[00:23] <aestetix> 1024 at the moment
[00:25] <PsynoKhi0> I mean, the thinkwiki doesn't list many different resolutions... 2 models have 1024 as max
[00:26] <aestetix> Ahh.
[00:29] <PsynoKhi0> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60
[01:00] <JebJoya2> is it just me that can't get on to #ubuntu?
[01:04] <Stroganoff> yes JebJoya2
[01:06] <JebJoya2> hmm... that's pretty odd...
[01:06] <Stroganoff> JebJoya2 it seems to be caused by that java irc client you are using
[01:06] <JebJoya2> ahh, fair enough
[01:06] <shitstorm> ...i just tried it
[01:07] <JebJoya2> didn't really want to try installing anything on this vista machine :S
[01:08] <Stroganoff> JebJoya2 you should file a bug there: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council
[01:09] <Stroganoff> X-Chat runs on windows btw
[01:09] <JebJoya2> oh, does it? i was just going to use mirc
[01:10] <Stroganoff> http://www.silverex.org/download/
[01:10] <JebJoya2> lovely, got on using mirc, thanks for that Stroganoff, i'll try to file a bug report as well :)
[01:11] <JebJoya2> ah, not worth it now i've got this up and running
[01:11] <JebJoya2> want to use vista as little as humanly possible!
[01:12] <Stroganoff> delete it then :p
[01:12] <Stroganoff> cheers
[01:17] <cabuloso> anyone has a quick link to a tutorial for codecs and stuff for a fresh xubuntu install ?
[01:20] <PsynoKhi0> cabuloso: hang on
[01:22] <PsynoKhi0> cabuloso: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[01:24] <cabuloso> PsynoKhi0: thanks !
[01:25] <PsynoKhi0> np
[02:11] <Aggrocrag> Hi there
[02:11] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[02:11] <Aggrocrag> Guess I forgot what to add after that.
[02:15] <Aggrocrag> Oh yeah, I had a question
[02:16] <Aggrocrag> The icons on my desktop are invisible, and don't show themselves until I put my mouse over where they are, what can I do about this?
[02:17] <PsynoKhi0> first time I've heard this one...
[02:17] <PsynoKhi0> what icons are there?
[02:18] <Aggrocrag> Could this be caused by running Conky?
[02:18] <PsynoKhi0> as a deamon?
[02:18] <PsynoKhi0> daemon*
[02:18] <Aggrocrag> yeah, i think
[02:18] <Aggrocrag> it's embedded in my desktop
[02:19] <PsynoKhi0> under your icons?
[02:19] <PsynoKhi0> are you using Xfce as your desktop manager?
[02:19] <Aggrocrag> no, i mentioned it because I was thinking it might be covering them up               yes i am
[02:19] <Aggrocrag> wait
[02:20] <Aggrocrag> I'm running compiz
[02:20] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[02:20] <Aggrocrag> always get confused with teh compiz
[02:20] <Aggrocrag> wait a second
[02:20] <Aggrocrag> no i'm not
[02:20] <Aggrocrag> I used to when i ran Ubuntu, but not now
[02:20] <Aggrocrag> i forgot i reformatted
[02:21] <Aggrocrag> I just thought I was because the Compositor is on
[02:22] <Aggrocrag> and I'm running AWN
[02:22] <Aggrocrag> so nevermind on the compiz
[02:23] <PsynoKhi0> hmm what icons are we talking about? standard "Trash", "Home", "File System" ocr do you have more?
[02:23] <Aggrocrag> Just the standard ones and a icon for an external hard drive that i have plugged in,
[02:24] <Aggrocrag> Might have found it on good 'ole google though.  I added 'conky' to my search terms,  I'm gonna check the link
[02:28] <PsynoKhi0> you could check your desktop settings (left click on a free area, settings, second tab, check all boxes at the bottom)... did you keep your /home partition while reformatting?
[02:29] <Aggrocrag> nope, I backed up files on an external drive, but luckily I think I found it in the FAQ's on Conky
[02:29] <Aggrocrag> http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[02:30] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[02:30] <Aggrocrag> I'm gonna check it out and get back to you in a few
[02:30] <Aggrocrag> got to twiddle the config file
[02:30] <PsynoKhi0> thought your theme might have some issues
[02:31] <Aggrocrag> hopefully the conky fix works
[02:41] <Aggrocrag> Isolated it to Conky.  When I turned conky on manually (instead of turning it on automatically at startup)  I saw the icons dissappear
[02:42] <PsynoKhi0> weird
[02:42] <PsynoKhi0> well at least you know
[02:42] <Aggrocrag> I think it's my custom config file, because I didn't have this problem with conky before
[02:43] <Aggrocrag> (I had a different config file)
[02:43] <PsynoKhi0> could be
[02:43] <Aggrocrag> anyway, I'm gonna log off, thank you for your help
[02:43] <PsynoKhi0> np, not like I did much heh
[02:58] <wisema1> hey everyone!
[02:59] <TheWiseman> I need some help!
[02:59] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[03:00] <TheWiseman> I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop here.  I was running ubuntu before and ubuntu can read my windows partition fine, but xubuntu doesn't appear to see it.  What can i do to rectify this?
[03:01] <PsynoKhi0> hmm
[03:01] <TheWiseman> I'd like to continue using xubuntu.  I think I like it better than ubuntu or vista.
