[01:24] Argument "27ubuntu13" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at /usr/bin/bts line 3039. [01:24] hrm... === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Regenerate your SSH keys! http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2 | Ubuntu 8.04 LTS released! | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Regenerate your SSH keys! http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-2 | Ubuntu 8.04 LTS released! | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [05:20] owch. something in udev or lvm has regressed -- uuids aren't being picked up for my lvm partitions any more. [05:21] kees: Is this intrepid? [05:22] TheMuso: yeah, I haven't tracked it down. I just rebooted before dinner, and I'll probably go digging tomorrow morning. [05:23] the new timeout (30s) worked, though. :) [05:23] it's really odd... lvm started fine, just none of the /dev/disk/by-uuid links were created [05:24] even after a udevadm trigger [05:24] in fact, it's still that way, even outside of the initramfs so hopefully this should be easy to find. :) [05:26] ouch [05:26] * Hobbsee cheers, for more non-free software off her computer [05:26] Hobbsee: oooh, what'd you eliminate? [05:26] Hobbsee: What did you purge? [05:27] kees: adobe reader. [05:27] whoa, didn't that go away in edgy? :P [05:27] * Hobbsee doesn't have to use pdf's which require user input anymore. [05:27] ah-ha! [05:27] sure, so i had to install it locally, for the last couple of years. [05:29] TheMuso: hmmmm... something is causing 65-dmsetup.rules not to run (I can see due to the wrong blockdev --getra settings [05:32] TheMuso: ah-ha. [05:32] TheMuso: DM_TARGET_TYPES doesn't seem to exist any more [05:32] ah [05:33] sudo /sbin/dmsetup export -j254 -m11 [05:33] lovely [05:33] so it sees it as an empty target and skips it [06:08] TheMuso: I lied -- I didn't wait until tomorrow morning. ;) Fixed version uploading shortly... [06:08] kees: heh [06:18] morning guys [06:21] hey fabbione [06:21] morning Hobbsee [06:22] Hobbsee: how is life down under? [06:23] * cody-somerville waves. [06:30] hey fabbione [06:30] fabbione: good - finished exams for the semester :D [06:30] fabbione: so, not kicked out of the soccer championship yet :) [06:31] hey pitti [06:32] Hobbsee: congratulation [06:32] pitti: nope.. not yet :))))) [06:32] pitti: just waiting for seb128 to shake his hand today :P === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [06:53] 5~/c [07:01] good morning [07:02] hey dholbach [07:02] dholbach! [07:02] hi ccm, hi Hobbsee [07:03] dholbach: they really acceppted my pidgin-otr patch upstream yesterday :) [07:03] ccm: in Debian? [07:03] dholbach: my first real patch :) [07:03] * dholbach hugs ccm [07:03] dholbach: in pidgin-otr directly, debian waits for them as they are also informed [07:03] good work! :) [07:03] ah great [07:04] i told nobody that i never wrote c code before :) [07:04] * Hobbsee is so not liking the fact that flash keeps crashing her firefox. [07:05] ccm: hehe - that reminds me of mvo telling me after he wrote some of my first C code "maybe you should read the chapter about pointers again" ;-) [07:05] dholbach: i was just looking for you [07:05] dholbach: i'm packaging a library [07:05] dholbach: and it has 2 libraries on the source [07:05] like it ships with this libraries [07:05] nxvl: both with different sonames? [07:06] should i remove them from the orig.tar.gz and link them as build-dep? [07:06] eh? [07:06] i have [07:06] inside the code [07:06] what does "has 2 libraries on the source" mean? [07:06] a dir called "gnulib" [07:06] you mean it ships with the code of two build-deps? [07:06] inside it there is "lib m4 tests [07:07] yep [07:07] something like that [07:07] those are 2 gnu libs [07:07] in that case that makes sense - best to document what you need to do generate your orig tarball [07:07] well, i think is just one [07:08] I guess you'll need to remove the dir, change Makefile.am and run automake/autoconf again [07:08] but it also build the tests, don't know why [07:08] also I'd talk to upstream [07:08] yes, that i will at weekend [07:08] did you check if there's a configure option to build with external libraries? [07:08] after i finish my tests [07:08] nop [07:08] if not, upstream should add it [07:08] just playing from now on [07:09] i also tried to check at the src.rpm package [07:09] but it's a mess [07:09] sometimes you can pass something like --libdb-dir=/usr/share/include/something to let it build with an external library (provided by the distribution) [07:09] in that case you wouldn't have to repack the tarball [07:10] but i don't