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richard_device look me wrong00:13
khaiser_...00:19
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a61_Can I upgrade my memory in this pc2100 to say 1GB or 2GBsjust by plugging it in ?00:39
geniia61_: They still make pc2100 ddr up to a gig. So if your motherboard supports it, likely00:41
a61_okay thank you00:42
geniinp00:42
vbgunzis there anyway to get both Kubuntu and Kmail to stop asking for a password the very first time they connect? With Kopete there is no clear cut way or intuitive way to do this :(00:48
filo1234hi is possible to lock  upgrade some packages, linux-image for example from adept or command line?01:08
genii!pinning01:08
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto01:08
filo1234genii:  thanks i read01:09
geniifilo1234: You're welcome01:09
filo1234genii:  i have not preferences file in /etc/apt  i can create it?01:10
geniifilo1234: Yes.01:10
filo1234genii:  ok thanks a lot :)01:11
geniifilo1234: np01:11
filo1234genii:  can i ask you another little question?01:11
geniifilo1234: Sure :)01:11
filo1234lol01:11
filo1234i have kubuntu hardy installed on eeepc 900 , on skype integrated microphone don' t run, so when i make test call on skype, i sent my voice but skype don' t capture my voice01:13
filo1234genii:  have some idea?  on alsamixer levels are all up, and on kmix too01:13
geniifilo1234: Ah, about the eeepc I do not know much. They do have a channel here, perhaps some answer is there in #eeepc01:13
filo1234ok01:14
filo1234genii:  thanks and good night  :) bye01:14
geniifilo1234: Good luck and good night01:15
filo1234:)01:15
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coreymon77anyone mind helping me with sound issues01:30
coreymon77sound isnt working, there is no other way to describe it01:30
coreymon77nothing is coming out01:30
coreymon77lspci shows that my card is detected, but no sound is coming out, and yes, my speakers are on, plugged in and sound system is turned on01:32
coreymon77anyone?01:32
Nyadhi01:33
geniicoreymon77: What does    lspci | grep Audio       tell you is the soundcard make?01:33
coreymon77its an sb live01:34
coreymon77i know that already01:34
coreymon77but that command gives no output01:35
KinneyI've just installed Firefox 3 and whenever I fill a checkbox it doesn't show as checked until I change focus to a different part of the page. Is anyone else having this problem?01:36
coreymon77genii: if this helps, heres my lspci output01:36
coreymon77genii: http://coreymon77.pastebin.ca/104970201:36
dicemanhello01:37
dicemanhow can i change my splash screen01:37
dicemanon kubuntu hardy heron01:37
dicemannobody can help me ???!!!01:37
coreymon77!patience diceman01:38
jalsok there must be some way to change the font size in dolphin's sidebar01:38
ubottucoreymon77: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:38
coreymon77!patience| diceman01:38
ubottudiceman: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:38
coreymon77genii: any ideas01:38
dicemanokay ubottu01:39
dicemani relax01:39
geniicoreymon77: Apologies on lag, roommate looking for some papers here he needs01:39
geniicoreymon77: Reading01:39
dicemanubottu: the channel is often dead here01:40
stdindiceman: and ubottu is a bot01:41
geniicoreymon77: Does       lsmod | grep emu10k              produce a result?01:41
stdin!usplash01:41
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork01:41
stdin!splash01:41
ubottuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.01:41
dicemani'm not under gnome but under kde01:42
coreymon77genii: http://coreymon77.pastebin.ca/104970401:42
geniicoreymon77: Reading01:42
dicemanthe new version01:42
stdin!splash01:43
ubottuTo change your KDE splash screen go to KMenu -> System Settings -> Splash Screen01:43
stdindiceman: ^01:43
coreymon77genii: and yes, i use pastebin so much that i got my own :P01:44
geniicoreymon77: And you are using OSS as the sound engine and not ALSA?01:44
dicemanKMenu ?01:44
dicemani don't have it01:44
coreymon77i have no clue what im using01:44
coreymon77this is a fresh install01:44
* genii hands stdin some more aspirins01:44
coreymon77i was forced to reinstall because xorg and kde borked01:45
stdindiceman: you're on KDE?01:45
dicemanyes01:45
stdindiceman: see the button with the 'K' on the panel01:45
dicemanyes01:45
stdinKMenu01:45
coreymon77genii: so, i have absolutely no clue what the settings are right now01:45
dicemanno there is not Kmenu01:46
geniicoreymon77: Kbutton...System Settings... Sound System... Hardware tab... "Select the Audio Device"   can be autodetect, ALSA, OSS and others. The drivers loaded are for OSS, so see perhaps what it's using in there01:47
stdindiceman: it IS the KMenu01:47
stdinthe menu with the K01:47
dicemanoh yes01:47
dicemanexcuse me01:47
stdin;)01:47
dicemani know now what you called the kmenu01:48
dicemani think that was a part01:48
coreymon77genii: its on autodetect01:48
coreymon77should i change that01:48
coreymon77?01:48
geniicoreymon77: Not usually.01:49
dicemanthere is no splash screen01:49
dicemani'm sure01:49
coreymon77genii: so, its still not working :P01:49
coreymon77genii: i wonder why the oss drivers are installed, wouldnt it normally be alsa?01:51
Kinneydiceman: sudo apt-get install ksplash01:51
geniicoreymon77: Normally thats what happens for me. There are also some alsa-oss bridge modules loaded sometimes too though that can be confusing.01:52
coreymon77genii: so, what do i do?01:52
stdindiceman: on kde3 or kde4?01:53
geniicoreymon77: What does     lspci -nn | grep audio                say is the vendor:device    code?01:53
coreymon77genii: 02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 [1102:0002] (rev 07)01:55
geniicoreymon77: OK. Give me a minute to look on Google01:55
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geniicoreymon77: Not much enlightenment :(01:59
coreymon77genii: maybe i should fiddle around with the hardware settings01:59
coreymon77as in, take it off autodetect02:00
dicemanstdin: i have kde 3.5.902:00
coreymon77and does it matter what is selected for midi device02:00
coreymon77?02:00
geniicoreymon77: Unfortunately I don't know much about these cards02:00
Kinneydiceman: you have to install ksplash02:01
geniicoreymon77: I did see an ancient bug reported in debian (circa 2005) regarding some load order of the drivers but not certain if this problem still exists.02:01
dicemanksplah ?02:02
coreymon77genii: so im SOL?02:02
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dicemandoes it heavy ?02:03
dicemanksplash02:03
Kinneydiceman: ksplash is the package that will add the KDE splash screen to System Settings02:03
coreymon77genii: its wierd02:04
geniicoreymon77: There's always a way to get something woking... it's just a matter of being persistent and finding the right resources. I'm not primarily a sound-system expert however02:04
dicemani have login manager in the system setting already02:04
coreymon77genii: looking in midi device, they all say ALSA device02:04
dicemanor ksplash do a different thing ?*02:04
coreymon77genii: every single one in that list says ALSA device at the end02:05
lakis1982hi ... i had windwos vista and i made a second partition and i installed kubuntu .. when i press the power button the pc starts and gives me a list so that to select which OS i want to start ... at first ita has kubuntu and then windows vista .. how can i change this to show first windows vista and then kubuntu ???02:05
coreymon77yet your saying i have the oss drivers in this02:05
Kinneydiceman: are you trying to change the login screen or the splash screen?02:05
geniicoreymon77: Perhaps change the Sound System to ALSA and restart the sound server, see if anything develops02:05
coreymon77lakis1982: you wont want to soon enough, trust us :P02:05
stdindiceman: then it should be there http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4019/splashrh2.jpg02:05
dicemanthe login screen02:06
dicemanhooo02:06
dicemansplash screen and login screen are two differents thing02:06
dicemanexcuse me for my  "noobeeing"02:06
lakis1982i just want to changgge it for my parents that use the ppc because they dont know .. anything ..they just push the button and wait the pc to start02:06
lakis1982so can i change it ?02:07
Kinneylakis1982: the order of OS's are stored in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:07
stdindiceman: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu#head-4b3b5593ae454ea8991ad90ceb81f453a0e6ab8202:07
coreymon77genii: nope, still nothing, i press test sound and nothing comes out02:07
`jasonhey02:07
`jasoni was wondering02:07
lakis1982\hold on please02:07
coreymon77`jason: so was i :P02:08
Kinneylakis1982: don't make any changes unless you know what your doing. The easiest thing is to just change the default #02:08
`jasonin ubuntu you can set your desktop effects to high medium or low02:08
lakis1982so kinney what should i do ?02:08
`jasonso how do i do that02:08
`jasonwith kubuntu02:08
lakis1982how do i change hte default?02:08
Kinneylakis1982: about 13 lines in you'll see default 0, change that to the number in the list that windows is02:09
Kinneylakis1982: than as long as they don't press anything it will automatically boot windows02:09
lakis1982im on root /boot/grub folder02:10
coreymon77genii: any other ideas?02:10
lakis1982and i see the menu.lst file02:10
geniicoreymon77: Perhaps try from konsole:     sudo modprobe -r snd-emu10k1; sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1x02:10
lakis1982and another file named default02:10
geniicoreymon77: There seems to be 2 drivers, one with the "x" at the end02:10
`jasonguys02:10
`jasonin ubuntu you can set your desktop effects to high medium or low02:10
coreymon77FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use02:10
`jasonso how do i do that02:10
`jasonwith kubuntu02:10
Kinneylakis1982: don't worry about the default file. You just want to change the default option in menu.lst02:11
geniicoreymon77: Close the mixer, then try again02:11
[Relic]how can you add something permanently to $PATH and where is that $PATH info actually stored?02:11
lakis1982so i open now the menu.lst ok ?02:11
geniicoreymon77: You can run it again by alt-f2      kmix02:11
coreymon77genii: all i have open is kmix02:11
coreymon77genii: still gives me the same error02:11
`jason?02:11
geniicoreymon77: After kmix is closed?02:12
Kinneylakis1982: yea you need to edit the file with sudo02:12
lakis1982what should i type?02:12
Tonglebeakhi, i have a question. i'm currently running gentoo, and got another hard drive that i have mounted and blah blah blah. anyways, i wanted to run the kubuntu install cd (mount -o loop) from gentoo (i can't seem to find any blank CDs), and thought i should be able to do this...but i'm not sure how to go about it. the slave hdd i installed today is where i want kubuntu to go...anyway of doing this?02:12
coreymon77genii: yup02:12
[Relic]time to check ksysguard and see if there is a process of kmix already running?02:12
Kinneylakis1982: it probably already says 0 you need to change it to the number it shows up in the list02:13
dicemanstdin: okay man i understand a lot of things02:13
dicemanthanks02:13
geniicoreymon77: And the Sound System page is also closed?02:13
coreymon77genii: just closed it, and same error02:13
dicemani talk english and change my login screen02:13
coreymon77FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use02:13
geniiHmm02:13
geniicoreymon77: Without systematically removing modules until it can unload the emu10k1 module I'm out of immedate ideas02:15
geniicoreymon77: As I said earlier I'm not primarily a sound system debugger02:15
lakis1982someone told me about grubeditor02:15
coreymon77maybe disable the sound system in prefs02:15
coreymon77?02:15
geniicoreymon77: I'm thinking if anyone can help they are probably in #alsa channel02:16
Kinneylakis1982: there are a couple grub editors in the repositories if you want to go that route02:18
coreymon77genii: arent i not using alsa though?02:19
lakis1982thanks i fixed it02:20
geniicoreymon77: When I search for the emu10k1 drivers it shows them under the alsa-driver tree, eg: /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko       on my particular box02:20
Kinneylakis1982: manually or through a GUI editor?02:20
Agent_bobfor this in `lsmod | cut -d' ' -f1 | grep snd` ;do modprobe -r $this ;done02:20
coreymon77genii: so, what does that mean for me02:21
lakis1982something else please ... can i play games of windows in linux .. i mean games like fifa , assassins creed , grand theft auto  etc ... ???02:21
geniicoreymon77: Basically that my limited knowledge of the sound system means someone else would be better equipped to assist :)02:21
lakis1982through gui editor i fixed it02:21
geniicoreymon77: If no one in this channel then likely #alsa02:22
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Kinneylakis1982: for windows applications theres Wine, Crossover Office and Cedega, Cedega is the best for gaming but it's commercial and costs money02:22
lakis1982what do u use?02:24
Kinneylakis1982: I used to use Cedega but I don't really game on the comp anymore02:24
geniilakis1982: If you're already dual-booting just keep Windows around for gaming. Many things don't run as expected under wine or cedega or so on02:25
darkdelusionsI currently use wine but do have  cedega installed02:25
darkdelusionsbut I am only currently playing wow which is supported under wine02:26
lakis1982ok02:26
Agent_bobi thought there was a linux port of wow ?02:28
flaccidblizzard would never do that02:28
darkdelusionslakis1982: You best bet is go to http://appdb.winehq.org/ and search for the game and see if its supported02:28
ybithow do you remove the ubuntu/gnome portion? i installed kubuntu-desktop and now i don't want gnome..02:28
ybitor gdm02:29
genii!purekde | ybit02:29
ubottuybit: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »02:29
ybitgenii: awesom02:30
geniiybit: np02:30
flaccid!stablevideo02:30
ubottuFactoid stablevideo not found02:30
flaccidi knew it didnt exist yet02:30
Agent_bob!puregnome02:30
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>02:30
Agent_bob!pureserver02:30
ubottuFactoid pureserver not found02:30
geniiAgent_bob: Yes, it's equal opportunity ;)02:30
Agent_bobpfft02:31
genii!purexfce02:31
ubottuFactoid purexfce not found02:31
Agent_bobhardly02:31
geniiHmm02:31
geniiYou may be right02:31
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intelikeypureserver  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d367eb6eb02:33
geniiHmm </eggface>02:35
intelikeyand for pure xfce you could just use both of the puregnome + purekde to remove them or which ever you had02:35
intelikeygenii :))02:35
geniiintelikey: Yes, true02:35
geniiintelikey: Weird. It's like you and stdin are on shiftwork or something02:35
flaccidhey intelikey shift aint finished yet stdin :p02:36
geniiPErhaps i spoke too soon02:36
lakis1982ti entoli pataw gia na sindethw ws root ?02:39
flaccidum english only here02:40
genii!gr02:40
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes02:40
lakis1982what command do i give to connect as a root ?02:40
geniilakis1982: You don't02:41
flaccid!root | lakis198202:41
ubottulakis1982: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:41
lakis1982i ahve some folders in a local disk02:42
lakis1982how do i plaec shortcuts on desktop?02:42
lakis1982how do i place their shortcuts on desktop?02:42
flaccidright click desktop and i think its shortcut to application02:43
lakis1982flaccid how ?02:44
lakis1982i dont find anything02:44
bestpvpis there a apt-get for pureftpc?02:47
flaccidlakis1982: this is kde3 ?02:47
geniilakis1982: The folders in the local disk need to be readable (at least) by your user. And it's the right-click on desktop then Create New...Link to Location. Then you put in the path to the file there or browse to it if you can02:47
flaccidyep thats it. sorry on kde4 atm..02:48
geniicoreymon77: I see they are running you ragged in #alsa ;)02:49
coreymon77genii: yup02:49
flaccidw0a, there is response in #alsa, coool...02:50
gasparincan anybody tell me how to change the icon on the Application Launcher plasmoid?02:50
gasparin:-/02:50
gasparinit changed itself... somehow... and i just want to change it back02:50
geniigasparin: Perhaps they may know in #kubuntu-kde402:50
gasparinah.. thanks genii02:50
intelikey!kde402:50
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:50
intelikeyi think that kde4 not having a right click menu for "everything" is a mistake02:52
geniiContext is good02:52
intelikeythat was the one thing that i really liked about kde302:52
intelikeybut who am i to say such things i don't even use kde# anymore02:53
flaccidisn't that because devs just aint got there yet with context menus ?02:53
intelikeyflaccid we can only hope02:53
geniiI have one that has context ... it's a cpu load monitor. But it has other weirdness02:54
flaccidthey are adding new things all the time, but its still the stability that concerns me and alot is not the plasma devs fault, its the vendors :(02:54
jhutchinsflaccid: How do you figure that?02:54
geniiLike it wants to stay on top flashing over the screensaver for instance02:54
flaccidjhutchins: watching mailing lists with bugs/issues in plasma etc. eg. video drivers like restricted02:55
flaccidso many variables in it02:55
intelikeyso have they started calling it "k4" yet ?     cause in a few years they'll make a real dog    "k9"   :)02:55
flaccidroflmao02:55
jhutchinsthat's nothing to do with kde4's stability though.  I guess it affects the 3D stuff, but it's not KDE.02:55
flaccidjhutchins: um thats what i said.... and also it does effectively make it unstable02:56
jhutchinsI can see that, ok.02:56
flaccidand its not just the 3D stuff02:56
flaccidfull kudos to the devs, its a lot of things to deal with that i didn't think about it until i looked in a bit closer02:56
* jhutchins thinks crap bloated programming might have something to do with instability, but maybe it's just the drivers.02:56
intelikeylol02:57
jhutchinsI mean, 3.5 is stable.02:57
flaccidits the drivers plus lots of other things that are over the top of my head heh02:57
geniiI'm awaiting the bright brain that makes a kde4 plasmoid wrapper for all the old kde3 applets. that will be some accomplishment02:57
jhutchinsI think it's a lot of fuss over "Oooooh, round corners!".02:58
flaccidyep thats hectic02:58
flaccidnot really, the underlying concepts are really good UI design/theory imho02:58
flaccideg. ZUI etc.02:58
intelikeywho's going to invent the push down to zome mouse ?    i mean three dee desktop needs a three dee rodent, right ?03:00
flaccidzome mouse?03:00
intelikeyyou know if you mash down on the mouse, the cursor goes deeper into the desktop03:00
intelikeyzoome away from you03:00
intelikeyzooms03:01
flaccidim confused, you talking about the ZUI ?03:01
intelikeyzoom zoom zoom03:01
intelikeysorry wrong comercial03:01
flaccidhaha03:01
intelikeyZUI i have not seen so i don't know.03:01
AlphaWolrd56Hello03:02
flaccidzooming user interface? zoom out/in03:02
brian_hi what kde program do i have available to view disk usage on kubuntu03:02
flaccidhi03:02
intelikeyi'm talking about being able to move the mouse in three dirrections not just two03:02
AlphaWolrd56Could I get some help with nvidia drivers and kubuntu?03:02
brian_i thought it was something like kdisk?03:02
Search4LancerI'm seeing a lot of talk on the forums about Firefox 3 having hit the repos. However, nobody actually bothers to mention what repo it's available in. Anyone here know?03:02
flaccidintelikey: the mouse can go in omnidirection already?03:02
genii!info firefox-3.003:03
ubottufirefox-3.0 (source: firefox-3.0): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 1038 kB, installed size 3552 kB03:03
codsterhelp03:03
intelikeyflaccid no.  it goes up/down  and left/right   needs to go in/out also03:03
codsteri ruined my install :(03:03
coreymon77Search4Lancer: download it from the site too, just to contribute to the record03:03
geniiStill rc1 apparently03:03
flaccidintelikey: right 3D, gotya03:03
codsterI went to upgrade and my PC shutdown, almost half way threw im missing some files i have remains of 8.0403:03
flaccid!info filelight | brian_03:03
ubottubrian_: filelight (source: filelight): show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 608 kB, installed size 1740 kB03:03
flaccid!info kdirstat | brian_03:04
ubottubrian_: kdirstat (source: kdirstat): graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-4 (hardy), package size 268 kB, installed size 876 kB03:04
Search4Lancerthanks genii, but that doesn't really tell me much... in the way of a repo to get it from03:04
geniiSearch4Lancer: Thats the repo: main03:04
codsteris there anyway to replace or find out where i left off in updating?03:04
codstermy PC is partially 7.04 and 8.04 combined03:04
flaccidcodster: continue the upgrade? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:04
Search4Lancerwell, odd, as I did an apt-get update and it didn't show up03:04
codsterit will still work?03:04
flaccidyep03:04
intelikeycodster you upgraded to 8.10 ?03:05
codster8.10?03:05
codsterthe newest one hardy03:05
geniiSearch4Lancer: You're using 2 currently?03:05
codsterbut im still like inbetween if you know what i mean03:05
Search4Lancergenii: yes03:05
flaccidintelikey: hmm thinking about that. just a note to say you should design such a mouse and make a lot of money..03:05
codsteri got remains of 7.04 still,03:05
Search4Lancer2.0.0.103:05
brian_thanks flaccid03:05
flaccidnp03:06
codsterE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. i remember reading this03:06
codsterim not sure but i remember you can fix that03:06
codsterwith killing Adept?03:06
intelikeythat is 8.4  so what's this? " missing some files i have remains of 8.04"   never mind i caught up with what you were trying to say.03:06
flaccidpretty much follow what apt says codster03:06
codsterokay03:06
codstersudo... dpkg?03:06
geniiSearch4Lancer: What kubuntu are you on, Hardy?03:06
codsteror just that one command03:06
flaccidcodster: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:06
intelikeysudo apt-get install -f03:07
intelikeyprolly needs -f first.03:07
codsterwell what am i to do?03:07
flaccidand do the command intelikey says if it suggests03:07
codsterokay03:07
Search4Lancergenii: bad question to ask me - I lose track every time, and have no idea how to check. I believe I'm on the most recent, though03:07
codsterone second03:07
flaccidum follow that ^^ hehe03:07
intelikeySearch4Lancer lsb_release -r03:08
codsterdpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0198'03:08
codsterthats what it gives me?03:08
flaccidcodster: from what command?03:08
Search4Lanceryee, thanks intelikey, 7.1003:08
codsterdpkg --configure -a03:08
intelikeysudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/019803:09
intelikeyit's a partial file03:09
flaccidnot really what i suggested. [12:06] <flaccid> codster: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | then follow what apt says03:09
genii!info firefox-3.0 gutsy03:09
ubottuPackage firefox-3.0 does not exist in gutsy03:09
