| freddo_frog | Hey | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| freddo_frog | I have a few questions | 00:07 |
| zoredache | !ask | 00:07 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | 00:07 |
| freddo_frog | well how can i make my PC more like an xbox | 00:07 |
| zoredache | put it in your oven and turn set to bake @ 150 deg F | 00:09 |
| zoredache | can you be more specific? | 00:09 |
| freddo_frog | i mean when i turn the xbox on, it instantly comes on no bios | 00:09 |
| lc2 | zoredache: on some systems, you can replace the BIOS | 00:10 |
| zoredache | asus sells a motherboard with linux on the motherboard | 00:10 |
| freddo_frog | can i flash the bios and put linmux on it? | 00:10 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: http://www.coreboot.org/ | 00:10 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: with a few hardware configurations, yes | 00:10 |
| freddo_frog | what do you mean with a few hardware configurations | 00:11 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: it doesn't support most motherboards | 00:11 |
| freddo_frog | ok | 00:11 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: go to the above site, see if your chipset is supported | 00:11 |
| freddo_frog | so i can just not have a bios with it? | 00:11 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: yes, the BIOS is largely unnecessary with linux | 00:12 |
| freddo_frog | how fast can a PC start without bios? | 00:12 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: according to coreboot, you can get to a linux console in a few seconds | 00:13 |
| freddo_frog | ok | 00:13 |
| freddo_frog | how can i find what my motherboard is? | 00:14 |
| zoredache | take the panel off the side of your computer and look | 00:14 |
| freddo_frog | lspci wont work? | 00:14 |
| lc2 | dunno | 00:18 |
| x788 | i've got an old dell inspiron 2500 that i installed xubuntu 7.10 on and it doesn't recognize the built in network card. any tips? | 00:18 |
| lc2 | x788: what have you done to determine that it's not recognising it? | 00:18 |
| x788 | it doesn't show up in the network admin app and doesn't react when connected to my router anyway | 00:19 |
| x788 | nothing it does really seems to indicate it notices it | 00:20 |
| lc2 | x788: first, run ifconfig from a terminal to find out if it really hasn't detected it | 00:20 |
| lc2 | by the way, wireless card? | 00:20 |
| x788 | i don't have one, i would be using it... | 00:20 |
| freddo_frog | lc2, why cant he run lspci to see if it is detecting it? | 00:20 |
| x788 | yeah, ifconfig only shows loopback | 00:20 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: lspci does not show what hardware it has detected, it will show what hardware he has installed | 00:20 |
| freddo_frog | lc2 what is the differance? | 00:21 |
| lc2 | but, you should run lspci to figure out what network card it is | 00:21 |
| freddo_frog | if lspci sees it doesnt that mean it has detected it? | 00:21 |
| zoredache | no | 00:21 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: because lspci will show it there, whether the kernel has detected it or not | 00:21 |
| x788 | it says it cant find lscpi | 00:21 |
| lc2 | x788: ! | 00:22 |
| freddo_frog | lspci | 00:22 |
| lc2 | oh, typo | 00:22 |
| x788 | oh.. | 00:22 |
| x788 | ok... | 00:22 |
| x788 | would CardBus bridge be it? | 00:23 |
| lc2 | you'll find something liek: | 00:23 |
| lc2 | 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation EN-1216 Ethernet Adapter (rev 11) | 00:23 |
| freddo_frog | 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) | 00:23 |
| x788 | nothing says anything that references ethernet | 00:25 |
| freddo_frog | go to www.pastebin.ca and paste the output of lspci | 00:25 |
| lc2 | indeed. | 00:25 |
| freddo_frog | then give us the link | 00:25 |
| lc2 | uh wait | 00:25 |
| freddo_frog | you guys in xubuntu are really nice | 00:26 |
| lc2 | how's he meant to do that without intarnets | 00:26 |
| lc2 | PLAN FOILED | 00:26 |
| freddo_frog | how is he on irc without internet :P | 00:26 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: from another computer | 00:26 |
| freddo_frog | type it all up =] | 00:26 |
| x788 | awesome | 00:26 |
| freddo_frog | =] | 00:27 |
| x788 | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11) | 00:27 |
| freddo_frog | nah | 00:27 |
| freddo_frog | next please :P | 00:27 |
| lc2 | x788: hold on, this isn't a pcmcia card is it | 00:27 |
| x788 | no | 00:27 |
| x788 | it's built in | 00:28 |
| lc2 | okay, just testing, do continue | 00:28 |
| freddo_frog | is it possible that it is connected via internel USB =] | 00:28 |
| x788 | does > direct output to a file or is that only msdos? | 00:28 |
| lc2 | x788: yes | 00:28 |
| x788 | rockin | 00:28 |
| freddo_frog | then put it on a USB stick good plan :P | 00:28 |
| lc2 | very good plan. | 00:29 |
| freddo_frog | make sure you make it .txt so windows knows what it is :P | 00:29 |
| freddo_frog | what distro do you run lc2? | 00:30 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: xubuntu, of course | 00:30 |
| freddo_frog | i am using debian at the moment | 00:32 |
| x788 | pastebin says i forged my post and gave me a 15 min ban so here you go.... | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11) | 00:32 |
| lc2 | wtf | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| freddo_frog | haha | 00:32 |
| x788 | 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 01:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01) | 00:32 |
| x788 | 01:03.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01) | 00:32 |
| lc2 | is that it? | 00:32 |
| freddo_frog | is that it? | 00:32 |
| x788 | yup | 00:32 |
| lc2 | ooh, an echo | 00:33 |
| lc2 | x788: okay, one sec | 00:33 |
| freddo_frog | what happens if you do lsusb] | 00:33 |
| freddo_frog | lsusb | 00:33 |
| x788 | it shows two things which have ids of 0000:0000 | 00:33 |
| freddo_frog | what are there names? | 00:33 |
| x788 | it has two usb ports which are both empty right now | 00:33 |
| freddo_frog | ok | 00:34 |
| x788 | Bus 002 Device 001, and Bus 001 Device 001 | 00:34 |
| lc2 | http://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm#1000450 | 00:34 |
