/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/19/#kubuntu-devel.txt

timboyanyone know what's the new latest greatest that ubuntu/kubuntu is working on for 8.10? I haven't heard much...00:15
yuriytimboy: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs00:40
timboythx yuriy00:41
yuriywow 4.1 looks amazing, thanks apachelogger!!01:00
yuriyoh no the taskbar is back to only showing one row01:02
nixternalDear new member,01:05
nixternalWelcome to the KDE e.V.01:05
nixternaltoday is just chocked full of good news for me :)01:05
yuriyheh, congrats again nixternal01:05
Jucatogaaaah!!! nixternal's a new e.V. member?!?!01:13
Jucatowhat a terrible thing to wake up to...01:14
vorianwhoa! congrats nixternal :)01:14
nixternalhehe01:15
JucatoKDE has now been infiltrated by Microvell....01:15
Jucatonixternal: congrats!!!!! :D01:15
Jucato(it's about time)01:15
nixternalso, today I made the KDE e.V. and an Ubuntu Core Developer01:15
nixternalnot to shabby01:15
nixternalI think that now means I am required to work harder01:15
Jucatocongrats to both! :)01:15
Jucatoyeah... riiiiight :)01:15
nixternalI think to celebrate, I will have a nice Chicago style pizza and some wonderful Chicago style beer :)01:16
Jucatoyum01:17
Jucato(though I don't know how those taste like)01:17
crimsun_congrats, rich!01:27
nixternalthank you sir01:28
crimsun_now I know who to spam^Wask for uploads!01:28
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EagleScreengdebi-kde does not run in Debian, is Canonical upstream developper of gdebi packages?02:59
EagleScreenDolphin has a servicemenu for compress with Ark, this servicemenu file comes from dolphin package or Ark package???03:02
nixternalsudo apt-get source dolphin03:03
EagleScreeni was looking for it in Dolphin sources, downloaded as you say03:04
Jucatohm.. afaik I put the service menu in the dolphin package03:04
Jucatod3lphin actually03:04
EagleScreeni think current servicemenu has a bug03:05
JucatoI wouldn't be surprised if it had lots :)03:05
EagleScreeni reported it on launchpad some time ago, but nobody do nothing03:05
Jucatoit was a very quick hack to provide some sense of sanity to an otherwise insane file manager ;)03:05
Jucato(of course hoping you're referring to d3lphin/dolphin kde3)03:06
EagleScreeni have maked an alternative servicemenu for ark, which has the bug fixed, yes i refer d3lphin of KDE303:06
nixternalg'nite all!03:09
nixternalsee ya in the morning :)03:09
Jucatobye nixternal!!!03:10
JucatoEagleScreen: did you attach your alternative in the bug report?03:10
EagleScreenyes, i did it03:10
* Jucato doesn't know who to poke about it03:10
Jucatocan you give the link to the bug?03:10
EagleScreenyes, a momment, please03:11
EagleScreeni am looking for the report03:15
EagleScreeni ma not good for search on launchpad, sorry03:15
EagleScreeni have got it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/18579503:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 185795 in dolphin "Ark compression with dolphin bad configured." [Undecided,New]03:16
EagleScreenyes, it is, what is your opinion about the bug and about my modified servicemenu?03:19
DASkreECHNixternal got a job!!03:25
JucatoEagleScreen: it does say to submit a debdiff for it. that's how it's usually done. I bet you can get help about making one here (later maybe.. when people are awake)03:31
EagleScreenJucato: i readed making debdiff, but i dont know hot to do it becouse i didn't find servicemenu file in d3lphin package03:42
EagleScreenin addiction i have never done one debdiff03:42
ScottK-laptopI don't think we're going to use d3lphin in Intrepid, so I'm not sure how much effort it is worth to fix at this point.03:55
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ScottK-laptopEagleScreen: I suspect kubuntu-default-settings is the package you want.04:04
ScottK-laptopIt'd be good to find out if dolphin for kde4 has the same problem.04:04
JucatoScottK-laptop: if you're referring to the ark_compress.desktop servicemenu, it's in the dolphin (d3lphin) package04:05
ScottK-laptopJucato: OK.  I was going on he said it wasn't there.04:05
Jucatoit's there. but I'm betting he just opened the orig.tar.gz and expected it to be there04:06
ScottK-laptopkubuntu-default-settings has some of the servicemenus in it.04:06
ScottK-laptopAh.04:06
* Jucato was the one who added the service menu :P04:06
Jucatothough I can't remember now how I did it actually04:06
Jucatoand I suck at making debdiffs.. so I'm ofno use now04:06
Jucato"of no"04:06
ScottK-laptopNo problem.  nixternal will fix everything now.04:07
JucatoScottK-laptop, EagleScreen: the root of the problem is that d3lphin sucks... and basically the right-click menu to compress files with Ark in Konqueror is not a service menu. it's a plugin from Ark04:08
