[00:01] <Datalanche> Hey guys, I just installed Kubuntu Hardy and it went great, but after I installed all the updates, I have no sound. My audio controller is coming up in lspci as 'Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller'. Any ideas?
[00:01] <genii> !intelhda
[00:02]  * genii sips his coffee
[00:02] <genii> Datalanche: Use the latest alsa sources though
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> nice one genii
[00:02] <genii> ActionParsnip: I happen to have one of those cards :)
[00:02] <Ertain> My drives are not recognizing my audio CDs.  I try to mount them but they won't mount.  Any ideas?  The drives, nor the discs, are bad. btw.
[00:02] <Datalanche> Latest alsa sources?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> genii: do you have to mount audio cds?
[00:04] <crash_> Whats the console command to reconfigure KDE? I managed to break it again. (Not even sure how, this time.)
[00:05] <genii> Datalanche: If you read the link it used to give 1.0.14 or so as the version to download and use. But it's up to 1.0.17 or such, you can look http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download to see which
[00:05] <genii> ActionParsnip: Yes
[00:05] <genii> Wait
[00:05] <genii> ActionParsnip: Actually I'm not sure on that
[00:05] <Datalanche> uhhh, heh, this looks kinda.. not fun =/
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> genii: see :)
[00:06] <genii> Datalanche: No pain no gain
[00:06] <Datalanche> True dat
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Ertain: try sudo apt-get install kscd
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> !kscd
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Ertain: its basically a nice small cd playing app
[00:07] <genii> !info kscd
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> like cd player for win98
[00:07] <schmitty> when trying to mirror a site does anyone add any options other than -m to wget?
[00:07] <crash_> genii: Whats the dpkg-reconfigure command for KDE?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> genii: I'll field querys, you poke ubottu
[00:07] <ivan__>  hello, if i try to install something in the konsole it sends me an error that says that they found errors in ssl-cert and flashplugin-nonfree how do i fix this problems?
[00:07] <genii> ubottu poke
[00:07] <genii> Hmm
[00:08] <genii> crash_: It doesn't really have one since kubuntu is a metapackage of which kde is only a small part.
[00:08] <crash_> !fixkde
[00:09] <genii> crash_:  What is the problem first then a cure may get suggested
[00:09] <codster> Guys listne
[00:09] <crash_> genii: Machine hard-locked. After reboot, X doesnt start.
[00:09] <codster> omg you will piss your self laughing
[00:09] <codster> wait here okay?
[00:09] <codster> i want you too see this!, its not offtopic dont worry!
[00:09]  * ActionParsnip is confused
[00:10] <AwesomeGuy_> codster?
[00:10] <codster> one sec
[00:10] <codster> paste bin :D
[00:10] <AwesomeGuy_> lol
[00:10] <codster> your gunna piss your self okay?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> go for it dude
[00:11] <AwesomeGuy_> I don't see what's so funny about my code
[00:11] <AwesomeGuy_> it's just a program that deletes everything
[00:11] <AwesomeGuy_> it only works if you run it as root though
[00:11] <codster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21268/
[00:11] <codster> please do you find that funny? the kid is 11 mind you wait or 13?
[00:11] <crash_> ok, wow. Apparently KDE just disappeared from my HD.
[00:11] <AwesomeGuy_> 13
[00:11] <codster> lmfao
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> printf ("lolvirus);
[00:11] <codster> ahahha
[00:11] <codster> lmfao
[00:12] <codster> can i just say g'luck :D please!
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> Can't even do 7 lines of code without a syntax error?
[00:12] <codster> C lmfao its programmed in C
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> codster: it wont compile
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> he needs system.h
[00:12] <genii> crash_: What were you attempting to do when it locked up?
[00:12] <codster> lol
[00:12] <codster> either way
[00:12] <codster> g'luck
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> and
[00:13] <crash_> genii: I don't actually remember. It was more than 5 minutes ago. No worries, nuke and pave will fix it
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> he wont be able to rm anything unless he's logged in as root
[00:13] <codster> yeah but will only effect his machine...woopie
[00:13] <timboy> anyone know what's the new latest greatest that ubuntu/kubuntu is working on for 8.10?
[00:13] <codster> lol magent to HDD will have a better effect, better chances of going to everyones door and running this befor its "spreads"
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> codster: tell him to use void main (void) too :0
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[00:13] <genii> crash_: I'd suggest doing some diagnostic to make sure your hd is not going bad . Maybe ultimate boot cd utilities or such
[00:13] <AwesomeGuy_> http://pastebin.org/44593 this ruins your commands, like ls
[00:13] <codster> :D
[00:13] <AwesomeGuy_> brb
[00:14] <codster> i just couldnt help but post this :D
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> i like yes > /dev/null &
[00:15] <genii> timboy: Why not ask them in #kubuntu-devel
[00:15] <timboy> genii, good idea
[00:19] <codster> he cracks me up!
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> http://geektechnique.org/projects/img/geekwallpaper2.jpg
[00:26] <lonran> hi
[00:26] <lonran> any good tool for audio format conversion?
[00:29] <genii> lonran: As I pointed out to you in the other channel, ffmpeg
[00:29] <chull> greetings
[00:31] <chull> i have kubuntu gutsy (my husband's box, this is chalcedony) using his old box.. all the icons on his Task Bar just vanished!
[00:31] <DarkriftX> anyone here really good with regex?
[00:31] <chull> DarkriftX, try in #regex
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> chull: like the apps when you minimise them?
[00:31] <DarkriftX> ahh, ty
[00:32] <chull> ActionParsnip, um no like in the icons for say Xchat and Open office and firefox.. just poofed gone.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> chull: the k menu?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> chull: or on desktop??
[00:32] <chull> ActionParsnip, when you open an application it appears in the bar on the bottom .. only atm not there at all
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> chull: right click bar -> add applet
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> and add taskbar
[00:34] <chull> ok
[00:34] <chull> ActionParsnip, ty
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> chull: all good?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> chull: I'm hoping I understood you right
[00:36] <chull> ActionParsnip, you said what our son said (i phoned him) apparently something else is broken
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> chull: is that the right thing? like when you minimise an app it "vanishes"
[00:36] <chull> Craig's icons that indicate that open office is open, and xchat is open.. vanished.
[00:37] <chull> he's got launch icons on the top bar.. but no indicators on the bottom bar now
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> chull: same place, try adding "windows list menu"
[00:38] <chull> ActionParsnip, yes you *could* minimize those things to there.. but now he doesn't have the icons to minimize to
[00:38] <chull> oh ok
[00:39] <darkdelusions> chull: its sound like the taskbar is missing you can right click on the pannel and choose add to panel and readd it
[00:39] <chull> now he has teeny tiny rectangles .. but they are empty except for dots in some
[00:39] <crash_> !purekde
[00:39] <genii> systray
[00:40] <chull> they filled in !
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> chull: all good now?
[00:40] <chull> the icons don't want to move around
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> chull: can you do us a screenshot at all?
[00:41] <darkdelusions> chull: right click on the bar and choose lock panel
[00:41] <chull> um they were bigger before and showed how many he had open
[00:41] <darkdelusions> oops
[00:41] <sjr> I attempted to change the resolution on this Kubuntu box now it's stuck in 640x480
[00:41] <Datalanche> Hey guys... my sound's now up. Guide worked just fine and wasn't too painful. Thanks guys! Maybe now I can start using this awesome new PC :)
[00:41] <darkdelusions> chull: dis reguard that I rad it wrong
[00:41] <darkdelusions> wow and I can type today
[00:41] <sjr> I don't have any option to change it back
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Datalanche: enjoy bro, help where you caan :)
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> sjr: can you pastebin your xorg.conf]
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !paste | sjr
[00:43] <Datalanche> I'm sure to be around. This PC is Linux only. :) I'm really excited to try it 24/7
[00:43] <crash_> How the heck do I save a file invi?
[00:43] <crash_> *in vi
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Datalanche: most of us use it purely too, welcome to fun
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> crash_: no idea, i always use nano
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> !vi | crash_
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> not helpful
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[00:45] <crash_> indeed
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> crash_: http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html
[00:46] <chull> ActionParsnip, where to upload 3 screenshots?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> chull: imageshack / photobucket
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> something like that
[00:46] <sjr> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21275/
[00:46] <chull> crash : w
[00:46] <sjr> Isn't there a way to restore a backup file
[00:47] <sjr> it's hard to work on this computer currently
[00:47] <chull> crash or : w filename
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> sjr: you need to add some resolution stuff
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> sjr: I use nvidia
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> i'l paste you my xorg.conf ;)
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> sjr: backup yours first though
[00:48] <sjr> k
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> sjr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21276/
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> sjr: just copy the grahics bits
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> i run 1024x768
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> does anyone run any cpu monitoring apps like superkaramba etc???
[00:52] <chull> ActionParsnip, here is ONE http://img131.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img131/4958/20080618screenshot9vg6.png
[00:54] <chull> ActionParsnip, TWO http://img211.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img211/2238/20080618screenshot10gk0.png
[00:55] <Datalanche> Okay, new question. I am trying to run compiz fusion. Found this Desktop Effects in the System pane of the KMenu, I click the options and nothing happens when I hit apply
[00:55] <DanaKil> I had to reboot when I tryed the desktop effects from kubuntu but it was a bit buggy :(
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> chull: let me websearch
[00:55] <DanaKil> no reboot, just restart X
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Datalanche: you got your graphics driver installed?
[00:56] <Datalanche> ActionParsnip:  Yup, Nvidia driver is in use
[00:56] <Datalanche> hmmm, I just ran compiz in Alt+F2, and it appears to be up now
[00:56] <sjr> Thanks ActionParsnip
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> sjr: all good now?
[00:59] <sjr> yeah
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> mintness
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> sjr: no help Datalanche :) hes got nvidia issues
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> *now
[01:00] <sjr> whats the problem
[01:00] <chull> ActionParsnip, this is how it should look: http://img158.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img158/1759/screenshot7re3.png
[01:01] <chull> i don't suppose anyone else has found the new font in firefox hard to read? where can we go to change it?
[01:02] <lakis1982> how do i change my power settings ... where are they ??? i want to make the computer automatically going into sleep mode after 20 minutes of inactivity.
