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ChrisC35hey Daviey00:17
DavieyChrisC35: :)00:19
ChrisC35hey - on that page in followed the instructions for 'obtaining the driver'  - the last step run 'modprobe cx18' i just typed modprobe cx18 and nothing is outputed. does that sound normal?00:20
ChrisC35just back to command prompt\00:20
ChrisC35this is the page again: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx1800:21
superm1abarbaccia, try looking in the amd control centre00:22
superm1for what monitors it sees connected00:22
DavieyChrisC35: no output from modprobe $module is good00:22
Davieymeans it successfully loaded00:23
ChrisC35ok - do I have to follow the instructions for 'Firmware' ?00:23
Davieyprobably00:26
ChrisC35whats wierd is it says it needs to be extracted from teh windows driver00:28
DavieyChrisC35: yeah, it's the firmware00:34
Davieyas itisn't on their site, or in the restricted ubuntu package yet00:35
* Daviey --> bed00:42
ChrisC35what is firmware exactly?00:42
ChrisC35ok , well thanks for your help00:42
hadsMythbuntuControlCentre/core.py breaks if there's an empty line in your passw - not sure why there was an empty line in my passwd.00:53
ChrisC35hi01:30
ChrisC35for these instructions: Unzip, then copy the following files to the firmware directory and rename them as follows:01:31
ChrisC35Drivers/Driver18/hcw18apu.rom -> v4l-cx23418-apu.fw01:31
ChrisC35from this page: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx1801:31
ChrisC35i'm not quite following - i get to copy the file, but where to I cophy it to? is the 'v4l - ' part of the new filename? or a reference to where it is going? where is the firmware directory in mythbuntu?01:32
superm1hads, can you file a bug?01:37
superm1and/or patch ;)01:37
ChrisC35i think i did it01:38
hadssuperm1: I will once I can figure out why I can't launch it anymore :)01:48
hadssuperm1: Bug #24027501:58
superm1thanks hads01:58
hadsNP01:58
hadsIs there a recommended way to run MCC via SSH?02:01
superm1you need a -X and a -Y02:02
superm1if you are having crash problems, then run it like this:02:02
superm1sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre02:02
hadsYeah, I thought just forwarding would do it. Seems I'm missing xorgconfig02:03
superm1are you on intrepid or hardy?02:03
hadsJust hardy02:03
superm1okay (phew)02:04
superm1i know there is going to be breakage with that on intrepid02:04
hadsI'm contemplating moving to a package install but alredy have quote a bit of existing source setup.02:04
superm1ah that's why you are missing xorgconfig :)02:04
superm1the dependencies get a little wacky when you dont add it all in together02:05
hadsI just installed mythbuntu-control-centre02:05
superm1yeah, xorgconfig usually comes in with displayconfig-gtk02:05
hadsWanted to have a play with it :)02:05
superm1which is by default on most ubuntu installs02:05
superm1and on mythbuntu installs02:05
superm1it should be a default on mythbuntu-control-centre install, but it looks like forgot to put that dependency in02:06
hadsAh great thanks, I was having trouble finding the package.02:06
superm1if that's all that's causing your bug, its at least an easy fix02:06
superm1kde-guidance provides it02:06
hadsI can't remember what install disk was used for this box, it wasn't a desktop install from memory and it's been upgraded since.02:07
hadsSo probably not your normal target02:07
hadsYeah, pulling in displayconfig-gtk fixed it.02:08
abarbacciasuperm1: back to my hdmi problem -- catalyst controller sees the monitor but says connection is DVI. I'm using a HDMI->DVI cable to test...02:47
superm1abarbaccia,so that sounds accurate02:47
superm1you just need to enable the second monitor via the catalyst control center02:48
abarbacciabut why no picture then...02:48
abarbaccia2nd monitor?02:48
abarbacciathere's only one...02:48
superm1how did you look at catalyst control center then?02:51
abarbacciasuperm1: vnc ;-)02:58
superm1ah okay02:58
superm1so does it claim that the monitor is "enabled"?02:59
abarbacciasuperm1: yes.03:00
abarbacciaand when the machine is starting up hdmi works (see txt, and mythbuntu logo, etc)03:00
superm1then check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:00
abarbacciathen when driver loads and x starts, it dies03:00
superm1and see if it sees any weird stuff about the EDID03:00
superm1or anything out of place03:00
superm1try to change the resolution in the catalyst control center too03:01
superm1i would be willing to bet there is something here that is invalid with the EDID causing no picture to show up03:01
