[00:23] 1024 at the moment [00:25] I mean, the thinkwiki doesn't list many different resolutions... 2 models have 1024 as max [00:26] Ahh. [00:29] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60 [01:00] is it just me that can't get on to #ubuntu? [01:04] yes JebJoya2 [01:06] hmm... that's pretty odd... [01:06] JebJoya2 it seems to be caused by that java irc client you are using [01:06] ahh, fair enough [01:06] ...i just tried it [01:07] didn't really want to try installing anything on this vista machine :S [01:08] JebJoya2 you should file a bug there: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council [01:09] X-Chat runs on windows btw [01:09] oh, does it? i was just going to use mirc [01:10] http://www.silverex.org/download/ [01:10] lovely, got on using mirc, thanks for that Stroganoff, i'll try to file a bug report as well :) [01:11] ah, not worth it now i've got this up and running [01:11] want to use vista as little as humanly possible! [01:12] delete it then :p [01:12] cheers [01:17] anyone has a quick link to a tutorial for codecs and stuff for a fresh xubuntu install ? [01:20] cabuloso: hang on [01:22] cabuloso: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 [01:24] PsynoKhi0: thanks ! [01:25] np [02:11] Hi there [02:11] hi [02:11] Guess I forgot what to add after that. [02:15] Oh yeah, I had a question [02:16] The icons on my desktop are invisible, and don't show themselves until I put my mouse over where they are, what can I do about this? [02:17] first time I've heard this one... [02:17] what icons are there? [02:18] Could this be caused by running Conky? [02:18] as a deamon? [02:18] daemon* [02:18] yeah, i think [02:18] it's embedded in my desktop [02:19] under your icons? [02:19] are you using Xfce as your desktop manager? [02:19] no, i mentioned it because I was thinking it might be covering them up yes i am [02:19] wait [02:20] I'm running compiz [02:20] ah [02:20] always get confused with teh compiz [02:20] wait a second [02:20] no i'm not [02:20] I used to when i ran Ubuntu, but not now [02:20] i forgot i reformatted [02:21] I just thought I was because the Compositor is on [02:22] and I'm running AWN [02:22] so nevermind on the compiz [02:23] hmm what icons are we talking about? standard "Trash", "Home", "File System" ocr do you have more? [02:23] Just the standard ones and a icon for an external hard drive that i have plugged in, [02:24] Might have found it on good 'ole google though. I added 'conky' to my search terms, I'm gonna check the link [02:28] you could check your desktop settings (left click on a free area, settings, second tab, check all boxes at the bottom)... did you keep your /home partition while reformatting? [02:29] nope, I backed up files on an external drive, but luckily I think I found it in the FAQ's on Conky [02:29] http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html [02:30] ok [02:30] I'm gonna check it out and get back to you in a few [02:30] got to twiddle the config file [02:30] thought your theme might have some issues [02:31] hopefully the conky fix works [02:41] Isolated it to Conky. When I turned conky on manually (instead of turning it on automatically at startup) I saw the icons dissappear [02:42] weird [02:42] well at least you know [02:42] I think it's my custom config file, because I didn't have this problem with conky before [02:43] (I had a different config file) [02:43] could be [02:43] anyway, I'm gonna log off, thank you for your help [02:43] np, not like I did much heh [02:58] hey everyone! === wisema1 is now known as TheWiseman [02:59] I need some help! [02:59] hi [03:00] I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop here. I was running ubuntu before and ubuntu can read my windows partition fine, but xubuntu doesn't appear to see it. What can i do to rectify this? [03:01] hmm [03:01] I'd like to continue using xubuntu. I think I like it better than ubuntu or vista. [03:01] what kind of windows filesystem is it? NTFS? [03:01] yes [03:02] check that you have ntfs-3g installed [03:02] laptop shipped with vista, vista is NTFS [03:02] yep [03:02] like I said [03:03] regular ubuntu reads it just fine [03:03] do you still get the dual boot option? [03:04] yep [03:04] well actually triple boot. Ubuntu 19, ubuntu 16, and vista [03:04] 19? [03:04] 8.04.19 [03:05] ok [03:05] but I use 8.04.16 because the latest one doesn't seem to like my wireless no matter what I do [03:05] but that's a different story [03:06] what does your fstab look like? [03:06] (use the pastebin if needed please) [03:07] uh....fstab? pastebin? [03:07] ah [03:07] I've been up on linux for a couple weeks....my linux-fu is very weak still [03:07] check the file called fstab under /etc [03:08] one way to do it is to open a terminal and type [03:08] cat /etc/fstab [03:08] do NOT plaste the result here [03:08] paste* [03:09] ok....what am I looking for now? I've got it open [03:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com use this instead [03:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/20512/ [03:10] if you can access the root partition of an ubuntu version you know accesses your ntfs drive, you can compare the fstab file there with your xubuntu one [03:11] fstab = File System TABle [03:11] tells your gnu/linux box where drives are, what file system to use on them, privileges and so on [03:11] so what...I should boot into gnome, copy fstab, paste in xfce? [03:12] uh... [03:12] do you have ubuntuand xubuntu? or gnome and xfce on a same core? [03:12] gnome and xfce in the same core I think [03:13] I select "ubuntu 8.04.16" at startup, the login screen comes up, I select XFCE as the desktop I want, bob's your uncle. [03:13] ok [03:14] anyway, your fstab doesn't list any ntfs partition so no hcange you can get them automounted [03:14] no chance* [03:15] you'll have to edit fstab to do so [03:15] k [03:15] first you need to know what the partition vista is on is called [03:16] k [03:16] I'd say /dev/sda1 by the look of it [03:17] Well on gnome it sees it as a string of letters and numbers [03:17] yup [03:17] * TheWiseman begins to wonder if it's best to leave well enough alone and go back to gnome..... [03:18] however to get that string manually, you need to know the partiton :) [03:18] what do you mean? [03:18] what bugs me is that I don't see how installing a different desktop could mess up your fstab [03:19] dun dun DUN [03:19] brb, gonna go into gnome === wiseman is now known as TheWiseman [03:21] Back [03:21] What was that site where I pasted stuff into? [03:23] it's in the topic :) [03:24] oh hay [03:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/20513/ [03:27] hrm....comparing, there's nothing different at all [03:28] yet you can acces your vista partition? [03:29] access* [03:29] yep, plain as day [03:30] icons on your desktop and in the file manager? [03:31] not on the desktop immediately, but in the file manager [03:31] when I open in file manager, the icon appears on the desktop [03:32] ok [03:32] but not in xfce [03:33] nope [03:33] xfce shows only linux stuff [03:33] the file manager in gnome is cheating a bit :P [03:35] ? [03:35] cheating is fine if it works [03:36] yup but that kind of sucks cause that requires a bit more work [03:38] eh [03:38] I'll stick with gnome for now [03:38] I don't feel like getting into it yet [03:53] anyone used gfloppy? [03:53] it won't start for me [03:55] TheWiseman: what does "sudo fdisk -l" give you? [03:55] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [03:55] /dev/sda1 1 192 1536000 27 Unknown [03:55] Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. [03:55] /dev/sda2 * 192 22825 181799936 7 HPFS/NTFS [03:55] /dev/sda3 22826 24040 9759487+ 83 Linux [03:55] /dev/sda4 24041 30400 51086700 5 Extended [03:56] /dev/sda5 24041 24769 5855661 82 Linux swap / Solaris [03:56] /dev/sda6 24770 30400 45230976 83 Linux [03:56] ffs dude! pastebin! [03:56] Oh come on....it's not like this room is moving at terrible speed [03:56] lol [03:56] simmer down [03:57] besides, it's only like 7 lines [03:57] what are you trying to figure out? [03:57] why xfce doesn't see my windows partition but gnome does [03:58] hmm, perhaps there's something gnome autoloads that xfce doesn't? [03:58] sorry I don't really know [03:58] xbj9000: makes sense to me [03:58] have you tried mounting it by hand? [03:59] n00b here [03:59] whats the name of that disk mounting tool [03:59] Nobody has told me how to do that [03:59] google it [03:59] !ntfs | TheWiseman [03:59] TheWiseman: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE [03:59] error codes, commands, whenever in doubt google and read [03:59] what is your fstab line for the windows partition? [03:59] sudo fdisk -l will tell you [04:00] xbj9000: he has none [04:00] that's what I'm trying to make him do now [04:00] oh hay [04:00] no fstab? how is that possible? [04:00] I have fstab [04:00] so /dev/sda2 is your windows partiton [04:00] aparently [04:01] he has fstab, not ntfs partition line in it [04:01] ah [04:01] ok thne: [04:01] then* [04:01] sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda2 [04:02] ok....let's rock this shit [04:02] fstab should be something like: [04:02] ok PsynoKhi0 [04:02] now what [04:03] it gave me a string of letters and numbers [04:03] dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 [04:03] TheWiseman: backup your fstab with "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak" [04:03] ntfs-3g? [04:03] k, backed