[00:00] stdin: OK, asks for my keyphrase, but then chunks out wanting me to force it to use existing dir or such [00:00] * genii sips his coffee [00:03] OK, so after doing that, the page reflects I've done something but it still appears empty, saying use bzr push lp:~mystic-scientist/+junk/pdfedit-0.4.1 but that results in a weird error on this end [00:03] eg: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Emystic-scientist/%2Bjunk/pdfedit-0.4.1/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() [00:04] yeah, lp: seems broken for pushing [00:04] it'll take a couple mins for the commit to show and the code to appear [00:04] OK [00:04] Guess I'll drink more coffee and wait for propogation [00:04] stdin: Thanks for the help [00:05] you'll get used to LP one day, scary eh? ;) [00:05] Yes :) [00:06] This all began with wanting a more recent pdfedit than 3.something :) [00:09] stdin: I must have forgot signing up there sometime in 2005 [00:12] * stdin can't remember when he signed up for LP [00:12] probably in '06 though [00:17] Do I have to commit or so? [00:18] eg: Last modified: 16 minutes ago ... Last Commit: This branch is empty [00:19] push should have do that, maybe it just takes longer for the initial commit [00:23] How long is normal before you should see a change? [00:25] stdin: I just noticed when I made it I put branch type as Hosted. Should it have been Mirrored instead? [00:26] no, hosted is right [00:26] Thats what I thought. [00:27] genii: did you bzr commit before pushing? [00:28] stdin: Yes had to do --unchanged to force it [00:29] Maybe I'll make some minor change and re-commit [00:30] worth a go [00:37] stdin: OK looks like somethings finally chugging [00:42] Success :) [00:43] got there in the end :) [00:44] stdin: What I'm wondering about is if I wanted to distribute some deb package, should I just host some falcon repo? [00:45] you could just use the PPA [00:45] stdin: I haven't been able to get anywhere with it :( [00:45] Maybe I'm just obtuse [00:47] did you ask in #launchpad about it? [00:47] or look at https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart [00:48] woo [00:48] anyone going to work on the 4.0.82 packages for Hardy? [00:48] Ah didn't even think they had a channel [01:05] evening :) [01:44] too bad the neon ones can't be converted they are nice!! === supert0nes[A] is now known as supert0nes [02:48] so what would happen if i cahnged my sources.ist to intrepid and distu-upgraded [02:48] besieds learned to type === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:49] heh :) [02:50] ;0 [02:50] good evening jjesse [02:51] here goes nothing [02:51] good morning Jucato [03:14] halfway through my update to ibex :) [03:14] can't wait to see how this vm responds [05:15] Hi Hobbsee [05:15] Saluit seele [05:28] hey dasKreech! [05:29] How are you? [05:35] doing OK [05:35] * Hobbsee has had the fun of composing a mail to the CC> [05:42] I normally compose to the BCC [06:27] * Jucato waves to Hobbsee and dasKreech [06:27] * Jucato also KicKs dasKreech [06:29] Ow! [06:29] What? [06:29] Fine I'll play MMORPGS With you [06:29] hey Jucato! [06:29] hehehe [06:30] suddenly I feel that my 1280x1024 monitor is not enough to fit all the plasmoids I want to have :) [06:31] Zoom out. Add a new one :0 [06:31] that almost *never* works for me [06:31] strange works a lot for me [06:31] adding new activities? [06:31] Kopete and Konqueror however haeva 10% chance of hosing the entire machine [06:31] Yeah [06:32] works almost all the time for me [06:32] I think it crashed the first time [06:32] dunno. whenever I try to do that my graphics slows like hell... like the mouse is being weighed down by Hobbsee or something [06:33] ooooooh [06:33] that's slow [06:33] what driver? [06:34] well.. considering it's an nvidia legacy driver, I shouldn't be surprised :) [06:34] (but that doesn't really contradict what I said about it not working for me :P) [06:34] what card? [06:34] * Hobbsee pinches the mouse. [06:35] nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 [06:35] Oh a Geforce2 [06:35] 4!! not 2. 