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> chull: right click panel -> properties
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> chull: try hitting the default button
[01:03] <lakis1982> how do i change my power settings ... where are they ??? i want to make the computer automatically going into sleep mode after 20 minutes of inactivity
[01:05] <kurumim> Boa noite a todos
[01:06] <dwidmann> lakis1982: click ont he battery in your bottom right corner
[01:06] <genii> !br | kurumim
[01:06] <kurumim> alguém sabe dizer como fazer pra ouvir audio online
[01:06] <kurumim> tipo radio uol
[01:06] <genii> !br | kurumim
[01:06] <lakis1982> i dont have any battery icon
[01:06] <genii> kurumim: English here please
[01:06] <dwidmann> lakis1982: hit alt+f2, then type in guidance-power-manager
[01:07] <darkdelusions> Stupid Question! Is there a way to make Konqueror always default to a list view :)
[01:07] <chull> lakis1982, right click on your bottom panel batteries are one of the choices
[01:07] <Kite_DH> hey guys, I got some problems. i didnt have my kubuntu pc on for a while and now the resolution is going crazy
[01:08] <chull> ActionParsnip, our 'properties' does not have a 'default'
[01:08] <lakis1982> i type the prompt u tell me and it says this is not a laptop , quiting....
[01:08] <dwidmann> darn, guess that won't help :\ ... that would be the easiest way to do it methinks
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> chull: Ive no idea then sorry. I noticed you are running gnome desktop. you'd be better asking in #ununtu
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> im outta here kids
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> im up soon
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> peace
[01:09] <genii> chull: #ubuntu   for gnome desktop, this channel for KDE desktop
[01:09] <chull> ive got gnome.. his is KDE
[01:10] <lakis1982> u mean add applet to panel?
[01:10] <chull> stupid question but DOES he have Gnome now???
[01:10] <chull> that would be a shock
[01:10] <dwidmann> lakis1982: I'm not sure if there's any good way to do it if it isn't a laptop.
[01:12] <lakis1982> anyone else ?
[01:19] <engineer> lakis1982 try klaptopdaemon
[01:20] <engineer> or kpowersave
[01:20] <engineer> but i prefer the first
[01:22] <lakis1982> how to try ?
[01:23] <lakis1982> in adept manager?
[01:23] <engineer> install the app
[01:24] <lakis1982> in adept it says it is for monitoring power for laptops ... should i install it ?
[01:24] <lakis1982> i have deesktop px
[01:24] <lakis1982> pc
[01:24] <engineer> lakis1982 those are the package names
[01:24] <engineer> search for that
[01:28] <lakis1982> i installed klaptopdaemon
[01:28] <lakis1982> what should i do ?
[01:29] <engineer> run it
[01:29] <engineer> it should be under system
[01:29] <lakis1982> it isnt
[01:30] <compilerwriter> Anyone in here use KMyMoney?  I am not having much luck finding anyone its channel
[01:30] <lakis1982> nowhere in kmenu
[01:32] <lakis1982> so ?
[01:33] <Mr_Cheeto> PennyCook, sorry it only worked for a bit
[01:33] <Mr_Cheeto> it worked for the longest time so far
[01:33] <Mr_Cheeto> but everytime i correct the problem it emerges again faster and faster
[01:34] <compilerwriter> !kmymoney
[01:34] <lakis1982> engineer?
[01:34] <_CrashMaster_2_> !info kmymoney
[01:35] <Mr_Cheeto> does anyone have any idea why my network would have a mind of its own? it just resets to some unknown setting when it wants to
[01:41] <Mr_Cheeto> gah, it happened again, and it's gonna happen again, any ideas?
[01:41] <Mr_Cheeto> it's gonna start happening faster now
[01:42] <Mr_Cheeto> is there  a way i can get drivers for my card?
[01:43] <Mr_Cheeto> please hurry, i'm sure to be kicked soon
[01:45] <Mr_Cheeto> Please, is there some way I can get drivers for my Nic?
[01:49] <Mo0oSaH> can someone post the 6 values for the their physics settings of kiba-dock?
[01:58] <damien__> Can anyone help me with a script I'm creating?
[02:00] <damien__> Can anyone help me with a bash script I'm creating?
[02:00] <engineer> ~anyone
[02:00] <engineer> shoot
[02:00] <damien__> Okay one second, let me pastebin it
[02:02] <damien__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21285/
[02:02] <damien__> I want to combine both of those scripts, kind of making a menu or something with it
[02:02] <engineer> why don't you use parameters?
[02:03] <damien__> I don't know how.
[02:03] <engineer> $2 is parameter 2
[02:03] <engineer> so
[02:03] <engineer> command -zip
[02:03]  * Jucato thinks there is a #bash or ##bash channel
[02:03] <engineer> or
[02:03] <engineer> command -rar
[02:04] <damien__> I have no idea what you're saying >_>
[02:04] <damien__> I'm extremely new to bash
[02:14] <Pixeltime> anyone know where I can get the support files to, rotate, flip, etc photos from within dolphin, it says it cant find jpegorient and it does not seem to be in sources
[02:15] <Pixeltime> which I THINK it just a script for jpegtrans, which is also not in sources
[02:17] <gettttt> Does any1 here have the RTL8187 wifi card ???
[02:18] <gettttt> working
[02:18] <lakis1982> how do i run kde-guidance-powermanager ??? itsinstalled in my computer but i dont know how to run it
[02:32] <EagleScreen> #kubuntu-es
[02:33] <lakis1982> also how do i change the setting that whenever i move mouse cursor over a windows it highlights the window
[02:41] <owlchild> !quote
[02:43]  * owlchild sings the body electric
[02:49] <riefzu> hello, where's indonesian please
[02:52] <NickPresta> !id | riefzu
[02:53] <_athos> Hello. I have the following problem: I don't know what happened, but when i'm in the login screen, after entering my username and password and pressing Enter, the screen seems to be going to kde, but the login screen is showed again. So, i'm not able to login! What could a do? My kubuntu is 7.10 and i've just tried to install the 8.04 throught the CD but i could note the my datum would be lost, so i gave up. Some suggestion?
[02:58] <EagleScreen> #kubuntu-devel
[03:00] <Jabop> Both my server and my local box have the hpn patch for openssh, but my max scp is 225 kb/s. What am I doing wrong?
[03:03] <jtisme> _athos, tried to install in the same slice as your current 7.10?
[03:04] <_athos> jtisme: sorry, but, how come?
[03:05] <jtisme> _athos i was asking you if you tried to install 8.04 in the same slice that 7.10 occupies?
[03:07] <_athos> yes! i've chosen the a Manual Partitioning and then i defined the mount point as /  and ok. But a message about formatting was showed.
[03:08] <_athos> jtisme, yes! i've chosen the a Manual Partitioning and then i defined the mount point as /  and ok. But a message about formatting and making backup was showed.
[03:09] <leandro> hellow
[03:09] <leandro> algum br?
[03:09] <_athos> eu
[03:10] <leandro> Você tá usando kubuntu tbm?
[03:10] <leandro> sou novo.. :S
[03:10] <_athos> ahh
[03:10] <leandro> mas tenho uma boa noção no ruindows..
[03:10] <leandro> Você manja bem de linux?
[03:10] <_athos> eu já uso faz um tempo mas estou tendo problemas e to tentando resolver aqui
[03:10] <_athos> hmmm...mais o menos heim...
[03:10] <leandro> Estou tentando instalar o msn
[03:10] <leandro> Já baixei o pacote
[03:11] <_athos> hmm....perai
[03:11] <leandro> tá na area de trabalho, só que não sei como dar o cmd de install
[03:11] <leandro> no terminal
[03:11] <_athos> hmm...vc baixou o amsn certo?
[03:12] <leandro> acredito que sim
[03:12] <leandro> eu até renomeiei ele
[03:12] <leandro> Mas o que não estou conseguindo mesmo, é dar o comando de install no terminal
[03:12] <_athos> como ele eh...qual é a extensão?
[03:12] <leandro> *.package
[03:14] <Jucato> !br | leandro
[03:16] <asobi> is there a linux counterpart to hjsplit?
[03:19] <sebastien_> hi, i'm on KDE and the rotate  cube won't be activated ? Is someone havin the solution ??
[03:19] <sebastien_> hi, i'm on KDE and the rotate  cube won't be activated ? Is someone havin the solution ??
[03:19] <Jabop> Hi, spam more
[03:20] <sebastien_> sorry I made it by inattetion
[03:21] <window_> meh, how can i update my nic drivers manually?
[03:27] <window_> -
[03:29] <leandro> #ubuntu-br
[03:30] <window_> any wayto manually update drivers?
[03:40] <dthacker> !video
[03:40] <dthacker> nope, not that one.
[03:40] <dthacker> !drivers
[03:41] <dthacker> window_: describe your problem, please
[03:42] <window_> well, when i start up the network works fine, then 10 minutes later it all reverts my network settings to something I can't explain, an IP like 45.61.0.72, it's not related to anything i can find, and so i have to set it back the correct way, then 5 minutes later it reverts, then 2, then 1, then soon i have to reconfigure every second
[03:51] <window_> so...what's after hardy heron?
[03:51] <dthacker> intrepid ibex.
[03:51] <window_> ooooooh, classy
[03:52] <dthacker> window_: do you have a static address or is it set by DHCP
[03:52] <dthacker> window_: wired or wireless
[03:53] <window_> i am supposed to have dhcp as it says in Windows XP, but it seems my network only works when set to manual in Kubuntu
[03:53] <window_> wired
[03:53] <myk_robinson> hey. I have APache running on my system, and i use it for Sql-ledger. If i want to play with Joomla locally, where is do i place the files?
[03:53] <myk_robinson> i guess the real question is, where is the root folder for localhost?
[03:54] <dthacker> myk_robinson: /etc/apache2/sites-available.
[03:54] <dthacker> myk_robinson: sorry, that's the config file
[03:55] <dthacker> myk_robinson: /var/www/apache2-default/
[03:55] <myk_robinson> if i wanted to try Joomla locally, would i just untar the stuff to /var/www?
