| genii | stdin: OK, asks for my keyphrase, but then chunks out wanting me to force it to use existing dir or such | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| * genii sips his coffee | 00:00 | |
| genii | OK, so after doing that, the page reflects I've done something but it still appears empty, saying use bzr push lp:~mystic-scientist/+junk/pdfedit-0.4.1 but that results in a weird error on this end | 00:03 |
| genii | eg: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Emystic-scientist/%2Bjunk/pdfedit-0.4.1/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() | 00:03 |
| stdin | yeah, lp: seems broken for pushing | 00:04 |
| stdin | it'll take a couple mins for the commit to show and the code to appear | 00:04 |
| genii | OK | 00:04 |
| genii | Guess I'll drink more coffee and wait for propogation | 00:04 |
| genii | stdin: Thanks for the help | 00:04 |
| stdin | you'll get used to LP one day, scary eh? ;) | 00:05 |
| genii | Yes :) | 00:05 |
| genii | This all began with wanting a more recent pdfedit than 3.something :) | 00:06 |
| genii | stdin: I must have forgot signing up there sometime in 2005 | 00:09 |
| * stdin can't remember when he signed up for LP | 00:12 | |
| stdin | probably in '06 though | 00:12 |
| genii | Do I have to commit or so? | 00:17 |
| genii | eg: Last modified: 16 minutes ago ... Last Commit: This branch is empty | 00:18 |
| stdin | push should have do that, maybe it just takes longer for the initial commit | 00:19 |
| genii | How long is normal before you should see a change? | 00:23 |
| genii | stdin: I just noticed when I made it I put branch type as Hosted. Should it have been Mirrored instead? | 00:25 |
| stdin | no, hosted is right | 00:26 |
| genii | Thats what I thought. | 00:26 |
| stdin | genii: did you bzr commit before pushing? | 00:27 |
| genii | stdin: Yes had to do --unchanged to force it | 00:28 |
| genii | Maybe I'll make some minor change and re-commit | 00:29 |
| stdin | worth a go | 00:30 |
| genii | stdin: OK looks like somethings finally chugging | 00:37 |
| genii | Success :) | 00:42 |
| stdin | got there in the end :) | 00:43 |
| genii | stdin: What I'm wondering about is if I wanted to distribute some deb package, should I just host some falcon repo? | 00:44 |
| stdin | you could just use the PPA | 00:45 |
| genii | stdin: I haven't been able to get anywhere with it :( | 00:45 |
| genii | Maybe I'm just obtuse | 00:45 |
| stdin | did you ask in #launchpad about it? | 00:47 |
| stdin | or look at https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart | 00:47 |
| nixternal | woo | 00:48 |
| nixternal | anyone going to work on the 4.0.82 packages for Hardy? | 00:48 |
| genii | Ah didn't even think they had a channel | 00:48 |
| vorian | evening :) | 01:05 |
| supert0nes[A] | too bad the neon ones can't be converted they are nice!! | 01:44 |
| === supert0nes[A] is now known as supert0nes | ||
| jjesse_ | so what would happen if i cahnged my sources.ist to intrepid and distu-upgraded | 02:48 |
| jjesse_ | besieds learned to type | 02:48 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:49 |
| jjesse | ;0 | 02:50 |
| Jucato | good evening jjesse | 02:50 |
| jjesse | here goes nothing | 02:51 |
| jjesse | good morning Jucato | 02:51 |
| jjesse | halfway through my update to ibex :) | 03:14 |
| jjesse | can't wait to see how this vm responds | 03:14 |
| dasKreech | Hi Hobbsee | 05:15 |
| dasKreech | Saluit seele | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | hey dasKreech! | 05:28 |
| dasKreech | How are you? | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | doing OK | 05:35 |
| * Hobbsee has had the fun of composing a mail to the CC> | 05:35 | |
| dasKreech | I normally compose to the BCC | 05:42 |
| * Jucato waves to Hobbsee and dasKreech | 06:27 | |
| * Jucato also KicKs dasKreech | 06:27 | |
| dasKreech | Ow! | 06:29 |
| dasKreech | What? | 06:29 |
| dasKreech | Fine I'll play MMORPGS With you | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato! | 06:29 |
| Jucato | hehehe | 06:29 |
| Jucato | suddenly I feel that my 1280x1024 monitor is not enough to fit all the plasmoids I want to have :) | 06:30 |
| dasKreech | Zoom out. Add a new one :0 | 06:31 |
| Jucato | that almost *never* works for me | 06:31 |
| dasKreech | strange works a lot for me | 06:31 |
| Jucato | adding new activities? | 06:31 |
| dasKreech | Kopete and Konqueror however haeva 10% chance of hosing the entire machine | 06:31 |
| dasKreech | Yeah | 06:31 |
| dasKreech | works almost all the time for me | 06:32 |
| dasKreech | I think it crashed the first time | 06:32 |
| Jucato | dunno. whenever I try to do that my graphics slows like hell... like the mouse is being weighed down by Hobbsee or something | 06:32 |
