[00:07] shane_ /media/cdrom [00:08] i see what you are up to, shane_ [00:18] Hi - does anyone know where I can look up information on a kernel module? [00:27] Stroganoff: i see what you are up to? [00:30] Stroganoff: it is not there i have 2 cd file's and 2 floppy files but my cd/dvd isnt in any of them its working if i put a cd in and open amarok it will find it but its not listed,what is the terminal comand to see what i have for hardware in my system [00:32] Stroganoff: if you meen by all the changes iv done yah ive used almost all linux in the last few weeks and i thank everyone thats helped me make the transition and ween myself off billys tit [01:07] do you want to rip the audio cd to mp3? [01:07] sudo apt-get install sound-juicer [01:08] don't use VBR ^^ [01:20] Can anyone help me? I'm trying to configure xubuntu Hardy Heron on my uncle's Gateway MX3225 [02:25] hell all [02:25] hell o al [02:25] he lloall [02:25] dammit hello all [02:44] Hey everyone, I'm having a problem with my computer's resolution, it is currently 1280 x 800, and I want it to be 1280 x 768, can anyone help? [02:51] hello [02:51] what distro are you running? [02:51] Xubuntu [02:53] i would rerun x configurator, let me find the actual command [02:53] question: are you certain your monitor and vid card support that resolution? [02:54] Not sure, is there anyway I can check? I'm new to Xubuntu [02:54] I've tried the ubuntuforum, they told me to run a command, but my resolution was not on the lits. [02:54] list* [02:54] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:54] run through that, and put and X in the box for that resolution [02:55] 1280 x 768? [02:55] yes [02:55] do you know how to ctrl-alt-F1? [02:55] Yes. [02:55] I've used Ubuntu before. Just not Xubuntu [02:56] ok. ctrl-alt-f1, then sudo /etc/inet.d/gmd stop [02:56] What will that do? [02:56] then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure your X-org server [02:57] Okay, so from what I can tell [02:57] oops, i made a mistake above, the command is /etc/inet.d/gdm stop !!! [02:57] sudo /etc/inet.d/gmd stop will stop X-org, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will reconfigure it. [02:58] yes, but fix my gmd mistype, service is gdm, not gmd, sorry [02:58] and not sudo? [02:58] you are right, you want to kill gdm then run the reconfigure [02:58] no, you'll have to sudo [02:59] xubuntu rocks, by the way, i just switched from gnome [02:59] its worth 'fixin' [02:59] :) [02:59] hey, what problem is the res difference causing? [03:00] I just can't see the screen [03:00] The top [03:00] Just a little bit [03:00] what if you hit the auto configure on your monitor? [03:00] ? [03:01] every monitor i've seen lately has a setting to 'auto center' the screen [03:01] This computer is pretty old. :| [03:01] ok. is it a CRT? [03:02] old stuff is a great match for xubuntu or puppy linux or DSL [03:02] thanks to linux, old hardware always has value : ) [03:03] CRT? [03:05] cathode ray tube, the old monitor, not a flat panel [03:06] It's widescreen, it's PRETTY new, but not new enough to have an auto-center. [03:08] hey all [03:10] i have a linksys pcmcia card but no internet connection i dont see an network manger icon anywhere [03:11] * DIL this joint is jumpin [03:11] do you have a good wired connection? [03:16] DIL; install wicd from sourceforge [03:16] wicd works the best for network management, IMO [03:17] no unfortunately it is an old machine trying a rj45 pcmcia card now [03:17] you could probably download a .deb and put it on a flash drive or something. [03:17] what would i download? wicd [03:19] are you on xubuntu [03:19] this connection is ubuntu [03:20] itried a usb linksys rausbo and system freezes it does not see the other linksys card pcmcia [03:21] so i would need a solution for the bmc4318 drivers [03:23] sounds like ndiswrapper [03:23] i set that up a few years ago, not since. are you familiar with it [03:23] jmhealey: I'm back. [03:23] jmhealey: When I chose 1280 x 768 it stayed at a black screen. [03:24] [22:01] every monitor i've seen lately has a setting to 'auto center' the screen [03:24] Where is this setting? [03:24] yes but hated messing with it after a couple upgardes i had to reconfigure so went out and got a net gear card - i have this old computerr and dont want to throe away a $50.00 card [03:29] Gabe_G23: the 'auto center' if it has it is in a different place in the monitor menu for eveyr monitor i've seen, it seems [03:29] push some monitor buttons and see what happens [03:30] DIL how old it is [03:31] it is a gateway solo 9000 it looks like i have to get my googlefu on [03:44] yeah google knows all [03:45] DIL, have you tried puppy linux? I know a guy who swears by it for the oldies hardware [03:46] yea i think it