[00:17] hey Daviey [00:19] ChrisC35: :) [00:20] hey - on that page in followed the instructions for 'obtaining the driver' - the last step run 'modprobe cx18' i just typed modprobe cx18 and nothing is outputed. does that sound normal? [00:20] just back to command prompt\ [00:21] this is the page again: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18 [00:22] abarbaccia, try looking in the amd control centre [00:22] for what monitors it sees connected [00:22] ChrisC35: no output from modprobe $module is good [00:23] means it successfully loaded [00:23] ok - do I have to follow the instructions for 'Firmware' ? [00:26] probably [00:28] whats wierd is it says it needs to be extracted from teh windows driver [00:34] ChrisC35: yeah, it's the firmware [00:35] as itisn't on their site, or in the restricted ubuntu package yet [00:42] * Daviey --> bed [00:42] what is firmware exactly? [00:42] ok , well thanks for your help [00:53] MythbuntuControlCentre/core.py breaks if there's an empty line in your passw - not sure why there was an empty line in my passwd. [01:30] hi [01:31] for these instructions: Unzip, then copy the following files to the firmware directory and rename them as follows: [01:31] Drivers/Driver18/hcw18apu.rom -> v4l-cx23418-apu.fw [01:31] from this page: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18 [01:32] i'm not quite following - i get to copy the file, but where to I cophy it to? is the 'v4l - ' part of the new filename? or a reference to where it is going? where is the firmware directory in mythbuntu? [01:37] hads, can you file a bug? [01:37] and/or patch ;) [01:38] i think i did it [01:48] superm1: I will once I can figure out why I can't launch it anymore :) [01:58] superm1: Bug #240275 [01:58] thanks hads [01:58] NP [02:01] Is there a recommended way to run MCC via SSH? [02:02] you need a -X and a -Y [02:02] if you are having crash problems, then run it like this: [02:02] sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre [02:03] Yeah, I thought just forwarding would do it. Seems I'm missing xorgconfig [02:03] are you on intrepid or hardy? [02:03] Just hardy [02:04] okay (phew) [02:04] i know there is going to be breakage with that on intrepid [02:04] I'm contemplating moving to a package install but alredy have quote a bit of existing source setup. [02:04] ah that's why you are missing xorgconfig :) [02:05] the dependencies get a little wacky when you dont add it all in together [02:05] I just installed mythbuntu-control-centre [02:05] yeah, xorgconfig usually comes in with displayconfig-gtk [02:05] Wanted to have a play with it :) [02:05] which is by default on most ubuntu installs [02:05] and on mythbuntu installs [02:06] it should be a default on mythbuntu-control-centre install, but it looks like forgot to put that dependency in [02:06] Ah great thanks, I was having trouble finding the package. [02:06] if that's all that's causing your bug, its at least an easy fix [02:06] kde-guidance provides it [02:07] I can't remember what install disk was used for this box, it wasn't a desktop install from memory and it's been upgraded since. [02:07] So probably not your normal target [02:08] Yeah, pulling in displayconfig-gtk fixed it. [02:47] superm1: back to my hdmi problem -- catalyst controller sees the monitor but says connection is DVI. I'm using a HDMI->DVI cable to test... [02:47] abarbaccia,so that sounds accurate [02:48] you just need to enable the second monitor via the catalyst control center [02:48] but why no picture then... [02:48] 2nd monitor? [02:48] there's only one... [02:51] how did you look at catalyst control center then? [02:58] superm1: vnc ;-) [02:58] ah okay [02:59] so does it claim that the monitor is "enabled"? [03:00] superm1: yes. [03:00] and when the machine is starting up hdmi works (see txt, and mythbuntu logo, etc) [03:00] then check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [03:00] then when driver loads and x starts, it dies [03:00] and see if it sees any weird stuff about the EDID [03:00] or anything out of place [03:01] try to change the resolution in the catalyst control center too [03:01] i would be willing to bet there is something here that is invalid with the EDID causing no picture to show up [03:01] probably a refresh rate or something similar [03:01] if you actually have a TV with real HDMI you should have better luck [03:01] superm1: goti t [03:01] the open source driver likely isn't exploiting the full value that the EDID claims [03:01] it was sending an unusable resolution [03:02] dude, u always seem to be about 10 minutes ahead of me [03:02] damn t [03:02] it [03:02] lol [03:03] haha [03:03] i've probably just messed with a lot of this stuff for too long [03:04] well, ydm (you da man) ;-) [03:04] hey so did you have luck with your IR blaster? [03:05] i haven't been able to test it yet [03:05] mine was working for a little bit for reception, but then just stopped [03:05] the internal usb? [03:05] i wasn't able to blast with it at all when it stopped [03:05] the external usb one [03:05] really? [03:05] yeah i have no idea what happened [03:05] i've used external one back a few months ago and it worked fine [03:05] well this is brand new