| dasKreech | ooooooh | 06:33 |
| dasKreech | that's slow | 06:33 |
| dasKreech | what driver? | 06:33 |
| Jucato | well.. considering it's an nvidia legacy driver, I shouldn't be surprised :) | 06:34 |
| Jucato | (but that doesn't really contradict what I said about it not working for me :P) | 06:34 |
| dasKreech | what card? | 06:34 |
| * Hobbsee pinches the mouse. | 06:34 | |
| Jucato | nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 | 06:35 |
| dasKreech | Oh a Geforce2 | 06:35 |
| Jucato | 4!! not 2. 4! | 06:35 |
| dasKreech | a geforce4 mx is a geforce2 card | 06:36 |
| Jucato | ah | 06:36 |
| Jucato | ok. if you say so :P | 06:36 |
| Jucato | whatever it is. it sucks :) | 06:36 |
| dasKreech | pretty high end Geforce 2 but still not quite as good a low end Geforce3 | 06:36 |
| Jucato | this is the first (and hopefully the only) situation that nvidia has let me down | 06:36 |
| dasKreech | :-) | 06:37 |
| Jucato | situation = Qt/KDE 4 | 06:37 |
| dasKreech | well a new card shouldn't hurt too much | 06:37 |
| dasKreech | (newer) | 06:37 |
| Jucato | actually it will | 06:37 |
| Jucato | you know why? | 06:37 |
| dasKreech | a geforce4 non Mx should be dirt cheap if you can find it | 06:37 |
| dasKreech | like .. free | 06:37 |
| Jucato | well, only if it's AGP. | 06:38 |
| Jucato | PCI-E is out of the question | 06:38 |
| dasKreech | Well yeah I don't know if there were Geforce4 PCI-e cards | 06:38 |
| Jucato | don't you mean AGP cards? PCI-E's the current "standard" while AGP's almost obsolete | 06:39 |
| dasKreech | Yeah and geforce was state of the art like 5 years ago | 06:39 |
| dasKreech | they are obsolete now | 06:39 |
| Jucato | right. so buying a video card that would work better with Qt/KDE 4 argb stuff requires me to buy a new mobo | 06:40 |
| Jucato | which I will lead to buying a new processor as well (dual core maaaybe) | 06:40 |
| Jucato | all in due time | 06:40 |
| dasKreech | Jucato: a geforce4 should be damn near free if you can find one and a double jump above what you have now | 06:41 |
| Jucato | *if* I can find one | 06:42 |
| Jucato | throw me a model name and I'll try to remember if I've seen something similar to it | 06:42 |
| dasKreech | Geforce 4 ti 4600 | 06:50 |
| Arby | morning | 08:03 |
| clau30 | how can I see what changes have been made to a package from feisty to gutsy? | 08:08 |
| Jucato | debian/changelog? | 08:09 |
| Arby | clau30: it will be in the changelog, which package? | 08:09 |
| \sh | apachelogger: I fixed yesterday the kdebindings 4.0.80 for amd64 | 08:09 |
| \sh | (and the change works for i386 as well) | 08:09 |
| clau30 | Arby: mount | 08:09 |
| clau30 | thanks | 08:10 |
| Arby | clau30: search for the package on launchpad | 08:11 |
| clau30 | Arby: found it on packages.ubuntu.com | 08:12 |
| Arby | clau30: it's part of util-linux so it's here on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux | 08:12 |
| dasKreech | Jucato: which MMO? | 08:13 |
| clau30 | Arby: ah ok, thanks | 08:14 |
| Jucato | dasKreech: it's called Cabal Online. another Korean-made MMORPG | 08:14 |
| clau30 | Arby: it's the problem that my usb stick doesn't get mounted on gutsy anymore, but works fine in feisty.. | 08:16 |
| clau30 | thought to look at the changelog (although not sure the problem is mount) | 08:17 |
| dasKreech | Jucato: I think I have wallpapers from that | 08:17 |
| Jucato | I have one on my desktop :) | 08:18 |
| Jucato | dasKreech: http://jucato.org/stuff/jucato-kde4.1-1.png | 08:18 |
| dasKreech | :-) | 08:18 |
| dasKreech | Jucato: What's in the lower left? | 08:19 |
| Jucato | Show Dashboard widget | 08:19 |
| clau30 | Arby: ugh, sorry, I ment it works on hardy and doesn't on gutsy :) | 08:21 |
| clau30 | Arby: ugh, sorry, I ment it works on gutsy and doesn't on hardy - this is the right one! | 08:22 |
| * dasKreech sighs at Konversation :( | 08:28 | |
| Arby | clau30: sorry I know nothing about how mount actually works. | 08:30 |
| Arby | check for related bugs and if there isn't one similar to your situation file one | 08:31 |
| clau30 | there is one, yes | 08:31 |
| clau30 | thanks anyway ;) | 08:31 |
| === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying | ||
| dwidmann | Jucato: sure, you were talking about it hours and hours earlier, but if I were you I would spring for a geforce 6 or 7, if you dig you can still find them easily enough, and they're pretty darned cheap too. | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | \sh: yeah, I noticed, pretty cool | 09:37 |
| * apachelogger hands \sh a cookie | 09:37 | |
| \sh | apachelogger: and it works...thanks to you :) | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | :) | 09:44 |
| apachelogger | \sh: Import Error: No module named klineedit | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | for leonov | 10:24 |