[03:56] <dthacker> myk_robinson: better ask in #joomla :)  or perhaps theirs a joomla package
[03:56] <dthacker> window_: are you booted up in kubuntu now?
[03:56] <window_> si si
[03:56] <myk_robinson> okay
[03:57] <dthacker> window_: if you type "sudo ifconfig" at the command line, what is your inet address?
[03:57] <window_> !pastebin
[03:57] <dthacker> or paste it....
[03:58] <window_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21304/
[03:58] <dthacker> window_: is that manually set?
[03:59] <window_> i'm not sure, i'm afraid to open Network Manager for it might start acting up, it hasn't done anything for 30 minutes 0.o
[03:59] <doorknob60> window-: so network manager is mesing up?
[03:59] <window_> ok, when i look at the manager it doesn't say dhcp OR manual in the info pane
[04:00] <window_> it's supposed to say 192.168.1.2  dhcp  eth0 enabled device but where I put dhcp it's blank
[04:02] <dthacker> window_: what range of addresses does your dhcp server hand out.  For example, mine will assign an address between 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.119
[04:03] <window_> 0.o darn, iwould have to call to find out but i believe somewhere around 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.18, as that is the highest IP ever appinned to a device
[04:04] <dthacker> afk 5 mins....
[04:04] <flaccid> window_: its possible that your dhcp server is not working with the kubuntu client. you can kill all the dhclient processes then run one manual like sudo dhclient eth0 so you can see what happens when it tries to get dhcp renew
[04:05] <window_> No DHCP offers recieve
[04:05] <window_> recieved*
[04:06] <flaccid> contact the administrator of your dhcp server
[04:06] <window_> oh u better believe i will
[04:06] <flaccid> i've seen this quite a few times
[04:06] <flaccid> its like ms dhcp discriminates heh
[04:06] <genii> or sudo dhclient -r etho;sudo dhclient -r eth0
[04:06] <genii> bah sudo dhclient eth0 n the second command there :)
[04:08] <shadowbox> hello all
[04:10] <shadowbox> how do I get the links in my email to work?  They are blue and my curser turns into a hand and treats it like a link, but nothing happends
[04:11] <window_> gah, and it begins, i just got kicked off the network because it restarted
[04:11] <window_> by itself
[04:11] <window_> one second, i found some help
[04:13] <titanix88> hello
[04:14] <mr---t-> !hello
[04:14] <titanix88> i have an internet connection which is behind a NAT server.
[04:14] <titanix88> Now i want to share my connection with my friends by making my machine a NAT server!
[04:15] <titanix88> Is that illegal?
[04:16] <enterusername> HI
[04:16] <enterusername> HOw do you purge the settings in wlassistant
[04:16] <enterusername> for some reason settings wont erase even after purging
[04:16] <window_> !pastebin
[04:16] <enterusername> Ive changed my wireless network name
[04:17] <enterusername> and it shos the new naem but tries to conect to the old
[04:17] <enterusername> any ideas?
[04:23] <flaccid> titanix88: we are not lawyers. but should you be asking the owner of the internet account for permission :p
[04:23] <flaccid> !enter | enterusername
[04:23] <titanix88> flaccid: i was just trying to have a general idea.
[04:24] <enterusername> Sorry, does anyone have any ideas about mjy problem?
[04:26] <flaccid> titanix88: go for it :)
[04:26] <titanix88> i live in a versity resident and the ISP made a volunteer group to maintain their network. But i don't think they are going to understand my point on it.
[04:26] <flaccid> interesting
[04:26] <flaccid> enterusername: ubuntu version?
[04:26] <EightiesK> i read !audio and i still have no sound.
[04:27] <enterusername> 8.04
[04:27] <flaccid> enterusername: why are you using wlassistant
[04:28] <genii> enterusername: rm ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc                         then logout of kde and back in again
[04:28] <enterusername> because im using kde 3.5 dont know any other good utility. flaccid what would suggest?
[04:28] <flaccid> genii: remind me the history of wlassistant? did that become knetworkmanager?
[04:29] <genii> flaccid: Heh, no. I wrote the instructions earlier before I realised he wasn't using knetworkmanager
[04:29] <enterusername> lol
[04:30] <enterusername> umm ok.. well again what should i be using knetworkmanager doesnt have wpa
[04:30] <flaccid> np
[04:30] <flaccid> use knetworkmanager enterusername :)
[04:30] <flaccid> it does support wpa yes
[04:30] <flaccid> im using it atm :)
[04:30] <enterusername> really? ok ill see if it installs.. how do i get to the settings?
[04:31] <flaccid> enterusername: should be installed, just run knetworkmanager and goto the system tray icon
[04:31] <flaccid> right click it and select your network
[04:31] <genii> enterusername: You need package wpasupplicant installed but it will work with wpa
[04:31] <enterusername> ok but is there anyway to reset wlassistant
[04:32] <flaccid> enterusername: there would be, but i can't find doco on what config file it uses which is probably in your ~/ somewhere
[04:34] <genii> enterusername: If some file exists in the directory of ~/.kde/share/config      with the name wlassistant    someplace in there, delete it.
[04:35] <enterusername> thans
[04:36] <enterusername> ya it was under /root
[04:36] <flaccid> ouch, that means you ran it under root which is not what you do..
[04:36] <enterusername> thats why I was missing it.. I checked everywhere forgot it sudoed!!! So it placed it /root
[04:36] <enterusername> Well.. It runs ksudo automatically :)
[04:36] <flaccid> you don't sudo wlassistant or knetworkmanager :)
[04:36] <flaccid> oh
[04:36] <enterusername> i cant get knetworkmanager to work though... i tried..that will be for antoher time
[04:37] <flaccid> thats not great design on their behalf
[04:37] <flaccid> can explain what happens ?
[04:37] <enterusername> Well i'll come back and explain at the moment, but what happens is I run it and all that gets back is a command prompt
[04:38] <flaccid> thats because its a system tray icon?
[04:38] <enterusername> What am i looking for what pic?
[04:38] <flaccid> pic?
[04:38] <enterusername> Oh i see it. IT shows all the tabs as greyed out
[04:39] <flaccid> tabs?
[04:39]  * flaccid is more confused than the pope
[04:39] <genii> enterusername: For knetworkmanager to work with wpa, as I said earlier you need also with it the package called wpasupplicant
[04:40] <darkdelusions> isnt WPA sup installed automagically now
[04:40] <flaccid> !info wpasupplicant
[04:40] <flaccid> yeah its installed by default ^^ and would of needed to be installed to have worked before anyway..
[04:40] <genii> darkdelusions: You'd think so but it wasn't on my 7.10.I upgraded to 8.04 not clean install so dunno about fresh on that one.
[04:42] <charlie5> hi folks
[04:42] <charlie5> i have kubutnu hardy, and after installing xen, cannot get the nvidia card to work
[04:42] <charlie5> i need nvid for the dom0 but not for client doms
[04:43] <charlie5> the kubu restricted-modules package for xen is supposed to have nvidia module
[04:43] <charlie5> has anyone hre successfully used xen with a nvidia card ?
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[04:43] <flaccid> !enter | charlie5
[04:45] <darkdelusions> genil: ahhh I mainy do fresh installs my upgrade ALWAYS have issues
[04:45] <charlie5> sorry flaccid, the channel didn;t seem that busy
[04:55] <EightiesK> !sound
[04:56] <shadowbox> how do I get the links in my email to work?  They are blue and my curser turns into a hand and treats it like a link, but nothing happends
[04:58] <darkdelusions> Time to go cause myself pain and upgrade back to 8.04 bbiaf
[05:01] <enterusername> im impressed with kubuntu hardy 8.04
[05:02] <enterusername> I'm coming from gentoo ;)
[05:03] <Mr_Cheeto> hey good news!!! So when i modify my etc/network/interface file to dhcp and then ifup in konsole everything works for awhile, so how do i change this from happening? at the end it says "renewal in 37476 seconds" how do i halt that indefinitely?
[05:04] <Mr_Cheeto> anyone/
[05:04] <hotpocket> i need help
[05:04] <hotpocket> I want to install ubuntu, but I need to delete linux mint, how do i do this?
[05:05] <stdin> linux mint is ubuntu with some extra repos
[05:05] <hotpocket> i want to uninstall it
[05:05] <hotpocket> how can i install ubuntu but get rid of mint linux
[05:06] <hotpocket> just do a guided install?
[05:06] <hotpocket> or do i do a manual install and format ext3?
[05:06] <hotpocket> am i correct on what to do ?
[05:07] <stdin> which ever, as long as you format it
[05:07] <hotpocket> do?*
[05:07] <hotpocket> ok
[05:07] <hotpocket> so i boot the live cd, do manual install, and select to format ext3, correct
[05:07] <hotpocket> ?
[05:07] <stdin> yeah, that should do it
[05:07] <hotpocket> thank you
[05:08] <hotpocket> i didnt like mint linux near as much as ubuntu to be quite honest
[05:08] <hotpocket> not as fast
[05:43] <Roby718> hi
[05:44] <Roby718> #test
[05:47] <Zombie> I'd like some upgrade help. I have a Kubuntu Hardy CD and a Ubuntu DVD. I want to use thsee as my upgrade sources instead of the network.
[05:49] <suckbuntu> Are Linux secure, stable, flexible and easy to use?
[05:49] <Zombie> Please don't Troll.
[05:50] <suckbuntu> Ok.
[05:58] <judax> quiet in here
[06:00] <mr---t-> yes very
[06:16] <Olgem> I can't get konqueror to connect to any website, yet I am able to load the site's favicon. This was happening with other applications until I created a proper resolv.conf. I'm using dialup via KPPP, but I've manually added the dns servers.
[06:17] <Olgem> Would anyone know why this would be?
[06:21] <Search4Lancer> okay, so here's a problem: last night, I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04, to Firefox 3, and to KDE4. All went well with the exception of KDE4 foob'ing my desktop (i don't care right now), and the big one, damn near all text boxes in Firefox being white text on white background. I've tried changing all sorts of colors in KDE as well as in Firefox to no avail. It's really, really difficult having to highlight everything just to see
[06:21] <Search4Lancer> what I typed. Thoughts?
