you here
[22:03] <ChrisC35> i'm trying to install the v4l-dvb drivers, can anyone help?
[22:03] <ChrisC35> how can I check to see if they are installed?
[22:07] <Daviey> < ChrisC35> whats the main differences betwen mythbuntu and mythdora
[22:07] <Daviey> Mythbuntu is based on ubuntu and keeps close ties
[22:08] <Daviey> mythdora is based on Fedora
[22:08] <Daviey> ^ Main difference
[22:09] <popey> Daviey: you at home now? any chance you can press the transcode button and see if it works on your myth backend?
[22:10] <Daviey> sure
[22:10] <popey> thanks
[22:10] <popey> alternatively, just run mythtranscode --infile /path/to/an/mpg/file/created/by/mythtv
[22:13] <ChrisC35> im trying to get my hvr-1600 to work - i installed the v4l-dvb drivers, and the hauppauge is showing up when I do a lspci -v. But in myth setup for mpeg-2 it just always reports that it can't see it for tv card setup
[22:13] <Daviey> popey: hmm
[22:13] <Daviey> 2008-06-15 22:11:20.487 No video information found!
[22:13] <Daviey> 2008-06-15 22:11:20.487 Please ensure that recording profiles for the transcoder are set
[22:15] <popey> 2008-06-15 22:14:35.999 No video information found!
[22:15] <popey> 2008-06-15 22:14:35.999 Please ensure that recording profiles for the transcoder are set
[22:15] <popey> funny that :)
[22:15] <Daviey> ChrisC35: no experience with the hvr-1600, is it detected in dmesg?
[22:15] <Daviey> It's possible the firmware isn't in the distribution
[22:16] <ChrisC35> its a big list, but i see at the end: lirc_i2c: chip 0x10020 found @ 0x71 (Hauppauge PVR150)
[22:18] <ChrisC35> i also see autodetected Hauppauge card
[22:18] <ChrisC35> shows tuner model, etc
[22:19] <ChrisC35> maybe i should go buy another card
[22:19] <ChrisC35> what should I get\
[22:19] <Daviey> naa, it should work.. let me look at popey's problem first
[22:20] <ChrisC35> k
[22:20] <popey> Daviey: feel free to do him first, i can wait
[22:27] <ChrisC35> when i'm in the mythtv setup, for tv card, I choose the mpeg2 one, and it jsut says Failed to open
[22:27] <ChrisC35> under probed info
[22:27] <ChrisC35> is it because i need to get that schedulesdirect.org first?
[22:27] <ChrisC35> or can it just use EIT transmitted  guide
[22:28] <ChrisC35> under input connections it says "could not open to probe its inputs
[22:35] <ChrisC35> Daviey?
[22:39] <Daviey> popey: found it :)
[22:39] <popey> yay
[22:39] <Daviey> popey: go into frontend settings -> tv settings -> Recording profiles
[22:39] <popey> one mo
[22:39] <Daviey> and literally, just open each entry and press enter through them
[22:39] <popey> hang on, on the backend or frontend?
[22:40] <Daviey> For some reason it seems they are not commited to database on install :/
[22:40] <popey> in myth-setup or what?
[22:40] <Daviey> frontend
[22:41] <popey> isn' this a backend task?
[22:42] <Daviey> popey: some backend tasks are on displayed on the frontend
[22:43] <Daviey> the idea being that mythtv-setup only deals with setting up tuners
[22:43] <Daviey> and listings
[22:43] <popey> ok, so i have gone through that, will that adjust settings on the backend then?
[22:43] <Daviey> mythtv-setup is complicated enough! :)
[22:43] <popey> no I have visited those pages
[22:43] <popey> *now
[22:43] <Daviey> yeah, it does the mysql database
[22:43] <Daviey> so, a transcode _shoudl_ now work
[22:44] <Daviey> or at least it did for me
[22:44] <popey> ooooo
[22:44] <popey> you're good!
[22:44] <popey> beer++
[22:44] <Daviey> heh
[22:44] <Daviey> :)
[22:44] <Daviey> NEXT
[22:44] <popey> have you filed a bug? should ?
[22:44] <popey> should I ?
[22:44] <Daviey> crack on :)
[22:45] <popey> will do tomorrow
[22:45] <Daviey> yah
[22:45] <popey> once I queue up all these transcodes and hope they work on my poor 1Mhz cpu ;)
[22:45] <Daviey> ChrisC35: Channel listings is unrelated to setting up the tuners
[22:45] <Daviey> popey: i only allow 1 concurrent task on my weak backend
[22:46] <Daviey> i don't know what the default is (2-3?), that's a backend task- Under "1. General"
[22:46] <popey> no, mine is set to 1 too
[22:46] <popey> but i have a few programmes to transcode :()
[22:46] <Daviey> You can also set it to only run overnight
[22:46] <popey> nice!
[22:46] <popey> I am rapidly becoming a myth convert
[22:46] <popey> need to get some more frontends :)
[22:47] <Daviey> popey: if you also set up a backend (with no tuners), that could be just a transcoder farm :)
[22:47] <Daviey> so WoL it when needed, halt when finished :D
[22:47] <popey> niiiice
[22:47] <popey> my desktop could do that - dual core etc
[22:48] <Daviey> esp, if you set a `nice` value
[22:48] <popey> wouldn't want the desktop to shutdown when I'm using it tho :)
[22:48] <Daviey> ChrisC35: can you do a test, can you try and use your tuner exteranlly to mythtv?