find useful to have a library using bites in the orig.tar.gz without any reason [07:10] I agree - it's definitely something to ping upstream about [07:10] i will send them an e-mail [07:11] excellent [07:11] what project is it? [07:12] augeas [07:12] http://augeas.net [07:13] ah right - there was something in the server team meeting about it, right? [07:14] yup [07:14] and i'm taking care of it [07:14] * dholbach hugs nxvl [07:14] keep up the good work! [07:14] * nxvl HUGS dholbach back [07:14] btw [07:15] on Friday i show your packaging101 video [07:15] it was cool for a quick introduction [07:16] then when i explain everything in more detail and do all the work with them they understand quicker [07:16] great - I'm very happy it was useful to you [07:16] yes, it was great since i use ed to :D [07:17] i will use it from now on [07:17] hehe [07:17] Does anyone know how I can find out whats on the other side of a socket? [07:17] and it seems i have a lot of Packaging Jams comming in the short time [07:17] :D [07:17] cody-somerville: as in? [07:17] really? where are you going to run them? [07:18] i'm running some workshops on my university [07:18] nxvl, like, I see process has fd X open and it is a socket [07:18] every Friday i think [07:18] nxvl, how do I see what is on the other end of the socket? [07:18] last one was about packaging 101 [07:18] this friday i will patch some bitsize [07:18] nxvl: great [07:18] next saturday (i thin) i'm going to other university to run one [07:19] nxvl: I'm so happy to see South America kicking arse like that [07:19] cody-somerville: oh! as in that, don't know, sorry [07:19] dholbach: my goal is to have at least 5 people involved for end of year [07:19] if you look at the GlobalBugJam page, most Bug Jams look like they're happening in South America :) [07:20] ROCK! :) [07:20] * dholbach hugs nxvl [07:20] cody-somerville: netstat? [07:20] yea, netstat [07:21] pwnguin, Isn't that only for network sockets? [07:21] you should try it on a desktop real quick and look [07:22] interesting [07:22] UNIX sockets are sockets too [07:22] does the I-Node correspond to the number given by looking at where the fd links to? [07:23] it should [07:23] i mean, that's how I'd write it [07:23] but thats not always a good way to reason about things ;) [07:24] hmm.. [07:24] * nxvl HUGS dholbach back [07:24] :) [07:24] It doesn't seem to give me anything useful though [07:24] dholbach: there is already one on his way to motu [07:25] pwnguin, If I see that an application is hanging waiting for activity on fd which is a socket, whats the best way to debug? [07:25] dholbach: Roaksoax [07:26] ah great [07:26] dholbach: also i have 2 people saying they will start some day [07:26] but i don't belive them anymore [07:26] cody-somerville: you might want to file a bug against the manpage [07:26] i hope that in the GBJ more people come into the project [07:26] for netstat [07:26] it's not done =( [07:26] it is a really good way to teach people the full process of a bug report and how to contribute [07:27] :D [07:27] * cody-somerville narrows eyes. [07:27] and since i'm getting out of time because of the work i will need to focus on recluting some people, didn't i? [07:27] cody-somerville: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~beej/guide/ipc/ === hunger_t is now known as hunger [07:29] ok, now time for bed [07:29] see you later [07:29] sleep tight [07:29] thanks! [07:29] pwnguin, Although that looks like a good guide to using unix sockets pragmatically, it is lacking on debugging of said applications. [07:30] doh [07:31] ok, well this is a bit hamhanded, but you could strace one side of it [07:35] I did strace it [07:35] and it told me that it was hanging on fd 13 which is a socket [07:36] so what's on the other side of it? [07:37] Thats what I'm trying to figure out :) [07:37] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/232364 for details [07:37] Launchpad bug 232364 in dbus "dbus-launch freezes for unknown reason at session start" [High,Confirmed] [07:37] hmm. that sounds like a bug i'd like fixed [07:38] same here :) [07:49] * pitti hugs kees for his devmapper fix; I think that fixes bug 238793? [07:49] Launchpad bug 238793 in devmapper "[Intrepid] boot failure: by-uuid symlinks not created" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238793 [07:49] kees: thanks for cleaning up after me [08:00] cody-somerville: ok. so after reviewing the internet literature, inodes are unique per connection, and the file is the name space === mpt_ is now known as mpt [08:02] cody-somerville: wait, how is this guy running 2.6.26? [08:05] pwnguin, maybe