codsterokay03:09
geniiSearch4Lancer: Doesn't exist for 7.1003:09
flaccidintelikey: is that partial file the list of updates or like from the upgrade when it broke?03:09
codsterwell thats what konsole said to do.03:09
codsteryou mean i have to go threw that again?03:10
codster:(03:10
codsterits still brinning up the DPKG when running thoes update commands03:10
flaccidum its a corrupt file because its wasnt finished downloading or whatever when you did the upgrade before03:10
flaccidcodster: pastebin the whole output03:10
codsterokay03:10
intelikeyflaccid can't say for sure but probably the file being downloaded when the power went off,  that's my first guess on it anyway03:10
flaccidintelikey: ok coolio thanks for info03:11
Search4Lancergenii: fine and well, didn't realize I wasn't on the latest release.... not sure why I'm not, though, but I do see the Full Upgrade button in Adept is enabled. Explains much.03:11
greeghi03:11
greeghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmADPVEqU403:11
flaccidops greeg has been spamming channels all day, ban please03:11
geniiSearch4Lancer: np03:11
codsterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/21027/03:11
flaccidcodster: and now run sudo dpkg --configure -a and let us know the output in pastebin03:12
codsterokay03:13
flaccidalso a good idea to do just straight paste including copying the command you ran and the prompt. (it can't copy the password)03:13
codsterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/21028/03:13
codsteri know03:13
codsterlol03:13
codsterits just the last one i had thoes list of updates03:14
codsterdidnt wanna take up space and time.03:14
flaccid!enter | codster03:14
ubottucodster: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:14
codstersorry03:14
intelikeysudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/019803:14
flaccidcodster: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0199 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:14
codsterokay and that will pickup to where i left off?03:15
flaccidlets see..03:15
intelikeyhe'll have to  sudo dpkg --configure -a  first, before apt will run correctly03:15
ivan_hello, i installe my kubuntu and now i cant open windows where i have very important files what can i do>???03:15
codsterwhen i do that it does not ask me for a pass03:15
codsterit just sets in a new line03:15
flaccidsudo keeps pass for a period of time so you don't have to re-enter03:15
codsterokay lol,03:15
flaccidivan_: whats the error03:16
flaccidsudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0199 && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:16
flaccidintelikey: is it ok to remove /var/lib/dpkg/updates/* ?03:16
ivan_flaccid, i dont know it sends me to a sytem recovery thing and i cant fix it anyway03:16
intelikeyivan_ "cant open windows" ???   you mean windows won't boot ?03:17
flaccidivan_: need more information03:17
codsterwow, its giving me one file after the other "099/0200" etc.etc now im @ 020103:17
codsteri have to correct all of them i guess?03:17
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flaccidum codster sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/*03:18
flaccidi assume so03:18
ivan_intelikey, yes it wont boot it srend me to a system recovery thing where i try to recover my windows and simply i cant recover it, all the options they gicve me wont work03:18
codstercannot remove its a directory03:18
bestpvpis there a apt-get for pureftpc?03:18
bestpvppureftpd03:18
intelikeycodster you left off the * at the end03:18
codsterohh03:19
codsterlol03:19
flaccidbestpvp: its in the repos03:19
codsterokay that is done,03:19
flaccidi think my command was ok :o03:19
codsternow from the top?03:19
codstersudo dpkg03:19
flaccidivan_: microsoft windows?03:19
ivan_flaccid, yes03:19
flaccidivan_: windows support in ##windows not here03:19
codsterhehehe thanks flaccid03:19
codsterand intelikey03:19
flaccidnp. intelikey is the man here..03:19
intelikeyivan_ first boot linux   and try to mount the ntfs file system so you can save your "important files" to the linux system   then work on trying to get windows working.03:20
codsteri known him befor, i was @ Kubuntu channel as Elite10103:20
ivan_intelikey, i dont care about windows i just want to have my curriculum, how do i mount the ntfs system to my linux??03:20
intelikeyivan_ is linux running now ?03:21
codsterlol its just funny i have a Half and Half OS right now, of 2 diffrent versions. althou i was running into some problems with Adept03:21
ivan_intelikey, yes03:21
flaccidivan_: disks and filesystems in system settings and click enable on the windows fs03:21
intelikeyivan_ do you know how to use a "pastebin" ?03:21
ivan_intelikey, yes03:22
intelikeyflaccid it's unlikely it will be clean   so probably wont mount without force03:22
flaccidintelikey: ah in those cases you need to get windows to scan it? is there a scan yet in linux ?03:22
intelikeyivan_ you can try what flaccid said.   if it fails pastebin the output of    cat /proc/partitions     for me please.03:22
intelikeyflaccid he can't get windows to do anything.  that's the problem.03:23
flacciddoesn't sound like hes tried to mount it yet in linux but03:23
intelikeycorrect.03:24
ivan_intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21029/03:24
ivan_flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21029/03:24
intelikeybut he has tried to recover it from the windows repair console...03:24
flaccidyeah but didn't really know the problem there03:24
flaccidhow do you force mount anyway in these conditions?03:25
codsterWhen my windows went bad, i just poped in the CD and i hit R for repair, it looks as if it was re-installing, but all it did was clean the Files and replaced them03:25
intelikeyivan_ type in a konsole    df -h     and pastebin the output03:25
codsterit ran perfectly after that!03:25
flacciddepends what the *actual* problem is03:26
codsterall my Files/Docuements program etc,etc where all in tacked, as if nothing had happend03:26
flaccidcodster: yeah user doesn't want windows anymore anyway03:26
codsterohh03:26
codsterokay i see,03:26
ivan_flaccid, howintelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21030/03:27
ivan_flaccid, sorry how do you suggets i mount them??03:27
ivan_intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21030/03:27
flaccidivan_: is it this one? /dev/sda1             108G  103G  4.5G  96% /media/disk03:27
ivan_flaccid, yes03:28
intelikeyivan_ ls /media/disk   and see what is there ?03:28
flaccidivan_: its mounted and files are in /media/disk ..03:28
codsteronce i update to 8.4, then i can finnally get my Mac OSX theme. all spiffy and nice :D03:28
intelikeyivan_ that is lower case L   ls /media/disk03:28
flaccidcodster: what kind of theme?03:28
codsterum03:29
codsternot sure yet03:29
codsterIve seen some on Youtube that look pretty promising,03:29
ivan_intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21032/03:29
flaccidfair enough03:29
flaccidivan_: so you can copy your files out of there if you like...03:29
ivan_intelitek, how do i acces that??03:29
codsterIll just try some out, if not i will get a Windows Vista, Aero without the bloatware :D03:29
intelikeyivan_ ok.   use konqueror  and go get your files from /media/disk/03:30
flaccidivan_: /media/disk in address bar in konqueror or dolphin for example03:30
ivan_wait i messed it up03:30
intelikeyflaccid he's not got any place to put them.03:31
intelikeyrevisit the df output03:31
ivan_intelitek, omg i did the most stupid thing on earth im doing this on my stable comp all the codes i gave are not the correct ones, let me pabstein the real ones03:31
intelikeyor then again....03:32
javierintelitek, im ivan03:32
* intelikey headdesk03:32
brian_is it difficult to have kde 3 and 4 on the machine at the same time03:32
flacciddepends what he needs and if he ivan_ had somewhere to put them like a dvd burner for eg.03:32
brian_any docs on this?03:32
brian_looks like i need a backport03:32
flaccidbrian_: they are separate03:32
flaccid!kde4 | brian_03:33
ubottubrian_: KDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:33
intelikeyjavier ok.  pastebin the output of#   df -h ;cat /proc/partitions ;sudo fdisk -l03:34
javierintelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21034/03:35
intelikeyno fdisk -l   in that03:36
javierintelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21035/03:36
flaccid2x ntfs hmm03:37
geniijavier: You should probably add a letter or two more of his name before hitting the Tab key03:37
intelikeyjavier ok.  were your files on   c:   or d:  ?03:37
javierintelitek, c:03:38
javiergenii, what u mean??03:38
intelikeyjavier ok.    try this.    sudo mount -sr /dev/sda1 /mnt03:39
geniijavier: intelitek <> intelikey03:39
codsterthank youuu!!! its almost doneee!! lol03:40
codsteri will be running ful 8.403:40
codster:D03:40
intelikeyjavier what did it say ?03:40
javierintelitek, nothing03:40
ubuntuneed a command help03:41
intelikeyjavier good.   use konqueror and browse /mnt03:41
flaccidnice03:41
intelikeyflaccid shalom03:41
codsterwow firefox 3.0?03:41
codsterit already has it included03:41
codsternice03:41
intelikeyoh thought that was nite03:41
flaccidi can't even remember what shalom means :o03:41
intelikeypeace03:41
flaccidah yeah03:41
flaccidis that jewish or something?03:42
intelikeyyeah03:42
ubuntui need to edit the fstab lines on a live cd, to add in a 160 gb drive, so i can delete a worm.  i don't remeber the correct command though. sudo ??? "./fstab"03:42
flaccidcoolio03:42
ubuntushalom is arabic for peace03:42
coreymon77codster: still download it from mozillas site though, because apt downloads dont count towards the record count03:42
flaccidah arabic03:42
flaccidubuntu:  kdesudo /etc/fstab or use disks & filesystems in system settings03:42
intelikeyactually salem is arabic   but no mattere03:42
flaccidyeah thats what i thought03:43
coreymon77ubuntu: shalom is hebrew03:43
flaccidah well im aussie, i'll just say 'peace mate' :o03:43
codsterohh yeah!03:43
codsterthats true corey thats tomarrow! 1pm! :D03:43
flaccidspeaking of brews i;ll just grab another coffee03:43
javierintelitek, ok i browsed it now??03:43
coreymon77codster: no, it ends tomorrow at one03:43
intelikeyubuntu you dont need to edit fstab on the live CD  you can specify mount options on the command line.03:43
coreymon77codster: its on now03:43
intelikeyjavier are your files there ?03:44
coreymon77codster: download day is now, it ends tomorrow at 103:44
coreymon77codster: so download now03:44
javieri cant find document and settings03:44
ubuntucoreymon: you sure?03:44
codsterohh i did already03:44
flaccidjavier: possibly on the other ntfs fs ?03:44
codsterill download 3 more?03:44
codsterwait you guys want some? ill download for you guys too03:44
ubuntuintelikey: ok, it's been along time sense i last used linux. baby steps please and thanks03:45
javierflaccid, sda2??03:45
coreymon77codster: dont03:45
intelikeyjavier ok we may have the wrong partition.  back out of /mnt in konqueror.   and run this command in the konsole#   sudo umount /mnt ;sudo mount -sr /dev/sda2 /mnt03:45
coreymon77codster: it wont count03:45
Daisuke_Laptopdo *we* want some?  we get ours from the repositories (most of us i would say)03:45
coreymon77Daisuke_Laptop: that doesnt count towards the download day record count03:46
coreymon77Daisuke_Laptop: install from the repos, but atleast download from the site once03:46
intelikeyubuntu ok.   man mount   look at the file system specific options    and then use the   -o switch to add the ones you want.03:46
javierintelitek, there is a folder called lost+found , but it says i cant acces it03:47
pauljohnI'm running 4.1 beta on Ubuntu Hardy. Works OK.  I  have a question about using compiz.03:47
intelikeyjavier you have formated the partition to ext2/303:47
flaccidpauljohn: #kubuntu-kde4 please03:47
intelikeyjavier or possably rieserfs.  either way it's no longer ntfs on sda203:48
pauljohnOK,bye!03:48
javierintelitek, and all the files are lost??03:48
intelikeyjavier yep.03:48
javierintelitek, nothing i can possibly do??03:48
flaccidyou could employ a data recovery specialist or buy some data recovery software03:49
intelikeyjavier if there not on the other partition,   as an amiture.   only one thing.  pay a professional   and hope.03:49
flaccidand either way its expensive as03:49
codsterjavier, its intelikey, this is so he can see your red text03:49
javierintelikey, no recovery software in linux, i need that curriculum for tomorrow morning03:50
intelikeyjavier lets look one more time on the other fs.  back konqueror out of there.     sudo umount /mnt  ;sudo mount -sr /dev/sda1 /mnt      and look again.03:50
flaccidjavier: i think you are out of options.03:51
flaccidyeah double check thats its not on those filesystems first /me does a backup ; excuse the pun03:51
intelikeyjavier there is recovery software but the thing is that you have "over writen" things already.  the ext2fs makes superblocks ever so often from one end of the fs to the other.03:51
ubuntuintelikey: ok, i read the -t options, and i am lost.  its a nfs(that ntfs, or windows vis-ugh-ta, right?) so i just use the line(w/o quotes) "mount -t nfs"?03:54
* Daisuke_Laptop pokes intelitek03:54
javierintelikey, i can give it a try03:54
flaccidit can probably do it with no switches ubuntu03:54
intelikeynow ubuntu i'll post you an example or two.     sudo mount -o umask=0,rw /dev/hdd3 /mnt -t vfat      or    sudo mount -o uid=1001,gid=0 -t affs /dev/hdb1 /mnt03:54
flaccidi find it easier to add to fstab and then just mount -a or mount /media/mountpoint ..03:55
flaccidstill i think ntfs can just do sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 for example03:55
javierintelikey how can i send you an image of how sda1 works, and wen i start windows vista the loader in the bottom do work but then it goes to that recovery thing03:56
ubuntuintelikey flaccid: all i'm looking for is a one time mount, on sda1.  i try to automount it, and it doesn't cyting an error in fstab.03:56
intelikeyubuntu   usdo mount -t ntfs -o fmask=111,dmask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt03:56
ubuntuintelikey: thnks(the first parts spelled wrong i'm assuming03:57
flaccidubuntu: thats what we advised :)03:57
flaccid!ntfs | ubuntu if you want some docs on it as well03:58
ubottuubuntu if you want some docs on it as well: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE03:58
intelikeyjavier it does that because the boot fs (C:) is there but the data fs (D:) is now gone and it can't find your user documents settings03:58
intelikeyubuntu yes typo03:58
javierintelikey what recovery program i need??03:58
ubuntuintelikey: uh-oh. heres where the fun begins.  mount returned wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1...03:59
intelikeyjavier  you can try "testdisk"  in your linux system   but i'm doubtful that you will have much luck with an fs that is over writen.  i never did.03:59
flaccidjavier: easy recovery professional is one of the best, is commercial and expensive04:00
intelikeyubuntu pastebin the output of    sudo fdisk -l04:00
flaccidubuntu: this is why disks & filesystems is easier with one click :)04:00
javierintelikey, how do i get testdisk04:02
intelikeyjavier the lesson that comes from all this is simple.  "there is no substitute for keeping backups"04:02
intelikeyjavier sudo apt-get install testdisk04:02
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javierintelikey yup04:02
xiadenhttp://pastebin.com/m81b9e98 intelikey04:02
javierintelikey, couldnt find the package04:02
xiadenflaccid: whatcha mean?04:03
flaccidxiaden: about what04:03
intelikey-:- SignOff root: #kubuntu (Nick collision from services.)04:03
intelikey<flaccid> ubuntu: this is why disks & filesystems is easier with one click :)04:04
intelikeytimed that just right...04:04
intelikeyjavier hmmm.04:04
intelikey!info testdisk04:04
xiadenflaccid ubuntu: this is why disks & filesystems is easier with one click :)04:04
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.8-1 (hardy), package size 690 kB, installed size 2640 kB04:04
flaccidoh nick changed. yeah um the gui can do it for you.04:04
intelikeyjavier it's in the universe repo04:04
flaccidyeah my first reponse to your question xiaden [12:42] <flaccid> ubuntu:  kdesudo /etc/fstab or use disks & filesystems in system settings04:05
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flaccidshould just be able to click on enable on the filesystem in there04:06
xiadenoh. looking that up right now =:P04:06
codsteri see compiz-KDE but not fusion?04:06
codsteris taht the window manager i should get for KDE?04:06
flaccidcodster: what are you trying to achieve?04:06
codsterMac OSX theme :P04:07
flaccidnot sure what this has to do with themes04:07
intelikeyxiaden    file /dev/sda104:07
codsterthats what you need is Compiz for themes?04:07
codsteri also have emerald too,04:08
flaccidcodster: you don't need anything for themes. still depends what kind of theme04:08
xiadenintelikey: /dev/sda1: block special (8/1)04:08
codsterohh04:08
codsteri see,04:08
xiadenflaccid: the dis and filesystem doesn't give me an enable option when i clikc on the HD partition.04:08
intelikeyxiaden    file -s /dev/sda1    sorry.04:08
mike-kubuntunomatter what i do i can't get kaffiene to notice that libdvdcss2 is installed on my system04:08
flaccidxiaden: go into administrator mode or run it under kdesudo systemsettings04:08
flaccidmike-kubuntu: ubuntu release?04:09
xiadenflaccid: i am04:09
xiadenintelikey: /dev/sda1: writable, no read permission04:09
flaccidxiaden: sounds like a bug :(04:09
mike-kubuntufaccid: 8.0404:09
xiaden=P vistas a b*04:09
intelikeyflaccid no it sounds like the fs is hosed.  look at his output of file04:09
flaccidxiaden: its a button below that says enable. i wouldn't mind having a look at a screenshot if you can provide04:09
flaccidoh yeah04:10
intelikeyxiaden one more time just to make sure.    sudo file -s /dev/sda104:10
xiadenumm. can't save it =P04:10
flaccidintelikey: actually, why do you say that?04:10
intelikeywait.04:10
flaccidlooks fine?04:10
xiadenintelikey: /dev/sda1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80)04:10
flaccidxiaden: why can't save?04:10
intelikeyok that's better.04:11
xiadenno place to save... i'll try04:11
flaccidwhat command was that from?04:11
xiaden=P nvm04:11
flaccidah i see, need sudo for the extra info04:11
intelikeyflaccid it's just wierd permissions   user can write but not read to the device   that's bad   but not the issue.04:11
flaccidi think i have the same perms on these things on my system04:12
flaccidxiaden: pastebin output of sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda104:12
mike-kubuntugrr, this has happened before as well04:12
intelikeyi can't imagine it.  any user could wipe out the entire fs without root clearance....    yuch04:12
mike-kubuntubefore i solved it with a simple dpkg-reconfigue kaffeine04:12
mike-kubuntubut that doesn't seem to do the trick this time04:12
flaccidmike-kubuntu: need a dif package04:12
flaccid!info libdvdread3 | mike-kubuntu04:13
ubottumike-kubuntu: libdvdread3 (source: libdvdread): library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-8ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 57 kB, installed size 196 kB04:13
intelikeyno device should ever need world writability04:13
intelikeywithout readability anyway04:13
flaccidintelikey: must of missed the message on those perms. what was the octals on it?04:14
mike-kubuntuflaccid: i'm using the one from the medibuntu repo's, i've tried replacing it with the one mentioned in the error box, libdvdreade3 is already installed and the newest version04:14
flaccidnot sure the problem then04:14
javierintelikey, i found my file on a music cd i burned, i dont know how it got there04:14
intelikeyflaccid   <xiaden> intelikey: /dev/sda1: writable, no read permission04:14
flaccidcheck bugs mike-kubuntu04:14
bestpvphow do i update gnome compression manager to where it will support rar files?04:14
flaccidintelikey: thats normal from what i can see04:14
flaccidi have that as well04:15
flaccidflaccid@lister:~$ ls -l /dev/sda104:15
intelikeyflaccid that's a security hole.04:15
flaccidbrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-06-18 20:45 /dev/sda104:15
xiadenintelikey: lol, don't have to paistebin. no outputs O_o04:15
flaccidoops sorry about the flood!04:15
flaccidxiaden: it mounted then goto /media/sda104:15
flaccidie. xiaden check mount | grep sda104:16
intelikeyflaccid  "brw-rw----" that permission would not be "writable, no read permission"   that would either be "can read can write" or "no access"   depending on the user/group04:17
javierintelikey, now that im partially safe i can yo help me with some other problems04:17
intelikeyjavier i'll try.04:17
coreymon77alright guys, question04:18
bestpvpthere a good archive manager for ubuntu?04:18
coreymon77my ipod is a mac formatted hfs+ file system ipod04:18
xiaden=P mk04:18
flaccidintelikey: well it just must be a basic summary with file -s /dev/sda1 which returns on mine: /dev/sda1: writable, no read permission04:18
coreymon77until my mac comes back from repairs, i want to be able to add stuff to my ipod in kubuntu04:18
xiadennow i just need to change the permissions... i know my vista info... is it doable? (intelikey flaccid)04:19
mike-kubuntuflaccid: i see it mentioned but no solutions, only see it outright mentioned in a bug report under bug 103173 thats actually about totem-xine not kaffeine04:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 103173 in totem "[totem-xine] DVD will not play" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10317304:19
coreymon77all the ipod managers ive tried give me the error that my ipod is mounted as a read only file system04:19
intelikeyflaccid hmmm odd.04:19
flaccidbestpvp: ark04:19
coreymon77linux has gotta be able to write to hfs+ somehow04:19
coreymon77how can i do this?04:19
flaccidxiaden: thats why you put it in fstab as per the link before from !ntfs04:19
intelikeymy user gets  /dev/hda: x86 boot sector, LInux i386 boot LOader   but i dont use partitions04:20
bestpvpcan i apt-get it?04:20
flaccidmike-kubuntu: could be related, but i would encourage submitting another one and see what they do about it. a lot of people have reported this one04:20
javierintelikey, my screen is reduces, i dont know how to explain but my bottom pannel is shorter than the screen and is lifte from the bottom of the screen04:20
mike-kubuntuflaccid: k04:21
flaccidcoreymon77: lots on google04:21
intelikeyxiaden you can change permissions on the fly  yes.   sorry i was sidetracked.    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mountpoint    <<< translate mountpoint04:21
moosahHi I have a Gateway C140XL with ATI mobility radeon 2300 HD and I was trying to install Kubuntu KDE4 remix and the CD loads and everything... it even shows me the text right before it tries to start X but then nothing happens.. what could be wrong and how do I fix it?04:21
xiadenflaccid: i get bashed trying kdesudo command04:21
xiadenerr sorry04:22