[03:01] <PsynoKhi0> what kind of windows filesystem is it? NTFS?
[03:01] <TheWiseman> yes
[03:02] <PsynoKhi0> check that you have ntfs-3g installed
[03:02] <TheWiseman> laptop shipped with vista, vista is NTFS
[03:02] <TheWiseman> yep
[03:02] <TheWiseman> like I said
[03:03] <TheWiseman> regular ubuntu reads it just fine
[03:03] <PsynoKhi0> do you still get the dual boot option?
[03:04] <TheWiseman> yep
[03:04] <TheWiseman> well actually triple boot.  Ubuntu 19, ubuntu 16, and vista
[03:04] <PsynoKhi0> 19?
[03:04] <TheWiseman> 8.04.19
[03:05] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[03:05] <TheWiseman> but I use 8.04.16 because the latest one doesn't seem to like my wireless no matter what I do
[03:05] <TheWiseman> but that's a different story
[03:06] <PsynoKhi0> what does your fstab look like?
[03:06] <PsynoKhi0> (use the pastebin if needed please)
[03:07] <TheWiseman> uh....fstab?  pastebin?
[03:07] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[03:07] <TheWiseman> I've been up on linux for a couple weeks....my linux-fu is very weak still
[03:07] <PsynoKhi0> check the file called fstab under /etc
[03:08] <PsynoKhi0> one way to do it is to open a terminal and type
[03:08] <PsynoKhi0> cat /etc/fstab
[03:08] <PsynoKhi0> do NOT plaste the result here
[03:08] <PsynoKhi0> paste*
[03:09] <TheWiseman> ok....what am I looking for now?  I've got it open
[03:09] <PsynoKhi0> http://paste.ubuntu.com use this instead
[03:10] <TheWiseman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20512/
[03:10] <PsynoKhi0> if you can access the root partition of an ubuntu version you know accesses your ntfs drive, you can compare the fstab file there with your xubuntu one
[03:11] <PsynoKhi0> fstab = File System TABle
[03:11] <PsynoKhi0> tells your gnu/linux box where drives are, what file system to use on them, privileges and so on
[03:11] <TheWiseman> so what...I should boot into gnome, copy fstab, paste in xfce?
[03:12] <PsynoKhi0> uh...
[03:12] <PsynoKhi0> do you have ubuntuand xubuntu? or gnome and xfce on a same core?
[03:12] <TheWiseman> gnome and xfce in the same core I think
[03:13] <TheWiseman> I select "ubuntu 8.04.16" at startup, the login screen comes up, I select XFCE as the desktop I want, bob's your uncle.
[03:13] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[03:14] <PsynoKhi0> anyway, your fstab doesn't list any ntfs partition so no hcange you can get them automounted
[03:14] <PsynoKhi0> no chance*
[03:15] <PsynoKhi0> you'll have to edit fstab to do so
[03:15] <TheWiseman> k
[03:15] <PsynoKhi0> first you need to know what the partition vista is on is called
[03:16] <TheWiseman> k
[03:16] <PsynoKhi0> I'd say /dev/sda1 by the look of it
[03:17] <TheWiseman> Well on gnome it sees it as a string of letters and numbers
[03:17] <PsynoKhi0> yup
[03:17]  * TheWiseman begins to wonder if it's best to leave well enough alone and go back to gnome.....
[03:18] <PsynoKhi0> however to get that string manually, you need to know the partiton :)
[03:18] <TheWiseman> what do you mean?
[03:18] <PsynoKhi0> what bugs me is that I don't see how installing a different desktop could mess up your fstab
[03:19] <TheWiseman> dun dun DUN
[03:19] <TheWiseman> brb, gonna go into gnome
[03:21] <TheWiseman> Back
[03:21] <TheWiseman> What was that site where I pasted stuff into?
[03:23] <PsynoKhi0> it's in the topic :)
[03:24] <TheWiseman> oh hay
[03:26] <TheWiseman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20513/
[03:27] <TheWiseman> hrm....comparing, there's nothing different at all
[03:28] <PsynoKhi0> yet you can acces your vista partition?
[03:29] <PsynoKhi0> access*
[03:29] <TheWiseman> yep, plain as day
[03:30] <PsynoKhi0> icons on your desktop and in the file manager?
[03:31] <TheWiseman> not on the desktop immediately, but in the file manager
[03:31] <TheWiseman> when I open in file manager, the icon appears on the desktop
[03:32] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[03:32] <PsynoKhi0> but not in xfce
[03:33] <TheWiseman> nope
[03:33] <TheWiseman> xfce shows only linux stuff
[03:33] <PsynoKhi0> the file manager in gnome is cheating a bit :P
[03:35] <TheWiseman> ?
[03:35] <TheWiseman> cheating is fine if it works
[03:36] <PsynoKhi0> yup but that kind of sucks cause that requires a bit more work
[03:38] <TheWiseman> eh
[03:38] <TheWiseman> I'll stick with gnome for now
[03:38] <TheWiseman> I don't feel like getting into it yet
[03:53] <xbj9000> anyone used gfloppy?
[03:53] <xbj9000> it won't start for me
[03:55] <PsynoKhi0> TheWiseman: what does "sudo fdisk -l" give you?
