[00:15] anyone know what's the new latest greatest that ubuntu/kubuntu is working on for 8.10? I haven't heard much... [00:40] timboy: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs [00:41] thx yuriy [01:00] wow 4.1 looks amazing, thanks apachelogger!! [01:02] oh no the taskbar is back to only showing one row [01:05] Dear new member, [01:05] Welcome to the KDE e.V. [01:05] today is just chocked full of good news for me :) [01:05] heh, congrats again nixternal [01:13] gaaaah!!! nixternal's a new e.V. member?!?! [01:14] what a terrible thing to wake up to... [01:14] whoa! congrats nixternal :) [01:15] hehe [01:15] KDE has now been infiltrated by Microvell.... [01:15] nixternal: congrats!!!!! :D [01:15] (it's about time) [01:15] so, today I made the KDE e.V. and an Ubuntu Core Developer [01:15] not to shabby [01:15] I think that now means I am required to work harder [01:15] congrats to both! :) [01:15] yeah... riiiiight :) [01:16] I think to celebrate, I will have a nice Chicago style pizza and some wonderful Chicago style beer :) [01:17] yum [01:17] (though I don't know how those taste like) [01:27] congrats, rich! [01:28] thank you sir [01:28] now I know who to spam^Wask for uploads! === gribelu` is now known as gribelu [02:59] gdebi-kde does not run in Debian, is Canonical upstream developper of gdebi packages? [03:02] Dolphin has a servicemenu for compress with Ark, this servicemenu file comes from dolphin package or Ark package??? [03:03] sudo apt-get source dolphin [03:04] i was looking for it in Dolphin sources, downloaded as you say [03:04] hm.. afaik I put the service menu in the dolphin package [03:04] d3lphin actually [03:05] i think current servicemenu has a bug [03:05] I wouldn't be surprised if it had lots :) [03:05] i reported it on launchpad some time ago, but nobody do nothing [03:05] it was a very quick hack to provide some sense of sanity to an otherwise insane file manager ;) [03:06] (of course hoping you're referring to d3lphin/dolphin kde3) [03:06] i have maked an alternative servicemenu for ark, which has the bug fixed, yes i refer d3lphin of KDE3 [03:09] g'nite all! [03:09] see ya in the morning :) [03:10] bye nixternal!!! [03:10] EagleScreen: did you attach your alternative in the bug report? [03:10] yes, i did it [03:10] * Jucato doesn't know who to poke about it [03:10] can you give the link to the bug? [03:11] yes, a momment, please [03:15] i am looking for the report [03:15] i ma not good for search on launchpad, sorry [03:16] i have got it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/185795 [03:16] Launchpad bug 185795 in dolphin "Ark compression with dolphin bad configured." [Undecided,New] [03:19] yes, it is, what is your opinion about the bug and about my modified servicemenu? [03:25] Nixternal got a job!! [03:31] EagleScreen: it does say to submit a debdiff for it. that's how it's usually done. I bet you can get help about making one here (later maybe.. when people are awake) [03:42] Jucato: i readed making debdiff, but i dont know hot to do it becouse i didn't find servicemenu file in d3lphin package [03:42] in addiction i have never done one debdiff [03:55] I don't think we're going to use d3lphin in Intrepid, so I'm not sure how much effort it is worth to fix at this point. === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [04:04] EagleScreen: I suspect kubuntu-default-settings is the package you want. [04:04] It'd be good to find out if dolphin for kde4 has the same problem. [04:05] ScottK-laptop: if you're referring to the ark_compress.desktop servicemenu, it's in the dolphin (d3lphin) package [04:05] Jucato: OK. I was going on he said it wasn't there. [04:06] it's there. but I'm betting he just opened the orig.tar.gz and expected it to be there [04:06] kubuntu-default-settings has some of the servicemenus in it. [04:06] Ah. [04:06] * Jucato was the one who added the service menu :P [04:06] though I can't remember now how I did it actually [04:06] and I suck at making debdiffs.. so I'm ofno use now [04:06] "of no" [04:07] No problem. nixternal will fix everything now. [04:08] ScottK-laptop, EagleScreen: the root of the problem is that d3lphin sucks... and basically the right-click menu to compress files with Ark in Konqueror is not a service menu. it's a plugin from Ark [04:08] Right. So move on I guess. [04:08] * yuriy does magic disk space