| lc2 | does not mention an ethernet card | 00:34 |
| freddo_frog | are you sure you do not mean a modem? | 00:34 |
| x788 | i mean network adapter? | 00:35 |
| freddo_frog | ok | 00:35 |
| lc2 | x788: one sec plox | 00:35 |
| x788 | ethernet, 8 pins... am i just being stupid or something? | 00:35 |
| freddo_frog | 8 pins? | 00:35 |
| x788 | not pins | 00:35 |
| lc2 | x788: if you've plugged an ethernet cable into it, then it's an ethernet card | 00:36 |
| lc2 | i'm googling what it is | 00:36 |
| x788 | yes | 00:36 |
| lc2 | x788: it's a 2500 right, not some sub-variant of such | 00:36 |
| x788 | it says 2500 on it. | 00:36 |
| zoredache | have you tried looking up the computer on Dells site by service tag (serial #no) it usually tells you exactly what was installed | 00:37 |
| x788 | one second... | 00:37 |
| x788 | do you have a quick link to where i can do a service tag lookup? | 00:38 |
| x788 | nevermind, just found it | 00:39 |
| lc2 | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500 | 00:41 |
| lc2 | according to that it's a 3c905, but, that doesn't explain why lspci is not showing it | 00:41 |
| freddo_frog | lc2 that might be the card in some but not others | 00:42 |
| lc2 | meh | 00:42 |
| lc2 | in some dell inspiron 2500s but not others? | 00:42 |
| lc2 | sense, this does not make | 00:42 |
| x788 | 11G482KIT..., CARD (CIRCUIT)..., NETWORK..., PC MEMORY CARD INTL. ASSOC...., QUICK FIX ENGINEERING..., WORLD WIDE... | 00:44 |
| freddo_frog | some have differant brand components | 00:44 |
| x788 | that's the only line in the service tag lookup that has anything that might be related to this | 00:44 |
| x788 | should i restart to bios or something for more info? | 00:44 |
| lc2 | x788: yes | 00:45 |
| lc2 | x788: go to your bios and make sure the onboard ethernet is not disabled or some crazy shit | 00:45 |
| lc2 | (i've just looked, according to more than one place the eepro100 driver should work, but we still have the issue of it not showing up on lspci) | 00:46 |
| freddo_frog | maybe the card is dead? | 00:47 |
| x788 | it doesn't say anything about the card in bios... | 00:47 |
| lc2 | i find that unlikely | 00:47 |
| x788 | as far as i can find... | 00:48 |
| lc2 | x788: it doesn't have an option to disable/enable it in the bios? | 00:48 |
| lc2 | (it probably does, look harder) | 00:48 |
| zoredache | Dells almost always do | 00:48 |
| freddo_frog | my acer laptop bios is compete crap, i can only change the time | 00:48 |
| x788 | under the System Devices tab it lists: ide controller, internal touchpad, serial port (with sub-options), parallel port (with sub-options), and mini-PCI device (which it says is not installed) | 00:49 |
| lc2 | wut | 00:49 |
| lc2 | x788: did this card work *before* you installed lunix? | 00:50 |
| lc2 | (brb, tea) | 00:50 |
| x788 | that's something i'm unsure of lul | 00:50 |
| freddo_frog | it seems like it is a problem with the hardware | 00:51 |
| x788 | well crap | 00:51 |
| freddo_frog | is this your first time trying linux? | 00:51 |
| lc2 | x788: boot into linux, sudo modprobe eepro100 and hope for the best | 00:52 |
| lc2 | but i think it's likely what freddo_frog said | 00:52 |
| freddo_frog | you got a second opinion =] | 00:52 |
| x788 | first time: yes. i've actually installed on any other computer because i didn't have any reason to | 00:52 |
| freddo_frog | what got you interested in it? | 00:53 |
| freddo_frog | you cannot apply for a job with toys 'r us on linux, it says unsupported operating system lol | 00:54 |
| lc2 | haha fail | 00:54 |
| x788 | i'd been messing with live cds and when i got this thing it was running windows 2000 so i thought fuck that i'm using something more up to date | 00:54 |
| freddo_frog | like ubuntu | 00:54 |
| freddo_frog | lc2 do you see linux becoming the main O/S within the next five years? | 00:55 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: no | 00:55 |
| freddo_frog | 10? | 00:55 |
| lc2 | it'll do the same thing unix systems always have, perpetual fringe operating systems | 00:55 |
| freddo_frog | hmm | 00:56 |
| x788 | psh, even with vista causing some upset, it's not going to get people to move away from windows that fast. | 00:56 |
| freddo_frog | i think with the awarness of the eeepc and other clones | 00:56 |
| freddo_frog | acer is starting to pre install linux | 00:56 |
| freddo_frog | and dell has been | 00:56 |
| lc2 | x788: i had the misfortune of using a vista machine the other day | 00:56 |
| freddo_frog | my mums laptop has vista | 00:56 |
| freddo_frog | it is so painful waiting 10 seconds to switch from firefox to thunderbird | 00:57 |
| lc2 | it had twice my processor power (in raw mhz terms) and four times the RAM | 00:57 |
| lc2 | i couldn't believe how slow it was | 00:57 |
| freddo_frog | i hate how you cannot do anything till it is fully started up | 00:57 |
| x788 | i did "sudo modprobe eepro100" and it didn't seem to do anything. no warning messages though. | 00:58 |
| lc2 | x788: and ifconfig didn't show any new interfaces? | 00:58 |
| x788 | nope | 00:58 |
| lc2 | x788: well, shit. :\ | 00:59 |
| lc2 | x788: i can only suggest that it's a hardware issue | 00:59 |
| x788 | meh, it's just annoying having a shitty box just sitting there isolated. it really has no purpose. | 00:59 |
| lc2 | x788: i'm thinking | 01:00 |
| freddo_frog | pmcia card? | 01:00 |
| x788 | that's definitely an option, i just didn't want to have to spend the cash. maybe i'll just ebay a cheap one | 01:00 |
| freddo_frog | yeah | 01:00 |
| lc2 | x788: can you give me your service #? | 01:00 |
| lc2 | or whatever it was | 01:00 |
| x788 | 6KZ9T01 | 01:01 |
| lc2 | x788: *thinks* | 01:02 |
| lc2 | okay, so it's not an eepro100 | 01:03 |
| freddo_frog | ? | 01:05 |
| lc2 | i read somewhere that the card was an eepro100, but the internet is full of lies | 01:05 |
| freddo_frog | yeah | 01:06 |
| x788 | if you're expecting a response from me, don't. i have no idea. | 01:06 |
| lc2 | x788: i know, i'm thinking out loud | 01:06 |
| freddo_frog | x788, where are you from? | 01:07 |
| x788 | texas, you? | 01:07 |
| freddo_frog | Australia | 01:07 |
| lc2 | gnahh | 01:08 |
| freddo_frog | what is gnahh | 01:08 |
| lc2 | expression of frustration/contempt | 01:08 |