[03:55] <TheWiseman>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda1               1         192     1536000   27  Unknown
[03:55] <TheWiseman> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda2   *         192       22825   181799936    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda3           22826       24040     9759487+  83  Linux
[03:55] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda4           24041       30400    51086700    5  Extended
[03:56] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda5           24041       24769     5855661   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:56] <TheWiseman> /dev/sda6           24770       30400    45230976   83  Linux
[03:56] <PsynoKhi0> ffs dude! pastebin!
[03:56] <TheWiseman> Oh come on....it's not like this room is moving at terrible speed
[03:56] <xbj9000> lol
[03:56] <TheWiseman> simmer down
[03:57] <TheWiseman> besides, it's only like 7 lines
[03:57] <xbj9000> what are you trying to figure out?
[03:57] <TheWiseman> why xfce doesn't see my windows partition but gnome does
[03:58] <xbj9000> hmm, perhaps there's something gnome autoloads that xfce doesn't?
[03:58] <xbj9000> sorry I don't really know
[03:58] <TheWiseman> xbj9000: makes sense to me
[03:58] <zoredache> have you tried mounting it by hand?
[03:59] <TheWiseman> n00b here
[03:59] <magic_ninja> whats the name of that disk mounting tool
[03:59] <TheWiseman> Nobody has told me how to do that
[03:59] <magic_ninja> google it
[03:59] <zoredache> !ntfs | TheWiseman
[03:59] <magic_ninja> error codes, commands, whenever in doubt google and read
[03:59] <xbj9000> what is your fstab line for the windows partition?
[03:59] <magic_ninja> sudo fdisk -l will tell you
[04:00] <PsynoKhi0> xbj9000: he has none
[04:00] <PsynoKhi0> that's what I'm trying to make him do now
[04:00] <TheWiseman> oh hay
[04:00] <xbj9000> no fstab?  how is that possible?
[04:00] <TheWiseman> I have fstab
[04:00] <PsynoKhi0> so /dev/sda2 is your windows partiton
[04:00] <TheWiseman> aparently
[04:01] <PsynoKhi0> he has fstab, not ntfs partition line in it
[04:01] <xbj9000> ah
[04:01] <PsynoKhi0> ok thne:
[04:01] <PsynoKhi0> then*
[04:01] <PsynoKhi0> sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda2
[04:02] <TheWiseman> ok....let's rock this shit
[04:02] <xbj9000> fstab should be something like:
[04:02] <TheWiseman> ok PsynoKhi0
[04:02] <TheWiseman> now what
[04:03] <TheWiseman> it gave me a string of letters and numbers
[04:03] <xbj9000> dev/sda2   /media/windows   ntfs-3g    defaults 0 0
[04:03] <PsynoKhi0> TheWiseman: backup your fstab with "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak"
[04:03] <PsynoKhi0> ntfs-3g?
[04:03] <TheWiseman> k, backed up PsynoKhi0
[04:03] <xbj9000> also you must create your mount folder (/media/windows)
[04:04] <TheWiseman> oh hey, hang on a sec
[04:04] <xbj9000> yeah unless I forgot something you use ntfs-3g
[04:04] <xbj9000> I think ubuntu now reads ntfs the same as ntfs-3g though
[04:04] <TheWiseman> hang on, in gnome the drive is located in media.  I never thought to look there.
[04:04] <xbj9000> so maybe you can use either, hang on I'll make sure
[04:05] <TheWiseman> I was just looking on the main bit.  Hang on.
[04:05] <PsynoKhi0> TheWiseman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506
[04:05] <xbj9000> yeah ntfs-3g
[04:05] <TheWiseman> PsynoKhi0: I don't want to restrict access to the windows partition
[04:06] <TheWiseman> brb, gonna log out and into xfce
[04:06] <PsynoKhi0> no, but there's a nice fstab in there
[04:06] <PsynoKhi0> BAH
[04:06] <xbj9000> so nobody has used gfloppy?
[04:07] <shane_> help my system is goin crazy,its using 1.9 gig of my 2 gig ram and i cant see whats hoggin. iv got kmess runnin konversation and limewire
[04:07] <xbj9000> xfce is being a huge pain about floppies for me
[04:07] <xbj9000> it's limewire lol
[04:07] <xbj9000> most likely
[04:07] <shane_> limewire is usin 2 gig of ram
[04:08] <xbj9000> in terminal type top and see what's using the most cpu
[04:08] <xbj9000> probably the same program is using the most ram also
[04:08] <shane_> 49% is goin to java
[04:08] <xbj9000> actually top will even tell you what's using a lot of ram
[04:08] <xbj9000> %MEM
[04:09] <shane_> of cpu
[04:09] <shane_> 126.7 mem
[04:09] <shane_> mb
[04:09] <xbj9000> 126.7%??
[04:09] <shane_> 126.7 mib
[04:10] <xbj9000> where did you see that, top gives percents
[04:10] <xbj9000> sorry
[04:11] <wiseman> oh hai
[04:11] <shane_> im in system monitor and none are really goin crazy on the mem but java is takin 50%of my cpu
[04:11] <wiseman> PsynoKhi0: ok, I'm now in xfce
[04:11] <xbj9000> yeah java is bad like that
[04:12] <xbj9000> I suggest trying gtk-gnutella, or at least frostwire
[04:12] <xbj9000> still it shouldn't be using that much ram
[04:12] <wiseman> ok, it doesn't see the windows drive in media either.