| \sh | apachelogger: then kde4.py is not in uic/widget_plugins/ in pykde4 | 10:28 |
| \sh | make clean and redo make | 10:28 |
| apachelogger | doesn't help | 10:28 |
| * apachelogger checks for kde4.py | 10:28 | |
| \sh | 4.0.80 ppa4? | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:29 |
| \sh | it works here and for others :) | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | that is the question really | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | no | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | haha | 10:29 |
| * apachelogger is not using the ppa | 10:29 | |
| \sh | lol | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | it probably makes sense, since I need a fallback version in case kde-nightly breaks | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | oh, btw | 10:30 |
| apachelogger | kde-nightly goes public today or tomorrow | 10:30 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | yo Nightrose | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | yo nixternal as well | 11:05 |
| * apachelogger hands everyone a cookie | 11:05 | |
| apachelogger | yay! kde-nightly-qt built :D | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | \sh: omg, I haz menus :D | 11:09 |
| \sh | apachelogger: yes...but now qt-designer4 is bugging with oxy | 11:09 |
| \sh | apachelogger: but first after the pykde4 update ;) | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | lol | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | I get a segmentation fault | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | :D | 11:10 |
| * jpds hugs apachelogger | 11:24 | |
| * nixternal is working on going totally green | 11:51 | |
| nixternal | no more car! I shall bike everywhere I want to go, even Antarctica :) | 11:52 |
| Riddell | yay! | 11:52 |
| nixternal | I will ride my bike to your house Riddell :) | 11:53 |
| Riddell | just don't tell Betty downstairs, she's getting annoyed at the number of bikes in the stairwell :) | 11:54 |
| nixternal | round trip bike ride to work == ~60 miles or about 100km | 11:54 |
| Riddell | hardcore | 11:54 |
| nixternal | ya, my arse and legs said the same thing :) | 11:54 |
| nixternal | I am >.< that close to getting the companie's exchange calendar working in Kontact | 11:55 |
| nixternal | then I can ditch Evolution, which I have to admit, is fairly decent, even in KDE when you work past the font woes | 11:56 |
| nixternal | company's exchange calendar that is | 11:56 |
| nixternal | and I can't wait for the day to ditch Yum repositories, as they have to be the biggest mess I have ever seen in my life | 11:56 |
| nixternal | who here was working on FAI with Ubuntu/Debian? I remember someone here working on it | 12:05 |
| nixternal | this is exactly what I need to move forward on a CentOS to an Ubuntu based appliance | 12:06 |
| Riddell | ScottK? | 12:06 |
| nixternal | I thought \sh honestly | 12:06 |
| Riddell | mibby | 12:09 |
| smarter | FAI? | 12:10 |
| nixternal | Fully Automatic Installation | 12:12 |
| nixternal | our appliance servers right now use a CentOS (v5) customized distro that is fully automated so our machines can automatically boot up and iso image and start loading w/o us having to do a thing | 12:13 |
| nixternal | right now I am trying to get kickstart to pass the -m 0 flag to mkfs.ext3, but I am doing it rather hackishly | 12:14 |
| nixternal | would be nice if anaconda could pass this | 12:14 |
| \sh | nixternal: i did yes :) | 12:20 |
| nixternal | so my brain still works :) | 12:20 |
| nixternal | fairly easy to setup? I would rather go that way than preseeding with answer files probably | 12:21 |
| \sh | nixternal: well, if you know the system behind FAI it's fairly easy...you need the right infrastructure for it...which could be a problem | 12:23 |
| \sh | nixternal: also FAI in Ubuntu has problems with unionfs, which is broken in ubuntu kernel | 12:23 |
| nixternal | we are using ext3, so that wouldn't be an issue for us | 12:24 |
| nixternal | I will start playing around with it and get an infrastructure in place for it | 12:25 |
| nixternal | for v2 of our software, I would love to move away from RPMs | 12:25 |
| nixternal | time for work, ttyl | 12:45 |
| * apachelogger hugs jpds back | 12:46 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes? | 12:50 |
| ScottK | nixternal: FAI features in that spec I pointed you at. | 12:51 |
| Riddell | ScottK: nixternal's question not mine | 12:51 |
| Riddell | although, since you have supplied an answer, I could say the question was "fancy making me some lunch?" | 12:52 |
| ScottK | Right. Got that once I read the scrollback. | 12:52 |
| ScottK | Sure hold on while I send it. | 12:52 |
