[00:02] <nuxil> you should be able to do that
[00:03] <feistel> hi
[00:03] <nuxil> @ _CrashMaster_
[00:03] <nuxil> hi
[00:03] <feistel> I need advice for install new Kubuntu 8.04
[00:03] <feistel> I have problem with HARDISK DETECTION
[00:03] <nosrednaekim> its not seeing your hard drive?
[00:03] <_CrashMaster_> nuxil: Every machine on the network (except the Kubuntu box) can see and access the share
[00:03] <feistel> I have 2 disk: 1 SATA disk and 1 PATA (IDE) disk
[00:04] <nuxil> _CrashMaster_, look up smbfs
[00:04] <feistel> I wish to install in my PATA (IDE) disk
[00:04] <feistel> but the kubuntu installer only see a SATA DISK
[00:04] <nosrednaekim> feistel: did you go into manual partitioning?
[00:04] <_CrashMaster_> !smbfs
[00:04] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[00:05] <feistel> and I have a PATA DISKworking with a previous KUBUNTU edition
[00:05] <feistel> nosrednaekim: when I go to MANUAL
[00:05] <feistel> I see no partitions
[00:05] <nosrednaekim> no discs either?
[00:05] <feistel> nosrednaekim : only the SATA disk partitions is showed
[00:06] <nosrednaekim> note that PATA discs might be refered to as sd* these days
[00:06] <nuxil> _CrashMaster something like this, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=mywinname, password=mywinpass  IP/share_name   /mymount_folder
[00:06] <feistel> nosrednaekim : yes, but then I disconnect the SATA disk , leaving connected the PATA disk
[00:06] <_Angelus_> guys how do i configure the default display manager?
[00:07] <feistel> nosrednaekim: then run the installer and no partitions is showed
[00:07] <_Angelus_> i installed kde4 and i chose kdm-kde4 as default , now i want to make kdm the default
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> feistel: might be something screwey in the BIOS
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> BBL guys
[00:07] <Daisuke_Ido> _Angelus_: sudo dpkg nosrednaekim beat me to it
[00:07] <nuxil> _CrashMaster_, in konqueror. try type this. smb://ip-of-vista   if your konqueror got smb support
[00:08] <feistel> nosrednaekim : hi have in my PATA disk a working KUBUNTU 6
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: apt: nosrednaekim, option not found :P
[00:08] <feistel> nosrednaekim: KUBUNTU 6 see SATA and PATA disk
[00:08] <oscar> HELLO
[00:08] <feistel> nosrednaekim: KUBUNTU 8 only see SATA Disk
[00:08] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[00:08] <Daisuke_Ido> feistel: no need for CAPS, they aren't NECESSARY
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and all disks are seen as sd* now
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> the disks are still there and still recognized, just not called hd* anymore
[00:09] <oscar> one little quastion, does anyone have a laptop with a ati mobility radeon 7500 and could run Desktop Effects ?
[00:10] <oscar> olaa
[00:10] <oscar> hola?
[00:10] <oscar> alguien me puede ayudaar? // can someone help mee?
[00:11] <_CrashMaster_> ok, thats wierd. None of my SMB enabled browsers would can see the Vista box unless I ping it first
[00:11] <_CrashMaster_> !sp | oscar
[00:11] <_CrashMaster_> !es | oscar
[00:11] <_CrashMaster_> there we go
[00:11] <oscar> !sp
[00:11] <nuxil> _CrashMaster_, Yeah that shounds weird
[00:18] <F-u-z-z-Y> Hi there, I am having trouble running evolution mail when connected to a wireless network. When i say trouble i mean it is very very slow to load making it impossible to do anything. When i disable the wireless network connectiong using the switch on the front of the laptop, it runs fine. Can someone please help me fix this? how do i update the wireless drivers? etc? P.S. i have tried reinstalling evolution mail. thanks
[00:19] <nuxil> i wounder why konqueror wount connect to any network.. localhost or remotehosts
[00:21] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, what Bit Rate is your wifi card set to ?
[00:21] <nuxil> iwconfig
[00:22] <F-u-z-z-Y> 54Mb/s
[00:22] <nuxil> that should be fine.. also check noise
[00:22] <feistel> Daisuke_Ido
[00:23] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: 79dBm
[00:23] <nonewmsgs> if i want to run a command upon bootup, i have to modify a text file in /etc/init.d but which one??
[00:23] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, -79 or 79
[00:23] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: sorry, -79dBm
[00:24] <nuxil> ok that looks fine too,,
[00:24] <nuxil> what card is it?
[00:24] <jdnewmil> I have been having difficulty upgrading from gutsy to hardy... help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/20456/
[00:25] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y its usaly listed ub nickname in iwconfig
[00:25] <nuxil> *ub/in
[00:25] <nonewmsgs> *OR* is there a way in fstab to mount an image with a -o loop parameter?
[00:26] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: te nickname is blank, if i remember correctly in windows it said it was a broadcom A/B/G. something like that
[00:26] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: i can find out if you give me a sec
[00:26] <nuxil> ah.. lsmod and see if it uses b43 or b43xx or bcm43xx module
[00:27] <nuxil> you might be missing firmwares to your card.
[00:29] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: what am i looking for in this list? I have B44, size, 28432, Used by 0
[00:30] <nuxil> ok.. you should get the firmwares
[00:30] <F-u-z-z-Y> ok  how?  where?
[00:31] <nuxil> hp ?
[00:31] <F-u-z-z-Y> it's an acer laptop, acer apire 5633
[00:32] <nuxil> there is a tool for this.. 1 sec and i 'll see whats it was called
[00:33] <nuxil> no sorry.. it was only for 43.. b43-fwcutter is it called.
[00:33] <nuxil> dont know if there a tool like that for the 44 chipset
[00:34] <F-u-z-z-Y> right ok, so what can i try now?
[00:37] <nuxil> http://matrix007.6te.net/bcm4400-2.0.2.tar.gz
[00:37] <mr---t-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/154959 you might want to look at this
[00:38] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, compile it and replace it with your current b44 module
[00:40] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: How do i compile it? I'm reading the readme.txt and it says rpm -ivh bcm4400-<version>.src.rpm  But what version am i using?
[00:40] <mr---t-> nuxil:  take a look at the link above and see if it applies please
[00:44] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, loot at Building Driver From TAR File
[00:44] <nuxil> *llot/look
[00:44] <liza> hi anybody can help me how to download through my SD? im using amarok
[00:44] <nuxil> mr---t-, i check it out
[00:44] <mr---t-> ok thanks
[00:45] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: what should i replace <version> with??
[00:48] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, o.0
[00:48] <nuxil> -2.0.2
[00:48] <nuxil> tar xvzf bcm4400-2.0.2.tar.gz
[00:49] <F-u-z-z-Y> ok, thanks, brb i'll do it
[00:52] <doorknob60> does anyone here think KDE 4.1 beta is stable enough to use yet? last time i used kde 4 in feburary it sucked but i wanna try again
[00:52] <nuxil> imo you should wait
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> doorknob60: wait about a month
[00:53] <doorknob60> okay
[00:53] <doorknob60> im perfectly happy with 3.5.9 so i can wai
[00:53] <doorknob60> wait
[00:56] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: I'm getting the following error when i run insmod bcm4400.o in step 3
[00:56] <F-u-z-z-Y> insmod: can't read 'bcm4400.o': No such file or directory
[01:00] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, did you compile the module without errors ?
[01:01] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, running make produced no error ?
[01:01] <nuxil> check if you are in the correct dir.
[01:01] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: yes, it produced errors
[01:01] <nuxil> bummer
[01:05] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: so what now?
[01:06] <nuxil> theres another driver
[01:07] <nuxil> F-u-z-z-Y, http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/4401.php
[01:08] <_CrashMaster_> I assume that Linux doesn't like it when my Windows shares have spaces in the name?
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> _CrashMaster_: that certainly doesn't make it any easier
[01:09] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: so what now?
[01:09] <F-u-z-z-Y> oops
[01:09] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: i persum im click Linux (i386) ?
[01:09] <F-u-z-z-Y> *clicking
[01:09] <nuxil> yea
[01:10] <_CrashMaster_> Well, I'll be damned if Im going to run around chaging all my shares. I guess this machine just won't get to access them.
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> _CrashMaster_: try enclosing the name of th share in quotes in your commands/files .... that might fix the space problem
[01:11] <nuxil> _CrashMaster_, are the shares user and password protected ?
[01:11] <_CrashMaster_> nosrednaekim: I shall try that.
[01:11] <_CrashMaster_> nuxil: They aren't SUPPOSED to be, but Kubuntu is constantly bugging me for credentials.
[01:12] <nuxil> weird
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> _CrashMaster_,  i use the smbfuse tool to get to my windows shares. it seems to not mind the spaces. :) but Yes.. i DO NOT use spaces in the hare names on any of my machines.
[01:12] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: follow Building driver from TAR file, yes?
[01:13] <nuxil> ys
[01:13] <nuxil> might need to use \ in spaces ,, not sure about that thou
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> i never did figure out how to mount a share with spaces in the name, from fstab
[01:15] <nuxil> if quotes dont work try something like 192.162.0.1:/this\ is\ my\ share
[01:17] <F-u-z-z-Y> nuxil: see PM
[01:19] <tashiro> can some 1 tell me how to do a dhcp query via command line?
[01:20] <doorknob60> sudo dhclient
[01:20] <tashiro> thanks a lot, appreciated
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> sudo dhclient devicename
[01:20] <doorknob60> im very familiar with tha command *shudders*
[01:22] <diceman> hello all
[01:23] <diceman> f
[01:30] <doorknob60> it got quiet...
[01:32] <nuxil> it sure has
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> its late night in europe and most of the English-speaking world
[01:33] <doorknob60> only 5:34 here in oregon
[01:33] <doorknob60> pm
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> and dinner time in the US :)
[01:33] <nuxil> its 2:30 am here
[01:33] <mr---t-> only  830 here
[01:33] <doorknob60> good point, im starting to get hungry
[01:34] <nuxil> food.. mmmm
[01:34] <bobleny> Hi, i'm tring to install KDE 4.0.5, useing this guide... http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Building_KDE_for_development_or_stable_use , and the "cs" command doesn't work. I don't know if this is even needed....
[01:34] <azzco> "No module named xml.sax.drivers2" How would I go about getting this module?
[01:34] <azzco> bobleny: #kubuntu-kde4 pherhaps?
[01:34] <doorknob60> bobleny: sudp aptitude install kubuntu-kde4-desktop?
[01:34] <nuxil> azzco, google that module and see what comes up
[01:34] <doorknob60> oh u beat me
[01:35] <doorknob60> wait nvm
[01:38] <doorknob60> :O i just realized everything i say on here is on irclogs.ubuntu.com lol
[01:38] <doorknob60> thats sweet :D
[01:39] <nuxil> heh. dont say anything dumb :P
[01:40] <doorknob60> :P
[01:40] <azzco> nuxil: Got a ton more hits removing module not found and ubuntu from search terms but.. it's hard to sort out anything now =/
[01:43] <nuxil> your talking about the python module right ?
[01:46] <azzco> nuxil: drv_pyexpat yes but the makefile only gives xml.sax.drivers2 as feedback :s
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> sax? isn't that the suse X config app?
[01:49] <azzco> SaX maybe?
[01:50] <Ambient> btw, is there anyone really maintaining d3lphin?
[01:50] <Ambient> seems like it has been dead for a year now
[01:50] <Ambient> *half a year*
[01:50] <Jucato> Ambient: no one
[01:50] <Ambient> thanks
[01:51] <Ambient> just that it's default file manager for kubuntu and i've already found out 3 different bugs in a day =)
[01:52] <Ambient> meh, maybe i'll patch them myself if i find the time
[01:53] <azzco> nuxil: Was there anything special about the python module? All I can think of is installing python-xml...
[01:53] <nuxil> same here
[01:53] <nuxil> dont you got it =
[01:53] <nuxil> ?
[01:54] <azzco> Yupp...
[01:55] <azzco> I see a pyexpat.so installed from that package so it should be right
[01:55] <azzco> Must be a path thing then
[01:55] <nuxil> check your pythonpath
[01:56] <nuxil> but.. it still sounds strange
[01:56] <azzco> How do I check python path?
[01:57] <azzco> echo $PYTHONPATH?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> if thats how its set... :) that should show it..
[01:59] <nuxil> its empty
[01:59] <azzco> Same here
[01:59] <azzco> No wonder then..
[02:00] <nuxil> you can set it with export
[02:00] <nuxil> export PYTHONPATH=/bla bla bla
[02:00] <azzco> Ahh something I've done before :)
[02:01] <azzco> Thanks guys that worked like a charm (need to fix amanith but that's another probelm ;))
[02:02] <nuxil> i need to seep. its 3 am
[02:02] <nuxil> good bye
[02:04] <BB_Laptop> howdy
[02:05] <nonewmsgs> i have a cd with one long track instead of multiple tracks.  what is the best way to split it (obviously no compression until the end)
[02:06] <BB_Laptop> i am a Noob to linux i install your distro with the KDE desktop i am not able to find where i plug in the wep for my wireless network the drivers are installed and in use
[02:07] <F-u-z-z-Y> i'm looking for some help following some steps for installing a Intel wireless driver
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> BB_Laptop: try connecting to the wireless network and it should prompt you for the key
[02:14] <asobi> how do i recover my ipod playlist in amarok?
[02:18] <feistel> hi
[02:18] <feistel> I need help with "hardy"
[02:18] <feistel> the installer dont detect my pata disk
[02:19] <azzco> http://pastebin.com/d78efbdbf What happens after line 27?
[02:19] <feistel> but, that harddisk work fine with dapper
[02:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> azzco: you know line 27 actually extends to line 34, i assume
[02:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> the \ at the end of the line escapes the newline character, meaning everthing up through "dist" is part of that same command
[02:26] <azzco> Daisuke_Laptop: I kind of assumed that. but does it mean that those files are copied to dist?
[02:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> right
[02:26] <azzco> But what is dist? o.O
[02:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd src; $(PYTHON) setup.py install_data --install-dir ../dist ; cd ..
[02:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> that creates dist as a directory as part of the python setup script
[02:28]  * azzco didn't understand
[02:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was one of the lines in the script
[02:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> creates dist, then later copies files into it
[02:29] <azzco> Ahh there
[02:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> go up one directory, then dist should be there
[02:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> there :D
[02:29] <azzco> There it is :)
[02:29] <azzco> But why would I need root for making files in there? o.O It's in home
[02:32] <nohelphere> is there a soudn troubleshooting guide?
[02:32] <nohelphere> sound*
[02:32] <nohelphere> SINC EMY SOUND STOPPED WORKING...AGAIN
[02:32] <nohelphere> and my keyboard need sfixed
[02:32] <WaaQ> hi
[02:32] <nohelphere> same with ym router
[02:32] <nohelphere> but
[02:32] <nohelphere> mostly
[02:33] <nohelphere> where is the sound troubleshooting guide?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[02:33] <WaaQ> all my "non system disks" refuse to mount with the error: mount: /dev/sda11 already mounted or /opt/disks/media/3 busy
[02:33] <WaaQ> anyone know why ?
[02:33] <nohelphere> it happene dbefore
[02:34] <anaccarato> hello
[02:34] <tekteen> hi
[02:34] <anaccarato> I'm newbie of linux
[02:35] <lakis1982> hi ... i have kubuntu kde 3.5.9 and i cannot add any desktops .. why ?
[02:36] <anaccarato> and I'm trying to connect to web with conqueror but it's impossible
[02:36] <anaccarato> why?
[02:36] <anaccarato> someone can help me?
[02:36] <lakis1982> hello ?
[02:37] <azzco> lakis1982: what do you mean by adding desktops?
[02:37] <azzco> anaccarato: konqueror you mean ;) and no it's not impossible, are you using a wired or a wireless connection?
