| pteague | i'm having issues setting up suphp on apache2... it doesn't seem to like "suPHP_UserGroup user group" in the vhost & removing it seems to write files that are www-data:group ... | 00:56 |
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| sayotte | this is very helpful for debugging NFS, particularly item #24 | 01:11 |
| sayotte | http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/NFS-troubleshooting-2.html | 01:11 |
| jambooda | Hey has anyone successfully installed megaraid 00.00.03.16 on ubuntu server 8.04? | 01:13 |
| jambooda | is anyone in here running ubuntu server on dell hardware using perc 6i? | 01:14 |
| jambooda | is anyone even running it in an enterprise level environment? | 01:15 |
| jambooda | is anyone running it period...this channel is DEAD | 01:15 |
| Twigathy | 0xDEADC4AN | 01:28 |
| Twigathy | And nope, sorry. I use onboard sata and a pair of dirt cheap chinese siI cards | 01:28 |
| jambooda | that def sucks..I've pretty much resigned myself to moving to CentOS since I hear it works just fine | 01:36 |
| jambooda | ubuntu is great on the desktop but they're dragging their feet on the server end it seems | 01:36 |
| hads | Works fine for us | 01:42 |
| sayotte | jambooda: I've seen it deployed by some application service providers | 01:43 |
| sayotte | but not really large ones who need someone's monetary neck to wring if it goes wrong | 01:43 |
| jambooda | those app service providers aren't giving back to the community then because i've been tyring to find info for two days on how to upgrade the megaraid drivers and nada | 01:44 |
| jambooda | the drivers ubuntu server ships will isn't adequate for the perc 6i raid controllers | 01:44 |
| jambooda | there are issues under heavy load | 01:44 |
| sayotte | maybe | 01:45 |
| sayotte | you shouldn't be using Dell hardware in your Enterprise Level Environment | 01:45 |
| jambooda | haha | 01:45 |
| sayotte | but I won't suggest Ubuntu would be any better on different hardware | 01:45 |
| jambooda | is that so | 01:45 |
| jambooda | what should I be using then? | 01:45 |
| sayotte | if you're asking seriously, I will in all seriousness recommend HP, IBM or Sun | 01:46 |
| jambooda | to me that's an easy way to brush the problems to the side by saying you shouldn't be using x hardware | 01:46 |
| sayotte | no, I'm not brushing it aside | 01:46 |
| sayotte | I'm not suggesting Ubuntu would be fine if you just weren't using cheap hardware | 01:47 |
| sayotte | I'm not | 01:47 |
| sayotte | it's just a "while you're at it..." comment | 01:47 |
| sayotte | there might be a correlation, since if you weren't on Dell hardware you wouldn't be dealing with their annoying-ass PERC controllers | 01:47 |
| jambooda | dude the amount of money I spend on my hardware is definitely not cheap | 01:48 |
| jambooda | furthermore if its good enough for redhat and suse to support it fully then why not ubuntu | 01:48 |
| sayotte | how many hundred grand per machine? it's not cheap to *us* because we're individuals, but it's cheap in the world of enterprise hardware | 01:48 |
| jambooda | i'm a little peeved because I was looking forward to installing ubuntu solely in my environment but so far the support I've gotten from the community and ubuntu hasn't been much | 01:49 |
| sayotte | bottom line: if you need a Supported Linux Platform, you need to be talking to a Linux Vendor | 01:49 |
| sayotte | and Ubuntu is not a linux vendor | 01:49 |
| jambooda | now I need to move to another distro that i'm not really familiar with and have no interest in using | 01:49 |
| jambooda | kinda sucks | 01:49 |
| sayotte | yeah I feel ya | 01:49 |
| sayotte | I run Ubuntu for all the interesting machines I have outside of work (the application servers anyway) | 01:50 |
| sayotte | at work I run mostly Solaris | 01:50 |
| sayotte | but we've started rolling out Linux machines recently because our customers want us to support that | 01:50 |
| sayotte | they asked, we recommended some debian distribution because they don't suck | 01:51 |
