[00:02] bug 239022 [00:02] asac: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/239022/+text) [00:02] hmm [00:02] ok [00:15] ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection refused [00:47] yeah [00:49] just hope that the bugmail i send is not discarded :) [00:50] 'night! [01:33] http://np237.livejournal.com/18484.html === Moot2 is now known as MootBot [08:30] fta: well, i wont consider joss cite-worthy ;) [09:10] cwong1: sorry ... forgot to ping you :/ [09:10] cwong1: maybe today :) === asac_ is now known as asac [10:16] this is stupid [10:17] * armin76 blames asac [10:17] gentoo bug 193954 [10:17] Launchpad bug 193954 in gnome-control-center "g-keyboard-properties: Ctrl+character doesn't work as expected with multiple layouts (dup-of: 23244)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193954 [10:17] Launchpad bug 23244 in gtk "keyboard shortcut mixed when using several keymaps" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23244 [10:17] eh? [10:18] http://bugs.gentoo.org/227951 <- still not fixed on 3.0 :( [10:19] armin76: how is that a ffox issue? [10:22] its a configure script issue [15:57] asac: nss-3.12 got released [16:08] armin76: tomorrow ;) [16:16] hi [16:16] hi [16:16] asac: how can I help w/ Flashblock : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashblock/+bug/239151 ? [16:16] Launchpad bug 239151 in flashblock "flashblock crashes firefox3" [Undecided,In progress] [16:17] asac: the code need to be merged your side right ? [16:18] rzr: could you actually reproduce the crash? [16:19] didnt tried yet, I guess new upstream'll close this bug [16:20] well [16:20] guessing is fine, knowing is better :) [16:20] And I am lazy to boot my 2000 db Desktop PC [16:20] let me ssh to some hardy box :) [16:22] rzr: did you look at your branch? :) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rzr/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu [16:22] there are two commits without real email ;) [16:22] yes I noticed afteraward [16:23] I used sshfs , and my Env was lost [16:24] rzr: you didnt syn with the released branch before updating [16:25] e.g. there is no release commit on your branch as is in: [16:25] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu [16:25] right [16:25] let's do it now [16:25] do what? [16:26] merge [16:26] let me see what happens when merging [16:26] debian/changelog conflict [16:26] i am resolving it [16:27] rzr: let me do the fix [16:27] rzr: then drop your branch [16:27] ok [16:27] and next time start with release branch ;) [16:27] sure [16:29] Hello everybody [16:29] Hello asac [16:29] salut [16:29] Salut rzr [16:30] hi [16:30] asac: Tell me: what can I do if I want to make test my translations by others on Mac and Windows? [16:31] Yannig: doing tranlation to occitant ? is there a big translation community there ? [16:31] rzr: Me :P [16:31] rzr: But I'd like others to test, in order that they tell me what they think of it [16:32] ok, because I am born in toulouse and lived there 25 years ,and I dont even know how to say "hello world" :) [16:32] Two friends of mine would do it, they installed xulrunner and firefox translations but no way :P [16:32] rzr: :D [16:33] a random localisation feature would help pple to learn other languages :) [16:33] rzr: but Ubuntu is 11% translated, GNOME 33%, Firefox 36%, etc. :-) [16:33] rzr: Why not :) [16:36] anyone run intrepid here ?, is beta1 out ? [16:36] rzr: i merged it and dropped a comment in bug [16:36] please fix that on top of the release branch i pushed :) [16:36] then tell me and will upload to intrepid [16:36] ok [16:36] cool [16:37] i am working on some other package at the same time [16:37] so dont be too hury [16:40] its just opening a new bug and changing the bug id in changelog :) [16:44] asac: Any idea? [16:47] rzr: Wouldn't you know? ;-) [16:47] know what ? I am the guess man :) [16:48] rzr: Great, lucky me :-) [16:49] I see that If you pay me a beer when I am back in occitanie you'll avoid big trouble [16:50] X forwarding is so slow, Are there libre aternative like NX ? [16:50] rzr: Can be done, if you have an answer to my question ;-) [16:51] the question about merging your changes upstream ? [16:51] rzr: Nope :-) [16:52] rzr: asac explained me how to make xpi with my Occitan translations, I did them, I installed them on my computer (Ubuntu) and