superm1probably a refresh rate or something similar03:01
superm1if you actually have a TV with real HDMI you should have better luck03:01
abarbacciasuperm1: goti t03:01
superm1the open source driver likely isn't exploiting the full value that the EDID claims03:01
abarbacciait was sending an unusable resolution03:01
abarbacciadude, u always seem to be about 10 minutes ahead of me03:02
abarbacciadamn t03:02
abarbacciait03:02
abarbaccialol03:02
superm1haha03:03
superm1i've probably just messed with a lot of this stuff for too long03:03
abarbacciawell, ydm (you da man) ;-)03:04
superm1hey so did you have luck with your IR blaster?03:04
abarbacciai haven't been able to test it yet03:05
superm1mine was working for a little bit for reception, but then just stopped03:05
abarbacciathe internal usb?03:05
superm1i wasn't able to blast with it at all when it stopped03:05
superm1the external usb one03:05
abarbacciareally?03:05
superm1yeah i have no idea what happened03:05
abarbacciai've used external one back a few months ago and it worked fine03:05
superm1well this is brand new hardware03:05
abarbacciahad a customer controlling 6 cable boxes with 2 of them03:05
abarbacciaahhh03:05
superm1so it's possible a hardware defect in this blaster03:05
superm1remember they're beta :)03:06
abarbacciatrue03:06
abarbacciahahaha right03:06
abarbacciaim trying to get the hvr1600s to work03:06
superm1i'd hate if i ended up exposing that03:06
abarbacciahahahaha yeah03:06
abarbacciahopefully its just a driver modification, ya know03:06
superm1well getting that lirc package built with his driver was a pain in the ass03:06
superm1when it really shouldn't have been03:06
abarbacciayeah03:07
superm1it was silly little things related to the Makefile and configure script that would be handled automatically by CVS03:07
superm1but not by a released version03:07
abarbacciaahh03:07
abarbacciayeah, that lirc package is a mess03:07
abarbacciamodifying it is terribly complicated03:07
superm1i dont know if its worthwhile to try to get debian to sync up with us03:07
superm1i doubt they will want to now03:07
superm1there is no chance we'll just switch to them now as there is too much logic built into that postinst03:08
abarbacciainto our postinst?03:08
superm1yeah03:09
superm1that's where a ton of magic happens03:09
abarbacciaright - seems like too much is happening with the package03:09
abarbacciaright all the lirc logic bugs that are sitting in my inbox03:09
abarbacciaso wheres the project to proceed?03:10
abarbacciaits like everything is starting to have remotes these days03:10
abarbacciaso receiving is becoming critically important03:10
superm1well there are a lot of independent efforts going on03:12
superm1but they are all making really slow progress03:12
abarbacciaindependent efforts? what do u mean?03:12
superm1because they are all making slow progress, that's why I jumped the gun to write the logic we have now and to include lirc in LUM03:12
superm11) getting lirc included in the kernel03:12
superm12) custom ui for new remotes03:12
superm13) custom UI for configuring lirc03:12
superm14) standardization of remote button naming03:13
abarbaccia4 is critical03:13
superm1well so you can either try to improve current integration here or you can try to fix the general problem03:13
abarbacciabc that could remove an entire configuration file03:13
superm1in the effort of time, the former is easier03:14
superm1and once the former is sane, the latter is more feasible03:14
abarbacciaagreed with the approach03:14
abarbacciaits just so difficult because the number of remotes out there, no way to autodetect, etc03:14
superm1well the best thing is to get any of the remotes that you are normally working with/selling working03:15
superm1and then let people file bugs on the others03:15
superm1you can also try to sell remotes that are functional as kernel devices directly already03:15
abarbacciaright but does that effort get invested into packaging, or figuring another way to configure03:15
superm1any of the Dell laptops these days that come with a remote, they are purely kernel devices03:15
superm1it's great, and they work in any app then without worrying with LIRC03:16
abarbacciasee, that's what i was wondering...is lirc really needed for remotes03:16
superm1well right now that effort should get invested into packaging and i think03:16
superm1because that "other" way to configure is a separate problem03:16
superm1at least in the current day03:16
abarbacciagotcha03:18
abarbacciau see the specs on the new Eee?03:18
superm1yeah i've been pointed at them03:19