| etretyak | Hi everyone! | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | hey etretyak | 12:58 |
| etretyak | Riddell: Should I follow kubuntu_printer_configuration.pdf for app design and usability? Or just mimic gnome version of system config printer? | 12:59 |
| Riddell | etretyak: until now I've been mostly following the gnome one since that's easiest to get it working, then will move to kubuntu_printer_configuration.pdf when it mostly all works | 13:02 |
| Riddell | etretyak: but there's no menu bar in anticipation of kubuntu_printer_configuration.pdf | 13:02 |
| seele | hum.. if artemis_fowl pops in, i'm around today | 13:03 |
| seele | missed his ping yesterday.. | 13:03 |
| etretyak | Riddell: the menu bar exists in gnome version of system-config-printer.. | 13:05 |
| Riddell | etretyak: right, but not in our one (since our one should one day be a kcontrol module) | 13:07 |
| etretyak | Riddell: i see | 13:07 |
| Riddell | Mez, ScottK: what to do with bug 214030? | 13:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 214030 in gutsy-backports "Please Backport php5-xdebug" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214030 | 13:19 |
| Riddell | Artemis_Fowl meet seele | 13:19 |
| * ScottK looks | 13:19 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: Please unsubscribe ubuntu-archive and I'll follow-up on it. | 13:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok, done | 13:20 |
| Mez | ScottK, why hold off? | 13:20 |
| ScottK | Mez: To get confirmation that the current version is good. | 13:21 |
| Mez | ScottK, I can confirm that - I'm the debian Maintainer | 13:22 |
| ScottK | Mez: Please mark in the bug what version and that it builds/runs/installs and then ping me. | 13:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | Riddell: ? | 13:22 |
| Mez | ScottK, added | 13:24 |
| * ScottK looks | 13:25 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: As Mez says, bug 214030 is good to go now. | 13:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 214030 in gutsy-backports "Please Backport php5-xdebug" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214030 | 13:29 |
| eagles051387 | Nightrose afternoon question about those talks | 13:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: re Bug 231098 - Please see persia's comment. I'm no Java expert, but I think more work is needed before SRU. | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 231098 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "Please add sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin to *ubuntu-restricted-extras" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231098 | 13:41 |
| Riddell | ScottK: mvo replied | 13:57 |
| * ScottK looks. | 13:57 | |
| Riddell | Mez: php-xdebug isn't in intrepid | 14:04 |
| Mez | source package xdebug | 14:04 |
| smarter | Are we going to package kdeplasmoids? | 14:06 |
| Riddell | when beta 2 gets tagged | 14:07 |
| Riddell | which ought to be today | 14:07 |
| Mez | Riddell, see bug #234960 | 14:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 234960 in php-xdebug "Please sync xdebug from debian" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234960 | 14:07 |
| smarter | cool | 14:07 |
| smarter | Is someone already working on it? | 14:07 |
| Riddell | smarter: no, waiting for the tagging | 14:07 |
| smarter | You're going to do it? | 14:08 |
| Riddell | smarter: I expect it'll just be using the packaging from debian | 14:09 |
| smarter | okay | 14:10 |
| Riddell | smarter: looking for things to package? | 14:10 |
| smarter | yep ;) | 14:10 |
| smarter | I wonder if K3B is going to be released soon | 14:10 |
| smarter | looks like it's already usable | 14:11 |
| Riddell | smarter: guidance-power-manager needs packaging if you can do python | 14:11 |
| smarter | sure | 14:11 |
| eagles051387 | Riddell wouldnt launchpad be a good place to look for stuff that needs packaging | 14:11 |
| smarter | where is it? | 14:11 |
| Riddell | smarter: kdesvn for now | 14:12 |
| Riddell | smarter: extragear/utils/ | 14:12 |
| smarter | ok | 14:12 |
| * smarter svn co | 14:12 | |
| Riddell | this would be good to have packaged too http://code.google.com/p/arora/ | 14:12 |
| Riddell | eagles051387: if people have made bugs yes | 14:12 |
| smarter | Riddell: there's already a package on the site which looks pretty okay | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: arora is going to debian soonish IIRC | 14:13 |
| smarter | it's on REVU | 14:13 |
| Nightrose | re | 14:13 |
| Nightrose | eagles051387: what question | 14:13 |
| Riddell | ah, cool | 14:13 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Hi. | 14:13 |