flaccidbashed?04:22
xiadenflaccid04:22
intelikeyjavier is that a laptop ?04:22
xiadenflaccid: i get a bash error doing that kdesudo "/etc/fstab" my box got moved up a little =P04:22
flaccidmoosah: most likely video driver problem with that card. you can try the safe graphics mode, alternate cd or even changing xorg.conf on the fly04:23
intelikeyjust remount it xiaden04:23
codsterI have a Mac OSX theme with multiple folders it says GTk2.004:23
flaccidxiaden: if there is an error, don't tell us you have an error, just tell the error04:23
intelikeyxiaden you can change permissions on the fly  yes.   sorry i was sidetracked.    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mountpoint    <<< translate mountpoint    {repost}04:23
codsterhow to i add them into the theme manager so i can have all the neat things?04:23
moosahflaccid, where can I readup on those options?04:23
flaccidcodster: gtk is gnome not kde04:23
codsterwell on KDE04:23
codsterit has a GTK thing.04:23
flaccid!alternate | moosah04:24
ubottumoosah: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent04:24
codsterGtK stills and fonts04:24
codsterstyles04:24
intelikeyjavier ?04:24
flaccidmoosah: safe graphics mode is from the menu on boot and the last one is quite manual...04:24
flaccidcodster: yes but not 'GTK themes'04:24
codsterbut its for KDE thou04:24
flaccidwhich are usually metatcity or some other thing04:24
flaccidum, link?04:25
xiadenintelikey: translate? to dev/sda1 ight? that doesn't change the permissions at all.04:25
codsterohh metacity04:25
codsteri dont have a link but it has that too04:25
codsterin another folder,04:25
xiadenintelikey: wait, acutally, it made them forbidden to all but owner, and owner can read only =P04:25
apollo2011I have just setup a webserer on 8.04 that hosts Clutch. I can access it perfectly on my LAN, but I cannot access it using my external IP Address. I have set up apache serers before and accessed them externally, just not with this new 2wire router I have. The port forwarding seems to be set up right, but its not working. Is it possible the default settings on apache are bloking the connections from the external ip address04:25
intelikeyxiaden no to the place where you have /dev/sda1 mounted already04:25
flaccidi don't know what you are trying to install. still its best to read the doco it comes with codster04:25
moosahflaccid, thanks!  I'll go try that04:25
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xiadenintelikey: so /media/sda1 =P04:26
intelikeyxiaden like /mnt  or /media/disk  or something like that where the fs is mounted    the mountpoint04:26
flaccidapollo2011: you need check out the Allow directive in your apache configuration (at least)04:26
intelikeyxiaden yes04:26
codsteri dont understand ther eis nothing to read04:26
codsterits just a folder with files04:26
flaccidcodster: where did you get this folder with files, and there should be doco in at least 1 of the files otherwise the devs suck..04:26
xiadenintelikey: i still don't have access permissions.04:27
codsterkde-loog04:27
flaccideg. README or INSTALL04:27
codsterlook04:27
codsternothing04:27
flaccidcodster: if its on kde-look then there is a link04:27
intelikeyxiaden do:   mount | grep sda104:27
intelikeyand show me.04:27
intelikeyit04:27
codsterone second04:27
intelikeyto me.04:28
xiadenintelikey:  /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,umask=000)04:28
intelikeyand you don't have permission to that ?   non-sense04:28
intelikeyxiaden how are you trying to access it ?04:28
flaccidxiaden: can you pastebin ls -l /media/sda1 ?04:28
intelikeyflaccid you want the file in /media/sda1 ?    if not add -d04:29
codsterhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/mac+theme?content=8013504:29
codsterright there04:29
flaccidintelikey: not sure what you mean04:29
codsterwhich one outta these could i use? http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php04:29
intelikeyls -ld /media/sda104:30
codsterthese terms are confusing, Compiz Fusion/GTk im a little lost04:30
xiadenhttp://pastebin.com/d430741ff04:30
intelikeycan post that in here it will return one line04:30
flaccidintelikey: oh i wanted to look inside of the mountpoint04:30
intelikeywe didn't get too though...04:31
xiadenfirst one was perm. denied, this one's dr-x------ 1 root root 24576 2008-06-17 07:51 /media/sda104:31
flaccidcodster: ok so its a compiz theme. goto #compiz-fusion and ask how to install04:31
xiadenflaccid intelikey: first one was perm. denied, this one's dr-x------ 1 root root 24576 2008-06-17 07:51 /media/sda104:31
flaccidi forget intelikey, whats umask 000 do ?04:31
codsterwell i have another theme thats in emerald04:31
codsteri imported it but it wont let me install it? there is multiple themes there and i cant install them i tried clicking everything04:32
flaccidcodster: i guess you add it via emerald, but im not sure04:32
flaccidcodster: #compiz-fusion04:32
xiadenflaccid: it won't let me upload screenshots to photobucket =P04:32
intelikeyxiaden o.O     what about ntfs have they ******up ?    mount says it's umask=000 and that's not at all umask=00004:32
flaccidxiaden: all good. in this case i recommend adding it to fstab and using the users option for user mount04:33
intelikeyxiaden chmod 777 /media/sda104:33
intelikeysudo that   ^04:33
flaccidyou might need to unmount first ?04:33
apollo2011flaccid: would that be set in a way that could block external traffic by default? I haven't done anything to the config...04:33
xiadenintelikey: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/sda1': Read-only file system04:34
geniiYay! Launchpad is back up!04:34
xiadenstill no diff permissions =P04:34
flaccidapollo2011: its authorisation and i can't remember what the configuration is by default. its always best to check apache logs to find out why. if this is public URI, give me the link04:34
flaccidcan't change perms on ntfs04:35
intelikeyxiaden ok.   i don't know anything at all about the new "mount" command.   everything i'm used to says that your system is acting extreemly wierd.04:35
codsterno help @ compiz-fusion this kinda sucks04:35
intelikeyso i'm out.04:35
apollo2011flaccid: you can try it, my DynDNS is apollo2011.homelinux.org04:35
apollo2011if it works, it would give the normal apache index.htm saying "It Works!"04:35
flaccidcodster: google how to install a compiz theme...04:36
codsteri tried everything like that04:36
apollo2011so far I just get it sitting there until it times out04:36
codsterbut it only brings me to forums that are empty04:36
flaccidmaybe its not for compiz fusion04:36
codsteror just random themse04:36
codsterits not04:36
codsterits for emerald04:36
xiadenmk04:36
xiadenwell, back to the drawing boards =P04:36
schmittyi was making some changes and now all inactive windows fade transparent which i don't want. I can't where to correct this. Does anyone know how? Is there maybe a way that i can reset everything?04:36
flaccidxiaden intelikey, this is the options you need   rw,fmask=0111,dmask=000004:37
intelikeyflaccid what the hell is going on with his mount of /dev/sda1 ?   mount reports >>> <xiaden> intelikey:  /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,umask=000) <<<  and ls reports that mount is lying the perms are really umask=177  and it's mounted ro   ?04:37
flaccidintelikey: as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . i think the problem is ntfs takes different masks to normal..04:37
codstereverytime i search its always Ubuntu and not Kubuntu04:37
intelikeyflaccid umask should set both f and d the same  no ?04:37
flaccidintelikey: not sure, not my forte..04:38
xiadenflaccid, intelikey04:39
intelikeyxiaden lets try one more command going on what flaccid said.    sudo mount -o remount,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,rw /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -t ntfs04:39
xiadenmk =P04:39
intelikeymaybe i'll learn something....04:39
flaccidcodster: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=how+to+install+emerald+themes+compiz&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-804:39
javierintelikey, yes im using a laptop04:40
xiadenintelikey, flaccid: still a no go =[04:40
intelikeyjavier did you by any chance, in the bios settings tell it to "not streach" the display ?04:40
flaccidxiaden: did it put anything in /var/log/messages about it?04:41
javierintelikey, nope, should i restart and modify that??04:41
kalorin_has anyone figured out if you can turn off the kickoff bar iwth kde4?04:41
intelikeyjavier i had that happen one time and that was the answer.  i reset it to  "streach display" and all was well again.04:41
kalorin_I'd like to just lose it to be honest nad put some widgets on my desktop04:41
kalorin_it doesn't size well when it's on the side of the screen anywya04:41
javierintelikey, ok be back in a sec im gonna try it04:41
flaccidxiaden: my laste suggestion is put it in fstab and then add users option then change the mountpoint to be owned by you and chmod 777 it then mount it (with the options i added just then as well)04:41
flaccidkalorin_: #kubuntu-kde404:42
kalorin_k tahnks04:42
codsterthey are having the same problem i am having when u import it it wont install the theme04:42
xiadenflaccid: no message.04:42
flaccidno message?04:42
xiadenflaccid: last messages out of messages are:04:43
flaccidcodster: sounds like a bug then04:43
intelikeyhistoricly you can do anything with mount on the command line that you can do in the fstab and a few things more... but xiaden's system is not following historic behaviour04:43
xiadenhttp://pastebin.com/d77ea9dc604:43
flaccidgotya04:43
codsterthis doesnt happen to do with the fact i upgraded?04:43
codsteri have compiz but icant see it04:44
flaccidcodster: i don't see how. i mean compiz-fusion/emerald are not part of kubuntu anyway. you have to take this up with them..04:44
xcessflaccid, Alright so the safe mode worked and I got into the KDM04:44
flaccid!compiz-fusion | codster04:44
ubottucodster: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:44
flaccidxcess: cool04:44
intelikeyxiaden however.  you can use  "kdesu konqueror "   and access it anyway     (i hope)04:44
xcessbut my wireless card or any other hardware doesnt work...04:44
codsteri installed it04:44
xiadenintelikey: interesting side note =P http://pastebin.com/d5b271a604:45
xcessflaccid, If I choose to install it, will the wireless card work?04:45
flaccid!wireless | xcess04:45
ubottuxcess: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:45
xiadenthats outof the syslog04:45
flaccidxcess: you need to check if its supported first04:45
xiadenintelikey: and delete one file off the root of the drive?04:45
flaccidxiaden: looks like intelikey could be right on the problem with the fs theory04:46
xiadenflaccid , intelikey, on kdesu konqueror i get:04:46
xiadenhttp://pastebin.com/dd2b55d504:47
intelikeyxiaden those are non-errors   it opened a konqueror window didn't it ?04:48
javierintelikey, i didnt find that option, but i dont think is that, if i move windows to the section where it is supposed to be outside the screen i can see them, and it all has a lue background04:48
xiadenintelikey: yhea, i just got into my C: *dance dance dance*04:48
xiadennow to remeber what the hell that file was called... dang.04:49
flaccidin write mode?04:49
intelikeyjavier hmmm ok.   well i'm not much on fixing xorg xrandr errors.   so i'll defer you to someone else on that. flaccid maybe.04:49
javierok thanks04:50
xiadenflaccid: idk.. one second.04:50
flaccidintelikey: hang on what happen with xiaden?04:50
javierflaccid, can you help me with a resolution problem im having??04:50
flaccidxiaden: you mounted it ro long time ago here..04:50
flaccidjavier: sure04:50
xiadenzflaccid: no04:50
flaccidhuh04:51
xiadenflaccid intelikey: i can't delete04:51
intelikeyflaccid ?  happened ?    i had him start konq as root so he would have permission.04:51
flaccidxiaden: correct. we had it mounted read-only early on here...04:51
javierflaccid, its better if i show you a screen photo i took04:51
intelikeyflaccid remounted rw tho04:51
flaccidintelikey: what made it remount rw ?04:51
intelikeyit should.   but obviously things are not "kosher"04:52
intelikeyflaccid the mount command.04:52
intelikeyi'll repost it.04:52
intelikeyxiaden lets try one more command going on what flaccid said.    sudo mount -o remount,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,rw /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -t ntfs04:52
intelikey            ^  that04:52
flaccidsorry wouldn't mind seeing ls -ld /media/sda1 now...04:52
xiadenintelikey: i'm assuming i need to close the root conqueror?04:53
schmittywhere in the kubuntu window manager can i set the transparency of inactive windows04:53
intelikeyxiaden no.  that was a repost for flaccid to look at.04:53
xiadenintelikey: ahh04:53
intelikeyit obviously isn't accepting things i'm telling it to do.04:53
schmittywhere is the kubuntu window manager config04:54
intelikeyand the "why" is probably in your pastebin04:54
xiadenflaccid intelikey: wow... i'm looking at my stuff but... ls: /media/sda: No such file or directory04:54
intelikeyhttp://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d5b271a604:54
xiadenoh wait04:54
flaccidschmitty: um im not sure if you can in kde3, the people in #kde might be able to advise04:54
flaccidxiaden: sda1 not sda04:55
intelikeysda104:55
javierflaccid, where can i show an image, where can i send it or where can i upload ig04:55
xiadenflaccid: dr-x------ 1 root root 24576 2008-06-17 07:51 /media/sda104:55
intelikeyschmitty kcontrol ?04:55
schmittyflaccid: there is a way becaise i have inadvertantly made all inactive windows transparent and i need to change the darn thing back to normal but i can't find the gui anymore04:55
intelikeyxiaden and     mount | grep sda1    ?04:56
flaccidjavier: dcc me if you have to http://tinypic.com maybe http://photobin.com04:56
flaccidhmm no write on it04:56
schmittyintelikey: thankyou i think this is where it is04:56
xiadeniintelikey flaccid: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)04:56
flaccidschmitty: i'll have another look04:56
xiadenschmitty: ctr alt?04:57
flaccidxiaden: mounted rw with those masks but not translating across in the posix perms04:57
intelikeyflaccid see that ?     mount is reporting it as accessable but the system says 'not'04:57
intelikeyi have literally never see linux do that before.04:58
intelikeyseen04:58
intelikeythat's like something windows would do   "tell windows to do blah, windows says ok i did blah.  but blah never got done..."04:59
flaccidschmitty: i think its in kcontrol - appearance and themes - window decorations, then background and overlay tabs. not sure if this is it but..04:59
flaccidintelikey: yep!04:59
schmittyk flaccid thanx04:59
flaccidintelikey: i think i've seen it before but can't remember anything04:59
intelikeyif that's what ubuntu is headed to i'm finished with it.04:59
javierflaccid, http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=instantnea2pc2.jpg04:59
xiadenintelikey: something maybe impoertant. that partition has vista which wouldn't boot on it. would the no boot flag make linux regulate it to protect the kernal?04:59
xiadenor whatever you call the flag that gets set when windows dun boot?05:00
flaccidi reckon we gotta work out why first, maybe its that invalid boot sector/messages there. i mean it could the ntfs driver, the partition or the fs hmm05:00
flaccidinitial hosed fs theory of intelikey could be best candidate atm imo05:00
intelikeyxiaden if so.  mount should report it.  it's not.   in my openion something on your system is broken/buggy   either mount or ....  ummm mount.05:01
schmittyflaccid: that did it. Cool. that transparency crap was using all my system resources. Thank you05:01
flaccidschmitty: cool, thanks i learnt something too :)05:01
xiadenflaccid: why what? why windows dun boot? thats a virus. win32/bagz sets an invalid driver in your driver bin, and then sets a mass email to people with itself in it, before the driver file ruins windows.05:02
intelikeyif i were running hardy i would be in #ubuntu raising hell about that.    if it happened where i could see what it was doing i would anyway.05:02
xiadenwell, not ruins windows, just kills the boot =P05:02
flaccidxiaden: i wouldn't go that far, but rather find out what the problem is with the fs. viruses are in userland , not the fs and part containers05:03
intelikeythey can be.05:03
flaccidwell the boot sector damaged or not imo shouldn't affect the mount05:03
Morslokfor some reason my display won't go to a higher resolution than 640x48005:03
flaccidintelikey: well boot sector virus, but the win32/bagz is userland iirc05:03
intelikeythere have been several virii that have been made for the MBR in fact05:03
flaccidas in win32/virus..05:04
intelikeyk05:04
javierflaccid, what did you think??05:04
flaccidjavier: what was your problem?05:04
flaccidjavier: its a very small pic05:04
flaccidhow do i make it big?05:04
javierflaccid let me see if i can take another pic bigger05:04
flaccidintelikey: i guess still could be mbr virus in there or at least something that affects this mounting hmm. we should contact ntfs authors05:06
MorslokI think the nvidia driver is active, but it still won't apply a higher resolution than 640x48005:06
flaccidMorslok: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please05:06
intelikeyxiaden check in #ubuntu   see if any of the "team" are around at this hour,  show them the output of    mount | grep sda1 ; ls -ld /media/sda1 ; sudo touch /media/sda1/boo05:07
intelikeyand ask why the hell your mount command is lying to you05:07
flaccidhehe!05:07
javierflaccid, http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=instantnea3tm8.jpg here is a bigger05:07
flaccidjavier: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well please05:08
intelikeyi'm serious.  i don't get p.*d over things like this very often but this one did it for me...05:08
* flaccid is sick of video issues on linux. i think it may never be decent because of vendors05:09
flaccidintelikey: i agree. i mean i don't see how it could be 'us' at all05:09
intelikeyyeah,   i don't like a machine lying to me.     tic's me off.05:10
doorknob60just got here, what u talkin about?05:10
javierflaccid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21072/05:10
intelikeybothers me far less when it just reports that it can't do what i want it to... no big deal there.  but tell me you did what i said and then let me find that it's not done..... !05:11
* flaccid pats his konversation using kfmclient newTab '%u' for web browser05:11
javierintelikey, how do i change my keyboard layout??05:11
flaccidyes, weird for linux not giving further info/error. you think something is supressing it intelikey?05:11
* intelikey is too mad to do anything productive.05:11
flacciddoorknob60: just ntfs mount problem05:11
flaccidunderstood05:11
doorknob60ok05:11
intelikeyjavier kcontrol05:11
intelikeyjavier if you mean in kde   it's in kcontrol      unless you are in kde4 then it's a system settings module05:12
doorknob60flaccid: how do you make konversation open links in new tab??05:12
Morslokflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21073/05:12
doorknob60always annoyed me05:12
intelikeyjavier or did you mean in the console ?05:12
flacciddoorknob60: just  like it said: kfmclient newTab '%u'05:13
* flaccid checks log05:13
doorknob60where do you put that though05:13
flaccidbrb05:13
javierintelikey, but from there i cant modify te layout, for instance i can put ñ (im mexican) but i cant put the arroba05:13
flacciddoorknob60: configure konversation | general05:13
doorknob60oh duh i missed that option LO05:13
doorknob60:P05:13
javierflaccid, so what is wrong with my xorg??05:13
doorknob60just noticed it after i asked05:13
flaccidgive me a sec i have to go to little boys room05:13
intelikeyjavier idk05:14
intelikeybanos05:15
flaccidjavier: pastebin your xorg.conf please05:16
flaccidand just paste in chan output of lscpi|grep VGA05:16
intelikey-su: lscpi: command not found05:16
intelikey:)05:16
* intelikey gouges flaccid typo05:17
* flaccid slaps himself05:17
flaccidta05:17
javierflaccid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21075/05:18
intelikeyjavier he meant paste the output of   lspci | grep VGA   into this channel   "expecting one line"05:18
javier00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)05:19
intelikeythere ya go  :)05:19
flaccidhey intelikey, you are intel video user?05:19
intelikeynvidia05:19
flaccidah its stdin that is an intel guy05:19
flaccid!fixresolution | javier05:20
ubottuFactoid fixresolution not found05:20
intelikeyyep05:20
intelikey!fixres05:20
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:20
flaccid!fixres | javier05:20
ubottujavier: please see above05:20
flaccidsee this is what i don't like and makes me mad intelikey. intel has the open driver and can work well. problem is that there are many resolution related problems and so frequent!05:21
intelikeyi have one intel i810  never had an issue with it tho05:22
xiadenintelikey; can you make sense of this? xiaden: The filesystem was not mounted ro but the filesystem driver is a read-only drive.05:22
geniiMy 945 works great05:22
xiadenintelikey: xiaden: Use the ntfs-3g driver.05:22
intelikeyxiaden show me     lsb_release -r05:23
flaccidi've had issues with every intel setup i've touched05:23
xiadenRelease:        6.0605:23
intelikeyoh my05:23
flaccidomg05:24
intelikeydapper.05:24
* flaccid slaps himself05:24
flacciddapper must not have the ntfs like other releases has. it could still have read only?05:24
intelikeyxiaden sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g05:24
flaccidbut its LTS, so surely they would of upgraded that05:24
Morslokany ideas what my problem could be?05:25
flaccidyep so you need ntfs-3g because dapper must not have native ntfs write support yet via its kernel or whatever05:25
intelikeyflaccid not a chance.  they put out tons of security updates and bug fixes  but nothing gets added05:25
flaccidintelikey: idoes that sound right?05:25
javierflaccid, ca you send me again the url i restarted05:25
intelikeyflaccid yes05:25
flaccidintelikey: oh. so its a good old snapshot in time. definately the problem then. no write ntfs in dapper05:25
xiadeninitelikey: no such package =P05:25
flaccidjavier: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto . im trying to work out which problem it could be..05:26
intelikey!fuse05:26
ubottuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems05:26
intelikey!info fuse dapper05:26
ubottu'dapper' is not a valid distribution05:26
intelikey!botsmack05:26
ubottuFactoid botsmack not found05:26
intelikeyubottu you are a bot !05:27
ubottuFactoid you are a bot ! not found05:27
intelikeyanyway.05:27
intelikeyxiaden sudo apt-get install fuse05:27
xiadenno such package there either =[05:27
javierflaccid, ok ok thanks05:28
* flaccid feels like an idiot now xiaden; intelikey05:29
intelikeyfuse-source is there  but you'd have to build that05:29
intelikeyflaccid i'm still pissed.   mount should not lie about it.05:30
