| asac | bug 239022 | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | asac: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/239022/+text) | 00:02 |
| asac | hmm | 00:02 |
| asac | ok | 00:02 |
| fta | ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection refused | 00:15 |
| asac | yeah | 00:47 |
| asac | just hope that the bugmail i send is not discarded :) | 00:49 |
| asac | 'night! | 00:50 |
| fta | http://np237.livejournal.com/18484.html | 01:33 |
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| asac | fta: well, i wont consider joss cite-worthy ;) | 08:30 |
| asac | cwong1: sorry ... forgot to ping you :/ | 09:10 |
| asac | cwong1: maybe today :) | 09:10 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| armin76 | this is stupid | 10:16 |
| * armin76 blames asac | 10:17 | |
| armin76 | gentoo bug 193954 | 10:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 193954 in gnome-control-center "g-keyboard-properties: Ctrl+character doesn't work as expected with multiple layouts (dup-of: 23244)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193954 | 10:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 23244 in gtk "keyboard shortcut mixed when using several keymaps" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23244 | 10:17 |
| armin76 | eh? | 10:17 |
| armin76 | http://bugs.gentoo.org/227951 <- still not fixed on 3.0 :( | 10:18 |
| asac | armin76: how is that a ffox issue? | 10:19 |
| armin76 | its a configure script issue | 10:22 |
| armin76 | asac: nss-3.12 got released | 15:57 |
| asac | armin76: tomorrow ;) | 16:08 |
| rzr | hi | 16:16 |
| asac | hi | 16:16 |
| rzr | asac: how can I help w/ Flashblock : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashblock/+bug/239151 ? | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 239151 in flashblock "flashblock crashes firefox3" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:16 |
| rzr | asac: the code need to be merged your side right ? | 16:17 |
| asac | rzr: could you actually reproduce the crash? | 16:18 |
| rzr | didnt tried yet, I guess new upstream'll close this bug | 16:19 |
| asac | well | 16:20 |
| asac | guessing is fine, knowing is better :) | 16:20 |
| rzr | And I am lazy to boot my 2000 db Desktop PC | 16:20 |
| rzr | let me ssh to some hardy box :) | 16:20 |
| asac | rzr: did you look at your branch? :) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rzr/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu | 16:22 |
| asac | there are two commits without real email ;) | 16:22 |
| rzr | yes I noticed afteraward | 16:22 |
| rzr | I used sshfs , and my Env was lost | 16:23 |
| asac | rzr: you didnt syn with the released branch before updating | 16:24 |
| asac | e.g. there is no release commit on your branch as is in: | 16:25 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu | 16:25 |
| rzr | right | 16:25 |
| rzr | let's do it now | 16:25 |
| asac | do what? | 16:25 |
| rzr | merge | 16:26 |
| asac | let me see what happens when merging | 16:26 |
| rzr | debian/changelog conflict | 16:26 |
| rzr | i am resolving it | 16:26 |
| asac | rzr: let me do the fix | 16:27 |
| asac | rzr: then drop your branch | 16:27 |
| rzr | ok | 16:27 |
| asac | and next time start with release branch ;) | 16:27 |
| rzr | sure | 16:27 |
| Yannig | Hello everybody | 16:29 |
| Yannig | Hello asac | 16:29 |
| rzr | salut | 16:29 |
| Yannig | Salut rzr | 16:29 |
| asac | hi | 16:30 |
| Yannig | asac: Tell me: what can I do if I want to make test my translations by others on Mac and Windows? | 16:30 |
| rzr | Yannig: doing tranlation to occitant ? is there a big translation community there ? | 16:31 |
| Yannig | rzr: Me :P | 16:31 |
| Yannig | rzr: But I'd like others to test, in order that they tell me what they think of it | 16:31 |
| rzr | ok, because I am born in toulouse and lived there 25 years ,and I dont even know how to say "hello world" :) | 16:32 |
| Yannig | Two friends of mine would do it, they installed xulrunner and firefox translations but no way :P | 16:32 |
| Yannig | rzr: :D | 16:32 |
| rzr | a random localisation feature would help pple to learn other languages :) | 16:33 |
| Yannig | rzr: but Ubuntu is 11% translated, GNOME 33%, Firefox 36%, etc. :-) | 16:33 |
| Yannig | rzr: Why not :) | 16:33 |