superm1i will end up with other product(s) instead later this year that i'll be buying though :)03:19
abarbacciayeah03:20
abarbacciai just like this new class of netbooks03:20
abarbacciai think its a cool toy03:20
superm1the atom can almost handle playing HD too03:20
superm1on myth that is03:20
abarbacciag'damn!03:20
abarbacciah.264?03:20
superm1i haven't messed with h264 on it at all03:21
abarbacciaah nice03:21
abarbacciaalright another problem03:21
superm1just high res mpeg2 stuff it just barely skips a bit03:21
superm1and its just myth that skips03:21
superm1playing in totem-xine it's smooth03:21
abarbacciai hate that that happens03:21
superm1yeah me too03:21
superm1it reminds me how much i hate that ffmpeg is different in different projects03:21
abarbacciais that what it is?03:22
superm1well i like to blame that03:22
superm1but i dont know for sure03:22
abarbacciahahaha03:22
abarbacciayeah, i was wondering if there was a way to use different "engines" kinda like with audio03:22
superm1i've heard it is because of how QT is used inefficiently in myth03:22
superm1and then i've heard that there are too many threads running at the same time in myth03:22
superm1i've heard all these different things, but nothing definitive03:22
abarbacciamyth does seem a bit bloated these days03:22
superm1the guy who works on mythbuntu on appletv said that he will go through and clean up some of the code in myth to get rid of the inefficiencies that stand out03:23
abarbacciai mean ,setting scope at "mythical convergence box" would tend to do that03:23
abarbacciainteresting03:23
superm1because its the same way on apple tv, just barely there03:23
abarbacciaah, that would be awesome03:23
abarbacciagreat as a media extender03:23
superm1the nice thing is that all the lpia stuff is already built for hardy too03:24
abarbacciaalright - next question03:24
superm1so if you get an atom based box, you can just install ubuntu lpia on it and myth from the repos03:24
abarbacciaoh sweet03:24
superm1(assuming it doesn't already come with an ubuntu lpia based install) ;)03:24
abarbacciacool03:24
abarbacciai bought an hvr1600003:25
abarbaccia160003:25
abarbacciaand i get it almost working03:25
abarbacciaat my desk03:25
abarbacciawhen i plug in at tv, it refuses to boot03:25
abarbacciahangs at the bios03:25
abarbacciaif i take the card out, no problems03:25
superm1so where's it hang at the TV?03:25
superm1and i'm assuming these are two different computers03:25
foxbuntusuperm1, the PVR-150MCE has been end of life'd :( (along with all of their other analog tuners)03:25
superm1at your desk and tv03:25
superm1foxbuntu, well the HVR950 is just about supported03:26
superm1so it will make a good replacement03:26
superm1i believe03:26
superm1once the rest of the support is ready03:26
foxbuntuthats the NTSC/ATSC hybrid right?03:26
abarbacciasuperm1: its the same box!03:26
superm1abarbaccia, also i'm working on getting coreavc based myth packages ready03:26
superm1so that should help a bit at least when messign with the h264 stuff03:27
superm1ls03:27
superm1oops :)03:27
abarbacciasuperm1: very nice! those will be greatly appreciated03:27
superm1foxbuntu, yes03:27
foxbuntusuperm1, I will be ordering my HD PVR this week if your interested03:27
superm1foxbuntu, yeah i'd like to hear how your hardware handles with it03:28
superm1but remember there are no myth patches ready yet03:28
superm1so you'll just be able to capture and do some basic testing at this point03:28
foxbuntusuperm1, thats ok...I will have a machine to test the SVN trunk code on03:29
rhpot1991foxbuntu: what cpu does your HD playback box have?03:30
superm1foxbuntu, it's not even in SVN trunk03:30
superm1it's not there yet, period03:30
abarbacciasuperm1: and it hangs at the bios at POST i believe03:30
superm1the patches will be to -fixes though too eventually03:30
superm1abarbaccia, well that's very bizarre then03:30
abarbacciayes, i am completely confused03:31
superm1you have some other hardware by the TV?03:31
superm1usb stuff, different keyboard mouse03:31
superm1anything like that03:31
abarbacciaeverythign is unplugged03:31
foxbunturhpot1991, right now its not big enough, its a single core 3400+03:31
foxbunturhpot1991, however I am placing the order for my dev hardware later this week and an HD PVR is on the list03:32
superm1abarbaccia, did you make sure to take the gremlins out of the box before you started?03:32
rhpot1991foxbuntu: 5000+ x2?03:32
foxbunturhpot1991, I am going to test 4 procs and benchmark them (5000+ X2, Phenom 9750 X4, Intel E8600 and Q6600)03:32
