| aestetix | 1024 at the moment | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| PsynoKhi0 | I mean, the thinkwiki doesn't list many different resolutions... 2 models have 1024 as max | 00:25 |
| aestetix | Ahh. | 00:26 |
| PsynoKhi0 | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60 | 00:29 |
| JebJoya2 | is it just me that can't get on to #ubuntu? | 01:00 |
| Stroganoff | yes JebJoya2 | 01:04 |
| JebJoya2 | hmm... that's pretty odd... | 01:06 |
| Stroganoff | JebJoya2 it seems to be caused by that java irc client you are using | 01:06 |
| JebJoya2 | ahh, fair enough | 01:06 |
| shitstorm | ...i just tried it | 01:06 |
| JebJoya2 | didn't really want to try installing anything on this vista machine :S | 01:07 |
| Stroganoff | JebJoya2 you should file a bug there: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council | 01:08 |
| Stroganoff | X-Chat runs on windows btw | 01:09 |
| JebJoya2 | oh, does it? i was just going to use mirc | 01:09 |
| Stroganoff | http://www.silverex.org/download/ | 01:10 |
| JebJoya2 | lovely, got on using mirc, thanks for that Stroganoff, i'll try to file a bug report as well :) | 01:10 |
| JebJoya2 | ah, not worth it now i've got this up and running | 01:11 |
| JebJoya2 | want to use vista as little as humanly possible! | 01:11 |
| Stroganoff | delete it then :p | 01:12 |
| Stroganoff | cheers | 01:12 |
| cabuloso | anyone has a quick link to a tutorial for codecs and stuff for a fresh xubuntu install ? | 01:17 |
| PsynoKhi0 | cabuloso: hang on | 01:20 |
| PsynoKhi0 | cabuloso: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 | 01:22 |
| cabuloso | PsynoKhi0: thanks ! | 01:24 |
| PsynoKhi0 | np | 01:25 |
| Aggrocrag | Hi there | 02:11 |
| PsynoKhi0 | hi | 02:11 |
| Aggrocrag | Guess I forgot what to add after that. | 02:11 |
| Aggrocrag | Oh yeah, I had a question | 02:15 |
| Aggrocrag | The icons on my desktop are invisible, and don't show themselves until I put my mouse over where they are, what can I do about this? | 02:16 |
| PsynoKhi0 | first time I've heard this one... | 02:17 |
| PsynoKhi0 | what icons are there? | 02:17 |
| Aggrocrag | Could this be caused by running Conky? | 02:18 |
| PsynoKhi0 | as a deamon? | 02:18 |
| PsynoKhi0 | daemon* | 02:18 |
| Aggrocrag | yeah, i think | 02:18 |
| Aggrocrag | it's embedded in my desktop | 02:18 |
| PsynoKhi0 | under your icons? | 02:19 |
| PsynoKhi0 | are you using Xfce as your desktop manager? | 02:19 |
| Aggrocrag | no, i mentioned it because I was thinking it might be covering them up yes i am | 02:19 |
| Aggrocrag | wait | 02:19 |
| Aggrocrag | I'm running compiz | 02:20 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ah | 02:20 |
| Aggrocrag | always get confused with teh compiz | 02:20 |
| Aggrocrag | wait a second | 02:20 |
| Aggrocrag | no i'm not | 02:20 |
| Aggrocrag | I used to when i ran Ubuntu, but not now | 02:20 |
| Aggrocrag | i forgot i reformatted | 02:20 |
| Aggrocrag | I just thought I was because the Compositor is on | 02:21 |
| Aggrocrag | and I'm running AWN | 02:22 |
| Aggrocrag | so nevermind on the compiz | 02:22 |
| PsynoKhi0 | hmm what icons are we talking about? standard "Trash", "Home", "File System" ocr do you have more? | 02:23 |
| Aggrocrag | Just the standard ones and a icon for an external hard drive that i have plugged in, | 02:23 |
| Aggrocrag | Might have found it on good 'ole google though. I added 'conky' to my search terms, I'm gonna check the link | 02:24 |
| PsynoKhi0 | you could check your desktop settings (left click on a free area, settings, second tab, check all boxes at the bottom)... did you keep your /home partition while reformatting? | 02:28 |
| Aggrocrag | nope, I backed up files on an external drive, but luckily I think I found it in the FAQ's on Conky | 02:29 |
| Aggrocrag | http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html | 02:29 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ok | 02:30 |
| Aggrocrag | I'm gonna check it out and get back to you in a few | 02:30 |
| Aggrocrag | got to twiddle the config file | 02:30 |
| PsynoKhi0 | thought your theme might have some issues | 02:30 |
| Aggrocrag | hopefully the conky fix works | 02:31 |
| Aggrocrag | Isolated it to Conky. When I turned conky on manually (instead of turning it on automatically at startup) I saw the icons dissappear | 02:41 |
| PsynoKhi0 | weird | 02:42 |
| PsynoKhi0 | well at least you know | 02:42 |
| Aggrocrag | I think it's my custom config file, because I didn't have this problem with conky before | 02:42 |
| Aggrocrag | (I had a different config file) | 02:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | could be | 02:43 |
| Aggrocrag | anyway, I'm gonna log off, thank you for your help | 02:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | np, not like I did much heh | 02:43 |
| wisema1 | hey everyone! | 02:58 |
| === wisema1 is now known as TheWiseman | ||
| TheWiseman | I need some help! | 02:59 |
| PsynoKhi0 | hi | 02:59 |
| TheWiseman | I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop here. I was running ubuntu before and ubuntu can read my windows partition fine, but xubuntu doesn't appear to see it. What can i do to rectify this? | 03:00 |
| PsynoKhi0 | hmm | 03:01 |