| rzr | anyone run intrepid here ?, is beta1 out ? | 16:36 |
| asac | rzr: i merged it and dropped a comment in bug | 16:36 |
| asac | please fix that on top of the release branch i pushed :) | 16:36 |
| asac | then tell me and will upload to intrepid | 16:36 |
| rzr | ok | 16:36 |
| asac | cool | 16:36 |
| rzr | i am working on some other package at the same time | 16:37 |
| rzr | so dont be too hury | 16:37 |
| asac | its just opening a new bug and changing the bug id in changelog :) | 16:40 |
| Yannig | asac: Any idea? | 16:44 |
| Yannig | rzr: Wouldn't you know? ;-) | 16:47 |
| rzr | know what ? I am the guess man :) | 16:47 |
| Yannig | rzr: Great, lucky me :-) | 16:48 |
| rzr | I see that If you pay me a beer when I am back in occitanie you'll avoid big trouble | 16:49 |
| rzr | X forwarding is so slow, Are there libre aternative like NX ? | 16:50 |
| Yannig | rzr: Can be done, if you have an answer to my question ;-) | 16:50 |
| rzr | the question about merging your changes upstream ? | 16:51 |
| Yannig | rzr: Nope :-) | 16:51 |
| Yannig | rzr: asac explained me how to make xpi with my Occitan translations, I did them, I installed them on my computer (Ubuntu) and it works | 16:52 |
| rzr | I'll suggest you to join a mozilla community | 16:52 |
| rzr | like xulfr | 16:52 |
| Yannig | I'd like to know how to make them work for people on Windows and Mac | 16:52 |
| rzr | they seams pretty active arent they ? | 16:53 |
| Yannig | Mozilla does not want to hear from a translating before it's finished :-( | 16:53 |
| rzr | mozco | 16:53 |
| rzr | there are many communities related to mozilla ... xulfr is one of them | 16:54 |
| asac | Yannig: id you try to use them on win? | 17:11 |
| Yannig | id. | 17:12 |
| Yannig | ? | 17:12 |
| asac | did | 17:12 |
| Yannig | Nope, it's been a long time I didn't use Win | 17:12 |
| Yannig | I'll do it, someone advised me to try Locale switcher | 17:12 |
| asac | yeah | 17:15 |
| asac | thats the official way of switching locales | 17:15 |
| Yannig | Great :-) | 17:15 |
| Yannig | Thanks :-) | 17:15 |
| asac | maybe you can use matchOS preference, but not sure how to set windows environment to your locale | 17:15 |
| Yannig | If Locale switcher works, it will be perfect for testing | 17:15 |
| * asac off for a few | 17:18 | |
| Yannig | See you, I have to go back to work. | 17:19 |
| armin76 | asac: fta: have you noticed the bug with the spaces in the address bar? | 18:17 |
| armin76 | asac: fta: if your address bar has an url with spaces, and you do ctrl-c, it translates the spaces to %20 when you paste it, however if you use unix paste(selection) it doesn't | 18:19 |
| fta | armin76, same with "'" | 18:41 |
| fta | ' => %27 | 18:41 |
| armin76 | fta: any bug upstream? | 18:52 |
| fta | not sure it's a bug, both make sense | 18:55 |
| armin76 | why? ctcl-c converts it | 18:57 |
| fta | one selects text, the other selects properly encoded url | 19:00 |
| fta | well, i have no strong opinion on which is better | 19:00 |
| fta | 16 min left for the download day | 19:00 |
| fta | stevel, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-0.6.png | 19:02 |
| fta | stevel, seems to work fine, yet i have a lot of error messages in the console | 19:03 |
| armin76 | fta: asac: btw another bug: #fff is black | 19:03 |
| fta | armin76, file a bug | 19:03 |
| stevel | fta: awesome :) do you mean the JS console, or the stderr console? | 19:04 |
| fta | stevel, both | 19:04 |
| stevel | fta: can you pastebin or email them to me (stevel at songbirdnest dot com) and i'll take a look in a bit? | 19:05 |
| stevel | (about to go onto a panel for about an hour, but i can take a look after that) | 19:05 |
| fta | ok | 19:05 |
| fta | 8,249,092 | 19:16 |
| fta | hm, still moving | 19:17 |
| armin76 | fta: nevermind that #fff thing :P | 19:25 |
| asac | fta_: do we have a seamonkey 1.1 branch? | 20:09 |
| asac | gandi: hi | 20:11 |
| asac | what can we do? | 20:11 |
| armin76 | bumb ff :D | 20:11 |
| asac | armin76: for you ? | 20:11 |
| gandi | asac: I'll have an internet this summer | 20:12 |
| gandi | who is a member of Ubuntu community | 20:12 |
| asac | internee? | 20:12 |
| gandi | and he'd like to work on Ubuntu-Mozilla integration | 20:12 |
| gandi | yea | 20:12 |
| asac | ah ok | 20:12 |