flaccidtrue, i agree on that as well05:30
intelikeyxiaden sudo apt-get install fuse-utils05:30
intelikeysee if that helps.05:31
xiadenPackage fuse-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:31
xiadenThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:31
xiadenis only available from another source05:31
xiadenE: Package fuse-utils has no installation candidate05:31
xiadensorry for flood05:31
intelikeyare you on the live CD ?05:31
flaccidintelikey: actually thinking back now, this is what i came across a couple of years ago, then i looked it up and found out no ntfs write yet lol05:31
flaccidi was a bit of a newbie but took your point of view..05:32
intelikeyyeah   tell me you can't do that,   call me stupid for wanting to,   but do not lie to me and say you did something you didn't do...05:33
dwidmann!scoobysnack05:33
flaccidjavier: can you find anything in that doc that could help/relate to your display problem?05:33
ubottuFactoid scoobysnack not found05:33
dwidmann!scoobysnacks05:33
intelikeythat's part of why i "hate!" M$ so much.   the EULA being another major factor.05:33
ubottuI prefer botsnacks, but thanks for the thought.05:33
xiadenintelikey: erpo, xiaden, ntfs-config is the config option you'll need to use to enable write support, if that's the question (this is on hardy, previous versions are a little different)05:33
javieryup, i dont have horizsync neither vertrefresh05:34
flaccidlol05:34
flaccidxiaden: i don't think you'll get write support for ntfs in dapper05:34
javierflaccid, yup, i dont have horizsync neither vertrefresh05:34
xiadenidk if i'm running hardy =P05:35
flaccidjavier: what do you mean?05:35
intelikeyxiaden but are you using the dapper live CD ?      or is this an installed system ?05:35
flaccidxiaden: sorry, not in the kernel/native..05:35
xiadenintelikey: how do i find that.05:35
intelikeyeject the cd ?05:35
javierflaccid, im missing those lines which determine my monitor value in xorg.conf05:36
flaccidxiaden: something like this should help to get what you need http://techpark6.com/ntfs-3g-read-write-ntfs-drives-on-your-linux-box.html05:36
flaccidjavier: it shouldnt need it and this shouldnt relate to sync05:36
xiadenintelikey: it's burnt cd from about a week or two ago.05:36
doorknob60flaccid: how do you make yourself say...hard to explain, but when you said this: * flaccid feels like an idiot now xiaden; intelikey how did you do that?05:36
intelikeyflaccid if he's running the live cd he should just grab another iso05:36
javierflaccid, ok, then whats wrong??05:37
flacciddoorknob60: ?05:37
flaccidjavier: im still looking05:37
xiadendoornob60: / me05:37
intelikeyxiaden you burned a 2 year old live CD rather than the latest one......05:37
intelikeyxiaden any chance you can use a later modle cd ?05:37
xiaden... or i threw the wrong freaking cd in the drive X_X05:38
flaccidxiaden: did you do that because it said LTS ?05:38
doorknob60xiaden: meh i though i tried that :P05:38
* doorknob60 is testing the command05:38
doorknob60yay05:38
doorknob60i wat testing out on the Freenode tab of konversation so noone would see if i did something retarted, i guess it doesnt work on there lolz05:39
intelikey/exec echo $USER05:39
xiadenflaccid: you sure this is an old cd?05:40
intelikeyxiaden are you going to reboot the "right freaking cd" ?05:40
flaccidjavier: install pkg, 915resolution05:41
intelikeyxiaden yes 6.6   that's year month05:41
xiadenit's not the wrong cd. i have the mailed 7.07 over here.05:41
flaccidxiaden: dapper is woeful and old05:41
xiadenumm.05:41
xiadenwow.05:41
flaccidntfs support was immature at that stage05:41
xiaden7.0405:41
xiadenwould 7 have ntfs support?05:42
javierflaccid, ok... sudo apt-get install pkg and sudo apt-get 915resolution ??05:42
intelikeythat's a year later and "might" have ntfs-3g in it's repos.05:42
doorknob607.04 does have ntfs-3g in repos, i remember using it05:42
flaccidjavier: just sudo apt-get install 915resolution . just follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-8b0ad82432ba5f582395ffe40cfa454adaba2068 and make sure to try i810 driver as well05:42
xiadeni'll brb then =P05:42
intelikey!info ntfs-3g edgy05:42
ubottu'edgy' is not a valid distribution05:42
intelikeydumb bot.05:43
flaccidweird how ubotu does that now05:43
javierflaccid, couldnt find the package05:43
intelikeythat's not ubotu05:43
intelikeyit's his stupid sister05:43
doorknob60whats the difference intelikey?05:44
flaccidrightio05:44
intelikeya buck two ninty five05:44
flaccidjavier: read the doc ie. To install 915resolution on Ubuntu make sure that you have included the "universe" repository and type (replacing "915resolution" with "855resolution" on Breezy):05:44
intelikeywhat do you mean what's the differance ?    ubotu had a function for searching all relases   ubottu knows almost nothing.05:45
flaccidintelikey: considering intel does have a lot of issues. is there actually a video chip/driver/vendor that is good?05:45
javierflaccid, that was what i was gonna ask how do i include universe repository05:45
flaccid!repos | javier05:45
ubottujavier: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories05:45
flaccidjavier: adept manager05:45
flaccidby good i mean. one that is open driver and um works lol05:45
kenandbren1I can't enable my wireless connectio05:46
intelikeys3   but i think they went out of business in... umm 199605:46
kenandbren1can someone give me some advice05:46
intelikeyor 9805:47
intelikey!wifi | kenandbren1 i have no wifi but the bot sujests:05:47
ubottukenandbren1 i have no wifi but the bot sujests:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:47
kenandbren1i looked there and had no luck05:47
flaccidkenandbren1: so is your card supported?05:48
kenandbren1it is recognized but i can't enable the connection05:48
intelikeyflaccid next time someone says live CD   remind me to say "what decade?"   :)05:48
SiegeXdoes kubuntu have the same support for all the compiz eyecandy out of the box like ubuntu?05:48
intelikey!compiz05:49
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:49
flaccidintelikey: hehe np05:49
flaccidkenandbren1: model?05:49
SiegeXis compiz window manager independant?05:49
kenandbren1bcm431805:49
flaccidkenandbren1: how did you go with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 which is linked from the wi-fi docs?05:50
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flaccidor this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]_(Native_Driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%2905:50
flaccidcrappy urls05:51
xiadenbak05:51
xiadennow then05:51
calcmandanThis is taken straight from yahoo sports in a story about the Celtics' win over Lakers tonight: "It was a group effort by this gang in green, which bonded behind Rivers, who borrowed an African word ubuntu (pronounced Ooh-BOON-too) and roughly means “I am, because we are” in English, as the Celtics’ unifying team motto."05:52
kenandbren1thankyou flaccid05:52
flaccidkenandbren1: so i take it you didn't read the wifidocs :) the one you probably wont to follow is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:53
xiaden=[ flaccid: not even showing up now...05:53
Agent_boblooks like i have a patrol,   be back later.  wish me life!05:53
Agent_bobor luck05:53
flaccidxiaden: showing up? what sorry?05:53
xiadenthe hd icon. not there at all in /media05:54
kenandbren1just found it, thanks alot! will talk later05:54
flaccidxiaden: livecds are not persistant as a cd is read only05:54
xiadeni mean my c: doesn't show up.05:54
flaccidum you are going to have to give us more information than 'doesn't show up'05:55
flaccid!doestnwork | xiaden05:55
ubottuFactoid doestnwork not found05:55
flaccid!doesntwork05:55
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:55
xiadenflaccid: my vista permissioned hard drive? ring a bell?  twenty minutes ago?05:55
flaccidyes i do ring a bell05:56
flaccidbut 'doesn't show up' where??????05:56
xiadenin/media05:56
flaccidxiaden: like i said, livecds are not persistent.05:56
xiadendoes in qtparteed though05:56
morslokokay, i managed to fix my resolution problem on my own, but i have another problem, this one with my sound05:56
morslokmore specifically, i have no sound05:56
flaccidxiaden: so goto system settings - disks & filesystems , try enabling it there and failing that, mount it manual like we did before. i wouldn't expect it to be 'showing up' atm..05:57
flaccid!sound | morslok05:57
ubottumorslok: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:57
BadBarbarianHi all i am trying to istall from dvd and i tryed regular and video safemode i lose video in safemode and it appeares to load add drivers and than it Hangs at the kubuntu screen and the blue bar don't move and no dvd lights flashing can you help05:58
flaccid!alternate try this | BadBarbarian05:58
ubottuflaccid: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:58
flaccid!alternate | BadBarbarian try this05:59
ubottuBadBarbarian try this: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent05:59
BadBarbarianthanx05:59
flaccidnp05:59
xiadendun deal. wanta know what i did?06:00
flaccidsure06:00
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BadBarbariani have the text mode on this dvd mapbe i will try that before downloading cd06:00
flaccidah true06:02
flacciddvd gets it all then06:02
xiadendisk &filesystem, admin mode, sat a few seconds wondering why there was no enable by sda1.. then made a mount point =P running konquerer in su mode to check it's writability06:02
BadBarbariancan i get graphics later06:02
flaccidwhat, you had to create a mountpoint to enable it in the GUI there?06:02
flaccidBadBarbarian: usually06:02
BadBarbarianok06:02
BadBarbarianbbl with xchat lol06:03
xiadenflaccid: yup. probbally could have done that in dapper lol06:03
flaccidxiaden: yeah except for the write support issue, which is the issue. so you ran it in admin mode and it still required manual making of a mountpoint?06:04
xiadenmhm06:05
xiadenstill cant write...06:05
flaccidpaste the fstab line06:05
javierflaccid, it didnt work06:05
flaccidjavier: i can't find anything else to try, instead of using the vesa driver which won't be as good06:06
xiadenflaccid: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 006:06
flaccidxiaden: ok add the other options ie. the masks to try to get write support, even thought i don't think you need to. which version is this cd?06:08
xiaden7.0406:09
xiadeni need the lines again...06:09
flaccid!ntfs | xiaden06:09
ubottuxiaden: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE06:09
flaccidi don't know if 7.04 gives you writeable, i can't say...06:09
flaccidi gtg out06:09
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MorslokOkay, so i need to know what my soundcard's driver is called so i can install it but I have no clue.06:20
Morslok00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)06:21
Morslok        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 824906:21
Morslok        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 1806:21
Morslok        Memory at fe024000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]06:21
Morslok        Capabilities: <access denied>06:21
Morslokbut i don't know where to look to find the drivers06:22
mjbrooksI did an update this morning before I ran out the door, it pulled in the 2.6.24-19 kernel and new nvidia drivers and now I can't log in to xorg... I get the kdm screen adn I can log on in a terminal, but I just keep getting kicked back to the kdm login screen now... anyone have any thoughts?06:34
coreymon77and firefox 3 just hit 4 mil!!!06:37
marctesting06:43
javierflaccid, what can i do, i dont want desktop effects i just want to use kubuntu in all the screen, will vesa fix this??06:44
xiaden=P06:46
xiadenwoo!06:46
xiadenhi06:46
xiadeni'ma leave now06:47
morslokWhenever I try to change something in adept now I get an error that says "could not commit changes"06:49
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EldaFor some reason, I am having troubles getting gecko to install :(06:51
EldaIs there any way to get it to install via the package manager?06:51
EldaAs doing wine iexplore will not bring up the text box for it, and wine-doors plain sucks06:51
moshehi, is there a way to configure kio ftp, like maximum number of connections?07:13
Eldaoh well... night all \o/07:14
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SaraSmith.07:30
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SaraSmithmy husband's new computer is seeing no nic card, it says it sees firewire.. what's that?07:32
sandro_ciao07:41
flaccidjavier: did you try the vesa driver?07:49
flaccidSaraSmith: maybe the card is not supported. firewire is a network interface technically which is protocol similar to usb07:49
needhelphi i've installed windows and kunbutu on my macbook.. was able to boot up using refit.. however now refit only detects windows and osx because i messed with grub07:54
flaccidwhat is refit?07:54
needhelpi followed the instructions to reinstall grub by booting into kubuntu cd and chroot in, and type update-grub07:54
needhelpbut still fail~~~07:54
needhelprefit is a bootloader for macbook :<07:54
needhelpok the point is i want to reinstall grub or lilo using kubuntu cd..07:55
flaccidand get rid of refit?07:55
needhelpso what i did was..boot in cd.. mount /dev/sda3 /mnt .. chroot /mnt07:55
needhelpupdate-grub07:55
needhelpwithout refit i think i can't choose which os to boot ;p..it was working fine..when i choose windows using refit, it will still go into grub menu and choose windows07:56
flaccidso what happens on boot now, needhelp?07:56
flaccidits recommended to only use one bootloader07:56
needhelphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567206 <-- exactly the first problem this guy had07:57
needhelprefit is not really a bootloader.. its a EFI boot menu..not sure how to explain it! :P07:57
flaccidneedhelp: this is how you reinstall grub, not update it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-4c7a8640a439568ee312c9f262cc1099634f25ef07:57
flaccidyou can also run grub-install like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d307:59
SaraSmith"the default insatallation is suitable for most desktop or laptop systems. press F1 for hel and advanced installation options. To install only the base syste, type 'server' then ENTER. For the default installation, prss ENTER. boot:07:59
flaccidneedhelp: as for refit, i can't support that sorry, but ##mac probably does08:00
flaccidSaraSmith: question?08:00
needhelpright i'll reinstall grub now08:01
KugelFischwhats different between the hardy one and the kde mix?08:13
RYCOhello?08:15
RYCOfirst time on irc lol\08:15
flaccid!hi08:15
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:15
flaccidKugelFisch: kde3 and kde408:16
KugelFischWhat sould i use? (I'm testing linux the first time)08:17
flaccidKugelFisch: kde3 as its stable, so you won't get annoyed and its still the popular one08:17
flaccidKugelFisch: so http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest and you only need the CD from your closest mirror08:18
KugelFischyepp thx08:18
flaccidnp08:19
helpywhen i start kubuntu i get alot of options to run kubuntu in recovery mode08:20
helpyabout 4 of them08:20
helpywhats that ?08:20
clau30!firefox08:20
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:20
flaccid!recovery | helpy can't remember what the mode exactly is..08:20
ubottuhelpy can't remember what the mode exactly is..: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"08:20
flaccidnot sure why you have 4 options08:21
helpythats what i am trying to figure out08:21
helpyi dont have CD, i am dual booting with wubi08:21
helpyhow do i rescue with wubi ?08:21
flaccidi don't know sorry never used it08:24
flaccidanyone here can help with wubi?08:24
SaraSmith"the default insatallation is suitable for most desktop or laptop systems. press F1 for hel and advanced installation options. To install only the base syste, type 'server' then ENTER. For the default installation, prss ENTER. boot:_" i'm assuming this means it's seeing the cd drive :) .. BUT what i need to do is put hardy on the SATA drive and get it to see the internet.. HOW?08:24
flaccidpress enter SaraSmith08:25
flaccidit will boot into a desktop which you can use or install kubuntu on to your hard disk08:27
helpyflaccid:  what is a good dictionary for ubuntu ?08:34
helpyi used a dictionary in windows that could show the meanings of the word by clickin a combination of keys anywhere08:35
flaccidno idea, try google :)08:40
llutzMoin08:55
Dragonathwhat the hell is console-kit-dae and why is there 61 copies of it running?08:55
flacciddid you try google, Dragonath?08:57
flaccidhmm not much on it and no man page08:58
Dragonathyup08:59
Dragonathwell I guess nothing bad would happen if I just killed them all08:59
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flaccidactually its console-kit-daemon08:59
Dragonathyup08:59
flaccidsee first google result..09:00
DragonathI don't think there needs to be 61 of them09:00
flaccidcorrect, see first google result. people complained of the same thing and there is a bug report etc..09:01
DishivlatavishAnyone play one of those old loki games on 64-bit ubuntu?09:01
Dragonathahh it seems they don't hurt anything either09:01
Dragonathactually I am having problems with something keeping my sound card busy09:02
Dragonathyet there is no sound coming out of the speakers09:02
Dragonathso I went to check the processes09:02
Dragonathcan't find anything there though09:03
Dragonathand amarok says xine is unable to initialize sound drivers09:03
needhelpflaccid: i've installed grub back and its working for my windows to boot up09:06
needhelpbut for kubuntu, it keep saying file not found when selecting the menu09:06
needhelpi checked the kernal and initrd files are all there in /boot09:06
needhelpexcept the root=UUID=xxx instead of root=/dev/sda3 .. which i changed and try and its the same09:07
needhelpsigh!!!09:07
m0ns00nHello09:07
m0ns00nAnyone good at fixing networking problems?09:07
jussi01!anyone | m0ns00n09:11
ubottum0ns00n: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:11
flaccidDragonath: did you use fuser command with appropriate switches?09:11
flaccidneedhelp: brb and i can help fix09:11
needhelpnvmind i got it09:14
needhelpi was editing /grub/boot/menu.lst instead of /mnt/grub/boot/menu.lst :)09:14
needhelptrying now again09:14
needhelpok solved!!09:15
m0ns00nubottu, I have a hardy machine here with kubuntu. I removed the knetworkmanager applet because it was inconsistent with system settings->network and just didn't work09:17
ubottum0ns00n: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:17
jussi01m0ns00n: so have you tried reinstalling knetwork manager?09:18
m0ns00nI have a hardy machine here with kubuntu. I removed the knetworkmanager applet because it was inconsistent with system settings->network and just didn't work. I am fiddling around with trying to make the network work. I can ping google's ip address, but not it's hostname, that's my problem09:18
m0ns00nI have tried to setup route myself, and also ifconfig'd the device09:19
m0ns00nSame problem09:19
m0ns00nI can ping google's ip, or other ip addies, but not the hostnames09:19
m0ns00nIn fact, I can't reach anything through hostnames...09:19
jussi01m0ns00n: ahh, thats because knetwork manager manages the DNS and now you dont have one.09:20
jussi01so you either need to manually add one or reinstall knetwork manager09:20
llutzm0ns00n: add "nameserver -ip-of-your-dns>" to /etc/resolv.conf09:25
m0ns00njussi01, Well, I have the dns correctly set in /etc/resolv.conf09:26
m0ns00nlike on all other computers here09:26
m0ns00nand the route table is alike the other ubuntu machines09:27
m0ns00nand the ip setup ( with gateway, bcast etc )09:27
jussi01m0ns00n: just covering the basics first, you have restarted the netwrok after making changes?09:27
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flaccidneedhelp: all good now?09:38
flaccidm0ns00n: so what happens when you do host -v google.com?09:39
noaXess!fsck.ntfs09:39
ubottuFactoid fsck.ntfs not found09:39
noaXess!fsck09:39
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot09:39
noaXesshow can i install fsck.ntfs?09:40
forky;D09:43
flaccidnoaXess: i don't think there is one, but there is testdisk09:45
noaXessflaccid: yeah.. but with testdisk i can't check the file structur.. or check for bad sectors or read errors.. or i haven't found it in testdisk..09:45
flaccidi think you can do some of that. keep in mind this is ntfs... and yeah if you google you find out there is no such thing as fsck.ntfs09:46
flaccidwell thats what it seems09:47
noaXessok09:48
flaccidnoaXess: also check out the ntfs-progs pkg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ntfsprogs09:49
flaccidim off09:50
The_ManU_212is this normal?09:51
The_ManU_212http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/316224/09:51
The_ManU_212this ignore?09:51
DuesentriebThe_ManU_212: looks normal to me.09:52
Duesentriebanyway...09:52
Duesentriebcan someone tell me if qtparted and kparted are the same thing? i can't find kparted in the repos. and qtparted seems to suck :(09:53
Duesentrieb"suck" as in "freeze the ui while doing disk stuff".09:53
The_ManU_212Duesentrieb: because with apt-get update the connection to winehq timeout and then for some minutes apt-get update was temporary locked09:54
The_ManU_212sudo apt-get update09:54
The_ManU_212[10:44] <The_ManU_212> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:54
The_ManU_212[10:44] <The_ManU_212> E: Kann kein Lock auf das Listenverzeichnis bekommen09:54
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Duesentriebyou'd get that error if there is still some apt process running.09:55
The_ManU_212Duesentrieb: ok thx10:06
jsanz_Since i upgraded to hardy, the scroll in konsole goes a lot slower :s10:10
jsanz_anybody has any clue about how to solve it10:22
Duesentriebjsanz_: just an idea: try a different font and play with antializing modes.10:23
Duesentriebalso, maybe there's a "smooth scrolling" option somewhere that you could disable. not sure if that exists globally for kde.10:23
jm87i ve some problem10:42
jm87i dont  know how to install ff3 on my ubintu10:43
jm87ubunt+u10:43
llutzjm87: sudo aptitude install firefox-3.010:44
jm87i downloaded file yeterday i try to install now on pc don t run su and sudo modality i dont know why10:46
llutzjm87: don't install the tar.bz2, wait until ff3-final will be in repos10:47
jm87when i find to authenticate gives me error authenthication falliure10:47
jm87but i write my pwd wright10:48
FoxI2jm87, try a simple: sudo apt-get update and tell us what it says after you put in your password.10:49
jm87Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg10:53
jm87Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-it [111kB]10:53
jm87Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Translation-it [2568B]10:53
jm87Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Translation-it [41,6kB]10:53
jm87Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Translation-it [3158B]10:53
