[00:38] <ethana2> You guys have got to be sick of people like me right now
[00:38] <ethana2> but any idea when alpha one is expected?
[00:41] <G_009> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-346.html    <---this link contains info on ibex
[00:42] <ethana2> thanks
[05:30] <baron1984> it's alive!!! it's alive!!! alive I tell you!!!!
[05:30] <baron1984> I had to yank packages from Intrepid and Debian Lenny, but I got Epiphany Webkit up and running
[05:47] <baron1984> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/525.1+) epiphany-browser
[05:48] <baron1984> this thing gives Firefox a beatdown
[05:57] <crdlb> fascinating
[05:59] <baron1984> I have a screenshot
[05:59] <baron1984> of a stack of tabs in Epiphany Webkit using less than 70 MB of RAM
[05:59] <baron1984> the same tabs in Firefox take up over 200
[06:00] <baron1984> I'm putting that on my website in a bit
[06:00] <baron1984> under the heading "Why is Ubuntu giving us this crap?"
[06:00] <crdlb> this is a support channel
[06:01] <baron1984> well, I know that Ubuntu must have something real personal against Epiphany Webkit
[06:01] <baron1984> cause it's a default part of the version of GNOME coming with Intrepid Ibex
[06:02] <baron1984> so they've gone out of their way to not grab it our of Debian
[06:02] <crdlb> what on earth are you talking about?
[06:02] <crdlb> Intrepid isn't _out_ yet
[06:02] <baron1984> yeah, but the package merge from Debian should be about there, correct?
[06:03] <crdlb> and gnome 2.24 will probably not be released with epiphany 2.24 unless a miracle occurs
[06:03] <baron1984> I say they're making money on Firefox somehow, down the river from Google
[06:03] <baron1984> and thats why they don't offer realistic alternatives
[06:04] <crdlb> if you wish to spread that theory, you are free to do so, but do not do it here
[06:46] <nickrud> rflol
[07:12] <DanaG> Argh, I can't use gnome-system-monitor -- it just segfaults
[07:12] <DanaG> #0  Gio::Mount::get_name (this=0x0) at mount.cc:387
[07:12] <DanaG> (everything else is "??" instead of line names and numbers.)
[07:18] <DanaG> How do I get a better backtrace?  There seems to be a lack of some of the relevant -dbg packages.
[10:00] <twager> Kubuntu icons ?
[10:02] <baron1984> Kubuntu......I never have understood why I get the image of the menacing Kudzu vine when I think of Kubuntu
[10:06] <twager> baron1984: I even worse I got no images in Kubuntu...Ubuntu is fine but Kubuntu a no-no
[10:08] <baron1984> Something has gone horribly wrong whenever I've tried to install a KDE distribution
[10:08] <baron1984> I think it's bad luck, or maybe it just doesn't like me
[10:12] <twager> Well...The hardy version was ok but when I tried the intrepid source the system booted to a blue screen with no icons
[10:13] <baron1984> sweet, it is becoming just like Ubuntu
[10:13] <baron1984> just not brown
[10:13] <baron1984> :P
[10:15] <twager> Think I might reinstall and see what happens, I have tried eveything else
[16:56] <peter_griffin> are there dailty builtds?
[17:04] <ethana2> baron1984: I look forward to seeing numbers from an automated test of the two browsers
[17:04] <ethana2> until then, firefox 3 is out, webkit epiphany is not
[17:18] <dump_> hi guys
[17:18] <dump_ass> he he
[17:19] <dump_ass> hi fuckersss
[17:40] <ethana2> !o4o | zenny
[17:40] <ethana2> oh wait
[17:40] <ethana2> gahh, I always do the wrong one
[17:40] <ethana2> !ohmy
[19:08] <bri-h> I'm having a strange problem with sound.  Can't get any from Totem, VLC, or Rhythmbox but it works fine playing a movie in RealPlayer11.  Any ideas?
[19:09] <bri-h> Oh, also no normal sounds at startup either
[20:21] <jpeirce> Is there any plan to include dmraid support in the installer in this release?
[20:21] <darthanubis> lol
[20:22] <jpeirce> Why is that lol?
[20:22] <darthanubis> its not practical to support a fake raid setup
[20:22] <darthanubis> during the install
[20:22] <jpeirce> how so?
[20:23] <darthanubis> because thats what one can use wubi for
[20:23] <darthanubis> if it is a must that one mainstains such a sad setup
[20:23] <jpeirce> Other distros do it, some in the past have allowed a boot option to activate dmraid support
[20:24] <darthanubis> well then one has options
[20:24] <jpeirce> Why can
[20:24] <darthanubis> you can do it from ubuntus cds as well
[20:24] <jpeirce> darthanubis: I know, i just set up 10 of the things at work for a stubborn customer
[20:24] <darthanubis> but its just not a option worth making a big deal about
[20:24] <jpeirce> triple boot with Fedora/openSuSe/Ubuntu
[20:25] <jpeirce> openSuse handled it, the others I had to spend way too much time on
[20:25] <darthanubis> dmraid for a fake windows raid is a pain
[20:25] <jpeirce> it shouldnt be too hard to set up automation
[20:26] <darthanubis> once people realize that there is no performance gain from that type of "raid" then it will be obsolete
[20:26] <darthanubis> better to focus on a REAL RAID
[20:26] <darthanubis> Hardware
[20:26] <jpeirce> darthanubis: except for when you want a windows/linux dual boot on the same raid
[20:26] <darthanubis> I know I know
[20:27] <jpeirce> the support they have now for fakeraid is ridiculous, the install takes about 3 reboots and bootstrapping then chrooting into the target system
[20:27] <darthanubis> see
[20:27] <darthanubis> PITA
[20:27] <jpeirce> then a manual grub install, manually setting up the network, manually editing fstab
[20:28] <darthanubis> :(
[20:28] <darthanubis> I'll pass
[20:28] <jpeirce> that would all be solved if they included just one dmraid package on the cd
[20:28] <jpeirce> and I could pass a boot option so that they could initialize my arrays on boot or something