| TheWiseman | I'd like to continue using xubuntu. I think I like it better than ubuntu or vista. | 03:01 |
| PsynoKhi0 | what kind of windows filesystem is it? NTFS? | 03:01 |
| TheWiseman | yes | 03:01 |
| PsynoKhi0 | check that you have ntfs-3g installed | 03:02 |
| TheWiseman | laptop shipped with vista, vista is NTFS | 03:02 |
| TheWiseman | yep | 03:02 |
| TheWiseman | like I said | 03:02 |
| TheWiseman | regular ubuntu reads it just fine | 03:03 |
| PsynoKhi0 | do you still get the dual boot option? | 03:03 |
| TheWiseman | yep | 03:04 |
| TheWiseman | well actually triple boot. Ubuntu 19, ubuntu 16, and vista | 03:04 |
| PsynoKhi0 | 19? | 03:04 |
| TheWiseman | 8.04.19 | 03:04 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ok | 03:05 |
| TheWiseman | but I use 8.04.16 because the latest one doesn't seem to like my wireless no matter what I do | 03:05 |
| TheWiseman | but that's a different story | 03:05 |
| PsynoKhi0 | what does your fstab look like? | 03:06 |
| PsynoKhi0 | (use the pastebin if needed please) | 03:06 |
| TheWiseman | uh....fstab? pastebin? | 03:07 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ah | 03:07 |
| TheWiseman | I've been up on linux for a couple weeks....my linux-fu is very weak still | 03:07 |
| PsynoKhi0 | check the file called fstab under /etc | 03:07 |
| PsynoKhi0 | one way to do it is to open a terminal and type | 03:08 |
| PsynoKhi0 | cat /etc/fstab | 03:08 |
| PsynoKhi0 | do NOT plaste the result here | 03:08 |
| PsynoKhi0 | paste* | 03:08 |
| TheWiseman | ok....what am I looking for now? I've got it open | 03:09 |
| PsynoKhi0 | http://paste.ubuntu.com use this instead | 03:09 |
| TheWiseman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/20512/ | 03:10 |
| PsynoKhi0 | if you can access the root partition of an ubuntu version you know accesses your ntfs drive, you can compare the fstab file there with your xubuntu one | 03:10 |
| PsynoKhi0 | fstab = File System TABle | 03:11 |
| PsynoKhi0 | tells your gnu/linux box where drives are, what file system to use on them, privileges and so on | 03:11 |
| TheWiseman | so what...I should boot into gnome, copy fstab, paste in xfce? | 03:11 |
| PsynoKhi0 | uh... | 03:12 |
| PsynoKhi0 | do you have ubuntuand xubuntu? or gnome and xfce on a same core? | 03:12 |
| TheWiseman | gnome and xfce in the same core I think | 03:12 |
| TheWiseman | I select "ubuntu 8.04.16" at startup, the login screen comes up, I select XFCE as the desktop I want, bob's your uncle. | 03:13 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ok | 03:13 |
| PsynoKhi0 | anyway, your fstab doesn't list any ntfs partition so no hcange you can get them automounted | 03:14 |
| PsynoKhi0 | no chance* | 03:14 |
| PsynoKhi0 | you'll have to edit fstab to do so | 03:15 |
| TheWiseman | k | 03:15 |
| PsynoKhi0 | first you need to know what the partition vista is on is called | 03:15 |
| TheWiseman | k | 03:16 |
| PsynoKhi0 | I'd say /dev/sda1 by the look of it | 03:16 |
| TheWiseman | Well on gnome it sees it as a string of letters and numbers | 03:17 |
| PsynoKhi0 | yup | 03:17 |
| * TheWiseman begins to wonder if it's best to leave well enough alone and go back to gnome..... | 03:17 | |
| PsynoKhi0 | however to get that string manually, you need to know the partiton :) | 03:18 |
| TheWiseman | what do you mean? | 03:18 |
| PsynoKhi0 | what bugs me is that I don't see how installing a different desktop could mess up your fstab | 03:18 |
| TheWiseman | dun dun DUN | 03:19 |
| TheWiseman | brb, gonna go into gnome | 03:19 |
| === wiseman is now known as TheWiseman | ||
| TheWiseman | Back | 03:21 |
| TheWiseman | What was that site where I pasted stuff into? | 03:21 |
| PsynoKhi0 | it's in the topic :) | 03:23 |
| TheWiseman | oh hay | 03:24 |
| TheWiseman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/20513/ | 03:26 |
| TheWiseman | hrm....comparing, there's nothing different at all | 03:27 |
| PsynoKhi0 | yet you can acces your vista partition? | 03:28 |
| PsynoKhi0 | access* | 03:29 |
| TheWiseman | yep, plain as day | 03:29 |
| PsynoKhi0 | icons on your desktop and in the file manager? | 03:30 |
| TheWiseman | not on the desktop immediately, but in the file manager | 03:31 |
| TheWiseman | when I open in file manager, the icon appears on the desktop | 03:31 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ok | 03:32 |
| PsynoKhi0 | but not in xfce | 03:32 |
| TheWiseman | nope | 03:33 |
| TheWiseman | xfce shows only linux stuff | 03:33 |
| PsynoKhi0 | the file manager in gnome is cheating a bit :P | 03:33 |
| TheWiseman | ? | 03:35 |
| TheWiseman | cheating is fine if it works | 03:35 |
| PsynoKhi0 | yup but that kind of sucks cause that requires a bit more work | 03:36 |
| TheWiseman | eh | 03:38 |
| TheWiseman | I'll stick with gnome for now | 03:38 |
| TheWiseman | I don't feel like getting into it yet | 03:38 |
| xbj9000 | anyone used gfloppy? | 03:53 |
| xbj9000 | it won't start for me | 03:53 |
| PsynoKhi0 | TheWiseman: what does "sudo fdisk -l" give you? | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | /dev/sda1 1 192 1536000 27 Unknown | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | /dev/sda2 * 192 22825 181799936 7 HPFS/NTFS | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | /dev/sda3 22826 24040 9759487+ 83 Linux | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | /dev/sda4 24041 30400 51086700 5 Extended | 03:55 |