KRF!nopaste jm8710:54
ubottuFactoid nopaste jm87 not found10:54
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KRF!paste10:54
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)10:54
jm87i don t know how to post ultiline text10:55
FoxIIIjm87, From what you have mentioned, you are entering the password correctly. Maybe try going into adept package manager and searching for FF3 there. It could be that you're putting in a wrong package name.10:57
jm87inpossible i copy the link from my desktop to shell10:59
FoxIIIWhat are you typing in?10:59
zorglu__since i updated to ubuntun 8.04, i find the fonts ugly. i found them much nicer on my feisty. is there a doc or something on how to tune font aspect ?11:00
jm87where?11:00
zorglu__!font11:02
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer11:02
FoxIIIjm87, you said you were copying a link from the desktop to the shell. What are you typing into the shell?11:02
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FoxIII_outjm87, Gotta pop out, but if you put any information here, I'm sure there will be someone that will be able to help you further. Good luck :)11:05
GillesMproblems here with ilw3945 ...11:05
jm87sudo apt get install /home/jm87/Scrivania/firefox-3.0.tar.bz211:05
jm87i m not very good in english speaking and writing11:06
llutz!it | jm8711:06
ubottujm87: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:06
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ActionParsniphey all11:39
ActionParsnip!firefox311:39
ubottuFirefox 3 beta 5 is in hardy, and will get updated, because the firefox 2 branch will be unsupported before the support cycle for Ubuntu Hardy finishes.11:39
ActionParsnipits still beta?11:39
rp_nope11:47
rp_v3 final is out now11:48
ubuntu_hi to all11:52
ubuntu_i need help11:52
ds187!ask11:52
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)11:52
ubuntu_i want to install kubuntu804 but i have 1 hdd and ntfs on it11:53
ubuntu_can i convert my nrfs to ext without data lost11:53
ubuntu_guys.. i need help please.. i load my liveCD and i dont know what can o do now.. my data on ntfs drive is important11:56
jussi01ubuntu_: resize the ntfs11:56
jussi01but only after defragmenting several times11:57
ubuntu_how.. what tools for it i need11:57
jussi01ubuntu_: you can do it via the partition editor in the install11:57
ubuntu_i cant defrag because i dont have any windows systems on it11:57
ubuntu_can you tell me step by step11:58
ubuntu_only new partition option enabled in installer program11:59
ubuntu_but i have important data and i can view it now12:00
dr_WillisI feel i should point out the imporntance of good backups. :)12:00
* dr_Willis just got here.12:00
ubuntu_oh my goth... any linux users here?12:01
ubuntu_no?12:01
ubuntu_i think i waist my time with this system... it is not for a girls..12:02
MintLarsHey guys. I'm having trouble with nvidia driver. Anyone who feel they can be of any assistance can visit this thread in kubuntuforums: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095411.012:03
dr_WillisI use linux all the time.12:04
dr_Willis:) but i missed your original problem.12:04
ubuntu_can i convert ntfs partition to ext3 without data lost? how?12:04
dr_WillisHmm... Convert.. Not that i know of.12:04
dr_WillisIn theory you could resize, create an ext3, move data over, resize again.12:04
dr_Willisbut that would take a lot of time.12:04
ubuntu_i have much time12:05
ubuntu_what can i do this?12:05
MegloIs it possible to get nvidia-settings from the repositories, it shows up but is unavailable. It seems to be the only way for me to configure both my monitors correctly, as the system settings applet to do it doesn't detect the secondary monitor.12:06
ubuntu_fuck12:06
dr_WillisIt pays to think first, make a plan then act.  Why are you converting ntfs to ext3 anyhway?12:07
chelldoes remastersys work with kubuntu?12:07
dr_Willisand it always pays to have backups of your imporntant data12:07
dr_Willisand aparently a dose of patience would help. :)12:09
yao_ziyuananyone using firefox 3 now? spot the ugly tabs?12:16
dr_WillisNot noticed really.12:19
dr_WillisSquare tabs with an Icon, text, and an X... so?12:19
yao_ziyuanDr_willis: are you using the default firefox theme?12:31
yao_ziyuanDr_willis: and are you applying the current kde theme to gtk apps like firefox?12:32
Dr_willis_No idea.  really. Im testing out Mint Linux at the moment. and im under gnome. So im not using kde at the moment12:32
Dr_willis_I normally run jwm as my window manager.12:33
eagles0513875VIVA ITALIa12:34
lovreKPDF is having trouble rendering a pdf file. 20 mins and didnt finish. What other viewer can i try?12:34
DNC_005hi all12:35
DNC_005how do i force resolution on this thing?12:35
DNC_005i want 1680 x 1050 but it won't let me :(12:35
lovreDNC_005: does your monitor suport that res?12:36
DNC_005yes12:37
DNC_005its shown in the settings as the optimum resolution12:37
DNC_005and i'm connecting to it via dvi12:37
lovreDNC_005: try removing all other resolutions from xorg.cfg file. That worked for me. (make a backup first)12:37
DNC_005oh wait i customised xorg.conf for my old crt :(12:38
DNC_005dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg time?12:38
Dr_willis_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - Often dosent work correctly for the new xorg stuff in hardy.12:39
DNC_005wow it detected it correctly straight away12:40
DNC_005i'm using some old version, fiesty i think12:40
DNC_005brb12:40
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helpyhow do you install from .tar.bz2 files?12:53
* sajid is12:53
Dr_willis_helpy,  you uncompress the source and compile it.12:56
Dr_willis_its best to find packages for the stuff.12:56
Dr_willis_http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/12:57
helpycompile it ?12:57
Dr_willis_if its source code.. yes it needs to be compiled.12:58
helpyits not source code12:58
Dr_willis_and you will need to install the proper files to get a working compiler and other related packages12:58
Dr_willis_then what IS it?12:58
helpyfreemind12:59
helpy.tar.gz2 file12:59
Dr_willis_the fact its a tar.gz2 means nothing.12:59
Dr_willis_its whats in the archive that matters.12:59
Dr_willis_I would say check the freemind homepage.12:59
Dr_willis_!find freemind13:00
ubottuFound: freemind13:00
Dr_willis_!info freemind13:00
ubottufreemind (source: freemind): A Java Program for creating and viewing Mindmaps. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.7.1-6ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 402 kB, installed size 616 kB13:00
Dr_willis_It seems tobe in the package repositories.13:00
Dr_willis_'sudo apt-get install freemind' should install it. If you have the  multiverse repoistory enabled.13:00
helpylet me see13:01
helpythanks Dr13:02
helpyits on its way13:02
helpyi wonder if it has bit tyrant too13:02
Dr_willis_this is why one always trys to use the package manager. :) not 'source archives'13:02
Dr_willis_Never herad of bittryant13:03
Dr_willis_!find tryant13:03
ubottuPackage/file tryant does not exist in hardy13:03
The_ManU_212how to use autoidentify with konversation?13:17
The_ManU_212which command for "service"?13:17
llutz"password" in server-settings13:17
sandro_hola13:19
JucatoThe_ManU_212: depends on the server. usually you put "NickServ" in the service13:22
The_ManU_212thx works Jucato :)13:24
chellmy kubuntu is hanging during system update13:34
chellConfiguring new version of ssl-cert13:34
BluesKajhiyas13:47
Pennycookchell: Have you tried updating in the terminal?  I know Adept can be a bit funny if some packages require confirmation.13:54
engineerPennycook have you tried updating with synaptic?13:57
engineerif not you should13:57
BluesKajthere'are some upgrading issues with both adept and apt today , both froze up for a few mins. I thought the new Firefox Official Release would be available in the repos.13:58
Pennycookengineer: It's not my problem. :)  I personally use the terminal all the time.13:58
engineeri use the terminal too13:58
engineerbut synaptic can be useful for more complex stuff13:59
engineeri keep adept out of my system13:59
BluesKajthere's nothing wrong with adept if the repos are setup ok14:01
BluesKajsynaptic does a bit more with correcting broken dependencies but it's too literal in it's searches , misses a lot of apps that adept finds with no probs14:02
punisherhi all14:05
punishercan you help me with Gnome?14:05
punisherHe had long time to load14:05
Dr_willis_Well this is the KDE ubuntu channel. :) you want #ubuntu most likely14:05
Dr_willis_Kubuntu = Kde+ubuntu14:05
punisherну и что?14:06
Dr_willis_!ru14:06
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke14:06
punisherТипа вы недолинуксы чтоли?14:06
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AcidToonso how is everyone doing tonight?14:14
mcchrm14:15
mccwow14:15
AcidToonlol i'm installing wow right now14:15
mccyou guys wont believe this....  i'm sitting in a classroom in  a village in africa, i'm australian... these guys are running ubuntu :)14:16
AcidToonnice14:16
mcc:|14:16
mcclol14:16
BluesKajmcc , very cool :)14:16
mccmcc lol default account on this thing14:17
AcidToonjust installed ubuntu for the first time tonight14:17
AcidToonlikeing it so far14:17
mccits great14:17
mccgnome or kde?14:17
AcidToonnot sure lol14:17
AcidToonnew to all of this14:18
mccyou have main main menu on top or bottom of screen?14:18
mccme to a month ago14:18
AcidToonwas on top but i moved it14:18
mccthats gnome14:18
AcidToonkk14:18
AcidToonbeats the hell out of vista14:18
Dr_willis_Kubuntu = kde, ubuntu = gnome. :)14:19
mccdude14:19
AcidToonjust have 2 see what my fps is in wow now14:19
mccinstall whats it called ggaahhh... Dr_willis.. the app for 3d desktop nice graphics etc?14:19
AcidToonyea i have the cube thing up14:19
AcidTooni love it14:19
mccnice one14:20
ubuntuhello all14:20
AcidToonhello14:20
Dr_willis_!compiz14:20
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion14:20
mccCOMPIZ14:20
mccthats the one lol14:20
ubuntu.14:20
mccyay... the bot is smart14:20
mccbrb14:20
AcidToonyea i'm running on a e6600 oced to 3.6 with 2 bfg 8800 oc2's14:21
AcidToonyea thats what i got14:21
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BluesKajmcc, Zambia eh, how far from Lusaka ?14:21
mccNICE14:22
mccbastard guy14:22
mcci gotta go14:22
mccenjoy ure video card14:22
mccggrrrr14:22
mcclol14:22
AcidToonlol14:22
AcidToonlater14:22
josai think i've "accidentally" installed some Intrepid packages... any way to get rid of them? i have already disabled intrepid from repos14:26
josaor does apt-get do that automatically, i have suddenly a lot of upgradeable packages14:27
BluesKajjosa, how did you install intrepid, with apt / adept/ synaptic ?14:31
Pochello14:32
josai enabled intrepid to get a program update that wasnt in hardy, and did apt-get upgrade without thinking enough14:32
josai mean, there are only a few packages i guess14:32
PocOo14:33
josait's not "full upgrade" now isnt it, i recall there were just some driver libraries or something like that14:34
josaor i could find the logs and see if i did "upgrade" afterall, maybe the packages were just recommended with the program14:35
josaok, for example my Perl is 5.10.0-10 which seems to be intrepid according to packages.ubuntu14:38
AcidToonso has anyone gotten wow 2 install on ubuntu?14:39
dr_WillisWow2?  ive heard that World of Warcraft works with Wine.14:39
AcidToonyea14:39
BluesKajjosa, are you talking about intrepid Ibex , cuz most ppl refer to the next release (k)ubuntu as Ibex14:40
AcidTooni have gotted the first 1/2 done14:40
dr_Willisit requires a few tweaks i belive.14:40
Ambientwow works very good with both directx and opengl for me14:40
Ambientstraight out of the box14:40
Ambientwith nvidia drivers and wine 114:40
josayes... Ibex14:40
AcidToonbut burning crusade wont14:40
dr_WillisNo idea on that. Check the wine app data base14:41
dr_Willis!appdb14:41
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org14:41
Ambientwell, I guess I have the advantage of having it preinstalled first in windows xp and then copying the directory to linux ;)14:41
BluesKajAmbient, perhaps you could elaborate on your setup so there's some benefit from your statement14:41
AcidToonyea i may do that14:41
AcidToonsave time on the updates lol14:41
Ambienthave'nt tried installing through wine14:41
AcidTooni guess i'll hook up my usb hd and copy it over :)14:42
AcidToonso in wow did u lose any fps ?14:44
Ambientmaybe something like 10%-20%14:44
AcidToonok i can deal with that14:44
Ambientyou might have some sound problems too14:44
AcidTooni'm pushing 120 in vista14:44
Ambientah.. so your framerate will stay the same ;)14:45
AcidToonk14:45
Ambientbecause of vista > linux, instead of xp > linux14:45
AcidToonyea xp i was getting around 150 16014:45
AcidToonthe only big thing is ventrilo anyone know if it works ?14:46
dr_Willisfrom what i hear.. NO it does not14:46
AcidToon:(14:47
dr_Willis!appdb14:47
dr_Willischeck the wine app database14:47
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org14:47
AcidToonlol14:47
Ambientteamspeak has a native client for linux iirc14:48
AcidToonthe site is giveing me errors14:48
dr_WillisAmbient,  correct.14:48
AcidToontoo many connections14:48
AcidToonyea but i have my own vent server already paid for14:48
Dragonathright, something is hogging my xine and I want to know what it is so I could shut it down... any ideas?14:48
r2b2ryanhi i need help on svn14:49
Ambientanyone here trying to install google gadgets for linux btw?14:50
Ambientor know somewhere I might get help with that?14:50
dr_WillisAmbient,  i saw a premade deb just today on some ubuntu web site14:50
dr_WillisAmbient,  took all of 20 sec to install :)14:50
Ambientoh, sweetness14:50
r2b2ryani successfully followed the guide in ubuntu docs14:50
Ambientyou _have_ to provide me with a link14:50
r2b2ryanbut still confused14:50
r2b2ryanon svn config and everything14:51
kalorinyeah I need to set up some kind of cvs style repository14:51
AmbientI'm doing ./configure, all libs installed but it still wont let me 'make'14:51
dr_Willishttp://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/06/16/install-google-gadgets-for-linux-on-ubuntu/14:51
dr_WillisAmbient,  i got most of the ubuntu news sites with live bookmarms. :)14:51
Ambientdr_Willis: thank you very much14:51
dr_WillisNot that i found google gadgets WORTH installing. :)14:51
dr_Willisstill looking for a nice calculator program14:52
Ambientcalculator widget?14:52
dr_WillisThe ones they got - sort of Suck. :) dont do what i want14:52
r2b2ryanfor example i already created a repository, but i found somewhere that the recommended structure is /trunk ,/branches ,/tags14:52
Ambienti use 'python' for all my calculation needs14:53
Ambientif I need to get silly, I just import numpy14:53
dr_WillisI just want a calculator thats resizeable with LARGE #'s and a 'history tape' :)14:53
Ambientwell I'd love to hack something but I would need a better spec than that and still couldn't promise that I would write anything ;)14:54
dr_Willisthose specs are rather clear. :) If i make the thing full screen.. i want Inch+ tall numbers.. so i can see them.. and a history tape . so i can recall the #'s ive used/entered/ and so forth.14:57
dr_Willisive only found one under windows that does that. :) it sucks to get old with bad eyes14:58
AcidToonok got ventrilo working14:58
AcidToon:)14:58
AcidToonworks great14:58
dr_WillisAcidToon,  thats a first - that ive heard in this channel then. :)14:58
AcidToonhttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=983214:59
AcidToonthats the site i got the info from14:59
noaXesswhats a good tool to convert a ogg video to a mpg/divx video?14:59
dr_Willis!info avidmux15:01
ubottuPackage avidmux does not exist in hardy15:01
dr_Willis!find avid15:01
ubottuFound: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux (and 3 others)15:01
dr_Willisavidemux :)15:01
Dragonathright, something is hogging my xine and I want to know what it is so I could shut it down... any ideas?15:02
NutubuntuI'd like to write some little script that would play a .wav of the old original Star Trek line "He's dead, Jim!" whenever Firefox goes zombie. What would be the best way to set that up? Ideally it would have some way of preventing multiple iterations of the script from executing simultaneously so that the line doesn't get garbled...15:06
noaXessdr_Willis:  but if i open de ogg file in avidemux then: attempt to open ...ogg failed15:07
noaXessthe ogg file was made from recordmydesktop15:07
noaXessgtk-recordMyDesktop15:08
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sigma__anyone tried wine1.0?15:08
dr_WillisnoaXess,  its possible you need to install some codecs. check the error messages in the terminal perhaps.15:09
noaXessokay.. i see..15:09
NutubuntuIs there some way to kill a process that won't go away -- short of restarting? 'sudo kill -9 <pid>' did not kill it.15:12
Dragonathtry "sudo pkill <pname or pid>" ?15:16
the-ermAnyone in here ever had the joy of setting up apt-cacher?15:19
Nutubuntut/y Dragonath - it's Firefox, it's dead, and it's like the Energizer bunny - it just keeps running. ps aux says <defunct> and I can't get rid of it15:19
the-ermIt's pretty slow when it comes to downloading the header files, and I was wondering if there was some magic setting in apt to set it to a "proxy"15:19
the-ermNutubuntu: if you have htop sudo htop and kill it with f915:20
the-ermif a sig 15 doesn't do it send it a sig 915:20
dr_Willisrestart X perhaps.15:21
Nutubuntu'sudo kill -9 <pid>' did not kill it15:21
kalorinthe-erm: I perfer H&K to Sig, but Sig's a good 9 too15:21
kalorin;015:21
AcidToonwell guys i'm going 2 boot over 2 vista and copy wow over  i'll be back later and thanks for the help15:21
Nutubuntut/y dr_Willis - I'll restart X then15:22
NutubuntuBye all, and thx!15:22
dr_Willisi wonder if acidtoon knows linux can read ntfs partitions...15:23
Ambientand just how is he going to copy it from windows15:24
Ambientit's a lot harder that way15:24
linuxloverhello room15:24
dr_WillisIve given up on WoW ages ago.. :)15:24
linuxloveri have three pcs and i am experimenting on them with a small network using a router. this is going fine and i can share the internet, but my resolv.conf is showing my router's ip address as my nameserver. Is is going properly? Or I should change the nameserver as the DNS server of my ISP?15:30
Ambientlinuxlover: your router happen to support dhcp connections? that would be so much easier...15:31
dr_WillisI always use the routers ip as my nameserver linuxlover15:31
dr_Willislinuxlover,  either way works here. - if your isp gives you 2 dns servers, you may want to try reversing the order so you might get one with less load. :)  if you set the dns manually.15:32
Dragonathsomething is hogging my xine and I want to know what it is so I could shut it down... any ideas?15:33
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linuxloverAmbient: yes, my router is configured for dhcp connections15:34
Ambientlinuxlover: i just find it a lot easier when I have plenty of devices using both wireless and wired connections15:36
Ambientif I need to I can just bind IP to mac15:36
linuxloverdr_Willis: thank you for your concern, that you also like the routers ip address as your nameserver. it assured me that i am not going with anything wrong. thank you for giving me this lession.15:36
noaXessdr_Willis: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016 its a really cool converting interface.. and it works fine..15:36
dicemanhello15:37
linuxloverAmbient: i also used dhcp because of its ease, as i am a real newbie in this work and working for my learning purpose. anyway, your response assured that i am not going wrong, so i am leaving the matter as usual.15:38
linuxloverAmbient: Thank you very much for attending my question.15:39
Ambientnp, really15:39
LinuxWorldouh...a formal guy ..15:39
LinuxWorldlinuxlover :D15:39
LinuxWorldanyone managed to run IE7 with ieslinux?15:40
dicemani try to change my login screen under kde 3xx15:41
dicemansomeone can help me ?15:41
dicemani have already  kdmtheme15:41
BluesKajLinuxWorld, there were some IT dudes here who were using IE7 on Linux using wine , but I haven't heard much about it lately15:43
lucianoOi, algum brasileiro?15:44
LinuxWorldthe thing is i installed it and also the sucky IE6 but only IE6 connects to the internet..IE7 not15:44
LinuxWorldno idea why.15:44
LinuxWorldjust need this stupid browser to test some websites...15:44
engineerluciano nao cara15:45
engineerLinuxWorld try vmware15:45
lucianoengineer, oi. Tu tem como me ajudar com dependências de pacotes quebradas?15:46
BluesKajLinuxWorld, http://webexpose.org/2007/01/07/internet-explorer-7-on-linux/ , says ; this won’t give you the IE7 interface running in Linux, but rather the IE7 rendering engine inside the IE6 interface15:46
LinuxWorldyes i know that15:47
BluesKajok15:47
LinuxWorldbut it should at least make some connection15:47
LinuxWorldit wont15:47
engineerluciano sudo apt-get -f install15:47
lucianoengineer, não funciona. Diz que há uma dependência no pacote libc6, depois disso é tudo redundate. Um pacote depende outro, que depende de outro, que no final, depende do libc615:49
engineerinstalla o libc615:49
lucianoJá tentei, mas é exeibida uma informação de que o debconf não está instalado. Mas está.15:50
lakis1982does anyone of u use kaffeine ???15:52
engineersure15:52
lakis1982how do i change the aspect ratio to kaffeine  player ??15:52
engineerplayer -> video - aspect ratio15:53
Daisuke_Laptopit's a safety feature of IE7 - MS has realized how buggy and full of security holes IE7 is, so they've decided to release a patch that keeps it from connecting to the internet at all15:53
javierhello can someone help me with a screen resolution problem i have??15:53
LinuxWorlddaisuke: talking with me?15:54
LinuxWorldhehe15:54
engineerjavier Instead of asking whether anyone works with something you need help with, please save time by asking your actual question. If someone knows and wants/has time to help, perhaps he/she will.15:54
LinuxWorldthats the best patch they could ever release!15:55
lakis1982but it hasnt aspect ratio 16:915:55
lakis1982i found it15:56
javierok, im having this resolution problem, my kde desktop is smaller than my screen, here is a screen cap http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=instantnea3qh1.jpg15:57
javierhow do i set a new resolution or what do i modify??15:59
BluesKajjavier, 'k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.16:02
lucianoPlease, may you help me with broken dependencies?16:03
javierBluesKaj, how do i know my graphics card??16:04
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MorslokJuly 11th16:04
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BluesKajjavier, lspci -v | grep Video16:07
BluesKajjavier , or lspci -v | grep VGA16:09
javier00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])16:11
javiermy video card is not in the hardeware configuration16:11
javiershould i use Intel 965?? even though it has no gm??16:12
BluesKaj!intel-graphics16:17
ubottuFactoid intel-graphics not found16:17