[04:12] <wiseman> so let's continue where we left off
[04:12] <xbj9000> ok
[04:12] <shane_> well thats no good how can i correct this its a pd 3 gig with 2 gigs ram i only have 3 things runnin and im maxed
[04:13] <xbj9000> I'm not sure shane_
[04:13] <xbj9000> wiseman, your windows is /dev/sda2 right?
[04:13] <shane_> oh wait i see i have 1.6 gig of swap hapanin somehow
[04:13] <PsynoKhi0> wiseman: do you still have that link I gave you?
[04:13] <xbj9000> 1.6 used?
[04:14] <wiseman> no, it's gone
[04:14] <PsynoKhi0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670506
[04:14] <PsynoKhi0> there's a fstab line in there that might be of insterest
[04:14] <PsynoKhi0> search the page for /dev/sda1
[04:15] <wiseman> I think I see what you're talking about
[04:15] <wiseman> but the /dev/sda2 isn't in my fstab at all
[04:15] <wiseman> should I add it?
[04:15] <PsynoKhi0> yep
[04:15] <xbj9000> here's the line from the ubuntu manual
[04:15] <xbj9000> <your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[04:16] <xbj9000> so...
[04:16] <wiseman> do I put the # in front of it like the other ones have?
[04:16] <xbj9000> /dev/sda2   /media/windows  ntfs-3g  defaults,locale-en_US.utf8   0   0
[04:17] <xbj9000> lines with # are not read by the system, they are notes for your benefit
[04:17] <wiseman> ok
[04:17] <wiseman> do I need to put in that string of letters and numbers?
[04:17] <xbj9000> you will also have to create the mount point, with a command like sudo mkdir /media/windows
[04:17] <xbj9000> the uuid?  no
[04:18] <xbj9000> also you can use another name besides /media/windows, that is just my example
[04:18] <wiseman> uh....I try to save and it says "cannot open file to write"
[04:19] <xbj9000> oh you are editing it as a regular user
[04:19] <xbj9000> open a terminal and type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:19] <xbj9000> add the line at the bottom, then ctrl+O  then ctrl+X
[04:20] <xbj9000> if you aren't comfortable with that, use sudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[04:21] <wiseman> ok, the deed is done
[04:21] <xbj9000> now you must reboot
[04:22] <wiseman> ZOMG REBOOT?!!!!1 BUT THIS IS LINUX
[04:22] <xbj9000> lol
[04:22] <xbj9000> for it to be read again and take effect, that is..  however
[04:22] <wiseman> K
[04:22] <xbj9000> to go ahead and mount it by hand
[04:22] <xbj9000> type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/windows
[04:22] <wiseman> over the river and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go
[04:23] <shane_> is there somethin i can do a terminal comand that will show what is hapaning ive shut down limewire and i have kmess runnin and konversation yet im still ussin 1.8 gigs of ram and only 8% of a 3 gig dual core cpu this isnt makin sense
[04:23] <wiseman> k xbj9000.
[04:23] <wiseman> Reboot now?
[04:23] <xbj9000> to make sure the fstab is right, yes I would
[04:24] <wiseman> OH HAY
[04:24] <wiseman> the windows folder is working now
[04:24] <xbj9000> :)
[04:24] <wiseman> restarting just verifies that the fstab file is working correctly, right?
[04:24] <xbj9000> yeah when your system starts it reads fstab and mounts partitions accordingly
[04:24]  * wiseman chugs a beer
[04:24] <wiseman> HOOOAH
[04:25] <xbj9000> I'm sure it's correct though
[04:26] <wiseman> thank you all so much!
[04:26] <xbj9000> sure
[04:26] <wiseman> me using linux is like a bear flying a space shuttle though
[04:27] <xbj9000> pretty new?
[04:27] <wiseman> very green I'm afraid
[04:27] <xbj9000> it's ok
[04:27] <wiseman> I was appalled by the fact that I had to get a computer with 3 gigs of RAM
[04:27] <wiseman> stupid vista
[04:27] <xbj9000> ?
[04:27] <xbj9000> lol
[04:27] <xbj9000> oh shane_ sorry for forgetting about you
[04:28] <wiseman> so I talked to the only people I knew who were nerdier than me, and they reccomended I try out linux
[04:28] <xbj9000> I'm not sure how to find out what's hogging ram I'll look around
[04:28] <shane_> xbj9000: is there anything in xubuntu that could hog that much ram it stopped on its own whatever it was but thats not normal
[04:28] <xbj9000> hmm
[04:28] <xbj9000> does it happen regularly?
[04:28] <shane_> it almost locked my system complete
[04:29] <shane_> no first time tonight and i installed java and lime today
[04:29] <xbj9000> it's probably related
[04:29] <xbj9000> did you install the real java or one of the open alternatives?
[04:29] <shane_> so get rid of them or is java needed by other apps
[04:29] <shane_> no with lime it took the real java not a clone
[04:29] <xbj9000> limewire is probably the only thing you use java for, but it's sometimes used by websites
[04:30] <xbj9000> 64 bit or 32 bit system?
[04:30] <shane_> 32
[04:30] <wiseman> ok, off to watch Machine Girl.  L8rs and thanks again!
[04:30] <xbj9000> did you do sudo update-alternatives --configure java
[04:31] <xbj9000> sorry
[04:31] <xbj9000> --config java I meant
[04:31] <shane_> no
[04:31] <xbj9000> but you did do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre?