| TheWiseman | /dev/sda5 24041 24769 5855661 82 Linux swap / Solaris | 03:56 |
| TheWiseman | /dev/sda6 24770 30400 45230976 83 Linux | 03:56 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ffs dude! pastebin! | 03:56 |
| TheWiseman | Oh come on....it's not like this room is moving at terrible speed | 03:56 |
| xbj9000 | lol | 03:56 |
| TheWiseman | simmer down | 03:56 |
| TheWiseman | besides, it's only like 7 lines | 03:57 |
| xbj9000 | what are you trying to figure out? | 03:57 |
| TheWiseman | why xfce doesn't see my windows partition but gnome does | 03:57 |
| xbj9000 | hmm, perhaps there's something gnome autoloads that xfce doesn't? | 03:58 |
| xbj9000 | sorry I don't really know | 03:58 |
| TheWiseman | xbj9000: makes sense to me | 03:58 |
| zoredache | have you tried mounting it by hand? | 03:58 |
| TheWiseman | n00b here | 03:59 |
| magic_ninja | whats the name of that disk mounting tool | 03:59 |
| TheWiseman | Nobody has told me how to do that | 03:59 |
| magic_ninja | google it | 03:59 |
| zoredache | !ntfs | TheWiseman | 03:59 |
| ubottu | TheWiseman: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE | 03:59 |
| magic_ninja | error codes, commands, whenever in doubt google and read | 03:59 |
| xbj9000 | what is your fstab line for the windows partition? | 03:59 |
| magic_ninja | sudo fdisk -l will tell you | 03:59 |
| PsynoKhi0 | xbj9000: he has none | 04:00 |
| PsynoKhi0 | that's what I'm trying to make him do now | 04:00 |
| TheWiseman | oh hay | 04:00 |
| xbj9000 | no fstab? how is that possible? | 04:00 |
| TheWiseman | I have fstab | 04:00 |
| PsynoKhi0 | so /dev/sda2 is your windows partiton | 04:00 |
| TheWiseman | aparently | 04:00 |
| PsynoKhi0 | he has fstab, not ntfs partition line in it | 04:01 |
| xbj9000 | ah | 04:01 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ok thne: | 04:01 |
| PsynoKhi0 | then* | 04:01 |
| PsynoKhi0 | sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda2 | 04:01 |
| TheWiseman | ok....let's rock this shit | 04:02 |
| xbj9000 | fstab should be something like: | 04:02 |
| TheWiseman | ok PsynoKhi0 | 04:02 |
| TheWiseman | now what | 04:02 |
| TheWiseman | it gave me a string of letters and numbers | 04:03 |
| xbj9000 | dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 | 04:03 |
| PsynoKhi0 | TheWiseman: backup your fstab with "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak" | 04:03 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ntfs-3g? | 04:03 |
| TheWiseman | k, backed up PsynoKhi0 | 04:03 |
| xbj9000 | also you must create your mount folder (/media/windows) | 04:03 |
| TheWiseman | oh hey, hang on a sec | 04:04 |
| xbj9000 | yeah unless I forgot something you use ntfs-3g | 04:04 |
| xbj9000 | I think ubuntu now reads ntfs the same as ntfs-3g though | 04:04 |
| TheWiseman | hang on, in gnome the drive is located in media. I never thought to look there. | 04:04 |
| xbj9000 | so maybe you can use either, hang on I'll make sure | 04:04 |
| TheWiseman | I was just looking on the main bit. Hang on. | 04:05 |
| PsynoKhi0 | TheWiseman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506 | 04:05 |
| xbj9000 | yeah ntfs-3g | 04:05 |
| TheWiseman | PsynoKhi0: I don't want to restrict access to the windows partition | 04:05 |
| TheWiseman | brb, gonna log out and into xfce | 04:06 |
| PsynoKhi0 | no, but there's a nice fstab in there | 04:06 |
| PsynoKhi0 | BAH | 04:06 |
| xbj9000 | so nobody has used gfloppy? | 04:06 |
| shane_ | help my system is goin crazy,its using 1.9 gig of my 2 gig ram and i cant see whats hoggin. iv got kmess runnin konversation and limewire | 04:07 |
| xbj9000 | xfce is being a huge pain about floppies for me | 04:07 |
| xbj9000 | it's limewire lol | 04:07 |
| xbj9000 | most likely | 04:07 |
| shane_ | limewire is usin 2 gig of ram | 04:07 |
| xbj9000 | in terminal type top and see what's using the most cpu | 04:08 |
| xbj9000 | probably the same program is using the most ram also | 04:08 |
| shane_ | 49% is goin to java | 04:08 |
| xbj9000 | actually top will even tell you what's using a lot of ram | 04:08 |
| xbj9000 | %MEM | 04:08 |
| shane_ | of cpu | 04:09 |
| shane_ | 126.7 mem | 04:09 |
| shane_ | mb | 04:09 |
| xbj9000 | 126.7%?? | 04:09 |
| shane_ | 126.7 mib | 04:09 |
| xbj9000 | where did you see that, top gives percents | 04:10 |
| xbj9000 | sorry | 04:10 |
| wiseman | oh hai | 04:11 |
| shane_ | im in system monitor and none are really goin crazy on the mem but java is takin 50%of my cpu | 04:11 |
| wiseman | PsynoKhi0: ok, I'm now in xfce | 04:11 |
| xbj9000 | yeah java is bad like that | 04:11 |
| xbj9000 | I suggest trying gtk-gnutella, or at least frostwire | 04:12 |
| xbj9000 | still it shouldn't be using that much ram | 04:12 |
| wiseman | ok, it doesn't see the windows drive in media either. | 04:12 |
| wiseman | so let's continue where we left off | 04:12 |
| xbj9000 | ok | 04:12 |
| shane_ | well thats no good how can i correct this its a pd 3 gig with 2 gigs ram i only have 3 things runnin and im maxed | 04:12 |
| xbj9000 | I'm not sure shane_ | 04:13 |
| xbj9000 | wiseman, your windows is /dev/sda2 right? | 04:13 |
| shane_ | oh wait i see i have 1.6 gig of swap hapanin somehow | 04:13 |