recovery. cd /home/kde-devel/kde/src/kdebase; make clean [04:08] but since no such plugin exists for D3lphin (and apparently not for Dolphin either), I whipped up that service menu.. but now I'm having a hard time remembering why I used %u instead of [04:09] %U [04:09] yuriy: rm -rf saves more. [04:09] * ScottK-laptop decides to head back into the kitchen and clean some more. [04:11] EagleScreen: sorry I can't help you with making the debdiff... I barely got through it on my own myself.. and that was almost half a year ago. but your service menu looks quite alright from where I'm standing. all you're missing it the debdiff [04:11] ScottK-laptop: no rm -rfing anything between 11pm and 11am [04:11] To make a debdiff ... [04:11] yuriy: No sense of adventure. [04:12] ScottK: I've had enough of Debian packaging tbh... I concluded that it hates me :) [04:12] debdiff package-version-revisonx.dsc package-version-revisony.dsc > name.of.your.debdiff [04:41] jucato: sorry i was away [04:42] i dont know how to do debdiff [04:47] i will investigate it when i have time :) [04:50] uses Dolphin-kde4 the same servicemenus than d3lphin??? [04:53] not the same AFAIK [04:58] * ScottK teaches python-kde3 not to need libkonsolpart.so so it'll work in Intrepid using the highly complex method of merging the new upstream from Debian that drops it. [05:59] Riddell: python-kde3 libkonsolpart.so problem is solved. [06:00] (for the correct spelling of that file). [06:00] are there packages for Koffice alpha 8 ? [06:59] just to remind kubuntu + firefox 3 users, i found a perfect firefox theme for firefox 3 under kubuntu, which solves the ugly tabs problem: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4517 [07:12] the firefox theme i mentioned just now draws menus badly. here is a better one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7379 [07:17] <\sh> congrats apachelogger === pgquiles__ is now known as pgquiles [08:02] morning [08:58] anyone in here this morning i have a weird question [08:59] in regards to open office and updating ones machine after a fresh install === milian_ is now known as milian [11:37] hi there [11:37] just testing kde4 since my driver now seems to be stable.... [11:37] I can't find the way to switch konqueror to webkit, does this need a specific package ? [11:41] something like a webkit kdepart I think [11:41] KDE 4 doesn't have it built-in [11:41] Tonio_: you'd need to compile kdewebkit for that from svn [11:41] no idea if it works currently [11:45] mornin' [11:45] it works, or at least it worked [11:45] kdewebkit that is [11:51] moin nixternal, Riddell! [11:52] Riddell: oki :) [11:54] nixternal: I completly forgot you........ sorry for this [11:55] you can't forget him now. he's a core-dev(il)! [11:55] Tonio_: that is OK, I understand the situation :) [11:57] nixternal: bah it's a bit complicated for me atm since I don't have an appartment ans therefore no internet connection in the evening... [12:04] Riddell: do you know where this kdewebkit is located on the SVN? [12:06] Riddell: also, my desktop directories don't seem to be parsed.... I only have kde3 stuff in the menu, is that known problem ? [12:07] smarter: somewhere in either playground or keg [12:07] smarter: playground I expect [12:08] Tonio_: not known, what distro and kde version? [12:08] found :) [12:08] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/libs/webkitkde/ [12:08] do you think it's worth packaging it? [12:09] smarter: I packaged it for hardy but removed before release since people were complaining [12:09] Riddell: hardy, kde4.1 beta [12:09] smarter: if you have konqueror working in intrepid do try it out and see if it's worth re-packaging [12:09] complaining about what? [12:09] ok [12:10] smarter: that it didn't work well enough [12:10] Riddell: my $path seems to be aoky [12:10] okay [12:10] Tonio_: dunno, hardy is old :) [12:10] * smarter is currently running on hardy + kde4 daily build [12:10] Riddell: hehe I know :) [12:12] anyone try any of the daily builds yet? [12:12] and how come Alpha 1 hasn't been released yet? === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [12:21] the webkit part works great [12:21] morning [12:21] did someone work on konq-plugins for kde4? [12:24] hi kids [12:25] Czessi: where is it? [12:25] Czessi: I mean is it still in svn? kdeaddons seems to be dead [12:26] smarter: how well