[04:32] <shane_> no when i ran package manager to install limewire it all auto installed
[04:32] <xbj9000> ah
[04:32] <xbj9000> well do sudo update-alternatives --config java and see if the sun version is the selected default
[04:33] <xbj9000> also I really recommend using frostwire instead
[04:33] <shane_> it has 2 selections
[04:33] <xbj9000> also I have a Tango icon theme I made for limewire / frostwire if you want it  :)
[04:33] <shane_> java 6 sun and java 6 open
[04:33] <xbj9000> ok type the number for sun and enter
[04:34] <shane_> i think its a conflict with the javas
[04:34] <shane_> 2
[04:34] <xbj9000> that could be the problem
[04:34] <xbj9000> I mean don't tell me the number, select it in the terminal
[04:34] <shane_> i think so the 2 where conflicting i never even thought of that today
[04:34] <xbj9000> well it uses one or the other
[04:35] <xbj9000> it's possible limewire was using the open one and having some issue with it
[04:35] <xbj9000> you can leave them both installed but you have to do the command I showed you and select sun
[04:35] <shane_> mabey i dunno ill run lime back up now and see what happens i think all good now though
[04:35] <xbj9000> frostwire is identical but has no ads
[04:36] <shane_> i couldnt get frost to go and i did the dos swap over for there errors
[04:36] <xbj9000> and gtk-gnutella does the same things and doesn't use java at all
[04:36] <shane_> gtk i didnt like at all
[04:37] <xbj9000> yeah it's a little complicated
[04:37] <xbj9000> dos swap over?
[04:37] <shane_> i had ktorrent and i liked it but last nite i guess the server had probs and i couldnt get it to work good this mornin
[04:37] <xbj9000> try deluge for torrents
[04:37] <shane_> yah when i install frost it gives icon and no function it doesnt open
[04:37] <xbj9000> sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent
[04:38] <xbj9000> did you try frostwire after setting the java to sun?
[04:38] <shane_> well i guess when the frost team built the program they built it on a win sys so the linux app was made in dos format lol
[04:38] <shane_> search it i laughed
[04:38] <xbj9000> ?
[04:39] <xbj9000> did you install some windows version with WINE or something?
[04:40] <shane_> http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4
[04:40] <shane_> read that
[04:40] <shane_> thats what i did
[04:41] <shane_> i thought it funny
[04:41] <xbj9000> that's old
[04:42] <xbj9000> direct link to frostwire for ubuntu:
[04:42] <xbj9000> http://www.frostwire.com/download/?os=ubuntu&from=
[04:42] <shane_> lol well i got the newest version from there site and it was for deb linux
[04:42] <shane_> when i searched the prob thats the only thing i could find
[04:43] <shane_> yup thats the same one i used
[04:43] <xbj9000> weird
[04:43] <shane_> either way ill try and install again,will frost and lime conflict also
[04:44] <shane_> or should i remove  limewire
[04:44] <xbj9000> I don't think they conflict
[04:44] <shane_> k ill run it up now and see what i get
[04:46] <shane_> i wonder if it was that i didnt have sun in with lime it took it itself but frost didnt do that
[04:46] <xbj9000> could be
[04:46] <shane_> it opened quick and cleen
[04:46] <xbj9000> working now?
[04:46] <xbj9000> good
[04:46] <shane_> yup
[04:46] <xbj9000> now since you use xubuntu let me find you my tango theme  :p
[04:46] <shane_> well oil beef hooked
[04:47] <shane_> kk
[04:47] <xbj9000> lol what?
[04:47] <shane_> ok ill try ur them
[04:47] <shane_> say it fast
[04:48] <xbj9000> lol
[04:49] <xbj9000> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805337&highlight=frostwire+tango
[04:50] <xbj9000> here's a pic
[04:50] <xbj9000> http://electronicplaygirl.com/Linux/screenshots/frostwire_tango1.png
[04:52] <shane_> that looks good
[04:52] <xbj9000> thanks
[04:53] <shane_> now how do i add a theme
[04:54] <xbj9000> heh I forget
[04:54] <xbj9000> lemme see
[04:57] <xbj9000> I don't have it on this computer so I'm having a hard time, I made that skin a while back
[04:58] <shane_> ill search it out and find it
[04:58] <xbj9000> I think you just copy it into .frostwire or .limewire in /home/username
[04:59] <shane_> also ,you have xubu ?
[04:59] <shane_> xubuntu
[05:01] <xbj9000> yes
[05:01] <xbj9000> on this machine
[05:01] <shane_> ok how do i make it so i havefrost in the top right corner when i close it
[05:02] <xbj9000> you mean you want to leave it running minimized to the tray?