[02:38] <anaccarato> I have a connect card umts
[02:38] <anaccarato> in this moment i can speak with you but I can't visit web pages with konqueror
[02:39] <azzco> anaccarato: same computer? o.O
[02:39] <anaccarato> yes
[02:39] <azzco> anaccarato: Press alt+f2 type "konsole"
[02:40] <azzco> Just thought you might want firefox..
[02:40] <anaccarato> this is the message that I see on my monitor "An error occurred while loading http://www........."
[02:40] <lakis1982> i mean that i go in the configure desktops and there it says you can add many desktops .  understand ?
[02:40] <azzco> lakis1982: virtual desktops I take it ;)
[02:40] <lakis1982> so i give to have four desktops but it doesnt add any
[02:40] <azzco> lakis1982: did you increase number of desktops?
[02:40] <lakis1982> yes
[02:40] <anaccarato> "Could not connect to host http://www...."
[02:41] <azzco> lakis I think you might want to add a applet on your kicker (the bar that is on the lower corner of your screen I guess)
[02:41] <anaccarato> Is a DNS problem?
[02:42] <azzco> lakis1982: you can switch desktops with Ctrl+F1 through F4
[02:42] <lakis1982> i have the applet in my kicker
[02:42] <azzco> lakis1982: ctrl+d2 doesn't work? (default bind)
[02:43] <azzco> anaccarato: Maybe try with another browser?
[02:43] <lakis1982> when i press ctrl f2 it changes desktop
[02:44] <anaccarato> ok how can I download another browser without a browser?
[02:44] <anaccarato> sudo apt-get ....
[02:44] <anaccarato> what?
[02:44] <azzco> anaccarato: kmenu add/remove programs search for firefox
[02:44] <anaccarato> thanks
[02:45] <azzco> Or you could do it from a kosnole like you just described
[02:45] <azzco> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:45] <lakis1982> whats the command that restarts the kde ?
[02:45] <anaccarato> thank you very much
[02:45] <anaccarato> azzco
[02:45] <azzco> no problem anaccarato ;)
[02:46] <azzco> lakis1982: you can restart your whole xserver with ctrl+alt+backspace. well it kills the xserver and another pops up automagicly
[02:46] <azzco> lakis1982: else I think it's kdm --stop or something
[02:46] <lakis1982> listen i found something
[02:47] <lakis1982> when i select the option no effects in the desktops effects then i can add desktops normally ... but when i select the option custom effects then no desktops can added
[02:47] <lakis1982> so whats going on ?
[02:48] <azzco> lakis1982: compiz and kdm handles virtual desktops differently
[02:49] <azzco> The normal virtual desktop 2 is not the same one as desktop 2 with compiz on (unless I'm utterly wrong)
[02:53] <lakis1982> so is there a way to increase desktops through the compiz settings manager ?
[02:53] <doorknob60> im mad, i just found out my new mohterboard doesnt support any 8 series nvidia cards for some reason
[02:53] <doorknob60> good thing i found that out before i bought one...
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> thats a weird limitation..
[02:55] <doorknob60> yeah, probably due to the built in ati card
[02:55] <doorknob60> i found it out from three people on newegg reviews
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Heh. with a built in ati card.. i would of avoided the MB to begin with
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:56] <doorknob60> :P well i was planning on buying an nvidia to go in the pci-e so i didnt think itd be a problem
[02:57] <doorknob60> and its a decent card consideringthat its integrated
[02:58] <diceman> i want to some  help about update
[02:59] <diceman> someone can help me ?
[02:59] <doorknob60> ok
[02:59] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> has anyone in here had success with wine/ventrilo in kubuntu 8.04?
[02:59] <doorknob60> i got it working in ubuntu gusty a while back, it was buggy though
[02:59] <diceman> doorknob60: about security updates
[03:00] <doorknob60> okay, what do you need help with?
[03:00] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> damn, I am killin myself trying to get it running. I have vent working and my mic working but noone can hear me :/
[03:00] <BB_Laptop> is there a place to upgrade Kubuntu like dirty word (windows update)
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> BB_Laptop- Adept can handle all package and version upgrades
[03:01] <doorknob60> adept updater?
[03:01] <diceman> yes
[03:01] <iCEifer> anyone know where I can get a list of all the packages that are on the 8.04 desktop CD?
[03:01] <diceman> secrutiy
[03:01] <diceman> security
[03:01] <diceman> USN something
[03:01] <iCEifer> BB_Laptop, use the adept package manger and fetch all updates
[03:02] <doorknob60> diceman: i dont really get what your asking
[03:03] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> diceman: you can find updates in adept package manager, click fetch updates and if there any updates for you adept updater will appear in your tasdk bar
[03:03] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> usually you dont even have to force it, it will tell you some are available
[03:04] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> I wish my problem was as easily solved ;*(
[03:04] <diceman> kubuntu hardy heron this USN-612-10
[03:05] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> wine seems to be full of liars and braggarts :P
[03:05] <iCEifer> anyone? is there a package listing for the CD?
[03:05] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> the forums about wine anyway
[03:06] <_0tt0v0nc4t_> iCEifer: look in adept package manager
[03:07] <diceman> there is a first vulnerability in kubuntu hardy heron
[03:07] <diceman> what can i solve it
[03:08] <lakis1982> hii .  i try to save in menu editor a change i make just to move system settings to a different submenu and it gives me an error ....Menu changes could not be saved because of the following problemCould not write to /home/lakis1982/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu:
[03:09] <lakis1982> can someone help ?
[03:10] <diceman> lakis1982: everybody sleep now come back late
[03:10] <diceman> good night
[03:17] <azzco> Got a new error
[03:18] <azzco> Any ideas "Unable to find an implementation for the 'linux2' ('posix') platform"?
[03:23] <rav> hello. I just installed firefox 3, and when I click the icon nothing happens, though I can see the process on the process table. Is it a bug?
[03:25] <rav> Actually, the window just popped up. 3 minutes after I started the program
[03:29] <lordcarlos> hi all
[03:29] <lordcarlos> hi
[03:29] <lordcarlos> hi
[03:29] <tea-too> !hello
[04:33] <LinuxWorld> anyone?
[04:34] <LinuxWorld> anyone has a clue how to restore the update icon in the taskbar...somehow it doesnt show up anymore
[04:34] <tea-too> im someome
[04:36] <Jucato> LinuxWorld: press Ctrl+Esc and see if adept_notifier is running. the update icon is not supposed to show up unless there are updates available
[04:37] <LinuxWorld> no its not running..and the icon always showed up if no updates are avail. , then in anoter colour
[04:38] <LinuxWorld> when there are iupdates it turns green..but now it disappeared
[04:38] <joereth> hello all
[04:38] <mike-kubuntu> ok i have a extremely annoying problem with dolphin
[04:39] <mike-kubuntu> it gives me an error every second when i go to a foldier that has a webpage in it saying
[04:39] <LinuxWorld> mike maybe the same as me..when u select a file or try  to open it an error message popos up
[04:39] <LinuxWorld> right? :)
[04:39] <LinuxWorld> was very strange here...even after a fresh install.
[04:39] <mike-kubuntu> The desktop entry file
[04:39] <mike-kubuntu> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[04:39] <mike-kubuntu> has an invalid menu entry
[04:39] <mike-kubuntu> addAsPodcast.
[04:39] <mike-kubuntu> shoot, sorry, i know about !paste
[04:39] <LinuxWorld> mike: i had the same. i deinstalled dolphin and use konqueror as file browser. now its ok. seems like a bug in dolphin.
[04:40] <mike-kubuntu> forgot about it with that post
[04:40] <mike-kubuntu> wierd, i wonder if i just delete that menu entry
[04:41] <mike-kubuntu> linuxWorld: deleting that helped
[04:41] <avishek> could anyone please advise on how to perform regular updates on a machine that is not connected to the internet?
[04:41] <LinuxWorld> same here... i idnt want to spend time in investigating the issue. so i just deinstalled it
[04:41] <LinuxWorld> konqueror works fine.
[04:43] <LinuxWorld> if i just could restore the adept update icon in the taskbar...
[04:43] <LinuxWorld> well who cares..its not a critical problem...
[04:43] <Jucato> LinuxWorld: run "adept_notifier"
[04:44] <LinuxWorld> i will try..
[04:44] <LinuxWorld> command not found..
[04:45] <LinuxWorld> ah
[04:45] <LinuxWorld> sorry
[04:45] <LinuxWorld> typed it wrongly
[04:45] <LinuxWorld> haha its back
[04:45] <LinuxWorld> crazy, thanks jucato
[04:46] <Jucato> you're welcome
[04:47] <avishek> !offline install
[04:47] <avishek> !install
[04:49] <tea-too> !update
[04:49] <LinuxWorld> i would like to have the Mint Linux Menu for kubuntu..is there a way to get it?
[04:50] <doorknob60> never used linux mint, whats the menu like?
[04:50] <LinuxWorld> its gnome
[04:50] <LinuxWorld> very nice design..based on ubuntu
[04:50] <LinuxWorld> a menu like that would be very nice for KDE
[04:51] <LinuxWorld> but obviously its not available...i dont know about kde 4..havent check it
[04:56] <avishek> !package install
[04:56] <avishek> !package
[04:56] <avishek> !dpkg
[04:57] <avishek> !deb
[04:57] <avishek> !gdebo
[04:57] <LinuxWorld> !crossover
[04:57] <avishek> !gdebi
[04:58] <lat> If I install libgnome2-perl is that going to mess up KDE4?
[04:58] <avishek> !gdebi
[05:02] <lat> What is the best backup software for backing up to a hard drive?
[05:02] <fignew> lat: there is no best
[05:02] <fignew> lat: it depends on what you need
[05:05] <lat> fignew, I need a mature, well-tested package that is most likely to be able to restore my data.
[05:05] <fignew> lat: gui, simplicity, speed?
[05:07] <lat> fignew, those attributes would all be nice, but the safety of my data is the first priority.
[05:09] <lat> I'm not against using the command console.
[05:10] <fignew> lat do you want an archive?
[05:10] <fignew> so... you can go back to a certain backup?
[05:13] <lat> fignew, yes. I need to be able to restore individual files, or (if needed) the whole hard drive. The backup must work even if some of the hardware changes.
[05:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> lat: tar
[05:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's your solution
[05:19] <lat> Daisuke_Laptop, thanks. I'll check out tar.
[05:19] <LinuxWorld> what about "Keep" for gods sake
[05:19] <LinuxWorld> its a standard tool in every kde distro
[05:19] <LinuxWorld> or almost everyone as i know
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> LinuxWorld: mature and well-tested, i think tar trumps keep in that instance
[05:21] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Laptop- cp trumps tar
[05:21] <dwidmann> with regards to the hardware changyness, it will adapt to that as well as a normal, non-backup installation, lat
[05:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dragnslcr: definitely
[05:22] <lat> dwidmann, by "it" do you mean tar?
[05:23] <dwidmann> lat: sure
[05:23] <dwidmann> at least it should ...
[05:23] <dwidmann> I use a somewhat less robust backup solution .... dd.
[05:25] <sancho21> Sorry, I was disconnected. I'm back again
[05:26] <jaakkome> hum, I'd want to write a simple program for KDE. Where should I look first for tutorials / instructions?
[05:26] <NickPresta> jaakkome, which language are you going to be using?
[05:26] <dwidmann> jaakkome: techbase.kde.org
[05:27] <jaakkome> I'm not sure yet, although I've only used C-variant things and scripting languages before
[05:27] <jaakkome> oh and C-64 basic
[05:27] <dwidmann> jaakkome: python, ruby, and c++ are probably the better choices floating around.
[05:28] <NickPresta> Python and PyQT is fun.
[05:28] <jaakkome> I've seen some python stuff and it looks... elegant / interesting
[05:29] <lat> I've been using Norton Ghost, but my motherboard died, and had to be replaced with another brand. According to Norton tech support my backup is therefore useless.
[05:29] <dwidmann> jaakkome: that's because it is
[05:29] <dwidmann> jaakkome: you should have been around a couple hours ago in #kubuntu-devel
[05:29] <dwidmann> I wonder if they have the log up yet
[05:29] <NickPresta> dwidmann, tomorrow, hopefully
[05:29] <jaakkome> what was going on there?
[05:30] <dwidmann> NickPresta: they had 2 of them up last time I checked
[05:30] <dwidmann> kubuntu tutorial day
[05:30] <NickPresta> dwidmann, oh, excellent :)
[05:30] <jaakkome> aa, goody
[05:30] <dwidmann> and Riddell did PyKDE4
[05:31] <dwidmann> **erm, scratch that, PyQT4
[05:31] <dwidmann> Hmm, looks like I could just dig the log out and pastebin it or something I guess
[05:37] <dwidmann> jaakkome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20528/
[05:40] <dwidmann> I'm going to pastebin the others and link to them as well, from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[05:44] <jaakkome> heh, that looked like fun
[05:46] <dwidmann> I was entertained enough to stick around for several hours, so it must have been
[06:03] <lincoln> what multimedia format does amrok can play?
[06:03] <dwidmann> Well, all of the logs are up, if anyones interested
[06:03] <NickPresta> lincoln, almost any audio format you can throw at it
[06:04] <dwidmann> lincoln: probably anything xine can play
[06:04] <dwidmann> so long as support is compiled in
[06:04] <lincoln> i'm trying to play even mp3, amarok won't play it.
[06:04] <dwidmann> namely because support for that isn't compiled in by default in kubuntu, install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[06:05] <lincoln> from the cd?
[06:05] <dwidmann> no, from the multiverse repository
[06:05] <lincoln> where?
[06:05] <dwidmann> or more specifically, you should only need libxine-ffmpeg
[06:05] <dwidmann> lincoln: use adept
[06:06] <lincoln> and select what?
[06:06] <dwidmann> lincoln: start typing libxine... in the filter bar, when you see libxine-ffmpeg double click it
[06:07] <lincoln> does it need a kubuntu cd?
[06:07] <dwidmann> No.
[06:07] <lincoln> it's already installed
[06:08] <dwidmann> !packages | lincoln
[06:08] <dwidmann> !repositories | lincoln
[06:08] <lincoln> k
[06:08] <dwidmann> try installing liblame0
[06:09] <lincoln> for what?
[06:09] <dwidmann> Well, you said you wanted amarok to have mp3 support, and you say libxine-ffmpeg is already installed, so that's the next logical option, seeing as it's the only other xine related package referenced by kubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:10] <lincoln> oh, sorry for that.
[06:10] <dwidmann> don't lose sight of your goal :P
[06:10] <lincoln> for other formats?
[06:11] <dwidmann> lincoln: quick question, will it play ogg files?
[06:11] <lincoln> yes, i think
[06:12] <dwidmann> yes, or you think?
[06:12] <lincoln> because ubuntu log in song in ogg
[06:13] <dwidmann> that has nothing to do with amarok playing ogg files though ...
[06:14] <dwidmann> you probably have various system sounds in /usr/share/sounds, try playing some in amarok
[06:14] <lincoln> ok, thanks for the help. for another question, i'll be here to share.
[06:16] <dwidmann> oh, and try moving the ~/.xine folder ... I've seen it cause some trouble before. (and don't forget, after each change you try, you'll need to restart amarok to get any effect out of it)
[06:16] <lincoln> to where?
[06:17] <dwidmann> anywhere but where it's at
[06:17] <dwidmann> /dev/null is also acceptable :)
[06:19] <lincoln> there's no /null in my dev folder.
[06:20] <NickPresta> lincoln, /dev/null
[06:20] <NickPresta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/null
[06:20] <lincoln> let me check
[06:22] <ivan_> hi, can someone please tell me how can i configure applications so they start when kubuntu starts? for instance start kopete when i start my kubuntu
[06:22] <NickPresta> !autostart | ivan_
[06:22] <lincoln> oh, there's. i don't see that before.