[06:48] <hotpocket> how do i delete a partition?
[06:49] <hotpocket> i want to switch to ubunt
[06:49] <hotpocket> ubuntu*
[06:49] <hotpocket> im in windows right now
[06:49] <akuy_> help me
[06:49] <suze> install qtparted
[06:49] <hotpocket> akuy_: whats the problem
[06:49] <akuy_> amarok cant play mp3
[06:49] <hotpocket> install totem
[06:49] <suze> !mp3
[06:49] <hotpocket> suze: will that uninstall grub if i delete the partition?
[06:50] <suze> ah you have windows
[06:50] <hotpocket> yes
[06:50] <suze> i think yes
[06:50] <hotpocket> my linux mint install got REALLY screwed up
[06:50] <suze> anyway there is the way
[06:50] <hotpocket> i need a windows program
[06:50] <suze> !grub
[06:50] <hotpocket> suze: i just need to delete the partition
[06:51] <suze> well mint is not kubuntu :)
[06:51] <hotpocket> are there any good windows partition managers?
[06:52] <hotpocket> i know, i want to switch to ubuntu
[06:52] <jussi01> !mint
[06:52] <hotpocket> tried ubuntu and loved it, is there a good windows partition manager?
[06:52] <jussi01> hotpocket: just grab the gparted live cd
[06:52] <hotpocket> >____>
[06:52] <jussi01> !gparted
[06:53] <hotpocket> i would rather not
[06:53] <suze> i have just said qtparted
[06:53] <hotpocket> my mint install got forced into 600 x 400 resolution i cant change it
[06:53] <hotpocket> so i am going to delete the partition and install ubuntu
[06:53] <jussi01> hotpocket: the kubuntu live cd can do that
[06:53] <suze> that's ok
[06:54] <hotpocket> really?
[06:54] <jussi01> yes
[06:54] <suze> take the live cd and use qtparted
[06:54] <hotpocket> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[06:54] <jussi01> !kde
[06:54] <suze> only gnome ofr ubuntu and kde for kubuntu...
[06:54] <suze> i prefer kubuntu :D
[06:54] <hotpocket> ive been using gnome for a while
[06:54] <hotpocket> will it be hard to switch to kde?
[06:54] <hotpocket> does it use apt-get?
[06:55] <suze> omg
[06:55] <hotpocket> what?
[06:55] <Zombie> I still can't get DVD  upgrade to work.
[06:56] <suze> of couse mint is a silly distro , for me , and it is Ubuntu derived distributions
[06:56] <hotpocket> ok
[06:56] <hotpocket> does kubuntu use apt-get?
[06:56] <jussi01> hotpocket: please, go read some of the kubuntu website, you should be able to find many answers there. once done, then come here and ask what is unclear to you :)
[06:56] <suze> hotpocket: i have just say yes
[06:56] <jussi01> Zombie: is it a live DVD?
[06:56] <suze> 2omg
[06:56] <hotpocket> oh ok thanks suze
[06:57] <Zombie> Its capable of being a Live DVD.
[06:57] <Zombie> It wants me to reformat, and I'm not willing to do that.
[06:57] <hotpocket> can i delete partitions in kubuntu?
[06:57] <suze> anyone know fuoco tools here?
[06:57] <suze> knows
[06:57] <jussi01> Zombie: afaik, you need the alternate cd/dvd to do an upgrade
[06:57] <suze> hotpocket: have you some problem of undestading ?
[06:58] <hotpocket> what?
[06:58] <hotpocket> im a bit tired
[06:58] <suze> hotpocket: if you want delete a partition you can use kubuntu live cd to delete what you want
[06:58] <suze> and that's is all
[06:58] <hotpocket> thanks
[06:59] <yao_ziyuan> just to remind kubuntu + firefox 3 users, i found a perfect firefox theme for firefox 3 under kubuntu, which solves the ugly tabs problem: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4517
[07:00] <Olgem> Konqueror doesn't work as a web browser right now.. So I can't get an answer from the web right now. Why am I not able to download knode from the repositories? Its unavailable but shows up in adept and apt-cache
[07:00] <Olgem> yao_ziyuan: Thanks
[07:03] <darkdelusions> Hey guys whats the ezest way to disable pulse audio in 8/04
[07:03] <darkdelusions> !pulseaudio
[07:04] <jussi01> darkdelusions: ummm, I didnt think pulse was in kubuntu
[07:06] <darkdelusions> Humm
[07:07] <darkdelusions> that throws that theroy out the window :)
[07:09] <darkdelusions> gerr Now I annoyed
[07:09] <darkdelusions> and feel really stupid
[07:11] <yao_ziyuan> the firefox theme i mentioned just now draws menus badly. here is a better one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7379
[07:21] <noaXess> hi.. and good morning
[07:26] <darkdelusions> rofl wow dolphin frightens me
[07:31] <suze> i use konquerror :)
[07:31] <suze> i love konqui
[07:31] <darkdelusions> I configured dolphin to look less stupid :)
[07:31] <darkdelusions> but will probally go back to kon
[07:31] <suze> anyone knows fuoco tools here?
[07:31] <suze> just to know if anyone uses it
[07:32] <jussi01> suze: never heard of it
[07:32] <jussi01> !find fuoco
[07:32] <suze> jussi01: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Fuoco++audio\video+converter++and+more+?content=73886
[07:32] <suze> ah
[07:33] <suze> damn
[07:33] <jussi01> suze: ahh, yeah, I saw that once
[07:35] <suze> jussi01: have you installed or not?
[07:36] <jussi01> suze: no - I remember the dev once popped into #ubuntustudio and mentioned it.
[07:37] <suze> o
[07:40] <fabio> hi all
[07:41] <fabio> there is someone that work with xerox printer
[07:41] <fabio> ?
[07:42] <jussi01> fabio: which model?
[07:42]  * jussi01 had one for a while
[07:44] <Boss> l
[07:44] <fabio> i have workprint M118 on my office ,but when i load the ppd file from cups or kde print service , it wil be loaded correctly, but when i send print test , i print about
[07:44] <fabio> 20 pages
[07:46] <fabio> jussi01 are u there ?
[07:47] <jussi01> fabio: patience, looking at some stuff
[07:47] <fabio> thankx jussi01
[07:47] <fabio> sorry for my impatience
[07:47] <fabio> :-)
[07:49] <jussi01> fabio: Im sorry there doesnt seem to be anything around that helps witht that problem - open printing just says it works mostly
[07:50] <jussi01> fabio: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Xerox-WorkCentre_M118
[07:50] <darkdelusions> Is hardy better or worse at Suspending to desk or is it about the same?
[07:52] <fabio> jussi01..i get the PPD file , and load it.. but it not work correctly
[07:52] <fabio> if i print the test
[07:52] <fabio> the test page i mean
[07:53] <fabio> i print about 20 pages , with no information ,blank page,some special char ...
[07:53] <jussi01> fabio: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[07:54] <fabio> ye
[07:54] <fabio> yes
[07:54] <fabio> for end this job i need to reset the print
[07:54] <fabio> so i switch on/off
[07:55] <fabio> jussi01... what mean that Printer does not support PJL......
[07:55] <fabio> ?
[08:07] <harmental> hey guys..after a dist-upgrade my kernel was upgraded to 2.6.24-19...howver it doesnt appear on the menu.lst after booting....any ideas???
[08:08] <rvb_> hi can somebody shed some light regarding the use of svn export command?
[08:08] <rvb_> i entered it to a live repository, it went well, files are downloaded, but when i check my website it was down
[08:08] <rvb_> i wonder if it's due to svn export?
[08:09] <rvb_> although i havent checked first if the site was down or not before i issue svn export
[08:11] <rvb_> hi can somebody shed some light regarding the use of svn export command? i entered it to a live repository, it went well, files are downloaded, but when i check my website it was down. i wonder if it's due to svn export?  although i havent checked first if the site was down or not before i issue svn export...
[08:17] <thyko> ola
[08:18] <thyko> where can i get a dvd? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ this is 640 MB, clearly a cd
[08:20] <suze> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/hardy-dvd-i386.iso
[08:21] <suze> bah
[08:24] <dwidmann_laptop> maybe the torrent?
[08:24] <dwidmann_laptop> assuming there is one
[08:27] <harmental> hey guys..after a dist-upgrade my kernel was upgraded to 2.6.24-19...howver it doesnt appear on the menu.lst after booting....any ideas???
[08:33] <tzd> Hi everyone! I'm looking for a html website GUI creation tool, any suggestions please?
[08:40] <doug_> tzd: kompozer
[08:41] <tzd> doug_: thanks! :)
[08:41] <eagles0513875> This backtrace appears to be of no use.
[08:41] <eagles0513875> This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces, or the stack frame was seriously corrupted in the crash.
[08:41] <eagles0513875> what is that supposed to mean
[08:42] <Jucato> eagles0513875: it means that there are no debugging symbols installed
[08:42] <Jucato> look for a related/associated -dbg package for what you need
[08:42] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:43] <eagles0513875> darn gmail and java script
[08:46] <eagles0513875> question in regards to linux not having any file fragmenttation how is that possible. is it because of the inodes.
[08:46] <Jucato> !defrag | eagles0513875
[08:47] <Jucato> it's not Linux per se, but the filesystem used
[08:47] <eagles0513875> Jucato: gotcha thanks
[08:48] <harmental> hey guys..after a dist-upgrade my kernel was upgraded to 2.6.24-19...howver it doesnt appear on the menu.lst after booting....any ideas???
[08:52] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: did the java work for ya
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> no, it crashed my browser when an applet was loaded
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> but i thought i needed it for youtube  etc
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> but it needs javascript which was different and already supported, so I sacked it off
[08:53] <eagles0513875> interesting cuz it never did that for me also install the flashplugin-nonfree and no issues there
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> im using the adobe one through nspluginwrapper
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> works fine
[08:53] <eagles0513875> u mean the flashplugin-nonfree
[08:54] <eagles0513875> *you
[08:54] <eagles0513875> when i installed it it also installed the nspluginwrapper
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> yeah it needs that as its a 32bit plugin
[08:54] <harmental> anyone? please??