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BB_LaptopMornin all i installed your distro on my desktop had to use text mode it installed well but on reboot it loads all drivers than hangs at the Kubuntu screen the blue bar never moved waited 5 min can you help16:28
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ivan_does anyone know a disk partiton program i ca use??16:34
rickestgparted16:34
engineerqtparted16:35
ivan_which is better??16:36
jpds!best | ivan_16:36
ubottuivan_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:36
rickestthey are both just front-ends to parted, google them16:37
ivan_ok ok thanks16:37
yarddogwhat version of kde is kubuntu by default, 8.0416:37
ax56muvciao a tutti16:38
Jucatoyarddog: KDE 3.5.9 unless you use the KDE 4 Remix installer16:39
yarddogok16:39
hannibalihjjjooohmai16:39
hannibaltag zusammen16:39
lucaciao16:40
Escaflownehi16:40
lucacome istallo amsn su kubundu?16:40
Jucato!it | luca16:42
ubottuluca: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:42
lucaok grassie16:42
kamilsosenglish someone?16:42
kamilsoso well16:43
Escaflowneadept just updated my kernel and now the installation stopped, it says i modified my menu.lst and it asks for my decision between several options16:43
Escaflownenow my problem is, i cant choose anything because i cant move or klick anything within the window -_-16:43
JoshOvkiEscaflowne: use the up down arrows16:44
JoshOvkiand Enter16:44
Escaflownei already tried that16:44
JoshOvkiand it doesnt move?16:44
Escaflowneit doesnt move16:44
Escaflowneso it wont accept enter or anything16:44
JoshOvkiEscaflowne: did you upgrade via command or adept?16:45
Escaflowneadept16:45
ivan_rickest, how do i modify the partition i am in, it is blocked??16:45
Escaflownei get this little terminal when klicking on "show details"16:45
rickestivan_: you can never modify a partition that's mounted for writing. most people use a LiveCD16:47
JoshOvkiEscaflowne: then i have no idea, i always upgrade via terminal16:47
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Escaflownebut it seems like i have no access to it, it just shows me my options and i cant choose anything by clicking or by using the arrow keys16:49
Escaflownehmm...16:49
ivan_rickest, how do i do that?? i burn gparted in someway???16:49
rickestivan_: you need to download a LiveCD, burn it to a CD, and boot off that.  gparted has a LiveCD just for that purpose but you can use any LiveCD that includes parted16:49
rickestivan_: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php16:50
Escaflownecan i savely close adept while its stuck at this point of the installation?16:50
Escaflownealso i would like to know how to to delete the old kernel files16:52
ivan_rickest, ok another question that may solve my problem, ive got ubuntu installed but when i installed kubuntu i cant acces ubuntu even thoguh i can acces to all its files, in the grub i can only fin kubuntu16:52
rickestivan_: grub is the wrong place to look.  Do you know if you have xdm/gdm installed?16:54
ivan_rickest no idea16:54
rickestivan_: when you first boot up and you finally get a graphics screen do you have to login or does your whole desktop appear automatically?16:55
ivan_rickest, i have windows in also so before kubuntu boots i need to chose between several options16:56
rickestivan_: right, I understand.  After you select Kubuntu does everything load or does it stop and make you log in at some point?16:57
Escaflowneok i canceled adept and killed dpkg and then run dpkg --configure -a and now the installation finished successfully^^16:59
ivan_rickest, yes i have to put my passw to enter to the desktop17:00
rickestivan_: somewhere on that screen is where you should be able to select whether you want Gnome (ubuntu) or KDE (kubuntu)17:01
rickestivan_: ubuntu and kubuntu are exactly the same thing except which window manager they start by default, gnome or kde17:01
ivan_even if they are in different partitions??17:01
ivan_rickest, even if they are in different partitions??17:01
rickestivan_: oh, no17:02
rickestivan_: in that case, grub was the right place to look.  you'll need to add an entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to your Ubuntu install17:03
ivan_rickes, i out that code into konsole??17:03
rickestivan_: presumably, yes17:03
eagles0513875hey room17:04
morslokhow do i change the resolution that the login screen defaults to? for some the login screen is 640x48017:06
ivan_rickest, do you want me to pastebin my results forom that so u can help me fix it??17:07
eagles0513875what do i need to focus for the kernel source17:07
rickestivan_: I think that will be difficult w/o being there.  You can try, need to paste /boot/grub/menu.lst and the output of 'fdisk -l' (as root)17:08
eagles0513875!kernel17:09
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages17:09
pteague_workok, how do i get dolphin to stop handling protocols & get konqueror to handle them?  i'm using the network folders panel applet & i don't like dolphin17:10
Jucato!d3lphin | pteague_work (presuming this is KDE 3)17:11
ubottupteague_work (presuming this is KDE 3): Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.17:11
ivan_rickest, this is gonna be harder my kubuntu is in spanish17:12
ivan_rickest, the boot menu is in english though17:12
duhHow do I get rid of dolphin and use konqueror as my file browser?17:12
Jucato!d3lphin | duh (presuming this is KDE 3)17:12
ubottuduh (presuming this is KDE 3): Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.17:12
pteague_workJucato: thanks, i knew it was a setting in konqueror, but couldn't remember which file assoc to change17:13
rickestivan_: I don't think I'll be able to help.  basically, what you're looking to do is add a section to menu.lst that looks just like an existing section, except "root=" should point somewhere else17:13
ivan_rickest ok, ill fix it later thanks for your help17:14
rickestivan_: the "root (hd0,0)" will be different for that section also.17:14
duhCan I delete d3lphin completely now without screwing stuff up?17:15
duhI am used to konqueror17:15
ActionParsniphey all17:15
ActionParsnip!java6417:16
ubottuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava17:16
duhAnd really don't want to use anything else17:16
eagles0513875hey ActionParsnip17:16
ActionParsniphey eagles051387517:17
ActionParsnipjust got ff317:17
ActionParsnipnot bad17:17
ActionParsnipjust getting java sorted17:17
ActionParsnipsome how17:17
eagles0513875gmail is lagging a bit17:17
eagles0513875i need to try out java 6417:17
morslokdoes anyone know how to change the resolution the login screen uses?17:18
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: what i mean is when u come to scroll in gmail lits slow17:18
ActionParsnipi use thunderbird for gmail17:19
ActionParsnipweb based email is not my thing17:19
ActionParsniphas anyone had any luck with 64bit java for firefox???17:20
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: getting quite ballzy lol downloading the kernel source and im going ot start customizing it17:21
ActionParsnipnice one eagles051387517:21
ActionParsnipfun and games17:21
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: yep if all things go well it will be a part of my clustering distro i wanna make17:22
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filo1234!samba17:23
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:23
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ixenakisGood evening :-))17:29
biagidpI'm running 8.04 and my system is recognizing the two monitors connected to it as one giant monitor.  Can anyone tell me how to get it to properly recognize them as seperate monitors so I can independantly change the resolution?17:29
ivan_rickest, ill leave my paste bin for my boot list, maybe you can figure it out17:31
ivan_rickest, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21174/17:31
filo1234how can i open link from konsole using irssi?17:31
biagidpI'm running 8.04 and my system is recognizing the two monitors connected to it as one giant monitor.  Can anyone tell me how to get it to properly recognize them as seperate monitors so I can independantly change the resolution?17:31
eagles0513875where in a kernel is the best place to start customizing17:33
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Pennycookbiagidp: Are you using an nVidia card?17:37
biagidppennycook: yes17:37
eagles0513875i have a question in regards to kernel customization can anybody help me with that17:38
Pennycookbiagidp: If you install the nvidia-settings package, you can run nvidia-settings to get a configuration tool.17:38
BluesKajeagles0513875, I thought the basic kernel was built on , so one customizes by compiling them into it. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch07.pdf17:38
biagidpPennycook: Thanks, I'll give it a try17:38
Pennycookeagles0513875: This channel is for #kubuntu support, I'd recommend looking elsewhere for kernel customization and programming tips.17:38
eagles0513875Pennycook: k17:38
eagles0513875*ok17:38
BluesKajeagles0513875, did you see the URL ?17:39
eagles0513875BluesKaj: im looking at it and i also hopped in kernel channel17:39
BluesKajeagles0513875, good !  :)17:40
ShadowKnightHello, anyone here?17:41
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ShadowKnightUm... I have a question?17:42
morslokgo ahead and ask17:42
ShadowKnightCan anyone help me?17:42
eagles0513875BluesKaj: seems like my question has been answered in the other channel i was informed the following here's some merging going on between the two (32-bit and 64-bit) systems17:42
filo1234i use irssi like irc client, is possible to open browser link from konsole without make cut and paste on browser?17:42
eagles0513875BluesKaj:  in the following sense in the sense that most of the architecture specific code is almost the same for i386-arch and x86-6417:42
ShadowKnightI accidentally removed the K menu. how do I get it back?17:42
pagShadowKnight, right click on panel -> add aplett -> k menu17:43
ShadowKnightoh, thanks. I looked for it there, i can't believe I didn't see it.17:44
ShadowKnightI must've typed "kmenu" into the search instead of "k menu"17:44
ShadowKnightThanks a lot.17:45
pagnp :)17:45
ShadowKnightAnother thing... is it possible to modify the size and appearance of panels other than the main Kicker one?17:45
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo17:47
ActionParsnipi cant get java :(17:47
ActionParsnipi noticed in adept17:48
pagShadowKnight, alt+f2 -> kcontrol -> desktop -> panel -> drop-down menu which reads "main panel"17:49
pagActionParsnip, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  iirc17:49
ShadowKnightAh, thanks again.17:50
ActionParsnippag: im on amd64, still good?17:50
ActionParsnippag: with 64bit linux17:50
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: yes it is17:50
pagActionParsnip, not sure... try apt-cache search sun |grep java17:50
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: im using sun-java6-jre no problems17:50
eagles0513875im on hardy 64bit17:50
XeLHi, is KDE 4 for Ubuntu is stable now?17:51
pagXeL, define stable ;)17:51
pagXeL, it won't crash on you every now and then, but I wouldn't call it usable just yet17:52
XeLpag, so nobody is sure :(17:52
ActionParsnipok, its downloading17:53
ActionParsnipwhere does the symlink in ~/.mozilla/plugins get made to please17:53
pagXeL, you can try for yourself if it suits your need :-)17:53
XeLok. pag, thanks17:54
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: where do you symlink to please dude?17:54
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: for java for firefox17:54
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: i didnt symlink anything17:54
eagles0513875i just let it install in like normal17:55
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: erm ok cool17:55
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: ill ttyl17:55
ActionParsnipusually theres some cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /path/to/libjava_olj.so .17:55
eagles0513875off to the beach with what ever is left of the afternoon17:55
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: try it trust me on that17:55
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: wll do bro17:56
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: have a blast dude17:56
morslokanybody know how to change the default resolution of the login screen?17:56
ActionParsnipmorslok: its the leftmost resolution in your xorg.conf17:56
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: will do17:57
ActionParsnipmorslok: make a backup of xorg.conf and edit it, move the res you want to be first on the left17:57
ActionParsnipmorslok: ALWAYS make a backup of .conf files so you can always revert if things go bad17:58
morslokActionParsnip: under which section?18:00
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morslokscreen?18:01
PennycookActionParsnip: As far as I know, (true) Java won't work in Firefox on 64 bit.  If you want to use Java applets, you'll need to use OpenJDK (which isn't complete) or run the 32 bit verison of FIrefox + 32 bit Java.18:01
ActionParsnipPennycook: yeah i had ff32 but wanted to see the hubub abt ff318:02
ActionParsnipwhy cant sun pull their finger out faster18:02
ActionParsnipits sun!18:02
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hackerhi18:09
hacker有人吗?18:09
ActionParsnipPennycook: well youtube works so i mustve done something right18:10
ixenakishi18:11
hacker这是中国的频道吗?18:11
Tm_Thacker: english please18:11
window!past18:11
window!paste18:11
hackero18:11
ubottuFactoid past not found18:11
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:12
genii!cn | hacker18:12
ubottuhacker: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk18:12
hackerthanks18:12
hacker^^18:12
hackerbye18:12
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window!pastebin18:16
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:16
windowdoes somebody mind helping me with my network settings?18:17
windowmy network works PERFECT for say 30 minutes and then for some reason everything sets to some other setting, by itself18:17
geniiwindow: Sounds something like: You're on wireless and it loses the signal. So it then tries to latch onto the next available wireless access point.18:21
window_I'm sorry, I was disconnected again, does anybody have an idea as to why my network connection has a mind of its own? It seems to default or reset to an old setting at random18:22
mariechristinehello18:22
window_please hurry, i may be disconnected again18:22
mariechristinedo yoi speack french ??18:22
monkeybritcheswindow_: Mine does that too18:22
monkeybritchesIt seems to be a bug18:22
window_must be a default monkeybritches18:22
monkeybritchesI got it working with the ethtool command18:23
window_...does it jump around with its settings anymore?18:23
monkeybritchesBut my biggest complaint is it doesn't consistently accept dynamic addresses18:24
ActionParsnipwindow: you got latest updates?18:24
window_Action, everytime i update the connectoin drops and it says "cannot complete update" and "error" oh the irony18:24
monkeybritchesIt's working *now* but it's inconsistent, I can't explain why18:24
ActionParsnipwindow: does it stay connected if you set your ip statically18:24
window_yes18:24
window_and i keep it static now18:24
ActionParsnipwindow: good18:24
ActionParsnipdhcp is the devils work18:25
monkeybritches!fr | mariechristine18:25
ubottumariechristine: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr18:25
ActionParsnipwindow: is it better if you stand close to the access point?18:26
ActionParsnipwindow: does it happen on any other systems18:30
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window__but for some reason it just says "screw u, i don't like 192.168.1.1 i prefer 192.168.1.2" and so it switches to that, OUTA NOWHERE, it just did it now!18:32
window__when i close the network settings page it says "apply or discard settings changes" if i click either i get disconnected18:32
ActionParsnipwindow__: edit your /etc/network/interfaces file and make it a static IP instead18:33
window__ah!18:33
window__wait, how do i get there via graphic means?18:33
ActionParsnipwindow__: konsole18:34
window__one sec18:34
ActionParsnipor run kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces18:34
window__!pastebin18:35
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:35
ActionParsnipwindow__: once its open, save it in the same place as a different name (this backs it up) :)18:35
window__http://paste.ubuntu.com/21186/18:35
window__it seems to be right, but what is the loopback thing?18:35
ActionParsnipwindow__: your system needs that to communicate with itself18:36
window__mk18:36
window__!pastebin18:37
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:37
ActionParsnipwindow__: do you use wep / wpa etc?18:37
ActionParsnipwindow__: you said you use wireless?18:37
ActionParsnipeth0 is usually the wired interface18:38
window__no I'm not wireless haha18:38
ActionParsnipok cool18:39
ActionParsnipthen that looks fine to me18:39
ActionParsnipyou could add network and broadcast addresses but they arent massively needed18:40
ActionParsnipunless anyone knows different18:40
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BadBarbarianHI anybody home18:44
sincapguess so18:44
BadBarbariani need some help with Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake)18:44
BadBarbariani installed it in text mode because it would'nt install any other way18:45
BadBarbarianno greeb is installed and it boots both to your distro and xpx6418:46
ActionParsnipsup bad18:46
BadBarbarianbut all drivers load than i get to the Kubuntu screen with the bar and it stops loading18:47
ActionParsnipBadBarbarian: dapper is gonna take a lot of upgrading dude18:47
BadBarbarianproblem with my q660018:47
BadBarbariangot the dvd18:48
window*sigh* i'm sick of this, wth is wrong with my pc18:48
windowwhen i have the network settings thingopen it asks to apply settings, so i do, then it starts working, butwhen i close network settings it says "apply or discard" and if i click either one i get booted offline18:49
window!pastebin18:49
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:49
BadBarbarianok can i have a link to the best distro for a noob18:49
windowanyone? please hurry, my connection is the devil18:49
windowbadbarbarian, use Ubuntu18:50
ActionParsnipBadBarbarian: try disabling splash at boot to watch the output18:50
ActionParsnipBadBarbarian: backup your menu.list18:51
BadBarbarianok is there a command i need to know on boot18:51
BadBarbarianit has not fully booted yet18:51
windowcan somebody help with my network? it seems to work for a while, then some different settings kick in for no eff n reason and It stops working, it just did it again!18:52
windowplease please hurry, it's very unstable18:52
windowi mean, WHY would it just outa nowhere decide to switch settings?18:53
ActionParsnipBadBarbarian: so you get a prompt?18:53
window!pastebin18:54
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:54
windowah hell18:54
windowi'm setting everything up as root18:54
ActionParsnipBadBarbarian: if you backup your menu.list file you can edit it to remove the splash screen and you can watch your system boot without the stupid thing in the way18:54
window!pastebin18:56
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:56
windowoh good18:56
windowanyway, please please hurry, is there a way to just pin down my settings so it can't just f-ing run around doing whatever it pleases?18:56
jhutchins_wkwindow: How fresh is your install?  I take it you're running Hardy?18:56
BadBarbarianinstalled last night18:57
nightrowHi, i have found a small problem on kde4 on kubuntu : when i launch a torrent file and ktorrent is already running, torrent is added but i got a window saying "Kdeinit could not lauch ktorrent"18:58
ActionParsnipwindow: what kubuntu you on?18:59
nightrowis this a kubuntu or a kde4 issue ? i want to report the bug18:59
window_hardy18:59
ActionParsnipwindow_: and running kde3 or 4?18:59
window_i dunno, how do i find out?18:59
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ActionParsnipwindow_: does your desktop look black and vista-ish18:59
window_it's blue, kinda OS X like19:00
ActionParsnipcool kde319:00
ActionParsnipwindow_: did you md5 check your cd when you'd burned it?19:00
ActionParsnipwindow_: and the iso?19:00
window_yes19:01
window_0 errors in 0 files19:01
ActionParsnipwindow_: you dont get that when you md5 check, you get a code and a program compares it to another file and it says its ok19:02
window_it says 0 erros in the "check cd for errors" or something and the md5 checksum or whatever came out fine19:02
ActionParsnipwindow_: does it do the same in the live cd environment?19:03
window_yup19:03
window_seems to be some sorta default setting19:03
ActionParsnipwindow_: what nic do you have?19:04
window_nic?19:04
ActionParsnipnetwork interface card19:04
window_Realtek 813919:04
ActionParsnip8139c?19:05
window_yessum19:05
ActionParsnipwindow_: do you dual boot?19:06
window_yes i has Windows XP19:06
ActionParsnipthought so19:06
window_0.019:06
ActionParsnipyou havent been googling have you19:06
window_i can't XD i'm stuck offline19:07
ActionParsniphttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/realtek-813981688169-on-2.6.21.3-or-newer-593495/19:07
ActionParsnipwindow_: could have used another pc maybe19:07
ActionParsnipits weird how things work when search engines are used..people will earn one day19:07
c0rle0n3does anyone knows how to create pure-ftpd virtual users in kubuntu19:08
c0rle0n3what is in the manual doesnt work19:08
ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/pureftp.htm19:09
c0rle0n3I followed that19:09
c0rle0n3not working, virtual users cannot connect19:09
window_hm, actionparsnip, do you think even though i'm getting SOME connection this could be the problem?19:09
window_(as i said, i can't even get to google"19:09
ActionParsnipwindow_: it may be still tied to the rubbish on the other partition of your system, it needs freeing19:10
window_-.- actionparsnip....19:10
window_i'm going to hunt u down19:10
window_and give u a huge hug, in public19:11
ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: enable logging in the daemon and see if the connection is registered19:11
ActionParsnipwindow_: better now?19:11
window_we'll see XD19:11
window_but as i said, i couldn't reach google in the first place19:11
c0rle0n3ActionParsnip: how can I do that?19:11
ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: i dunno, i dont run an ftp server dude19:11
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ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: /var/log/pureftpd.log19:12
ActionParsnipmaybe?19:12
ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: i just googled that up19:12
dicemand19:14
ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: try sudo apt-get install kpum19:14
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ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: its a gui for the server :)19:14