it works [16:52] I'll suggest you to join a mozilla community [16:52] like xulfr [16:52] I'd like to know how to make them work for people on Windows and Mac [16:53] they seams pretty active arent they ? [16:53] Mozilla does not want to hear from a translating before it's finished :-( [16:53] mozco [16:54] there are many communities related to mozilla ... xulfr is one of them [17:11] Yannig: id you try to use them on win? [17:12] id. [17:12] ? [17:12] did [17:12] Nope, it's been a long time I didn't use Win [17:12] I'll do it, someone advised me to try Locale switcher [17:15] yeah [17:15] thats the official way of switching locales [17:15] Great :-) [17:15] Thanks :-) [17:15] maybe you can use matchOS preference, but not sure how to set windows environment to your locale [17:15] If Locale switcher works, it will be perfect for testing [17:18] * asac off for a few [17:19] See you, I have to go back to work. [18:17] asac: fta: have you noticed the bug with the spaces in the address bar? [18:19] asac: fta: if your address bar has an url with spaces, and you do ctrl-c, it translates the spaces to %20 when you paste it, however if you use unix paste(selection) it doesn't [18:41] armin76, same with "'" [18:41] ' => %27 [18:52] fta: any bug upstream? [18:55] not sure it's a bug, both make sense [18:57] why? ctcl-c converts it [19:00] one selects text, the other selects properly encoded url [19:00] well, i have no strong opinion on which is better [19:00] 16 min left for the download day [19:02] stevel, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-0.6.png [19:03] stevel, seems to work fine, yet i have a lot of error messages in the console [19:03] fta: asac: btw another bug: #fff is black [19:03] armin76, file a bug [19:04] fta: awesome :) do you mean the JS console, or the stderr console? [19:04] stevel, both [19:05] fta: can you pastebin or email them to me (stevel at songbirdnest dot com) and i'll take a look in a bit? [19:05] (about to go onto a panel for about an hour, but i can take a look after that) [19:05] ok [19:16] 8,249,092 [19:17] hm, still moving [19:25] fta: nevermind that #fff thing :P [20:09] fta_: do we have a seamonkey 1.1 branch? [20:11] gandi: hi [20:11] what can we do? [20:11] bumb ff :D [20:11] armin76: for you ? [20:12] asac: I'll have an internet this summer [20:12] who is a member of Ubuntu community [20:12] internee? [20:12] and he'd like to work on Ubuntu-Mozilla integration [20:12] yea [20:12] ah ok [20:12] sorry, I'm so much used to writing the former ;) [20:12] gandi: hehe. thats good news. [20:12] would you be able to talk to him and help him choosing most needed things to be done? [20:13] gandi: we have two main topics that are already pretty much specified ;) [20:14] can I introduce him to you? [20:14] gandi: get him here and we can have a virtual IRC conference [20:14] absolutely [20:15] gandi: when would that be? [20:16] hi [20:16] asac: meet xionox [20:16] xionox: meet asec :) [20:16] hi asec :D [20:16] Asec is a leader of Ubuntu Mozilla team [20:16] ok [20:16] xionox will be working from Mozilla Europe HQ during summer [20:17] and he's interested in helping making Firefox work better on Ubuntu :) [20:17] yep [20:17] haha [20:18] :) [20:18] asac: can you help xionox choose priorities and select what he'll be working on? [20:18] if I can work on something [20:20] hi xionox [20:20] hi asac [20:21] xionox: what are your ideas? [20:21] e.g. what areas of integration do you see that can be improved? [20:22] it is prety well integrated now [20:22] asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/seamonkey/seamonkey-1.1.dev [20:22] i have some concrete things in mind, but I am always happy to hear about others :) === fta_ is now known as fta [20:23] it can be easy things, like pakaging extensions [20:23] but i don't have many idea in mind now [20:24] asac: for example xionox proposed he could write on adding a button on "firefox cannot be started because there is already another version started" window to kill all other instances [20:24] asac: do you have a list of ToDo? [20:24] gandi: not really written down. but there are several things i have in mind [20:24] xionox: are you more or less experienced with firefox code? [20:24] feel free to impregnate xionox's mind with them ;D [20:25] gandi: I'll do :) [20:25] nop [20:25] I'm going to do