abarbacciasuperm1: foxbuntu: HVR950 doesn't have QAM support?03:34
rhpot1991foxbuntu: excellent, let me know how the 5000+x2 does with it03:34
rhpot1991abarbaccia: nope03:34
rhpot1991err wait03:34
superm1abarbaccia, sure it does03:34
rhpot1991thought you asked hdhr03:34
superm1they just dont advertise it that way usually03:34
foxbunturhpot1991, no problem...I am using the same board and ram for each proc (obviously an intel board for the intel procs)03:35
abarbacciasuperm1: im reading reviews right now, only OTA, no QAM03:35
superm1i've got one sitting on my desk right now that says QAM on the back of it03:35
foxbuntuso my test results should be based on proc bottleneck only03:35
superm1i haven't actually tested the QAM, but it says it should.  also the guy i got it from told me it should work with QAM even though a lot of reviews say otherwise03:36
abarbacciamaybe error is between users chair and keyboard?03:36
rhpot1991"Comcast plans to drop all analog service by 2010 and other cable providers are expected to follow depending on how successful Comcast is.  Between Comcast's move to switched digital video and dropping analog service its going to be harder and harder to keep running a Mythtv box."03:36
rhpot1991blah03:36
superm1yeah i heard that too03:36
rhpot1991looks like I need to get me some $40 coupons03:36
abarbacciaballsy03:36
* foxbuntu bashes head against wall....03:37
superm1rhpot1991, so with that, there is the option that they might choose to actually just open more stations03:37
superm1but that's only if enough people complain i bet03:37
rhpot1991open via, qam?03:38
superm1yeah03:39
superm1wouldn't that just be awesome?03:39
rhpot1991you'd have a better chance getting working firewire :)03:40
superm1haha03:40
rhpot1991speaking of which ever get anywhere with that?03:40
superm1i can always dream03:40
rhpot1991also did you ever use your $40 coupons?03:40
superm1i'm gonna use them this month hopefully03:40
superm1they're on my todo list still03:40
superm1i haven't gotten any further or bothered much more with them03:40
superm1not worth it03:40
rhpot1991I have some analog tv's I have no interest in putting any money at all into03:40
rhpot1991bah cable boxes didn't work again03:43
* rhpot1991 curses comcast03:44
foxbuntusuperm1, did you get your commandir II mini working?03:47
superm1foxbuntu, just the same as i mentioned the other day03:48
superm1haven't messed since03:48
* foxbuntu is going to load the lirc from ppa tonight03:48
foxbuntusuperm1, alright03:48
foxbuntuwell guys I am going to pack up and head home...be back in 45 mins to an hour03:48
foxbuntulater03:48
darthanubisI deleted channels from SD, but they still appear in my listing04:32
darthanubisI once had it where they no longer showed but I forget how to do it again04:32
darthanubismissed the help bus again04:35
darthanubissuperm1, still up?04:35
rhpot1991darthanubis: check the man page I think there is an update channels option for mythfilldatabase04:37
abarbacciamythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates04:37
darthanubissorry you think I'm that green04:37
darthanubisbut that option has left me wanting04:37
darthanubisall that seemed to do was remove the data, not the channel listing for some reason04:39
darthanubisI'm running it again, like I did a month agao, and just now, and since you typed it04:39
darthanubisand the channels are still there04:40
darthanubisso now I'm going to attemtp to remove and readd the source04:41
rhpot1991delete your channels and refetch them from the source04:45
darthanubisthat did the trick, thx for the reply04:52
rhpot1991np04:54
darthanubisdoes totem play mythtv recordings for anyone?05:15
darthanubisI've given up on it as far as that goes05:15
darthanubisit just errors data stream empty05:15
darthanubishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/23780105:17
abarbacciai had it playing at one point05:19
ChrisC35i have got my tv card recognized in mythtv setup, and scanned for channels successfully. But when i return to the front end, and select 'watch tv' , nothing happens.06:24
Solarbabymaybe your using the wrong encoder06:25
Solarbabyperhaps your tv card wont use the default jtpeg or whatever, and its actually an mpeg encoder06:25
Solarbabytry changing that06:25
ChrisC35um hmm\06:29
ChrisC35it is an hvr-160006:29
SolarbabyI dont have that card06:30
ChrisC35i installed the beta driver http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx1806:30
ChrisC35it seems to recognize the card now and scans for channels etc06:30
Solarbabyright on06:30