[06:24] <lincoln> does anyone know the mac channel?
[06:26] <ivan_> ok another question when i first installed kubuntu the first thing i did was enable the desktop effectes, but it sent me to the boot menu, i wrote my password and it seemed it started correctly but suddendly it sent me back to the boot menu, it did it all the time, i reinstalled kubuntu and i have fear that it does the same, what can i do??
[06:27] <lincoln> sugeng01 why are you kepping left an join this channel?
[06:28] <lincoln> *keeping
[06:29] <ivan_> anyone??
[06:30] <lincoln> ivan what's your problem?
[06:31] <ivan_> when i enable desktop effects it thorughs me back to the boot menu all the time, what can i do so this can stop, i had to reinstall kubuntu (kde 4
[06:32] <lincoln> what os that best for server beside ubuntu server 2008?
[06:33] <lincoln> ivan, maybe your graphic card doesn't support dekstp effect.
[06:33] <Jucato> ivan_: my only guess is that your computer, or rather your setup can't handle Desktop Effects. if this is on Kubuntu KDE 3, please ask in #compiz-fusion how to revert back to KWin as the window decoration
[06:34] <lincoln> maybe that help you. because i'm using kde3
[06:35] <ivan_> Jucato, ive had compiz in ubuntu 7.04 7.10 and 8.04 why cant i use it on ubuntu??
[06:35] <lincoln> who know the mac channel?
[06:35] <lincoln> Apple?
[06:35] <Jucato> ivan_: dunno really. never used it
[06:36] <Jucato> lincoln: try searching in Google
[06:36] <lincoln> k
[06:38] <calcmandan> anyone know the newsgroup reader that plugs into kontact?
[06:38] <lincoln> what newsgroup?
[06:39] <calcmandan> any newsgroup.  i want to connect to the newsgroup server my ISP provides.  i used to have a reader that plugged into kontact, but I've forgotten which package it was.
[06:39] <lincoln> like rss?
[06:39] <calcmandan> no like...  alt.smokers.cigars
[06:40] <lincoln> let me open that.
[06:40] <lincoln> that's a url address?
[06:41] <calcmandan> no it's a newsgoup.
[06:41] <calcmandan> I just want a newsgroup reader that plugs into kontact.  i had one before when i ran 6.06.
[06:41] <calcmandan> klibido is an example, but it's a standalone app.
[06:42] <lincoln> open Kontact, klik toolbar Feeds, select Add Feed
[06:43] <calcmandan> Yeah I already have my rss feeds.
[06:43] <cameron_> can anyone spare a couple minutes? i'm trying to install xen and adept is telling me that ubuntu-xen-desktop will break packages
[06:43] <lincoln> really, calcmandan?
[06:43] <NickPresta> cameron_, which packages?
[06:44] <cameron_> ubuntu-xen-desktop
[06:44] <cameron_> o, which will it break? it doesnt say
[06:45] <NickPresta> cameron_, do you have aptitude installed? I don't remember if it comes default with Kubuntu. (you can just type 'aptitude -h' at the command line)
[06:45] <calcmandan> lincoln: yes, I have a large list of rss feeds. but that's a different thing than a newsgroup server. i want to subscribe to a few newsgroups and post articles and get reacquainted with some old online friends.
[06:45] <Jucato> calcmandan: knode?
[06:45] <calcmandan> THAT"S IT
[06:45] <calcmandan> thanks!
[06:45] <cameron_> NickPresta, yes
[06:45] <lincoln> maybe you should ask your isp.
[06:46] <calcmandan> Jucato: thanks bro. that's it
[06:46] <Jucato> ^_^
[06:46] <NickPresta> cameron_, try installing the package via aptitude (instead of apt-get) and see which packages are conflicting
[06:46] <ivan_> !autostart
[06:47] <lincoln> other question from me, what effect after i updated my computer?
[06:47] <joshual> hi folks, running kubuntu hardy, just noticed there is no theme manager in appearance setttings
[06:47] <NickPresta> lincoln, I don't understand your question. What effects?
[06:47] <joshual> cant seem to find it to install either
[06:47] <Jucato> joshual: yeah. that has been removed from System Settings for a long time. if you absolutely need it, use "kcontrol"
[06:47] <lincoln> like become slower.
[06:47] <cameron_> NickPresta, it says it couldnt open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock. it also asks if i'm root
[06:48] <joshual> ok thanks Jucato
[06:48] <NickPresta> cameron_, you want to use 'sudo'. 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-xen-desktop'
[06:48]  * Jucato would recommend using -R with aptitude, or using apt-get... but that's for advanced stuff...
[06:48] <cameron_> NickPresta, same message. asks if another process is using it
[06:48] <NickPresta> lincoln, doing simple system updates won't cause your computer to become slower, unless there is a problem with the packages you just updated
[06:49] <ivan_> help me please i dont understand how to make an application autostart in kde 4
[06:49] <NickPresta> cameron_, you can only have one process open that is using your package manager. close Adept/Synaptic/etc
[06:49] <lincoln> if i using Adept Manger and select full system upgrades?
[06:50] <cameron_> NickPresta, thanks!
[06:51] <noaXess> i just updated xserver-xorg-core.. need i restart kdm?
[06:52] <NickPresta> cameron_, aptitude should suggest a solution which would fix your breakage (if possible). You can choose to listen to the suggestion, or ignore it. If aptitude can't find a suitable solution, please pastebin the whole output (the package breakage, etc).
[06:52] <mountain-linux> How can I get amarok to play mp3's
[06:53] <lincoln> install libxine
[06:53] <mountain-linux> i'm running 7.10
[06:53] <NickPresta> mountain-linux,  libxine-ffmpeg
[06:53] <lincoln> yes
[06:53] <mountain-linux> the libxine-ffmpeg is not there?
[06:54] <lincoln> use adept/synaptic/etc
[06:55] <cameron_> NickPresta, yes, it resolved the problem. thanks a lot
[06:55] <NickPresta> cameron_, :) out of curiosity, what was the problem?
[06:55] <NickPresta> mountain-linux, libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:56] <mountain-linux> how do i tell adept to look for libxine-ffmpeg
[06:57] <NickPresta> mountain-linux, libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:57] <cameron_> no idea to be honest, adept wasnt giving me a solution but aptitude did. it said that the package i wanted (ubuntu-xen-desktop) was broken, and to fix it it downloaded a bunch of related packages which turned out to be the ones i actually needed
[06:57] <NickPresta> cameron_, ah okay.
[06:57] <cameron_> time for a restart. thanks again
[06:59] <noaXess> what about xserver-xog-core.. need i restart kdm or not?
[06:59] <noaXess> or the whole machine?
[06:59] <lincoln> another question, how i expand my kubuntu partition? the partition on extended and it's locked.
[06:59] <NickPresta> Well, I'm heading to sleep. 2am. Goodnight all.
[07:00] <frogonwheels> noaXess: you got your drive on lvm?
[07:00] <lincoln> it's 1.15pm in Singapore. just my holiday house.
[07:01] <lincoln> sugeng01 why are you keep log in and out?
[07:02] <lincoln> guys answer my question please
[07:02] <frogonwheels> argh  lincoln you got your drive on lvm?
[07:02] <frogonwheels> sorry wrong person
[07:03] <lincoln> no problem
[07:03] <frogonwheels> I mean - the lvm question is for you
[07:03] <frogonwheels> relates to expanding kubuntu partition and all
[07:03] <lincoln> oh, no i'm using basic disk
[07:03] <lincoln> ext3
[07:04] <frogonwheels> lincoln: well the answer is basicly that you would really need to be on lvm
[07:04] <frogonwheels> lincoln: you got another disk or something?
[07:04] <frogonwheels> lincoln: what are you expanding onto?
[07:05] <lincoln> the kubuntu partition
[07:05] <frogonwheels> lincoln:  yeah - but where to? you got another drive?
[07:05] <lincoln> no
[07:06] <frogonwheels> I'm probably mis-understanding something here then.
[07:07] <lincoln> what mis-understanding?
[07:07] <frogonwheels> lincoln: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[07:07] <lincoln> if using gparted on Gparted live cd?
[07:07] <lincoln> is that help?
[07:08] <frogonwheels> - and you want to increase the size of your kubuntu partition?
[07:08] <lincoln> yes, of course
[07:08] <frogonwheels> - and you've got stuff on it?
[07:09] <lincoln> what stuff?
[07:09] <frogonwheels> - as in you have things installed onto it currently.
[07:09] <lincoln> yes
[07:09] <frogonwheels> - and you have some spare space on the drive?
[07:10] <lincoln> yes, almost 746 gb
[07:10] <frogonwheels> lincoln: well you probably have a few options... 1 is to copy a tree like /usr off onto  a new partition.
[07:11] <gurpreet> hi
[07:11] <lincoln> and?
[07:11] <frogonwheels> mount the new partition on /usr
[07:11] <frogonwheels> It's hard to know without knowing how you've got things set up.
[07:11] <lincoln> hhmmmmm, i can't be increased with gparted?
[07:14] <lincoln> hmmmm, maybe i want to eat first. i'm starving now. see ya again in few minutes
[07:20] <mountain-linux> I enabled all the reposatories and then it was there to install. libxine1-ffmpeg.
[07:24] <mountain-linux> My mp3 is playing with Amarok now.
[07:26] <yogi1> There's any of network tools that implemented with Kubuntu?
[07:26] <yogi1> Hello guys.
[07:27] <yogi1> Oh, may godness!!!
[07:29] <tuxwulf> What's the question ...?
[07:30] <mountain-linux> How can I get amarok to auto play a cd that has mp3's on it ?
[07:32] <mountain-linux> I setup the auto run for normal cd's, that works
[07:32] <mountain-linux> How can I get amarok to auto play a cd that has mp3's on it ?
[07:34] <eagles0513875> what other programs besides a mule r there
[07:35] <eagles0513875> !p2p
[07:35] <eagles0513875> !gnutella
[07:36] <eagles0513875> !edonkey
[08:06] <gps> how can i write a crontab entry with a command that requires sudo?
[08:19] <gps> how can i write a crontab entry with a command that requires sudo?
[08:20] <outin> salut à tous
[08:20] <outin> hy
[08:21] <Lam_> I need a program that will let me test serial communications within Kubuntu to an exteral device
[08:22] <jussi01> !fr | outin
[08:23] <jussi01> !info minicom | Lam_
[08:23] <Lam_> jussi01: Ah wonderful.  Thanks a lot!
[08:23] <jussi01> Lam_: you are most welcome :)
[08:38] <The_ManU_212> hi
[08:38] <The_ManU_212> i'm using hardy and i cant open any links with thunderbird
[08:38] <The_ManU_212> :(
[08:38] <The_ManU_212> firefox is installed
[08:50] <sigma_> how do i sync my kontact mail between my desktop pc and laptop? so that both have the same mail in their folders?
[09:39] <daniftodi> #ro
[09:40] <daniftodi> #ro
[09:41] <xenol> i have small problem, yesterday i downloaded truecrypt that i will try it this week, i turned off pc, but when i switched it on, grub is gone and truecrypt bootloader is there, i didnt do anything wiyh truecrypt yet, any ideas?
[09:41] <daniftodi> !ro
[09:42] <machiel_> #linux
[09:42] <machiel_> join #linux
[09:45] <testcenter> hello all
[09:46] <testcenter> hello?
[09:47] <HollowPoint> hi
[09:47] <testcenter> hi there Hollow!
[09:47] <HollowPoint> hi
[09:48] <testcenter> so this is like a chat where ppl can ask questions and stuff?
[09:48] <HollowPoint> yup
[09:48] <testcenter> wow, I am so amazed by what linux ppl  do, i just started using kubuntu two days ago
[09:48] <HollowPoint> cool
[09:49] <testcenter> this stuff is great
[09:49] <daniftodi_> hello
[09:49] <testcenter> hello there
[09:50] <daniftodi_> i am a problem with my modem conexant
[09:50] <daniftodi_> KPPP->query modem->... modem busy
[09:51] <daniftodi_> wvdialconf - >
[09:51] <daniftodi_> Scanning your serial ports for a modem.
[09:51] <daniftodi_> Modem Port Scan<*1>: S0   S1   S2   S3
[09:51] <daniftodi_> Sorry, no modem was detected!  Is it in use by another program?
[09:51] <daniftodi_> Did you configure it properly with setserial?
[09:52] <Alarm> goodmorning
[09:52] <Alarm> i got a mount problem with my external usb hdd drive.
[09:52] <Alarm> it is a 80gb ntfs partition , when turning it on (i use kde) , and try to enter it, i get an error message "could not enter folder /media/Movable"
[09:52] <Alarm> the folder is being created automatically every time i turn the drive on
[09:52] <Alarm> and erased every time i turn it off
[09:53] <Alarm> the permitions i see for the moment are: dr-x------  1 root root   4096 2007-10-15 10:07 Movable-1
[09:53] <Alarm> when i create a Movable folder by myself with permitions for my user. the system creates automatically a 2nd folder as you can see "Movable-1"
[09:59] <machiel_> hi alarm, maybe in konsole you go to /media/Movable and then check if you see your usb-drive and then sudo chown user.user /media/Movable/your usbdrive
[10:00] <machiel_> or  better user.root
[10:00] <Alarm> i did that, i did create a folder with my users ownership , but the system created a second folder as u saw "Movable-1"
[10:00] <Alarm> i can enter in the directory as a root, not as a user
[10:01] <Alarm> in mtab when its turned on the line /dev/sda1 /media/Movable-1 ntfs rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,utf8 0 0 apears
[10:15] <machiel_> I dont know alarm, in my experience it's mostly a mount-problem or a permission-problem.
[10:43] <crimsaq> I'm trying to fully exit KDE and get to the command line to install my NVIDIA drivers, anyone tell me how?
[10:44] <crimsaq> I need the X server closed.
[10:44] <crimsaq> ctrl alt f1 doesnt close it
[10:49] <GillesM> Hi I have installed 8.05 on my laptop ... I don't have sound nor wireless if I boot 2.6.24-18-server
[10:49] <GillesM> If I boot on 2.6.24-18 I have sound or wireless but not NVIDIA
[10:49] <GillesM> any idea ?
[10:50] <jussi01> GillesM: sounds like you are missing the restricted modules for certain things on certain kernels
[10:51] <GillesM> ok
[10:52] <GillesM> I have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-18-generic
[10:58] <lakis1982> hii ... i ahve a problem ... i cant add any virtual desktops through the compiz setttings manager... the option desktop number is highlighted with blue letters and i cant change the number .... whyy ???
[11:03] <lakis1982> anyone here?
[11:04] <nado> i hope so
[11:09] <machiel_> i'm here
[11:10] <lakis1982> hii ... i ahve a problem ... i cant add any virtual desktops through the compiz setttings manager... the option desktop number is highlighted with blue letters and i cant change the number .... whyy ???
[11:12] <nado> I'm trying to use an external hdd, but when I plug it in, it's not listed under media...
[11:13] <_Angelus_> hello
[11:13] <_Angelus_> in which file in linux shoes why my computer froze andc
[11:13] <_Angelus_> *froze and crashed
[11:15] <Atlan> _Angelus_: try /var/log/syslog
[11:22] <giovanni_h> hello
[11:23] <giovanni_h> do you know why kmail does not assemble messages (in mailing lists) as threads?
[11:24] <giovanni_h> I'm not able to follow the discussions
[11:25] <josef_> guys i have a problem  with my knetworkmanager its dialup connections does not appears but in kppp i did already some setups
[11:29] <lakis1982> do u know any good download manager for kubuntu to download rapidshare iles ??  like flashget
[11:29] <_Angelus_> somebody helps me find out why my pc is crashing
[11:30] <_Angelus_> some of the systemlogs are in .gz format
[11:31] <engineer> lakis1982 kget?