ScottK-laptopRight.  So move on I guess.04:08
* yuriy does magic disk space recovery. cd /home/kde-devel/kde/src/kdebase; make clean04:08
Jucatobut since no such plugin exists for D3lphin (and apparently not for Dolphin either), I whipped up that service menu.. but now I'm having a hard time remembering why I used %u instead of04:08
Jucato%U04:09
ScottK-laptopyuriy: rm -rf saves more.04:09
* ScottK-laptop decides to head back into the kitchen and clean some more.04:09
JucatoEagleScreen: sorry I can't help you with making the debdiff... I barely got through it on my own myself.. and that was almost half a year ago. but your service menu looks quite alright from where I'm standing. all you're missing it the debdiff04:11
yuriyScottK-laptop: no rm -rfing anything between 11pm and 11am04:11
ScottKTo make a debdiff ...04:11
ScottKyuriy: No sense of adventure.04:11
JucatoScottK: I've had enough of Debian packaging tbh... I concluded that it hates me :)04:12
ScottKdebdiff package-version-revisonx.dsc package-version-revisony.dsc > name.of.your.debdiff04:12
EagleScreenjucato: sorry i was away04:41
EagleScreeni dont know how to do debdiff04:42
EagleScreeni will investigate it when i have time :)04:47
EagleScreenuses Dolphin-kde4 the same servicemenus than d3lphin???04:50
DASkreECHnot the same AFAIK04:53
* ScottK teaches python-kde3 not to need libkonsolpart.so so it'll work in Intrepid using the highly complex method of merging the new upstream from Debian that drops it.04:58
ScottKRiddell: python-kde3 libkonsolpart.so problem is solved.05:59
ScottK(for the correct spelling of that file).06:00
DASkreECHare there packages for Koffice alpha 8 ?06:00
yao_ziyuanjust to remind kubuntu + firefox 3 users, i found a perfect firefox theme for firefox 3 under kubuntu, which solves the ugly tabs problem: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/451706:59
yao_ziyuanthe firefox theme i mentioned just now draws menus badly. here is a better one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/737907:12
\shcongrats apachelogger07:17
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Arbymorning08:02
eagles0513875anyone in here this morning i have a weird question08:58
eagles0513875in regards to open office and updating ones machine after a fresh install08:59
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Tonio_hi there11:37
Tonio_just testing kde4 since my driver now seems to be stable....11:37
Tonio_I can't find the way to switch konqueror to webkit, does this need a specific package ?11:37
Jucatosomething like a webkit kdepart I think11:41
JucatoKDE 4 doesn't have it built-in11:41
RiddellTonio_: you'd need to compile kdewebkit for that from svn11:41
Riddellno idea if it works currently11:41
nixternalmornin'11:45
nixternalit works, or at least it worked11:45
nixternalkdewebkit that is11:45
Jucatomoin nixternal, Riddell!11:51
Tonio_Riddell: oki :)11:52
Tonio_nixternal: I completly forgot you........ sorry for this11:54
Jucatoyou can't forget him now. he's a core-dev(il)!11:55
nixternalTonio_: that is OK, I understand the situation :)11:55
Tonio_nixternal: bah it's a bit complicated for me atm since I don't have an appartment ans therefore no internet connection in the evening...11:57
smarterRiddell: do you know where this kdewebkit is located on the SVN?12:04
Tonio_Riddell: also, my desktop directories don't seem to be parsed.... I only have kde3 stuff in the menu, is that known problem ?12:06
nixternalsmarter: somewhere in either playground or keg12:07
Riddellsmarter: playground I expect12:07
RiddellTonio_: not known, what distro and kde version?12:08
smarterfound :)12:08
smarterhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/libs/webkitkde/12:08
smarterdo you think it's worth packaging it?12:08
Riddellsmarter: I packaged it for hardy but removed before release since people were complaining12:09
Tonio_Riddell: hardy, kde4.1 beta12:09
Riddellsmarter: if you have konqueror working in intrepid do try it out and see if it's worth re-packaging12:09
smartercomplaining about what?12:09
smarterok12:09
Riddellsmarter: that it didn't work well enough12:10
Tonio_Riddell: my $path seems to be aoky12:10
Tonio_okay12:10
RiddellTonio_: dunno, hardy is old :)12:10
* smarter is currently running on hardy + kde4 daily build12:10
Tonio_Riddell: hehe I know :)12:10
nixternalanyone try any of the daily builds yet?12:12
nixternaland how come Alpha 1 hasn't been released yet?12:12
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smarterthe webkit part works great12:21
Czessimorning12:21
Czessidid someone work on konq-plugins for kde4?12:21
Tm_Thi kids12:24
RiddellCzessi: where is it?12:25