| PsynoKhi0 | wiseman: do you still have that link I gave you? | 04:13 |
| xbj9000 | 1.6 used? | 04:13 |
| wiseman | no, it's gone | 04:14 |
| PsynoKhi0 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506 | 04:14 |
| PsynoKhi0 | there's a fstab line in there that might be of insterest | 04:14 |
| PsynoKhi0 | search the page for /dev/sda1 | 04:14 |
| wiseman | I think I see what you're talking about | 04:15 |
| wiseman | but the /dev/sda2 isn't in my fstab at all | 04:15 |
| wiseman | should I add it? | 04:15 |
| PsynoKhi0 | yep | 04:15 |
| xbj9000 | here's the line from the ubuntu manual | 04:15 |
| xbj9000 | <your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 | 04:15 |
| xbj9000 | so... | 04:16 |
| wiseman | do I put the # in front of it like the other ones have? | 04:16 |
| xbj9000 | /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale-en_US.utf8 0 0 | 04:16 |
| xbj9000 | lines with # are not read by the system, they are notes for your benefit | 04:17 |
| wiseman | ok | 04:17 |
| wiseman | do I need to put in that string of letters and numbers? | 04:17 |
| xbj9000 | you will also have to create the mount point, with a command like sudo mkdir /media/windows | 04:17 |
| xbj9000 | the uuid? no | 04:17 |
| xbj9000 | also you can use another name besides /media/windows, that is just my example | 04:18 |
| wiseman | uh....I try to save and it says "cannot open file to write" | 04:18 |
| xbj9000 | oh you are editing it as a regular user | 04:19 |
| xbj9000 | open a terminal and type sudo nano /etc/fstab | 04:19 |
| xbj9000 | add the line at the bottom, then ctrl+O then ctrl+X | 04:19 |
| xbj9000 | if you aren't comfortable with that, use sudo mousepad /etc/fstab | 04:20 |
| wiseman | ok, the deed is done | 04:21 |
| xbj9000 | now you must reboot | 04:21 |
| wiseman | ZOMG REBOOT?!!!!1 BUT THIS IS LINUX | 04:22 |
| xbj9000 | lol | 04:22 |
| xbj9000 | for it to be read again and take effect, that is.. however | 04:22 |
| wiseman | K | 04:22 |
| xbj9000 | to go ahead and mount it by hand | 04:22 |
| xbj9000 | type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/windows | 04:22 |
| wiseman | over the river and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go | 04:22 |
| shane_ | is there somethin i can do a terminal comand that will show what is hapaning ive shut down limewire and i have kmess runnin and konversation yet im still ussin 1.8 gigs of ram and only 8% of a 3 gig dual core cpu this isnt makin sense | 04:23 |
| wiseman | k xbj9000. | 04:23 |
| wiseman | Reboot now? | 04:23 |
| xbj9000 | to make sure the fstab is right, yes I would | 04:23 |
| wiseman | OH HAY | 04:24 |
| wiseman | the windows folder is working now | 04:24 |
| xbj9000 | :) | 04:24 |
| wiseman | restarting just verifies that the fstab file is working correctly, right? | 04:24 |
| xbj9000 | yeah when your system starts it reads fstab and mounts partitions accordingly | 04:24 |
| * wiseman chugs a beer | 04:24 | |
| wiseman | HOOOAH | 04:24 |
| xbj9000 | I'm sure it's correct though | 04:25 |
| wiseman | thank you all so much! | 04:26 |
| xbj9000 | sure | 04:26 |
| wiseman | me using linux is like a bear flying a space shuttle though | 04:26 |
| xbj9000 | pretty new? | 04:27 |
| wiseman | very green I'm afraid | 04:27 |
| xbj9000 | it's ok | 04:27 |
| wiseman | I was appalled by the fact that I had to get a computer with 3 gigs of RAM | 04:27 |
| wiseman | stupid vista | 04:27 |
| xbj9000 | ? | 04:27 |
| xbj9000 | lol | 04:27 |
| xbj9000 | oh shane_ sorry for forgetting about you | 04:27 |
| wiseman | so I talked to the only people I knew who were nerdier than me, and they reccomended I try out linux | 04:28 |
| xbj9000 | I'm not sure how to find out what's hogging ram I'll look around | 04:28 |
| shane_ | xbj9000: is there anything in xubuntu that could hog that much ram it stopped on its own whatever it was but thats not normal | 04:28 |
| xbj9000 | hmm | 04:28 |
| xbj9000 | does it happen regularly? | 04:28 |
| shane_ | it almost locked my system complete | 04:28 |
| shane_ | no first time tonight and i installed java and lime today | 04:29 |
| xbj9000 | it's probably related | 04:29 |
| xbj9000 | did you install the real java or one of the open alternatives? | 04:29 |
| shane_ | so get rid of them or is java needed by other apps | 04:29 |
| shane_ | no with lime it took the real java not a clone | 04:29 |
| xbj9000 | limewire is probably the only thing you use java for, but it's sometimes used by websites | 04:29 |
| xbj9000 | 64 bit or 32 bit system? | 04:30 |
| shane_ | 32 | 04:30 |
| wiseman | ok, off to watch Machine Girl. L8rs and thanks again! | 04:30 |
| xbj9000 | did you do sudo update-alternatives --configure java | 04:30 |
| xbj9000 | sorry | 04:31 |
| xbj9000 | --config java I meant | 04:31 |
| shane_ | no | 04:31 |
| xbj9000 | but you did do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre? | 04:31 |
| shane_ | no when i ran package manager to install limewire it all auto installed | 04:32 |
| xbj9000 | ah | 04:32 |
| xbj9000 | well do sudo update-alternatives --config java and see if the sun version is the selected default | 04:32 |
| xbj9000 | also I really recommend using frostwire instead | 04:33 |
| shane_ | it has 2 selections | 04:33 |