hardware [03:05] had a customer controlling 6 cable boxes with 2 of them [03:05] ahhh [03:05] so it's possible a hardware defect in this blaster [03:06] remember they're beta :) [03:06] true [03:06] hahaha right [03:06] im trying to get the hvr1600s to work [03:06] i'd hate if i ended up exposing that [03:06] hahahaha yeah [03:06] hopefully its just a driver modification, ya know [03:06] well getting that lirc package built with his driver was a pain in the ass [03:06] when it really shouldn't have been [03:07] yeah [03:07] it was silly little things related to the Makefile and configure script that would be handled automatically by CVS [03:07] but not by a released version [03:07] ahh [03:07] yeah, that lirc package is a mess [03:07] modifying it is terribly complicated [03:07] i dont know if its worthwhile to try to get debian to sync up with us [03:07] i doubt they will want to now [03:08] there is no chance we'll just switch to them now as there is too much logic built into that postinst [03:08] into our postinst? [03:09] yeah [03:09] that's where a ton of magic happens [03:09] right - seems like too much is happening with the package [03:09] right all the lirc logic bugs that are sitting in my inbox [03:10] so wheres the project to proceed? [03:10] its like everything is starting to have remotes these days [03:10] so receiving is becoming critically important [03:12] well there are a lot of independent efforts going on [03:12] but they are all making really slow progress [03:12] independent efforts? what do u mean? [03:12] because they are all making slow progress, that's why I jumped the gun to write the logic we have now and to include lirc in LUM [03:12] 1) getting lirc included in the kernel [03:12] 2) custom ui for new remotes [03:12] 3) custom UI for configuring lirc [03:13] 4) standardization of remote button naming [03:13] 4 is critical [03:13] well so you can either try to improve current integration here or you can try to fix the general problem [03:13] bc that could remove an entire configuration file [03:14] in the effort of time, the former is easier [03:14] and once the former is sane, the latter is more feasible [03:14] agreed with the approach [03:14] its just so difficult because the number of remotes out there, no way to autodetect, etc [03:15] well the best thing is to get any of the remotes that you are normally working with/selling working [03:15] and then let people file bugs on the others [03:15] you can also try to sell remotes that are functional as kernel devices directly already [03:15] right but does that effort get invested into packaging, or figuring another way to configure [03:15] any of the Dell laptops these days that come with a remote, they are purely kernel devices [03:16] it's great, and they work in any app then without worrying with LIRC [03:16] see, that's what i was wondering...is lirc really needed for remotes [03:16] well right now that effort should get invested into packaging and i think [03:16] because that "other" way to configure is a separate problem [03:16] at least in the current day [03:18] gotcha [03:18] u see the specs on the new Eee? [03:19] yeah i've been pointed at them [03:19] i will end up with other product(s) instead later this year that i'll be buying though :) [03:20] yeah [03:20] i just like this new class of netbooks [03:20] i think its a cool toy [03:20] the atom can almost handle playing HD too [03:20] on myth that is [03:20] g'damn! [03:20] h.264? [03:21] i haven't messed with h264 on it at all [03:21] ah nice [03:21] alright another problem [03:21] just high res mpeg2 stuff it just barely skips a bit [03:21] and its just myth that skips [03:21] playing in totem-xine it's smooth [03:21] i hate that that happens [03:21] yeah me too [03:21] it reminds me how much i hate that ffmpeg is different in different projects [03:22] is that what it is? [03:22] well i like to blame that [03:22] but i dont know for sure [03:22] hahaha [03:22] yeah, i was wondering if there was a way to use different "engines" kinda like with audio [03:22] i've heard it is because of how QT is used inefficiently in myth [03:22] and then i've heard that there are too many threads running at the same time in myth [03:22] i've heard all these different things, but nothing definitive [03:22] myth does seem a bit bloated these days [03:23] the guy who works on mythbuntu on appletv said that he will go through and clean up some of the code in myth to get rid of the inefficiencies that stand out [03:23] i mean ,setting scope at "mythical convergence box" would tend to do that [03:23] interesting [03:23] because its the same way on apple tv, just barely there [03:23] ah, that would be awesome [03:23] great as a media extender [03:24] the nice thing is that all the lpia stuff is already built for hardy too [03:24] alright - next question [03:24] so if you get an atom based box, you can just install ubuntu lpia on it and myth from the repos [03:24] oh sweet [03:24] (assuming it doesn't already come with an ubuntu lpia based install) ;) [03:24] cool [03:25] i bought an hvr16000 [03:25] 1600 [03:25] and i get it almost working [03:25] at my desk [03:25] when i plug in at tv, it refuses to boot [03:25] hangs