ActionParsnipc0rle0n3: or sudo apt-get install pureadmin#19:14
ActionParsnipwithout the bang on the end19:15
window_isn't that called an octothorpe?19:15
ActionParsnipwindow_: ?19:15
ActionParsnipoh sorry its hash19:15
window_the # is an octothorpe XD19:15
ActionParsnip! == bang19:16
ubottuFactoid bang not found19:16
window_that's its name19:16
ActionParsniphash bang bin bash19:16
ActionParsnip#!/bin/bash19:16
ActionParsnip')19:16
ActionParsnipgood way to remember the header for bash scripts19:16
ActionParsnipdidnt kow its proper name19:16
ActionParsnip[ ] <- THOSE are brackets19:17
ActionParsnip( ) <- parenthesis19:17
ActionParsnip{ } <- braces19:17
window_oh.....well....can u google it for me just so i am sure that's what it is? haha19:17
likemindeadHello all.19:17
likemindeadThis is my first time :::ever::: in IRC....19:17
ActionParsnipA second story says that it is a whimsical creation based on the idea that the symbol looks like a village surrounded by eight fields. Thorp is the Old Norse word for a village, which appears in many English place names19:18
ActionParsniplikemindead: welcome19:18
likemindeadThanks!19:18
ActionParsnipwindow_: http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-oct1.htm19:19
likemindeadAny chance someone could advise me on my Radeon 7000 and screen flickers?19:19
ActionParsniplikemindead: ask in here for help with your system but remember to google first19:19
likemindeadGotcha.19:19
ActionParsniplikemindead: ok cool, do you have the graphics driver installed?19:19
dicemansomeone can help me ?19:20
likemindeadI'm using the open source "ati" driver and having a lot of screen flickers.19:20
window_oooooooh, neeto19:20
dicemanin installing a window decoration19:20
ActionParsnip!ati | likemindead19:20
ubottulikemindead: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:20
likemindeadSo binary is the way to go? Pretty stable?19:21
ActionParsniplikemindead: give that a go and see how you go. we'll be here to help (I might not, football is on soon)19:21
likemindeadScore.19:21
ActionParsniplikemindead: seems ok. I use nvidia personally19:21
likemindeadI tried two different Nvidia cards, first one was A19:21
mitsarionasActionParsnip: are you spanish or greek by any chance?19:21
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: English British19:22
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: why you ask?19:22
likemindead....sorry, first one was agp, second was pci-e and my old pavilion 522n can't do either!19:22
mitsarionasActionParsnip: cause it's spain vs greece in half an hour19:22
mitsarionas:)19:23
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: i just like watching the games19:23
enriquehola a todos19:23
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: russia lpay sweden/switzerland at the same time19:23
likemindeadSo I settled for a Radeon 7000. I really just needa  new machine. :-/19:23
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: some sw team19:23
likemindeadThanks again. Peace....19:23
ActionParsniplikemindead: if it does what you need at a reasonable speed its fine19:23
ActionParsniplikemindead: peace out bro19:24
ActionParsniplikemindead: i say peace loads19:24
ActionParsnip:D19:24
mitsarionasreally? though only the euro matches were on19:24
likemindeadYeah, speed is okay, but there are constant and minor, but annoying flickers accross the screen.19:24
mitsarionasanyways... could anyone tell me what's the proper/best way to install latest xorg, video drivers and so on on hardy?19:25
PennycookActionParsnip: YouTube = Flash =/= Java19:26
ActionParsnipPennycook: why does it moan about java plugins then sometimes19:27
PennycookI've never heard of that before.  Are you sure it isn't talking about JavaScript?19:28
ActionParsnipPennycook: java != javascript?19:28
PennycookNo, common mistake though.19:28
ActionParsnipso whats java script?19:29
ActionParsnipI know what java is19:29
PennycookIt's a scripting language that is used in lots of web pages.19:29
ActionParsnipso wheres the java bit come in19:31
ActionParsnipsurely the name is intelligent in some way19:31
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PennycookSomething to do with Sun, I think.  They changed the name to JavaScript at some point even though it's nothing to do with Java.19:32
ActionParsnipconfusing a little19:32
PennycookMm.  But anyway, we're a little off-topic.  I'd recommend Wikipedia if you want to learn more about it.19:33
ActionParsnipPennycook: ok, i removed the link to the plugin and youtube works fine19:34
ActionParsnipPennycook: im not that bothered, my rig does what its supposed to19:34
ActionParsnipgot firefox3 too, not really noticed a difference19:34
geniiActionParsnip: javascript is a convention Netscape used to have that became commonly adapted19:35
ActionParsnipwell netscape became mozilla19:37
geniiActionParsnip: Netscape Navigator was absorbed by AOL. But we become off-topic again.19:37
ActionParsnipwere always off topic it seems :)19:37
ActionParsnipare there any FF3 skins except the default?19:38
Assurbanipalhi, can somebody plz help me out with KDE19:39
Assurbanipal?19:39
Pennycook!ask | Assurbanipal19:40
ubottuAssurbanipal: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:40
Assurbanipali just installed it and lovin it...but still need help guys...19:40
Assurbanipali cannot enable advanced desktop effects19:40
Assurbanipalhow do i do it?19:40
TameLionK menu -> system settings -> desktop19:41
TameLionYou'll need to have installed accelerated graphics drivers first though19:41
Assurbanipali think this is done already19:41
TameLionThen you should be good :)19:41
Assurbanipalhow do i check it? because when i last tried to to it... the whole system crashed and i had to reinstal19:42
Assurbanipal:(19:42
Assurbanipalhow do i check if i am ready to enable it?19:43
TameLionwhich brand of graphics card do you have?19:44
Assurbanipalit is on my laptop, intel 94519:44
Assurbanipali had it workin just fine with gnome19:44
Assurbanipalbut i don't know how19:44
ActionParsnipgod its a compiz day today :(19:44
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: is it widescreen?19:45
TameLionActionParsnip: they're the worst :(19:45
TameLionheh19:45
Assurbanipalit is 12 inch19:45
TameLionAssurbanipal: did you install xserver-xorg-video-intel ?19:45
* TameLion needs food19:46
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: is it 16:8 or 4:3 screen19:46
Assurbanipalnow i didnt manualy install anything19:46
ActionParsnipTameLion: tell me about it19:46
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: is your screen widescreen??19:46
Assurbanipali don't know mate... i think so...19:46
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: you've seen normal tvs and normal tvs19:47
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: what make model is your laptop19:47
Assurbanipalit is lg lw25 pro express dual19:47
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ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: yes, its widescreen19:48
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: sudo apt-get install 915resolution19:48
Assurbanipalare u sure this is what i need?? the last failure scared me... i just finished setting up, don't wanna go back to a new instalation mate...19:49
ActionParsnipif it doesnt work you can uninstall it19:50
mitsarionasdoes anyone know about a "It is not possible to add files bigger than 4,0 GB:" problem in k3b?19:50
Assurbanipalok! i go for it now19:50
dwidmannmitsarionas: well, I think you have to force K3b to use the udf file system if you want huge file support19:51
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: no idea man, you got the latest updates?19:52
mitsarionasi'm almost sure it didn't have that problem some days ago19:52
mitsarionasyeah19:52
Assurbanipalok i did it... now what?19:52
Assurbanipalwhat's my next step19:52
Assurbanipal?19:52
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: let me search19:53
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: sudo 915resolution -l (ell, not eye)19:54
Assurbanipalok, and now?19:55
Assurbanipalshould i restart x?19:55
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: http://www.chillnite.com/galleries/using-915resolution-with-kubuntu19:55
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: folow that dude19:56
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: im, off to watch the game19:57
ActionParsnipAssurbanipal: search for you graphics card and put ubuntu after it19:58
ActionParsnipyu'll find what you need19:58
ActionParsnippeace out kids19:58
Assurbanipalis it ok that my graffics card is 945gm and i am usin 915 driver?19:59
geniiAssurbanipal: Yes.19:59
Assurbanipalshould i restart x now?19:59
mitsarionasfglrx 8.6 out!20:00
noaXessis firefox-3 qt based?20:01
noaXessqt4?20:01
mitsarionasgtk i think20:01
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noaXessthe look adn feel under kunbuntu is nor really cool with the default them.. is there any way to change that?20:05
Assurbanipalmate i already have the 1200x800 resolution that is mentioned in the tutorial20:06
Assurbanipalwhat should i do next to enable advanced effects?20:07
mitsarionasAssurbanipal: have you installed compiz through the desktop effects application?20:08
Assurbanipali think so...20:08
Assurbanipali went to system-desktop effects and then pressed the install buton20:09
mitsarionasand the previous time you chose standard effects or higher your system crashed?20:09
Assurbanipalyes20:10
Assurbanipalshit things don't go well mate!20:11
mitsarionas:(20:11
Assurbanipali disabled now the advanced effects option20:11
Assurbanipalok, what do i do?20:14
mitsarionasadvanced effects? where is that?20:14
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Assurbanipalsystem-desktop effects20:14
Assurbanipaldamn...20:15
Assurbanipalis there any way to do it?20:15
venikCan anyone tell me why the printer list appears empty to some applications but not to others?  OpenOffice is OK, but kPDF is not20:16
ivan_hi, how can i change my keyboards layout??20:20
venikCan anyone tell me why the printer list appears empty to some applications but not to others?  OpenOffice is OK, but kPDF is not20:23
ivan_how do i configurate my compiz settings??20:30
Assurbanipalthis is something i need to know too mate!20:30
alucardromero!compiz | ivan_20:31
ubottuivan_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:31
Duesentriebhi all. do you have a recommendation for a decent kde-based/compatible time tracking program? i want to be able to log on what i'm working when. karm doesn't cut it, and korganizer is overkill and inconvenient for this.20:32
Duesentriebany suggestions?20:32
ivan_#kubuntu-kde20:33
hotpocketI got nothing, sorry20:33
nightrowi have a problem on kubuntu : i had compiz handling window, and now that i deinstalled it, i don't have windows border anymore. How can i configure this ?20:34
Danger_XXXHi everybody20:34
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Danger_XXXToday I have installed Kubuntu for the first time)) Congratulate me)) now first problem I have encountered with --- How to install internal modem and dial-up connection20:36
hotpockethow would I remove a ubuntu partition?20:36
hotpocketim thinking of switching to suse or gentoo20:36
ivan_how can i change my keyboard layout20:37
FrauHansennightrow: try Alt+F2 and type "kwin --replace" [enter] or do the same command on konsole20:37
hotpocketivan: system/preferences/keyboard20:37
rafa_ola20:37
hotpocketand go to layouts20:37
nightrowFrauHansen: thanks, that did it20:38
szakulecI'm having trouble getting KGPG to create a non-1024 bit key20:38
weswh-you know the only utility kind of thing i feel i lack when I get into kubuntu, is a simple 'search' of a directory tree. is there a way to do this through command line? i just want to see every file under a given set of directories or subdirectories that has the file name "python" anything20:39
Danger_XXXplease help!!! SOS20:40
Danger_XXXInternal modem on Kubuntu20:40
venikCan anyone tell me why the printer list appears empty to some applications but not to others?  OpenOffice is OK, but kPDF and Ghostview are not...20:41
codsterI was wondering which one do i download from the following site: there is 2 download's if anyone can help? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KSmoothDock?content=658520:41
codsterone says 1.9 Auto Source and the other: Ubuntu (6.06 Kubuntu Binary)20:42
codsterDoes kubuntu Open up Deb files?20:44
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Stevenabhihi20:45
algyzcodster:  sure20:45
Stevenabanyone wanna help a nab out? :)20:45
algyzprbbly20:45
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Stevenabhaving some issues20:45
Stevenabor 1 to be precise20:46
codsteri have downloaded a Ksmoothdock and its 3.5.9 .deb? is that correct to use?20:47
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Stevenabcan i bother anyone? regarding my nvidia config20:47
FoxIIIStevenab, don't ask to ask.20:48
Stevenabi will shoot20:48
ivan_hi, on my first update im stuck in configurin new ssl-cert ive been there for almos an hour what it may be and what can i do??20:49
Mr_Pando u know a vpn client for hardy   ? ?20:49
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ivan_Mr_Pan, talking to me??20:50
Stevenabi've just installed ubantu, switched to kubantu straght after (prefered the look) installed nvidia drivers/nvidia-config and the resolution looks pretty piss poor tbh, am i missing something? i've got it mazed out but wont seem to go as far as it is capable of res wise20:50
Stevenab*kubuntu20:50
FoxIIIMr_Pan, Cisco have a vpn client which is for hardy.20:50
jussi01!fixres | Stevenab20:50
ubottuStevenab: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto20:50
Mr_Panivan_, no :D20:51
mitsarionasMr_Pan: you can use openvpn, and knetwormanager can be used as a frontend to it too20:51
Mr_Panok thank mitsarionas FoxIII20:51
mitsarionasnp20:51
Stevenab*reads* ty :)20:51
FoxIIIcodster, The current version of ksmoothdock is 4.5. Link here > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=658520:51
codsterokay20:52
jussi01Stevenab: hope ithelps :)20:52
Stevenabso do i :) dont like to harras here, been trawling the forums to no avail tho20:52
Stevenabi'll let you know how it goes :)20:52
codsterthis is the link i gave? i dont know which one to download20:52
Stevenabon a mission to get rid of dirteh windows :)20:52
codsterthere is 2 download links, and their both diffrent20:52
FoxIIIThat's what everyone is here for Stevenab :)20:53
Stevenabhehe20:53
Stevenabya, but i prefer to find the answer myself on forums, kinda gave in tho :)20:53
FoxIIIcodster, sec. I'll have a look for you.20:53
codsterSourccode 1.9automake and .Deb (6.06kubuntu)20:53
Stevenaboh, you mean to get rid of winblows20:53
Stevenablol20:53
codsterits confusing me on which one to get,20:53
Stevenabtoo tru20:53
codsterwindoze vist-duh,20:54
Stevenabhehe, had that installed for a whole week before i formatted20:54
Stevenabbloated poo that it is20:54
codsternothing against windows, i use it often. hasnt been a pain for me like what some say.20:54
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codsterXP that ism20:55
FoxIIIcodster, As it has an automake link there, I would check adept to see what version is in there. If the same version, get from there otherwise you will need to download the 1.9 version. You will need the 6.06 one for definite though.20:55
codsterso i need both?20:55
StevenabI generally get on well with xp, but i havnt actually done anything that would require me to use windows, so thought i'd make good use of the resourses of my pc, rather than windows hogging them :) might learn something too ;p20:55
hotpocketI'm so excited20:55
FoxIIII would guess so. I haven't tried installing this yet.20:55
Stevenabok, bbiab :)20:56
Stevenab /pitches tent20:56
codsterwell windows doesnt always hog you can configure it not too. and plus if you get SP3 it really speeds up your machine, i can run windows with just 256Megs of ram, and its still fast with CS2. but this is offtopic :(20:56
Stevenabhehe20:56
codsterFoxIII, how do search for it? i already tried Ksmooth and nothing comes up..20:57
FoxIIIcodster, I wouldn't think ksmoothdock will be in the repositories. You can search for the automake though. Go into adept and type automake in the search field.20:58
codsterokay,20:58
FoxIII!wireless21:00
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:00
codsterHas anyone ever see a monitor go Pink befor? just outta the blue? Mine is starting to do this, and i know of 2 people this happend to already..21:01
FoxIIIcodster, Do you have any speakers close to the monitor? Have you tried a deguazz?21:01
codsterJust goes straight pink, ruins all the colours in windows not soo much kubuntu, i find if you punch the monitor that it generally fixes this, but i can only take so much punching it is CRT btw.21:01
codsteryes21:01
codsterand no21:02
codsteri dont have speakers/did degauss21:02
FoxIIIhmm. Anything near that would be causing a magnetic field? Perhaps a mobile? Anything electric?21:02
codsterlol my knuckles hurt. but there must be a reason why CRT's do this?21:02
codsternope21:02
codsterwait my PC21:02
codsterthats the way my uncle and friend had theirs, PC tower beside the monitor, maybe its the HDD?21:03
codsterI thought maybe it was the heat?21:03
FoxIIIcodster, if it's right next to the monitor, then it could be the problem. Move it away from the monitor. I wouldn't say it was the heat. They should be able to deal with that.21:03
codsterokay21:03
codsterwell i just moved it now, it was bothering me.21:03
codsterit hasnt happend yet but over long periods of time, (usually when i have my tower on but PC  off) it fixes when i run a full screen program thats white background'd21:04
codsterpc=monitor sorry <--thought would be an oxymoron that i wrote.21:04
FoxIIInp. Let us know how you get on with that.21:05
codsterlol, well i have installed automake 1.921:05
codsterOnce i install Automake1.9 i can just download the Automake download? in the KDE-look.org link for Ksmoothdock.21:07
FoxIIIhmm. All: I have internet connection on windoze (obviously. I'm here), but not in kubuntu Hardy. How can I set up my wireless network without being able to download packages?21:08
FoxIIIcodster, I assume you mean that now you have installed automake, you can install ksmoothdock. If that's the case, then yes.21:08
codsterokay21:08
codsterjust the automake 1.9 link?21:08
codsteror the debian?21:08
FoxIIIcodster, no. You'll want the kubuntu 6.06 link.21:09
codsterohh okay21:09
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ActionParsniphey all21:11
ActionParsnipany vista skins for FF3?21:11
dimitrihi, how can i fix the volume keys on my laptop (HP Pavillion)? they were originally working when i did a install but i changed my keymaps & they lost their functionality... thanks21:11
FoxIIIActionParsnip, have you searched the firefox website?21:11
ActionParsnipFoxIII: indeed, only comes up with FF2 skins which dont work21:12
FoxIIIThen apart from a google search for the same, I would say not at the current time.21:12
ActionParsnipFoxIII: Ive seen loads of screenshots but no download21:12
ActionParsnipFoxIII: fair point, just wondered if anyone had one21:12
ActionParsnipdimitri: remap your keys dude21:12
FoxIIIah, k. That's cool.21:13
dimitriActionParsnip: how?21:13
codsterActionparsnip, i was looking for some Mac themes, but unfortantently they dont have any FF3 add-ons or themes yet :( i almost wanted to go back to FF2 lol, just have to wait...21:14
ActionParsnipdimitri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17201021:14
ActionParsnipcodster: yeah, its just a gloss, no biggy21:14
gbaconwhy is /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox reporting v2.0 in Help -> About?21:14
ActionParsnipcodster: I havent noticed any difference tbh but i dont really hammer my browser i guess21:15
codsteryeah same,21:15
dimitrithanks ActionParsnip21:15
codsteri hear it only uses 66% less resources then the current browser's like IE/Opera, not sure if that includes FF2?21:15
ActionParsnipcodster: check top while running it21:16
ActionParsniphttp://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=uk/1-0&fd=IG&url=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/18/mozilla_firefox_3_record/&cid=1222777888&ei=TGxZSN_GO4-2xAG_5fW-Dw&usg=AFQjCNFRep1sSOcK4DwNqj9q9nMqIeHUJA21:16
ActionParsnip^ Firefox 3 downloads hit 7m despite server FAIL - Register21:17
codsterlol21:17
codsterWOW21:17
Stevenabhai21:18
ActionParsnipis there a KDE equiv to conky?21:18
Stevenabany ideas if i should get chucked an error if my monitor does not support xresprobe?21:18
FoxIIIActionParsnip, you can use conky in kde21:20
ActionParsnipFoxIII: superkaramba is looking good :)21:20
codsterFoxIII, it brings me to sourceforge with Kubuntu.deb or Source.tar.gz ?21:21
codsteri dont think i can run debians in 8.04 it always opens with Ark21:21
FoxIIIcodster, the deb is the package. You only need the source code if you want to compile it yourself.21:22
codsteruhh, i cant complie21:22
codsterlol,21:22
FoxIIIcodster, I'm not on kubuntu at the min so I can't check about the deb. Don't worry. Compiling can be tricky.21:22
codsterso what do i do with the debian? befor with them i could just right click and install it, this one has no option21:22
tekteenanyone know how to find out what program is listening on a port? like port 80?21:23
grafthow come kubuntu is still so second-rate? I thought mark shuttleworth said he was going to make it a priority21:25
leftbasi'm having trouble installing realtime kernel21:25
FoxIIIcodster, I'll have a look for you, just need to prepare a few things first.21:26
FoxIII!kernel21:26
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages21:26
FoxIIIgraft, Not sure on that one, but everything takes time.21:26
leftbassecond rate, how?21:26
graftit's basically just unmodified KDE21:27
graftwhereas ubuntu has all sorts of neat hooks built into it21:27
graftplus the artwork is terrible21:27
leftbasmaybe slightly modified21:27
codsteryeah graft21:28
codsteri know what you mean21:28
graftfor example, in ubuntu i can apparently maintain hardy-proposed repositories just by ticking a box in 'software sources' in preferences21:28
graftin kubuntu i must vi /etc/apt/sources.list21:28
leftbaswhy not use synaptic, graft?21:29
codsterwell look @ the people who use Ubuntu there is thousands21:29
graftleftbas: well, i AM using KDE... plus that's not synaptic, that's the GNOME system prefs21:29
FoxIIIleftbas, In kubuntu there is adept package manager21:29
Pliskingraft, you have the same "software sources" with adept21:29
leftbasgraft: sorry, meant adept21:29
graftPliskin: have you used adept? it sucks. even the KDE devs say adept sucks21:30
Pliskinno, it's just different21:30
leftbasi agree, i rather like it21:30
codsterAdept?21:30
codsteri love adept lol21:30
codster:D21:30
Pliskinif you use to it, you'll love it21:30
graftdoubtful21:30
grafti've tried plenty21:30
Pliskincodster +121:30