| xbj9000 | also I have a Tango icon theme I made for limewire / frostwire if you want it :) | 04:33 |
| shane_ | java 6 sun and java 6 open | 04:33 |
| xbj9000 | ok type the number for sun and enter | 04:33 |
| shane_ | i think its a conflict with the javas | 04:34 |
| shane_ | 2 | 04:34 |
| xbj9000 | that could be the problem | 04:34 |
| xbj9000 | I mean don't tell me the number, select it in the terminal | 04:34 |
| shane_ | i think so the 2 where conflicting i never even thought of that today | 04:34 |
| xbj9000 | well it uses one or the other | 04:34 |
| xbj9000 | it's possible limewire was using the open one and having some issue with it | 04:35 |
| xbj9000 | you can leave them both installed but you have to do the command I showed you and select sun | 04:35 |
| shane_ | mabey i dunno ill run lime back up now and see what happens i think all good now though | 04:35 |
| xbj9000 | frostwire is identical but has no ads | 04:35 |
| shane_ | i couldnt get frost to go and i did the dos swap over for there errors | 04:36 |
| xbj9000 | and gtk-gnutella does the same things and doesn't use java at all | 04:36 |
| shane_ | gtk i didnt like at all | 04:36 |
| xbj9000 | yeah it's a little complicated | 04:37 |
| xbj9000 | dos swap over? | 04:37 |
| shane_ | i had ktorrent and i liked it but last nite i guess the server had probs and i couldnt get it to work good this mornin | 04:37 |
| xbj9000 | try deluge for torrents | 04:37 |
| shane_ | yah when i install frost it gives icon and no function it doesnt open | 04:37 |
| xbj9000 | sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent | 04:37 |
| xbj9000 | did you try frostwire after setting the java to sun? | 04:38 |
| shane_ | well i guess when the frost team built the program they built it on a win sys so the linux app was made in dos format lol | 04:38 |
| shane_ | search it i laughed | 04:38 |
| xbj9000 | ? | 04:38 |
| xbj9000 | did you install some windows version with WINE or something? | 04:39 |
| shane_ | http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4 | 04:40 |
| shane_ | read that | 04:40 |
| shane_ | thats what i did | 04:40 |
| shane_ | i thought it funny | 04:41 |
| xbj9000 | that's old | 04:41 |
| xbj9000 | direct link to frostwire for ubuntu: | 04:42 |
| xbj9000 | http://www.frostwire.com/download/?os=ubuntu&from= | 04:42 |
| shane_ | lol well i got the newest version from there site and it was for deb linux | 04:42 |
| shane_ | when i searched the prob thats the only thing i could find | 04:42 |
| shane_ | yup thats the same one i used | 04:43 |
| xbj9000 | weird | 04:43 |
| shane_ | either way ill try and install again,will frost and lime conflict also | 04:43 |
| shane_ | or should i remove limewire | 04:44 |
| xbj9000 | I don't think they conflict | 04:44 |
| shane_ | k ill run it up now and see what i get | 04:44 |
| shane_ | i wonder if it was that i didnt have sun in with lime it took it itself but frost didnt do that | 04:46 |
| xbj9000 | could be | 04:46 |
| shane_ | it opened quick and cleen | 04:46 |
| xbj9000 | working now? | 04:46 |
| xbj9000 | good | 04:46 |
| shane_ | yup | 04:46 |
| xbj9000 | now since you use xubuntu let me find you my tango theme :p | 04:46 |
| shane_ | well oil beef hooked | 04:46 |
| shane_ | kk | 04:47 |
| xbj9000 | lol what? | 04:47 |
| shane_ | ok ill try ur them | 04:47 |
| shane_ | say it fast | 04:47 |
| xbj9000 | lol | 04:48 |
| xbj9000 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805337&highlight=frostwire+tango | 04:49 |
| xbj9000 | here's a pic | 04:50 |
| xbj9000 | http://electronicplaygirl.com/Linux/screenshots/frostwire_tango1.png | 04:50 |
| shane_ | that looks good | 04:52 |
| xbj9000 | thanks | 04:52 |
| shane_ | now how do i add a theme | 04:53 |
| xbj9000 | heh I forget | 04:54 |
| xbj9000 | lemme see | 04:54 |
| xbj9000 | I don't have it on this computer so I'm having a hard time, I made that skin a while back | 04:57 |
| shane_ | ill search it out and find it | 04:58 |
| xbj9000 | I think you just copy it into .frostwire or .limewire in /home/username | 04:58 |
| shane_ | also ,you have xubu ? | 04:59 |
| shane_ | xubuntu | 04:59 |
| xbj9000 | yes | 05:01 |
| xbj9000 | on this machine | 05:01 |
| shane_ | ok how do i make it so i havefrost in the top right corner when i close it | 05:01 |
| xbj9000 | you mean you want to leave it running minimized to the tray? | 05:02 |
| shane_ | yes | 05:02 |
| shane_ | when i close out limewire it stays up till i exit | 05:02 |
| shane_ | as do most p2p apps but frost shuts down | 05:02 |
| xbj9000 | hang on I just installed it | 05:03 |
| shane_ | ok | 05:03 |
| xbj9000 | it may not run on this 500MHz lol | 05:03 |
| shane_ | wow thats an old one | 05:03 |
| xbj9000 | yeah building it for someone | 05:03 |
| xbj9000 | does pretty much everything ok besides flash | 05:04 |
| shane_ | yah i just put together a celleron 1 gig from parts outa the basement | 05:04 |
| xbj9000 | but that's nothing I also have a toshiba 'laptop' from 1990 | 05:04 |
| xbj9000 | 1mb ram | 05:04 |
| shane_ | wow | 05:04 |
| xbj9000 | lol | 05:04 |
| shane_ | lol thats a smokin unit | 05:04 |
| xbj9000 | yeah I just got it | 05:04 |
| xbj9000 | installed DOS and duke nukem 1 & 2 | 05:04 |
| shane_ | ive only got the 3 runnin now | 05:05 |