| freddo_frog | ok =] | 01:08 |
| lc2 | dell says it's a 3com FE575C, which is a pcmcia card, which his card is not | 01:08 |
| lc2 | and none of this explains why lspci is not picking it up | 01:12 |
| freddo_frog | mybe it is a pmcia card | 01:13 |
| lc2 | it's not, because it's internal | 01:13 |
| lc2 | and there's still the lspci issue | 01:13 |
| freddo_frog | if lspci is not detecting it then it is a hardware issue right? | 01:14 |
| lc2 | well, maybe | 01:14 |
| lc2 | (i've just checked, if it *is* a 3com 3c55x device, that device is listed in /usr/share/misc/pci.ids, so it's not as if lspci can't recognise it because of that) | 01:15 |
| x788 | gimme 5 min, im gonna go get some food. | 01:15 |
| lc2 | x788: you do that | 01:15 |
| freddo_frog | lc2, where are you from? | 01:18 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: england | 01:18 |
| freddo_frog | cool | 01:18 |
| x788 | back | 01:20 |
| lc2 | wb | 01:21 |
| lc2 | and okay, x788, do something | 01:22 |
| lc2 | lsmod | grep yenta | 01:22 |
| x788 | yenta_socket 27532 2 | 01:24 |
| x788 | rsrc_nonstatic 14080 1 yenta_socket | 01:24 |
| x788 | pcmcia_core 40980 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic | 01:24 |
| lc2 | okay, wtf | 01:24 |
| lc2 | so it's not even that | 01:24 |
| * lc2 thinks moar. | 01:24 | |
| freddo_frog | moar? | 01:25 |
| lc2 | moar. | 01:25 |
| lc2 | x788: apparently, you're not the first person to have had this problem | 01:26 |
| x788 | so says google | 01:26 |
| lc2 | x788: as in, exactly the same nonsense you've having, the card not showing up on lspci on a dell inspiron 2500 | 01:27 |
| lc2 | TIS A MYSTERY | 01:27 |
| lc2 | x788: let's see what else we can google up | 01:27 |
| x788 | augh | 01:27 |
| lc2 | actually, i'm going to get tea, and think some more | 01:29 |
| lc2 | brb | 01:29 |
| x788 | tea sounds good right now, but i dont have any :( | 01:29 |
| * lc2 makes you some tea. | 01:31 | |
| x788 | lul thx | 01:32 |
| lc2 | x788: random thought, do you have an onboard modem | 01:34 |
| x788 | yup, right next to the ethernet port | 01:34 |
| lc2 | x788: see if you can disable it in teh bios | 01:34 |
| x788 | 1 sec to restart.. | 01:35 |
| lc2 | x788: also disable anything else you don't use (parallel port, for example) | 01:35 |
| freddo_frog | what was the yenta thing about? | 01:35 |
| lc2 | freddo_frog: that's the module for the cardbus bridge | 01:37 |
| freddo_frog | k | 01:37 |
| x788 | the modem isnt there, i turned off the serial and parallel ports | 01:37 |
| x788 | boot now? | 01:37 |
| lc2 | x788: may as well | 01:38 |
| lc2 | gotta be worth a shot | 01:38 |
| x788 | it's up | 01:41 |
| x788 | what should i do now? | 01:41 |
| lc2 | ifconfig | 01:41 |
| freddo_frog | lspci? | 01:41 |
| lc2 | lspci | 01:41 |
| lc2 | and friends | 01:41 |
| x788 | friends? | 01:42 |
| x788 | lspci and ifconfig haven't changed | 01:42 |
| lc2 | :( | 01:42 |
| * lc2 bangs his head against the wall | 01:42 | |
| lc2 | x788: okay, open up /proc/interrupts | 01:43 |
| lc2 | actually, copy /proc/interrupts onto your USB thing and send it off to the pastebin | 01:43 |
| x788 | once again it says i forged it so... | 01:46 |
| x788 | CPU0 | 01:46 |
| x788 | 0: 33745 XT-PIC-XT timer | 01:47 |
| x788 | 1: 176 XT-PIC-XT i8042 | 01:47 |
| x788 | 2: 0 XT-PIC-XT cascade | 01:47 |
| x788 | 5: 0 XT-PIC-XT uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2, yenta, yenta, Intel 82801BA-ICH2 | 01:47 |
| x788 | 6: 4 XT-PIC-XT floppy | 01:47 |
| x788 | 7: 2 XT-PIC-XT parport0 | 01:47 |
| x788 | 8: 3 XT-PIC-XT rtc | 01:47 |
| x788 | 9: 22076 XT-PIC-XT acpi | 01:47 |
| x788 | 12: 13023 XT-PIC-XT i8042 | 01:47 |
| x788 | 14: 7879 XT-PIC-XT libata | 01:47 |
| x788 | 15: 3208 XT-PIC-XT libata | 01:47 |
| x788 | NMI: 0 | 01:47 |
| x788 | LOC: 0 | 01:47 |
| x788 | ERR: 0 | 01:47 |
| x788 | MIS: 0 | 01:47 |
| lc2 | interesting | 01:48 |
| * lc2 ponders. | 01:48 | |
| lc2 | x788: okay, /var/log/dmesg | 01:49 |
| lc2 | (and please pastebin that somewhere, it'll be xbox hueg) | 01:49 |
| lc2 | wb freddo_frog | 01:49 |
| freddo_frog | thanks =] | 01:49 |
| x788 | lulz gimme a second | 01:49 |
| freddo_frog | xbox hueg? | 01:49 |
| x788 | http://pastebin.com/m561d97b6 | 01:53 |
| * lc2 reads. | 01:54 | |
| * lc2 is re-reading. | 01:58 | |
| lc2 | x788: last-ditch attempt: try the suggestion at line 117 | 02:00 |
| x788 | i typed "acpi pci=routeirq" and it tells me my battery level.... | 02:02 |
| lc2 | x788: you're meant to use that as a kernel parameter | 02:03 |
| lc2 | i forgot how to do that, lawl | 02:03 |
| lc2 | hold on | 02:03 |
| x788 | oops, lul | 02:04 |
| lc2 | okay | 02:06 |
| lc2 | sudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst | 02:07 |
| lc2 | go down to ## ## End Default Options ## (line 128 here) | 02:07 |
| lc2 | you should have a line like | 02:07 |
| lc2 | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=36c2ba78-a49c-420c-83fa-283bd30533f6 ro quiet splash | 02:07 |
| lc2 | after "splash", on the same line | 02:08 |
| lc2 | noapic nolapic pci=routeirq | 02:08 |
| x788 | save and restart? | 02:10 |
| freddo_frog | yes | 02:10 |
| lc2 | yes | 02:11 |
| freddo_frog | ECHO | 02:11 |
| freddo_frog | that was weird lol, i am on the phone to the USA and she had to do something, their radio presenter sounds funny lol | 02:13 |
| * lc2 found it weird listening to american presenters on the radio while he was there | 02:14 | |
| freddo_frog | yeah | 02:14 |
| x788 | lspci is the same | 02:17 |
| x788 | ifconfig still only shows loopback | 02:17 |
| lc2 | :( | 02:17 |
| lc2 | x788: i'm officially out of ideas. :/ | 02:17 |
| x788 | lul, what ever | 02:17 |
| lc2 | x788: sorry i can't be more help | 02:17 |
| x788 | thanx for workin on it | 02:18 |
| lc2 | x788: i can only suggest buying a cheap pcmcia card | 02:18 |
| x788 | that's prbly what im gonna do | 02:18 |
| lc2 | :/ sorry | 02:18 |
| x788 | should i reverse that last step? | 02:19 |
| x788 | just to get everything back to normal or is it not important? | 02:19 |
| lc2 | x788: may as well | 02:20 |
| lc2 | x788: try posting to the ubuntu forums, maybe someone there can figure it out | 02:20 |
| x788 | k | 02:20 |
| lc2 | although | 02:20 |
| lc2 | if it's a hardware issue, *shrug* | 02:20 |