4! [06:36] a geforce4 mx is a geforce2 card [06:36] ah [06:36] ok. if you say so :P [06:36] whatever it is. it sucks :) [06:36] pretty high end Geforce 2 but still not quite as good a low end Geforce3 [06:36] this is the first (and hopefully the only) situation that nvidia has let me down [06:37] :-) [06:37] situation = Qt/KDE 4 [06:37] well a new card shouldn't hurt too much [06:37] (newer) [06:37] actually it will [06:37] you know why? [06:37] a geforce4 non Mx should be dirt cheap if you can find it [06:37] like .. free [06:38] well, only if it's AGP. [06:38] PCI-E is out of the question [06:38] Well yeah I don't know if there were Geforce4 PCI-e cards [06:39] don't you mean AGP cards? PCI-E's the current "standard" while AGP's almost obsolete [06:39] Yeah and geforce was state of the art like 5 years ago [06:39] they are obsolete now [06:40] right. so buying a video card that would work better with Qt/KDE 4 argb stuff requires me to buy a new mobo [06:40] which I will lead to buying a new processor as well (dual core maaaybe) [06:40] all in due time [06:41] Jucato: a geforce4 should be damn near free if you can find one and a double jump above what you have now [06:42] *if* I can find one [06:42] throw me a model name and I'll try to remember if I've seen something similar to it [06:50] Geforce 4 ti 4600 [08:03] morning [08:08] how can I see what changes have been made to a package from feisty to gutsy? [08:09] debian/changelog? [08:09] clau30: it will be in the changelog, which package? [08:09] <\sh> apachelogger: I fixed yesterday the kdebindings 4.0.80 for amd64 [08:09] <\sh> (and the change works for i386 as well) [08:09] Arby: mount [08:10] thanks [08:11] clau30: search for the package on launchpad [08:12] Arby: found it on packages.ubuntu.com [08:12] clau30: it's part of util-linux so it's here on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux [08:13] Jucato: which MMO? [08:14] Arby: ah ok, thanks [08:14] dasKreech: it's called Cabal Online. another Korean-made MMORPG [08:16] Arby: it's the problem that my usb stick doesn't get mounted on gutsy anymore, but works fine in feisty.. [08:17] thought to look at the changelog (although not sure the problem is mount) [08:17] Jucato: I think I have wallpapers from that [08:18] I have one on my desktop :) [08:18] dasKreech: http://jucato.org/stuff/jucato-kde4.1-1.png [08:18] :-) [08:19] Jucato: What's in the lower left? [08:19] Show Dashboard widget [08:21] Arby: ugh, sorry, I ment it works on hardy and doesn't on gutsy :) [08:22] Arby: ugh, sorry, I ment it works on gutsy and doesn't on hardy - this is the right one! [08:28] * dasKreech sighs at Konversation :( [08:30] clau30: sorry I know nothing about how mount actually works. [08:31] check for related bugs and if there isn't one similar to your situation file one [08:31] there is one, yes [08:31] thanks anyway ;) === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [09:25] Jucato: sure, you were talking about it hours and hours earlier, but if I were you I would spring for a geforce 6 or 7, if you dig you can still find them easily enough, and they're pretty darned cheap too. [09:37] \sh: yeah, I noticed, pretty cool [09:37] * apachelogger hands \sh a cookie [09:43] <\sh> apachelogger: and it works...thanks to you :) [09:44] :) [10:24] \sh: Import Error: No module named klineedit [10:24] for leonov [10:28] <\sh> apachelogger: then kde4.py is not in uic/widget_plugins/ in pykde4 [10:28] <\sh> make clean and redo make [10:28] doesn't help [10:28] * apachelogger checks for kde4.py [10:29] <\sh> 4.0.80 ppa4? [10:29] well [10:29] <\sh> it works here and for others :) [10:29] that is the question really [10:29] no [10:29] haha [10:29] * apachelogger is not using the ppa [10:29] <\sh> lol [10:29] well [10:29] it probably makes sense, since I need a fallback version in case kde-nightly breaks [10:30] oh, btw [10:30] kde-nightly goes public today or tomorrow [10:59] mornin' [11:05] yo Nightrose [11:05] yo nixternal as well [11:05] * apachelogger hands everyone a cookie [11:05] yay! kde-nightly-qt built :D [11:09] \sh: omg, I haz menus :D [11:09] <\sh> apachelogger: yes...but now