| gandi | sorry, I'm so much used to writing the former ;) | 20:12 |
| asac | gandi: hehe. thats good news. | 20:12 |
| gandi | would you be able to talk to him and help him choosing most needed things to be done? | 20:12 |
| asac | gandi: we have two main topics that are already pretty much specified ;) | 20:13 |
| gandi | can I introduce him to you? | 20:14 |
| asac | gandi: get him here and we can have a virtual IRC conference | 20:14 |
| asac | absolutely | 20:14 |
| asac | gandi: when would that be? | 20:15 |
| xionox | hi | 20:16 |
| gandi | asac: meet xionox | 20:16 |
| gandi | xionox: meet asec :) | 20:16 |
| armin76 | hi asec :D | 20:16 |
| gandi | Asec is a leader of Ubuntu Mozilla team | 20:16 |
| xionox | ok | 20:16 |
| gandi | xionox will be working from Mozilla Europe HQ during summer | 20:16 |
| gandi | and he's interested in helping making Firefox work better on Ubuntu :) | 20:17 |
| xionox | yep | 20:17 |
| armin76 | haha | 20:17 |
| xionox | :) | 20:18 |
| gandi | asac: can you help xionox choose priorities and select what he'll be working on? | 20:18 |
| xionox | if I can work on something | 20:18 |
| asac | hi xionox | 20:20 |
| xionox | hi asac | 20:20 |
| asac | xionox: what are your ideas? | 20:21 |
| asac | e.g. what areas of integration do you see that can be improved? | 20:21 |
| xionox | it is prety well integrated now | 20:22 |
| fta_ | asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/seamonkey/seamonkey-1.1.dev | 20:22 |
| asac | i have some concrete things in mind, but I am always happy to hear about others :) | 20:22 |
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| xionox | it can be easy things, like pakaging extensions | 20:23 |
| xionox | but i don't have many idea in mind now | 20:23 |
| gandi | asac: for example xionox proposed he could write on adding a button on "firefox cannot be started because there is already another version started" window to kill all other instances | 20:24 |
| gandi | asac: do you have a list of ToDo? | 20:24 |
| asac | gandi: not really written down. but there are several things i have in mind | 20:24 |
| asac | xionox: are you more or less experienced with firefox code? | 20:24 |
| gandi | feel free to impregnate xionox's mind with them ;D | 20:24 |
| asac | gandi: I'll do :) | 20:25 |
| xionox | nop | 20:25 |
| gandi | I'm going to do XUL training on xionox at the first days | 20:25 |
| asac | ah ok | 20:25 |
| gandi | we want to make sure xionox can work on Mozilla code | 20:25 |
| xionox | I'm totally beginner about mozilla code | 20:25 |
| asac | ok good. | 20:25 |
| asac | yeah. how long will you internship last? | 20:25 |
| gandi | around 6 weeks | 20:25 |
| xionox | yep | 20:26 |
| asac | ok good. | 20:26 |
| xionox | but i have (i think) strong knowledge about ubuntu and linux in general | 20:26 |
| asac | ok. let me give the main things that should happen or at least get started this cycle integration wise | 20:27 |
| asac | 1. improve the plugin finder server experience. | 20:27 |
| asac | the main task here is to add description to the results and to make the apturl run not block the mozilla UI | 20:28 |
| asac | (tell me if things are not clear as you might miss context :)) | 20:28 |
| asac | 2. work on getting our plugin finder features into the mozilla main tree | 20:29 |
| xionox | i understand | 20:29 |
| asac | for this we need to make the plugin finder service capable of new install methods (e.g. dpkg, rpm) | 20:29 |
| asac | and most likely we should also take care that packaged extensions also show up in the extensions dialog | 20:30 |
| asac | thats most likely a bit too much to get started | 20:30 |
| asac | 3. improve kde integration | 20:30 |
| asac | we have a spec on that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Firefox3KDEIntegrationIntrepid | 20:31 |
| asac | 4. provide a mechanism that notifies users in case there are plugin alternatives available and allow them to switch plugin used for a certain content-type | 20:32 |
| asac | this should probably be done with upstreaming in mind | 20:32 |
| asac | btw, 4. is part of another spec https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashExperienceIntrepid | 20:33 |
| xionox | ha ok | 20:33 |
| asac | 5. make upgrades safer :) | 20:34 |