| x788 | thx for the help, gotta bounce | 02:25 |
| lc2 | :\ | 02:26 |
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| dabud | hello i am having a problem accessing an ntfs drive seems sometimes i can and sometimes i can't | 02:28 |
| dabud | right now i can't | 02:28 |
| lc2 | dabud: check /var/log/kern.log and friends | 02:29 |
| lc2 | but do define "can't", what happens when you try? | 02:29 |
| dabud | failed to open directory "MUSIC" Permission denied | 02:30 |
| lc2 | did you mount it as root | 02:31 |
| lc2 | (also try sudo ls /dir/here ) | 02:31 |
| dabud | i dont think so i just used ntfs-3g anf it worked ok for a while along with another ntfs drive I have | 02:32 |
| dabud | the other drive is stillaccessible but not thisone | 02:32 |
| lc2 | "permission denied" suggests that it is working | 02:33 |
| lc2 | do you get that when you try to mount it? or when you try to do anything with it? | 02:33 |
| dabud | yes but then how would i change permissions on it | 02:33 |
| lc2 | ^^ see question | 02:34 |
| dabud | it is auto mounted thru ntfs-3g i believe and i can't DO anything with it | 02:34 |
| dabud | i know the drive is ok i rebooted into Windows and checked | 02:34 |
| lc2 | dabud: run mount, make sure the filesystem is actually mounted | 02:35 |
| dabud | how do i do that? | 02:35 |
| lc2 | go to a terminal, type "mount" | 02:35 |
| xbj9000 | today I am having trouble with file-roller | 02:35 |
| xbj9000 | it takes about 4 minutes to start up | 02:36 |
| dabud | lc2 i see all other drives but not that one | 02:36 |
| xbj9000 | and then it runs poorly | 02:36 |
| xbj9000 | dabud what are you trying to do? | 02:37 |
| dabud | access a ntfs harddrive that i thot was mounted apparently it is not | 02:37 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: strace file-roller | 02:37 |
| xbj9000 | ah I helped someone with this just last night | 02:37 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: see what's causing the holdup | 02:37 |
| lc2 | or file-roller whateverfile.ext | 02:38 |
| xbj9000 | whoah endless scrolling | 02:38 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: yes | 02:38 |
| dabud | so if its not mounted why is it listed in fstab? | 02:39 |
| xbj9000 | what is the fstab line? | 02:39 |
| dabud | and more to the point why would ntfs-3g mount my other ntfs drive and not this one? | 02:40 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: you'll probably see it hold up on certain system calls while it's starting up | 02:40 |
| dabud | sec xbj9000 | 02:40 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: that, or run top and see the state of the program while it's being slow | 02:40 |
| xbj9000 | lc2 I don't know what to do with this info | 02:41 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: oh. | 02:41 |
| dabud | #/dev/sda1 | 02:42 |
| dabud | UUID=82444AB2444AA92D /media/Music vfat defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0 | 02:42 |
| xbj9000 | it should say ntfs-3g instead of vfat probably | 02:42 |
| xbj9000 | what is the file system? | 02:42 |
| dabud | can i change that? | 02:42 |
| xbj9000 | yeah | 02:43 |
| xbj9000 | also the uuid looks odd to me, and you can use a normal path instead of UUID=123456789 | 02:43 |
| dabud | i'll try bbiab ty lc2 xbj9000 | 02:43 |
| xbj9000 | like replace that part with /dev/sda1 | 02:43 |
| xbj9000 | lc2 at this time it's saying a lot of NULL resource unavailable etc. | 02:44 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: yeah, that's just the result of selects | 02:44 |
| xbj9000 | I'm just going to junk it and use xarchive / xarchiver | 02:45 |
| lc2 | xbj9000: yeah, you do that :D | 02:45 |
| lc2 | gnome sucks | 02:45 |
| lc2 | :D | 02:45 |
| xbj9000 | heh | 02:45 |
| xbj9000 | well this machine is a 500MHz celeron so it's going to be using xubuntu :p | 02:45 |
| xbj9000 | it's for a friend | 02:45 |
| xbj9000 | I normally like file roller on my own machine | 02:46 |
| xbj9000 | but even there I have to use xarchive for password protected rar's | 02:46 |
| xbj9000 | happen to know much about NES emulators? | 02:47 |
| dabud | ok i went and changed it ti ntfs-3g in fstab | 02:50 |
| dabud | do i have to reboot to make it work? | 02:50 |
| xbj9000 | yeah | 02:51 |
| xbj9000 | did you change the UUID? | 02:52 |
| dabud | no shud i have | 02:52 |
| xbj9000 | I usually do just because it's easier to read with normal paths | 02:52 |
| dabud | this ntfs-3g is supposed to do all that? | 02:52 |
| dabud | tell me what to change pls | 02:53 |
| xbj9000 | the ntfs-3g part identifies the partition as windows ntfs format | 02:53 |
| dabud | ok | 02:53 |
| xbj9000 | replace UUID=82444AB2444AA92D with /dev/sda1 | 02:53 |
| dabud | how do i know its sda1 | 02:54 |
| xbj9000 | well the comment line said it is and I assumed that's correct | 02:54 |
| xbj9000 | an fstab line works like this... | 02:54 |
| dabud | well i am not sure any command to tell me that? | 02:54 |
| xbj9000 | yes | 02:54 |
| dabud | blkid? | 02:55 |
| xbj9000 | sudo fdisk -l | 02:55 |
| dabud | k i will do that one sec pls | 02:55 |
| xbj9000 | that will show your drives and partitions | 02:56 |
| xbj9000 | there is a 'system' column and your windows partition will be listed there as ntfs or vfat or possibly something else, but most likely ntfs | 02:56 |
| shane_ | how do i mount my digital camera in xubuntu it picked up auto in kubuntu | 02:57 |
| xbj9000 | not sure shane_ | 02:57 |
| xbj9000 | did you get things figured out from the other night? | 02:57 |
| shane_ | yah it was java | 02:57 |
| xbj9000 | right | 02:58 |
| shane_ | i made sun default and it sorted itself out | 02:58 |
| xbj9000 | right I forgot what your issue had been | 02:58 |
| xbj9000 | usually I can plug a camera in and it opens a file browser automatically | 02:58 |
| dabud | shane digikam seems to work well for me | 02:59 |
| shane_ | yah same with when i had kubuntu but xubuntu doesnt | 02:59 |
| shane_ | ok ill add that one | 02:59 |
| xbj9000 | I guess I've never tried i in xubuntu | 02:59 |
| dabud | no i am using xubuntu 8.04 on this machine and digikam | 02:59 |
| xbj9000 | dabud what did fdisk -l tell you? | 02:59 |
| shane_ | me either but i just recorded a deer tryin to play with my neighbors dog it was only a few feet away it was preety cool | 03:00 |