XUL training on xionox at the first days [20:25] ah ok [20:25] we want to make sure xionox can work on Mozilla code [20:25] I'm totally beginner about mozilla code [20:25] ok good. [20:25] yeah. how long will you internship last? [20:25] around 6 weeks [20:26] yep [20:26] ok good. [20:26] but i have (i think) strong knowledge about ubuntu and linux in general [20:27] ok. let me give the main things that should happen or at least get started this cycle integration wise [20:27] 1. improve the plugin finder server experience. [20:28] the main task here is to add description to the results and to make the apturl run not block the mozilla UI [20:28] (tell me if things are not clear as you might miss context :)) [20:29] 2. work on getting our plugin finder features into the mozilla main tree [20:29] i understand [20:29] for this we need to make the plugin finder service capable of new install methods (e.g. dpkg, rpm) [20:30] and most likely we should also take care that packaged extensions also show up in the extensions dialog [20:30] thats most likely a bit too much to get started [20:30] 3. improve kde integration [20:31] we have a spec on that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Firefox3KDEIntegrationIntrepid [20:32] 4. provide a mechanism that notifies users in case there are plugin alternatives available and allow them to switch plugin used for a certain content-type [20:32] this should probably be done with upstreaming in mind [20:33] btw, 4. is part of another spec https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashExperienceIntrepid [20:33] ha ok [20:34] 5. make upgrades safer :) [20:34] this is a continuing task i guess. some ideas involve to display that firefox needs to be restarted in the firefox UI [20:35] another idea involves locking down access to "new"(not yet loaded) chrome or "new" (not yet loaded) components [20:35] as those are the cases where firefox running after upgrade is at danger of going wild [20:36] ok [20:36] xionox: you can also work on multiple of these and pick the easy parts to get started [20:36] e.g. for 5. make the button that allows users to restart firefox [20:37] for kde integration fix the "set background image" feature ... and so on [20:37] xionox: you think any of those is something you would like to work on? [20:37] yes [20:38] any [20:38] cool [20:38] ;) [20:38] any preference? [20:38] no [20:38] gandi: what do you think? [20:38] I just don't know if i could do one of these things on my own [20:38] maybe start with some low hanging fruits? like adding "description" to plugin finder service results in ubufox [20:39] and adding restart button [20:39] on upgrades [20:39] xionox: You can look at developer.mozilla.org [20:39] just eyescan [20:40] XUL tutorial to get an idea how easy XUL is [20:40] ;) [20:40] xionox: once we know the initial tasks, I could try to provide initial pointers in a mini-spec document [20:40] ok [20:40] generally speaking, I would recommend just scanning through what asac said and seeing what's best for you :) [20:40] it seam good for me [20:40] it's also about what do you think motivates you most, what would you like to work on :) [20:41] I'm ok to work on any of these tasks [20:41] i find each of them interesting [20:41] cool! [20:41] :) [20:42] but you'll have to make a decision one day, you know that, right? ;D [20:42] gandi: i think the final decision should be done after initial work was done [20:42] its easier to estimate what is possible after having done a few things [20:42] can you guys exchange emails so that you can contact each other? xionox for help, asac once he'll find another ToDo ? ;) [20:42] asac: definitely [20:42] not sure if thats possible in a 6 weeks timeframe [20:42] :) [20:43] gandi: sure. [20:43] yes [20:43] I'm just trying to help xionox build a list and rightsize to make sure he'll be able to work at least on a few useful to the end during internship :) [20:43] I agree [20:43] xionox: you can always ping me here ... i might be in bed from time to time, but in general i am here ;) [20:43] otherwise asac@ubuntu.com [20:44] xionox@gmail.com for me [20:47] xionox: ok, so lets say we start on "safer upgrades"? [20:47] it work for me [20:47] xionox: if so, I'd draft a spec out of it and let you know [20:48] what initial knowledge will i need to do that ? [20:48] xionox: a