RiddellCzessi: I mean is it still in svn?  kdeaddons seems to be dead12:25
Riddellsmarter: how well do widgets work?  tried flash?12:26
CzessiRiddell: it's in extragear-base. i've build a test packages and it works http://czessi.kubuntu-de.org/images/konq-plugins.png12:26
* smarter tries12:26
RiddellCzessi: nice12:26
CzessiRiddell: i can upload the package to revu when it's finished12:26
RiddellCzessi: please do12:27
Czessiok12:27
smarterflash works12:27
Riddellsmarter: sounding good12:28
Riddellsmarter: how about the ultimate test.. gmail12:28
smarter:D12:29
* smarter tries12:29
smarterhttp://google.com/ig works too12:29
Riddellthat works in khtml12:29
smartergmail works, but sometimes when you click on a link, nothing happens(except the little yellow box showing "Loading" appears)12:32
smarteridentificated as Firefox 2.0.0.812:33
smarterI tried to use Safari 2.0 user agent but it doesn't work at all12:33
smarterwill Qt 4.4.1 be released with a more recent version of WebKit?12:36
Riddellsmarter: I don't know12:42
Riddellsmarter: however it sounds good to package so dig out the old packaging if you can or just do it from scratch12:43
piquadratHi! I use the kde4.1 beta packages from kubuntu-members-kde4. I noticed that knetattach-kde4 is not available in it. Is there some other source for that package (besides of compiling it myself, for which I do not have time right now)?12:45
smarterRiddell: okay, what was the name of the package?12:48
eagles0513875Riddell: are there some issues with repos when updates are released12:51
Riddellsmarter: kdewebkit12:53
Riddelleagles0513875: no12:53
eagles0513875Riddell: thats funny when i run sudo apt-get update on 2 repos i get a hash error or something along those lines12:54
Hobbseetry it again.12:54
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i do and it says the same thing again or instead of updating i just run sudo apt-get upgrade12:55
eagles0513875it updates fine where there are no updated pkgs12:55
Hobbseethen you need to contact the owners of the mirrors that you're using.12:55
Hobbseeor try to use a different one.12:56
smarterRiddell: I can't find it, do you have a copy of it?12:57
Riddellsmarter: ah, wrong name https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkitkde/0~svn750780-0ubuntu113:00
Riddellsmarter: update the cdbs files with the current ones from kdepimlibs in intrepid13:01
Riddellpiquadrat: kdebase-runtime/debian/kdebase-runtime.install:usr/lib/kde4/libexec/knetattach13:06
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smarterRiddell: will do13:08
smarterRiddell: I only need cdbs/kde.mk no?13:13
Riddellsmarter: shrug, I'd just copy al four13:25
dwidmannooh, this looks fun: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3919c3c13:35
eagles0513875fyi the bot is no longer in the kubuntu channel13:42
Jucatoeagles0513875: <-- ubottu has left this server (No route to host).13:44
eagles0513875yep13:44
Jucatoit's in no channel. period. :)13:44
* dwidmann reckons the solution would be to bug jussio about it13:45
eagles0513875lol13:45
eagles0513875jussio1: hey13:45
eagles0513875dwidmann: lol13:45
Hobbseeapparently he's in transit13:53
eagles0513875lol14:01
eagles0513875Hobbsee: talking about the bott being in transit14:02
Hobbseeno, jussio114:02
Hobbseeso he probably won't bring the bot back for a while.14:02
eagles0513875gotcah14:02
eagles0513875gotta say that bot really grows on ya14:02
tonio_Riddell: I just tried to upgrade to intrepid....14:21
tonio_Riddell: is it me or are the kubuntu*desktop metapackages completly broken ?14:22
tonio_Riddell: they refer to non existing packages, etc...14:22
Riddellvery likely14:22
Riddellkubuntu-kde4-desktop is dead14:22
tonio_Riddell: kubuntu-desktop is too :)14:22
Riddellkubuntu-desktop I updated yesterday, should work in theory14:22
tonio_Riddell: what can I install to have a minimal config working ?14:22
Riddelldunno, I've not tried installing intrepid14:23
tonio_Riddell: kubuntu-desktop is broken for me.... lemme look14:23
tonio_Riddell: to make it simple, kubuntu-desktop depends on (an example) kmail14:25
tonio_kmail depends on kdesktop, which has a strict dependancy on 3.5.9 for kdebase-bin14:25
Riddellkmail 4.0.80 compiled 20 hours ago14:26
tonio_Riddell: which is 4.0.80 :)14:26
tonio_hum okay lemme look again then14:26
dwidmanntonio: 4.1 beta14:26
Riddellstuck in New I expect14:26
tonio_Riddell: then it didn't reach the repos I'm using14:26
Riddellblame seb128 for not processing New yesterday14:27
tonio_Riddell: no problem :)14:29
tonio_Riddell: as long as I have a network connection and a shell, I'm fine :)14:29