| dabud | sry xbj900 it says sda1 and also that it is fat16 | 03:00 |
| xbj9000 | ah | 03:00 |
| xbj9000 | then maybe that vfat part of the line should stay | 03:00 |
| dabud | and is fat16 a problem? | 03:01 |
| xbj9000 | try just changing the UUID= part to /dev/sda1 | 03:01 |
| xbj9000 | I'm not sure about fat support in linux hang on | 03:01 |
| dabud | k and change back to Vfat? | 03:01 |
| xbj9000 | also doe the mount point actually exist? | 03:01 |
| dabud | not being facetious but how wud I know that? | 03:02 |
| xbj9000 | does the folder media/Movies exist | 03:02 |
| dabud | yes but it has an X on it where the other ntfs does not | 03:03 |
| dabud | shall i just uncomment the line [sda1] or do i take the uuid number right out | 03:04 |
| xbj9000 | x on it? | 03:04 |
| xbj9000 | replace "UUID=7654321" with /dev/sda1 | 03:05 |
| dabud | yes i think that has to do with the ntfs-3g stuff | 03:05 |
| xbj9000 | also change ntfs-3g back to vfat | 03:05 |
| amy__ | Hi, I was wondering if Xubuntu works well on 64 bit architectures. I just got an Intel Core 2 Duo. | 03:06 |
| xbj9000 | xubuntu works on 64 yes, you should download the 64 version of course though | 03:06 |
| xbj9000 | you will have to do a couple of work-arounds for java and flash though | 03:06 |
| amy__ | right. i just wanted to make sure it wasnt severely unstable or something | 03:06 |
| xbj9000 | nah | 03:06 |
| xbj9000 | not that I've seen | 03:07 |
| amy__ | will the livecd image work off a dvd? | 03:07 |
| xbj9000 | I suppose | 03:07 |
| xbj9000 | no blank CDs? | 03:07 |
| n5pwp | Has the eeexubuntu group been rolled into this group or did it just go away? | 03:07 |
| dabud | xbj9000 so now i shud reboot? | 03:08 |
| xbj9000 | yes | 03:08 |
| dabud | k ty xbj900 | 03:09 |
| xbj9000 | I don't know, n5pwp | 03:09 |
| n5pwp | OK, thanks. IT was listed on the eeeuser wiki but I don't see it in the list of groups on freenode. thanks anyway. | 03:10 |
| xTOGx | hello | 03:12 |
| xTOGx | how do i go about telling wine where to find an iso image | 03:12 |
| xTOGx | i mean, it's on my hard drive, i just don't know where | 03:12 |
| xTOGx | i mean, i know where, i just cant tell wine throught the terminal where it is | 03:13 |
| dabud | xbj9000 hello | 03:15 |
| xbj9000 | hi | 03:15 |
| xbj9000 | any luck? | 03:15 |
| xTOGx | me? | 03:16 |
| xTOGx | no | 03:16 |
| dabud | didn't work or i screwed something up | 03:16 |
| xTOGx | oh...n/m | 03:16 |
| xbj9000 | no I meant dabud, sorry xTOGx I don't use WINE | 03:16 |
| xTOGx | sokay | 03:16 |
| xbj9000 | hmm | 03:16 |
| xbj9000 | dabud what does your fstab line look like now? | 03:16 |
| xbj9000 | what happens if you try to enter /media/Movies? | 03:17 |
| dabud | sec | 03:17 |
| dabud | whoops it still has comment line on it i will remove it and reboot sry | 03:18 |
| xbj9000 | well show me | 03:18 |
| dabud | k | 03:18 |
| dabud | #/dev/sda1 /media/Music vfat defaults,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 0 | 03:19 |
| xbj9000 | yes remove that # | 03:19 |
| dabud | k bbiasec | 03:19 |
| amy__ | l | 03:20 |
| amy__ | hopefully there's no problems with the new video card i got under xubuntu | 03:23 |
| amy__ | that card was bloody huge. Took up two bay slots, and 2xPCI-E power connectors. | 03:23 |
| shane_ | what kinda card is that | 03:24 |
| xbj9000 | I hope dabud makes it back I found some more info for him :p | 03:27 |
| xbj9000 | hi dabud | 03:30 |
| xbj9000 | any good? | 03:30 |
| xbj9000 | I found the correct method now | 03:30 |
| dabud | nope still not accessible could it be that it is vfat not ntfs? | 03:30 |
| xbj9000 | try this fstab line instead.. | 03:30 |
| dabud | k | 03:30 |
| xbj9000 | /dev/sda1 /media/Movies vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0 | 03:31 |
| xbj9000 | it's from a Debian page.. "If you want to mount FAT partitions on boot-up to allow users to read and write use the following command in your /etc/fstab file" | 03:32 |
| xbj9000 | and one of the comments there suggested this, if that doesn't work | 03:34 |
| xbj9000 | If you are trying to mount FAT partition try this | 03:34 |
| xbj9000 | /dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat noauto,users,rw,exec 1 0 | 03:34 |
| dabud | ok just a ? tho is this mucking about going to do any damage to files in this drive? | 03:34 |
| xbj9000 | I doubt it but I'm not comfortable saying for sure :p | 03:35 |
| dabud | so should i check 1st to see if it is in fact a vfat? | 03:35 |
| xbj9000 | fstab doesn't write or change partitions it only mounts them | 03:35 |
| dabud | ok | 03:36 |
| xbj9000 | well you said it is fat16 right? | 03:36 |
| xbj9000 | vfat is the option for those | 03:36 |
| dabud | is ther any way in xubuntu termial to check if a drive is vfat or ntfs? | 03:36 |
| xbj9000 | it told you when you ran sudo fdisk -l | 03:36 |
| dabud | ok so i must have formatted it like that way back when when i did original thru win xp i guess | 03:38 |
| xbj9000 | yeah xp is usually ntfs but fat is possible | 03:38 |
| dabud | ok will try 1st suggestion and be biab ty | 03:38 |
| xbj9000 | what does it say for /dev/sda1 in sudo fdisk -l | 03:38 |
| dabud | it says sda1 is my linux drive | 03:40 |
| dabud | ext3 etc | 03:40 |
| dabud | shows sdc1 as mu far16 | 03:41 |
| dabud | fat16 | 03:41 |
| dabud | well thats a little confusing | 03:41 |
| xbj9000 | ok then | 03:43 |
| xbj9000 | in that case | 03:43 |
| dabud | snafu | 03:44 |
| xbj9000 | you should be making a /dev/sdc1 line instead of sda1 | 03:44 |
| xbj9000 | :p | 03:44 |
| xbj9000 | but otherwise the line I gave you is right | 03:44 |
| dabud | mmm why did my first fdisk say it was sda1 | 03:45 |
| xbj9000 | is that your only windows partition? | 03:45 |
| dabud | no. | 03:45 |
| xbj9000 | are you sure it said that? | 03:45 |
| dabud | i have 3 drives | 03:45 |
| dabud | 1] linux - 3 partitions | 03:45 |
| xbj9000 | but only trouble mounting the one partition? | 03:45 |
| dabud | 2] Windows - 2 paritions | 03:46 |
| dabud | 3] Music - 1 partotion | 03:46 |
| dabud | partition | 03:46 |
| dabud | yes i am sure it always said my linux was sdb1 2 and 3 | 03:47 |
| xbj9000 | this channel is slow, why don't you go ahead and paste your fdisk output | 03:47 |