[11:31] <engineer> _Angelus_ use ksystemlog
[11:32] <_Angelus_> that thing is only displaying todays file :/
[11:32] <lakis1982> with kget can u download rapidshare files using passwords ?
[11:32] <lakis1982> have u tried kget?
[11:49] <ivan_> cià
[11:49] <ivan_> a tutti
[11:56] <doedtmann> Hello, i've got an issue with kpdf not loading pdf docs from web pages if the mime type is application/x-pdf instead of application/pdf
[11:56] <doedtmann> it prints "kpdf: WARNING: Unknown mimetype 'application/x-pdf'." to the terminal and doesn't show the document
[11:58] <arkygeek_> hi.  wow, kubrick is sloooow....  is this normal?
[11:58] <arkygeek_> taking like 100% cpu
[12:05] <Atlan> _Angelus_: you know how to look into files?
[12:08] <Atlan> there are equivalent viewer for gzipped files: less/zless grep/zgrep
[12:20] <EightiesK> i have wubi installed and i keep getting busy box when trying to boot can the installation be salvaged?
[12:21] <EightiesK> ne1?
[12:32] <eagles0513875> anyone alive in here
[12:32] <eagles0513875> im looking for the pg that has what one need to have installed on their system to bug fix
[12:34] <monzie> HI all
[12:34] <monzie> I am downloading kubuntu-kde4 package
[12:34] <eagles0513875> hey
[12:35] <eagles0513875> monzie: kool
[12:35] <monzie> Will that setup my KDE4 dev environment for me as well?
[12:35] <monzie> eagles0513875: thanks
[12:35] <eagles0513875> monzie: i dont think so
[12:35] <monzie> or, what is the package that I need to install so that I get the kde4 sdk, so that I can compile my KDE4 applications ?
[12:35] <eagles0513875> do apt-cache search kde4-dev and see what comes up
[12:36] <eagles0513875> monzie: you might also be better helped in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:38] <RurouniJones> is there a way to force a screen redraw in kubuntu?
[12:39] <monzie> eagles0513875: it was kde4-devel , python-kde4-dev :)
[13:30] <giuseppe> salve
[13:30] <giuseppe> qualcuno parla italiano?????
[13:31] <engineer> no
[13:31] <engineer> !it
[13:31] <giuseppe> thanks
[13:31] <giuseppe> bye
[13:38] <eagles0513875> monzie: enjoy it
[14:06] <rav> hello. I installed firefox 3 on kubuntu 8.04 last night, and nothing happens when I click on it, though I can see the process on the process table. Four or five minutes later, the window pops up, but I can't do anything in it. Is it a bug?
[14:08] <FoxIII> rav, I would certainly think so. Can you find out any other further information? It would be helpful so you can find out where the problem lies, but I would think it is FF3. It's bound to be a bit buggy as it's not released until tomorrow officially.
[14:09] <rav> FoxIII: I read that it conflicts with network-manager, but I don't have it installed
[14:10] <FoxIII> rav, Then it sounds like a different bug. If you can't find any information on it, then you should report it.
[14:16] <manus> can somebody help me to connect to the internet  with a second computer (sidux) we messed up the ip-adresse i believe
[14:16] <FoxIII> How are you going to be connecting manus ? Wired, wireless, lan?
[14:17] <manus> were wired.
[14:17] <manus> i had connection on both computers before we tried to set upp a network
[14:17] <manus> i have adsl
[14:19] <FoxIII> Have you checked all the settings are correct on both machines? Can you get onto the internet from the main computer?
[14:21] <manus> i do not know how the settings are on the sidux computer, this, computer wich whow i chat is i think the main computer.
[14:22] <manus> so i can get acces to the internet
[14:23] <FoxIII> Right so you need to know your settings and how to access these from the sidux computer.
[14:23] <manus> yes, and i want to make a small network between these two computers.
[14:27] <freestyle> hola
[14:28] <freestyle> hello
[14:28] <freestyle> speak english?
[14:28] <freestyle> or spanish?
[14:28] <manus> dutch
[14:29] <FoxIII> We speak english here freestyle
[14:29] <manus> and english
[14:29] <Pici> freestyle: This channel is english only, check out #kubuntu-es
[14:29] <Pici> or #ubuntu-es
[14:29] <freestyle> i need help to install a tv capture card
[14:29] <FoxIII> ^ah, thx Pici
[14:31] <FoxIII> manus, is the network card on the sidux machine set up correctly? Does it show up correctly?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:32] <FoxIII> Hey BluesKaj
[14:32] <manus> i thought so, in the beginnin it was working correct. how can i check it in the shell?
[14:33] <FoxIII> If it is pci card, type: lspci -nn or lsusb for a usb network.
[14:33] <manus> wait a moment i'll check
[14:33] <FoxIII> Can you see the computer from your main machine?
[14:35] <manus> no i cant see it from the main machine. It has a ethernet card, by the way
[14:36] <manus> how can i check this...network tools??
[14:37] <FoxIII> Network tools should be able to show you if the card has been set up correctly on the sidux machine, yes. If you can see it from the main computer, it sounds like it has been set up correctly.
[14:38] <manus> i cannot see it on the main computer, the sidux machine doesnot have network tools.... so??
[14:38] <FoxIII> What network card do you have in the sidux?
[14:39] <manus> an ethernet card.
[14:39] <FoxIII> yes. Do you have a model name/number?
[14:42] <manus> i got 2 card: broadcom corp bcm 4401 100 base -t [14e4:4401] {rev 01)  and ethernet controller 0200: 3 com corp 3c905c-tx/tx-m[ tornado] [10b7:9200] (rev 78)
[14:44] <FoxIII> Right. As you don't have internet access on the sidux machine, you will probably need to copy them onto a cd or usb pen, but for the broadcom one you need the following packages; bcm43xx-fwcutter b43-fwcutter
[14:46] <manus> ok i'll try thnxs for now foxlll
[14:47] <FoxIII> okay. Any probs, just shout.
[15:01] <arnaud__> where can I find help for tcsh and ubuntu?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu | arnaud__
[15:09] <jthomas> Is there a tool within the Kubuntu "8.04 Alternative " install CD which will just restore GRUB?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> arnaud__, try #ubuntu
[15:11] <SpudWLike> jthomas: The 'Rescue mode' on a LiveCD has helped me in the past to make such a repair.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> jthomas, there is a cd app called 'super grub disk' , that will help you restore grub , but sometimes just a little editing in /boot/grub/menu.lst can do it too
[15:12] <BluesKaj> jthomas, why not pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst , and we can have a look
[15:12] <jthomas> but the Alternate install CD isn't a LiveCD :( and I think the Rescue Mode (in past experiences) was just a CLI; not so handy for my brother in another part of the country.  I was hoping for a very simple, automated tool like the Kiwi linux claims to have... maybe I'll ask him to try that.  He couldn't pastebin that, Windows overwrote his MBR and he wanted a dual boot.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> well one can restore the windows mbr with some editing in the /boot/grub/menu.lst if his partition windows is not vista
[15:14] <BluesKaj> err , windows partition
[15:15] <jthomas> its XP.  But he cannot get into his Linux to do that.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> which linux?
[15:15] <jthomas> Kubuntu 8.04
[15:15] <jthomas> from the Alternate install cD
[15:17] <FoxIII> jthomas, this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:17] <FoxIII> It has a section on the alternate cd.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> jthomas, tell him to , ctrl+F2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst and add this to the bottom of the file
[15:18] <BluesKaj> just a sec
[15:19] <jthomas> BluesKaj: He cannot boot into Linuxx to add the Windows part
[15:19] <jthomas> to the grub/menu.lst file
[15:20] <BluesKaj> jthomas, then he needs a 'super grub disk'
[15:22] <jthomas> nah there are other ways.  Mepis 3.4, a loooong time ago, had a tool to do just this.  Kiwi, based on *buntu 8.04, has a tool for it.  I was hoping the official *buntus would have something as well.  I'll have him try the Kiwi and if that doesn't work I'll try FoxIII's suggestion from that link.  Thanks BluesKaj and FoxIII.
[15:23] <FoxIII> Good luck :)
[15:24] <jthomas> FoxIII: thanks! hey that HowTo references /dev/hdX but isn't it all /dev/sdX now?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hmm, too bad he couldn't edit it from the TTY prompt
[15:24] <FoxIII> jthomas, you need to replace the X with the hard disk number for example; /dev/sda1
[15:25] <jthomas> yes but its now labeled as sda not hda, correct?  or does this hda part still happen in the live mode or something?
[15:42] <noaXess> i want install a newer package from source code.. is it better to remove the current installed package?
[15:43] <Pici> noaXess: Yes
[15:43] <noaXess> okay.. or other question.. how can i make a deb file from that source?
[15:44] <noaXess> it is pdfedit.. the v3.2.0 is in the repos of kubuntu but i need the newset version v4.x
[15:45] <Pici> !newpackage | noaXess
[15:45] <Pici> !checkisntall | noaXess
[15:45] <Pici> !checkinstall | noaXess
[15:45] <Pici> Checkinstall packages arent for distributing to others though, they're a bit of a hack attempt at making a .deb
[15:45] <noaXess> Pici: okay.. thanks
[15:47] <RadeonX1650TX> español
[15:47] <RadeonX1650TX> s¿donde es
[15:47] <Atlan> !es
[15:47] <jthomas> !es
[15:58] <edju> what's the kde equivalent of gnome's system-->administration-->hardware drivers?
[15:59] <dwidmann> edju: maybe, system, hardware drivers manager .... but I'm not sure because you couldn't pay me to be a gnome user :P
[15:59] <genii> system...kinfocenter
[16:00] <dwidmann> if kinfocenter, then kde-hal-device-manager should be an alternative also?
[16:01] <genii> Perhaps. Generally I just ignore all the gnome/xfce/kde centric stuff and modprobe actually
[16:08] <noaXess> is there anyone that can help.. or build a package for me ;) i never have build a packe from source myself.. i know, i can read throught all the guides.. but if anybody has also latest kubuntu with kde3.. and is a package spec., it will be nice.. thanks
[16:10] <genii> noaXess: There may already be one available. What program is it?
[16:10] <noaXess> pdfedit..
[16:10] <noaXess> the problem is, the pdfedit version in the repos is old
[16:10] <noaXess> and the newest ist v4.1.0
[16:10] <filo1234> hi to all i have  aproblem with skype and microphone, test call don' t record my voice
[16:11] <filo1234> so i have an eeepc 900
[16:12] <noaXess> genii: any idea
[16:12] <Jucato> !info pdfedit intrepid
[16:13] <genii> !info pdfedit hardy-proposed
[16:13] <genii> Hmm
[16:13] <Jucato> it's in intrepid
[16:13] <Jucato> might want to request a backport if possible. (file a package request?)
[16:14] <noaXess> !info pdfedit
[16:14] <noaXess> Jucato: what is intrepid?
[16:14] <Jucato> noaXess: the next version of Ubuntu
[16:15] <Jucato> Intrepid Ibex
[16:15] <window> does somebody mind explaining to me how to install Firefox in Kubuntu?
[16:15] <Pici> !ibex
[16:15] <noaXess> okay.. but.. can i install this on my hardy?
 might want to request a backport if possible. (file a package request?)
[16:15] <jussi01> window: open adept, search for firefox, click request install
[16:15] <noaXess> window: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[16:15] <window> ah
[16:16] <andres> hello
[16:16] <andres> hello!!!
[16:17] <andres> heeeeeeellllloooooooo!!!!
[16:17] <window> jussi01, how do i do that?
[16:17] <andres> speacking spanis??
[16:17] <noaXess> window: kmenu / sytem / edept manager
[16:18] <Pici> !es | andres
[16:18] <andres> speacking spanish??
[16:19] <andres> alone!!
[16:20] <nyuu__> hi everybody
[16:20] <window> noaXess, jussi01, when I use adept manager and I search for firefox it gives me nothing 0.o
[16:21] <window> new color
[16:21] <andres> good bye!!!
[16:21] <andres> see you later
[16:21] <YagamiLight> hey I want to ask a question about folders
[16:21] <jussi01> window: make sure you have the correct repositories  - ( in adept menu - manage repositories)
[16:21] <YagamiLight> in my ntfs hard drive, I couldn't remove a folder
[16:22] <noaXess> window: what about, if you run the command in youe konsole, for firefox 3: sudo apt-get install firefox .. or for firefox 2 sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[16:22] <YagamiLight> When I press the delete button, it dissapears about a second and after that it pops up again
[16:22] <window> noaXess, it says FILE NOT FOUND
[16:23] <YagamiLight> I have tried to give chmod -r 777 permission but it didn't affect
[16:23] <YagamiLight> what can I do for now
[16:24] <YagamiLight> :'(
[16:24] <Pennycook> Hey guys, I'm tring to run fsck on one of my drives, but it seems to exit straight away without doing anything useful or re-scanning the drive.  Here's the command I ran and the output I get; what am I doing wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20640/ ?
[16:26] <window> noaXess, it says "Couldn't find Package Firefox"
[16:27] <window> on an unrelated note, can I connect to WyldRyde via Konversation?
[16:28] <shtrk> hi all.can kubuntu 8.04 have start manu like suse 11 or mandriva 2008?
[16:29] <ds187> shtrk: if you mean Kickoff (http://de.opensuse.org/Kickoff) then you can just install it via adept_manager
[16:30] <shtrk> yes,that it's.thanks.
[16:30] <Dragonath> why can't my amarok play ogg files off a CD? in fact, why can't it play a CD?
[16:32] <gps> hi
[16:32] <gps> how can i commands requiring sudo in my crontab?
[16:33] <gps> how can i put* commands requiring sudo in my crontab?
[16:34] <Pici> gps: dont edit your crontab, edit root's.  sudo crontab -e
[16:34] <gps> Pici: got! thanks
[16:36] <window> ok, how do i download/install Firefox?
[16:36] <engineer> sudo aptitude install firefox
[16:36] <gps> window: download firefox tomorrow :)
[16:37] <window> yes but how do i download? should i click open or sav?
[16:37] <engineer> window run that command
[16:37] <engineer> gps today's version is the same as tomorrows
[16:37] <gps> engineer: tomz is the download day
[16:37] <Dragonath> why can't my amarok play ogg files off a CD? in fact, why can't it play a CD?
[16:38] <noaXess> Jucato: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfedit/+bug/240427
[16:38] <engineer> do you have a cd drive?
[16:40] <window> engineer "
[16:40] <window> Couldn't find any package matching "firefox".  However, the following
[16:40] <window> packages contain "firefox" in their description:
[16:40] <window>   kubuntu-docs
[16:40] <window> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[16:40] <window> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:40] <window> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[16:40] <Jucato> !flood | window
[16:40] <gps> gps: you can get firefox 3 tomz when it will be finally released from its website
[16:40] <Pici> window: What version of firefox are you trying to install and what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[16:40] <engineer> firefox-3.0
[16:40] <engineer> try that
[16:40] <gps> window: you can get firefox 3 tomz when it will be finally released from its website
[16:41] <Jucato> noaXess: ok. not sure how a package request is supposed to be done. but hopefully that will get noticed
[16:41] <Pici> gps: But the officially supported package will not be available then
[16:41] <window> Pici, version 2.0.0.14 Firefox, and Hardy Heron
[16:41] <noaXess> Jucato: just a request.. it seams to be viewed, changed in the subject line ;)
[16:41] <Pici> window: You want the firefox-2 package then
[16:41] <engineer> sudo aptitude install firefox-3.0
[16:41] <window> k
[16:41] <Pici> engineer: He wants 2.0 though....
[16:42] <engineer> sudo aptitude install firefox-2.0
[16:42] <engineer> oops
[16:42] <engineer> sudo aptitude install firefox-2
[16:42] <gps> Pici: i agree
[16:42] <window> I've tried them all so far, same result
[16:42] <window> hm
[16:43] <Pici> window: Can you share you /etc/apt/sources.list file? through a !pastebin?