it is a typo [08:06] I experience the issue too and I'm using the vanilla ubuntu kernel so that can't be it [08:07] you dont typo -rc3 but you're right, it's got dupes so that's probably not it [08:10] cody-somerville: so lsof gives an inode. use that to find the file name with "netstat | grep $fid", then "netstat --programs | grep $filename" [08:11] pwnguin, Okay. I'll do that the next time it freezes. [08:12] good luck! [08:12] Considering the backtrace, would it not be safe to assume though that it is the bilateral connection to the X server consider what dbus-launch --exit-with-session does? [08:17] Interesting. [08:18] cody-somerville: im afraid im not qualified to understand half of that question [08:19] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/dbus/main/revision/1652 [08:19] Could passing an int when a long is expected cause the crash? :/ [08:19] * fabbione hugs seb128 [08:20] hey fabbione, is that because of the football game yesterday? ;-) [08:20] indeed :) [08:20] i was just waiting for you ;) [08:21] hehe [08:21] can't always win ;-) [08:21] cody-somerville: that diff is too big =( [08:21] oh i know.. it will be our turn sooner or later [08:21] I've been impressed by how netherland has been playing, let's see what they do next ;-) [08:21] pwnguin, very bottom [08:21] but the feeling of "twice in a raw" between World Champion and EU cup... is GOOD! :P [08:24] cody-somerville: i guess you're bisecting it? [08:26] It is freezing when opening the connection to the xserver, [08:28] i think this is a race [08:31] im not sure what happens if a message is sent before dbus-launcher has connected [08:39] the number of race condition bug reports in dbus bugzilla is not endearing [08:40] pwnguin, join #xfce-dev [08:40] please :) [08:49] hi [08:50] i'm working with the ubuntu hardy proposed webinstaller. i've got many problems with the client installation. at the package installation the downloading of a random package often fails with "400 Host Header missing" [08:50] is this a known bug? [08:51] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21096/ thats the syslog [08:53] Broken server at http://10.255.255.250/? [08:54] ion_: that would mean that apt-cacher is broken.. [08:55] (verifying this is my next step, but this would be really strange) [09:03] hm, not it seems to work after manually starting the cleanup script. i'll fill a bug report, bye [09:04] pitti: did you check if the new dhcp3-server-ldap package actually works? I had some minor problems with that package installed from debian testing a while ago [09:05] pitti: it lacked a directory in IIRC /var/lib [09:05] (yeah I should have filed a bug report in debian :P) [09:15] dendrobates: ping? [09:15] fabbione: hey. [09:16] hey dude [09:16] got a minute? [09:16] fabbione: for you, of course. [09:16] ehehe :) [09:16] dendrobates: http://www.redhat.com/archives/cluster-devel/2008-June/msg00116.html [09:16] dendrobates: ^^ maybe somebody in the server team might be interested [09:17] fabbione: where will it be held? [09:17] dendrobates: like it's writted down in the email.. depends from the list of participants [09:18] pwnguin, are you coming back? [09:18] dendrobates: we will calculate the center of the universe for the devels that will be there and then decide a location [09:18] nope [09:18] dendrobates: dates maybe August or from mid-Sept to end-Oct [09:18] that got outta my league fast [09:18] dendrobates: depending on venues availability [09:18] pwnguin, but we're making progress :) [09:18] dendrobates: but mostlikely US... exactly where i can't say [09:18] * cody-somerville is way way out of his league too ;] [09:19] fabbione: ok, I'll discuss it with the team. [09:19] dendrobates: ok cool. [09:19] cody-somerville: 80 percent of development is reading code. i suggest finding people who've already read the code and ask their opinions [09:19] * cody-somerville nods. [09:45] Chipzz: actually no, I don't have an ldap setup; however, -ldap just diverts the binary from -server === asac_ is now known as asac [10:37] mvo: ping on bug #220890; should this get uploaded to hardy-proposed? [10:37] Launchpad bug 220890 in software-properties "[hardy] software-properties-gtk doesn't recognize (nor know about) ports.ubuntu.com" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220890 [10:44] slangasek: I would rather want to have it tested first, but if there is no ppc available, then -proposed is the only option [10:58] pwnguin, btw, does dbus-launch --exit-with-session run for you in gnome? [10:58] It isn't for me. [11:00] im trying to build 2 deb packages, when running dpkg-buildpackage on