[22:49] <Daviey> ie, if it works in Ubuntu it'll work in Mythbuntu :)
[22:49] <popey> 3 mins to do 5%
[22:49] <Daviey> how long recording?
[22:49] <popey> dunno, picked a random mpg
[22:50] <Daviey> popey: "mythrename.pl" useful cron job :)
[22:50] <popey> will kill it to run them via the web
[22:50] <popey> does that rename mpgs?
[22:50] <Daviey> */8 * * * * /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/mythrename.pl --link
[22:51] <Daviey> adds a $recording_location/show_names/REALNAME.mpg
[22:51] <Daviey> ie,
[22:51] <Daviey> Watchdog - 2008-05-12, 7-30 PM.mpg
[22:51] <Daviey> Welcome To The Jungle - 2008-02-10, 9-00 PM - Action adventure story and Seann William Scott.mpg
[22:51] <Daviey> Who Do You Think You Are- - 2008-04-10, 9-00 PM - Barbara Windsor.mpg
[22:51] <popey> nice
[22:52] <Daviey> Without the --link it'll actually rename the file, and update the database.. I don't like having filenames with spaces, so --link suites me better
[22:53] <Daviey> --link [destination directory] if you don't want recording_location/show_names/
[22:54] <ChrisC35> sure .. not sure how i woudl do that though
[22:56] <ChrisC35> Daviey any suggestion to how I woudl test it in ubuntu?
[22:59] <Daviey> ChrisC35: what type of DVB is it?
[22:59] <Daviey> (i guess it is?)
[23:00] <ChrisC35> i dont know\
[23:00] <ChrisC35> its a hvr-1600 by hauppauge
[23:00] <Daviey> You were asking about the v4l-dvb, so i assume it is DVB.
[23:01] <Daviey> Is it cable, aerial or satellite?
[23:01] <ChrisC35> i just followed the suggestion of someone to install dirvers for it
[23:01] <ChrisC35> cable
[23:01] <Daviey> OK!
[23:01] <Daviey> I'd use czap
[23:01] <ChrisC35> and i installed http://www.linuxtv.org/repo/
[23:02] <Daviey> I thought VLC had native support for DVB-C.. but don't know
[23:02] <Daviey> but google for --->czap mplayer<--
[23:02] <Daviey> see if you get any joy, if not come back? ok?
[23:03] <ChrisC35> trying to find it
[23:05]  * Daviey has never used DVB + Cable.. but do use DVB + aerial 
[23:05] <Daviey> apt-get install dvb-utils
[23:05] <ChrisC35> is there another name for czap?
[23:05] <ChrisC35> i cant seem to find it
[23:05] <Daviey> have a look in: /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-c/ for your provider?
[23:08] <ChrisC35> i have no dvb-utils in /doc/
[23:13] <Daviey> ooo, i just had a thought..
[23:13] <Daviey> my US foo is weak
[23:13] <Daviey> Does your cable provider supplied box have firewire?
[23:17] <ChrisC35> em..
[23:17] <ChrisC35> there is no supplied box - the cable comes out of the wall
[23:18] <Daviey> If you weren't using mythtv, how would you watch tv?
[23:18] <ChrisC35> plug the coaxial cable into my tv set
[23:18] <Daviey> Ah..
[23:18] <ChrisC35> this is not digital btw
[23:18] <ChrisC35> analog
[23:18] <Daviey> then you don't want DVB :)
[23:18] <ChrisC35> oh ok
[23:18] <Daviey> Digital Video Broadcast :)
[23:18] <ChrisC35> is that the driver i installed|?
[23:19] <Daviey> yus
[23:19] <ChrisC35> the problem is I dont know much about what I"m doing, i just followed instructions from someone's suggestion
[23:19] <ChrisC35> so what do you think i can do to get this 1600 to work with myth?
[23:20] <Daviey> well the hvr-1600 (just googled) is a Hybrid card
[23:20] <Daviey> so supports both digital and analogue.
[23:20] <ChrisC35> that sounds positive
[23:21] <ChrisC35> am I supposed to set mythtv to analogue somehow?
[23:22] <Daviey> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1600
[23:22] <Daviey> interesting read...
[23:23] <ChrisC35> yes i followed the installation guide on that page
[23:23] <ChrisC35> Grab the latest v4l-dvb drivers from http://www.linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb, etc
[23:24] <Daviey> http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18 <---
[23:24] <Daviey> do that ^
[23:24] <Daviey> Hardy = 2.6.24, Intrepid = 2.6.26 (AFAIK).. it should work out of the box in the next release, but not hardy
[23:25] <ChrisC35> hmm ya i just noticed that too - i will try it now
[23:25] <Daviey> Ie, it's not in the kernel yet
[23:28] <ChrisC35> do you know is it possible to use my logitech wireless keyboard/mouse with mythbuntu?
[23:28] <Daviey> if it works in ubuntu...
[23:28] <Daviey> i'd guess yes
[23:31] <ChrisC35> actually i think I already did this
[23:31] <ChrisC35> i'll tyr again\
[23:34] <ChrisC35> how do I upn
[23:34] <ChrisC35> how do I unpack a bz2?
[23:34] <ChrisC35> i'm somewhat newbie to linux
[23:34] <ChrisC35> i dl a file tip.tar.bz2
[23:36] <ChrisC35> ah i see the answer under stupic question #477 :)
[23:36] <ChrisC35> stupid
[23:56] <abarbaccia> ﻿so when i use the default (vesa?) drivers, hdmi works, but when i switch to fglrx, it doesn't... any advice?