| Riddell | hi mornfall | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | in fact | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | it already is in debian | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | http://packages.debian.org/sid/arora | 14:14 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Do you think it would be hard to add a trigger to icecc that would restart iceccd when new gcc appears? | 14:14 |
| mornfall | I just have been bitten by upgrading gcc without iceccd restart : - \. | 14:14 |
| Riddell | mornfall: hmm, I don't know much about triggers | 14:14 |
| mornfall | Neither do I -- but I could try to check and come up with something : - ). | 14:15 |
| mornfall | So I'll poke you when I figure something. | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | well, gcc package could just restart iceccd if it is installed | 14:15 |
| smarter | Riddell: can I use debhelper 7 goodness for g-p-m or do you plan to backport it? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | smarter: I don't plan to backport | 14:16 |
| Riddell | smarter: what's good in debconf 7? | 14:16 |
| mornfall | Isn't there a dh cdbs-alike in there? | 14:16 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that sounds improper | 14:16 |
| smarter | yep | 14:16 |
| mornfall | smarter: Is it better than cdbs? | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, easier than making iceccd detect a chaned gcc and restart once no job is going on ;-) | 14:17 |
| smarter | It doesn't have all the rules files (/usr/share/cdbs/*) but it's supposed to replace cdbs one day | 14:18 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| eagles051387 | Nightrose are those talks goign to be a nightly thing | 14:20 |
| Nightrose | eagles051387: huh? | 14:20 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Ah, nevermind. The triggers in rpm are something entirely different than dpkg (what I have thought they would be). | 14:21 |
| mornfall | Riddell: (Or maybe they aren't... let me dig more.) | 14:21 |
| mornfall | man 5 deb-triggers | 14:23 |
| eagles051387 | Nightrose those talks that took place the other night are they going to become a daily thing | 14:24 |
| Nightrose | eagles051387: no | 14:24 |
| eagles051387 | ok | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | smarter: why would you use dh7 even though we have fullblown cdbs files for kde4? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: I think you disappointed him | 14:26 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: think so too - want me to do daily talks now? :P | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: yes | 14:27 |
| Nightrose | hmmmmm | 14:27 |
| Nightrose | NO! | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | you could setup a bot | 14:27 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | give the same talk over and over again | 14:27 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 14:27 |
| Nightrose | insanity to the rescue | 14:27 |
| smarter | apachelogger: yep, cdbs is a better choice atm | 14:27 |
| mornfall | ... | 14:28 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 211756 seems to be an outstanding backport | 14:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 211756 in gutsy-backports "Please backport emesene 1.0-dist-1 from hardy" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211756 | 14:32 |
| * ScottK looks | 14:33 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: No one has ack'ed Feisty, so I'd suggest unsubscribe ubuntu-archive for now. | 14:34 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok | 14:34 |
| jjesse | so what wierd and crazy things can i expect on my virtual machine on a dist-=upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 remix to intrepid? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | mm, it may well explode | 14:38 |
| Riddell | although not as much as after I remove the -kde4 packages | 14:38 |
| jjesse | will looking for it to explode then ;) | 14:42 |
| danimo | hi | 14:42 |
| Riddell | hi danimo | 14:42 |
| seele | hmm.. anyone want to give some feedback on kgrubeditor and how we're handling automagic? | 14:45 |
| seele | http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1437949_gluha/kgrubeditor.ogv | 14:45 |
| seele | i dont think it is quite right yet, i'd prefer a better solution than a bunch of warning messages | 14:45 |
| jjesse | Riddell: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_1.5.22_all.deb (--unpack) on my dist-upgrade | 14:46 |
| jjesse | from hardy remix to intrepid | 14:47 |
| smarter | Riddell: are we going to remove kde-guidance-powermanager from intrepid? | 14:50 |
| Riddell | smarter: yes | 14:52 |
| nixternal | oi what a morning commute | 14:54 |
| yuriy | morning | 14:56 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 14:56 |