runs on ram [03:46] i think i have a solution though thanks for your assitsance [03:48] ok [03:48] bye [06:13] anyone available? [06:13] at quarter past one? sheesh. [06:14] ;) [06:14] >_> [06:14] been fiddling with distros all day and i settled on xbu [06:14] i am having a slight problem though [06:15] i'd like to be able to mount my ntfs drives [06:16] so you really want to be using ntfs3g [06:16] (packagewise, it's "ntfs-3g") [06:17] i see [06:17] i found it odd that i could mount them on the live cd but no on the install is all. [06:18] thanks [06:20] do i have ton config the drives in anyway to make them mountable? I'd like to not break my xp install [06:20] ton=to [07:04] barroooooop [07:22] anybody installed opera 9.5 yet? [07:38] gello all [07:55] is anyone here? i'm crzy [07:58] good [08:10] helo [08:10] i heard if it rains, the internet can get wet and it slow packets down, is this true? [08:11] soggy packets? [08:39] it might be so, i've seen in especially when using wimax === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche === yogi_ is now known as yogi__ === yogi__ is now known as yogi_ [09:38] Hardy xubuntu seems quite nice but there doesn't seem to be any way to browse for samba shares from Thunar, or am I missing something? What do folks use, Linneighborhood? [09:40] GnuSense: I'm old fashioned, I know what I want to use over samba, and mount it sith smbfs. [09:42] I can do that, too, I certainly mount my normal server shares with fstab and can figure out how to mount with mount, but sometimes its nice to have a GUI, too. Is there a xfce equivalent to browsing with SSH like the fish:// stuff in KDE, etc.? [09:51] Also, it seems like a couple of hundred MB of open-office stuff are installed in xubuntu, which is odd, considering that OO itself is nowhere to be found. Will I hose my system if I whack that stuff? [09:56] hi [09:57] is it possible to install xubuntu without running the live CD? [09:57] You can use the alternate install CD, I believe, even install over a network. [10:03] One last request, I don't see any way to suspend or hibernate, any options with that? [11:24] Why not anyone in this channel? [11:28] applegate: Why would? === applegate is now known as linux_master [11:29] Hello there. Nice to meet you again. [11:30] nice to meet you too [11:31] Do you use any of Xubuntu series? Try that. It's very nice. [11:33] I will have to try it one day, thanks [11:34] Actually, it build to use with laptop. [11:36] Anyone use the reg ubuntu? [11:52] hello [11:52] Hello there [11:53] linux_master: why do u sugget to to ckeck this channel? [11:54] ah, plumber at least! [11:54] TuniX12: please check this channel, tehre's a leak in the boiler room [11:54] because this channel is "clear" [11:54] there're no such boiler in this channel [11:54] ah [11:55] better check the #kubuntu [11:57] ok === linux_master is now known as applegate === applegate is now known as moderator === moderator is now known as applegate [12:59] hello, I tried to install all necessery packages for dvdrip. cdrecord. cdrdao and, mkisofs are not included in the official repository of xubuntu. Instead of cdrecord wodim is used in Hardy. Could I use this cdrecord fork instead? Where do I get the other packages? Any alternatives? === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [13:01] clementis: wodim tries to be compatible with cdrecord. When I converted from cdre.. to wod.. I had to change my scripts in a few places. Not much trouble. [13:15] David-A: So I try to install wodim and hopeit is compatible with cdrecord. Where do I find cdrdao and mkisofs? [13:23] So I try to install wodim and hopeit is compatible with cdrecord. Where do I find cdrdao and mkisofs? [13:25] !info cdrdao [13:25] cdrdao (source: cdrdao): records CDs in Disk-At-Once (DAO) mode. In component main, is extra. Version 1:1.2.2-8ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 423 kB, installed size 1152 kB [13:28] clementis; in xubuntu 7.10 cdrdao and mkisofs seems to be in the repositories. Are they not there in 8.04? [13:51] anyone here using "getlibs" ? [13:51] for 64bit systems [14:57] hey how do I change the number of virtual desktops in xubuntu please? [14:58] Paladine, Applications->Settings->Workspaces settings [14:58] what applet does that launch (I am not using the default panel) [14:59] Paladine, not an applet, just an application to change the number of workspaces [14:59] Paladine, unless you're using Compiz? [14:59] yeah can you tell me the name of the binary [14:59] yes I am in compiz [14:59] Paladine, ah, then you'll want to edit Compiz' settings [14:59] and using awn panel [14:59] Have you installed the Compiz settings manager? [14:59] yup [14:59] Let me see what you had to edit then... [15:00] I got it thanks [15:00] Ah OK :) [15:00] under general>desktop size [15:00] Yep [15:02] just switch to xubuntu last night after using ubuntu for almost 3 years [15:02] seems quite nice so far [15:02] Good :) [15:19] http://www.paladine.org.uk/images/Screenshot.png <- much better :) [15:19] awn? [15:20] didn't it have some trouble with xfwm4? [15:20] seems to be working ok here, hasn't crashed yet [15:20] Not if Compiz is running ^.