[16:43] <Pici> !paste
[16:44] <gps> window: you can either install ff2 or ff3 today from ubuntu's repos, or (better) you can download ff3 tomz from their website and help them set a world record, though it will not be offically supported by ubuntu. Your choice!
[16:45] <window> I pledged to download a month ago, i know what's up in FireFox, k? Thanks but do you not realize I can't download firefox 3 if I don't have a browser in the first place?
[16:45] <engineer> sure you can
[16:45] <engineer> konqueror is a browser
[16:45] <engineer> or you can use synaptic
[16:45] <window> konqueror doesn't work, it doesn't support Java
[16:45] <gps> window: i can mail u the link and then u use wget :)
[16:45] <window> or Flash
[16:45] <engineer> sure it does
[16:46] <engineer> at flash it does
[16:46] <engineer> java i never tried
[16:46] <gps> there was some prob with java on konqueror
[16:46] <window> Pici, ur /etc/apt/sources.list command phailed
[16:46] <Pici> window: Its not a command
[16:47] <window> in Konsole it didn't work
[16:47] <Pici> window: open up /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor and paste the contents into a pastebin
[16:47] <window> ah
[16:47] <Pici> Sorry, I should have clarified
[16:47] <window> is there a Konsole command for that? I don't know how to search for the file
[16:48] <Pici> window: just run: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:49] <window> Great, i've got it opened, what part of it do u need/
[16:49] <Pici> window: The whole thing
[16:49] <Pici> !paste
[16:49] <window> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20646/
[16:52] <window> there is the content of my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/20646/
[17:03] <window> can somebody help me join the WyldRyde network?
[17:05] <F-u-z-z-Y> Hi there, im looking for some help to install/update wireless drivers for Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection. I have download drivers http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/ but i'm not sure what to do now. please can someone help me? Thanks
[17:06] <genii> window: It's just an IRC system. Use konversation or xchat or whatever
[17:06] <window> i am in konversation, so how do i join WR?
[17:06] <F-u-z-z-Y> window: /j WR
[17:07] <window> hm, doesn't work, do you understand that WyldRyde is an IRC host?
[17:07] <window> like Freenode
[17:08] <F-u-z-z-Y> window: press F7
[17:08] <llutz> window: press F2, "new" and add info
[17:08] <window> ah, ok
[17:08] <F-u-z-z-Y> or F2 lol
[17:09] <llutz> F7 for quick success, F2 to fix it for future use :)
[17:09] <Rioting_pacifist> a device has disapeard from my lsusb after trying out an experimental driver for it, is it possible i blew up some hardware?
[17:10] <alexander_> yo
[17:14] <window> Can somebody tell me how to create widgets in Kubuntu?
[17:15] <alexander_> opera widgets?
[17:15] <window> any
[17:17] <window> alexander, ANY widgets
[17:26] <GillesM> msg NickServ identify 2411
[17:26] <F-u-z-z-Y> ^ oops, lol
[17:26] <GillesM> lol
[17:27] <LinuxWorld> haha
[17:28] <LinuxWorld> joerg are you a german
[17:28] <LinuxWorld> i knew it
[17:28] <LinuxWorld> :D
[17:38] <getter> Hi!
[17:45] <junkeR> Anyone recommend using 6.06 LTS Kubuntu?
[17:46] <Rioting_pacifist> junkeR: do you need comercial support?
[17:47] <stdin> *long term comercial support
[17:47] <junkeR> Not really.  Would that be the only reason for using it?
[17:48] <Morslok> I was wondering if anyone could help me, for some reason GRUB bootloader is giving me an error 22 when I start the computer.
[17:48] <Morslok> I just installed kubuntu and also have win xp on the same machine
[17:48] <Rioting_pacifist> junkeR:  pretty much, unless you have particular issues with 8.04 AND 7.10 AND 7.04, your best of with 8.04 for most hardware
[17:49] <stdin> junkeR: 6.06 is getting quite old now (released 2 years ago), we always recommend the latest version available (which is Hardy 8.04)
[17:49] <Rioting_pacifist> !grub
[17:49] <Rioting_pacifist> dont no much about error 22 does it give anything more descriptive
[17:49] <Morslok> nope just says error 22 and nothing else happens
[17:52] <llutz> error 22 ="No such partition", so use grub-shell to find correct one and fix it
[17:53] <theriex> Where can i find a banner link for kubuntu to place on my web site?  I tried browsing around the faq and support but can't seem to find any info.
[17:53] <junkeR> well, I have an Everex GPC2 - Ubuntu/Kubuntu 6.06 work just fine, but after 8.04 is installed it seems to forget xorg.conf settings
[17:54] <junkeR> info at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823935&highlight=gpc2
[17:54] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[17:55] <MetaMorfoziS> How can i do this permanently? : echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/queue/iosched/fifo_batch
[17:55] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i get what kind of grub option covers this?
[17:55] <MetaMorfoziS> or anything...
[17:55] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[17:56] <Morslok> llutz: I wouldn't even know how to begin to do that.  Would it be easier to just reinstall kubuntu?
[17:56] <llutz> Morslok: just repair grub
[17:57] <Morslok> llutz: How?
[17:57] <llutz> Morslok: like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[17:59] <junkeR> Does LTS mean only support?  I thought LTS also meant updates as well?
[18:00] <Pici> junkeR: It means security updates
[18:02] <dwidmann> !lts
[18:02] <GillesM> hi I will leave kubuntu
[18:02] <GillesM> 8.04 is ugly
[18:02] <GillesM> I don't have nvidia
[18:02] <GillesM> not
[18:03] <GillesM> no wireless
[18:03] <Rioting_pacifist> bye, dont let the door hit your ass
[18:03] <GillesM> :)
[18:04] <Rioting_pacifist> junkeR: that seams like a wierd by xorg.conf is just a file, id recomend falling back to 7.10 over 6.06 though newer software means its probably more stable
[18:04] <Rioting_pacifist> GillesM: if you want acual support go for it but if your just gunna cry because some stuff broke then go back to windows nobody will miss you
[18:05] <junkeR> 7.10 did work, if I recall correctly.  I think I'll run that instead.
[18:06] <Rioting_pacifist> junkeR: the update will rewrite your xorg settings because your using new drivers, does the xoth.conf get rewritten everyboot?
[18:07] <junkeR> I'm not sure about xoth.conf (never heard of that..) - I read that 8.04 has a new feature where it auto-detects the video/monitor on every boot.  Apparently 7.10 and below don't do this.  GPC2 comes with GOSv2 which is based off of 7.10. - I would like to use an 8.04 version, but i can't seem to find a decent fix.
[18:08] <Rioting_pacifist> sorry i meant xorg
[18:08] <junkeR> Yes, I would imagine it does get rewritten every boot.
[18:08] <junkeR> I have read that installing 7.10 then doing a net-upgrade to 8.04 works for the computer as well - but I have never tested that yet.
[18:10] <Rioting_pacifist> junkeR: wired mine never gets rewriten, theres BulletproofX which might do it if X crashes but ive padded my xorg out with plently of options and they dont disapear
[18:10] <junkeR> are you running a gpc2?
[18:10] <Rioting_pacifist> gpc2?
[18:11] <junkeR> http://www.everex.com/products/gpc2/gpc2.htm
[18:12] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:13] <window> 'scuse me, I need to know how to make sure Kubuntu recognizes my USB drives
[18:14] <Rioting_pacifist> junkeR: no but once you stick the right strings in xorg.conf i dont think that would really be a problem
[18:14] <junkeR> Should copy xorg from 6.06 or 7.10?  Would it matter of it was ubuntu/kubuntu?
[18:16] <Rioting_pacifist> no xorg.conf should be rewritten as xorg has changed but if you backup your xorg.conf you can copy over important strings, i dont think it makes any difference as to kubuntu/ubuntu but i may be wrong
[18:16] <rajkalyan> i can't will till this install finishes
[18:16] <Rioting_pacifist> window: kubuntu should recognise anything you plug in
[18:16] <window> Does anybody know how to check hardware in Kubuntu?
[18:16] <rajkalyan> i think so
[18:16] <window> Rioting, not even my USB mouse works
[18:16] <rajkalyan> what version?
[18:16] <window> Hardy Heron
[18:17] <rajkalyan> ok
[18:17] <Rioting_pacifist> lsusb will list your usb stuff
[18:17] <rajkalyan> go to the K menu
[18:17] <window> k
[18:17] <rajkalyan> system
[18:17] <rajkalyan> kinfo
[18:17] <rajkalyan> Kinfo
[18:17] <rajkalyan> it should list all your stuff
[18:17] <window> k
[18:17] <rajkalyan> its like device manager on windows
[18:18] <fwths> hello do you know any password cracker for RAR files
[18:18] <NickPresta> fwths, no. Why would you need one
[18:18] <rajkalyan> rar files?
[18:18] <window> It doesn't list my devices, it shows USB drive but it doesn't recognize that anything is plugged in
[18:18] <rajkalyan> what are those?
[18:18] <rajkalyan> window hmm
[18:19] <rajkalyan> do you have a usb driver installed?
[18:19] <window> no, how would I get one?
[18:19] <window> is it in my repos?
[18:19] <rajkalyan> you should check online
[18:19] <jparishy> Hey, has anyone ever had a problem where resizing windows is insanely slow?
[18:19] <rajkalyan> not really
[18:19] <rajkalyan> why?
[18:20] <rajkalyan> do you have it?
[18:20] <jparishy> Yes
[18:20] <rajkalyan> check your display settings
[18:20] <NickPresta> jparishy, nope. what sort of system specs do you have? do you have any effects enabled?
[18:20] <rajkalyan> the depth might be messed up
[18:20] <fwths> NickPresta what about to crack a password
[18:20] <window> how do i install Opera/
[18:20] <rajkalyan> download it
[18:20] <window> -.-
[18:20] <Rioting_pacifist> rajkalyan: could you try and use less lines
[18:21] <rajkalyan> sure
[18:21] <NickPresta> fwths, we don't support cracking passwords here or anything else that could be construed as illegal
[18:21] <matsdb> konversation really is a nice irc-client :))
[18:21] <jparishy> NickPresta: quad core, nvidia 8800gt (w/ drivers), i don't think i have any effects as i don't see them
[18:21] <rajkalyan> ya think?
[18:21] <window> I installed Opera, all it gives me is a package, now how do i INSTALL it?
[18:21] <window> downloaded*
[18:21] <fwths> i dont ask for support only for a name
[18:21] <jparishy> .deb?
[18:22] <NickPresta> window, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#head-2d5080498c393b3ea61218507a237a9fcf86dfe9
[18:22] <Rioting_pacifist> jparishy: what window manager are you using
[18:22] <window> .deb yes
[18:22] <rajkalyan> did you try openng it?
[18:22] <NickPresta> fwths, sorry, no can do  :)
[18:22] <window> yes, all it does is show me the files, nothing runs
[18:22] <jparishy> "sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>"
[18:22] <window> k one sec
[18:22] <fwths> NickPresta: ok nevermind thanks anyway
[18:22] <jparishy> Rioting_pacifist: Whatever KDE uses by default?
[18:22] <AdamTech1> #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:22] <NickPresta> window, you should add the repository and install the package that way. you get security updates and such
[18:23] <rajkalyan> check your add/remove programs
[18:23] <rajkalyan> look up debian package manager
[18:23] <rajkalyan> you should find a manager for them
[18:23] <rajkalyan> im not sure if ark will work
[18:24] <Rioting_pacifist> jparishy: without any 3d effects ive never had problems with kwin resizing, perhaps make sure you have transluceny turned off and under moving turn off displaying contents
[18:25] <han_> hola a todos
[18:25] <NickPresta> !es | han_
[18:25]  * rajkalyan goes back to installation
[18:25] <han_> hello everybody
[18:25] <NickPresta> hi, han_
[18:25]  * rajkalyan laughs
[18:25] <han_> i have a problem with kubuntu
[18:25] <rajkalyan> what is it?
[18:25] <jparishy> Rioting_pacifist: I changed it to not show the contents and when applying the change the decorator manager crashed, how can i restart it?
[18:26] <NickPresta> han_, sure. what's up
[18:26] <window> !paste
[18:26] <Rioting_pacifist> start a new console in konversation and run kwin --replace
[18:26] <han_> i have a portable computer model acer aspire 1640
[18:26] <han_> with kubuntu
[18:26] <rajkalyan> whats the problem with it?
[18:26] <han_> and sometimes when i turn on the computer
[18:26] <Rioting_pacifist> sounds like you have some sort of composting running for it to be so crashy
[18:27] <han_> the icons of the energy and the netmanager dont appear in the var
[18:27] <rajkalyan> var?
[18:27] <han_> apear on the top of the computer
[18:27] <han_> bar
[18:27] <han_> sorry
[18:27] <rajkalyan> that outside?
[18:27] <han_> yes
[18:27] <matsdb> any way to make kpdf open up inside of firefox?
[18:27] <window> jparishy, when i do the sudo dpkg -i it gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/20666/
[18:27] <jparishy> Rioting_pacifist: This never happened to me in feisty, i just recently updated to whatever is the newest version (from a few weeks ago)
[18:27] <rajkalyan> try talking to acer
[18:27] <jparishy> window: you spelled it wrong?
[18:27] <rajkalyan> that might with the hardware
[18:27] <jparishy> Remember, case sensative filenames
[18:27] <window> absolutely not
[18:28] <jparishy> I don't know, that was just a guess
[18:28] <window> hmmmm
[18:28] <llutz> window: opera not pera...
[18:28] <NickPresta> matsdb, kpdf doesn't have a firefox plugin, but you can install the 'mozilla-acroread' package for the Adobe Acrobat Reader plugin
[18:28] <Rioting_pacifist> han_: are you running comiz or something like that?
[18:28] <LinuxWorld> Han eres espanol? i have the same laptop..whats the matter with those icons?
[18:28] <han_> yes rioting compiz and emerald
[18:28] <window> llutz, XD uhoh D<PHAIL`PHISH>
[18:28] <rajkalyan> they won't turn on
[18:28] <han_> si linuxworld
[18:28] <rajkalyan> l
[18:28] <matsdb> allright, thanks NickPresta
[18:29] <jparishy> So you did spell it wrong :P
[18:29] <LinuxWorld> yo tambien soy espanol
[18:29] <NickPresta> !english | LinuxWorld
[18:29] <LinuxWorld> han i dont get you..u mean the icons in the taskbar on the right?
[18:29] <rajkalyan> no
[18:29] <han_> sorry ubottu
[18:29] <rajkalyan> the outside
[18:29] <sigma_> i hate adept, can i remove it?
[18:29] <rajkalyan> i guess
[18:29] <window> even when i do spell it right it gives me the same error
[18:29] <Rioting_pacifist> han_: the problem is that compiz doesnt play nice with kicker, try #compiz, i think the solution is to turn of kwin session managment and turn on compiz session management so they load after compiz not before
[18:29] <window> -.-
[18:29] <rajkalyan> if you want to use apt-get
[18:29] <han_> i mean the icons that normally appear in the bar of the bottom of the screen
[18:30] <rajkalyan> those?
[18:30] <window> rajkalyan, me?
[18:30] <rajkalyan> i see
[18:30] <NickPresta> window, use tab completion. Type Op<TAB> and let your shell fill in the rest
[18:30] <llutz> window: you have to give complete path if deb is not in your actual directory
[18:30] <rajkalyan> window what?
[18:30] <han_> they appear like little windows on the top left of the screen
[18:30] <window> nvm
[18:30] <NickPresta> han_, running compiz?
