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ethana2You guys have got to be sick of people like me right now00:38
ethana2but any idea when alpha one is expected?00:38
G_009http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-346.html    <---this link contains info on ibex00:41
ethana2thanks00:42
baron1984it's alive!!! it's alive!!! alive I tell you!!!!05:30
baron1984I had to yank packages from Intrepid and Debian Lenny, but I got Epiphany Webkit up and running05:30
baron1984Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/525.1+) epiphany-browser05:47
baron1984this thing gives Firefox a beatdown05:48
crdlbfascinating05:57
baron1984I have a screenshot05:59
baron1984of a stack of tabs in Epiphany Webkit using less than 70 MB of RAM05:59
baron1984the same tabs in Firefox take up over 20005:59
baron1984I'm putting that on my website in a bit06:00
baron1984under the heading "Why is Ubuntu giving us this crap?"06:00
crdlbthis is a support channel06:00
baron1984well, I know that Ubuntu must have something real personal against Epiphany Webkit06:01
baron1984cause it's a default part of the version of GNOME coming with Intrepid Ibex06:01
baron1984so they've gone out of their way to not grab it our of Debian06:02
crdlbwhat on earth are you talking about?06:02
crdlbIntrepid isn't _out_ yet06:02
baron1984yeah, but the package merge from Debian should be about there, correct?06:02
crdlband gnome 2.24 will probably not be released with epiphany 2.24 unless a miracle occurs06:03
baron1984I say they're making money on Firefox somehow, down the river from Google06:03
baron1984and thats why they don't offer realistic alternatives06:03
crdlbif you wish to spread that theory, you are free to do so, but do not do it here06:04
nickrudrflol06:46
DanaGArgh, I can't use gnome-system-monitor -- it just segfaults07:12
DanaG#0  Gio::Mount::get_name (this=0x0) at mount.cc:38707:12
DanaG(everything else is "??" instead of line names and numbers.)07:12
DanaGHow do I get a better backtrace?  There seems to be a lack of some of the relevant -dbg packages.07:18
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twagerKubuntu icons ?10:00
baron1984Kubuntu......I never have understood why I get the image of the menacing Kudzu vine when I think of Kubuntu10:02
twagerbaron1984: I even worse I got no images in Kubuntu...Ubuntu is fine but Kubuntu a no-no10:06
baron1984Something has gone horribly wrong whenever I've tried to install a KDE distribution10:08
baron1984I think it's bad luck, or maybe it just doesn't like me10:08
twagerWell...The hardy version was ok but when I tried the intrepid source the system booted to a blue screen with no icons10:12
baron1984sweet, it is becoming just like Ubuntu10:13
baron1984just not brown10:13
baron1984:P10:13
twagerThink I might reinstall and see what happens, I have tried eveything else10:15
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peter_griffinare there dailty builtds?16:56
ethana2baron1984: I look forward to seeing numbers from an automated test of the two browsers17:04
ethana2until then, firefox 3 is out, webkit epiphany is not17:04
dump_hi guys17:18
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dump_asshe he17:18
dump_asshi fuckersss17:19
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ethana2!o4o | zenny17:40
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ethana2oh wait17:40
ethana2gahh, I always do the wrong one17:40
ethana2!ohmy17:40
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:40
bri-hI'm having a strange problem with sound.  Can't get any from Totem, VLC, or Rhythmbox but it works fine playing a movie in RealPlayer11.  Any ideas?19:08
bri-hOh, also no normal sounds at startup either19:09
jpeirceIs there any plan to include dmraid support in the installer in this release?20:21
darthanubislol20:21
jpeirceWhy is that lol?20:22
darthanubisits not practical to support a fake raid setup20:22
darthanubisduring the install20:22
jpeircehow so?20:22
darthanubisbecause thats what one can use wubi for20:23
darthanubisif it is a must that one mainstains such a sad setup20:23
jpeirceOther distros do it, some in the past have allowed a boot option to activate dmraid support20:23
darthanubiswell then one has options20:24
jpeirceWhy can20:24
darthanubisyou can do it from ubuntus cds as well20:24
jpeircedarthanubis: I know, i just set up 10 of the things at work for a stubborn customer20:24
darthanubisbut its just not a option worth making a big deal about20:24
jpeircetriple boot with Fedora/openSuSe/Ubuntu20:24
jpeirceopenSuse handled it, the others I had to spend way too much time on20:25
darthanubisdmraid for a fake windows raid is a pain20:25
jpeirceit shouldnt be too hard to set up automation20:25
darthanubisonce people realize that there is no performance gain from that type of "raid" then it will be obsolete20:26
darthanubisbetter to focus on a REAL RAID20:26
darthanubisHardware20:26
jpeircedarthanubis: except for when you want a windows/linux dual boot on the same raid20:26
darthanubisI know I know20:26
jpeircethe support they have now for fakeraid is ridiculous, the install takes about 3 reboots and bootstrapping then chrooting into the target system20:27
darthanubissee20:27
darthanubisPITA20:27
jpeircethen a manual grub install, manually setting up the network, manually editing fstab20:27
darthanubis:(20:28
darthanubisI'll pass20:28
jpeircethat would all be solved if they included just one dmraid package on the cd20:28
jpeirceand I could pass a boot option so that they could initialize my arrays on boot or something20:28
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