^ [15:20] there is a graphical anamology on the shutdown button when the dock updates (app opens or closes) which causes a white block to flash up but it is bearable [15:20] Paladine: it's not about crashing, it's about not being able to swicth between workspaces [15:21] workspace switching was fine [15:21] although I just reduced workspaces to 1 since I have 1920x1200 screen [15:21] but I did test the workspace switcher applet beofre I did that and it worked fine [15:22] I mean switching to an app on a different workspace with the icons [15:22] nevermind, if it works for you, it's great [15:22] I never tried that, but I was able to put focus onto the apps I had on this workspace by clicking on them in the switcher [15:22] vinnl: btw, awn doesn't require compiz on xubuntu [15:22] TheSheep, no, just a compositing manager, right? [15:23] vinnl: but xfwm4 does compositing, so it's ok [15:23] TheSheep, but he (or she? Paladine?) mentioned he/she was running Compiz :) [15:23] he :) [15:23] So the trouble with xfwm4 wouldn't apply :) [15:23] tehre is no gender on irc ;) [15:23] vinnl: true [15:24] Hehe, ok, "it mentioned it was running Compiz" :P [15:24] its a shame the awn mail applet only supports 1 mailbox [15:51] Hi [15:51] Hey [15:52] can someone tell me what output the following command gives on XFCE? python -c "import os; print os.environ['DESKTOP_SESSION']" [15:52] Sure, wait a sec [15:52] That sort of opens a new terminal window [15:53] Hmm, and I suppose "default" isn't it either? [15:54] RainCT: xfce4 [15:55] thanks === vinnl is now known as Spastacus [16:27] David-A: I'm back again! No, cdrdao and mkisofs are not in the repository of Hardy! === Spastacus is now known as Neger [16:28] clementis: sure they are [16:28] clementis: see the cdrdao and genisoimage packages, respectively [16:29] clementis: then I dont know... (Oh crims know...) === Neger is now known as Vinnl === Vinnl is now known as vinnl [16:35] hey, whats the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu? [16:35] crimsun: you're right! cdrdao is in the repository! But mkisofs and cdrecord arn't! [16:35] !xfce | jeezze [16:35] jeezze: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [16:36] clementis: yes they are, but don't look for those specific package names. mkisofs is in genisoimage; cdrecord is in wodim. [16:36] anyone in here know how to set up bittorrent all i get is a file that asks me to open metafile [16:37] shane_, which version of Xubuntu are you using? [16:37] clementis: the functionality is identical despite the differing package names in Ubuntu/Debian. [16:37] hardy 8.04 [16:37] shane_, do you have a .torrent file? [16:37] i dont think so [16:38] shane_, so what do you want to do with BitTorrent? [16:38] crimsun: thank you! I installed these packages. hope dvdrip works! I'm back later! su [16:38] is it not the pnp app [16:38] p2p [16:38] shane_, no, BitTorrent is a way of downloading large files, you download a single file which tells your computer how to get the rest [16:39] shane_, I suppose you used an application to find .torrent files before [16:39] shane_, which applications did you use previously to use BitTorrent? [16:39] yes i had ktorrent and limewire but im sick of the kiddie porn in lime and ktorrent isnt workin for me now [16:40] Right, limewire isn't BitTorrent [16:40] shane_, you're just looking for a p2p app? [16:40] yah a clean one [16:41] shane_, ehm, there's gtk-gnutella, there's Frostwire which is similar to Limewire [16:41] shane_, of course, I should add that you should not use it to download stuff you don't own :) [16:41] i tried frostwire and all i get was the icon nothin happened with it and i changed the file from dos and still nothin [16:42] shane_, how did you install it? [16:42] download from there site [16:43] it was the linux app and i also followed there instructions on how to fix because when they built the files they where on a win system and it was all in dos so i changed that [16:43] shane_, OK, then I suppose you can try gtk-gnutella [16:47] vinnl: i just put gtk on and it seems to work [16:47] shane_, cool :) [17:02] im trying to install xubuntu on a 500Mhz laptop with 512MB of ram, when i enter on Install Xubuntu it stops at 3% of loading kernel, how can i fix this? [17:03] JDLSpeedy, perhaps you could give the alternate installer a try [17:04] vinnl: i'll try that, thanks [17:04] yup, I think that with 500 Mhz best option is to install with alternate CD. You won't face any problems running Xubuntu later. [17:04] JDLSpeedy: did you give it a couple of minutes or did it stop for ever? [17:05] been at 3% for about 5 minutes now, so my guessing it stopped [17:07] JDLSpeedy: yea, if you are booting from disk. I know when booting from CD or installing there are steps that takes some minutes of seemless inactivity on my 933MHz. [17:15] anybody know if there's a dev packge for qt4.4 for ubuntu gutsy yet? [17:18] HI, my cd device is not auto-detected. If I insert a music cd nothing happens! Musicplayer: audacious [17:18] My fstab entry: [17:18] /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [17:18] Same with dvd! [17:33] clementis: when I put in a music cd it starts Totem. My fstab line: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [17:39] clementis: maybe it can be something in the setting menues, which i can not find right now, just a hunch [17:47] David-A: If I insert a data cd/dvd (auto) mounting is no problem. I have no hd* in /dev. I use scd0. If I try to mount a music cd with: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cd I'll get the following error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0 [17:48] clementis: music cd is not iso9660 [17:49] Totem says: Location not found [17:49] David-A: which fs has a music cd? [17:49] clementis: my /dev/hdc may be because i have an old computer with (parallel) ata cables. [17:51] clementis: i dont remember, i dont think it is seen as an fs at all. what if you google or wiki cdda? [17:55] David-A: you may be right with the fs, but normally music cd and movie dvd's start automatically. On my last ubuntu 6.06 installation it was like this. [18:04] clementis: yes thats normal. I can not find any obvious setting for it in settings or system>services. sorry. [18:08] David-A: Anyway, thank you! [19:34] please can u tell me how xubuntu handle proxy connection, i am connected using a proxy, and even when i change the setting for konqueror and xchat to use a direct connection it always default to proxy, i am not complain here, i just want to understand === stevie is now known as vorian [19:42] hi there:) [19:42] finaly here [19:43] i do have a little problem maybe one can help [19:44] i was triing to set up some users with restricted bash aka rbash, but ended up typing sudo rbash [19:44] so now i cant even log in beacause it says no permission to cd /home [19:44] the /ect/passwd lists me as a bash user [19:45] anyone idea? [19:50] ? [19:50] szemy: ctrl-D ? [19:50] but i cannot log in [19:50] you mean before that [19:50] ? [19:57] someone? [19:57] szemy: are you still in sudo rbash? it is not in a terminal window in a gui desktop but a consol login? [19:57] i tried to restart the computer [19:57] somehow it got stuck in rbash [19:58] did you arrive to a login screen? [19:59] yes [19:59] but it already fails to load some klog or whatever due to permissions... [20:01] ii can start it up in recovery mode or whatever its name is [20:02] or fail safe mode in the session menu in the login screen [20:02] yes that works [20:02] but what next? [20:03] did you change the shell for your normal login? you say /ect/passwd looks ok? [20:03] yes it does [20:05] can you see where the "sudo rbash" you typed ended up? was it in a settings gui or on the command line? [20:06] it was command line [20:07] as an argument to a command line settings command or directly at the command line prompt? [20:07] my desktop suddeny crashed and than i rebooted [20:07] in bash in a x session [20:08] if i understand youre question correctly [20:09] if you just typed sudo rbash at the command prompt it should not have any effect now when that shell process is no more. [20:09] the two pannels on the top and bottom crashed and the icons on my desktop displayed a red X, so i thought i~d better reboot it [20:10] well that is true [20:10] :) [20:11] maybe you did some other changes about the same time? [20:11] maybe when i set up user permission for the new users i messed up something [20:12] what tools did you use to change permissions? [20:12] i could try give / recursivly everyone permission to r w and execute [20:12] bash [20:13] "/ recursivly" thats sounds heavy. maybe could make things worse. lets backtrack in small steps. [20:14] ok [20:14] what command in bash did you use to change permissions for the new user? [20:14] chmod [20:14] ok. chmod what? [20:15] well... [20:15] chmod -R a dont remember [20:16] i know i changed my home directory so that everyone except me had no permissions whatsoever [20:16] or at least that was my intention [20:17] could it be chmod -R where some_directory was NOT /home/ ? [20:17] could