| yuriy | nixternal: bug 215012 still present in hardy 4.1beta packages? | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 215012 in kdebindings-kde4 "unable to install kdebindings-kde4" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215012 | 14:56 |
| nixternal | dunno, I think somebody did the kdebindings packages for beta..I didn't | 14:57 |
| yuriy | oh | 14:57 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Do you want patch, or should I reportbug it against Debian and it'll get to you that way? | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: it's kde4bindings now | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: anything I can do to help with the name changes? | 15:09 |
| * apachelogger is getting confused :S | 15:09 | |
| smarter | Riddell: guidance-power-manager package almost done | 15:11 |
| smarter | but it breaks things that depends on guidance-backends | 15:11 |
| smarter | Riddell: they both provide a xf86misc.py file and pysupport doesn't like that | 15:14 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486668 | 15:30 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 486668 in icecc "iceccd needs to be restarted upon gcc/g++ upgrades" [Normal,Open] | 15:30 |
| mornfall | (eeeevil bug, it's got 666 in there...) | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | lol | 15:31 |
| nixternal | ahhhh, dude that was my iceccd issue the other day I bet | 15:34 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: in hardy ppa too? | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: yes | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | actually I fixed it in a branch | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | but forgot to merge it in before I uploaded to the ppa | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | so it's broken ... again | 15:39 |
| Riddell | smarter: just assume that guidance-backends is disappearing | 16:19 |
| smarter | okay | 16:19 |
| smarter | so I'll Conflicts/Replaces/provides on kde-guidance , guidance-backends and guidance-powermanager | 16:19 |
| Riddell | smarter: yep | 16:20 |
| JontheEchidna | w00t, Wine 1.0! | 16:37 |
| Riddell | quick, set a world record for downloads! | 16:44 |
| * apachelogger adds mozilla.com to his school's firewall blacklist :P | 16:47 | |
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| Artemis_Fowl | so seele, | 17:46 |
| Artemis_Fowl | how should the Automagic thing be handled? | 17:47 |
| Riddell | that video looks good Artemis_Fowl | 17:49 |
| Artemis_Fowl | Riddell: nice to hear that. but it shows only the entry-related functionality. there are still lots to be done... | 17:50 |
| Riddell | mornfall: "Riddell: Do you want patch" what was that about? | 17:53 |
| * |Artemis_Fowl| hates his ISP | 17:55 | |
| \sh | nixternal: if you need help regarding fai: #fai@irc.debian.org | 17:56 |
| mornfall | Riddell: icecc | 17:57 |
| Riddell | mornfall: looks like we just get it from debian so fine to do it through that route | 17:58 |
| ScottK | \sh and nixternal: siretart knows a bit about it too. | 18:01 |
| nixternal | right now I am hacking initrd.img, minstg2.img, and stage2.img files and my head wants to explode | 18:02 |
| \sh | ScottK: right :) | 18:02 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | Riddell: wasn't seele supposed to be around today? | 18:30 |
| Riddell | _Artemis_Fowl_: she did say she was | 18:31 |
| seele | _Artemis_Fowl_: i'm here! | 18:33 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | seele: good. I was about to leave :) | 18:34 |
| seele | _Artemis_Fowl_: i reviewed your screen cast.. automagic sucks | 18:34 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | +1 from me :) | 18:34 |
| seele | i think the warning messages you provide are fine.. but it's still kindof messy | 18:34 |
| seele | i wonder if we should ask a few people to use it and see if they would prefer 1) having the option to break automagic or 2) not give them the option | 18:35 |
| seele | 1) would be the way it is implemented now, and 2) would be creating 2 lists, one for automagic and another for the configurable ones | 18:35 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | 2 lists? | 18:36 |
| seele | yeah, or a separator | 18:36 |
| seele | otherwise, the up/down arrows would be disabled for the top half of the list | 18:36 |
| seele | hmm.. i guess that wouldnt be too much worse than two lists | 18:36 |
| seele | i guess there are two questions. 1) do people want to reorder automagic stuff, and 2) if they do want to reorder automagic stuff, do they care they break automagic | 18:37 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | the concept of 2 lists sounds really strange to me | 18:40 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | if i had to do something like this I would prefer the up/down disabling | 18:41 |
