[00:31] <siwon> good evening all
[00:31] <siwon> i just installed myth from the live cd on the HD
[00:32] <siwon> rebooted and all seems good, for what i know anyhow
[00:33] <siwon> but how do i get it to network with my vista machines?
[00:33] <siwon> all my content is stored on windows machines right now
[00:46] <rhpot1991> siwon: you need to create shares using cifs
[00:46] <rhpot1991> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?highlight=(share)
[00:53] <deviantintegral> what's the recommended way for dealing with multiple disc sets in mythvideo? Such as movies which are multiple dvd's, tv series, etc. What I would really like is one folder with the metadata for the series / movie, with options to choose the disc afterwards
[00:56] <petriborg> hey - does anyone know why installing "mythbuntu-control-centere" would result in my startup image to change from Ubuntu to Mythbuntu?
[01:05] <deviantintegral> petriborg: i'm guessing it' also installed mythbuntu-desktop
[01:06] <petriborg> yeah you're right i see that
[01:07] <petriborg> it doesn't seem to have actually installed anything, but had a whole bunch of things as depends
[01:07] <petriborg> maybe mythbuntu-artwork-usplash?
[01:08] <deviantintegral> yep that's it
[01:08] <deviantintegral> usplash is the boot image i think
[01:09] <petriborg> i really think that should be removed from the requirements :(
[01:09] <hads> It will pull it in but you can remove it again.
[01:09] <hads> You can even do it through the control-centre I believe.
[01:09] <petriborg> cool
[01:09] <petriborg> i'll see if i can find that
[01:25] <petriborg> when you press the up/down keys on the keyboard it lets you serf the channel names - the names that appear are things like WTTGDT etc, is there some way I can change this so that it says like FOX or something like that?
[01:26] <petriborg> (while watching live tv)
[01:36] <deviantintegral> petriborg: i think you can in the channel editor
[01:36] <deviantintegral> anyone here had problems with xfce where it loads each autostart entry many (like 50+) times?
[01:36] <petriborg> yeah i'm trying that now - i changed the channel name but that had no effect so i'm trying to modify the callsign now and see if that helps... hopefully that will not break something :-)
[01:38] <petriborg> my mythtv front end seems to rebuild the cache files every time it starts for whatever reason, but i'm not sure what you mean by autostart entry :-)
[01:40] <deviantintegral> when you log in, it loads tray applets and such automatically
[01:40] <deviantintegral> for example, the restricted driver manager is jockey-gtk
[01:40] <deviantintegral> when I log in, I get 100+ of that process
[01:40] <petriborg> wow suck
[02:10] <petriborg> is there some place that explains what the various plugins in mythbuntu do?
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> petriborg, yes
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Plugins
[02:11] <petriborg> ah thanks much :-)
[02:54] <darthanubis> which kernel type are you guys using for your myth box?
[02:54] <darthanubis> generic or rt?
[03:00] <hads> pgeneric
[03:00] <hads> s/p//
[03:02] <darthanubis> do you use pulseaudio?
[03:04] <hads> I don't
[03:04] <petriborg> i do
[03:12] <MythbuntuGuest86> got past the nobody permission error, now I get this on the front end tftp error forbidden directory
[03:23] <rhpot1991_laptop> !status
[03:23] <Zinn> I am alive.  Logging is on.
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> wha?
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991_laptop, are the db's seperate?
[03:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> negatory
[03:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> logging isn't going to happen here, still working on it
[03:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> so don't fill it with crap tgm4883_laptop :)
[03:25] <kimagure> yo
[03:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> I deleted the junk in the old db
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991_laptop, thanks
[03:25] <kimagure> what is up with DMA support and libata
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> kimagure, um, it's good to have?
[03:26] <kimagure> *lol
[03:26] <kimagure> ya
[03:26] <kimagure> how do i verify it is running?
[03:27] <kimagure> hdparm doesnt work to good with my ide and libata
[03:27] <kimagure> im running a 250 gig WD and the perfomance seems to blow
[03:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> hdparm tells you if DMA is on IIRC
[03:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> sudo hdparm -i /dev/device
[03:29] <kimagure> i just want to know why my /dev/hda is showing up as /dev/sda
[03:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can test it with -t and -T for speeds as well
[03:29] <kimagure> the new ubuntu is wierd
[03:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> kimagure: thats normal
[03:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> kimagure: run with -t and then with -T see what kind of speeds you get
[03:33] <kimagure> /dev/sda:
[03:33] <kimagure>  Model=WDC WD2500JB-00REA0                     , FwRev=20.00K20, SerialNo=     WD-WCANK6770107
[03:33] <kimagure>  Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq }
[03:33] <kimagure>  RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=50
[03:33] <kimagure>  BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=8192kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=?16?