up PsynoKhi0 [04:03] also you must create your mount folder (/media/windows) [04:04] oh hey, hang on a sec [04:04] yeah unless I forgot something you use ntfs-3g [04:04] I think ubuntu now reads ntfs the same as ntfs-3g though [04:04] hang on, in gnome the drive is located in media. I never thought to look there. [04:04] so maybe you can use either, hang on I'll make sure [04:05] I was just looking on the main bit. Hang on. [04:05] TheWiseman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506 [04:05] yeah ntfs-3g [04:05] PsynoKhi0: I don't want to restrict access to the windows partition [04:06] brb, gonna log out and into xfce [04:06] no, but there's a nice fstab in there [04:06] BAH [04:06] so nobody has used gfloppy? [04:07] help my system is goin crazy,its using 1.9 gig of my 2 gig ram and i cant see whats hoggin. iv got kmess runnin konversation and limewire [04:07] xfce is being a huge pain about floppies for me [04:07] it's limewire lol [04:07] most likely [04:07] limewire is usin 2 gig of ram [04:08] in terminal type top and see what's using the most cpu [04:08] probably the same program is using the most ram also [04:08] 49% is goin to java [04:08] actually top will even tell you what's using a lot of ram [04:08] %MEM [04:09] of cpu [04:09] 126.7 mem [04:09] mb [04:09] 126.7%?? [04:09] 126.7 mib [04:10] where did you see that, top gives percents [04:10] sorry [04:11] oh hai [04:11] im in system monitor and none are really goin crazy on the mem but java is takin 50%of my cpu [04:11] PsynoKhi0: ok, I'm now in xfce [04:11] yeah java is bad like that [04:12] I suggest trying gtk-gnutella, or at least frostwire [04:12] still it shouldn't be using that much ram [04:12] ok, it doesn't see the windows drive in media either. [04:12] so let's continue where we left off [04:12] ok [04:12] well thats no good how can i correct this its a pd 3 gig with 2 gigs ram i only have 3 things runnin and im maxed [04:13] I'm not sure shane_ [04:13] wiseman, your windows is /dev/sda2 right? [04:13] oh wait i see i have 1.6 gig of swap hapanin somehow [04:13] wiseman: do you still have that link I gave you? [04:13] 1.6 used? [04:14] no, it's gone [04:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506 [04:14] there's a fstab line in there that might be of insterest [04:14] search the page for /dev/sda1 [04:15] I think I see what you're talking about [04:15] but the /dev/sda2 isn't in my fstab at all [04:15] should I add it? [04:15] yep [04:15] here's the line from the ubuntu manual [04:15] /media/ ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 [04:16] so... [04:16] do I put the # in front of it like the other ones have? [04:16] /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale-en_US.utf8 0 0 [04:17] lines with # are not read by the system, they are notes for your benefit [04:17] ok [04:17] do I need to put in that string of letters and numbers? [04:17] you will also have to create the mount point, with a command like sudo mkdir /media/windows [04:17] the uuid? no [04:18] also you can use another name besides /media/windows, that is just my example [04:18] uh....I try to save and it says "cannot open file to write" [04:19] oh you are editing it as a regular user [04:19] open a terminal and type sudo nano /etc/fstab [04:19] add the line at the bottom, then ctrl+O then ctrl+X [04:20] if you aren't comfortable with that, use sudo mousepad /etc/fstab [04:21] ok, the deed is done [04:21] now you must reboot [04:22] ZOMG REBOOT?!!!!1 BUT THIS IS LINUX [04:22] lol [04:22] for it to be read again and take effect, that is.. however [04:22] K [04:22] to go ahead and mount it by hand [04:22] type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/windows [04:22] over the river and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go [04:23] is there somethin i can do a terminal comand that will show what is hapaning ive shut down limewire and i have kmess runnin and konversation yet im still ussin 1.8 gigs of ram and only 8% of a 3 gig dual core cpu this isnt makin sense [04:23] k xbj9000. [04:23] Reboot now? [04:23] to make sure the fstab is right, yes I would [04:24] OH HAY [04:24] the windows folder is working now [04:24] :) [04:24] restarting just verifies that the fstab file is working correctly, right? [04:24] yeah when your system starts it reads fstab and mounts partitions accordingly [04:24] * wiseman chugs a beer [04:24] HOOOAH [04:25] I'm sure it's correct though [04:26] thank you all so much! [04:26] sure [04:26] me using linux is like a bear flying a space shuttle though [04:27] pretty new? [04:27] very green I'm afraid [04:27] it's ok [04:27] I was appalled by the fact that I had to get a computer with 3 gigs