[05:02] <shane_> yes
[05:02] <shane_> when i close out limewire it stays up till i exit
[05:02] <shane_> as do most p2p apps but frost shuts down
[05:03] <xbj9000> hang on I just installed it
[05:03] <shane_> ok
[05:03] <xbj9000> it may not run on this 500MHz  lol
[05:03] <shane_> wow thats an old one
[05:03] <xbj9000> yeah building it for someone
[05:04] <xbj9000> does pretty much everything ok besides flash
[05:04] <shane_> yah i just put together a celleron 1 gig from parts outa the basement
[05:04] <xbj9000> but that's nothing I also have a toshiba 'laptop' from 1990
[05:04] <xbj9000> 1mb ram
[05:04] <shane_> wow
[05:04] <xbj9000> lol
[05:04] <shane_> lol thats a smokin unit
[05:04] <xbj9000> yeah I just got it
[05:04] <xbj9000> installed DOS and duke nukem 1 & 2
[05:05] <shane_> ive only got the 3 runnin now
[05:05] <PsynoKhi0> xbj9000: if you get your 500MHz machine to play H264 videos, let me know how you manage
[05:05] <shane_> pd 3 gig a p4 2 gig and my cellory 1 gig
[05:05] <xbj9000> I doubt it, I've never even seen one of those
[05:05] <xbj9000> H264 that is
[05:05] <shane_> h264 vid's
[05:05] <PsynoKhi0> high definition AVI
[05:05] <shane_> iv never heard of them
[05:06] <shane_> ow wow yah i doubt thatl happen
[05:06] <xbj9000> I've seen the name in menus but never encountered one
[05:06] <xbj9000> try vlc?
[05:06] <shane_> that cpu will shut out from heat
[05:06] <shane_> the vic 20,s
[05:06] <xbj9000> may have to resort to converting them before playing
[05:07] <shane_> i had a vic 20 pc when i was around 7
[05:08] <shane_> i thought it was so cool if i programed for 3 hrs i could make a sentence scroll the whole screen
[05:09] <xbj9000> lol
[05:09] <xbj9000> I was too poor to have computers in those days
[05:09] <xbj9000> what's funny is I bet this toshiba was $10,000 in 1990
[05:09] <shane_> yah my dad was a drunk so he felt bad after a 2 week binge,either that or one of his friends aquired it
[05:10] <xbj9000> ok here's how to add the theme
[05:10] <shane_> thats 25 years ago
[05:10] <shane_> k
[05:10] <xbj9000> copy it to /home/username/.frostwire/themes
[05:10] <xbj9000> then find it in the menu in frostwire and choose it
[05:10] <xbj9000> them restart frostwire
[05:11] <shane_> ok thats odd in home shane i have no frostwire file
[05:11] <xbj9000> select view hidden files
[05:11] <xbj9000> it's .frostwire
[05:11] <PsynoKhi0> ctrl + H
[05:12] <xbj9000> right
[05:12] <shane_> k gotcha
[05:12] <PsynoKhi0> left
[05:12] <PsynoKhi0> up up down down A B
[05:13] <PsynoKhi0> hey shoot looks like my USB doesn't crash
[05:13] <xbj9000> ?
[05:13] <PsynoKhi0> I've had a long lasting issue with tis computer I'm on right now
[05:14] <PsynoKhi0> the onboard USB would crash after a while
[05:14] <xbj9000> shane_ to leave it running in taskbar, go to Tools > system tray > shutdown after transfers
[05:14] <shane_> ok it says that the skin is out of date
[05:14] <xbj9000> ?  won't let you use it?
[05:15] <shane_> its says to get a more current one and then it doesnt find my web browser
[05:15] <shane_> how do i set up my browser as default
[05:15] <xbj9000> well there isn't a more current one
[05:16] <xbj9000> tools > helper apps
[05:16] <shane_> i dunno i said later and then restarted and it hasnt changed
[05:17] <xbj9000> bah
[05:18] <shane_> its listed but it wont take affect and my default browser is mozilla
[05:19] <PsynoKhi0> nopers, crashed again...
[05:19] <xbj9000> yeah edit the default browser to whatever you actually use
[05:19] <xbj9000> probably firefox
[05:20] <xbj9000> I don't get it, I can't use the theme either now
[05:21] <shane_> i dunno i changed my browser and it opened a page here so ill check it out i dont think the tango theme will be there if you built it
[05:21] <xbj9000> yeah it won't
[05:22] <shane_> i wonder if you desighned that on there last version and the new changes wont accept it
[05:24] <xbj9000> no, the other themes still say THEME_VERSION=2
[05:27] <shane_> hmm i dont know then
[05:27] <xbj9000> makes no sense
[05:27] <xbj9000> :(
[05:27] <xbj9000> themes are pretty simple really
[05:28] <shane_> i havent gotten into that end of linux atall yet im just getting to know it
[05:28] <PsynoKhi0> uh trying to unmount a USB key but I get "An application is using blablabla..." is there a command to check which one it is?
[05:29] <xbj9000> that's making me angry I spent hours on it
[05:29] <shane_> but i have tryed 7 different versions of linux in the last few weeks
[05:29] <xbj9000> which ones?
[05:30] <shane_> all 3 buntus arch freespire gos and linspire
[05:30] <xbj9000> haven't tried arch
[05:30] <xbj9000> didn't like *spire
[05:30] <shane_> i liked kubu and xfce xubuntu
[05:30] <shane_> it was nice for visual but i didnt like its weight
[05:30] <xbj9000> I used to love kde but I stopped
[05:31] <xbj9000> I think kde used to be better than gnome but no longer is
[05:31] <shane_> well i think i might throw kde4 on one of my systems i have down stairs but i think ill wait a few more weeks
[05:31] <shane_> i dunno about that
[05:31] <shane_> iv been useing mostly kde in xubu
[05:32] <shane_> gnome is preety but heavy
[05:32] <xbj9000> why not just use kubuntu then?