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> i thought i could use it with java to, no dice
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> just waiting for skins for FF3 now :)
[08:55] <frogonwheels> harmental: did you try update-grub
[08:55] <eagles0513875> !patience | harmental
[08:55] <harmental> frogonwheels: ill try that..thx!
[08:56] <frogonwheels> harmental: having said that, we all get frustrated at times.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: do you know where superkaramba stores its skins etc. I have on and I wanna modify it a bit. All the walkthroughs say |/.superkaramba but there is so little in there and doesnt look intelligent to whats on screen
[08:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: no i dont havent messed around with it in kde3 im curious to find out where it is in kde4 and if the location would be the same
[08:57] <eagles0513875> !superkaramba
[08:57] <harmental> frogonwheels: no change at all...2.6.24-16 remains the newest kernel....
[08:57] <harmental> i dont get it...
[08:57] <eagles0513875> i love the way they call the widgets/gadets eye candy lol
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> i just want a sys monitor really
[08:58] <eagles0513875> same here
[08:58] <eagles0513875> come to think bout it
[08:58] <frogonwheels> harmental: erm force reinstall it?  (Shift L in aptitude I think )
[09:00] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: they call it eye candy then when you go to lad superkaramba they call them widgets
[09:01] <eagles0513875> brb need to restart my x since kicker crashed on me earlier
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> well Ive noticed that some of the superkaramba things monitor stuff I dont have, like file systems etc
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> so I need to tweak it a little
[09:02] <frogonwheels> eagles0513875: you know you can just restart it...
[09:02] <eagles0513875> frogonwheels: ctrl + alt + backspace
[09:02] <flaccid> hard killing x is bad :p
[09:03] <eagles0513875> frogonwheels: i need to do a hard reset of x cuz when kicker crashed seems like it also somehow messed up my audio in firefox
[09:03] <eagles0513875> flaccid: whats so bad about it
[09:03]  * ActionParsnip listens too
[09:03] <flaccid> it sends the kill signal and not sighup
[09:03] <frogonwheels> I had a great situation where the kde thing that logs you out wouldn't accept dbus commands.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> ahh leaky ram
[09:03] <flaccid> doesn't give programs a chance to save their configs
[09:03] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: me leaky ram
[09:03] <frogonwheels> I was using c-a-backspace for a month or so as my only way out ;)
[09:03] <flaccid> thus why they say 'loose unsaved'..
[09:04] <eagles0513875> flaccid: whats the best way to do restart x then
[09:04] <eagles0513875> is it /etc/init.d/xorg restart
[09:04] <flaccid> logout to kdm and then select restart X from the drop down
[09:04] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:04] <eagles0513875> brb
[09:04] <flaccid> or after logging out to kdm ie. no sessions, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart from another tty
[09:04] <frogonwheels> eagles0513875: does c-a-delete work?
[09:05] <flaccid> frogonwheels: why was it your only way out?
[09:05] <eagles0513875> frogonwheels: lol i dont need to reboot my whole system tyvm
[09:05] <frogonwheels> flaccid:  ermm.. in kdm .. options restart xserver
[09:05] <flaccid> frogonwheels: thats the one
[09:05] <eagles0513875> flaccid: couldnt i just do that command while logged in and restart through cli here
[09:05] <frogonwheels> flaccid:  how else do you get out if the.. ah that's right.. ksmserver  won't respond to events?
[09:05] <flaccid> eagles0513875: you could, but its not the same
[09:06] <flaccid> they made logout for a reason
[09:06] <frogonwheels> flaccid:  the logout buttons in kdm all send a dbus message to ksmserver - (session management server) that does the actual action.
[09:07] <frogonwheels> which is rather neat - but not very useful if ksmserver isn't responding. ;)
[09:07] <flaccid> frogonwheels: yes, which is far different to sending the kill 9 signal to all processes
[09:07] <flaccid> frogonwheels: well there is a lot of issues with ksmserver atm and it dies on the sighup for me but it still finishes logging out
[09:07]  * frogonwheels wishes windoze had a c-a-backspace sometimes... or even xkill.
[09:08] <flaccid> this is kde4 however for me, not kde3
[09:08] <frogonwheels> flaccid: yeah - it was kde4
[09:08] <flaccid> frogonwheels: if you have problems with kde session manager in kde3, you should report a bug
[09:08] <flaccid> ah this kde3 support channel..
[09:08] <flaccid> np
[09:09] <frogonwheels> flaccid: consider that as an anecdote rather than a problem i need fixed ;)
[09:09] <eagles0513875> that didnt work for me
[09:09] <flaccid> all problems need fixing
[09:09] <flaccid> bbs
[09:09] <eagles0513875> kdm never restarted i had to reboot my entire system
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> i find kde4 a bit twitchy
[09:10] <eagles0513875> same here
[09:10] <frogonwheels> ActionParsnip: ack.  exciting, promising - but still a bit twitchy
[09:10] <eagles0513875> i 2nd that
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> i'll install it when my updater does it while I sleep :)
[09:11] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> auto updates run at 6am GMT
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> just as I wake up for work
[09:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:13] <noaXess> can someone of you, that have also firefox-3 installed check the following.. i have a problem if i click on a checkbox or radiobutton in a website, that the checkbox or the radiobutton won't be chekced correctly, see movie on http://www.wmx.ch/win-soft/download/firefox-3_radiobutton.avi
[09:14] <ubuntu> hello world
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: I wouldnt sweat it dude
[09:15] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ??
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: its just a display glitch really, report it to mozilla inc as a bug
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: its a small glitch with the display as far as I can see, no massive issue
[09:16] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: thats why i as her first.. i it is only a problem of my installation, then i won't  report it to mozilla
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: cant you go on the website and do it manually?
[09:17] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: then you have the same problem?
[09:17] <noaXess> '
[09:17] <noaXess> ?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: mines ok, except the skin doesnt fit my environment but i can wait
[09:18] <harmental> frogonwheels: reinstalling the kernel didnt solve the problem....whats weird is the there is no vmlinuz-2.6.24-19 in the boot folder....
[09:18] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: then you have enabled the standard theme?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> yes, Its all I can find
[09:19]  * flaccid uses the new Opera 9.50 which kills fx3
[09:19] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: i have also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7379
[09:19] <noaXess> the look and feel is much better then in standard theme
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: i'll give it a go
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: do you use it?
[09:20] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: jep
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: does you error happen in the normal theme?
[09:21] <noaXess> yes too ;)
[09:21] <flaccid> this is the best fx theme imo, which needs porting to fx3: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/72
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> they need to section out ff3 themes from the rest
[09:22] <flaccid> and make it as fast as opera :p
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> opera is tasty :)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> firefox needs speeddial
[09:23] <flaccid> hehe
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> makes life sooo much easier
[09:24] <flaccid> well 'Firefox has security,...' quote on firefox website and after fx3 was launched they found a major vuln lol
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: yeah I saw that too
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> nice how its picked up within a day
[09:26] <flaccid> also nice how you can gain control of someones computer
[09:26] <flaccid> one advantage of opera is that its Qt and the download manager works, where is it doesn't in firefox
[09:27] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: problem is : "In addition to Firefox 3.0, the security flaw also affects previous versions of Firefox 2.0x." which means its been there for a long time
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> oh dear
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> :(
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> flaccid:  sudo apt-get install opera (?)
[09:28] <flaccid> i already use opera, including for 14 mail accounts :)
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> is opera in the repos
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[09:29] <flaccid> yeah only 9.27 but i think
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:29] <flaccid> actually this vuln with fx3 looks more like hype
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> i'll get it on tonight, im not up for ff3 security hole
[09:30] <flaccid> the POC is unreleased
[09:30] <flaccid> this article has a couple of flaws really: http://www.crn.com/security/208700510
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: I thought it was official release?
[09:31] <connor> help installing ubuntu?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> connor: in what way?
[09:32] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: official release of what and from who sorry?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> connor: please be as specific as you can
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: FF3
[09:32] <connor> I have linux mint installed, but i want ubuntu installed also
[09:32] <connor> is a tri boot of xp, mint, and ubuntu possible?
[09:33] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: i dont' understand. the proof of concept for the vuln is not released
[09:33] <connor> And if so, do i resize my ext3 partition?
[09:33] <flaccid> !installation | connor
[09:33] <flaccid> yeah connor just use grub
[09:33] <connor> so uh, for mint AND ubuntu, what would i make for a good size
[09:33] <connor> 30 gigs for ubuntu?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> connor: you can have 400 OSes if you want, all will take space
[09:33] <connor> 20-25?
[09:34] <connor> but wait, if i already have mint installed, will i have to make ubuntu a bit bigger
[09:34] <connor> cuz linux is ext3
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> connor: depends on your needs, for a gaming ubuntu, you'll need more, for a simple web browser / chatting you need less
[09:34] <flaccid> you can also read the requirements in the doco above
[09:34] <connor> wouldnt mint and ubuntu both share the ext3 partition?
[09:34] <flaccid> !requirements
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> connor: there is no umbrella size for the partition size as needs define the space
[09:34] <connor> wouldnt mint and ubuntu both share the ext3 partition?
[09:35] <flaccid> connor: no. separate parts
[09:35] <connor> oh
[09:35] <connor> thanks
[09:35] <flaccid> thats what you should do
[09:36] <connor> An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. The resize operation has been aborted
[09:36] <flaccid> thats unfortunate
[09:36] <connor> what do i do?
[09:36] <connor> manual install?
[09:36] <flaccid> what said that?
[09:36] <connor> the partitioner
[09:37] <connor> gave me that error
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> connor: did you run the resizer as kdesudo ?
[09:37] <connor> i just ran the install icon that was on the desktop
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> ok
[09:37] <connor> how would i run it as kdesudo?
[09:37] <flaccid> connor: try kdesudo qtparted and do it from there
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> i gotta do some stuff dude, servers kicking off :(
[09:37] <connor> what?
[09:37] <flaccid> you might get the same response
[09:38] <connor> i just want to install
[09:38] <connor> could you help with a manual install?
[09:38] <flaccid> i just want world pearce :)
[09:38] <flaccid> peace even
[09:38] <flaccid> what is a manual install?