[18:30] <han_> yes
[18:31] <han_> running compiz and emerald
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !es | LinuxWorld
[18:31] <NickPresta> han_, that is a compiz problem with KDE. I would ask in #compiz-fusion
[18:31] <rajkalyan> what about the desktop manager
[18:31] <jparishy> Couldn't type anything, had to restart X :|
[18:31] <BluesKaj> a little late , but methinks he got the message
[18:31] <han_> thanks nick
[18:32] <LinuxWorld> well..i dont have a clue here, sorry..in my case compiz, 8.04, acer aspire 1642Z is working well
[18:32] <Rioting_pacifist> its the composting and the session management #compiz fusion or my fix^^ will fix it
[18:33] <rajkalyan> whats compiz?
[18:33] <window> ok i downloaded the tar.gz file, any idea?
[18:33] <NickPresta> window, for what?
[18:33] <Rioting_pacifist> 3d effects, 'the cube', composting, etc
[18:33] <window> Opera
[18:33] <llutz> window: use the deb
[18:33] <rajkalyan> window, use ark
[18:33] <window> gah
[18:33] <NickPresta> window, please try and listen. Enable the Opera repository and install the package that way. You get security updates and such, too
[18:34] <NickPresta> installing from source is silly in this case
[18:34] <window> NickPresta, where?
[18:34] <NickPresta> window, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#head-2d5080498c393b3ea61218507a237a9fcf86dfe9
[18:34] <Rioting_pacifist> NickPresta: the tar isnt source its just the binary
[18:35] <Rioting_pacifist> window: your best to add the repo, if you must use the tar just unpack to /opt/
[18:35] <NickPresta> Rioting_pacifist, ah I see. In any case, it is still better to add the repository if you're a serious Opera user
[18:35] <rajkalyan> repository?? whats that?
[18:36] <Rioting_pacifist> Opera being evil and closed source, theyd be pretty dumb to get you to compile it
[18:36] <Rioting_pacifist> rajkalyan: its a majical place full of software
[18:36] <Rioting_pacifist> *magical
[18:36] <rajkalyan> haha very funny
[18:37] <rajkalyan> *magical*
[18:37] <Rioting_pacifist> if ive blown up the chip in my webcam, will it still show on lsusb?
[18:37] <engineer> yeah, it will show FUBAR
[18:38] <window> rioting pacifist, how what can i do with my tar file?
[18:39] <engineer> tar -xvf <file> .
[18:39] <Rioting_pacifist> window: your much better of adding the repository but if you must use the tar, then unpack it to /opt/ then run the executable from there
[18:39] <window> 0,o my mind is exploding, i made a mess all over my monitor
[18:40] <rajkalyan> what did you do?
[18:40] <Rioting_pacifist> [18:34] <NickPresta> window, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#head-2d5080498c393b3ea61218507a237a9fcf86dfe9
[18:40] <window> read half the stuff that's being typed
[18:40] <Rioting_pacifist> that is the best simplist thing to do6
[18:40] <matsdb> is there any encrytion-plugin for Konversation? (e.g like fish for irssi and xchat
[18:40] <window> rioting, i looked there, only mde things worse
[18:40] <NickPresta> window, how did things get worse?
[18:41] <window> Gah, Linux is so frustrating, i can't do anything, shouldn't things be simpler?! I have to type a mystic spell just to get Firefox installed
[18:41] <Rioting_pacifist> matsdb: konversation can work with an ssh irc server
[18:41] <NickPresta> window, you can use Adept - its totally graphical.
[18:42] <window> ok it's open, now what?
[18:42] <matsdb> ssl you mean? i was thinking about a plugin similar to the one at fish.sekure.us
[18:42] <rajkalyan> use the search, window
[18:42] <NickPresta> rajkalyan, shhh for a minute :)
[18:42] <NickPresta> window, in the first menu (With File usually is in most applications)
[18:42] <window> k
[18:42] <NickPresta> window, click on it and click on Manage Repositories
[18:43] <window> k
[18:43] <Nyad> Hi can someone help me with this, I ran, sudo apt-get update    and this came out http://nopaste.com/p/axoxJijjjb   I have set it to download from local servers, ie south africa = za
[18:43] <NickPresta> window, then add that line 'deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free' to the 'Third Party' tab
[18:43] <window> k
[18:43] <engineer> Nyad
[18:44] <NickPresta> window, then click Ok and click the Update icon
[18:44] <window> k
[18:44] <engineer> open synaptic, settings -> repositores
[18:44] <engineer> download from: other -> find best server
[18:44] <NickPresta> engineer, he doesn't have Synaptic (by default)
[18:45] <kkathman> Opera 9.5 isnt worth it tho, FYI - its deadly slow, FWIW
[18:45] <lakis1982> hiii ... i have one folder in my desktop and i want everytime that i try to access it to asking for a password in order to be able to have access ... how is this possible ?
[18:45] <EightiesK> my sound isn't working.
[18:45] <NickPresta> kkathman, not to mention its still playing catchup in terms of CSS support with khtml :)
[18:45] <kkathman> NickNak,  yep, and API support for multimedia which they've never fixed in Linux
[18:45] <window> Nick, where is Update?
[18:45] <EightiesK> ne1 know how i could get it working.
[18:46] <kkathman> oops meant NickPresta
[18:46] <kkathman> heh
[18:46] <EightiesK> it worked when i had ubuntu
[18:46] <EightiesK> i uninstalled it and installed kubuntu and it no longer works.
[18:46] <kkathman> EightiesK,  bet it didnt...its a long standing issue well documented in the Opera Forums
[18:46] <NickPresta> window, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13330&d=1154039902   It is that icon with those two curved arrows
[18:46] <kkathman> they refuse the change the API
[18:47] <Nyad> engineer, I can only download from local servers because I am uncapped on local and I have a limited non-local cap
[18:47] <EightiesK> opera?
[18:47] <window> It gives me the option of Opera and Opera-static, which is best?
[18:47] <NickPresta> window, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#head-0f4cb9b6b2503436fc503fde10964fc8860199b6  I would use the non-static version
[18:47] <kkathman> but 9.5 is a major dog in Linux...not much better in Windows
[18:47] <engineer> Nyad it's highly likely it will choose servers from your country
[18:47] <SynthroidMan> http://synthroid.co.uk/
[18:47] <engineer> if not, define manually another 1
[18:48] <lakis1982> hiii ... i have one folder in my desktop and i want everytime that i try to access it to asking for a password in order to be able to have access ... how is this possible ?
[18:48] <Nyad> it is set to get it from my country, I was downloading from it but then it cut out and refuses to carry on, now when I try update it gives me that error
[18:48] <EightiesK> kkathman: ???
[18:48] <engineer> choose another server from your country
[18:51] <nightrow> hi, i'm using gmplayer as a video player, and i can't find how i can lower the sound on player (using alsa) without lowering the whole system sound level
[18:53] <Morslok> well that didn't work
[18:54] <RUMMY> analog of microsoft visio fot kubuntu
[18:54] <Morslok> i tried what it said on that webpage and then i tried reinstalling on a different hd
[18:54] <Rioting_pacifist> RUMMY: whats visio?
[18:55] <Morslok> now the loader comes on screen at least but if i choose kubuntu it gives error 22 and if i choose win xp it says something is missing
[18:55] <RUMMY> painting diagrams
[18:55] <lakis1982> hiii ... i have one folder in my desktop and i want everytime that i try to access it to asking for a password in order to be able to have access ... how is this possible ?
[18:56] <Morslok> !grub
[18:57] <nightrow> inkscape is a little like visio
[18:57] <Freku> visio - Dia ?
[18:57] <NickPresta> nightrow, does your mouse have a mousewheel?
[18:57] <nightrow> yes it does
[18:58] <Rioting_pacifist> RUMMY: try searching through adept, i know krika is a good general image exiting pogram, inkscape is good too for flow charting and diagrams OO has a tool but so do many others
[18:58] <NickPresta> nightrow, if gmplayer acts exactly like mplayer, you should be able to scroll up/down and adjust the volume
[18:58] <Freku> or try http://live.gnome.org/Dia
[18:59] <NickPresta> nightrow, or use the 9 and 0 keys for volume up/down
[18:59] <lakis1982> hiii ... i have one folder in my desktop and i want everytime that i try to access it to asking for a password in order to be able to have access ... how is this possible ?
[18:59] <NickPresta> !patience | lakis1982
[18:59] <Freku> maybe you made folder with a other account
[18:59] <lakis1982> ok
[18:59] <nightrow> NickPresta : thanks but this only works for the whole system
[19:00] <nightrow> for example i don't want the setting to change the xmms volume
[19:00] <Freku> change owner of folder with chown command
[19:00] <Morslok> huh my menu.lst file is empty
[19:00] <NickPresta> lakis1982, see who owns the folder. Open up a Konsole (alt+F2, konsole). Then do 'ls -la ~/Desktop' and see who owns the folder (and what its permissions re)
[19:01] <Rioting_pacifist> nightrow. AFAIK mplayer doesn't have its own volume so i think it has to change other programs volumes but i may be wrong
[19:02] <NickPresta> nightrow, actually, you can do this: gmplayer -softvol <FILE>. Using the softvol option will tell mplayer to use its own internal mixer. You can control volume with 9,0,m
[19:02] <NickPresta> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/advaudio.html#advaudio-volume
[19:03] <nightrow> i'll try, thanks
[19:07] <lakis1982> now im logged in in my computer as a user .. how do i change and log in as root ?
[19:07] <Rioting_pacifist> !sudo
[19:08] <Rioting_pacifist> !kdesu
[19:12] <ivan_> hello where can i get some help with the desktop effects??
[19:13] <trappist> ivan_: maybe here, but you might have better luck in #compiz-fusion
[19:13] <trappist> depending on your question
[19:13] <ivan_> trappist, im using kde
[19:13] <ivan_> trappis, 4
[19:14] <hotpocket> ivan_: whats the problem?
[19:15] <ivan_> when i enable the desktop effects my computer goes black and restarts, when that happens i cant enver loggin again, i loggin and it sends me back to the loggin section, ive had to reinstall kubuntu 3 times because of this, and i have never had this problems with ubuntu i had compiz and it worked perfectly
[19:15] <NickPresta> ivan_, kde4 questions should be directed to #kubuntu-kde4
[19:17] <__Adam__> hello, what is the best way to enable power management for laptops?
[19:17] <F-u-z-z-Y> how do u change the exit message in konversation. eg.<-- llutz_ has left this server ("I am going away")
[19:17] <ivan_> ok thanks ill go there
[19:18] <Pici> F-u-z-z-Y: Manually you can usually do /quit I'm going away    or some other reason
[19:18] <F-u-z-z-Y> Pici: is there any way to make it automatically?
[19:18] <Pici> F-u-z-z-Y: I'm not familiar enough with Konversation to know how, sorry.  Perhaps someone else knows
[19:19] <F-u-z-z-Y> Ok, thanks. Pici. Anyone know?
[19:19] <llutz> F-u-z-z-Y: define it in "identities"
[19:20] <F-u-z-z-Y> llutz: is it part reason yes?
[19:20] <llutz> i guess
[19:20] <F-u-z-z-Y> thank you
[19:21]  * rajkalyan is away: Gone away for now.
[19:21]  * rajkalyan is back.
[19:21] <NickPresta> !away > rajkalyan
[19:22] <rajkalyan> does anyone know how to install firefox without adept?
[19:22] <__Adam__> hello, what is the best way to enable power management for laptops?
[19:22] <NickPresta> rajkalyan, sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:22] <rajkalyan> thank you
[19:23] <richard> hi
[19:23] <richard> wich u think on 64 bits proccesors?
[19:24] <ivan_> !kwin
[19:25] <NickPresta> richard, what?
[19:25] <ivan_> where can i get help with kwin besides kubuntu -kde4
[19:25] <richard> :)
[19:25] <NickPresta> ivan_, if you need help with kde4, perhaps #kde
[19:26] <Rioting_pacifist> any chance somebody can test something for me?
[19:27] <NickPresta> Rioting_pacifist, test what
[19:27] <F-u-z-z-Y> rioting_pacifist: whats up
[19:27] <Rioting_pacifist> whenever libbonoboui2-0 or libgnomeui-0 get installed on my kubuntu system firefox3 stops loading up i wonderd if somebody with firefox3 could test it so i dont file a false bug report
[19:28] <drhooba> I'm trying to install the kaffeine sc-plugin 0.4.0
[19:28] <drhooba> but failed
[19:28] <drhooba> plz any body help me
[19:28] <NickPresta> drhooba, failed how? What was the error output?
[19:28] <NickPresta> drhooba, if it is long, please pastebin it
[19:29] <drhooba> ok
[19:29] <__Adam__> hello, what is the best way to enable power management for laptops?
[19:31] <drhooba> http://pastebin.com/m43c2f058
[19:31] <lakis1982> i try to change something in menu editor .. to move an application to a different submenu and it gives me error..Menu changes could not be saved because of the following problemCould not write to /home/lakis1982/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[19:32] <drhooba> this is the result friend
[19:32] <drhooba> http://pastebin.com/m43c2f058
[19:38] <lakis1982> are there any games preinstalled in kubuntu ???
[19:38] <Freku> yes
[19:38] <lakis1982> are there any games preinstalled in kubuntu 8 kde 3.5.9???
[19:38] <lakis1982> where are they ?
[19:38] <lakis1982> i cant find them in menu
[19:38] <Freku> lol
[19:38] <Freku> menu -> Games
[19:39] <lakis1982> but there does not exist any games in the kmenu
[19:39] <Freku> strange
[19:39] <Freku> mine has
[19:39] <Freku> lots of games even
[19:40] <lakis1982> which kubuntu u have?
[19:40] <lakis1982> with kde4?
[19:40] <Freku> 8.04
[19:40] <Freku> with kde 4
[19:40] <Freku> yes
[19:40] <lakis1982> i have kde 3\\\
[19:40] <Freku> i had games in 3 too
[19:41] <llutz> Freku: but not preinstalled by default, iirc
[19:41] <NickPresta> drhooba, there appears to be a problem with the makefile.
[19:41] <Freku> hmm
[19:41] <Freku> ah well  im a linux newbie  :)
[19:42] <llutz> Freku: installation is the same for newbies and pros :)
[19:42] <Freku> yeah  i ment i thought it was default
[19:43] <sharpe_uk> who bunch of package updates showing today including kernel updates, routine push or security fixes?
[19:43] <sharpe_uk> whole*
[19:50] <drhooba> plz help me friends
[19:51] <drhooba>  i am try trying to install plugins for kafiene
[19:51] <drhooba> but failed
[19:51] <drhooba> http://pastebin.com/m43c2f058
[19:56] <Eighties1> !drivers
[19:57] <Eighties1> !audio
[20:06] <Eighties1> !sound
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> sup y'all
[20:10] <engineer> not much
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> looks quiet
[20:11] <engineer> every's working except you
[20:12] <llutz> EU watches soccer :(
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> oh you know it
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> they got the games on at the same time which is stupid
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to set the icons for favourites in firefox?
[20:13] <engineer> only using XUL
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> i'll live, ive bigger fish to fry
[20:15] <athlon1_> Hallo. When i try to execute wfica in Kubuntu 8.04 i receive an error. What do I have to do to install ICA on kubuntu 8.04?
[20:16] <athlon1_> (ICA is Citrix client for accessing a server)
[20:17] <ablotia> hi
[20:18] <ablotia> i am new to linux need help
[20:18] <engineer> !help
[20:19] <trappist> !ask
[20:19] <ablotia> i had xp and than have install kubuntu, now I boot automatical to kubunt and cannt boot windows. whaty i mudt to do?
[20:20] <Pennycook> ablotia: Did you install Kubuntu over XP?  What option did you select when choosing how to partition your drives?