the second, i get the error "dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: no dependency information found for ". i've tried making a postinst file on the first deb to run ldconfig, and i've tried making the first deb via checkinstall, but neither method worked. [11:02] * Hobbsee wonders who broke the intrepid mimetypes. [11:05] unless i'ts somehow pebkac. [11:05] seems that one program will try to open all files now. [11:12] Tim20: are the two binary packages built from a single source package? [11:12] anyone here using PostgreSQL? I need some testing feedback in bug 238587 [11:12] Launchpad bug 238587 in postgresql-8.3 "PostgreSQL bug fix releases 8.3.3/8.2.9/8.1.13" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238587 [11:13] I tested them myself thoroughly, so I think they are good, but for SRU I need a second "thumbs up" [11:13] cjwatson, no, and one is a single lib package [11:14] may have fixed it, just rebuilding them now. cross fingers. :) [11:33] pitti: you don't need an actual ldap setup to test it; traditional config file will work too [11:35] or rather, break when it finds that directory doesn't exist [11:36] Chipzz: ah, is that Debian bug 484424? [11:36] Debian bug 484424 in dhcp3-server-ldap "Can't open lease database /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases: No such file or directory" [Unknown,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/484424 [11:37] pitti: yeah [11:37] pitti: I suspect it's missing a configure option to specify the correct dir? [11:38] I guess so, yes [11:44] pitti: hrrrm, just took a look at the build log; apparently no such option is passed to either build? [11:45] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15370081/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.dhcp3_3.1.1-1ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [11:49] seb128: are you currently working on a gdm merge? [11:49] seb128: I wonder whether I should apply lifeless' small patch in bug 234101 now, or just ask you to include it [11:49] Launchpad bug 234101 in gdm "Support latin locale" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234101 [11:49] pitti: as said before there is no merge required, we need to package the rewrite [11:50] pitti: feel free to upload that if you want, packaging the new gdm will take some time [11:50] ok [11:50] especially that I don't know what to do about the configuration [11:50] it moved from a text file to gconf and don't have the same option [11:50] and there is no migration code [11:50] I'm wondering if we should attempt to write one [11:51] gconf? [11:51] oh, right. gdm user [11:52] seb128: is that the file gdmconfig writes? [11:52] in this case it would be nice indeed [11:52] pitti: yes [11:52] bummer [11:52] would be nice but it'll not be trivial [11:52] especially that some of the option don't exit in the new code [11:53] s/exit/exist [11:53] right, was just going to say [11:53] no need to handle options which can't be sensibly mapped to the new code [12:09] morning [12:19] hi Riddell! Now that I got the samba update out the door, I have (finally) moved my focus to chmlib. kees and I will talk about libzip too [12:21] jdstrand: I'm holding my breath! [12:21] heh [12:23] /win 24 [12:25] morning dendrobates === devfil_ is now known as devfil [12:57] slangasek: did you want to look into https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnuplot/+bug/195111 ? Looks like it needs demoting to multiverse. [12:57] Launchpad bug 195111 in gnuplot "gnuplot is not GNU and not free Software" [Critical,Confirmed] [12:59] Hobbsee: the requirement to distribute as patches is explicitly allowed by http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/licensing [12:59] which other part of that is non-free? [13:02] cjwatson: oh, my error. === ryu2 is now known as ryu [13:03] the only bit flagged by debian-legal as potentially awkward was the contact identification thing, which could be read to prohibit anonymous modifications (although I don't buy that inference) [13:04] happy to have a second opinion, but I think it's fre [13:04] e [13:04] cjwatson: can i yoink your comments, and mark as invalid? [13:04] (and indeed I think there *should* be a second opinion) [13:05] iff you have thought about my arguments and agree with them :-) [13:05] cjwatson: oh, i see your arguments. my brain is just somewhat still fried by the maths this morning. [13:36] pitti, you did a lot of the work on avahi, right? [13:38] cjwatson, are we able to move the Xubuntu seeds yet? [13:49] cody-somerville: not that much actually [13:49] pitti, would it be safe to set the avahi stuff as