| PsynoKhi0 | xbj9000: if you get your 500MHz machine to play H264 videos, let me know how you manage | 05:05 |
| shane_ | pd 3 gig a p4 2 gig and my cellory 1 gig | 05:05 |
| xbj9000 | I doubt it, I've never even seen one of those | 05:05 |
| xbj9000 | H264 that is | 05:05 |
| shane_ | h264 vid's | 05:05 |
| PsynoKhi0 | high definition AVI | 05:05 |
| shane_ | iv never heard of them | 05:05 |
| shane_ | ow wow yah i doubt thatl happen | 05:06 |
| xbj9000 | I've seen the name in menus but never encountered one | 05:06 |
| xbj9000 | try vlc? | 05:06 |
| shane_ | that cpu will shut out from heat | 05:06 |
| shane_ | the vic 20,s | 05:06 |
| xbj9000 | may have to resort to converting them before playing | 05:06 |
| shane_ | i had a vic 20 pc when i was around 7 | 05:07 |
| shane_ | i thought it was so cool if i programed for 3 hrs i could make a sentence scroll the whole screen | 05:08 |
| xbj9000 | lol | 05:09 |
| xbj9000 | I was too poor to have computers in those days | 05:09 |
| xbj9000 | what's funny is I bet this toshiba was $10,000 in 1990 | 05:09 |
| shane_ | yah my dad was a drunk so he felt bad after a 2 week binge,either that or one of his friends aquired it | 05:09 |
| xbj9000 | ok here's how to add the theme | 05:10 |
| shane_ | thats 25 years ago | 05:10 |
| shane_ | k | 05:10 |
| xbj9000 | copy it to /home/username/.frostwire/themes | 05:10 |
| xbj9000 | then find it in the menu in frostwire and choose it | 05:10 |
| xbj9000 | them restart frostwire | 05:10 |
| shane_ | ok thats odd in home shane i have no frostwire file | 05:11 |
| xbj9000 | select view hidden files | 05:11 |
| xbj9000 | it's .frostwire | 05:11 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ctrl + H | 05:11 |
| xbj9000 | right | 05:12 |
| shane_ | k gotcha | 05:12 |
| PsynoKhi0 | left | 05:12 |
| PsynoKhi0 | up up down down A B | 05:12 |
| PsynoKhi0 | hey shoot looks like my USB doesn't crash | 05:13 |
| xbj9000 | ? | 05:13 |
| PsynoKhi0 | I've had a long lasting issue with tis computer I'm on right now | 05:13 |
| PsynoKhi0 | the onboard USB would crash after a while | 05:14 |
| xbj9000 | shane_ to leave it running in taskbar, go to Tools > system tray > shutdown after transfers | 05:14 |
| shane_ | ok it says that the skin is out of date | 05:14 |
| xbj9000 | ? won't let you use it? | 05:14 |
| shane_ | its says to get a more current one and then it doesnt find my web browser | 05:15 |
| shane_ | how do i set up my browser as default | 05:15 |
| xbj9000 | well there isn't a more current one | 05:15 |
| xbj9000 | tools > helper apps | 05:16 |
| shane_ | i dunno i said later and then restarted and it hasnt changed | 05:16 |
| xbj9000 | bah | 05:17 |
| shane_ | its listed but it wont take affect and my default browser is mozilla | 05:18 |
| PsynoKhi0 | nopers, crashed again... | 05:19 |
| xbj9000 | yeah edit the default browser to whatever you actually use | 05:19 |
| xbj9000 | probably firefox | 05:19 |
| xbj9000 | I don't get it, I can't use the theme either now | 05:20 |
| shane_ | i dunno i changed my browser and it opened a page here so ill check it out i dont think the tango theme will be there if you built it | 05:21 |
| xbj9000 | yeah it won't | 05:21 |
| shane_ | i wonder if you desighned that on there last version and the new changes wont accept it | 05:22 |
| xbj9000 | no, the other themes still say THEME_VERSION=2 | 05:24 |
| shane_ | hmm i dont know then | 05:27 |
| xbj9000 | makes no sense | 05:27 |
| xbj9000 | :( | 05:27 |
| xbj9000 | themes are pretty simple really | 05:27 |
| shane_ | i havent gotten into that end of linux atall yet im just getting to know it | 05:28 |
| PsynoKhi0 | uh trying to unmount a USB key but I get "An application is using blablabla..." is there a command to check which one it is? | 05:28 |
| xbj9000 | that's making me angry I spent hours on it | 05:29 |
| shane_ | but i have tryed 7 different versions of linux in the last few weeks | 05:29 |
| xbj9000 | which ones? | 05:29 |
| shane_ | all 3 buntus arch freespire gos and linspire | 05:30 |
| xbj9000 | haven't tried arch | 05:30 |
| xbj9000 | didn't like *spire | 05:30 |
| shane_ | i liked kubu and xfce xubuntu | 05:30 |
| shane_ | it was nice for visual but i didnt like its weight | 05:30 |
| xbj9000 | I used to love kde but I stopped | 05:30 |
| xbj9000 | I think kde used to be better than gnome but no longer is | 05:31 |
| shane_ | well i think i might throw kde4 on one of my systems i have down stairs but i think ill wait a few more weeks | 05:31 |
| shane_ | i dunno about that | 05:31 |
| shane_ | iv been useing mostly kde in xubu | 05:31 |
| shane_ | gnome is preety but heavy | 05:32 |
| xbj9000 | why not just use kubuntu then? | 05:32 |
| PsynoKhi0 | yeeouch... *buntu and arch? that's like, the almost opposite sides of the spectrum hehe | 05:32 |
| shane_ | lol yah a bit | 05:32 |
| shane_ | i like xubuntu better but there arent many apps for the xfce | 05:33 |
| shane_ | most are for gnome and kde | 05:33 |
| PsynoKhi0 | I haven't had any issue mixing yet | 05:34 |
| shane_ | no me either | 05:34 |
| shane_ | i found that the system does seem a tad faster opening kde than gnome apps though | 05:34 |
| PsynoKhi0 | to the point I wonder wtf they mean with gnome and kde apps heh | 05:34 |