| dabud | it always listed my windows drive as sdc1 2 | 03:47 |
| xbj9000 | yeah sdc1 | 03:47 |
| dabud | and my music drive as sda1 | 03:47 |
| xbj9000 | is the music drive what we're trying to mount? | 03:48 |
| dabud | actually windows was scd1 and scd5 | 03:48 |
| dabud | yes | 03:48 |
| xbj9000 | why mount it in /media/Movies? :p | 03:48 |
| dabud | not doing that s/b /media/music | 03:49 |
| dabud | u want me to paste fdisk here? | 03:50 |
| xbj9000 | I'm trying to message you in a private window | 03:50 |
| xbj9000 | but yes either here or there | 03:50 |
| dabud | sec | 03:51 |
| amy__ | it's a Geforce 9800 I think it was. | 03:58 |
| amy__ | btw. Can you do a dual boot with windows, or does windows XP need to go on a certain drive/partition? | 03:58 |
| amy__ | I can't recall if Windows XP needs the first drive/partition or not | 03:58 |
| xbj9000 | as I remember windows doesn't like to install with other things and will format the whole drive usually, but it's been years | 04:00 |
| xbj9000 | I always had to do windows first | 04:00 |
| amy__ | xbj9000, both 250gb drives are empty. I'm starting from scratch, I want WinXP on one, Xubuntu on the other. | 04:01 |
| xbj9000 | then I think it will be easier to install the xp first | 04:01 |
| amy__ | it's what i'd consider a heavyweight gaming machine, so i wanted to be able to play games like NWN2, and all those other neat games like Mass Effect i think it's called. | 04:01 |
| xbj9000 | then grub can detect it when it sets up | 04:01 |
| amy__ | hm, ok. Sounds good to me. | 04:02 |
| xbj9000 | install the xp on one drive, or part of one drive, and during ubuntu install do manual partitioning and put it on the other | 04:02 |
| xbj9000 | then windows will appear in grub at startup once they are both on there | 04:03 |
| amy__ | sounds great. | 04:04 |
| xbj9000 | do you know how to do the manual partitioning though? | 04:04 |
| amy__ | not with xubuntu. I'm used to partitioning using fdisk. | 04:06 |
| amy__ | though i'm not sure what the recommended partitioning scheme is for dual core/high ram(2gb) systems | 04:07 |
| xbj9000 | oh but you do know the file structure then | 04:07 |
| xbj9000 | for that ram I would only give it about 300~512mb swap | 04:07 |
| amy__ | yeah, reisferfs or ext3 for me, swap and one other, i think it's code 83, or so. | 04:08 |
| xbj9000 | xfs? | 04:11 |
| xbj9000 | I don't use any 'odd' systems | 04:11 |
| xbj9000 | but anyway if you know that then it won't be a problem during install | 04:11 |
| amy__ | *nods* | 04:13 |
| amy__ | shouldn't, been awhile since i've installed a system, but it's good to get some practice in from time to time. | 04:13 |
| xbj9000 | I do mine /boot = ext2 80mb | 04:15 |
| xbj9000 | and / = ext3 5gb | 04:15 |
| xbj9000 | and /usr = ext3 4gb | 04:16 |
| xbj9000 | and /tmp = ext3 9gb (for movie copying) | 04:16 |
| xbj9000 | and rest for /home | 04:16 |
| xbj9000 | boot can be smaller but I found it would fill up and crash with kernel updates | 04:18 |
| joshual | hey folks, how is xubuntu? havent used xfce in years, been using ubuntu of late | 04:33 |
| arvind_khadri | after i enabled compiz in XFCE i cant login there | 05:02 |
| arvind_khadri | after i enabled compiz in XFCE i cant login there...how do i set that rigjt | 05:04 |
| arvind_khadri | is anybody even listening??? | 05:13 |
| freddo_frog | Hey Guys | 06:38 |
| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| jarnos | Anybody else using XChat in Hurdy? I can't make it beep on message on a channel. Beep works in sound preferences, though. | 07:09 |
| Pilot109 | I have an older computer that I am considering putting Xubuntu on. I only have 160MB of ram though. Is there a version I can use? | 07:16 |
| TheSheep | yes, download the alternate cd and install using that | 07:16 |
| TheSheep | be warned that some applications may be slow | 07:17 |
| Pilot109 | ok, so just use the alternate cd of the most current version? | 07:18 |
| TheSheep | yeah | 07:19 |
| Pilot109 | thanks | 07:19 |
| joshual | hey folks are there directions on installing xubuntu on ubuntu? just install xubuntu-desktop? | 07:31 |
| Myrtti | basically yes | 07:33 |
| === MrNaz` is now known as MrNaz | ||
| kripz | There's some mouse button combo that keeps pasting, how do i disable it, even better, what is it? I seem to always paste when im using the touchpad, wtf am i pressing? | 12:13 |
| ablomen | kripz, i think left+right click | 12:14 |
| ablomen | normally when you press the scrollwheel down it pastes the text you selected | 12:14 |
| kripz | How can i disable all that? my touchpad seems to be really sensitive | 12:15 |
| ablomen | and if you dont have a scollwheel/middle mouse button it emulates the behaviour when you left+right click at the same time | 12:15 |
| ablomen | ehm not sure, lemme check | 12:15 |
| kripz | I have a sidescrolling touchpad + left/right button | 12:15 |
| kripz | vertical/horizontal scroll | 12:16 |
| ablomen | ok yeah then it should be lef+right at the same time | 12:16 |
| ablomen | anyway you can make the mouse less sensitive in settingsmanager->mouse | 12:16 |
| ablomen | and for the emulation i have to look around a bit | 12:16 |
| kripz | ok | 12:17 |
| ablomen | kripz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452139 << this should be it :) | 12:17 |
| kripz | ok will look into it | 12:17 |
| ablomen | ok good luck | 12:17 |
| kripz | It worked, thank you | 12:20 |
| kripz | while i was there i enabled horizontal scrolling, it was disabeld =\ | 12:20 |
| ablomen | ah :) | 12:21 |
| ablomen | np | 12:21 |
| kripz | ablomen, it just happen again rofl | 12:37 |
| kripz | something to do with scrolling | 12:37 |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| kripz | Mem: 1019524k total, 802152k used, 217372k free, 21812k buffers | 14:25 |
| kripz | Swap: 2980016k total, 0k used, 2980016k free, 398700k cached | 14:25 |
| kripz | should xubuntu be using this much memory? | 14:25 |
| TheSheep | depends on what you're running | 14:27 |
| TheSheep | note also that linux usually uses all available memory | 14:28 |
| kripz | ah i see | 14:29 |
| TheSheep | kripz: use the system->system monitor to actually see how much of your ram is "free", as in it can bee used by applications | 14:31 |