| asac | this is a continuing task i guess. some ideas involve to display that firefox needs to be restarted in the firefox UI | 20:34 |
| asac | another idea involves locking down access to "new"(not yet loaded) chrome or "new" (not yet loaded) components | 20:35 |
| asac | as those are the cases where firefox running after upgrade is at danger of going wild | 20:35 |
| xionox | ok | 20:36 |
| asac | xionox: you can also work on multiple of these and pick the easy parts to get started | 20:36 |
| asac | e.g. for 5. make the button that allows users to restart firefox | 20:36 |
| asac | for kde integration fix the "set background image" feature ... and so on | 20:37 |
| asac | xionox: you think any of those is something you would like to work on? | 20:37 |
| xionox | yes | 20:37 |
| xionox | any | 20:38 |
| asac | cool | 20:38 |
| asac | ;) | 20:38 |
| asac | any preference? | 20:38 |
| xionox | no | 20:38 |
| asac | gandi: what do you think? | 20:38 |
| xionox | I just don't know if i could do one of these things on my own | 20:38 |
| asac | maybe start with some low hanging fruits? like adding "description" to plugin finder service results in ubufox | 20:38 |
| asac | and adding restart button | 20:39 |
| asac | on upgrades | 20:39 |
| gandi | xionox: You can look at developer.mozilla.org | 20:39 |
| gandi | just eyescan | 20:39 |
| gandi | XUL tutorial to get an idea how easy XUL is | 20:40 |
| gandi | ;) | 20:40 |
| asac | xionox: once we know the initial tasks, I could try to provide initial pointers in a mini-spec document | 20:40 |
| xionox | ok | 20:40 |
| gandi | generally speaking, I would recommend just scanning through what asac said and seeing what's best for you :) | 20:40 |
| xionox | it seam good for me | 20:40 |
| gandi | it's also about what do you think motivates you most, what would you like to work on :) | 20:40 |
| xionox | I'm ok to work on any of these tasks | 20:41 |
| xionox | i find each of them interesting | 20:41 |
| gandi | cool! | 20:41 |
| gandi | :) | 20:41 |
| gandi | but you'll have to make a decision one day, you know that, right? ;D | 20:42 |
| asac | gandi: i think the final decision should be done after initial work was done | 20:42 |
| asac | its easier to estimate what is possible after having done a few things | 20:42 |
| gandi | can you guys exchange emails so that you can contact each other? xionox for help, asac once he'll find another ToDo ? ;) | 20:42 |
| gandi | asac: definitely | 20:42 |
| asac | not sure if thats possible in a 6 weeks timeframe | 20:42 |
| asac | :) | 20:42 |
| asac | gandi: sure. | 20:43 |
| xionox | yes | 20:43 |
| gandi | I'm just trying to help xionox build a list and rightsize to make sure he'll be able to work at least on a few useful to the end during internship :) | 20:43 |
| xionox | I agree | 20:43 |
| asac | xionox: you can always ping me here ... i might be in bed from time to time, but in general i am here ;) | 20:43 |
| asac | otherwise asac@ubuntu.com | 20:43 |
| xionox | xionox@gmail.com for me | 20:44 |
| asac | xionox: ok, so lets say we start on "safer upgrades"? | 20:47 |
| xionox | it work for me | 20:47 |
| asac | xionox: if so, I'd draft a spec out of it and let you know | 20:47 |
| xionox | what initial knowledge will i need to do that ? | 20:48 |
| asac | xionox: a bit mozilla xul and xpcom and general ubuntu knowledge | 20:48 |
| asac | e.g. you might need to contribute patches to the update-notifier | 20:48 |
| asac | i think its good balance | 20:49 |
| asac | e.g. you can work on the ubuntu topics if you get stack on the "new" mozilla territory | 20:49 |
| xionox | ok :) | 20:49 |
| asac | the xul + xpcom requirements are not really high | 20:49 |
| asac | most likely as low as possible for something that has real-life value :) | 20:49 |
| xionox | i will see with gandi for the xul | 20:49 |
| asac | xionox: when will the internship start? | 20:50 |
| xionox | 7 of july | 20:50 |
| asac | ok cool. will you be regularly in this channel? | 20:50 |
| asac | if so, kick me here if you have heard nothing about the "safer upgrade" spec in a week | 20:51 |
| xionox | if you are, I think yes | 20:51 |
| asac | i am always here :) | 20:51 |
| xionox | ok | 20:51 |
| asac | sometime afk ;) | 20:51 |
| asac | cool great | 20:51 |
