[00:38] You guys have got to be sick of people like me right now [00:38] but any idea when alpha one is expected? [00:41] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-346.html <---this link contains info on ibex [00:42] thanks [05:30] it's alive!!! it's alive!!! alive I tell you!!!! [05:30] I had to yank packages from Intrepid and Debian Lenny, but I got Epiphany Webkit up and running [05:47] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.1+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/525.1+) epiphany-browser [05:48] this thing gives Firefox a beatdown [05:57] fascinating [05:59] I have a screenshot [05:59] of a stack of tabs in Epiphany Webkit using less than 70 MB of RAM [05:59] the same tabs in Firefox take up over 200 [06:00] I'm putting that on my website in a bit [06:00] under the heading "Why is Ubuntu giving us this crap?" [06:00] this is a support channel [06:01] well, I know that Ubuntu must have something real personal against Epiphany Webkit [06:01] cause it's a default part of the version of GNOME coming with Intrepid Ibex [06:02] so they've gone out of their way to not grab it our of Debian [06:02] what on earth are you talking about? [06:02] Intrepid isn't _out_ yet [06:02] yeah, but the package merge from Debian should be about there, correct? [06:03] and gnome 2.24 will probably not be released with epiphany 2.24 unless a miracle occurs [06:03] I say they're making money on Firefox somehow, down the river from Google [06:03] and thats why they don't offer realistic alternatives [06:04] if you wish to spread that theory, you are free to do so, but do not do it here [06:46] rflol [07:12] Argh, I can't use gnome-system-monitor -- it just segfaults [07:12] #0 Gio::Mount::get_name (this=0x0) at mount.cc:387 [07:12] (everything else is "??" instead of line names and numbers.) [07:18] How do I get a better backtrace? There seems to be a lack of some of the relevant -dbg packages. === bluefoxx is now known as bluefox|sleeping [10:00] Kubuntu icons ? [10:02] Kubuntu......I never have understood why I get the image of the menacing Kudzu vine when I think of Kubuntu [10:06] baron1984: I even worse I got no images in Kubuntu...Ubuntu is fine but Kubuntu a no-no [10:08] Something has gone horribly wrong whenever I've tried to install a KDE distribution [10:08] I think it's bad luck, or maybe it just doesn't like me [10:12] Well...The hardy version was ok but when I tried the intrepid source the system booted to a blue screen with no icons [10:13] sweet, it is becoming just like Ubuntu [10:13] just not brown [10:13] :P [10:15] Think I might reinstall and see what happens, I have tried eveything else === potty is now known as peter_griffin [16:56] are there dailty builtds? [17:04] baron1984: I look forward to seeing numbers from an automated test of the two browsers [17:04] until then, firefox 3 is out, webkit epiphany is not [17:18] hi guys === dump_ is now known as dump_ass [17:18] he he [17:19] hi fuckersss === dump_ass is now known as zenny [17:40] !o4o | zenny [17:40] zenny: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu+1. Controversial topics, which always turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) [17:40] oh wait [17:40] gahh, I always do the wrong one [17:40] !ohmy [17:40] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [19:08] I'm having a strange problem with sound. Can't get any from Totem, VLC, or Rhythmbox but it works fine playing a movie in RealPlayer11. Any ideas? [19:09] Oh, also no normal sounds at startup either [20:21] Is there any plan to include dmraid support in the installer in this release? [20:21] lol [20:22] Why is that lol? [20:22] its not practical to support a fake raid setup [20:22] during the install [20:22] how so? [20:23] because thats what one can use wubi for [20:23] if it is a must that one mainstains such a sad setup [20:23] Other distros do it, some in the past have allowed a boot option to activate dmraid support [20:24] well then one has options [20:24] Why can [20:24] you can do it from ubuntus cds as well [20:24] darthanubis: I know, i just set up 10 of the things at work for a stubborn customer [20:24] but its just not a option worth making a big deal about [20:24] triple boot with Fedora/openSuSe/Ubuntu [20:25] openSuse handled it, the others I had to spend way too much time on [20:25] dmraid for a fake windows raid is a pain [20:25] it shouldnt be too hard to set up automation [20:26] once people realize that there is no performance gain from that type of "raid" then it will be obsolete [20:26] better to focus on a REAL RAID [20:26] Hardware [20:26] darthanubis: except for when you want a windows/linux dual boot on the same raid [20:26] I know I know [20:27] the support they have now for fakeraid is ridiculous, the install takes about 3 reboots and bootstrapping then chrooting into the target system [20:27] see [20:27] PITA [20:27] then a manual grub install, manually setting up the network, manually editing fstab [20:28] :( [20:28] I'll pass [20:28] that would all be solved if they included just one dmraid package on the cd [20:28] and I could pass a boot option so that they could initialize my arrays on boot or something === knix is now known as lollongwords === lollongwords is now known as knix