| kripz | TheSheep, under memory/swap it says 400 40% | 14:32 |
| kripz | under the list of processes, it only looks like 100mb is being used | 14:32 |
| kripz | the other 300 is unlisted | 14:32 |
| kripz | oops, the other 600 | 14:33 |
| TheSheep | kripz: add the 'writable memory' column, that's pretty much the closest to what you want | 14:33 |
| Yoren | how do I turn off the automatic accenting in xfce? i looked around but can find where the keymaps for xmodmap are hidden. | 14:39 |
| TheSheep | Yoren: automatic accenting? | 14:40 |
| Yoren | when i type the ' character on my keyboard, xfce eats it up and automatically places an accent on the following character | 14:42 |
| Yoren | really really annoying | 14:42 |
| Yoren | windows does this by default too, but i know how to turn it off there :/ | 14:43 |
| Yoren | some forum posts suggest changing the keymaps with xmodmap, but they are not in their expected place | 14:44 |
| TheSheep | Yoren: you probably want a keyboard layout that doesn't do that, if you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' you will be able to select among several keyboard layouts for your language | 14:44 |
| Yoren | i will try that, thank you for the help | 14:46 |
| Yoren | TheSheep: great, now my desktop resolution doesn´t go higher than 800x600 and i still have the same problem | 14:54 |
| TheSheep | O.o | 14:54 |
| TheSheep | it should have written a backup copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 14:55 |
| TheSheep | you can copy it back | 14:55 |
| TheSheep | it's probably called /etc/X11/xorg.conf-date | 14:55 |
| Yoren | iĺl try that | 14:56 |
| Yoren | see how annoying that apostrophe gets :D | 14:56 |
| TheSheep | yeah | 14:57 |
| Yoren | probably impossible, but is there a way to reload the xorg.conf without restarting x? | 15:07 |
| ablomen | nope | 15:08 |
| Yoren | brb then | 15:09 |
| Yoren | '''''''''''''''''''''''' yay, removing the "Option"XkbVariant""intl"" line from the xorg conf worked perfectly | 15:14 |
| instprob1 | can anyone here help me after multiple install failures | 15:36 |
| Dombre | can anyone help me configure my friends wireless card he's got a trendnet TEW-423PI, I've installed ndiswrapper and madwifi and I'm still not detecting the card. | 15:45 |
| === adam is now known as Guest49843 | ||
| === adam_ is now known as maxamillion | ||
| thinkmassive | I edited some configuration that changed the time required to hover before "tooltips" popup but I can't remember where, can anyone tell me where this setting is? | 16:55 |
| === maxamill1on is now known as maxamillion | ||
| Jeren | Good morning, channel. I'm wanting to ensure that I've uninstalled something completely. This is a source code package that I downloaded, compiled, and installed. Thus far, I've done a "make clean". Is there anything else I should do to remove this program? | 17:18 |
| holo | hi | 17:36 |
| holo | i installed spim manually | 17:36 |
| holo | then removed spim manually, only two files it seems | 17:36 |
| holo | then installed spim through aptitude | 17:36 |
| holo | then i run "spim" and I get "bash: /usr/local/bin/spim: no such file or directory" | 17:37 |
| holo | this is by far the most strange error I ever got | 17:37 |
| holo | $ whereis spim | 17:37 |
| holo | spim: /usr/bin/spim /usr/lib/spim /usr/share/man/man1/spim.1.gz | 17:37 |
| holo | and yes, /usr/bin/spim is there an runs | 17:37 |
| zoredache | Jeren: the 'make clean' target does not remove the program most of the time... As for removal. Check the readme. Or look at the Makefile to see if it has an uninstall target | 17:38 |
| holo | why the hell does he say /usr/local/bin/spim exists, or even why does he look for something that isn't there? | 17:38 |
| holo | when I search for *spim* keyword I get only spim binary in the /usr/bin directory | 17:38 |
| zoredache | try 'which spim' | 17:39 |
| holo | $ which spim | 17:39 |
| holo | /usr/bin/spim | 17:39 |
| holo | zoredache, which is in agreement with where, since where just points to one | 17:39 |
| holo | so there are no more options | 17:39 |
| zoredache | does it run if you do a '/usr/bin/spim' | 17:40 |
| holo | I think there is a database query, instead of directory query | 17:40 |
| holo | zoredache, yes | 17:40 |
| zoredache | do you have an alias or anything? | 17:40 |
| holo | some database is in a layer below the directory one that says where the binaries are | 17:40 |
| holo | zoredache, no | 17:41 |
| holo | hm | 17:41 |
| zoredache | type 'alias' | 17:41 |
| holo | i will check | 17:41 |
| holo | no | 17:41 |
| holo | just the color alias for ls | 17:41 |
| holo | zoredache, can this be related to the database that these new distributions have that works for tab completion on command option? | 17:42 |
| zoredache | holo: I guess that is possible. I don' tknow much about that though | 17:42 |
| holo | I never had similar problem with distribution that didn't come with this kind of completion | 17:42 |
| holo | zoredache, find / -iname "*" -exec grep -H /usr/local/bin/spim {} \; should solve the problem | 17:43 |
| holo | just some minutes I will come back | 17:43 |
| holo | I hope the database isn't binary | 17:44 |
| holo | but sometimes one can find strings in binary files | 17:44 |
| Jeren | zoredache: Thanks for the suggestions. | 17:44 |
| holo | Its quite reasonable why this is happening | 17:45 |
| holo | its for performance | 17:45 |
| holo | there is a database that is actually queried to save time regarding a query to directory path | 17:46 |
| holo | the database wasn't updated because I removed files manually | 17:46 |
| holo | regardless of some database | 17:46 |
| holo | though this database is not very friendly of manual installs | 17:47 |
| holo | But I welcome with appreciation this kind of feature. each object entry of executable, should something that has some fields like options | 17:49 |
| holo | these options can be used also in a query | 17:49 |
| holo | when you autocomplete | 17:49 |
| holo | in this manual install, this feature is pointless, because this information must come in a package | 17:49 |
| zoredache | holo: ubuntu/debian in general isn't very friendly to manual installs | 17:49 |