recommends in the seeds? [13:49] cody-somerville: which 'stuff'? [13:50] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/192258 [13:50] Launchpad bug 192258 in xubuntu-meta "avahi should be downgraded to Suggests dependency" [Undecided,New] [13:52] cody-somerville: ugh, long vehicle [13:53] cody-somerville: I didn't find an actual reason why it shouldn't be installed by default, though? [13:54] pitti, I just want to allow the guy to be able to uninstall it w/o having to remove xubuntu-desktop [13:54] cody-somerville: suggests in metapackages do not make sense; downgrading to recommends is doable, of course, and should be done, so that people can uninstall avahi if they want to [13:54] * cody-somerville nods. [13:54] My thinking exactly. [13:55] cody-somerville: but I would heavily object to dropping it altogether [13:55] stuff like nss-mdns is soo useful, and not a security threat at all [13:55] * cody-somerville nods. [13:55] I just wanted to make sure it is safe to set it as a recommend :) [13:55] cody-somerville: I'll comment on the bug [13:56] Ok [13:56] * ogra_cmpc thinks the only problem avahi really has is lots of people not really knowing anything about it and spreading FUD [13:57] i havre run in so obscure arguments in discusssions already :) [13:57] cody-somerville: so we need to run two identical branches in parallel for a while, until we get the LP code change made [13:58] cody-somerville: just push the usual branch to wherever the new location ought to be *as well* [13:58] cjwatson, okay. [13:58] cody-somerville: and, for a while, you'll need to remember to push to both places [13:58] cjwatson, I can't push to core-dev [13:58] well, push to the new location and get somebody to pull from there to core-dev, then [13:59] which team were you going to use for the new seeds? I think I'd recommend just xubuntu-dev [13:59] ideally it ought to match the set of people you'd like to be able to upload Xubuntu packages in general (in the as-yet-unimplemented new world order) [14:00] * cody-somerville nods. [14:04] <\sh> pitti: will you kill me, when I ask you to add libnspr* to ia32-libs? ,-> [14:06] cody-somerville: answered [14:07] \sh: ugh? [14:07] hey doko [14:08] doko: do you plan to do a subversion upload to intrepid soon? [14:08] seb128: no, not this week. is 1.5 released? [14:09] doko: no, but it creates installability issues in intrepid [14:09] it needs a rebuild [14:10] doko: gicmo would like to be able to use git-svn again to be able to commit fixes to GNOME ;-) [14:10] hey everyone, I have noticed a problem with openexr. With the release of openexr 1.6.1, upstream has seperated out some of the code into a package called ilmbase. Ilmbase has been auto-synced but it is in universe. Openexr has been modified in debian unstable to reflect the dependancy change but now would depend on a package in universe. Suggestions on how to handle this? Also, is there any documentation I can read about handleing library tra [14:10] nsitions? [14:11] I should note that openexr1.6.1 is held up in a merge (though I think it could be a sync) [14:13] seb128: I'll see what I can do [14:13] doko: thanks [14:13] doko, you are listed as the last uploader for openexr, do you have any ideas? [14:13] rexium: ideas about what? [14:14] doko, Openexr, have a look at the scrollback [14:15] rexium: please file a MIR for ilmbase, and then a sync request (or propose a merge in a bug report) [14:15] ok [14:16] dendrobates: take a look http://en.emanuele-gentili.com/index.php/2008/06/18/rapache-02-1-alpha-packaged/ [14:19] emgent: ok, [14:20] dendrobates: now work only in local, in stage-3 i will add ssh support for remote managing. [14:20] mvo: an update of compiz wants to remove compizconfig-backend-gconf, is that ok? [14:20] emgent: it looks interesting, I'll install it and see what I think. [14:21] gicmo: you should rather wait for this one to build [14:21] oh [14:21] ;-) [14:22] I realized that updating would work anyways due to dependency issues [14:22] wouldn't? [14:22] exactly [14:23] gicmo: hm, I need to check that, it sounds like one of the dependencies is not updated correctly - thanks for letting me know [14:23] gicmo: wait a sec with the compiz update first please [14:23] mvo: sure [14:23] until the new compizconfig-backend-gconf is build [14:25] ok [14:29] dendrobates: ok thanks, i'm thinking to possiility to add rapache in intrepid (stable version) [14:29] s/possiility/possibility/ [14:31] <\sh> pitti: I've been playing with Adobe Flash Media Server...and it needs libnspr* in i386 mode :) [14:31] <\sh> pitti: and some symlinks to simple .so links to the libs :) so that it