| seele | ok | 18:41 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | anyway, should I do something for the time being? | 18:41 |
| seele | is the latest version in your ppa? | 18:41 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | I have no PPA :-) I use SVN to store the source code | 18:42 |
| seele | actually, if you could put up two versions, one as is, and the other with the up/down disabled.. i can try to find some people to test it out | 18:42 |
| seele | hmm | 18:42 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | packaging takes places when I release a new version | 18:42 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | (by apachelogger) | 18:42 |
| seele | maybe he will be nice and make me two packages for user testing :) | 18:43 |
| seele | apachelogger: ping! | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | sure | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | just dump me a tarball | 18:43 |
| seele | whoot | 18:43 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | so seele, | 18:44 |
| seele | _Artemis_Fowl_: think you could do the other version with the buttons disabled? that way we wont hvae to do this twice | 18:44 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | how exactly should something like this be iimplemented? disable the up/down arrows for all Automagic entries? | 18:44 |
| seele | yeah | 18:46 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | ok | 18:46 |
| seele | can you have a different tooltip for a disabled widget? | 18:46 |
| seele | actually, the dialog needs some instruction/text at the top. we can worry about that later i guess | 18:47 |
| ScottK | nixternal: You've got mail. | 18:47 |
| seele | we need to put some kind of message about automagic entries before the user makes a mistake | 18:47 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | the different tooltip is possible | 18:48 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | albeit strange :) | 18:48 |
| seele | yeah, that's why i didnt follow up with my thinking-out-loud | 18:48 |
| seele | just leave it as it is for now, we can figure out the user information later | 18:48 |
| seele | because it will be different depending on the approach we decide on | 18:48 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | so all I have to do is pack the current version, modify it to fit the disabling way and pack this new approach too? | 18:49 |
| nixternal | ScottK: will check it when I get home | 18:49 |
| nixternal | carrying 2 laptops is way to much...I think it is time to either setup IMAP again, or just put Mutt back on my server that IRC sits on | 18:50 |
| ScottK | nixternal: You may want to check it now if you can. You're invited to a tech board meeting in 1 hour and 10 minutes if you can make it. | 18:50 |
| seele | _Artemis_Fowl_: yes | 18:50 |
| nixternal | hr | 18:50 |
| nixternal | m | 18:50 |
| seele | _Artemis_Fowl_: then i will find a few people to test it on and see which way is better | 18:50 |
| ScottK | Yeah. I'd suggest find a way to show up. They don't come around that often. | 18:51 |
| ScottK | This is why I pinged you. | 18:51 |
| seele | the warning messages or disabling the up/down buttons | 18:51 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | seele: good. | 18:51 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | apachelogger: you will have mail tomorrow then | 18:51 |
| apachelogger | ok | 18:51 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | time to leave then... | 18:52 |
| * seele waves | 18:52 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: rock, thanks! | 18:53 |
| _Artemis_Fowl_ | seele: oh, I almost forgot it: Congrats! (both for the ring and your talk at kubuntu-tutorials-day) :-) | 18:53 |
| nixternal | ScottK: if you don't see me talk in about an hour, or right before my turn, gimme a ping please...I should be at my lappy, just in another term building rpms and losing track of time :) | 18:53 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Sure thing. You're welcome. | 18:54 |
| * _Artemis_Fowl_ leaves | 18:54 | |
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| Arby | Riddell: kopete-cryptography can't build because it depends on kdepim-kde4 which apparently no longer exists | 19:50 |
| Arby | Riddell: can I drop the dep or what replaces it? | 19:50 |
| Riddell | Arby: kdepim-kde4 is now kdepim | 19:52 |
| Riddell | which has failed to build | 19:52 |
| Arby | ah, bit of a block there then | 19:52 |
| Arby | it'll have to wait then | 19:53 |
| Arby | also , hooray MIR for QCA2 approved | 19:54 |
| Riddell | ooh, great | 19:59 |