bit mozilla xul and xpcom and general ubuntu knowledge [20:48] e.g. you might need to contribute patches to the update-notifier [20:49] i think its good balance [20:49] e.g. you can work on the ubuntu topics if you get stack on the "new" mozilla territory [20:49] ok :) [20:49] the xul + xpcom requirements are not really high [20:49] most likely as low as possible for something that has real-life value :) [20:49] i will see with gandi for the xul [20:50] xionox: when will the internship start? [20:50] 7 of july [20:50] ok cool. will you be regularly in this channel? [20:51] if so, kick me here if you have heard nothing about the "safer upgrade" spec in a week [20:51] if you are, I think yes [20:51] i am always here :) [20:51] ok [20:51] sometime afk ;) [20:51] cool great [20:51] looking forward [20:52] xionox: maybe start reading on MDC before you start as gandi suggested [20:52] so you get basic knowledge :) [20:52] MDC = developer.mozilla.org [20:53] yes, i will [20:58] so, see you after the 7of july ? [21:05] xionox: feel free to jump in before :) [21:08] ok, thanks [21:08] bye asac [21:20] mozilla bug 436870 [21:20] Mozilla bug 436870 in Security: PSM "FF3 RC1 loses SSL certificate exceptions" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436870 [21:24] asac: ping.. got a quick question for u [21:26] cwong1: y [21:26] asac: Are you folk still accept bug fixes for midbrowser? [21:27] s/accept/accepting/ [21:29] asac: ^^^? [21:30] cwong1: depends [21:30] what fixes? [21:30] asac: there is a problem with aboutbox not scale properly at 800x480 [21:31] asac: I have a simple fix for that. [21:32] cwong1: we can do that. but i'd rather like to accumulate more fixes before starting the SRU process [21:33] cwong1: so the idea is that you keep working on master and then we cherry-pick the important fixes regularly [21:33] asac: that sounds good to me. [21:33] asac: let do that unless Compal start scream for the fix. [21:34] yes. to suffice immediate demand one can also upload to PPA i guess [21:34] but for main hardy we should update midbrowser at regular intervals [21:35] ok [21:35] we could say that we align midbrowser update cycle with firefox one [21:37] cwong1: what about a roadmap for midbrowser 1.0? improving toolbar would be an immediate need i guess [21:37] the usability lacks behind ... and adding fingerscroll for textfields [21:38] asac: We don't have plan for midbrowser 1.0 yet. I agree with u that the toolbar needs some work. We are currently looking at Friefox mobile. [21:39] I like what they did by combining the urlbar and searchbar into 1 [21:39] cwong1: right. there are various other concepts in there that are nice [21:40] point is that i havent seen any date when there will be something usable [21:40] any idea? [21:40] The latest is beta by yearend. It will release the same time as Firefox 3.1. [21:41] I built a prototype from their source repository and got it running on a Samsung Q1. Looks good. Unforunately most of other UI are not there yet. [21:42] But the toolbar looks great. [21:43] The build instruction can be found at: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec [22:43] brb [23:05] i like the new gtk look in intrepid [23:11] stevel, some of the errors i get: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/463196 [23:12] fta: cool, i'll take a look [23:13] stevel, is there a way to prevent the main sb window from being stuck in the visible part of the desktop ? [23:13] thanks [23:14] fta: i think there's an open bug on that [23:14] * stevel roots around [23:16] stevel, those are in my shell: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/463201 [23:18] fta: so your first pastebin, the JS errors - those are all currently known bugs [23:18] if you care, i can dig up the bug numbers - but some of them are already being worked on [23:19] the one for line #9 is because the GStreamer media core lacked the getSupportForURI() call, and has been fixed in trunk already [23:19] i recgnise the errors on line 1 & 7, i believe bugs are already filed for them - not sure if they're being worked on [23:20] not sure i recognise the one on line 14, but i feel like i overheard talk about it the other day - i'll look into that one further [23:20] i don't recognise the ones from the second pastebin - but i'll look into those as well [23:21] cool, thanks