[03:33] <kimagure>  CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=488397168
[03:33] <kimagure>  IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
[03:33] <kimagure>  PIO modes:  pio0 pio3 pio4
[03:33] <kimagure>  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
[03:33] <kimagure>  UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[03:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> paste.ubuntu.com
[03:33] <kimagure>  AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
[03:33] <kimagure>  Drive conforms to: Unspecified:  ATA/ATAPI-1,2,3,4,5,6,7
[03:33] <kimagure>  * signifies the current active mode
[03:33] <kimagure> root@sonic:~# hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
[03:33] <kimagure> /dev/sda:
[03:33] <kimagure>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[03:33] <kimagure>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:33] <kimagure>  HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:34] <kimagure> why cant i do that?
[03:34] <kimagure> ah ty for spam reduction
[03:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> hdparm doesn't like setting things on sdx as far as I recall
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> use sdparm
[03:35] <kimagure> how do you change dma with sdparm, is there a setting im missing?
[03:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: last I poked at sdparm it didn't do everything that hdparm did, I think most of those things you shouldn't need to do with sata drives
[03:36] <kimagure> its IDE
[03:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> kimagure: have you checked with -T and -t to see that its actually slow?
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> actually
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop>  UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> it's already udma5
[04:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> test
[04:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> !logging off
[04:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> !status
[04:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> !status
[04:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> !status
[05:02] <rhpot1991_laptop> another test
[05:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> !status
[05:24] <Zinn> I am alive.
[05:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> !learn something - something
[05:25] <Zinn> Sorry, learning isn't aloud here.
[05:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> !help
[05:25] <Zinn> help - commands: !logging, !learn, !delete, !#topic#, !status
[05:27] <rhpot1991_laptop> !delete something
[05:27] <Zinn> I just deleted: something
[05:27] <rhpot1991_laptop> !delete something
[05:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> !delete something
[05:28] <Zinn> Sorry, learning isn't aloud here.
[05:32] <randomshadowbmg> can mythbuntu x64 pvr 150?
[05:34] <randomshadowbmg> ?
[05:59] <tgm4883_laptop> randomshadowbmg, what?
[06:03] <rhpot1991> !delete something
[06:03] <Zinn> Sorry, deleting isn't allowed here.
[06:03] <tgm4883_laptop> !learn !learn !learn !learn
[06:03] <Zinn> Sorry, learning isn't allowed here.
[07:37] <darthanubis> anyone using totems mythtv plugin?
[07:41] <RungeKutta> I'm not, but what's it do?
[08:01] <levander>  from
[08:01] <levander> 	   "/var/lib/mythtv/videos/CONNECTIONS_DISC_1.iso"
[08:01] <levander> <levander> Damn, google says it's because I'm trying to burn from an ISO.
[08:01] <levander> 									[02:53]
[08:01] <levander> <Quentusrex> so the linux driver(or bios driver) routes the spdif audio
[08:01] <levander> 	     through the hdmi port+cable?
[08:01] <levander> <wagner> the realtek chip, on certain abit boards, supposedly does [02:54]
[08:02] <levander> <wagner> nvidia rev 177 is available in beta
[08:02] <levander> <Quentusrex> linux drivers? [02:55]
[08:02] <levander> <wagner> yes
[08:02] <levander> <wagner> i assume thats for descrete cards with spdif passthru
[08:02] <levander> <wagner> the cards have a spdif input on the board
[08:02] <levander> *** doje (n=doje@cpe-76-90-33-176.socal.res.rr.com) has joined channel
[08:02] <levander>     #mythtv-users [02:56]
[08:02] <levander> <wagner> i dont know of any solutions (linux or windows) capable of spitting
[08:02] <levander> 	 out the more advanced hdmi audio modes [02:57]
[08:02] <levander> <wagner> they all just use an spdif passthru
[08:02] <levander> <levander> What ripping format should I choose for ripping a DVD, pulling it out of the myth box, putting a blank DVD in, the writing what you ripped to this blank DVD?  I've been choosing ISO as the format, but now myth doesn't support burning ISO's.
[08:02] <levander> Oh damn, sorry
[08:02] <levander> It's just this I'm interested in:
[08:02] <levander> What ripping format should I choose for ripping a DVD, pulling it out of the myth box, putting a blank DVD in, the writing what you ripped to this blank DVD?  I've been choosing ISO as the format, but now myth doesn't support burning ISO's.
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[17:05] <randomshadowbm1> how do i use virtual hosts in ubuntu on apache2?
[17:46] <sebrock> should ask this in #ubuntu however its configureable under /sites-available
[18:25] <MythbuntuGuest44> Hey there, I'm trying to install mythbuntu. But I'm experiencing some major problems. Like no disk found while trying to install
[18:25] <MythbuntuGuest44> Neither can I find the hard-disk anywhere while in Live
[18:26] <MythbuntuGuest44> Can some (or at least one of you), please help me what I can do to install mythbuntu?