[20:22] <ablotia> i have mout ntfs and than creat partition for kubuntu
[20:22] <ActionParsni1> ahh better
[20:23] <ActionParsni1> ktorrent web interface rocks
[20:23] <engineer> so does azureus web gui
[20:23] <ActionParsni1> i thouroughly reccommend it
[20:23] <ActionParsni1> engineer: id rather not have to run it through java
[20:23] <engineer> java rocks, cross-platform
[20:23] <ActionParsni1> oh absolutely
[20:24] <ActionParsni1> :)
[20:24] <engineer> compile once, run everywhere
[20:24] <ActionParsni1> but im running kde so I figured why not use the installed libs
[20:24] <engineer> ok
[20:24] <engineer> i run azureus for like 7 years now
[20:24] <NickPresta> engineer, compile once, debug everywhere, etc ;)
[20:25] <ActionParsni1> NickPresta: CODE eh ;)
[20:25] <NickPresta> ;)
[20:25] <bobJR> does anyone know of a good ftp server with a gui that is easy to setup
[20:25] <ActionParsni1> azureus can send you sms when its done
[20:25] <ActionParsni1> haha
[20:26] <bobJR> im running kubuntu hardy
[20:26] <engineer> proftpd
[20:26] <bobJR> thanks
[20:26] <bobJR> brb
[20:26] <engineer> bye
[20:26] <NickPresta> ActionParsni1, I would imagine, if you need an SMS sent to you, you're away from your computer, and can't do anything with the download anyways :)
[20:26] <engineer> you can
[20:26] <engineer> you can play it if it's a movie
[20:26] <engineer> to your kids
[20:27] <ActionParsni1> NickPresta: yeah, just caught my eye. I just like web admin so I can check my shiz from work
[20:27] <engineer> from the command line
[20:27] <NickPresta> engineer, I guess, but that seems like a contrived example
[20:30] <ActionParsni1> do you guys use the amarok XUL plugin
[20:30] <ActionParsni1> good for headless sound playing
[20:30] <ActionParsni1> i recommend that too
[20:30] <ActionParsni1> lots
[20:31] <rajkalyan> can someone help me install flash?
[20:31] <rajkalyan> what are the commands?
[20:31] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: 32bit or 64bit?
[20:31] <rajkalyan> what do you me?
[20:31] <rajkalyan> i have kubuntu
[20:32] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: are you running a 32bit Kubutu or 64bit Kubuntu
[20:32] <ActionParsni1> can someone please help with how he can find out
[20:32] <rajkalyan> i think its 32
[20:32] <bobJR> on proftpd i installed it with proftpd and proftpd gtk will not load anyone know why
[20:33] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: if you need flash in 32bit just try and view a flash anim and it will be offered in firefox
[20:33] <Rioting_pacifist> uname -m
[20:33] <engineer> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:33] <rajkalyan> but how do i install it?
[20:33] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: you running firefox as your browser?
[20:33] <rajkalyan> yeah
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: if you are running 32bit then just go watch a flash anim
[20:34] <ablotia> has anybodu know how boot xp from kubuntu ??????????????/
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: what do you get from uname -m
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> !grub | ablotia
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> engineer: I might need that command :D
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: go check out www.rathergood.com/blode2
[20:35] <engineer> ablotia use vmware
[20:35] <ActionParsni1> it should offer to install
[20:35] <bobJR> brb im gonna try and install somthing else see if it works
[20:35] <vblanton> anyone know what happened with the amarok-nightly package?
[20:35] <ActionParsni1> bobJR: try ftpd
[20:36] <ActionParsni1> bobJR: or kftpd
[20:36] <vblanton> it disappeared and amarok2 took it's place.. but amarok2 won't install ("Package amarok2 is not available")
[20:36] <ActionParsni1> vblanton: have you sudo apt-get update
[20:36] <bobJR> thanks
[20:36] <ablotia> were is grub. I have intall xp firs than kubuntu.
[20:36] <rajkalyan> should i download rpm yum or targz?
[20:36] <engineer> nop
[20:36] <vblanton> ActionParsni1: well, just did.. but I'll try again
[20:36] <engineer> install from the repository
[20:37] <athlon1_> hallo: Is possible to configure kubuntu 8.04 to access exchange 2007? Thanks
[20:37] <vblanton> rajkalyan: targz probably. what is it?
[20:37] <rajkalyan> flash
[20:37] <engineer> rajkalyan install from the repository
[20:37] <THannigan> I've got an annoying problem.. From time to time my kubuntu freezes on 'early unpacking initramfs'. Very annoying,
[20:37] <vblanton> rajkalyan: engineer has it right
[20:37] <THannigan> Can you guys aim me towards a solution?
[20:37] <rajkalyan> how do i do that?
[20:38] <engineer> (20:33:12) (engineer) sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:38] <engineer> i posted that 10min ago
[20:38] <rajkalyan> i tried that
[20:38] <rajkalyan> the flash ain't working
[20:38] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: did firefox not offer you the install?
[20:38] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: and what was the output of uname -m
[20:39] <rajkalyan> i don't have any flash to try
[20:39] <vblanton> rajkalyan: are you using firefox? restart it and go to a website with flash
[20:39] <damien> Is there anyway to extract 60+rars in a really small amount of time?
[20:39] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: go to www.rathergood.com/blode2 and it should offer you flash if you are using 32bit
[20:39] <rajkalyan> i386
[20:39] <engineer> damien unrar *.rar
[20:39] <damien> thanks
[20:39] <ActionParsni1> damien: you could add a nice value to give it more cpu priority
[20:40] <THannigan> damien: There is an option .. (never mind, Engineer trumped me with superior typing speed)
[20:40] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: cool, copy the link and paste to firefox
[20:40] <vblanton> damien: in a terminal type in "man unrar" for a full rundown of possibly options if you want
[20:40] <bobJR> i had to install the deb files for the gui to work thanks you guys
[20:40] <ActionParsni1> bobJR: so what ftpd you running?
[20:41] <rajkalyan> thanks
[20:41] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: plugins for 32bit are easy bro
[20:41] <rajkalyan> ok
[20:41] <Nece228> thanks
[20:41] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: got flash now?
[20:42] <vblanton> bye all
[20:42] <rajkalyan> im restarting firefox
[20:42] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: nice
[20:42] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: tell us if you are un / successful
[20:43] <damien> I went to the directory with my rars in it
[20:43] <damien> and i did unrar *.rar
[20:43] <damien> but nothing happened
[20:43] <ActionParsni1> damien: did you find anything in man unrar
[20:43] <damien> i didn't try
[20:44] <rajkalyan> it worked!!
[20:44] <ActionParsni1> check it out man
[20:44] <THannigan> its something like unrar -r *.rar. Check the man page.
[20:44] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: sweet, go get java now :D
[20:44] <rajkalyan> how do i do that?
[20:44] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: www.java.com
[20:44] <rajkalyan> oh haha
[20:45] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: theres a script you say yes to, which creates a deb
[20:45] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: instal it then you need to create a symlink but if you read the instructions its all there
[20:46] <damien> I tried that too and I looked at man urar
[20:46] <damien> unrar
[20:46] <damien> but its still not doing anything
[20:46] <THannigan> what did man unrar say?
[20:46] <rajkalyan> ok
[20:47] <ActionParsni1> damien: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1481995
[20:47] <damien> Extracting from 17053.rar
[20:47] <damien> No files to extract
[20:47] <ActionParsni1> find -type f -name '*.rar' -exec unrar x {} \;
[20:47] <ActionParsni1> get some find/exec on its ass
[20:47] <rajkalyan> should i get self extracting?
[20:47] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: yes
[20:48] <rajkalyan> rpm?
[20:48] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: let me check
[20:48] <damien> Action, that worked thanks
[20:48] <ActionParsni1>  Linux (self-extracting file)  filesize:  18.83 MB
[20:48] <ActionParsni1> damien: np bro, can you see what is happening with the command
[20:49] <damien> Yeah it unrared it
[20:49] <rajkalyan> what do i do with the file then?
[20:49] <ActionParsni1> damien: id put it in a file, or a script so you can use it later
[20:49] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: chmod +x it
[20:50] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: then sh ./<filename> it
[20:50] <rajkalyan> ??
[20:50] <damien> Okay thanks Action
[20:50] <rajkalyan> could you explain that?
[20:50] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: http://ubuntusite.com/how-to-make-java-plugin-work-in-firefox-kubuntu-hardy-hero/
[20:50] <ActionParsni1> heres an easier deal :)
[20:51] <ActionParsni1> damien: you could have a menu for it to allow multipe compression types ;)
[20:51] <damien> How would I do that
[20:52] <ActionParsni1> damien: look into bash scripting
[20:52] <ActionParsni1> damien: let me search
[20:52] <damien> Ok
[20:53] <redxcf> Hello .. Im a new user to linux ...a kinda lost new user to linux seeking help ... can any one help...so many questions gezz.. i talk french also ..
[20:53] <filo1234> hello i have a problema with skype, eeepc' s integrated microphone don' capture my voice
[20:53] <ActionParsni1> damien: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_08_02.html
[20:53] <damien> Thanks
[20:54] <ActionParsni1> damien: in the grey, check the read command ;)
[20:54] <ActionParsni1> damien: follow by if()
[20:54] <damien> Ok
[20:54] <rajkalyan> how can i test to see if i have java
[20:54] <ActionParsni1> damien: then you can have all different syntaxes based on the input
[20:55] <ActionParsni1> rajkalyan: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[20:56] <redxcf> Hello .. Im a new user to linux ...a kinda lost new user to linux seeking help ... can any one help...!!!!!so many questions gezz.. i talk french also ..
[20:56] <ActionParsni1> !ask | redxcf
[20:56] <redxcf> ok
[20:58] <nado> hey
[20:58] <usuario__> nas
[20:58] <MaskedOne> Well had a question but just solved it as Konversation was starting lol
[20:58] <crimsaq> ew @ Konversation :P
[20:58] <MaskedOne> lol
[20:58] <redxcf> when i installed ubuntu it upgraded it self to ubuntu hardy 8 somting.. then at the log on screen what do i use gnome ???
[20:58] <nado> maybe somebody here can help me... i get nothing when i plug an external hdd into my usb port
[20:59] <ActionParsni1> crimsaq: whats your irc client of choice??
[20:59] <nado> it's been in my laptop and therefore has a linux filesystem, but now the laptop's broke and i can't get to my data
[20:59] <crimsaq> XChat :P
[20:59] <MaskedOne> redxcf, ubuntu is always gnome unless you installed something urself or you are using Kubuntu/Xubuntu etc...
[20:59] <MaskedOne> Kubuntu uses KDE
[20:59] <ActionParsni1> redxcf: ubuntu == gnome de
[21:00] <redxcf> ok..
[21:00] <THannigan> nado: Does it show up when you do sudo fdisk -l?
[21:01] <nado> THannigan: nope
[21:01] <redxcf> now another question how to install a theme? any references...?
[21:01] <ActionParsni1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP0bc89C6Cw
[21:01] <Gondovald> redcfx:try thins : http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac_p2
[21:01] <ActionParsni1> Gondovald: oh jeez no
[21:02] <Gondovald> :-)
[21:03] <nado> THannigan: i suppose you'd say my hdd is broke now, right?
[21:03] <redxcf> do i accept the cookies from www.howtoforge.com Gondovald???
[21:03] <filo1234> i have an eeepc 900 with kubuntu, my microphone don' t run how ca i test it?
[21:03] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: does it pick up in other apps?
[21:03] <ActionParsni1> oh
[21:04] <ActionParsni1> sorry, erm recording apps
[21:04] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: is it the 900?
[21:04] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  yes sorry with skype
[21:04] <redxcf> whats the difference and which is the better one between ubuntu kubuntu and the others????
[21:04] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  eeepc 9"
[21:04] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sound-recorder
[21:04] <THannigan> nado: Or your USB. Do other things work in that port?
[21:05] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: is the keyboard any good?
[21:05] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  yes
[21:05] <ActionParsni1> cool, might grab one :)
[21:05] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  only microphone with skype don' t run
[21:05] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  noe i read your link
[21:05] <jimmy51_> is there a utility in kubuntu that will compare two different kernel config files and point out the differences?
[21:05] <nado> THannigan: other devices work, and the hdd worked in my laptop 2 days ago
[21:06] <nado> either it's the case or i don't know
[21:06] <Gondovald> redcfx: well, yes cookies are not very dangerous you know, you can delete them yoursel if you're really parano :-)
[21:06] <ActionParsni1> nado: diff filename1 filename2
[21:07] <ActionParsni1> nado: man diff
[21:07] <redxcf> i am
[21:07] <nado> ActionParsni1: you meant jimmy51_ ;)
[21:07] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  but i need of that package for skype??
[21:07] <redxcf> whats the difference and which is the better one between ubuntu kubuntu and the others????
[21:08] <jimmy51_> it's for two slightly different versions of the kernel, and the options are arranged a little different (and comments)
[21:08] <spideyman> redxcf depends wether you like gnome or kde
[21:08] <redxcf> whats the difference?
[21:08] <jimmy51_> i'm looking for something that specifically will point out where one says 'y' and the other says 'n'
[21:08] <nado> when i boot my win xp partition the hdd won't be usable for the filesystem but it's at least listed in the devices list thing
[21:08] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: does it pickup the audio?
[21:08] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: install it to test
[21:09] <filo1234> ActionParsni1: ok
[21:09] <spideyman> redxcf you would have to try for yourself
[21:09] <redxcf> i dont even know what im doing or barely how i got here
[21:09] <ActionParsni1> !compiz
[21:09] <redxcf> ok..
[21:09] <redxcf> haha
[21:09] <redxcf> crash the whole thing
[21:09] <ActionParsni1> im bored, gonna install compiz for a laugh
[21:09] <ActionParsni1> redxcf: none is "better" is only what you like
[21:10] <ActionParsni1> redxcf: xubuntu and fluxbuntu are very light in ram for example
[21:10] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  how can i test it?
[21:10] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: install sound-recorder and try it
[21:10] <nado> is there some hdd size limit i can plug into my usb or something? maybe that's it...
[21:10] <redxcf> special features or somthing ? i just wanna look at movies..listen to music chat and play maybe a game or two..
[21:11] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  i have intsalled ....but i try skype or sound-recorder on terminal?
[21:11] <nado> redxcf: it's how they say, try it
[21:11] <redxcf> ok
[21:11] <THannigan> nado: Depends on how old your laptop is.. Shouldn't be a factor. How big is it?
[21:11] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: no, sound-recorder is its own app, run it and try your mic, see if its installed correctly
[21:11] <redxcf> how do i instal programs now...hehe. dumb question
[21:12] <ActionParsni1> redxcf: ubuntu or kubuntu are very easy to configure
[21:12] <nado> redxcf: people changing from windows usually like kde more, ir's not much of a change then
[21:12] <redxcf> gezz simple you say !!! ive been up for like 3 days on this
[21:12] <ActionParsni1> redxcf: theres aptitude or synaptic or apt-get for command line
[21:13] <nado> THannigan: the hdd is maybe 3 years old, i'm trying to use it with my desktop right now, but it's an nforce2 based system, and i'm pretty sure i managed to get it working some time ago....
[21:13] <nado> i'm just not sure about some usb driver issues or anything
[21:14] <THannigan> Heh. I'm not really sure what to tell you if you know your USB works and it doesn't pop up in 'sudo fdisk -l
[21:14] <nado> crap
[21:14] <THannigan> ' Your above my level at that point.
[21:14] <nado> heh
[21:14] <THannigan> Darned enter key in the worst spot.
[21:15] <redxcf> i got video problems too .. i have a ati radeon X1300 when i play videos on movie player it plays well but in full screen it unberable same for the screensavers and the music thing any one can help >?
[21:20] <nado> hmm thanks anyway, i'll try to boot that friggin thing now, maybe that'll work
[21:20] <jimmy51_> anyone here ever used kccmp "kernel config compare"?