| jambooda | i see...well I guess Ubuntu is going to remain a fun OS to use and not one to be taken seriously | 01:51 |
| sayotte | we didn't recommend SuSE only because the Novell/MS thing is making that distro a little annoying | 01:51 |
| sayotte | so, inevitably, we ended up on Redhat | 01:51 |
| jambooda | you want a serious distro go redhat, suse | 01:51 |
| jambooda | heck even centos | 01:51 |
| sayotte | yeah pretty much | 01:51 |
| sayotte | it's sad that the best software available is usually *not* what we get to use where it would do the most good | 01:52 |
| sayotte | but that's not the measuring stick... the measuring stick is the availability of 1000 goons to show up at your site and fix whatever is wrong, as agreed upon in a support contract, when everything blows up all of a sudden | 01:53 |
| jambooda | true indeed | 01:53 |
| sayotte | :( | 01:53 |
| jambooda | anyway thanks for the chat..gotta do some research on some serious vendors | 01:54 |
| hads | haha | 01:55 |
| Brazenn | Ubuntu may not be a linux vendor, but Canonical is! | 04:01 |
| robvdl | Is there a way to ensure that daemon1 starts before daemon2 in ubuntu? currently they are starting in the wrong order, as one is reliant on the other I need one to start first | 06:08 |
| hads | robvdl: That's controlled by the names of the links in /etc/rc$NUMBER.d/ which is usually managed with the program update-rc.d in Ubuntu, | 06:17 |
| robvdl | I created one daemon script myself /etc/init.d/assp because assp isn't in the repository, assp has to start after clamav | 06:18 |
| robvdl | but will check out the man page for update-rc.d thanks | 06:19 |
| hads | Basically you just need to make sure that the links to assp have a higher number than clamav | 06:20 |
| robvdl | assp is a great spam filter by the way :) I find it loads better than spamassassin | 06:21 |
| robvdl | just not sure why its not in universe yet, but it's easy enough to install manually | 06:21 |
| hads | I should check it out some time. | 06:24 |
| robvdl | it acts like an smtp proxy | 06:25 |
| robvdl | so stops mail before it hits the mail server | 06:25 |
| robvdl | it's written in perl and there's an easy guide on the howtoforge | 06:26 |
| hads | Not a whole lot of spam hits amavis here since using greylisting and spamhaus RBL | 06:27 |
| robvdl | assp has that functionality too, another cool thing is the web based configuration | 06:28 |
| robvdl | I used to run assp through courier on edgy but since reloading my server I now use citadel as mail/groupware | 06:28 |
| robvdl | which kind of does everything in one, pop, imap, groupware and web based interface, kind of like a slimmed down zimbra | 06:29 |
| thenewguy | i really like assp it has done wonders on my server | 06:44 |
| robvdl | cool, got it sorted now clamav starts before assp, thanks | 07:29 |
| Valsum | Hello! I'm trying to update my GPG key in Launchpad, but it seems the keyserver is down... | 08:30 |
| ray-irc | Is any one here that can help me set up a USB modem? | 08:32 |
| ray-irc | Or does any one know a good place for help setting up a USB modem for Ubuntu server? | 08:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Valsum, perhaps tell #launchpad | 08:33 |
| Valsum | ok, thanks KK | 08:34 |
| ray-irc | I asked for help at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798793 it's been weeks and no one has helped. | 08:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Valsum, np | 08:34 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ray-irc, is it posable for you to get a not-horrible modem? | 08:35 |
| ray-irc | I don't know what not-horrible modem is? Are you saying the USB modem I have is bad for Ubuntu? | 08:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | usb modems are bad full stop (imnsho of course ...) | 08:37 |
| ray-irc | I have a old RS232 + USB 3Com U.S. Robotics 56K Voice Faxmodem Pro that works. But I don't like that's it's about as big as the Ubuntu server I have Ubuntu running on. That's why I like some small USB modem. | 08:39 |
| ray-irc | The big USB modem that works easy with Ubuntu modem no. :0525 it's like plug and play with ubuntu. | 08:39 |