[18:29] <sabhain> <MythbuntuGuest44, have you checked the bios of the system to see if the hard disk is recognized.  This would seem to me to be a major hardware configuration or connection issue, rather than an ubuntu one.
[18:32] <MythbuntuGuest44> I have checked that indeed. The bios is detecting the hard disk.
[18:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> When I'm running a knoppix live-cd it is detected as well
[18:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> I even managed to repartition the hard drive to ext3, though that that was the problem
[19:25] <jphillip> anyone here running mythtv on an appletv?
[19:31] <sebrock> please help:...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833301
[19:35] <MythbuntuGuest44> hm Almost the same problem I have
[19:35] <tgm4883_laptop> sebrock, put a space before your link
[19:36] <MythbuntuGuest44>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833301
[19:37] <sebrock> ah yes
[19:37] <sebrock> thanks
[19:41] <MythbuntuGuest04> hello
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[19:41] <craigyboytaz> can someone help me with a hardware choice quickly?
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[19:42] <craigyboytaz> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145753/show_product_specifications#specifications
[19:42] <craigyboytaz> that 1 or...
[19:42] <craigyboytaz> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140304
[19:42] <craigyboytaz> that 1
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[19:43] <craigyboytaz> sorry dcd
[19:43] <craigyboytaz> did you get the links?
[19:48] <craigyboytaz> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145752
[19:48] <craigyboytaz> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140304
[19:48] <craigyboytaz> just incase :P
[19:50] <tgm4883_laptop> craigyboytaz, do you plan on using firewire?
[19:50] <craigyboytaz> nope, diskless frontend i do want it to do 1080p over hdmi...with audio hopefully
[19:51] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> well both seem to be pretty compatible.  Note that you should check the processor compatibility.  they probably accept close to the same processors though
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> also, one is atx, other is micro atx
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> so size preference
[19:53] <craigyboytaz> the amd one...i gave wrong link..correct link is http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145752
[19:53] <craigyboytaz> same board but matx
[19:53] <craigyboytaz> sorry!
[19:53] <craigyboytaz> to be sure i can do 1080p i would get a q6600 or a amd X4 for the other board
[19:54] <craigyboytaz> also my backend is a core2 celeron 1200, which should be more than enough for recording etc, and providing a HD stream
[19:55] <craigyboytaz> but it will be providing 64bit diskless images...shoud i stick with intel?
[19:55] <tgm4883_laptop> tough call, i'm more partial to asus, but also more partial to the intel core processors
[19:56] <craigyboytaz> i know the q6600 should do 1080p easy, say about 20% usuage...id HOPE that the AMD can
[19:56] <craigyboytaz> but with AMD i get the newer graphics
[19:58] <craigyboytaz> no reason a 64bit image built on intel wont work on AMD is there?
[19:58] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[19:58] <tgm4883_laptop> craigyboytaz, it's the hdmi i'm not so sure about
[19:59] <jphillip> I've heard reports of hdmi working on both nvidia and ati, but YMMV
[19:59] <craigyboytaz> what about it?  the hdmi connection itself...or the chipset?
[19:59] <jphillip> prob pick a board and search around ont he chipset
[20:00] <tgm4883_laptop> yea the chipset
[20:00] <craigyboytaz> people seem to have hdmi video working, and some now reporting audio...easier on nvvidia than ati i think
[20:07] <craigyboytaz> is their any advantage of the 8200 over a 7100 for 1080p mythtv....i just need a fast enough processor??
[20:11] <MythbuntuGuest44> Hmm, anyone come up with my installation problem? The hard disk is not recognised during installation. Although it is recognised by the bios and other live-distributions
[20:13] <craigyboytaz> think it sis something to do with the BIOS AHCI setting
[20:13] <jphillip> MythbuntuGuest44 did you try the alternate installer?
[20:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> no, I'm downloading that right now
[20:14] <sabhain> craigyboytaz, you've found evidence that people are getting audio out through HDMI in linux?
[20:14] <craigyboytaz> i just read some errors about it, check the SATA bios settings for that setting
[20:15] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, yes i did earlier today...cant find it now...hold on maybe it was on the myth wiki
[20:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> well its a IDE disk so the SATA bios setting should not matter right?
[20:15] <craigyboytaz> MythbuntuGuest44, true
[20:17] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, you got a hdmi mobo to try something for me?
[20:19] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, disbale the 8 ch onboard auio in the bios
[20:19] <MythbuntuGuest44> What is the difference between the normal ande the alternate iso's
[20:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> I mean what is the difference, in the way that the disk will (maybe) be recognised with the alternate
[20:20] <darthanubis> http://www.linux.com/feature/138033
[20:23] <sabhain> craigyboytaz .. I can try that tonight I think .. I do have an HDMI mobo on one of my front ends.  It's an MSI-P6NGM or something .. Intel w/ nvidia GeForce 7100 .. works pretty well.