[05:32] <PsynoKhi0> yeeouch... *buntu and arch? that's like, the almost opposite sides of the spectrum hehe
[05:32] <shane_> lol yah a bit
[05:33] <shane_> i like xubuntu better but there arent many apps for the xfce
[05:33] <shane_> most are for gnome and kde
[05:34] <PsynoKhi0> I haven't had any issue mixing yet
[05:34] <shane_> no me either
[05:34] <shane_> i found that the system does seem a tad faster opening kde than gnome apps though
[05:34] <PsynoKhi0> to the point I wonder wtf they mean with gnome and kde apps heh
[05:36] <shane_> what is the dif
[05:37] <xbj9000> wtf, i figured out the problem
[05:37] <shane_> cool what was it
[05:37] <xbj9000> well for some reason the Tango_theme folder is created 2 deep
[05:38] <xbj9000> there is a Tango_theme folder inside of a Tango_theme folder
[05:38] <xbj9000> :/
[05:38] <shane_> ok
[05:38] <shane_> so i need to remove that and open it up
[05:38] <xbj9000> so, if you remove Tango_theme and then copy the one inside back over, it works
[05:39] <xbj9000> so that it's only one folder deep
[05:39] <xbj9000> I'll have to fix that
[05:40] <shane_> ok
[05:41] <xbj9000> did you get it?
[05:42] <PsynoKhi0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20530/ fun huh?
[05:42] <shane_> not yet
[05:43] <shane_> how do i take away the folder and keep the files
[05:44] <PsynoKhi0> about those h.264 files, you can check with any decently recent AVI from dattebayo.com
[05:44] <xbj9000> you can move the Tango_theme out onto the desktop
[05:45] <xbj9000> then open it, and copy the Tango_theme inside, and paste that back into /frostwire/themes
[05:45] <xbj9000> or you can wait for me to upload the fix
[05:47] <shane_> i got it all i had to do was remove the folder completly
[05:47] <xbj9000> theme is working?
[05:48] <shane_> yah its fine now
[05:48] <shane_> looks good
[05:48] <xbj9000> good
[05:48] <xbj9000> thanks
[05:49] <shane_> PsynoKhi0: whats with the paste ur usb crash
[05:50] <PsynoKhi0> yup
[05:50] <shane_> well i like how it reads thats simple to figure out
[05:51] <shane_> well i best get some sleep
[05:51] <xbj9000> night
[05:51] <shane_> ty you for you help xbj9000 and i apreciate the theme pack it looks great
[05:51] <xbj9000> no problem
[05:51] <shane_> goodnight all
[05:51] <PsynoKhi0> nite
[05:51] <PsynoKhi0> meh
[05:53] <xbj9000> bah
[05:53] <xbj9000> I forgot my ftp password
[05:53] <xbj9000> it's in my email on a different PC
[05:59] <xbj9000> theme is fixed
[06:04] <xbj9000> I still can't write to floppies
[06:06] <xbj9000> even as root
[07:36] <thedeificone> ﻿i am running Hardy and have a Intel 945GM Chipset video card, and i am using the new INTEL driver.... i am only getting about 800 FPS and i used 2 get about 1800 on glxgears on another distro... cant even play UT2004... claims direct rendering is working... is this a known problem or ? .....
[09:19] <dmseg> anyone need help??
[09:20] <dmseg> !volunteer
[09:20] <dmseg> !ettiqutte
[09:20] <dmseg> !ubottu
[11:18] <persi> hello, what do you think are the specs with which xubuntu speed advantage will be unnoticeable and I should install base gnome version instead?
[11:19] <ablomen> persi, even on my quad core system at home with 2gb of ram i find xfce a lot faster then gnome
[11:20] <ablomen> just more responsive (thunar opens a lot faster then nautilus, even rythmbox seems to start up faster)
[11:22] <persi> oops :) thanks, I wonder how it was before 4.3, some guy says XFCE became much slower after it
[11:23] <persi> startup time actually didnt impress me as it wasnt at all faster than XP
[11:25] <ablomen> well but the thing is that windows xp is actually still booting once your logged in
[11:25] <ablomen> when you log in in linux everything is booted
[11:26] <persi> everything besides gui that is, I think it takes just as long to actually show me desktop
[11:26] <ablomen> hmm it does?
[11:27] <ablomen> dunno, at home xubuntu seems faster, and havnt used windows on this pc :)
[12:14] <persi> how much extra disk space do I need approximately if i want to install ubuntu over xubuntu?
[13:34] <jbotscharow> hi all
[13:36] <jbotscharow> I have not received any messages from the xubuntu-users ml for several days. has it been that silent or do i have email issues?
[13:59] <jbotscharow> cody-somerville: r u here?
[13:59] <gloria> how do I get the xubuntu menu showing icons again?
[13:59] <gloria> I'm using 8.04
[14:01] <jbotscharow> gloria: I'm new to Xubuntu, so I am not real sure, but I think I recall seeing an option in he menu editor prefs
[14:01] <gloria> where?
[14:02] <gloria> I don't see any preferences option
[14:02] <gloria> Xfce4-MenuEditor right?
[14:02] <jbotscharow> give me a minute to look and see if i can find exactly where it is
[14:02] <gloria> omg I found it
[14:02] <gloria> its the option for the button
[14:02] <gloria> thanks
[14:03] <gloria> drove me nuts for longest time
[14:03] <gloria> now to figure out how to get rid of those crap gnome games from menu
[15:57] <cheeseboy> i have usb evga tv tuner
[15:58] <cheeseboy> any way i can get it to work?