qt-designer4 is bugging with oxy [11:10] <\sh> apachelogger: but first after the pykde4 update ;) [11:10] lol [11:10] I get a segmentation fault [11:10] :D [11:24] * jpds hugs apachelogger [11:51] * nixternal is working on going totally green [11:52] no more car! I shall bike everywhere I want to go, even Antarctica :) [11:52] yay! [11:53] I will ride my bike to your house Riddell :) [11:54] just don't tell Betty downstairs, she's getting annoyed at the number of bikes in the stairwell :) [11:54] round trip bike ride to work == ~60 miles or about 100km [11:54] hardcore [11:54] ya, my arse and legs said the same thing :) [11:55] I am >.< that close to getting the companie's exchange calendar working in Kontact [11:56] then I can ditch Evolution, which I have to admit, is fairly decent, even in KDE when you work past the font woes [11:56] company's exchange calendar that is [11:56] and I can't wait for the day to ditch Yum repositories, as they have to be the biggest mess I have ever seen in my life [12:05] who here was working on FAI with Ubuntu/Debian? I remember someone here working on it [12:06] this is exactly what I need to move forward on a CentOS to an Ubuntu based appliance [12:06] ScottK? [12:06] I thought \sh honestly [12:09] mibby [12:10] FAI? [12:12] Fully Automatic Installation [12:13] our appliance servers right now use a CentOS (v5) customized distro that is fully automated so our machines can automatically boot up and iso image and start loading w/o us having to do a thing [12:14] right now I am trying to get kickstart to pass the -m 0 flag to mkfs.ext3, but I am doing it rather hackishly [12:14] would be nice if anaconda could pass this [12:20] <\sh> nixternal: i did yes :) [12:20] so my brain still works :) [12:21] fairly easy to setup? I would rather go that way than preseeding with answer files probably [12:23] <\sh> nixternal: well, if you know the system behind FAI it's fairly easy...you need the right infrastructure for it...which could be a problem [12:23] <\sh> nixternal: also FAI in Ubuntu has problems with unionfs, which is broken in ubuntu kernel [12:24] we are using ext3, so that wouldn't be an issue for us [12:25] I will start playing around with it and get an infrastructure in place for it [12:25] for v2 of our software, I would love to move away from RPMs [12:45] time for work, ttyl [12:46] * apachelogger hugs jpds back [12:50] Riddell: Yes? [12:51] nixternal: FAI features in that spec I pointed you at. [12:51] ScottK: nixternal's question not mine [12:52] although, since you have supplied an answer, I could say the question was "fancy making me some lunch?" [12:52] Right. Got that once I read the scrollback. [12:52] Sure hold on while I send it. [12:58] Hi everyone! [12:58] hey etretyak [12:59] Riddell: Should I follow kubuntu_printer_configuration.pdf for app design and usability? Or just mimic gnome version of system config printer? [13:02] etretyak: until now I've been mostly following the gnome one since that's easiest to get it working, then will move to kubuntu_printer_configuration.pdf when it mostly all works [13:02] etretyak: but there's no menu bar in anticipation of kubuntu_printer_configuration.pdf [13:03] hum.. if artemis_fowl pops in, i'm around today [13:03] missed his ping yesterday.. [13:05] Riddell: the menu bar exists in gnome version of system-config-printer.. [13:07] etretyak: right, but not in our one (since our one should one day be a kcontrol module) [13:07] Riddell: i see [13:18] Mez, ScottK: what to do with bug 214030? [13:19] Launchpad bug 214030 in gutsy-backports "Please Backport php5-xdebug" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214030 [13:19] Artemis_Fowl meet seele [13:19] * ScottK looks [13:19] Riddell: Please unsubscribe ubuntu-archive and I'll follow-up on it. [13:20] ScottK: ok, done [13:20] ScottK, why hold off? [13:21] Mez: To get confirmation that the current version is good. [13:22] ScottK, I can confirm that - I'm the debian Maintainer [13:22] Mez: Please mark in the bug what version and that it builds/runs/installs and then ping me. [13:22] Riddell: ? [13:24] ScottK, added [13:25] * ScottK looks [13:29] Riddell: As Mez says, bug 214030 is good to go now. [13:29] Launchpad bug 214030 in gutsy-backports "Please Backport php5-xdebug" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214030 [13:35] Nightrose afternoon question about those talks [13:41] Riddell: re Bug 231098 - Please see persia's comment. I'm no Java expert, but I think more work is needed before SRU. [13:41] Launchpad bug 231098 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "Please add sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin to *ubuntu-restricted-extras" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231098 [13:57] ScottK: mvo replied [13:57] * ScottK looks. [14:04] Mez: php-xdebug isn't in intrepid [14:04] source package xdebug [14:06] Are we going to package kdeplasmoids? [14:07] when beta 2 gets tagged [14:07] which ought to be today [14:07] Riddell, see bug #234960 [14:07] Launchpad bug 234960 in php-xdebug "Please sync xdebug from debian" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234960 [14:07] cool [14:07] Is someone already working on it? [14:07] smarter: no, waiting for the tagging [14:08] You're going to do it? [14:09] smarter: I expect it'll just be using the packaging from debian [14:10] okay [14:10] smarter: looking for things to package? [14:10] yep ;) [14:10] I wonder if K3B is going to be released soon [14:11] looks like it's already usable [14:11] smarter: guidance-power-manager needs packaging if you can do python [14:11] sure [14:11] Riddell wouldnt launchpad be a good place to look for stuff that needs packaging [14:11] where is it? [14:12] smarter: kdesvn for now [14:12] smarter: extragear/utils/ [14:12] ok [14:12] * smarter svn co [14:12] this would be good to have packaged too http://code.google.com/p/arora/ [14:12] eagles051387: if people have made bugs yes [14:13] Riddell: there's already a package on the site which looks pretty okay [14:13] Riddell: arora is going to debian soonish IIRC [14:13] it's on REVU [14:13] re [14:13] eagles051387: what question [14:13] ah, cool [14:13] Riddell: Hi. [14:14] hi mornfall [14:14] in fact [14:14] it already is in debian [14:14] http://packages.debian.org/sid/arora [14:14] Riddell: Do you think it would be hard to add a trigger to icecc that would restart iceccd when new gcc appears? [14:14] I just have been bitten by upgrading gcc without iceccd restart : - \. [14:14] mornfall: hmm, I don't know much about triggers [14:15] Neither do I -- but I could try to check and come up with something : - ). [14:15] So I'll poke you when I figure something. [14:15] well, gcc package could just restart iceccd if it is installed [14:15] Riddell: can I use debhelper 7 goodness for g-p-m or do you plan to backport it? [14:16] smarter: I don't plan to backport [14:16] smarter: what's good in debconf 7? [14:16] Isn't there a dh cdbs-alike in there? [14:16] apachelogger: that sounds improper [14:16] yep [14:16] smarter: Is it better than cdbs? [14:17] Riddell: well, easier than making iceccd detect a chaned gcc and restart once no job is going on ;-) [14:18] It doesn't have all the rules files (/usr/share/cdbs/*) but it's supposed to replace cdbs one day === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:20] Nightrose are those talks goign to be a nightly thing [14:20] eagles051387: huh? [14:21] Riddell: Ah, nevermind. The triggers in rpm are something entirely different than dpkg (what I have thought they would be). [14:21] Riddell: (Or maybe they aren't... let me dig more.) [14:23] man 5 deb-triggers [14:24] Nightrose those talks that took place the other night are they going to become a daily thing [14:24] eagles051387: no [14:24] ok [14:26] smarter: why would you use dh7 even though we have fullblown cdbs files for kde4? [14:26] Nightrose: I think you disappointed him [14:26] apachelogger: think so too - want me to do daily talks now? :P [14:27] Nightrose: yes [14:27] hmmmmm [14:27] NO! [14:27] you could setup a bot [14:27] ;-) [14:27] give the same talk over and over again [14:27] hehe [14:27] insanity to the rescue [14:27] apachelogger: yep, cdbs is a better choice