| shane_ | what is the dif | 05:36 |
| xbj9000 | wtf, i figured out the problem | 05:37 |
| shane_ | cool what was it | 05:37 |
| xbj9000 | well for some reason the Tango_theme folder is created 2 deep | 05:37 |
| xbj9000 | there is a Tango_theme folder inside of a Tango_theme folder | 05:38 |
| xbj9000 | :/ | 05:38 |
| shane_ | ok | 05:38 |
| shane_ | so i need to remove that and open it up | 05:38 |
| xbj9000 | so, if you remove Tango_theme and then copy the one inside back over, it works | 05:38 |
| xbj9000 | so that it's only one folder deep | 05:39 |
| xbj9000 | I'll have to fix that | 05:39 |
| shane_ | ok | 05:40 |
| xbj9000 | did you get it? | 05:41 |
| PsynoKhi0 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/20530/ fun huh? | 05:42 |
| shane_ | not yet | 05:42 |
| shane_ | how do i take away the folder and keep the files | 05:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | about those h.264 files, you can check with any decently recent AVI from dattebayo.com | 05:44 |
| xbj9000 | you can move the Tango_theme out onto the desktop | 05:44 |
| xbj9000 | then open it, and copy the Tango_theme inside, and paste that back into /frostwire/themes | 05:45 |
| xbj9000 | or you can wait for me to upload the fix | 05:45 |
| === applegate is now known as watergate | ||
| shane_ | i got it all i had to do was remove the folder completly | 05:47 |
| xbj9000 | theme is working? | 05:47 |
| shane_ | yah its fine now | 05:48 |
| shane_ | looks good | 05:48 |
| xbj9000 | good | 05:48 |
| xbj9000 | thanks | 05:48 |
| shane_ | PsynoKhi0: whats with the paste ur usb crash | 05:49 |
| PsynoKhi0 | yup | 05:50 |
| shane_ | well i like how it reads thats simple to figure out | 05:50 |
| === watergate is now known as lincoln | ||
| shane_ | well i best get some sleep | 05:51 |
| xbj9000 | night | 05:51 |
| shane_ | ty you for you help xbj9000 and i apreciate the theme pack it looks great | 05:51 |
| xbj9000 | no problem | 05:51 |
| shane_ | goodnight all | 05:51 |
| PsynoKhi0 | nite | 05:51 |
| PsynoKhi0 | meh | 05:51 |
| xbj9000 | bah | 05:53 |
| xbj9000 | I forgot my ftp password | 05:53 |
| xbj9000 | it's in my email on a different PC | 05:53 |
| xbj9000 | theme is fixed | 05:59 |
| xbj9000 | I still can't write to floppies | 06:04 |
| xbj9000 | even as root | 06:06 |
| === applegate is now known as yogi1 | ||
| thedeificone | i am running Hardy and have a Intel 945GM Chipset video card, and i am using the new INTEL driver.... i am only getting about 800 FPS and i used 2 get about 1800 on glxgears on another distro... cant even play UT2004... claims direct rendering is working... is this a known problem or ? ..... | 07:36 |
| === thomas__ is now known as The-Kernel | ||
| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| dmseg | anyone need help?? | 09:19 |
| dmseg | !volunteer | 09:20 |
| ubottu | Factoid volunteer not found | 09:20 |
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| dmseg | !ubottu | 09:20 |
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| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| persi | hello, what do you think are the specs with which xubuntu speed advantage will be unnoticeable and I should install base gnome version instead? | 11:18 |
| ablomen | persi, even on my quad core system at home with 2gb of ram i find xfce a lot faster then gnome | 11:19 |
| ablomen | just more responsive (thunar opens a lot faster then nautilus, even rythmbox seems to start up faster) | 11:20 |
| persi | oops :) thanks, I wonder how it was before 4.3, some guy says XFCE became much slower after it | 11:22 |
| persi | startup time actually didnt impress me as it wasnt at all faster than XP | 11:23 |
| ablomen | well but the thing is that windows xp is actually still booting once your logged in | 11:25 |
| ablomen | when you log in in linux everything is booted | 11:25 |
| persi | everything besides gui that is, I think it takes just as long to actually show me desktop | 11:26 |
| ablomen | hmm it does? | 11:26 |
| ablomen | dunno, at home xubuntu seems faster, and havnt used windows on this pc :) | 11:27 |
| persi | how much extra disk space do I need approximately if i want to install ubuntu over xubuntu? | 12:14 |
| jbotscharow | hi all | 13:34 |
| jbotscharow | I have not received any messages from the xubuntu-users ml for several days. has it been that silent or do i have email issues? | 13:36 |
| jbotscharow | cody-somerville: r u here? | 13:59 |
| gloria | how do I get the xubuntu menu showing icons again? | 13:59 |
| gloria | I'm using 8.04 | 13:59 |
| jbotscharow | gloria: I'm new to Xubuntu, so I am not real sure, but I think I recall seeing an option in he menu editor prefs | 14:01 |
| gloria | where? | 14:01 |
| gloria | I don't see any preferences option | 14:02 |
| gloria | Xfce4-MenuEditor right? | 14:02 |
| jbotscharow | give me a minute to look and see if i can find exactly where it is | 14:02 |
| gloria | omg I found it | 14:02 |
| gloria | its the option for the button | 14:02 |
| gloria | thanks | 14:02 |
| gloria | drove me nuts for longest time | 14:03 |
| gloria | now to figure out how to get rid of those crap gnome games from menu | 14:03 |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| === maxamillion is now known as notMax | ||