[16:08] <cheeseboy> ﻿hi i have evega in D tube
[16:08] <cheeseboy> ﻿any way i can get it to work on ubuntu?
[17:16] <jokoon> hello, I have bluetooth integrated on my G4 ibook, switched recently from gnome to xfce, and "browse device" is greyed in the tray menu
[17:16] <jokoon> also how can I deactivate the touchpad in xubuntu ?
[17:19] <lordmaynoth> hey
[17:19] <lordmaynoth> I've got a weird question
[17:20] <jokoon> thats weird
[17:21] <lordmaynoth> ok so when I play games in native resolution (using 8600gts, tried envy drivers) the game keeps playing but its in a window, and I can still see the start bar, but the mouse is frozen even if I alt-tab out
[17:21] <lordmaynoth> anyone else had anything like this happen in hardy
[17:21] <vinnl> lordmaynoth, for which games does that happen?
[17:21] <lordmaynoth> tremulous and saurbraten
[17:21] <lordmaynoth> any fps
[17:22] <lordmaynoth> also if I change the resolution down to 1024 x 768 or less its fine
[17:22] <vinnl> lordmaynoth, is there a place in their settings where you can configure them to be fullscreen?
[17:22] <vinnl> Oh that's odd
[17:22] <lordmaynoth> yeah its making me scratch my head
[17:22] <lordmaynoth> didn't happen in gutsy
[19:06] <Balachmar> Hi, how can I change the screen resolution in xubuntu?
[19:07] <lc2> applications -> settings -> settings manager, display
[19:09] <zoredache> how does one change what browser the update-manager uses?  I have epiphany set in the settings/prefered apps... but update-manager is starting firefox
[19:09] <lc2> the update manager runs as root, right
[19:10] <zoredache> parts of it do... but I had not provided my password yet
[19:11] <lc2> oh
[19:11] <lc2> meh, wtf
[19:11] <lc2> maybe it's hard-coded
[19:12] <zoredache> the issue is... I have firefox2 install since several extensions not supported in ff3...  Every time I forget and click a link in the update manager ff3 runs and trashes my firefox profile and deletes all my extensions
[19:12] <lc2> oh :(
[19:12] <eca> 17 gigs used on my 80 gig hd, less than 1 gig in my home folder and i dont have that many programs installed. i tried apt-get autoclean, and deleting cached packages with synaptic- i dont think it worked though. what else should i look into?
[19:13] <lc2> look in /tmp
[19:14] <lc2> is this xubuntu?
[19:14] <eca> yes, 5kb in tmp
[19:14] <eca> dev is 1.8 gb
[19:14] <lc2> !
[19:15] <lc2> okay, that's not right
[19:15] <lc2> dev is (should be) a bunch of special files that don't really exist as such
[19:15] <lc2> mine is 52k
[19:16] <lc2> /dev*
[19:17] <lc2> although, udev afaik isn't really a filesystem as such, either
[19:17] <lc2> so maybe that's irrelevant
[19:17] <eca> lin is 1.1 gb
[19:18] <eca> */lib
[19:18] <lc2> lin?
[19:18] <lc2> oh
[19:18] <lc2> makes sense
[19:18] <eca> proc 1.3 gb
[19:19] <eca> sys 230mb
[19:19] <lc2> proc is a pseudo-filesystem
[19:20] <eca> usr is 1.6, var is 300mb. files dont even add up to 17, but thats what it says in thunar
[19:21] <lc2> unless thunar is counting it wrong
[19:22] <lc2> hm
[19:22] <eca> and partition editor
[19:22] <lc2> heh what
[19:23] <eca> partion editor says 17 gb too
[19:23] <eca> used
[19:23] <zoredache> what is the xfce equivalent of gnome-open?
[19:23] <lc2> hmmm
[19:24] <zoredache> eca: try running this perhaps -   du --max-depth=1 -h /
[19:25] <eca> 2.7g
[19:26] <eca> geuss thats what its supposed to say
[19:26] <zoredache> eca: btw have you deleted some large files (perhaps logfiles) without restarting the service that was using them?
[19:26] <eca> probably
[19:27] <eca> i killed a bunch of services
[19:27] <eca> ith sys-conf
[19:27] <eca> with
[19:27] <zoredache> if a program has a file open, and you delete the file the blocks will still be allocated until the file handle is closed...  You might try rebooting
[19:28] <eca> ive rebooted a bunch
[19:29] <eca> gotta go to work bbl
[19:34] <zoredache> hrm.... update-manager seems to be using gnome-open instead of exo-open
[19:38] <Balachmar> ok, I seem to have f***ed up my resolution, and now I cand read the text anymore
[19:38] <Balachmar> Can I select a resolution from the commandline?
[19:40] <Balachmar> ok, now the resolution is fine, but the menu is still so small that I cannot read it...
[21:28] <wiseman> I'm back
[21:28] <wiseman> shoop woop
[21:28] <wiseman> Hey, having more issues here, anyone care to lend some experience?
[22:28] <cppmonkey> Im running 8.04, Im just using it as a glorified router with PXE, I only have 2GB to play with as its a flash card. What apps can I remove without breaking the gui/
[22:29] <cppmonkey> Brains2