| holo | and not in the source I used | 17:49 |
| holo | zoredache, I know. This yet new database caught me by surprise though | 17:50 |
| holo | anyway, when the database is found, it doesn't pose a problem anymore if I really need to make another manual removal | 17:51 |
| clementis | I recently installed xubuntu Hardy. Now, if I insert a movie dvd/cd totem starts automatically but echos the error: "Location not found". Why? What can I do? | 18:09 |
| TheSheep | !dvd | 18:19 |
| ubottu | For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs | 18:19 |
| NullName | Can someone please tell me how I can start VNC server when my computer reboots?(8.04 xubuntu (xfce)) Currently, I'm using the following code to start the service: /usr/bin/x11vnc -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 | 18:35 |
| glitsj16 | NullName: add your code (or a link to a script that runs it) to settings > settings manager > autostarted apps .. have you tried that ? | 18:36 |
| nikolam | During update of Xubuntu today (8.04, 64-bit xubuntu) I got this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20927/ | 18:36 |
| nikolam | What should I do? | 18:37 |
| NullName | thanks! | 18:37 |
| nikolam | glitsj16, Does those apps are started every time you log in with gdm or they are started anyway? Under what account they are started if no user is logged in?? | 18:38 |
| NullName | THanks glitsj16...this is what I needed... | 18:38 |
| nikolam | I think that he wants to start VNC no matter what user is logged on or if any user is at the desk | 18:38 |
| glitsj16 | NullName: your welcome | 18:38 |
| NullName | oh wait....nikolam..youre right | 18:39 |
| NullName | nikolam: Any idea how I can have VNC start, just like ssh and apache does? | 18:39 |
| glitsj16 | nikolam: not sure, you might try adding a script to the /etc/init.d dir to achieve that | 18:40 |
| NullName | I need to reboot this PC, but it's in my roommates room, who is asleep. I was hoping to be able to reboot the PC and be able to log back into VNC once the user llogin prompt starts.. | 18:40 |
| zoredache | NullName: you could always just ssh in and start the vnc server | 18:41 |
| nikolam | maybe the firs thing would be to install vnc server package and then check vnc server documentation | 18:41 |
| nikolam | I urge you no matter what, never start vnc server withoul encryption | 18:41 |
| NullName | zoredache: Oh YEA! **hits himself. | 18:41 |
| NullName | Thanks guys. I had to stay up all night working, and I'm way tired.... | 18:42 |
| NullName | I'll just ssh in. Take care. | 18:42 |
| nikolam | sleep well.. | 18:42 |
| zoredache | Personally, I do not leave the x11vnc running. I build and ssh tunnel, and start the server in a single command ssh -L5900:localhost:5900 -t mycomputer.blah.com sudo x11vnc -localhost -nopw -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loop | 18:43 |
| NullName | That's already what I was doing actually...I just thought that since I was rebooting, the scenario was different | 18:44 |
| NullName | I only open it in the shell when I use it.. | 18:45 |
| NullName | Just like I only forward ports through my firewall when I use them....I just leave my firewall webserver port open (psswd protected) and then open ports when needed... | 18:46 |
| NullName | well I have to rebbot for real. seeya | 18:46 |
| clementis | ubottu: I've installed all the necessery codecs! On my last ubuntu gnome box movies and music played well. Now the enoying error of totem: Location ot found | 19:03 |
| ubottu | clementis: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:03 |
| clementis | Does anyone have an idea why on a standard xubuntu 8.04 installation including all necessary codecs DVD movies and music cd's couldn't be played automatically?? Totem starts automatically but with an error: "Location not found" Any idea?? | 19:07 |
| Myrtti | have you updated your kernel? | 19:09 |
| Myrtti | running 64-bit? | 19:09 |
| uliba | hi all, I am trying to install xubuntu using the desktop cd but the xserver does not start. The system is an old acer aspire 1350 with an s3 embedded graphics card. I was using xubuntu edgy previously but run out of support | 19:13 |
| uliba | the error that I gen is "(EE)" chomre(0): no valid modes found, any ideas? thanks | 19:14 |
| clementis | I'm running not a 64-bit mashine and I started: apt-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade | 19:16 |
| Myrtti | clementis: try vlc | 19:33 |
| clementis | Myrtti: I'm running mplayer. is there a major difference betwenn mplayer and vlc? | 19:47 |
| clementis | Myrtti: Do you know how to autostart mplayer after inserting a dvd? | 19:48 |
| glitsj16 | clementis: have a look in the settings > setiings manager > removable drives and media section .. from there, second tab (multimedia) to check if autoplay is ticked and points to 'mplayer' instead of the default 'totem' .. | 19:57 |
| clementis | glitsj16: Thank you! I think this helps. Do you know what cdda:/ means? | 20:50 |
| zoredache | clementis: cdda is usually cd audio | 20:58 |
| clementis | Is cdda only an appreviation or can it somehow be used? In my audio settings I find "audacious cdda:\" | 21:47 |
| jokoon | hello, I have the bluetooth icon in the tray, but "browse device" is greyed | 22:00 |
| thinkmassive | clementis: looks like gnome is using it as a protocol at least: The new cdda:// protocol allows the file manager to read tracks on a CD (http://www.linux.com/feature/129742) | 22:01 |
| clementis | thinkmassive: thx | 22:26 |
| clementis | if you open: settings > setiings manager > removable drives and media section which command entry do you have under audio-cd?? | 22:28 |
| thinkmassive | brasero | 22:32 |
| thinkmassive | it works pretty well most of the time | 22:32 |
| thinkmassive | how do I change the delay before tooltips pop up when hovering over a button? | 23:24 |
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| allymarie | looking for suprie | 23:58 |
| allymarie | or someone to help me get my nvidia drivers | 23:58 |
| TheSheep | !nvidia | allymarie | 23:58 |
| ubottu | allymarie: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 23:58 |
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