| asac | looking forward | 20:51 |
| asac | xionox: maybe start reading on MDC before you start as gandi suggested | 20:52 |
| asac | so you get basic knowledge :) | 20:52 |
| gandi | MDC = developer.mozilla.org | 20:52 |
| xionox | yes, i will | 20:53 |
| xionox | so, see you after the 7of july ? | 20:58 |
| gandi | xionox: feel free to jump in before :) | 21:05 |
| xionox | ok, thanks | 21:08 |
| xionox | bye asac | 21:08 |
| fta | mozilla bug 436870 | 21:20 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 436870 in Security: PSM "FF3 RC1 loses SSL certificate exceptions" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436870 | 21:20 |
| cwong1 | asac: ping.. got a quick question for u | 21:24 |
| asac | cwong1: y | 21:26 |
| cwong1 | asac: Are you folk still accept bug fixes for midbrowser? | 21:26 |
| cwong1 | s/accept/accepting/ | 21:27 |
| cwong1 | asac: ^^^? | 21:29 |
| asac | cwong1: depends | 21:30 |
| asac | what fixes? | 21:30 |
| cwong1 | asac: there is a problem with aboutbox not scale properly at 800x480 | 21:30 |
| cwong1 | asac: I have a simple fix for that. | 21:31 |
| asac | cwong1: we can do that. but i'd rather like to accumulate more fixes before starting the SRU process | 21:32 |
| asac | cwong1: so the idea is that you keep working on master and then we cherry-pick the important fixes regularly | 21:33 |
| cwong1 | asac: that sounds good to me. | 21:33 |
| cwong1 | asac: let do that unless Compal start scream for the fix. | 21:33 |
| asac | yes. to suffice immediate demand one can also upload to PPA i guess | 21:34 |
| asac | but for main hardy we should update midbrowser at regular intervals | 21:34 |
| cwong1 | ok | 21:35 |
| asac | we could say that we align midbrowser update cycle with firefox one | 21:35 |
| asac | cwong1: what about a roadmap for midbrowser 1.0? improving toolbar would be an immediate need i guess | 21:37 |
| asac | the usability lacks behind ... and adding fingerscroll for textfields | 21:37 |
| cwong1 | asac: We don't have plan for midbrowser 1.0 yet. I agree with u that the toolbar needs some work. We are currently looking at Friefox mobile. | 21:38 |
| cwong1 | I like what they did by combining the urlbar and searchbar into 1 | 21:39 |
| asac | cwong1: right. there are various other concepts in there that are nice | 21:39 |
| asac | point is that i havent seen any date when there will be something usable | 21:40 |
| asac | any idea? | 21:40 |
| cwong1 | The latest is beta by yearend. It will release the same time as Firefox 3.1. | 21:40 |
| cwong1 | I built a prototype from their source repository and got it running on a Samsung Q1. Looks good. Unforunately most of other UI are not there yet. | 21:41 |
| cwong1 | But the toolbar looks great. | 21:42 |
| cwong1 | The build instruction can be found at: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec | 21:43 |
| fta | brb | 22:43 |
| fta | i like the new gtk look in intrepid | 23:05 |
| fta | stevel, some of the errors i get: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/463196 | 23:11 |
| stevel | fta: cool, i'll take a look | 23:12 |
| fta | stevel, is there a way to prevent the main sb window from being stuck in the visible part of the desktop ? | 23:13 |
| stevel | thanks | 23:13 |
| stevel | fta: i think there's an open bug on that | 23:14 |
| * stevel roots around | 23:14 | |
| fta | stevel, those are in my shell: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/463201 | 23:16 |
| stevel | fta: so your first pastebin, the JS errors - those are all currently known bugs | 23:18 |
| stevel | if you care, i can dig up the bug numbers - but some of them are already being worked on | 23:18 |
| stevel | the one for line #9 is because the GStreamer media core lacked the getSupportForURI() call, and has been fixed in trunk already | 23:19 |
| stevel | i recgnise the errors on line 1 & 7, i believe bugs are already filed for them - not sure if they're being worked on | 23:19 |
| stevel | not sure i recognise the one on line 14, but i feel like i overheard talk about it the other day - i'll look into that one further | 23:20 |
| stevel | i don't recognise the ones from the second pastebin - but i'll look into those as well | 23:20 |
| fta | cool, thanks | 23:21 |
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