be , but i dont think i was that! tired:) [20:18] so what if i removed all the permissions with the [20:19] = [20:19] flag [20:19] from my home directory [20:19] if you used "sudo chmod ..." or "sudo -s" and "chmod", then sudo says it logs the commands. maybe we can find the log and see what you did? [20:20] where are the logs? [20:20] i dont know yet. man sudo says syslog, which would be /var/log/syslog but i dont find my sudo commands in my syslog so i dont know. [20:23] there are only logs from the startup [20:23] i found an example of the problem: [20:24] maybe we can use bash command history. did you perform the chmod as your normal user or as root (via sudo or sudo -s)? [20:24] open /var/run/avahi-daemon//pid : Permission denied [20:25] i think chmod requires root [20:26] chmod can be used by a normal user to change files that the user owns. how did you use chmod? [20:26] sudo chmod [20:27] ok, try "history | grep chmod" (without the "quotes"), then you should see the command. [20:28] well thanks [20:28] what does it say? [20:28] i have to reboot couse i use livecd [20:28] no [20:29] ? [20:29] lets do this instead: [20:29] from a terminal in the live cd you can look at the history on the hard disk. [20:31] the hard disk has a name like /dev/hda2 or /dev/sda3 and may be mounted as /media/hda2 or /disk/sda3 or somthing. can you see anything like that on the desktop or when you issue a "mount" command (without arguments)? [20:31] the command you said returns 13 history ... [20:32] yes yes [20:32] i can access my hd [20:32] so whats it called? [20:32] i looked at the syslog but it only containes startup items [20:33] mnt/hda3 [20:35] (if you look at /var/log/syslog it is only events from the live cd session. if the chmod is in a syslog it is on a syslog on the harddisk. also history command in a live cd session has no history from when you chmod-ed when booted on the harddisk.) [20:35] (but we might find them on the harddisk) [20:36] can you do "cd /mnt/hda3/home/" ? [20:36] the syslog on the hd has only items from a bootup process [20:36] yes [20:37] in a root shell [20:37] does "grep chmod .bash_history" say anything? [20:38] nope [20:38] shize [20:40] maybe if you were root when you did chmod: do "cd /mnt/hda3/root" and "grep chmod .bash_history" ? [20:41] yes [20:41] man chmod [20:42] chmod -arR /home/szemy [20:42] man chmod [20:42] chmod a + r -R /home/szemy [20:42] interesting [20:43] chmod -R a + r /home/szemy [20:43] chmod -R a+r /home/szemy [20:43] last one: [20:44] chmod -R a=rwxX /home/ [20:45] the last ones are already me triing to repaire... [20:45] I am sure hundreds of chatters are peeking at our conversation and laufing. any suggestions? [20:45] :) [20:45] me newbe with root permissions>) [20:46] let me see the man page what capital X is doing... [20:46] something with folders if i remember right [20:50] well, you seem to have given everyone rather liberal permissions to yours and other users files. should not normally cause problems to login. just very exposed to bad users or bad user mode code. [20:50] that was my last chance to repaire things [20:51] could be group permissions? [20:52] what does the perm look like right now? "cd /mnt/hda3/home/szemy" and "ls -l" [20:52] rwxrwxrwx [20:53] or maybe "ls -al" and paste back a few representative examples [20:53] and for folders + d [20:54] so actually -rwxrwxrwx for normal files [20:54] -rwxrwxrwx 1 1000 1000 5136 May 19 05:42 hazi.pdf [20:55] I assume 1000 is the first non-root user, which should be szemy, then owner seems ok. [20:56] thats right [20:58] in syslog it even says faild to initialize dbus [20:59] i dont no what i did wrong but it seems to me that it was pretty severe [21:00] no, I can not imagine how this cause login problems, but you should restore permissions on your files for safety reasons. we dont know what the perm bits was before, so we may just remove "world" write access for now. ok? [21:01] ok [21:02] si [21:02] hi [21:02] can u give me some advice for a good music player in xubuntu ? [21:02] vlc [21:02] playes everything [21:05] to restore the last command as root after a normal boot: chmod -R o-w /home/ or from the live cd: chmod -R o-w /mnt/hda3/home/ (you may take notes if you want and do later it when you feel steady at hands) [21:05] q [21:05] i [21:05] hu [21:05] hi [21:05] q [21:06] szemy: get the cat off the keyboard [21:06] sorry [21:06] AkShell: I use xmms a lot, becaues i am familiar with it, and with winamp. it is not very modern now. especially about international character sets and such. [21:06] szemy: was it a cat? [21:07] yes [21:07] LOL [21:07] :-D [21:07] :) [21:07] VLC isnt very efficient as a playlist manager... [21:08] do you know where are the permissions for groups [21:08]