piquadratRiddell: sorry, I had to leave for a meeting. Concerning knetattach: when I go to "Network Folders/Add Network Folder" in Konqueror, it tells me "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/knetattach'". I made a symbolic link to that location and now it works14:32
tonio_Riddell: also, kubuntu-desktop depends several packages conflicting each other14:34
tonio_Riddell: khelpcenter and khelpcenter4 for example14:35
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Riddellapachelogger: how about announcing kde nightly on Dot News?15:41
Riddellso, beta 2, who wants to build it for hardy?15:59
Riddellstdin maybe?16:00
* Arby runs and hides16:02
RiddellArby: I uploaded rsibreak thanks16:02
RiddellArby: no beta 2 extragear packages have appeared yet I'm afraid16:02
ArbyRiddell: thanks for the upload16:04
Arbyit failed to build on ppc16:04
Arbywith cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-mmmx"16:04
Arbywhatever that means16:04
smarterRiddell: the only remaining bit of KDE3 in intrepid will be kdelibs?16:41
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Riddellsmarter: and applications that don't have a kde 4 version16:50
smarterokay16:50
* smarter updates kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts16:51
RiddellArby: I wouldn't care about ppc, i386 and amd64 are the only supported ones16:51
Arbyok16:51
ArbyRiddell: any progress on kdepim, it's the major block on kopete-cryptography merging16:52
Arbywhich is the last thing in extragear16:52
RiddellArby: it's in new16:52
Arbyexcellent16:52
Arbyis it likely to reach repos sometime soon then?16:52
Arbyif so I can try again this weekend16:53
Arbyprobably just before beta2 appears :)16:53
RiddellArby: I'll let it through now, yesterday's archive admin failed to process New16:55
Arbythanks16:55
ArbyRiddell: what's the plan for 4.1? are we going to package beta's as they appear until final arrives?16:56
RiddellArby: beta 2 then rc then final I tihnk16:57
Riddellthink16:57
Riddellthen .1 .2 etc ..16:57
Riddellit's a never ending task I'm afraid16:58
Arbyhow does that fit with import freezes etc?16:58
ArbyI don't mind work, just trying to understand what's involved16:58
Arbyare we going to need a lot of exceptions16:58
Riddellit should be excempt from freezes since it's known to stabalise on a clear timetable that fits in with our release16:59
Arbyok17:07
* stdin was going to upgrade to intrepid, but it makes aptitude "Abort."17:25
Riddellstdin: I wouldn't yet17:29
stdinyeah, I've already changed my sources back to hardy for now17:29
apacheloggerRiddell: as long as you use a home-compiled KDE intrepid works just fine ;-) ... I'll try to find some time for the dot news17:41
apacheloggerreally busy with exams right now17:42
smarter_Riddell: could you please review revision 21 of kks? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts/trunk18:01
ScottKnixternal: Congratulations.  Go upload something.18:15
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* ryanakca cheers nixternal18:17
ryanakcaRiddell: ping, feel like giving the website one last look before I ask Ng to redirect the DNS?18:22
nixternalyo yo! gimme sumpin' to upload :)18:31
nixternalactually, I am getting ready for a pub luncheon today :)18:31
Tm_Tmmmmgh19:07
EagleScreenhow can i validate mi GPG on Launchpad? i am reading wiki and it give me this link: https://launchpad.net/~<username>/+editpgpkeys nut it semms to be broken19:10
EagleScreensorry is this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/https%3a//launchpad.net/%7e%3cusername%3e/+editpgpkeys19:11
ScottKWhat's your Launchpad username?19:26
yuriyfor whoever is working on beta2 packages for PPA: bug 24019720:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 240197 in kdesdk-kde4 "kdesdk-dbg-kde4 has typo in dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24019720:02
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Riddellnixternal: akode if you're looking for merges22:47
* nixternal hides22:47
nixternalI might have a bit of time tonight to do some merging22:47
nixternalif not, I have an entire weekend set aside just for Riddell :)22:47
nixternaland on that note, it is time to start heading to the train22:48
nixternalcya in a bit22:48
EagleScreeni am learning to use pbuilder :D22:48
EagleScreenwhat happens if I am running Debian, but i want to build a package for Hardy?22:50
RiddellEagleScreen: you should be able to set in pbuilderrc for it to use hardy instead of unstable23:28
EagleScreenThanks Riddel, now I unserstand that it should be sufficient to pbuilder uses hardy packages23:32
EagleScreenRidell, i think a must have a sintax error in my .pbuilderrc23:40
EagleScreenubuntu dists try to use debian mirror in place of ubuntu mirror23:41

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