at the bios [03:25] if i take the card out, no problems [03:25] so where's it hang at the TV? [03:25] and i'm assuming these are two different computers [03:25] superm1, the PVR-150MCE has been end of life'd :( (along with all of their other analog tuners) [03:25] at your desk and tv [03:26] foxbuntu, well the HVR950 is just about supported [03:26] so it will make a good replacement [03:26] i believe [03:26] once the rest of the support is ready [03:26] thats the NTSC/ATSC hybrid right? [03:26] superm1: its the same box! [03:26] abarbaccia, also i'm working on getting coreavc based myth packages ready [03:27] so that should help a bit at least when messign with the h264 stuff [03:27] ls [03:27] oops :) [03:27] superm1: very nice! those will be greatly appreciated [03:27] foxbuntu, yes [03:27] superm1, I will be ordering my HD PVR this week if your interested [03:28] foxbuntu, yeah i'd like to hear how your hardware handles with it [03:28] but remember there are no myth patches ready yet [03:28] so you'll just be able to capture and do some basic testing at this point [03:29] superm1, thats ok...I will have a machine to test the SVN trunk code on [03:30] foxbuntu: what cpu does your HD playback box have? [03:30] foxbuntu, it's not even in SVN trunk [03:30] it's not there yet, period [03:30] superm1: and it hangs at the bios at POST i believe [03:30] the patches will be to -fixes though too eventually [03:30] abarbaccia, well that's very bizarre then [03:31] yes, i am completely confused [03:31] you have some other hardware by the TV? [03:31] usb stuff, different keyboard mouse [03:31] anything like that [03:31] everythign is unplugged [03:31] rhpot1991, right now its not big enough, its a single core 3400+ [03:32] rhpot1991, however I am placing the order for my dev hardware later this week and an HD PVR is on the list [03:32] abarbaccia, did you make sure to take the gremlins out of the box before you started? [03:32] foxbuntu: 5000+ x2? [03:32] rhpot1991, I am going to test 4 procs and benchmark them (5000+ X2, Phenom 9750 X4, Intel E8600 and Q6600) [03:34] superm1: foxbuntu: HVR950 doesn't have QAM support? [03:34] foxbuntu: excellent, let me know how the 5000+x2 does with it [03:34] abarbaccia: nope [03:34] err wait [03:34] abarbaccia, sure it does [03:34] thought you asked hdhr [03:34] they just dont advertise it that way usually [03:35] rhpot1991, no problem...I am using the same board and ram for each proc (obviously an intel board for the intel procs) [03:35] superm1: im reading reviews right now, only OTA, no QAM [03:35] i've got one sitting on my desk right now that says QAM on the back of it [03:35] so my test results should be based on proc bottleneck only [03:36] i haven't actually tested the QAM, but it says it should. also the guy i got it from told me it should work with QAM even though a lot of reviews say otherwise [03:36] maybe error is between users chair and keyboard? [03:36] "Comcast plans to drop all analog service by 2010 and other cable providers are expected to follow depending on how successful Comcast is.  Between Comcast's move to switched digital video and dropping analog service its going to be harder and harder to keep running a Mythtv box." [03:36] blah [03:36] yeah i heard that too [03:36] looks like I need to get me some $40 coupons [03:36] ballsy [03:37] * foxbuntu bashes head against wall.... [03:37] rhpot1991, so with that, there is the option that they might choose to actually just open more stations [03:37] but that's only if enough people complain i bet [03:38] open via, qam? [03:39] yeah [03:39] wouldn't that just be awesome? [03:40] you'd have a better chance getting working firewire :) [03:40] haha [03:40] speaking of which ever get anywhere with that? [03:40] i can always dream [03:40] also did you ever use your $40 coupons? [03:40] i'm gonna use them this month hopefully [03:40] they're on my todo list still [03:40] i haven't gotten any further or bothered much more with them [03:40] not worth it [03:40] I have some analog tv's I have no interest in putting any money at all into [03:43] bah cable boxes didn't work again [03:44] * rhpot1991 curses comcast [03:47] superm1, did you get your commandir II mini working? [03:48] foxbuntu, just the same as i mentioned the other day [03:48] haven't messed since [03:48] * foxbuntu is going to load the lirc from ppa tonight [03:48] superm1, alright [03:48] well guys I am going to pack up and head home...be back in 45 mins to an hour [03:48] later [04:32] I deleted channels from SD, but they still appear in my listing [04:32] I once had it where they no longer showed but I forget how to do it again [04:35] missed the help bus again [04:35] superm1, still up? [04:37] darthanubis: check the man page I think there is an update channels option for mythfilldatabase [04:37] mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates [04:37] sorry you think I'm that green [04:37] but that option has left me wanting [04:39] all that seemed to do was remove the data, not the channel listing for some reason [04:39] I'm running it again, like I did a month agao, and just now, and since you typed it [04:40] and the channels are still there [04:41] so now