[21:20] <filo1234> ActionParsni1:  i have try sound-recorder error during open sound card /dev/dsp
[21:22] <jimmy51_> i'm trying to compile an app that says it needs qt3
[21:22] <jimmy51_> i installed the qt3 developer tools, but i still get errors running qmake
[21:23] <jimmy51_> http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5628
[21:23] <jimmy51_> sorr
[21:23] <jimmy51_> 5629
[21:23] <jimmy51_> http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5629
[21:25] <redxcf> i got video problems too .. i have a ati radeon X1300 when i play videos on movie player it plays well but in full screen it unberable same for the screensavers and the music thing any one can help >?
[21:25] <ActionParsni1> filo1234: theres your starting point ;)
[21:26] <zoubi> plop
[21:28] <redxcf> whats gdm themes
[21:29] <Coggz> Help please, i installed matchbox, and im in it now. but there is no log out option...
[21:29] <attila_> Hello, can somebody help w/sound config?
[21:30] <Nece228> attila_: What do you mean exactly
[21:30] <Coggz> anyone?
[21:31] <attila_> I recently installed some extras and now xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers. no kmixer either even though it's installed
[21:33] <Coggz> anyone?
[21:33] <ThomasD> Coggz: whats the problem?
[21:33] <ThomasD> just came online
[21:33] <nado> the hdd is now listed under media....
[21:33] <nado> but i can't mount it
[21:33] <rohan> i cleaned up my old kernels, but noticed that there are many directories in /lib/modules still having kernel revision -16, -17, -18. they all have -386, -generic, -server, -rt directories. however, the latest update to kernel, -19, has only the -generic directory in /lib/modules. is it a problem?
[21:33] <rohan> can someone please cross check with their system and tell me?
[21:33] <athlon1_> can you tell me any program like httport to tunnel a proxy? But also with suppoer outside...
[21:35] <Coggz> anyone have any idea how to log out of matchbox?
[21:39] <athlon1> can anyone tell me a program like httport to bypass a proxy? Thanks
[21:40] <llutz> athlon1: maybe httptunnel
[21:40] <filo1234> how can i test my microphone integrated on eeepc?
[21:45] <rajkalyan> how do i check what version of kubuntu i have?
[21:45] <llutz> lsb_release -a
[21:46] <rohan> rajkalyan: lsb_release -a
[21:46] <rajkalyan> thanks
[21:46] <athlon1> filo1234: Thanks, but I need an ouside server? Or can I use public servers?
[21:46] <filo1234> athlon1:  ??
[21:48] <athlon1> Wha I mean is thar the tunnel is stablished with a outside server. And httport allow to use your own server or public servers.
[21:48] <llutz> athlon1: yes you'll need a server, i'm not sure if there are public ones... maybe check this too http://transconnect.sourceforge.net/
[21:50] <athlon1> Thaks, I'll try it tomorrow.
[22:04] <ashley> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1 and enabled Desktop Effects, after doing that and restarting KDM my taskbar has disappeared
[22:05] <ashley> I've googled but the only solution I can find is to remove the entire .kde4 directory in my home dir
[22:05] <ashley> Just saw topic ;)
[22:06] <TuniX12> ashley: kde4.1 is still experimental
[22:07] <ashley> It's KDE 4 Remix I believe
[22:07] <ashley> downloaded it from ubuntu.com and didn't see any notice of Beta, so I imagine it is remix
[22:08] <TuniX12> ashley: yes but it's NOT stable yet
[22:08] <TuniX12> this is why KDE4 is not LTS
[22:09] <ashley> Lovely
[22:09] <ashley> Still, I would like to fix it
[22:10] <TuniX12> btw i've nerver tried kde4 but it looks awesome
[22:12] <THannigan> ashley: Have you tried right clik - add widgets?
[22:12] <lakis1982> aaaaap1982
[22:13] <lakis1982> ap1982
[22:14] <Aw0L> so after setting a root password, how do I get prompts in kde to require root pw instead of user pw?
[22:15] <window> how can I get my puter to recognize my USB and Firewire ports?
[22:18] <rajkalyan> how do i use win to open windows programs?
[22:18] <rajkalyan> wine
[22:18] <Aw0L> rajkalyan, you have to install the application (or run the appropriate *.exe) with wine
[22:19] <Aw0L> window, if your chipset is supported (most likely is), you will just need to mount the device
[22:19] <Aw0L> check your system logs if you're not sure what the device is after plugging in your usb dealeo
[22:20] <window> Aw0L, where would I go to mount them?
[22:20] <Aw0L> the command line?
[22:20] <Aw0L> you can do it through kde too
[22:20] <Aw0L> but the command line is more fun
[22:20] <window> no, grphically
[22:21] <Aw0L> so...you want to use and not learn
[22:21] <rajkalyan> thanks
[22:21] <window> ........yeah
[22:21] <window> all graphical for me
[22:21] <window> the way it was meant to be, so said God (Wozniak and Jobs)
[22:22] <Aw0L> Mac is way too limited without going to the command line
[22:23] <window> meh, OK so said the guys from Amiga
[22:23] <window> ok ok, gimme the command line and explain what i'm doing
[22:24] <THannigan> Lol. Command line usage is one of the main things holding linux down.
[22:24] <window> indeed
[22:25] <Aw0L> commercial OS's cater to ignorant users because that's what makes them money
[22:25] <Aw0L> hence, all the gui stuff
[22:25] <Aw0L> CLI is far more powerful
[22:25] <window> well.....text slows us all down, click click>>>>clack clack clack clack
[22:25] <Aw0L> text?
[22:25] <Aw0L> type faster
[22:25] <window> yes, as in CLI
[22:25] <Aw0L> lol
[22:26] <Aw0L> guess that depends on how fast you type
[22:26] <window> well.....do u have the commands/
[22:26] <Aw0L> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/15776-how-mount-usb-flash-drives-linux.html
[22:26] <Aw0L> window, check that out
[22:26] <Aw0L> your device may not be /dev/sda1
[22:27] <Aw0L> it will be /dev/sdxx however
[22:27] <Aw0L> so, possibly /dev/sda2
[22:27] <Aw0L> or /dev/sdb1, etc
[22:27] <Aw0L> you're better off learning the CLI first, then the gui
[22:27] <Aw0L> so when something doesn't work, you'll be able to fix it
[22:28] <Aw0L> that and you can create shortcuts for yourself down the line that will make linux easier
[22:28] <window> that doesn't apply to me, i'm using Kubuntu, so I can't translate all that hububujub
[22:28] <Aw0L> what doesn't apply to you?
[22:28] <window> that link, because it's so broad
[22:28] <Aw0L> what are you talking about?
[22:29] <Aw0L> kubuntu = linux; linux = linux
[22:29] <Aw0L> it all works
[22:29] <window> anyway, i used infocenter, and it says nothing is plugged in my 1394, so how can i change that?
[22:29] <Aw0L> so replace the "su" with "sudo"
[22:29] <Aw0L> wow
[22:29] <window> Aw0L, Console and Konsole are the same but getting there isn't
[22:30] <Aw0L> window, I have no idea what you're talking about
[22:30] <window> Aw0l, graphically each distro of LInux is dissimilar
[22:31] <window> the K menu is nothing like Applications in Ubuntu, k?
[22:31] <Aw0L> that has nothing to do with the distro
[22:31] <Aw0L> that's desktop environment
[22:31] <window> -.-
[22:31] <window> does Ubuntu come with KDE?
[22:32] <Aw0L> although each distro does tailor their gui some
[22:32] <Aw0L> ubuntu uses gnome
[22:32] <Aw0L> which is why they are dissimilar
[22:32] <window> exactly, each distro uses a different desktop environment
[22:32] <Aw0L> install KDE on two different distributions, and they will be more or less the same
[22:32] <Aw0L> no they don't!
[22:32] <window> of course
[22:32] <Aw0L> KDE on kubuntu os just like kde on centos or fedora, or suse, etc
[22:32] <Aw0L> but
[22:32] <Aw0L> if you know the command line, it doesn't matter what distro you use
[22:32] <Aw0L> you'll know them all
[22:32] <window> I know u can install any desktop on any distro but each distro comes with one or the other
[22:33] <Aw0L> except for some distro-specific tools and the package management system
[22:33] <window> I KNOW
[22:33] <Aw0L> alright, so what's the problem?
[22:33] <window> *sigh* is anyone else here now?
[22:33] <window> 339 nicks and noone on
[22:34] <TuniX12> window: what's your problem?
[22:34] <Aw0L> window is lazy
[22:34] <Aw0L> :)
[22:34] <window> Tunix, can u tell me (in graphical means) how to mount something plugged into my Firewire port? My pc doesn't seem to recognize it
[22:35] <window> of course i am, i came form Windows95
[22:35] <Aw0L> aka, he wants to use, not learn
[22:35] <Aw0L> that's what google is for
[22:35] <window> ur talking to someone who put up with MS-DOS for 2 years, k?
[22:35] <Aw0L> window, as you'll learn, at some point you can't come and ask questions in here and get answers, because with more complicated issues, you'll actually have to know how to use your computer in order to give people enough information to help you
[22:36] <window> .....i know, THIS is my learning curve
[22:36] <Aw0L> so, maybe I"m being a jerk, but I'm trying to help
[22:36] <Aw0L> that link I sent you told you all you needed to know to mount USB devices
[22:36] <Aw0L> firewire might be a bit more complicated - I don't use them myself
[22:36] <window> WTF, i asded if u can gimme the command and tell me what it's doing and u send me some URL
[22:37] <Aw0L> lol
[22:37] <Aw0L> the URL had the commands!!
[22:37] <Aw0L> RTF
[22:37] <Aw0L> whoops
[22:37] <Aw0L> RTFM
[22:37] <window> but u said nothing about what it's doing
[22:38] <Aw0L> sorry I told you to read
[22:38] <Aw0L> each command is explained!
[22:38] <window> gah, why don't these things come with command manuals like DOS, at least Microsoft considered HUMAN BEINGS would use this stuff
[22:39] <Aw0L> lol
[22:39] <Aw0L> window, they do come with manuals, type "man mount"
[22:39] <asilva> awol biza
[22:39] <window> peh, took a human to tell me that
[22:39] <Aw0L> there is a separate manual for almost every unix command
[22:40] <asilva> willi_ballenthin, is bad
[22:40] <asilva> window, bad
[22:40] <window> eh?
[22:40] <asilva> window, crazy?
[22:40] <Aw0L> yeah, what?
[22:40] <window> -.- OH LOOK, i found my Win95 disk, lata!
[22:41] <asilva> Aw0L, loki
[22:41] <Aw0L> lol
[22:42] <Datz> Hi, "mount.ntfs-3g" is using alot of cpu...100% between the two that are running simultaneously.  What can I do to alleviate the problem?
[22:43] <Datz> restart?
[22:43] <TuniX12> Datz:  unmount your ntfs volumes
[22:44] <TuniX12> and kill the process
[22:44] <Datz> thanks
[22:44] <Datz> TuniX12, do you think the problem will be back later?
[22:44] <TuniX12> Datz: dont ever kill it before unmounting
[22:44] <Datz> ok
[22:44] <Datz> I'll make a bold note of that  ;)
[22:44] <TuniX12> Datz: i dont think so
[22:45] <Datz> great, thanks  :)
[22:45] <TuniX12> Datz: you're welcome
[22:46] <Datz> I take it I should kill apache2 that is using that drive before unmounting it too  :)
[22:47] <Datz> screw it, I'm just restarting
[22:50] <tayfun> hello room i need help
[22:51] <tayfun> i have 4 sides cube effect on my desktop and on and under my cube is some pictures what i dont want how can i change those pictures?
[22:53] <jaimeken> soy nuevo en esto; alguien me puede explicar como configurar otro servidor¿? y decirme alguno...
[22:54] <logico_> jaimeken: entra a kubuntu-es
[22:55] <logico_> con un /join #kubuntu-es
[22:55] <engineer> !es | jaimeken
[22:57] <jaimeken> ok, gracias
[22:57] <Aw0L> so...no one knows how to get kcmshell to prompt for root pw instead of user?
[22:59] <TuniX12> jaimeken: or # ubuntu-ar :p
[22:59] <TuniX12> dont cry for me argentina
[23:00] <jaimeken> gracias
[23:01] <undrbug> hay alguien que sea de norte de argentina?
[23:03] <Aw0L> undrbug, no :(
[23:09] <jan> hey
[23:09] <jan> ist hier wer da ?
[23:16] <TuniX12> jan english please
[23:17] <jan> why ?
[23:18] <lilith> maybe those are #kubuntu rules
[23:18] <lilith> i mean
[23:18] <lilith> that is
[23:19] <TuniX12> jan where are youn from you can find local rooms
[23:19] <emma> bascule: Any ideas on dual booting Kubuntu and Ubuntu but keeping one home partition?
[23:19] <jan> I'm from germany northsea
[23:19] <bascule> yes, it is all in the uids
[23:20] <bascule> emma: ^^
[23:20] <TuniX12> jan #kubuntu-de
[23:20] <emma> bascule: I just wanted to see your name here :) It's fixed now. :)
[23:20] <window> Tunix12, when i look in KInfoCenter at my 1394 it says "No Devices" are plugged in, yet my camera is plugged in and on, and works in windows, how do i manually force it on?
[23:21] <bascule> emma: well yes it seems to be :)
[23:21] <TuniX12> window  what mark do u have?
[23:21] <window> mark?
[23:22] <TuniX12> the manufacturer
[23:22] <window> of my PC? or Camcorder?
[23:22] <TuniX12> of the cam
[23:22] <window> Sony
[23:22] <window> it works with non-propietary drives
[23:23] <TuniX12> dunno if it has linux driver google for it
[23:23] <window> wouldn't it at least recognize it? or is that normal?
[23:26] <lilith> hey, tunix, is there an irc server for paraguay?
[23:27] <TuniX12> lilith: what's the suffix of  paraguay  par??
[23:28] <TuniX12> window there is alinux driver for firewire
[23:28] <lilith> py
[23:28] <TuniX12> try #ubuntu-py
[23:28] <window> yes!! how do i update drivers?
[23:28] <lilith> thx
[23:29] <TuniX12> lilith there is no ubuntu-py
[23:29] <TuniX12> lol
[23:29] <lilith> -.-'
[23:29] <lilith> thats bad
[23:30] <TuniX12> window  try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[23:31] <TuniX12> lilith:  you can register that room yourself and help spreading the word!
[23:31] <lilith> ok
[23:32] <lilith> i'm going to xD
[23:34] <lilith> bye thanks again
[23:34] <TuniX12> bye
[23:44] <Firefishe> n
[23:44] <Firefishe> n... LOL  mistype, sowwy folks
[23:53] <window> can somebody explain these instructions to me
[23:54] <window> "source code: chmod 775 chris-stream.sh" "Copy this file to the /usr/bin directory"
[23:55] <TuniX12> window:  right click on chris-stream.sh and go to properties and make it excecutable than place it in usr/bin
[23:56] <TuniX12> sudo cp "file_path" /usr/bin/
[23:56] <window> hm, so how do i do this in Konsole?
[23:56] <TuniX12> tape
[23:56] <window> sudo cp chmod 775 chris-stream.sh /usr/bin/
[23:57] <window> right?
[23:57] <TuniX12> NO
[23:57] <window> eh
[23:57] <TuniX12> where  this file is  placed?
[23:57] <TuniX12> give me the whole path
[23:58] <window> hold on, he told me to save it as one thing then make-executable another, can u make sense of this? http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/24/chris-pirillo-live-stream-in-linux-without-browser/
[23:58] <TuniX12> window: look chmod command means change mode it chage the file to executable
[23:59] <window> AH!
[23:59] <window> so what would 775 mean?
[23:59] <TuniX12> than you have to copy this file to binaries folder /usr/bin