do widgets work? tried flash? [12:26] Riddell: it's in extragear-base. i've build a test packages and it works http://czessi.kubuntu-de.org/images/konq-plugins.png [12:26] * smarter tries [12:26] Czessi: nice [12:26] Riddell: i can upload the package to revu when it's finished [12:27] Czessi: please do [12:27] ok [12:27] flash works [12:28] smarter: sounding good [12:28] smarter: how about the ultimate test.. gmail [12:29] :D [12:29] * smarter tries [12:29] http://google.com/ig works too [12:29] that works in khtml [12:32] gmail works, but sometimes when you click on a link, nothing happens(except the little yellow box showing "Loading" appears) [12:33] identificated as Firefox 2.0.0.8 [12:33] I tried to use Safari 2.0 user agent but it doesn't work at all [12:36] will Qt 4.4.1 be released with a more recent version of WebKit? [12:42] smarter: I don't know [12:43] smarter: however it sounds good to package so dig out the old packaging if you can or just do it from scratch [12:45] Hi! I use the kde4.1 beta packages from kubuntu-members-kde4. I noticed that knetattach-kde4 is not available in it. Is there some other source for that package (besides of compiling it myself, for which I do not have time right now)? [12:48] Riddell: okay, what was the name of the package? [12:51] Riddell: are there some issues with repos when updates are released [12:53] smarter: kdewebkit [12:53] eagles0513875: no [12:54] Riddell: thats funny when i run sudo apt-get update on 2 repos i get a hash error or something along those lines [12:54] try it again. [12:55] Hobbsee: i do and it says the same thing again or instead of updating i just run sudo apt-get upgrade [12:55] it updates fine where there are no updated pkgs [12:55] then you need to contact the owners of the mirrors that you're using. [12:56] or try to use a different one. [12:57] Riddell: I can't find it, do you have a copy of it? [13:00] smarter: ah, wrong name https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkitkde/0~svn750780-0ubuntu1 [13:01] smarter: update the cdbs files with the current ones from kdepimlibs in intrepid [13:06] piquadrat: kdebase-runtime/debian/kdebase-runtime.install:usr/lib/kde4/libexec/knetattach === blizzzekski is now known as blizzzek [13:08] Riddell: will do [13:13] Riddell: I only need cdbs/kde.mk no? [13:25] smarter: shrug, I'd just copy al four [13:35] ooh, this looks fun: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3919c3c [13:42] fyi the bot is no longer in the kubuntu channel [13:44] eagles0513875: <-- ubottu has left this server (No route to host). [13:44] yep [13:44] it's in no channel. period. :) [13:45] * dwidmann reckons the solution would be to bug jussio about it [13:45] lol [13:45] jussio1: hey [13:45] dwidmann: lol [13:53] apparently he's in transit [14:01] lol [14:02] Hobbsee: talking about the bott being in transit [14:02] no, jussio1 [14:02] so he probably won't bring the bot back for a while. [14:02] gotcah [14:02] gotta say that bot really grows on ya [14:21] Riddell: I just tried to upgrade to intrepid.... [14:22] Riddell: is it me or are the kubuntu*desktop metapackages completly broken ? [14:22] Riddell: they refer to non existing packages, etc... [14:22] very likely [14:22] kubuntu-kde4-desktop is dead [14:22] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop is too :) [14:22] kubuntu-desktop I updated yesterday, should work in theory [14:22] Riddell: what can I install to have a minimal config working ? [14:23] dunno, I've not tried installing intrepid [14:23] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop is broken for me.... lemme look [14:25] Riddell: to make it simple, kubuntu-desktop depends on (an example) kmail [14:25] kmail depends on kdesktop, which has a strict dependancy on 3.5.9 for kdebase-bin [14:26] kmail 4.0.80 compiled 20 hours ago [14:26] Riddell: which is 4.0.80 :) [14:26] hum okay lemme look again then [14:26] tonio: 4.1 beta [14:26] stuck in New I expect [14:26] Riddell: then it didn't reach the repos I'm using [14:27] blame seb128 for not processing New yesterday [14:29] Riddell: no problem :) [14:29] Riddell: as long as I have a network connection and a shell, I'm fine :) [14:32] Riddell: sorry, I had to leave for a meeting. Concerning knetattach: when I go to "Network Folders/Add Network Folder" in Konqueror, it tells me "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/knetattach'". I