of RAM [04:27] stupid vista [04:27] ? [04:27] lol [04:27] oh shane_ sorry for forgetting about you [04:28] so I talked to the only people I knew who were nerdier than me, and they reccomended I try out linux [04:28] I'm not sure how to find out what's hogging ram I'll look around [04:28] xbj9000: is there anything in xubuntu that could hog that much ram it stopped on its own whatever it was but thats not normal [04:28] hmm [04:28] does it happen regularly? [04:28] it almost locked my system complete [04:29] no first time tonight and i installed java and lime today [04:29] it's probably related [04:29] did you install the real java or one of the open alternatives? [04:29] so get rid of them or is java needed by other apps [04:29] no with lime it took the real java not a clone [04:29] limewire is probably the only thing you use java for, but it's sometimes used by websites [04:30] 64 bit or 32 bit system? [04:30] 32 [04:30] ok, off to watch Machine Girl. L8rs and thanks again! [04:30] did you do sudo update-alternatives --configure java [04:31] sorry [04:31] --config java I meant [04:31] no [04:31] but you did do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre? [04:32] no when i ran package manager to install limewire it all auto installed [04:32] ah [04:32] well do sudo update-alternatives --config java and see if the sun version is the selected default [04:33] also I really recommend using frostwire instead [04:33] it has 2 selections [04:33] also I have a Tango icon theme I made for limewire / frostwire if you want it :) [04:33] java 6 sun and java 6 open [04:33] ok type the number for sun and enter [04:34] i think its a conflict with the javas [04:34] 2 [04:34] that could be the problem [04:34] I mean don't tell me the number, select it in the terminal [04:34] i think so the 2 where conflicting i never even thought of that today [04:34] well it uses one or the other [04:35] it's possible limewire was using the open one and having some issue with it [04:35] you can leave them both installed but you have to do the command I showed you and select sun [04:35] mabey i dunno ill run lime back up now and see what happens i think all good now though [04:35] frostwire is identical but has no ads [04:36] i couldnt get frost to go and i did the dos swap over for there errors [04:36] and gtk-gnutella does the same things and doesn't use java at all [04:36] gtk i didnt like at all [04:37] yeah it's a little complicated [04:37] dos swap over? [04:37] i had ktorrent and i liked it but last nite i guess the server had probs and i couldnt get it to work good this mornin [04:37] try deluge for torrents [04:37] yah when i install frost it gives icon and no function it doesnt open [04:37] sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent [04:38] did you try frostwire after setting the java to sun? [04:38] well i guess when the frost team built the program they built it on a win sys so the linux app was made in dos format lol [04:38] search it i laughed [04:38] ? [04:39] did you install some windows version with WINE or something? [04:40] http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4 [04:40] read that [04:40] thats what i did [04:41] i thought it funny [04:41] that's old [04:42] direct link to frostwire for ubuntu: [04:42] http://www.frostwire.com/download/?os=ubuntu&from= [04:42] lol well i got the newest version from there site and it was for deb linux [04:42] when i searched the prob thats the only thing i could find [04:43] yup thats the same one i used [04:43] weird [04:43] either way ill try and install again,will frost and lime conflict also [04:44] or should i remove limewire [04:44] I don't think they conflict [04:44] k ill run it up now and see what i get [04:46] i wonder if it was that i didnt have sun in with lime it took it itself but frost didnt do that [04:46] could be [04:46] it opened quick and cleen [04:46] working now? [04:46] good [04:46] yup [04:46] now since you use xubuntu let me find you my tango theme :p [04:46] well oil beef hooked [04:47] kk [04:47] lol what? [04:47] ok ill try ur them [04:47] say it fast [04:48] lol [04:49] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805337&highlight=frostwire+tango [04:50] here's a pic [04:50] http://electronicplaygirl.com/Linux/screenshots/frostwire_tango1.png [04:52] that looks good [04:52] thanks [04:53] now how do i add a theme [04:54] heh I forget [04:54] lemme see [04:57] I don't have it on this computer so I'm having a hard time, I made that skin a while back [04:58] ill search it out and find it [04:58] I think you just copy it into .frostwire or .limewire in /home/username [04:59] also ,you have xubu ? [04:59] xubuntu [05:01] yes [05:01] on this machine [05:01]