[09:38] <connor> could you help with a manual install real quick
[09:38] <connor> i did it on mint earlier for a friend
[09:38] <connor> but someone helped me
[09:38] <connor> =/
[09:38] <flaccid> this is not mint
[09:38] <connor> i know
[09:38] <flaccid> and how is it going to resize the partitions?
[09:39] <connor> i already have it sized on manual
[09:39] <flaccid> i gave you the command to do that manually in a GUI..
[09:39] <flaccid> sized on manual?
[09:39] <connor> im in normal ubuntu
[09:39] <flaccid> normal ubuntu?
[09:39] <connor> would it be sudo qtparted
[09:39] <flaccid> [18:37] <flaccid> connor: try kdesudo qtparted and do it from there
[09:40] <flaccid> you do not use sudo with gui applications
[09:41] <connor> sudo apt-get install qtparted did nothing
[09:41] <flaccid> !info qtparted
[09:41] <flaccid> you need to enable universe first
[09:41] <connor> how?
[09:41] <flaccid> !repos
[09:41] <curuxz> hey all! :)
[09:41] <flaccid> by using adept manager, connor
[09:42] <connor> whats the command, im a bit of a ubuntu noob
[09:42] <connor> to install universe
[09:42] <flaccid> you are a noob because you don't read doco
[09:43] <curuxz> got a bit of a problem with my kubuntu install (latest stable version) i tried creating a new user, normaly only have one since its my laptop, but when i login as them it goes through the normal new user wizard thing then when it gets to the desktop there is the root folders ON the desktop, and the home folder is empty ie no Desktop folder or anything, tried deleting and recreating users....stil can not get it to add a user account correctly, any
[09:43] <curuxz> ideas please?
[09:43] <frogonwheels> Settings/Software sources connor
[09:43] <flaccid> you don't install universe, you add the repos via adept manager
[09:43] <connor> what would i add to the list?
[09:44] <connor> what do i add to the repository list?
[09:44] <curuxz> btw im not putting them in any custom groups, or trying to give them permissions to do anything admin wise, just trying to make a normal user account, and its as if its making root accounts
[09:44] <flaccid> connor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:44] <connor> im in UBUNTU
[09:44] <flaccid> they use the same repos connor. don't shout
[09:44] <connor> whats the repos i need to add is what i asked
[09:44] <flaccid> universe
[09:45] <connor> i just put universe?
[09:45] <flaccid> nope
[09:45] <connor> k
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> connor: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[09:46] <curuxz> anyone got any ideas to help me please?
[09:46] <connor> all i need is the repository name seriously
[09:46] <flaccid> connor: read for once: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[09:47] <flaccid> connor: and because you wanna do it from command line: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#head-e1a24b1b2037f68b5a95f54388582b58ea4c9bd0
[09:47] <connor> that didn't help
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/add-a-user-on-ubuntu-server/
[09:47] <flaccid> connor: it tells you exactly the commands you want. you failed to read
[09:48] <connor> the one for universe
[09:48] <connor> i dont see it
[09:48] <curuxz> thanks parsnip, butting adding is not the problem, its the new accounts are screwed up before i have done anything to em
[09:48] <curuxz> i dont know if there is a bug or something in kde atm?
[09:48] <curuxz> (3.5 that is)
[09:48] <flaccid> [18:47] <flaccid> connor: and because you wanna do it from command line: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#head-e1a24b1b2037f68b5a95f54388582b58ea4c9bd0
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> connor: that is by far the simplest walkthrough Ive EVER seen, screenshots and everything
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: what happens if you log in as a newly created user?
[09:49] <flaccid> and the command line equivalent
[09:49] <flaccid> curuxz: i've seent that kind of behaviour before, i guess it could be a bug
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: that was painful
[09:50] <mefisto__> is there a way to get kpdf to scale a pdf down to actual page size when printing? I have a pdf that is way bigger than a normal page
[09:50] <curuxz> loging as a new user works fine, but their home folder is blank, and the desktop is full of the root directories, like var, etc, home,
[09:50] <curuxz> so its as if it reads the / folder as being the desktop folder
[09:50] <flaccid> curuxz: also in ubuntu adduser by default in shell won't add home folder or anything which is why the gui is recommended unless you know the switches for newuser to use or do post-setup of the home folder etc.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: when you run addusr are you setting the home directory?
[09:50] <frogonwheels> curuxz: what's the home diretory in the /etc/passwd ?
[09:50] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: what was sorry?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: connor was painful
[09:51] <flaccid> oh yeah lol
[09:51] <curuxz> yeah im setting the home folder as /home/USERNAME
[09:51] <flaccid> and so were the not so short URIs :)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: do you set it when its initially made? check the commands in the link
[09:51] <frogonwheels> curuxz: you mean editing /etc/passwd?
[09:51] <curuxz> but...it makes the folder fine, it just does not have the normal subfolders like Desktop
[09:51] <flaccid> curuxz: i would submit a bug
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> frogonwheels: the desktop has all the folders in / for new users
[09:52] <frogonwheels> yeah get that.
[09:52] <flaccid> curuxz: how are you setting the home folder, how are you doing this?
[09:52] <frogonwheels> obviously there's a bug with the wizard somewhere
[09:52] <frogonwheels> curuxz: tryy using adduser  ?
[09:52] <flaccid> adduser doesn't even create the home folder by default
[09:52] <curuxz> yeah tried add user, tried using kusers and tried through the sytem control center
[09:53] <curuxz> all resulted in the same way
[09:53] <flaccid> submit a bug
[09:53] <curuxz> kk :(
[09:53] <curuxz> thanks anyway guys
[09:53] <frogonwheels> curuxz:  when you do   cd ~username/   does it go tho the correct directory?
[09:53] <curuxz> yeah
[09:54] <flaccid> np. i've seen kuser and control center create new users fine with home folder and desktop but the showing / contents on desktop could be a bug or intentional if ~/Desktop doesn't exist. no real idea but
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: and how about cd ~/; clear; pwd
[09:54] <frogonwheels> ok. have nfi where to change the 'Desktop' folder - possibly you could troll the .kde/ files
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: does it say /home/username
[09:54] <curuxz> yeah
[09:54] <flaccid> wouldn't cd ~username/ do cd /home/usernameusername/
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: and from there whats the output of file ./Desktop
[09:55] <frogonwheels> flaccid: no - it's for a specified username...
[09:55] <frogonwheels> flaccid: ~/  is shortcut for the current user.
[09:55] <flaccid> i didn't know you could do that
[09:55] <flaccid> thats cool
[09:55] <curuxz> one sec ill get it
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> yeah flaccid, it makes life easier
[09:56] <flaccid> good for root shells
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> ive aliased cd ~/;clear; ls as 'home'
[09:57] <mefisto__> is there a way to get kpdf to scale a pdf down to actual page size when printing? I have a pdf that is way bigger than a normal page
[09:58] <curuxz> ok says no such folder when i put in ./Desktop
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> curuxz:  thats why then
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: mkdir ~/Desktop
[09:59] <curuxz> so why did the account not get generated correctly?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: no idea bro
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: just dont delte stuff off your desktop
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[10:01] <flaccid> wouldnt be perms to be able to
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: just making sure its not even attempted
[10:01] <flaccid> ah i assumed you already created the ~/Desktop folder
[10:01] <flaccid> hehe
[10:02] <curuxz> sorry just testing it
[10:02] <curuxz> :)
[10:02] <flaccid> curuxz: if after creating the desktop folder and then logging out and back in, you still get the / contents then please file a bug. the user i saw had ~/Desktop
[10:02] <curuxz> okies, im just logging into my new user (using a nx shell to do it while im still logged in)
[10:04] <curuxz> yep :( still got the root on the desktop
[10:04] <flaccid> interesting because the user i saw it with was using NX and i saw it through that. um that wasn't you was it?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: how can you find out where the desktop is mapped to for the user??
[10:04] <flaccid> mapped?
[10:04] <flaccid> i think desktop is always $HOME/Desktop afaik
[10:05] <curuxz> nope this is the first time i have mentioned this! :)
[10:05] <flaccid> np curuxz and have you viewed with display 0 and not NX ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: yeah, the folder containing the desktop items must be referenced in some way to say "use this folder to store desktop gumf: <folder>"
[10:05] <curuxz> not yet....worth a shot
[10:05] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: not sure what you mean
[10:05] <curuxz> ok ill brb i have to close all this to look dont i :)
[10:05] <flaccid> ok
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: the standard is ~/Desktop but im fairly sure its movable, so you could modify a file some place so the folder is elsewhere (and not a symlink)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> like a config file for the user stating where all its stuff is
[10:06] <flaccid> hmm i'd be curious to know if thats the case. i guess that would have to be in freedesktop standard somewhere..
[10:07] <Olgem> How do I get knode for KDE PIM? It seems to be existent in the repositories but I'm unable to download it through apt.
[10:07] <flaccid> mind you in kde4 its all configurable via FolderView
[10:08] <curuxz> ok back :)
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> good?
[10:08] <curuxz> the account was 100% fine in normal login
[10:08] <curuxz> must be an NX issue :(
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: well its narrowed it down
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:08] <curuxz> thanks :d
[10:08] <curuxz> still does not solve the issue for me tho since i wanted to use nx! it was so someone else could use my linux machine in my office
[10:08] <flaccid> lol that was coincidence..
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> whats NX anyhoo?
[10:09] <curuxz> yeah guess it explains why that other guy you met had the same problem! ;)
[10:09] <flaccid> well it doesn't affect the use of NX its just unaesthetic
[10:09] <curuxz> NX is like VNC, but much much faster and better
[10:09] <flaccid> yeah that dude didn't mind so much heh
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ah ok
[10:10] <curuxz> well unfortunately it does, since its giving them root access
[10:10] <rockyrock> hi guys
[10:10] <rockyrock> I want a help
[10:10] <curuxz> and i really really dont want them having that kinda view of the system
[10:10] <flaccid> curuxz: how so?
[10:10] <rockyrock> Does any USB external Dialup modem work on Ubuntu?