atm [14:28] ... [14:32] ScottK: bug 211756 seems to be an outstanding backport [14:32] Launchpad bug 211756 in gutsy-backports "Please backport emesene 1.0-dist-1 from hardy" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211756 [14:33] * ScottK looks [14:34] Riddell: No one has ack'ed Feisty, so I'd suggest unsubscribe ubuntu-archive for now. [14:34] ScottK: ok [14:37] so what wierd and crazy things can i expect on my virtual machine on a dist-=upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 remix to intrepid? [14:38] mm, it may well explode [14:38] although not as much as after I remove the -kde4 packages [14:42] will looking for it to explode then ;) [14:42] hi [14:42] hi danimo [14:45] hmm.. anyone want to give some feedback on kgrubeditor and how we're handling automagic? [14:45] http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1437949_gluha/kgrubeditor.ogv [14:45] i dont think it is quite right yet, i'd prefer a better solution than a bunch of warning messages [14:46] Riddell: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_1.5.22_all.deb (--unpack) on my dist-upgrade [14:47] from hardy remix to intrepid [14:50] Riddell: are we going to remove kde-guidance-powermanager from intrepid? [14:52] smarter: yes [14:54] oi what a morning commute [14:56] morning [14:56] mornin' [14:56] nixternal: bug 215012 still present in hardy 4.1beta packages? [14:56] Launchpad bug 215012 in kdebindings-kde4 "unable to install kdebindings-kde4" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215012 [14:57] dunno, I think somebody did the kdebindings packages for beta..I didn't [14:57] oh [15:08] Riddell: Do you want patch, or should I reportbug it against Debian and it'll get to you that way? [15:08] yuriy: it's kde4bindings now [15:09] Riddell: anything I can do to help with the name changes? [15:09] * apachelogger is getting confused :S [15:11] Riddell: guidance-power-manager package almost done [15:11] but it breaks things that depends on guidance-backends [15:14] Riddell: they both provide a xf86misc.py file and pysupport doesn't like that === Guest6394 is now known as santiago-ve [15:30] Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486668 [15:30] Debian bug 486668 in icecc "iceccd needs to be restarted upon gcc/g++ upgrades" [Normal,Open] [15:30] (eeeevil bug, it's got 666 in there...) [15:31] lol [15:34] ahhhh, dude that was my iceccd issue the other day I bet [15:38] apachelogger: in hardy ppa too? [15:39] yuriy: yes [15:39] actually I fixed it in a branch [15:39] but forgot to merge it in before I uploaded to the ppa [15:39] so it's broken ... again [16:19] smarter: just assume that guidance-backends is disappearing [16:19] okay [16:19] so I'll Conflicts/Replaces/provides on kde-guidance , guidance-backends and guidance-powermanager [16:20] smarter: yep [16:37] w00t, Wine 1.0! [16:44] quick, set a world record for downloads! [16:47] * apachelogger adds mozilla.com to his school's firewall blacklist :P === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [17:46] so seele, [17:47] how should the Automagic thing be handled? [17:49] that video looks good Artemis_Fowl [17:50] Riddell: nice to hear that. but it shows only the entry-related functionality. there are still lots to be done... [17:53] mornfall: "Riddell: Do you want patch" what was that about? [17:55] * |Artemis_Fowl| hates his ISP [17:56] <\sh> nixternal: if you need help regarding fai: #fai@irc.debian.org [17:57] Riddell: icecc [17:58] mornfall: looks like we just get it from debian so fine to do it through that route [18:01] \sh and nixternal: siretart knows a bit about it too. [18:02] right now I am hacking initrd.img, minstg2.img, and stage2.img files and my head wants to explode [18:02] <\sh> ScottK: right :) [18:30] <_Artemis_Fowl_> Riddell: wasn't seele supposed to be around today? [18:31] _Artemis_Fowl_: she did say she was [18:33] _Artemis_Fowl_: i'm here! [18:34] <_Artemis_Fowl_> seele: good. I was about to leave :) [18:34] _Artemis_Fowl_: i reviewed your screen cast.. automagic sucks [18:34] <_Artemis_Fowl_> +1 from me :) [18:34] i think the warning messages you provide are fine.. but it's still kindof messy [18:35] i wonder if we should ask a few people to use it and see if they would prefer 1) having the option to break automagic or 2) not give them the option [18:35] 1) would be the way it is implemented now, and 2) would be creating 2 lists, one for automagic and another for the configurable ones [18:36] <_Artemis_Fowl_> 2 lists? [18:36] yeah, or a separator [18:36] otherwise, the up/down arrows would be disabled for the top half of the list [18:36] hmm.. i guess that wouldnt be too much worse than two lists [18:37] i guess there are two questions. 