made a symbolic link to that location and now it works [14:34] Riddell: also, kubuntu-desktop depends several packages conflicting each other [14:35] Riddell: khelpcenter and khelpcenter4 for example === gribelu_ is now known as gribelu [15:41] apachelogger: how about announcing kde nightly on Dot News? [15:59] so, beta 2, who wants to build it for hardy? [16:00] stdin maybe? [16:02] * Arby runs and hides [16:02] Arby: I uploaded rsibreak thanks [16:02] Arby: no beta 2 extragear packages have appeared yet I'm afraid [16:04] Riddell: thanks for the upload [16:04] it failed to build on ppc [16:04] with cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-mmmx" [16:04] whatever that means [16:41] Riddell: the only remaining bit of KDE3 in intrepid will be kdelibs? === rraphink is now known as raphink [16:50] smarter: and applications that don't have a kde 4 version [16:50] okay [16:51] * smarter updates kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts [16:51] Arby: I wouldn't care about ppc, i386 and amd64 are the only supported ones [16:51] ok [16:52] Riddell: any progress on kdepim, it's the major block on kopete-cryptography merging [16:52] which is the last thing in extragear [16:52] Arby: it's in new [16:52] excellent [16:52] is it likely to reach repos sometime soon then? [16:53] if so I can try again this weekend [16:53] probably just before beta2 appears :) [16:55] Arby: I'll let it through now, yesterday's archive admin failed to process New [16:55] thanks [16:56] Riddell: what's the plan for 4.1? are we going to package beta's as they appear until final arrives? [16:57] Arby: beta 2 then rc then final I tihnk [16:57] think [16:57] then .1 .2 etc .. [16:58] it's a never ending task I'm afraid [16:58] how does that fit with import freezes etc? [16:58] I don't mind work, just trying to understand what's involved [16:58] are we going to need a lot of exceptions [16:59] it should be excempt from freezes since it's known to stabalise on a clear timetable that fits in with our release [17:07] ok [17:25] * stdin was going to upgrade to intrepid, but it makes aptitude "Abort." [17:29] stdin: I wouldn't yet [17:29] yeah, I've already changed my sources back to hardy for now [17:41] Riddell: as long as you use a home-compiled KDE intrepid works just fine ;-) ... I'll try to find some time for the dot news [17:42] really busy with exams right now [18:01] Riddell: could you please review revision 21 of kks? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts/trunk [18:15] nixternal: Congratulations. Go upload something. === smarter_ is now known as smarter [18:17] * ryanakca cheers nixternal [18:22] Riddell: ping, feel like giving the website one last look before I ask Ng to redirect the DNS? [18:31] yo yo! gimme sumpin' to upload :) [18:31] actually, I am getting ready for a pub luncheon today :) [19:07] mmmmgh [19:10] how can i validate mi GPG on Launchpad? i am reading wiki and it give me this link: https://launchpad.net/~/+editpgpkeys nut it semms to be broken [19:11] sorry is this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/https%3a//launchpad.net/%7e%3cusername%3e/+editpgpkeys [19:26] What's your Launchpad username? [20:02] for whoever is working on beta2 packages for PPA: bug 240197 [20:02] Launchpad bug 240197 in kdesdk-kde4 "kdesdk-dbg-kde4 has typo in dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240197 === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve === gribelu_ is now known as gribelu === fabo_ is now known as fabo === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [22:47] nixternal: akode if you're looking for merges [22:47] * nixternal hides [22:47] I might have a bit of time tonight to do some merging [22:47] if not, I have an entire weekend set aside just for Riddell :) [22:48] and on that note, it is time to start heading to the train [22:48] cya in a bit [22:48] i am learning to use pbuilder :D [22:50] what happens if I am running Debian, but i want to build a package for Hardy? [23:28] EagleScreen: you should be able to set in pbuilderrc for it to use hardy instead of unstable [23:32] Thanks Riddel, now I unserstand that it should be sufficient to pbuilder uses hardy packages [23:40] Ridell, i think a must have a sintax error in my .pbuilderrc [23:41] ubuntu dists try to use debian mirror in place of ubuntu mirror