[10:10] <curuxz> well it allows them to enter my home folder without passwords
[10:10] <flaccid> thats normal
[10:10] <curuxz> so, not that i think they would, they can stomp around the whole system
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> curuxz: is NX secure (VNC is not)
[10:11] <curuxz> they can get on the windows drive, which is set only to be allowed by my user
[10:11] <flaccid> curuxz: its normal to be able to do that
[10:11] <rockyrock> hello!!! anybody?
[10:11] <curuxz> oh i know NX is secure :D, but that still means the person who i only want to allow to use my computer not my files has full access
[10:11] <flaccid> you have to chmod 770 as its 775 by default...
[10:11] <curuxz> when i have run it in the past they have been separated (tho admitadly that was freeNX not nxserver)
[10:11] <flaccid> curuxz: and i doubt that NX has changed perms or given root at all to users. you can also hide the desktop icons for the aesthetics
[10:12] <flaccid> curuxz: like i said just change the perms on the /home/user folders...
[10:12] <curuxz> wont a chmod 770 /home/myname -R screw things up?
[10:12] <curuxz> like with all the session files
[10:12] <flaccid> you don't need to do -R ..
[10:12] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: any ideas as how to get flash to work cuz i ened a flash plugin to get into this game chat room and it wont work and i have it installed
[10:12] <curuxz> oh just the master
[10:13] <flaccid> curuxz: and it wouldn't anyway
[10:13] <curuxz> hmm ok ill give it a shot thanks :)
[10:13] <flaccid> np
[10:14] <curuxz> ah perfect! :D that will keep em out :d
[10:14] <curuxz> i like to keep my machine secure
[10:14] <curuxz> thanks for the help guys! :D....still duno why nx has this new bug oh well
[10:15] <flaccid> hehe np
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: I used this bro: http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000258.cfm
[10:16] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i have flash installed and it keepss wanting to download a bin file
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: id uninstall what you got
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i just followed that and it was the shizzle
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:17] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ok lol
[10:19] <flaccid> thats interesting ActionParsnip
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: sup?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> god dsview is slloooooow
[10:20] <flaccid> oh just the flash article. i did some recent research and the success rate and miriad of problems with flash is amazing
[10:20] <flaccid> dsview?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: its a remote viewer for IBM servers, like drac for dell but crap
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: i think ffox should come with flash already bundled
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: makes it easier for all
[10:22] <flaccid> well the problems are actually more to do with flash itself and there is the 64bit debarcle...
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> indeed
[10:22] <flaccid> java is worse atm with firefox
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> oh absolutely
[10:22] <flaccid> oh it just frustrates me to no end sir
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: hows java with opera under Linux?
[10:22] <flaccid> perfect
[10:22] <flaccid> lol
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: more than compiz ;)
[10:22] <flaccid> in this case the loser appears to be firefox and not sun..
[10:23] <frybye> hi - anybody know how to get thunderbird to direct html- links in email correctly to the firfox??
[10:23] <flaccid> java is good in opera, but flash is unreliable and bad performance and then overflows to eat up all your cpu..
[10:24] <flaccid> frybye: maybe try other channels that are related like #mozilla and #ubuntu
[10:25] <acemoo> flaccid: flash is being pretty reliable and good performance here with opera 9.5
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> frybye: set your browser up in thunderbird
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: flash is a major plugin for me due to hammering youtube when im bored
[10:26] <frybye> action - easily said...?
[10:26] <flaccid> acemoo: which opera and flash versions? i mean it loads reliably but then you compare the performance, however this may be my fglrx driver possibly
[10:26] <flaccid> yep same
[10:28] <acemoo> flaccid: opera 9.5, not sure bout the flash version cant check atm not at home, before i had like when u open flahs in multiple tabs it crashes and was just slower as on firefox, but now with opera 9.5 it seems to be working pretty good
[10:29] <flaccid> i've been using 9.5 since it was in snapshot and have always had these problems
[10:29] <frybye> ActionParsnip: I am asking in #firefox - perhaps somebody there has an answer...
[10:29] <dbglt> opera (on linux) doesn't play too nicely with flash
[10:29] <flaccid> yep and the more tabs with flash the more it overflows until you have to kill it!
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> frybye: its a config for thunderbird dude, let me websearch
[10:30] <flaccid> somebody opening lots of redtube tabs
[10:30] <dbglt> redtube?
[10:30] <frybye> need to change a config file you mean?  In the menus I find nothing...?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> frybye: http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/28/forcing-thunderbird-to-open-links-in-firefox.html
[10:31] <frybye> thanks action - you are a star.. heheh
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> frybye: your google skills suck
[10:31] <flaccid> dbglt: its a site that does videos in flash as well
[10:31] <dbglt> flaccid: ah
[10:31] <dbglt> opera is best when you confine it to one instance of flash
[10:31] <dbglt> I think it's the way the new flash player works... the old one used to be fine with opera :D
[10:32] <flaccid> it was decent at one point yes i agree
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> its weird how 64bit plugind havent been developed despite 64bit architecture being so widespread now
[10:34] <flaccid> yeah i think that if the hardware is available and in the mainstream market the users shouldn't have to then find out the support is half-baked
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> well how long has 64bitness being available to the average joe
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> like 8 years or so now
[10:36] <flaccid> yep it was hype and still continues to just be hype jumping up here and there
[10:36] <flaccid> because its not just flash thats the issue
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> true
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> but you can see my point
[10:37] <flaccid> damn straight
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> plus Ubuntu is supposed to "just work" haha
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> should be "just works..if you use i386"
[10:43] <engineer> 64bit ftw
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> well yeah but browser plugins are a beeatch
[10:43] <engineer> reckon so
[10:43] <engineer> not ubuntu's fault though
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> indeed
[10:44] <engineer> anyways
[10:44] <engineer> if firefox had a windows 64bit official build
[10:44] <engineer> it would put pressure on adobe to make a flash 64bit build
[10:45] <noaXess> my printer status trayicon still there, after succsesfully printing.. i need to manualy refresh the job queue, then the tray icon will be closed
[10:49] <voicu> hi, I'm using Kubuntu 8.04 and it works fine but when I log out I get a blank screen and the keyboard doesn't work. I tried CTRL+ALT+F1 and stuff but nothing. The power button on the case works though and the computer shuts down  cleanly when i press it
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: just websearching
[10:50] <flaccid> voicu: driver?
[10:50] <engineer> voicu check your graphics driver in you xorg.conf
[10:51] <flaccid> there are a lot of bugs exactly like this atm. i suffer from it nearly every day still :(
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=382746
[10:51] <voicu> flaccid: fglrx on a radeon 9600SE. The acceleration works fine, I even played wow and others
[10:51] <flaccid> im on the same thing
[10:51] <flaccid> you can find the bugs on launchpad
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: looks like a bug
[10:53] <voicu> flaccid: is there some kind of override that kde does when the computers starts? Something that doesn't happen when logging out?
[10:53] <flaccid> voicu: the latter is one of the bugs and is partially fixed at least in proposed
[10:53] <zarlino> hi all
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !hi | za
[10:54] <zarlino> i cannot authenticate anymore in kdm
[10:54] <flaccid> voicu: what is your dpkg -l | grep xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[10:54] <zarlino> i can login only by using the "autologin" feature of kdm
[10:54] <zarlino> when i type user and pw kdm or X crashes
[10:55] <voicu> flaccid: iU  xorg-driver-fglrx                          1:7.1.0-8-3+2.6.24.13-19.42
[10:55] <voicu> I know it is installed because 3D acceleration works
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> zarlino: no idea man, crazy sounding
[10:55] <zarlino> ActionParsnip: yes indeed
[10:57] <flaccid> voicu: thats the one im using. i can logout and it doesn't crash like that, but it crashes like that for others. i mean what can we do, not much. there is still at least 1 bug report open on these bugs in launchpad
[10:58] <voicu> flaccid: is it a problem that the xorg.conf file doesn't have any resolutions listed? just default screen, default monitor, fglrx driver and glx module
[10:58] <flaccid> nothing to do with xorg config
[10:58] <flaccid> although its possible they may find directives for a quickfix
[10:59] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: thanks.. sorry was bussy..
[10:59] <voicu> resolution are in the Screen section right?
[10:59] <voicu> *resolutions
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: np man
[11:00] <massi> hi all
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !hi | massi
[11:01] <voicu> Does anyone know what component handles the man pages in konqueror? I need to file a bug report
[11:01] <flaccid> voicu: you can trust me when i say, we aint going to be able to find the problem. the problem is possibly in the driver blob itself which is why the devs are having a hard time fixing it entirely..
[11:02] <voicu> flaccid: OK, thanks. At least it's not my fault :D
[11:02] <flaccid> voicu: yeah i mean because im a tester, i crash many times a day with this bug(s)
[11:02] <flaccid> very bad and it was worse..
[11:07] <voicu> Well thanks for the help, bye
[11:12] <_Fighterpenner_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/4458742/
[11:13] <t> _Fighterpenner_: please don't spam pennergame links on freenode :)
[11:13] <lakis1982> how can i set my computer going into sleep mode after 20 minutes ???
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: right click desktop -> configure desktop
[11:14] <lakis1982> and then ?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: its in there regarding screen savers and power modes
[11:15] <lakis1982> i right click desktop and go configure desktop ..then to screensaver and i cant see anything about power settings
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: try the tabs at the top
[11:16] <lakis1982> the tabs into screensaver
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: have a flick around
[11:16] <lakis1982> it doesnt have any tabs on screensaver section
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> let me websearch
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> maybe its not worded screensaver
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:17] <lakis1982> .
[11:17] <massi_> lakis1982: maybey u need to install kpowermanager
[11:17] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu 8.04 kde 3.5.9
[11:17] <lakis1982> kpowermanager ssssucks
[11:17] <massi_> it works for mw :p
[11:17] <lakis1982> i tried it and doesnt work corrrecctly and u must have it all the time on , in the system tray
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-341617.html
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: looks like an xorg.conf edit
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> backup the original first
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: did you try websearching before asking?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> if you look at the time stamps that took approc 120 seconds to find
[11:20] <lakis1982> i tried but i cant find anything
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> what did you search for?