[20:23] <sabhain> does the 8ch onboard audo force the audio through HDMI or something?
[20:23] <sabhain> btw, my MB has the realtek ALC888 audio processor
[20:24] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, DISABLE the 8ch audio
[20:24] <craigyboytaz> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MSI_Media_Live
[20:25] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, audio out in that link
[20:26] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, diff hardware i know...but it works for that
[20:27] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, what cpu do you have? will it do 1080p? @ what cpu usage?
[20:40] <sabhain> craigyboytaz, I have a core 2 duo 2.0 GHZ w/ 2GB ram on a diskless like setup, and it does HD / 1080P fine, I think usage is low like 30% or so .. I'll look into it at home later
[20:41] <craigyboytaz> sabhain, thanks gong for a 7100 setup like you, might not need the quad then...just a fastish duo like you
[20:42] <craigyboytaz> did you read that link i sent?
[20:43] <sabhain> that link is incredible .. I had pretty much decided it would be 6 months or so before trying the hdmi audio again.
[20:44] <craigyboytaz> hope it works for you mate!  can you post on the forums if it does when you get round to trying it?
[20:45] <sabhain> I built my front ends for a little bit less than that link, but they're similar in configuration.  Went with intel dual core, a 2GB CF-IDE adapter for a boot disk, and the MSI board .. then I NFS mount everything else in the boot .. and off it goes
[20:45] <sabhain> I will certainly do that when I try it ..
[20:46] <sabhain> I'll post it either way ..
[20:46] <craigyboytaz> and your rig can do 1080p at a canter?
[20:47] <sabhain> seems like it .. I've got no stutter or frame drops whatsoever .. every once in a while I have to futz with the audio sync, but I'm not convinced the problem isn't the cable company
[20:48] <sabhain> my big battle with this particular front  end (my other is DVI) is that LIRC and / or the Snapstream RF remote suck
[20:48] <craigyboytaz> tried any x264 movies?
[20:49] <sebrock_> where can I find 7.10?
[20:49] <sabhain> LIRC fails on boot, with no descriptive errors .. and then if you do a restart lirc it works fine, but irexec will fail randomly so if the front end checks out for whatever reason, you have to hook a mouse up to restart it
[20:49] <sebrock_> 8.04 is too unstable in my opinion
[20:49] <sabhain> I haven't tried any x264 movies yet .. just a few samples .. waiting on blue-ray to drop a little bit
[20:50] <sebrock_> mirror for 7.10 anyone?
[20:50] <sabhain> and on my remote problems, I'm going to move to a harmony 550 shortly.  My other front end uses an MCE remote, and I have none of these issues in that system
[20:51] <craigyboytaz> thanks mate, im off to watch the second half...might just go with quad to be safe!
[20:54] <sabhain> enjoy
[20:55] <sebrock_> why is 7.10 stopped from downloading?
[20:56] <sebrock_> I can understand if support is stopped
[20:56] <sebrock_> gah
[21:20] <a1fa> ok
[21:20] <a1fa> so whats the difference between the weekly fix
[21:20] <a1fa> weekly builds
[21:20] <a1fa> and
[21:20] <a1fa> hardy-proposed?
[21:21] <laga> weekly builds are a newer checkout from the fixes branch. hardy-proposed just contains a fix for powerpc AFAIK
[21:21] <a1fa> do you recommend weekly builds?
[21:22] <laga> i recommend using whatever works for you ;)
[21:23] <a1fa> do you use the fix?
[21:23] <laga> a1fa: i usually build my own packages every now and then
[21:23] <a1fa> i used to do that
[21:23] <a1fa> i got bored waiting 50min for it to finish :P
[21:24] <laga> the weekly builds should be OK and better than the stuff in the repos. of course, they don't receive so much testing
[21:24] <a1fa> i used to run svn
[21:31] <sabhain> anyone ever get audio echo on playback?
[21:33] <a1fa> not me
[21:35] <sabhain> really strange .. play back a recording one time & it echos .. stop it, restart it .. no echo .. ughhh
[21:39] <darthanubis> anyone ever get totem mythtv plugin to work?
[21:42] <darthanubis> superm1, ok well its broken
[22:02] <tgm4883_laptop> darthanubis, yea the plugin works
[22:02] <tgm4883_laptop> not the most straight forward to configure though
[22:03] <darthanubis> I configured it and it populated the videos to the left in the pane
[22:03] <darthanubis> but never played a one
[22:03] <darthanubis> it claimed the data stream was empty
[22:03] <darthanubis> error 311
[23:55] <Egghead2> trying to get mythweb to stream music to a winxp pc, but wmp keeps erroring, with cant find server. any ideas?