| nixternal | Riddell, ScottK, Hobbsee == #ubuntu-meeting in a few for my core-dev app | 20:03 |
| Riddell | ooh | 20:03 |
| Arby | Riddell: if things are failing to build after upload due to missing build deps do I need to do anything? | 20:03 |
| Arby | or just wait until those pacjages are ready | 20:03 |
| Arby | *packages | 20:03 |
| Riddell | Arby: depends if it's the fault of the package or another package | 20:04 |
| Riddell | Arby: what are we talking about? | 20:04 |
| Arby | several things, let me find an example | 20:04 |
| Riddell | hi Xand3r, I approved screenie-qt, good job | 20:05 |
| smarter | print "Groovy" | 20:05 |
| smarter | I don't need to look at the copyright to know who did guidance-power-manager/cmake-modules/FindPyKDE.py ;) | 20:05 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: thx verry much | 20:05 |
| Arby | Riddell: for example http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15358768/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.kmldonkey_4%3A2.0.2-kde4.0.80-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:06 |
| Arby | Riddell: much of the extragear stuff I've done is failing to upload | 20:07 |
| Arby | errors like 2008-06-17 15:53:06 WARNING kcoloredit_4.0.80-0ubuntu1_ia64.deb: Version older than that in the archive. 4.0.80-0ubuntu1 <= 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 | 20:07 |
| Riddell | Arby: "No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libSM.so'" | 20:07 |
| Riddell | Arby: that's the fault of kde4libs | 20:07 |
| Riddell | Arby: I fixed it yesterday | 20:07 |
| Riddell | Arby: are you able to retry that build? | 20:07 |
| Arby | can do yes | 20:07 |
| Arby | well locally I can | 20:07 |
| Riddell | Arby: I mean on launchpad | 20:08 |
| Riddell | it may be only core-devs who can | 20:08 |
| Arby | on launchpad no | 20:08 |
| Arby | I don't have the power | 20:08 |
| jpds | ~motu can | 20:08 |
| Arby | Riddell: for the version conflicts the '4:' seems to confuse the issue | 20:10 |
| Arby | not sure what to do about that | 20:10 |
| Riddell | Arby: retried kmldonkey | 20:11 |
| Arby | thanks | 20:11 |
| Riddell | Arby: kcoloredit needs that 4: epoch version then | 20:11 |
| Arby | *sigh* mass rebuild take 17 | 20:11 |
| smarter | Riddell: guidance-power-manager.py has "version = 4.1.0", should I use that as the package version or 4.1.0~svn$(date -foo) ? | 20:14 |
| Arby | Riddell: I can't work out how to make kcoloredit take the epoch version | 20:34 |
| Arby | is it enough to just rename the files? | 20:34 |
| Riddell | Arby: no just change it in the changelog | 20:40 |
| Riddell | Arby: dch -i for a new changelog entry and stick a 4: at the front of the version there | 20:40 |
| Riddell | smarter: 4.1.0~svnfoo is good | 20:40 |
| Arby | I did that manually and it made no difference, let me try again with dch | 20:40 |
| \sh | Riddell: do you have a code beautifier for kate especially for python sources? | 20:41 |
| smarter | Riddell: okay | 20:41 |
| Riddell | \sh: nope | 20:43 |
| Arby | Riddell: didn't work. files are still named 4.0.80 | 20:46 |
| Arby | changelog has kcoloredit (4:4.0.80-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low | 20:46 |
| Riddell | Arby: perfect | 20:47 |
| Arby | oh | 20:47 |
| Riddell | that's it then | 20:47 |
| * Arby <- confused | 20:47 | |
| Arby | I was expecting the .dsc etc numbers to change | 20:47 |
| Riddell | naw, the epoch is mostly hidden, it's just used for when the numbering system gets screwed up | 20:48 |
| Arby | ah ok | 20:48 |
| Arby | files incoming then | 20:48 |
| Arby | Riddell: new .dsc and .diff.gz for kcoloredit on lichts | 20:51 |
| Arby | kiconedit to follow soon | 20:51 |
| Arby | Riddell: kiconedit done | 20:56 |
| Nightrose | Hobbsee: http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2008/06/omg-ponies11.html ;-) | 21:20 |
| jpds | Nightrose: arg, überladen | 21:26 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 21:26 |
| Arby | Riddell: kpovmodeler done, ready for upload | 21:31 |
| Arby | scratch that, needs a rebuild | 21:37 |
| Riddell | Arby: groovy, kdepim compiling away here for the next while | 22:05 |
| Arby | cool kpovmodeler fixed now | 22:05 |
| Arby | working on kfax now | 22:05 |
| Arby | Riddell: did I hear that extragear-plasma was going to disappear? | 22:05 |
| Riddell | Arby: yes, ignore it | 22:10 |
| nixternal | oi oi | 22:10 |
| nixternal | let me just say, editing .img files are so much fun! | 22:10 |
| Riddell | nixternal: feeling fit? | 22:10 |
| nixternal | no, feeling sore :) | 22:10 |
| nixternal | I think I dropped my buttocks a couple of towns over | 22:11 |
| Arby | Riddell: kfax done, ready for upload | 22:25 |
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