| cheeseboy | i have usb evga tv tuner | 15:57 |
| cheeseboy | any way i can get it to work? | 15:58 |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| cheeseboy | hi i have evega in D tube | 16:08 |
| cheeseboy | any way i can get it to work on ubuntu? | 16:08 |
| === notMax is now known as maxamillion | ||
| jokoon | hello, I have bluetooth integrated on my G4 ibook, switched recently from gnome to xfce, and "browse device" is greyed in the tray menu | 17:16 |
| jokoon | also how can I deactivate the touchpad in xubuntu ? | 17:16 |
| lordmaynoth | hey | 17:19 |
| lordmaynoth | I've got a weird question | 17:19 |
| jokoon | thats weird | 17:20 |
| lordmaynoth | ok so when I play games in native resolution (using 8600gts, tried envy drivers) the game keeps playing but its in a window, and I can still see the start bar, but the mouse is frozen even if I alt-tab out | 17:21 |
| lordmaynoth | anyone else had anything like this happen in hardy | 17:21 |
| vinnl | lordmaynoth, for which games does that happen? | 17:21 |
| lordmaynoth | tremulous and saurbraten | 17:21 |
| lordmaynoth | any fps | 17:21 |
| lordmaynoth | also if I change the resolution down to 1024 x 768 or less its fine | 17:22 |
| vinnl | lordmaynoth, is there a place in their settings where you can configure them to be fullscreen? | 17:22 |
| vinnl | Oh that's odd | 17:22 |
| lordmaynoth | yeah its making me scratch my head | 17:22 |
| lordmaynoth | didn't happen in gutsy | 17:22 |
| Balachmar | Hi, how can I change the screen resolution in xubuntu? | 19:06 |
| lc2 | applications -> settings -> settings manager, display | 19:07 |
| zoredache | how does one change what browser the update-manager uses? I have epiphany set in the settings/prefered apps... but update-manager is starting firefox | 19:09 |
| lc2 | the update manager runs as root, right | 19:09 |
| zoredache | parts of it do... but I had not provided my password yet | 19:10 |
| lc2 | oh | 19:11 |
| lc2 | meh, wtf | 19:11 |
| lc2 | maybe it's hard-coded | 19:11 |
| zoredache | the issue is... I have firefox2 install since several extensions not supported in ff3... Every time I forget and click a link in the update manager ff3 runs and trashes my firefox profile and deletes all my extensions | 19:12 |
| lc2 | oh :( | 19:12 |
| eca | 17 gigs used on my 80 gig hd, less than 1 gig in my home folder and i dont have that many programs installed. i tried apt-get autoclean, and deleting cached packages with synaptic- i dont think it worked though. what else should i look into? | 19:12 |
| lc2 | look in /tmp | 19:13 |
| lc2 | is this xubuntu? | 19:14 |
| eca | yes, 5kb in tmp | 19:14 |
| eca | dev is 1.8 gb | 19:14 |
| lc2 | ! | 19:14 |
| lc2 | okay, that's not right | 19:15 |
| lc2 | dev is (should be) a bunch of special files that don't really exist as such | 19:15 |
| lc2 | mine is 52k | 19:15 |
| lc2 | /dev* | 19:16 |
| lc2 | although, udev afaik isn't really a filesystem as such, either | 19:17 |
| lc2 | so maybe that's irrelevant | 19:17 |
| eca | lin is 1.1 gb | 19:17 |
| eca | */lib | 19:18 |
| lc2 | lin? | 19:18 |
| lc2 | oh | 19:18 |
| lc2 | makes sense | 19:18 |
| eca | proc 1.3 gb | 19:18 |
| eca | sys 230mb | 19:19 |
| lc2 | proc is a pseudo-filesystem | 19:19 |
| eca | usr is 1.6, var is 300mb. files dont even add up to 17, but thats what it says in thunar | 19:20 |
| lc2 | unless thunar is counting it wrong | 19:21 |
| lc2 | hm | 19:22 |
| eca | and partition editor | 19:22 |
| lc2 | heh what | 19:22 |
| eca | partion editor says 17 gb too | 19:23 |
| eca | used | 19:23 |
| zoredache | what is the xfce equivalent of gnome-open? | 19:23 |
| lc2 | hmmm | 19:23 |
| zoredache | eca: try running this perhaps - du --max-depth=1 -h / | 19:24 |
| eca | 2.7g | 19:25 |
| eca | geuss thats what its supposed to say | 19:26 |
| zoredache | eca: btw have you deleted some large files (perhaps logfiles) without restarting the service that was using them? | 19:26 |
| eca | probably | 19:26 |
| eca | i killed a bunch of services | 19:27 |
| eca | ith sys-conf | 19:27 |
| eca | with | 19:27 |
| zoredache | if a program has a file open, and you delete the file the blocks will still be allocated until the file handle is closed... You might try rebooting | 19:27 |
| eca | ive rebooted a bunch | 19:28 |
| eca | gotta go to work bbl | 19:29 |
| zoredache | hrm.... update-manager seems to be using gnome-open instead of exo-open | 19:34 |
| Balachmar | ok, I seem to have f***ed up my resolution, and now I cand read the text anymore | 19:38 |
| Balachmar | Can I select a resolution from the commandline? | 19:38 |
| Balachmar | ok, now the resolution is fine, but the menu is still so small that I cannot read it... | 19:40 |
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| === sean is now known as seanw | ||
| wiseman | I'm back | 21:28 |
| wiseman | shoop woop | 21:28 |
| wiseman | Hey, having more issues here, anyone care to lend some experience? | 21:28 |
| cppmonkey | Im running 8.04, Im just using it as a glorified router with PXE, I only have 2GB to play with as its a flash card. What apps can I remove without breaking the gui/ | 22:28 |
| cppmonkey | Brains2 | 22:29 |
| === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale | ||
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