can run properly...could be needed for the server flavour and gives RHEL a good clap [14:50] hello, i would like to know if System > Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts is ubuntu specific or if it's just a gnome feature [14:51] the reason why i'm asking is because shortcuts are associated with keycodes but the keycodes don't have keysym attached [14:51] so querying the keyboard mapping through xlib returns keycodes that are apparently unused but this is not the case in fact since they trigger global shortcuts [14:53] doko, fyi, I have filed the MIR [14:58] greedo: I believe it's a GNOME thing === nenolod_ is now known as laptopnenolod [15:02] mterry: ok, well on #gnome-hackers they told me it's an ubuntu thing :) [15:07] greedo: Then they must be right. :) === persia_ is now known as persia [15:41] pitti: hi can you accept the samba sitting in proposed? thanks [16:09] zul: please talk to slangasek now, since we are frozen for .1 [16:09] pitti: okies I will thanks [17:01] pitti: ah! I hadn't found the LP bug for the dmsetup uuid breakage. no problem -- certainly not your fault, debian reduced the "export" patch for some reason. [17:02] kees: well, I should have tested it better before upload; but I didn't actually test it with root-on-raid *brown paperbag* [17:04] if i've run into an issue with the installation cd for ubuntu-server - what package would i file that bug against? [17:04] anybody with some knowledge about consolekit... who might know where the binary ck-get-x11-display-device should come from? [17:04] jetsaredim, At what point did the install problem occur? [17:04] cody-somerville: two places [17:04] MacSlow: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ck-get-x11-display-device&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any [17:05] MacSlow: "locate ck-get-x11", too [17:05] first - failed to detect cdrom drive so I had to get to the shell and modprobe ide_generic [17:05] pitti, ah... forgot about the handy tool locate... thanks! [17:05] pitti: heh. well, it still may not have shown up without UUID-based lvm mounts (many people mount via the /dev/mapper name). regardless, it was fun to use my udev debugging skills. :) [17:05] second - during the disk wizard the / partition was not marked as bootable [17:05] pitti: dlocate rather if you are searching which package is providing the binary [17:06] third (did I say two?) - after the install the system failed to boot [17:07] jetsaredim, https://launchpad.net/debian-installer [17:09] we have an issue with the live CD eagerly mounting swap from raid raw devices, can someone have a look at bug #136804? [17:09] Launchpad bug 136804 in casper "livecd auto mounting swap partitions detected on dmraid volume members" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136804 [17:10] cjwatson: hm; do you have any idea why avahi-daemon is a dependency in ubuntu-desktop? It's not seeded anywhere [17:10] pitti, I think it is in platform maybe? [17:10] oh, right [17:11] sorry wrong channel, I though this was #ubuntu-installer for a second [17:11] pitti: platform.intrepid/desktop-common [17:12] jetsaredim: it isn't usually necessary for / to be marked as bootable - BIOSes just need *a* bootable partition [17:12] cjwatson: thanks [17:12] Windows cares, but Ubuntu doesn't [17:12] so we leave it alone unless there's no bootable partition on the disk [17:13] jetsaredim: CD drive not detected is a kernel problem; /ubuntu/+source/linux [17:13] cody-somerville: please don't file bugs on /debian-installer - /ubuntu/+source/debian-installer at most === CarlF1 is now known as CarlFK [17:13] /debian-installer is the upstream project [17:15] cody-somerville: bug 192258 updated [17:15] Launchpad bug 192258 in ubuntu-meta "avahi should be downgraded to Recommends:" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192258 [17:21] * sladen celebrates filing a bug with three zeros at the end [17:21] ...that's only happened about 250 times before! [17:24] sladen: For extra points, try for 4 zeros :) [17:27] pitti: ref zul's samba SRU - if we're going to change the smbclient defaults for .1, then I need to reject that other SRU; if we're going to leave the smbclient defaults alone, then it stays put until after .1 [17:29] mvo: are you around? [17:33] pitti: so I'm still hoping you'll tell me which way we should go on the smbclient question for SRU, since I feel I should recuse myself [17:37] hmm, so an intrepid daily now exists, but the boot loader is mysteriously a bit buggered [17:38] but, it boots ... [17:38] detect keyboard layout hosed [17:39] fails to mount CD. damn. [17:44] ah, no isofs [17:53]