codsterlol i never knew there was an atlernative21:30
codster:D21:30
leftbasi love the filtering capability21:30
graftanyway, even if i used adept, it wouldn't have a hook for hardy-proposed, since they never made one for it21:30
leftbasthere's used to be...kynaptic, but it's not very mature or well designed21:31
codsterman i couldnt imagine haveing the user named "21:31
codsterthe"21:31
codstershehs, there would be red text everywhere21:31
Pliskingraft, of course there is the option "proposed"21:31
leftbasis the rt kernel part of the unsupported repository?21:33
FoxIIIleftbas, rt?21:34
leftbasFoxIII: real-time21:34
leftbashaving trouble installing it, adept complains it's going to break something21:34
Pliskinthe unsopported is the Back-ports21:34
leftbasPliskin: but it shows up without unsupported being checked, it just won't install21:37
lakis1982hiii .. how do i adjust power settings in kubuntu ??? for example i want to set the computer going to sleep mode after 20 minutes ......21:37
codsteris AMD CPU 900Mhz 32bit still i386?21:37
codsterit is a AMD Duron :spitfire: p421:38
codsternot sure if its i386?21:38
leftbaslakis1982:21:38
FoxIIIlakis1982, You can get to the power settings in the same place where you change the screensaver.21:38
leftbaslakis1982: system settings21:39
davideamsn21:39
lakis1982where do i adjust screensaver?21:39
leftbasright-click on the desktop, and select configure desktop21:39
lakis1982i am on screensaver but it does not have any power settings21:40
FoxIIIlakis1982, try leftbas' suggestion. Go to system settings. What version of kde you running?21:40
leftbashe's right, i can't find it either now21:40
lakis1982kde 3.5.921:40
Pliskinleftbas : install what ?21:40
lakis1982im in system settings21:41
leftbasPliskin: the realtime kernel21:41
leftbaslakis1982: it's in the monitor and display settings21:41
Pliskinah, I have no idea, I was thinking you want use the "Proposed" Repo21:41
codsteri cant find out if my CPU supports or is i386?21:41
leftbasPliskin: thanks anyway21:41
codsteri read its an i68621:42
lakis1982im on monitor and siplay settings and then i go to power saving ?21:42
leftbasthat would be i386 compatible21:42
leftbaslakis1982: yes21:42
Stevenabsomeone be so kind as to link me that page again, just lost it21:42
FoxIIIlakis1982, yes. You will be able to control monitor and hard drive power savings.21:42
lakis1982in power saving there is only one setting .  to switch monitor off after some minutes21:43
lakis1982nothing else21:43
FoxIIIStevenab, which page?21:43
Stevenabhaving gfx issues21:43
FoxIII!nvidia21:43
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:43
Stevenabresolution and refresh rate etc21:43
Stevenabooh, diff page but ty :)21:43
FoxIIITry ubottu's link Stevenab21:43
leftbassounds like a hibernation setting. if your machine doesn't support it, it might not be an option21:43
Mr_Cheetois there anywhere i can get LInux help on the phone?21:43
graftokay, how do i enable proposed in adept?21:44
lakis1982so should i install something to be able change power settings?21:44
Mr_CheetoI need to know if there is anyone that I could call for Linux help21:44
lakis1982now theres only about monitor21:44
leftbasMr_Cheeto: try this link...21:44
leftbashttp://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/21:44
codsterFoxIII,how do i install that Debian package?21:44
FoxIIIcodster, I'm still trying to install kubuntu atm. I'll be there asap. :/21:45
codsterlol21:45
codsterokay21:45
codsterthrew VM?21:45
leftbaslakis1982: you might try installing kpowersave from adept21:45
FoxIIIyeah. Haven't had a spare minute to look at setting up wireless on my kubuntu partition.21:46
lakis1982hold on21:47
codsteri love firefox, how does it know what i look for?21:47
codsteri type in a local band, its already giving me their songs and covers21:47
codster:D21:47
leftbasgraft: i don't see that option. i didn't know it even existed, but it might be called something else in adept. not sure21:48
FoxIIIcodster, It bases it on database selection and popularity of words.21:48
FoxIIIleftbas, you should be able to do a search for power saving in adept.21:48
leftbasFoxIII: oh i found the power saving applet, i was referring to enabling 'propsed' in adept. i don't know how to do that21:49
lakis1982ok it has many settings but can i put kpowersave settings to exist into system settings ?21:49
leftbaslakis1982: i'm not sure21:49
leftbaslooks like it just runs in the system tray21:50
FoxIIIThis is very frustrating. Once I get into kde, I can hopefully help you all!21:50
leftbaslakis1982: but it has all the options you want, just access them by right-clicking the system tray icon, and selecting configure21:50
codsterlol foxIII, i just want a Macosx theme :D21:51
graftleftbas: i'm telling you, it ain't there... kubuntu is just second-rate21:51
leftbasgraft: that's a bit of a stretch, just cuz one thing is missing21:51
leftbasif you wanna start a flame war, graft, you've come to the wrong place21:52
FoxIII!etiquette21:52
ubottuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...21:52
graftleftbas: yeah, i don't want to start a flame war...21:52
Stevenabooh, much better ty :)21:52
leftbasgraft: glad to hear it21:52
leftbasno one else have any tips on installing the realtime kernel?21:53
FoxIII!customkernel21:54
codsterlast time i started a flamewar, we had to get a new sofa, mum wasnt that impressed21:54
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages21:54
leftbaslol @ codster21:54
bestpvpis there a apt-get for pureftpd?21:54
codsteris that an FTP client?21:55
FoxIIIbestpvp, have you tried?21:55
codsterbecause i need one for my Xbox21:55
dotbl0thi21:55
codsterso i can FTP to my Xbox, from PC21:55
bestpvpit's a server21:55
codsterI know of Filezille, CuteFTP21:55
codsterohh then thats not good for me..21:55
leftbasthanks ubottu, but the realtime kernel is already compiled...i have a problem with a dependancy that i can't figure out21:55
codsterlol your talking to a bot..21:55
FoxIIIWhat's the dependency problem leftbas ?21:56
dotbl0tanyone knows how to se gamma for xv output in mplayer/vlc it's too much brighter if compared to x11 output21:56
leftbassorry, meant that for FoxIII21:56
dotbl0t?21:56
FoxIII!ftp21:56
graftwhat happened to ubotu?21:56
ubottuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd21:56
leftbasFoxIII: there seems to be a discrepancy between versions...i want to install 2.6.24-18, but it tries to look for 2.6.24-17, so it gives up21:57
FoxIIIdotbl0t, perhaps try the vlc website.21:57
FrauHansendotbl0t: did you try the advanced interface in vlc?21:57
FoxIIIleftbas, what kernel version are you running now?21:58
leftbasFoxIII: 2.6.24-1921:58
FrauHansendotbl0t: there is a slider for gamma21:58
FoxIIIleftbas, So you are downgrading? Are you able to boot into a previous kernel setup?21:59
dotbl0tyes i tried it21:59
FrauHansendotbl0t: you can access it by Ctrl+G21:59
leftbasFoxIII: i was till i deleted them. 2.6.24-19 was working fine, so i deleted 24.12 and 24.1621:59
FrauHansendotbl0t: and it has no effect or what?21:59
dotbl0tanyway i cannot understand why xv output is too much bright by default both in vlc and mplayer22:00
dotbl0tcompared to x11 output22:00
dotbl0tthat seems to display correct color22:00
FrauHansenthats strange, indeed22:00
dotbl0tvery very strange22:01
FoxIIIleftbas, I bet you won't do that again will you? :) I'm afraid that I've reached the extent of my knowledge on kernels. I'm sure someone will be here soon though22:01
leftbasFoxIII: i think i might have figured it out, but the instructions i was following on an ubuntu page didn't work22:01
leftbasthat's fine, thanks...but it's not necessary to keep multiple kernel versions laying around, is it?22:01
leftbasFoxIII: isn't it just a waste of space?22:01
FoxIIIWhen I upgrade the kernel, I always keep the previous version there. It doesn't take up that much space.22:02
leftbasi was for a while, but like i said, since 19 was working fine, i got rid of 12 and 1622:02
graftyeh... housekeeping22:02
FrauHansendotbl0t: are you playing two videos at the same time?22:02
grafti keep one previous working kernel until i'm sure the current one is fine22:02
dotbl0tno no22:02
leftbasbut thanks anyway...i think i might have gotten 24.18 installed, so i'm gonna give 'er a reboot to see if i can select it from the grub menu22:03
leftbasciao for now22:03
FoxIIIlaters22:03
graftdotbl0t: you know you can adjust brightness via mplayer, right?22:03
codsterFoxIII, dont leave22:04
codsterhow do i open a Debian22:04
dotbl0tyes i know graft22:04
FoxIIINot going anywhere codster. Nearly in kubuntu now22:04
dotbl0tbut my question is not about that22:04
FrauHansendotbl0t: try playing two videos and see if its the same with the second one22:04
codsterokay22:04
codsterlol22:04
codster:D22:04
dotbl0tok i'll try frauhansen22:04
nysinI was waiting for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scons/+bug/226783 to be resolved - it now is, but though it says fix committed, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/scons still lists 0.97?22:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226783 in scons "Merge scons 0.98.5-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Fix released]22:05
graftwell if i recall, when x11 adjusts video it does it for the entire display, whereas xv does it only for the video window22:05
grafterr, adjusts brightness22:05
FoxIIIcodster, Do you want to go ahead and try your kernel bit. Just remembered I'm gonna have to update this thing first!22:06
codsteryeah22:07
codsterwhat is a kernel bit?22:07
FoxIIIcodster, sorry. Got a bit confused between you and someone else.22:07
codsteroh okay,22:07
dotbl0tooops the connection was closed22:11
dotbl0thowever if i try to play 2 videos at the same time22:12
dotbl0tmplayer says that's not able to open the video output22:12
dotbl0tso i can play only 1 video at time22:12
timthelionOMG kde 4 is like vista :O22:16
codsteryeah its slow and buggy22:16
codster:D22:16
timthelionhow do I bring up the k-menu?  Meta doesn't work?22:17
codsterand they might release 7 versions of it..22:17
codsternotsure22:17
timthelioncodster: it's OK, hasn't crashed yet, and it's fast on my admittedly overpowerd comp.22:17
codsterlol22:18
codsterspecs?22:18
timthelionbut it looks and acts like vista, it's kind of grose.22:18
engineervista ain't buggy22:18
FrauHansendotbl0t: have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-209986.html22:18
FrauHansenseem like the same problem dotbl0t22:19
timthelioncodster: It's actually a normal comp 2 gigs of ram, 3 gz cpu, and a fast sata hard drive.  The graphics are generic nvidia 5200fx, but when put next to my OLPC xo...22:19
codsterohh i see.22:19
codsternot bad.22:19
timthelionbut how do I bring up the k-menu with keyboard?22:20
FoxIIIYou could try setting the keymap to use the windoze key perhaps?22:20
timthelionFoxIII: That turned out to be problematic, there is no k-menu shortcut in the keyboard shortcuts window under settings.22:21
FoxIIIah. hmm22:21
codsterThey should build a PC sectrictly for Kubuntu or Ubuntu22:22
codsterScrew the windows K replace it with an Ubuntu Symbol22:23
codsterkey*22:23
codsterwow i cant spell?22:23
timthelionI'm trying to use this computer to catalogue and back up all my computer data.  I was hopping there was already software for making year based scrapbooks that get automatically backed up too.  But I might have to write my own...  I thought KDE would be a place to start because there are KDE programs like basket...22:23
timthelioncodster: not on a windoz keyboard you can't ;)22:24
dotbl0tthank you frauhansen22:25
dotbl0tlet's take a look22:25
dotbl0tdamn...22:25
dotbl0t*** ATTENTION MAINTENANCE ***22:25
dotbl0tThe forums are currently offline while we move our database to a larger disk.22:25
codsterthats the same with shipit ubuntu :(22:26
codsteri tried it yesterday they where offline :(22:26
dotbl0t:(22:27
dotbl0thowever i would like to ask you another question...22:27
FrauHansendotbl0t: i have the page still open, but i don#t see how you can profit from that22:28
dotbl0ti noticed that very often22:28
dotbl0t(k)ubuntu seems to freeze for about 30 seconds22:28
dotbl0ti can still move the mouse pointer22:29
dotbl0tthan it will resume to work normally22:29
codsterLiveCD?22:29
codsterlol22:29
dotbl0tno22:29
dotbl0t:D22:29
dotbl0tjust before resuming to work22:30
dotbl0tthe hd flashes22:30
FrauHansendotbl0t: here is the html -file of the forum =) : http://uploaded.to/?id=leyvci22:30
dotbl0tthanks frauhansen22:30
dotbl0tvery kind22:30
FrauHanseni hope it helps22:31
dotbl0tme too22:31
dotbl0t(however sorry if my english is bad, i'm italian)22:31
FoxIII!it22:31
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:31
FrauHansennite@all. good luck@ dotbl0t22:31
dotbl0tnite frau22:32
dotbl0tit seems he has the same videocard as me22:32
jasenhello kubuntu22:36
codsterHI i am Kubuntu, you will be seeing alot of me latley how are you jasen,22:37
codster:D22:37
jasenanybody here have any luck setting up a samba share from a vista64 pro to a 8.04?22:37
jasenlol22:38
jasenI tried the ZDnet instructions... but they return an error :)22:38
codsteri wish FoxIII, would be done kubuntu :D22:39
codsteri almost have a fully not so functional mac :D22:39
codsteranyone ever use Xlink Kai?22:40
jasensoo sad is me.... I have to keep my third pc with xp so I can move files :/22:40
FoxIIIcodster, I wish too. Network is *so* slow today for some reason.22:40
codsteryeah i know22:40
codsterit was for me too22:41
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codsteri upgraded from 7.04 to 8.0422:44
Stevenabhehe, got wow working22:50
Stevenabanyone got any decent fps tweaks before i go hunting ;p22:50
jasennooooo run from WoW22:51
Stevenabeh?22:51
Stevenabgawd i missed irc22:51
jasenit will swallow your soul\22:51
jasen:P22:51
Stevenabhaha, i got a mod that shouts that when my ss expires ;)22:51
jasenI played for 3 years....22:52
Stevenabi played for 1.522:52
jasenit was enough22:52
Stevenabtoo much already22:52
Stevenabaddicted22:52
jasenlol22:52
Stevenabtaking a step down tho22:52
Stevenabso thought id try linux :)22:52
judaxembrace your addictions!22:52
Stevenablol22:52
jasen(just started AoC)22:52
Stevenabi gave up smooking pot 6 months agop, now im an alcaholoc wow junkie ;p22:52
Stevenabooh. my pc would prob cry tho22:53
judaxI just bought that, have not logged in, but I will soon enough22:53
Stevenab2.2 dual core 2gb ram, would it work?22:53
jasendepends on your video card22:53
Stevenabhmmn22:53
jasenjust built a 3.0 dual with 4gb ram and a 9800gxt.... runs sweet22:53
Stevenablol, i'd have to open the case up to check22:53
judaxI have same setup, but with an 8800, have yet to try it22:54
Stevenabah, its an 860022:54
jasen8600 is sufficient22:55
Stevenabklkl22:55
jasennot sweet though22:55
Stevenabmeh, i'll cope ;p22:55
jasen:)22:55
Stevenab2 months ago it was a 5700 ;p22:55
Stevenabati22:55
Stevenabwow cried, lots22:56
jasenlol22:56
Stevenabmy processor also died22:56
Stevenab....lots22:56
Stevenabwas a bit of a random mish mash of bits22:56
Stevenabgot fed up and conned my wife one day22:56
Stevenabit worked a treat ^^22:56
jasenwhat did you have to surrender?22:57
Stevenabhaha, nuthhin22:57
Stevenabi own her ;p22:57
jasenlol...22:57
Stevenabshe had my child, shes mine now ;p22:57
Stevenabmy gawd, i feel clean, ditching windows n all22:58
Stevenabyou guys n gals linux pros?22:58
Stevenabanything i can ditch to speed things up generally,22:59
Stevenabi understand it's modular, but anythingf helps :)22:59
CortyHi22:59
Stevenabhihi23:00
geniie/me hands out coffees23:01
geniihmm23:01
* genii hands out coffees23:02
geniiBetter23:02
geniiStevenab: Kubuntu tends to work a lot faster without strigi if you have that installed.23:02
Stevenabooh, coffee is a change from merlot23:03
Stevenaboh, as my name suggest im a nab23:03
Stevenabhow would i check/disable that?23:04
Stevenabi'm up for a wow/surfing/irc stylee system with thrown in moosic :)23:04
jasennab?23:04
Stevenabnoob23:05
Stevenabbeginner :)23:05
jasennub23:05
jasenaah23:05
geniiStevenab: Add/Remove programs. Then type strigi  in the search pane. If it has a checkmark then it's installed23:05
geniino check = not installed23:05
Stevenabdisabled :) ty23:06
jasenGenii, have you any experience with vista/kubuntu shares?23:06
Stevenabi'm all for fps tbh23:06
geniijasen: I deal with samba quite a lot, yes.23:07
Stevenabspent about 3 hours trying to get my 22" gfx sorted today, cracking fun23:07
Stevenabalmost ran out of beer23:07
Stevenabpfft23:07
jasenlol23:07
geniijasen: You want linux share accessibly from windows or other way around?23:07
jasenfrom vista to linux...23:08
jasensmb4k doesn't work to vista23:08
jasenand I tried the zdnet instructions for mounting a vista share23:09
jasenbut I get an error message (connection refused) when I try23:09
javierpchola buenas tardes23:10
jasenhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=238   (the zdnet article)23:10
geniijasen: Vista wants a different version of the protocol by default than XP or 98 did. http://www.paulfarrow.com/archive/2007/05/14/accessing-vista-via-smbclient.aspx      shows you how to set it back to XP behaviour23:11
codsterFoxIII, did u get it working?23:12
jasentnx Genii... I will give it a shot :)23:12
jasenbrb23:12
codsteri have a perfect Mac OSX theme but stuck without the Dock :(23:13
codsteri dont know how to install debian packages23:13
FoxIIIcodster, Not yet. I'm still updating. Gonna have to leave it overnight! :(23:13
geniijasen: Also you may want to install smbfs package if you were tryig the way they suggest on that site23:13
javierpcalguien en español que desee platic ar23:14
FoxIII!es23:14
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:14
codsteruhh to slow, forme23:14
jasensmbfs is installed :)23:14
codsteri was just about to type it23:14
FoxIIIcodster, in konsole, move to the dir with the ksmoothdock package in and type: dpkg -i ksmoothdock.deb (or whatever the filename is) and see if that works23:16
codsterokay23:16
geniiWork needs me here on and off so if I seem unresponsive at first please have patience.23:17
codsterFoxIII, its on my Desktop23:17
codsterhow would it know it is there?23:17
FoxIIIcodster, when you are in konsole, type: cd Desktop and then: ls     This will bring up a list of what you have on your desktop. Then you can type: dpkg -i whatever.deb23:19
codsterit says no such file or directory23:19
codsterokay23:19
engineercd ~23:19
FoxIII!konsole23:19
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:19
engineercd Desktop && ls23:19
codsterokay23:19
engineerdpkg -i *.deb23:19
engineeror23:19
engineersudo dpkg -i /home/<user>/Desktop/*.deb23:20
codsterit worked withonly23:20
codsterthe one command23:20
codstersudo dpkg -i smoothdock.deb23:20
codsterand it unpacked and setting up"23:20
codsterand it brings me to a new line so i think i did it?23:21
codsterperfect :D23:21
codsterits working23:21
FoxIIIcodster, good. How are you running it? Through konsole or ALT-F2 ?23:22
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codsterkonsole?23:22
codsterits not looking to much like a mac thou23:23
codsterit looks like garbage :(23:23
engineerkxdock?23:23
engineertried that?23:23
codsterno ksmoothdock23:23
FoxIIIcodster, it could be just the settings.23:23
codsterit doesnt look anything like a mac23:23
FoxIIIcodster, I have to get off now, but you be here tomorrow? I can have a look tomorrow and try it out.23:24
codsteryeah23:24
codstersure23:24
FoxIIIcool.23:24
* FoxIII waves bye23:24
codster*how do you do that*23:25
codsterhello*23:25
_sourcemakerhow can I start a remote kde session via kde?23:25
_sourcemakerwith ssh...23:25
genii!freenx23:26
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX23:26
geniiAlso you can use X forwarding over ssh23:26
filo1234someone use irssi?23:27
wimpiesmy 'less' command in konsole no longer accepts PgUp or cursor keys under root (under regular user it does).  Why ?23:27
DanaKilhello :)23:29
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home__what nobody has problems with Kubuntu :D23:37
home__:D23:37
DanaKilme ! me !23:37
DanaKil:)23:37
home__lol23:37
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Dillizarwhats you problem23:38
Dillizar:D23:38
DanaKilhmm, are you able to compile anything related to plasma (ie plasmoids) with the 4.1 beta packages ?23:38
Dillizarplasma?23:39
DanaKilyep, you knows, the thing under your windows23:39
DanaKilit crashes when you click on it23:39
DanaKilsometimes23:39
DanaKil<___<23:39
Dillizardunno i use kde like 30% of the time :P23:40
DanaKiloh... you know this irc channel has a "k" in front of his name ?23:41
DanaKil:)23:41
Airforce5555could someone help me with my wifi problem23:41
bestpvpis there a apt-get for pureftpd?23:41
bestpvpor for proftpd?23:41
javier!fixresolution23:42
ubottuFactoid fixresolution not found23:42
javierhow doi fix the resolution??23:42
Airforce5555could someone help me with my wifi problem23:42
DanaKil yes for  "proftpd"23:43
nyuuhi23:43
javieri need another resolution this one is to big23:43
ErtainHello everyone.  I can't seem to get audio CDs to mount.  In the past they were recognized and mounted properly.  Yet lately they haven't worked.  I think this happened soon after upgrading to Hardy.  Any ideas?23:43
nyuuI want to turn a wav CD into different format for my mp3 player23:43
bestpvpah what do u use?23:43
nyuu??23:43
nyuudo you have any suggestions23:44
DanaKilnyuu> do you use KDE ?23:44
nyuuyea23:44
DanaKiljust type "media:/"23:44
geniik3b23:44
nyuuok23:44
nyuumedia:/23:44
DanaKilopen your CD and all is automatically converted in the CD folder23:44
nyuuow so sory ^^23:44
DanaKilor use k3b, indeed23:44
ErtainMy CD woes are that my CDs can't be read.23:45
bestpvpgnome23:45
ActionParsniphey all23:47
ActionParsnipI've downloaded a superkaramba theme23:47
ActionParsnipand I wanna modify it23:47
ActionParsnipis this possible at all??23:47
_CrashMaster_is ksynaptics depreciated? or gone?23:49
ActionParsnip_CrashMaster_: I think its just synaptic now dude23:52
javier#kubuntu-kde423:52
_CrashMaster_ActionParsnip: Not the package manager, the touchpad configerator.23:52
ActionParsnip_CrashMaster_: oh, no idea then duder23:53
nyuuhey23:53
lovrewhat rpg game would you recommend for linux23:53
nyuuthere is a problem with converting wav to mp323:53
lovrekubuntu23:53
Morsloknethack23:53
nyuuk3b gives error while turning into mp323:53
geniinyuu: You must have of course the codecs installed.23:53
nyuuI can play mp3 :S23:54
nyuubut cant convert...23:54
ActionParsniplovre: WoW ?23:54
nyuuit can turn to ogg without any problem but mp3...23:54
lovreActionParsnip: did i forget to mention free?23:54
geniinyuu: Try installing libk3b2-extracodecs           then try again23:55
nyuuok23:55
ActionParsnipnyuu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-323639.html23:55
ActionParsniplovre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games23:55
nyuuok23:56
lovreActionParsnip: ty23:58
ActionParsniplovre: np bro23:58

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