| ray-irc | So I thought any USB modem would work easy with ubuntu. But this USRobotics USR5637 56K V.92 USB modem I just can't get to work. | 08:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | its posable the server kernel doesnt hae support for the modem | 08:41 |
| ray-irc | I read that it works with Fedora and I think it's has the same kernel. | 08:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm pretty sure ubuntu desktop+server have different kernels | 08:44 |
| ray-irc | So would have to compile a new kernel to get it to work? I guess that's to hard to do. | 08:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i dont know. its just a thought | 08:47 |
| ctx144k | hello all | 12:21 |
| ctx144k | anyone knows the default-options "relatime" and "notail" in /etc/fstab for reiserfs-filesystems? | 12:25 |
| ctx144k | iam using ubuntu8.04-LTS server | 12:25 |
| ctx144k | ok, i founded that options in "man mount " | 12:27 |
| RainCT | Hi | 13:40 |
| RainCT | I'm trying to setup OpenVPN but I'm not sure what to write in the KEY_* fields in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/vars. Can someone help me? | 13:41 |
| yann2 | hi :) | 14:37 |
| yann2 | I got 3 major issues installing dapper on a sun fire x4100 :/ anyone has the same type of hardware? | 14:38 |
| yann2 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/37452 | 14:42 |
| ctx144k | anyone has an idea where to look when NFS is extremly slow? | 14:43 |
| yann2 | this means there is no possibility to install dapper on officially supported hardware.. for me its a disaster :( | 14:43 |
| ctx144k | is installed nfs-kernel-server - and when iam connecting via client and want copy a 100mb file i get data only with 100-200kb/s | 14:44 |
| ctx144k | both mashines are in the lan | 14:44 |
| Kapli | Does everything i put into cron.weekly run weekly? | 15:52 |
| yann2 | yes | 15:53 |
| Kapli | Is there any log to check if it ran correctly or something? | 15:54 |
| InsomniaCity | output gets mailed | 15:55 |
| Kapli | And if I don't get any email? | 15:56 |
| yann2 | install postfix? :) | 15:56 |
| InsomniaCity | lol | 15:56 |
| InsomniaCity | Kapli: check by adding output to it | 15:56 |
| InsomniaCity | but no mail means no output, if it ran | 15:57 |
| Kapli | Nono, see the problem is that I don't get an email | 15:57 |
| Kapli | well the script i put into cron.weekly is a db backup script, it backs up correctly but im not recieving email | 15:57 |
| Kapli | well see i installed sendmail when i first set up the server, but that didnt work so i installed some other thing exim4 or osmetihng | 15:58 |
| Kapli | someone told me to test emailing by mail command, didnt work but suggested installing mailx, so i did that and mail command works but still not getting email by the script | 15:59 |
| Kapli | hmm, after taking a closer look into the script it appears it sends the mail via mutt, will mutt work properly with all the different mail stuff i have installed? | 16:05 |
| Kapli | i installed mutt and it worked :) | 16:12 |
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| aplsin | why does ebox depend on 100MB of crap like x11-common? | 20:07 |
| Nafallo | because it needs it I'd assume :-P | 20:07 |
| aplsin | i thought ebox was for remote admin of server's, who put's X11 on a server? (well i do but that's on my sandbox-server because i wanna a remote (XDMCP) gnome-desktop) | 20:10 |
| Deeps | read the sauce, luke | 20:12 |
| Bhavesh | YAY so many people | 20:42 |
| Bhavesh | setup: Dual PIII, 1GB memory, onboard Promise FastTrak Lite controller, trying to install ubuntu-server with two drives connected to the promise ctrl, at install time kernel panics | 20:44 |
| Bhavesh | if i try to install it without having hdd connected to promise ctrl, install goes fine | 20:44 |
| Bhavesh | and if i install server and THEN connect drives to promise ctrl, it won't boot | 20:45 |
| Bhavesh | any suggestions/ideas? | 20:45 |
| === MenZa_ is now known as MenZa | ||
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