ChrisC35i'm not sure what you mean about changing it to an mpeg encoder, or the encoder06:30
ChrisC35where is that set?06:31
Solarbabystill.. check the encoder settings..  check to make sure your using the right connection output in the software06:31
Solarbabyits all in the gui..06:31
ChrisC35i'll try to find it\06:32
Solarbabygood hunting06:32
ChrisC35dammit i hate this laptop keyboard i always hit \ beside the enter key06:32
ChrisC35where is the connection output?06:34
ChrisC35do you mean in mythtv setup? or front end settings?06:35
Solarbabyjust look everywhere.. it can't take you more then 5 minutes06:41
ChrisC35i'm not really sure where you are referring to, i've looked everywhere06:58
ChrisC35i think i'll just buy a new tv tuner. what would any of you reccomend?07:32
Ace2016Does a dvi cable to link say a pc to an lcd have male connectors at both ends?10:01
Jakalyes10:27
Jakalwhile im here i was wondering if anyone could help me,10:28
Jakali have mythbuntu installed fine. everything works.10:28
Jakalexcept when i go to the program guide the controls lock up.10:29
Jakalthe live tv is still playing in the corner. the pc hasnt frozen. i just lose control10:29
hadsKeyboard? Remote? Telnet?10:30
Jakali havent tried telnet or ssh.10:30
hadsSo, Keyboard? Remote?10:30
Jakalbut keyboard and remote stop controling mythtv10:31
Jakalwell to be most precise i can control it for about 2 seconds after i go into the guide. then it locks up10:31
hadsIf it were me I would ssh in and run a tail -f on the frontend log to see if anything is logged when it happens.10:31
Jakalwheres it keep the frontend log?10:32
hadsI believe it's in /var/log/mythtv/10:33
Jakalah there it is10:34
Jakalok well when i press the guide button while watching tv i get this10:36
Jakal"XMLParse::LoadTheme using /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus/ui.xml"10:36
Jakalbut when it finaly freezes nothing comes up.10:37
happyDaisyHas anyone had any experience getting the Compro T750F working with V4L (as compared to the Compro T750?10:37
hadsSo it actually locks up? Or can you still access it via SSH10:37
Jakalssh still works10:37
hadsRun top and see what's doing what.10:38
Jakali have no idea whats going on with top.10:39
hadsAt a guess you may be hitting an X driver bug or something. That's about all I've got.10:40
Jakalvideo driver maybe? i dunno what driver would do that10:42
Jakalim gonna see if it does it without having live tv play in the corner10:42
Jakalnope. it only does it while playing live tv in the corner10:43
Ace2016Hi all12:54
Ace20162008-06-16 14:05:27.987 TV Error: Failed to get recording show list14:05
Ace2016I keep getting this error when trying to run mythtv14:05
Ace2016mythfrontend worke14:06
Ace2016s14:06
Ace2016worked*14:06
Ace2016Where are the mythtv plugin options?14:36
Ace2016for example the dvd and vcd options are missing and i made nice icons for those :(14:37
Ace2016My dvd playback is messed up15:24
Ace2016http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03oo0.png15:24
Ace2016see15:24
bahadunnhow is ati support in mythbuntu?16:32
Pat_from_TLLTShello17:57
Pat_from_TLLTSanybody get their Happauge HD-PVR 1212 working in Linux yet?17:57
trillexHey - what would be the easiest way to make a Windows Vista share accessible to mythbuntu? My series and videos are on my main stationary.18:26
trillexGoogle doesn't provide much help18:26
Balachmarhi, is it possible to use lvm from the mythbuntu live cd installer?18:30
Balachmarok, I now understand that I can also use storage groups18:36
Balachmarbut how should I have the mount points when partitioning?18:36
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cropalatohi, where can i get some doc that show me how can i use the myth tv to get internet tv channels? Anybody can help me?21:25
tgm4883_laptopcropalato, try using mythstream21:27
cropalatotgm4883_laptop, thanks21:27
trillexHey - what would be the easiest way to make a Windows Vista share accessible to mythbuntu? My series and videos are on my main stationary.21:30
tgm4883_laptoptrillex, mount them via cifs21:31
trillexCan you be a bit more throughout? A bit new and totally blue to this sort of thing.21:31
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lightdarknessSeveral times now while watching TV or recordings, my screen will just go black.  The audio will keep going, and the controls still work (like exiting out of tv), but there's no output to my TV... is there anything I can do to troubleshoot the problem?23:49

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