I'm going to attemtp to remove and readd the source [04:45] delete your channels and refetch them from the source [04:52] that did the trick, thx for the reply [04:54] np [05:15] does totem play mythtv recordings for anyone? [05:15] I've given up on it as far as that goes [05:15] it just errors data stream empty [05:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/237801 [05:19] i had it playing at one point [06:24] i have got my tv card recognized in mythtv setup, and scanned for channels successfully. But when i return to the front end, and select 'watch tv' , nothing happens. [06:25] maybe your using the wrong encoder [06:25] perhaps your tv card wont use the default jtpeg or whatever, and its actually an mpeg encoder [06:25] try changing that [06:29] um hmm\ [06:29] it is an hvr-1600 [06:30] I dont have that card [06:30] i installed the beta driver http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18 [06:30] it seems to recognize the card now and scans for channels etc [06:30] right on [06:30] i'm not sure what you mean about changing it to an mpeg encoder, or the encoder [06:31] where is that set? [06:31] still.. check the encoder settings.. check to make sure your using the right connection output in the software [06:31] its all in the gui.. [06:32] i'll try to find it\ [06:32] good hunting [06:32] dammit i hate this laptop keyboard i always hit \ beside the enter key [06:34] where is the connection output? [06:35] do you mean in mythtv setup? or front end settings? [06:41] just look everywhere.. it can't take you more then 5 minutes [06:58] i'm not really sure where you are referring to, i've looked everywhere [07:32] i think i'll just buy a new tv tuner. what would any of you reccomend? [10:01] Does a dvi cable to link say a pc to an lcd have male connectors at both ends? [10:27] yes [10:28] while im here i was wondering if anyone could help me, [10:28] i have mythbuntu installed fine. everything works. [10:29] except when i go to the program guide the controls lock up. [10:29] the live tv is still playing in the corner. the pc hasnt frozen. i just lose control [10:30] Keyboard? Remote? Telnet? [10:30] i havent tried telnet or ssh. [10:30] So, Keyboard? Remote? [10:31] but keyboard and remote stop controling mythtv [10:31] well to be most precise i can control it for about 2 seconds after i go into the guide. then it locks up [10:31] If it were me I would ssh in and run a tail -f on the frontend log to see if anything is logged when it happens. [10:32] wheres it keep the frontend log? [10:33] I believe it's in /var/log/mythtv/ [10:34] ah there it is [10:36] ok well when i press the guide button while watching tv i get this [10:36] "XMLParse::LoadTheme using /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus/ui.xml" [10:37] but when it finaly freezes nothing comes up. [10:37] Has anyone had any experience getting the Compro T750F working with V4L (as compared to the Compro T750? [10:37] So it actually locks up? Or can you still access it via SSH [10:37] ssh still works [10:38] Run top and see what's doing what. [10:39] i have no idea whats going on with top. [10:40] At a guess you may be hitting an X driver bug or something. That's about all I've got. [10:42] video driver maybe? i dunno what driver would do that [10:42] im gonna see if it does it without having live tv play in the corner [10:43] nope. it only does it while playing live tv in the corner [12:54] Hi all [14:05] 2008-06-16 14:05:27.987 TV Error: Failed to get recording show list [14:05] I keep getting this error when trying to run mythtv [14:06] mythfrontend worke [14:06] s [14:06] worked* [14:36] Where are the mythtv plugin options? [14:37] for example the dvd and vcd options are missing and i made nice icons for those :( [15:24] My dvd playback is messed up [15:24] http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03oo0.png [15:24] see [16:32] how is ati support in mythbuntu? [17:57] hello [17:57] anybody get their Happauge HD-PVR 1212 working in Linux yet? [18:26] Hey - what would be the easiest way to make a Windows Vista share accessible to mythbuntu? My series and videos are on my main stationary. [18:26] Google doesn't provide much help [18:30] hi, is it possible to use lvm from the mythbuntu live cd installer? [18:36] ok, I now understand that I can also use storage groups [18:36] but how should I have the mount points when partitioning? === cropalat is now known as cropalato [21:25] hi, where can i get some doc that show me how can i use the myth tv to get internet tv channels? Anybody can help me? [21:27] cropalato, try using mythstream [21:27] tgm4883_laptop, thanks [21:30] Hey - what would be the easiest way to make a Windows Vista share accessible to mythbuntu? My series and videos are on my main stationary. [21:31] trillex, mount them via cifs [21:31] Can you be a bit more throughout? A bit new and totally blue to this sort of thing. === Kevin`_ is now known as Kevin` [23:49] Several times now while watching TV or recordings, my screen will just go black. The audio will keep going, and the controls still work (like exiting out of tv), but there's no output to my TV... is there anything I can do to troubleshoot the problem?