1) do people want to reorder automagic stuff, and 2) if they do want to reorder automagic stuff, do they care they break automagic [18:40] <_Artemis_Fowl_> the concept of 2 lists sounds really strange to me [18:41] <_Artemis_Fowl_> if i had to do something like this I would prefer the up/down disabling [18:41] ok [18:41] <_Artemis_Fowl_> anyway, should I do something for the time being? [18:41] is the latest version in your ppa? [18:42] <_Artemis_Fowl_> I have no PPA :-) I use SVN to store the source code [18:42] actually, if you could put up two versions, one as is, and the other with the up/down disabled.. i can try to find some people to test it out [18:42] hmm [18:42] <_Artemis_Fowl_> packaging takes places when I release a new version [18:42] <_Artemis_Fowl_> (by apachelogger) [18:43] maybe he will be nice and make me two packages for user testing :) [18:43] apachelogger: ping! [18:43] sure [18:43] just dump me a tarball [18:43] whoot [18:44] <_Artemis_Fowl_> so seele, [18:44] _Artemis_Fowl_: think you could do the other version with the buttons disabled? that way we wont hvae to do this twice [18:44] <_Artemis_Fowl_> how exactly should something like this be iimplemented? disable the up/down arrows for all Automagic entries? [18:46] yeah [18:46] <_Artemis_Fowl_> ok [18:46] can you have a different tooltip for a disabled widget? [18:47] actually, the dialog needs some instruction/text at the top. we can worry about that later i guess [18:47] nixternal: You've got mail. [18:47] we need to put some kind of message about automagic entries before the user makes a mistake [18:48] <_Artemis_Fowl_> the different tooltip is possible [18:48] <_Artemis_Fowl_> albeit strange :) [18:48] yeah, that's why i didnt follow up with my thinking-out-loud [18:48] just leave it as it is for now, we can figure out the user information later [18:48] because it will be different depending on the approach we decide on [18:49] <_Artemis_Fowl_> so all I have to do is pack the current version, modify it to fit the disabling way and pack this new approach too? [18:49] ScottK: will check it when I get home [18:50] carrying 2 laptops is way to much...I think it is time to either setup IMAP again, or just put Mutt back on my server that IRC sits on [18:50] nixternal: You may want to check it now if you can. You're invited to a tech board meeting in 1 hour and 10 minutes if you can make it. [18:50] _Artemis_Fowl_: yes [18:50] hr [18:50] m [18:50] _Artemis_Fowl_: then i will find a few people to test it on and see which way is better [18:51] Yeah. I'd suggest find a way to show up. They don't come around that often. [18:51] This is why I pinged you. [18:51] the warning messages or disabling the up/down buttons [18:51] <_Artemis_Fowl_> seele: good. [18:51] <_Artemis_Fowl_> apachelogger: you will have mail tomorrow then [18:51] ok [18:52] <_Artemis_Fowl_> time to leave then... [18:52] * seele waves [18:53] ScottK: rock, thanks! [18:53] <_Artemis_Fowl_> seele: oh, I almost forgot it: Congrats! (both for the ring and your talk at kubuntu-tutorials-day) :-) [18:53] ScottK: if you don't see me talk in about an hour, or right before my turn, gimme a ping please...I should be at my lappy, just in another term building rpms and losing track of time :) [18:54] nixternal: Sure thing. You're welcome. [18:54] * _Artemis_Fowl_ leaves === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away === milian__ is now known as milian === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso [19:50] Riddell: kopete-cryptography can't build because it depends on kdepim-kde4 which apparently no longer exists [19:50] Riddell: can I drop the dep or what replaces it? [19:52] Arby: kdepim-kde4 is now kdepim [19:52] which has failed to build [19:52] ah, bit of a block there then [19:53] it'll have to wait then [19:54] also , hooray MIR for QCA2 approved [19:59] ooh, great [20:03] Riddell, ScottK, Hobbsee == #ubuntu-meeting in a few for my core-dev app [20:03] ooh [20:03] Riddell: if things are failing to build after upload due to missing build deps do I need to do anything? [20:03] or just wait until those pacjages are ready [20:03] *packages [20:04] Arby: depends if it's the fault of the package or another package [20:04] Arby: what are we talking about? [20:04] several things, let me find an example [20:05] hi Xand3r, I approved screenie-qt, good job [20:05] print "Groovy" [20:05] I don't need to look at the copyright to know who did guidance-power-manager/cmake-modules/FindPyKDE.py ;) [20:05] Riddell: thx verry much [20:06] Riddell: for example http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15358768/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.kmldonkey_4%3A2.0.2-kde4.0.80-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [20:07] Riddell: much of the extragear stuff I've done is failing to upload [20:07] errors like 2008-06-17 15:53:06 WARNING kcoloredit_4.0.80-0ubuntu1_ia64.deb: Version older than that in the archive. 4.0.80-0ubuntu1 <= 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 [20:07] Arby: "No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libSM.so'" [20:07] Arby: that's the fault of kde4libs [20:07] Arby: I fixed it yesterday [20:07] Arby: are you able to retry that build? [20:07] can do yes [20:07] well locally I can [20:08] Arby: I mean on launchpad [20:08] it may be only core-devs who can [20:08] on launchpad no [20:08] I don't have the power [20:08] ~motu can [20:10] Riddell: for the version conflicts the '4:' seems to confuse the issue [20:10] not sure what to do about that [20:11] Arby: retried kmldonkey [20:11] thanks [20:11] Arby: kcoloredit needs that 4: epoch version then [20:11] *sigh* mass rebuild take 17 [20:14] Riddell: guidance-power-manager.py has "version = 4.1.0", should I use that as the package version or 4.1.0~svn$(date -foo) ? [20:34] Riddell: I can't work out how to make kcoloredit take the epoch version [20:34] is it enough to just rename the files? [20:40] Arby: no just change it in the changelog [20:40] Arby: dch -i for a new changelog entry and stick a 4: at the front of the version there [20:40] smarter: 4.1.0~svnfoo is good [20:40] I did that manually and it made no difference, let me try again with dch [20:41] <\sh> Riddell: do you have a code beautifier for kate especially for python sources? [20:41] Riddell: okay [20:43] \sh: nope [20:46] Riddell: didn't work. files are still named 4.0.80 [20:46] changelog has kcoloredit (4:4.0.80-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low [20:47] Arby: perfect [20:47] oh [20:47] that's it then [20:47] * Arby <- confused [20:47] I was expecting the .dsc etc numbers to change [20:48] naw, the epoch is mostly hidden, it's just used for when the numbering system gets screwed up [20:48] ah ok [20:48] files incoming then [20:51] Riddell: new .dsc and .diff.gz for kcoloredit on lichts [20:51] kiconedit to follow soon [20:56] Riddell: kiconedit done [21:20] Hobbsee: http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2008/06/omg-ponies11.html ;-) [21:26] Nightrose: arg, überladen [21:26] ;-) [21:31] Riddell: kpovmodeler done, ready for upload [21:37] scratch that, needs a rebuild [22:05] Arby: groovy, kdepim compiling away here for the next while [22:05] cool kpovmodeler fixed now [22:05] working on kfax now [22:05] Riddell: did I hear that extragear-plasma was going to disappear? [22:10] Arby: yes, ignore it [22:10] oi oi [22:10] let me just say, editing .img files are so much fun! [22:10] nixternal: feeling fit? [22:10] no, feeling sore :) [22:11] I think I dropped my buttocks a couple of towns over [22:25] Riddell: kfax done, ready for upload