[11:20] <lakis1982> \the olink u gave me says abot screen going off automatically but i want the whole system going into sleep mode
[11:20] <lakis1982> about kubuntu auto sleep
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> its not the system sleeping
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> try kubuntu stop monitor standby
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> your system is standbying your monitor, the system is still running at full power
[11:22] <lakis1982> but i dont want the system running
[11:22] <lakis1982> i want it going into sleep mode
[11:22] <lakis1982> so it is like is turned off
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> i thought you just wanted your monitor to stop sleeping
[11:22] <lakis1982> no
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ok
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[11:23] <lakis1982> i cant find anything two days now
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: http://spidertools.com/ub_power.php
[11:23] <lakis1982> let me see it
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> try using suspend instead of sleep
[11:24] <lakis1982> i have seen this site
[11:24] <lakis1982> but how do i start an application
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: from konsole / yakuake. or right click and click run app
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> then type what you want to run
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !hibernate
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !sleep
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !standby
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> bah
[11:26] <lakis1982> i type / yakuake ?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: no, yakuake is a konsole replacement
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: you need to type whatever the powermanagement thing is called
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> or try system settings
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> maybe theres some power options there
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> im at work on my xp lappy so cant really find out
[11:27] <lakis1982> ther arent . i searched everywhere
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: is it not in screensaver any place
[11:30] <lakis1982> the link u gave e says about ubuntu and gnome enviroments
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/17283/sleep-mode.html
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> have you got kpowersave installed?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29295
[11:31] <lakis1982> no
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: or pm-utils
[11:32] <lakis1982> i have tried it yesterday
[11:32] <lakis1982> pm-utils i havent tried
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> the kde-apps link looks promising. Id try pm-utils first
[11:32] <lakis1982> pm-utils i will install them now  and see
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: its just some stuff ive happened upon so i have no idea how good they are
[11:34] <lakis1982> pm-tooles appears to be installed like adept manager says
[11:34] <lakis1982> but how do i run pm-utils
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> guess
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> its more obvious than you think
[11:34] <lakis1982> what u mean ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> the program is called pm-utils
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> so type
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> pm-utils & in a konsole
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> or even easier, type pm then press tab
[11:35] <lakis1982> i type pm-utils and it says command not found
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: try tab auto complete
[11:37] <lakis1982> pmap               pmi                pm-powersave       pm-suspend-hybrid
[11:37] <lakis1982> pm-hibernate       pm-is-supported    pm-suspend
[11:37] <lakis1982> lakis1982@lakis-desktop:~$ pm-powersave
[11:37] <lakis1982> Argument needs to be true or false
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: in your bios is the option for acpi suspend enabled
[11:41] <Edante> hey all
[11:41] <Edante> wasup? :)
[11:42] <lakis1982> i think yes
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: go check
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Edante: nm bro, you ok?
[11:42] <lakis1982> hold on
[11:42] <Edante> yeah fine :)
[11:44] <Edante> so quiet here :)
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> its nice, check #ubuntu if you want banter ;)
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> usually along the lines of "how do I get the cube??"
[11:48] <lakis1982> the acpi suspend is enabled
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: cool
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: i have no idea then man
[11:55] <lumm> ich schnalls echt nit gestern meine syszeit über ntp updated
[11:55] <lumm> heut geht se schonwieder 5-6 min vor
[11:55] <lumm> nach 24h sinds dann teilweise schon 20minuten
[11:55] <lumm> woran kann das liegen?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !de | lumm
[11:56] <lumm> oh
[11:56] <lumm> sorry
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> np man
[11:56] <lumm> bad channel just #ku... in my channelist
[11:56] <lumm> ;D
[11:56] <flaccid> acpi support on linux desktop is woeful :)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> just leave yer system on
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> 50W PSU ftw :D
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> low end, low form factor pc
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> :D
[12:27] <sad> #españa
[12:27] <sad> lol
[12:45] <sad> #irc-hispano
[12:52] <ndf> anyone here use k3b? #k3b is pretty much empty atm
[12:52] <ndf> just need to know why i have to convert mp3s to wav to burn them?
[12:53] <ndf> do i need LAME or something?
[12:53] <makdaknife> ndf: I use k3b
[12:53] <makdaknife> ndf: it depends on what sort of cd you're burning
[12:53] <ndf> makdaknife: do i need LAME to put mp3s directly into an audio disc burn list?
[12:54] <makdaknife> if you burn a data cd then you can leave them as mp3
[12:54] <ndf> an audio disc
[12:54] <makdaknife> yup... you'll need lame then
[12:54] <ndf> ok
[12:54] <Jabop> That's weird, I'm burning a cd as we speak
[12:54] <Jabop> mp3 audio cd.
[12:54] <ndf> =/
[12:55] <ndf> maybe you allready have LAME?
[12:55] <makdaknife> ndf: once you have lame installed, k3b will convert on the fly
[12:55] <Jabop> Of course I have lame
[12:55] <ndf> there you go then :P
[12:55] <Jabop> Who doesn't have lame? :P
[12:55] <ndf> k thx makdaknife
[12:55] <ndf> makdaknife: is LAME in synaptic?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> !info lame
[12:55] <makdaknife> up... try install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:56] <ndf> found lame
[12:56] <ndf> will i need lame-extras too?
[12:57] <makdaknife> ndf: I'm not sure... you will also need transcode
[12:57] <Jabop> makdaknife: why will he need that?
[12:57] <Jabop> I have lame libs and lame installed, and k3b is burning mp3s as audio cd for me
[12:58] <makdaknife> ndf: just install the restricted-extras package... it will probably deal with the majority of problems you'll run into
[12:59] <ndf> makdaknife: i'm not actually on kubuntu
[12:59] <makdaknife> Jabop: If you look in the K3B configuration... you wil see that under programs it searches for transcode, and then uses lame etc through that
[12:59] <ndf> i just came here because i needed help with k3b
[12:59] <makdaknife> ndf: ha ha... fair enough
[12:59] <ndf> :P
[12:59] <makdaknife> ndf: you could prolly also get this sort of help on ##linux
[12:59] <makdaknife> ndf: what distro are you using?
[12:59] <ndf> ubuntu hardy 8.04
[13:00] <ndf> i asked in #ubuntu-uk
[13:00] <makdaknife> ndf: then you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:01] <ndf> lame and transcode dont appear to be in that package, is that because i've allready selected them elsewhere to install (i haven't applied the install yet)
[13:01] <ndf> ?
[13:02] <ndf> i seem to have most things from that package anyway now
[13:02] <ndf> lol
[13:03] <makdaknife> ndf: ha... I might be wrong about what is in that package... but there is a load of help for you here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[13:03] <makdaknife> there is a section on burning/ripping CDs etc
[13:03] <ndf> lame is in the package
[13:03] <ndf> transcode is not
[13:04] <flaccid> im a bit confused. is there a problem still ndf?
[13:06] <ndf> no i'm just saying transcode isn't in that package
[13:07] <flaccid> should it be?
[13:08] <makdaknife> ndf: thanks for clarifying... transcode should be available though
[13:08] <makdaknife> flaccid: I was probably misleading in my solution to the original problem... I suggested installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:09] <flaccid> ah ok my bad
[13:09] <ndf> it's ok i am installing both restricted-extras and transcode
[13:09] <makdaknife> :-)
[13:09] <ndf> thanks for the help =)
[13:10] <ndf> now it is time to make a cigarette
[13:10] <makdaknife> ndf: no problem... smoking will kill ya... apparently
[13:10] <flaccid> hey um remind me, what uses transcode what is it used with in practice?
[13:10] <ndf> apparently
[13:10] <ndf> flaccid: on-the-fly conversion of audio files
[13:10] <ndf> i.e: k3b
[13:10] <eagles0513875> !dj
[13:11] <eagles0513875> any one know any dejaying software thats in the repos
[13:11] <flaccid> ndf: is the the package it asks for/wants for burning audio cds from mp3s?
[13:11] <ndf> eagles0513875: i'm also interested in your solution
[13:12] <flaccid> !info mixxx
[13:12] <eagles0513875> ty flaccid
[13:12] <ndf> flaccid: it didn't actually ask for a specific package, it jsut told me to manually convert my mp3s to wave before trying
[13:12] <ndf> then these guys told me i needed lame and transcode
[13:12] <flaccid> ndf: ok, i might just test this out of interest because its not on this box yet
[13:12] <eagles0513875> ndf:  i use soundkonverter to convert my audio
[13:12] <makdaknife> flaccid: transcode is used to convert media files between formats... video and audio
[13:12] <eagles0513875> !soundkonverter | ndf
[13:12] <Malic> ist der aktuelle firefox schon in den quellen oder is das noch ne beta?
[13:13] <eagles0513875> !info soundkonverter | ndf
[13:13] <eagles0513875> !de | Malic
[13:13] <ndf> eagles0513875: nah i meant i was also interested in a dj package
[13:13] <flaccid> yeah guys im aware what transcode does, but im seeing what uses it
[13:13] <eagles0513875> !mixxx | ndf
[13:13] <ndf> flaccid: k3b apparently
[13:13] <eagles0513875> ndf: u were saying something about transcoding and what not
[13:14] <eagles0513875> what is up with the bot
[13:14] <ndf> eagles0513875: yeah sorry micing up 2 conversations lol
[13:14] <eagles0513875> ndf: in that case use soundkonverter for that
[13:14] <ndf> !info mixxx
[13:14] <eagles0513875> ndf: you would need lame flac and anything else you want to code in
[13:14] <ndf> *mixing
[13:14] <ndf> eagles0513875: yes i know, it's allready been solved, i need transcode and lame
[13:14] <ndf> it's downloading
[13:15] <ndf> no worries
[13:15] <eagles0513875> kool
[13:15] <makdaknife> eagles0513875: soundkonverter is great for converting files... but ndf wants to be able to burn audio cds on the fly from mp3 files
[13:15] <eagles0513875> ndf: downloading mixxx as we speak
[13:15] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhhh got it wouldnt k3b do that
[13:15] <ndf> no k3b needs transcode to do it
[13:15] <flaccid> ok i got that message, now i will add transcode
[13:15] <ndf> which is why i'm downloading it instead of 'soundkonverter'
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Its all about front ends calling other commands. :)
[13:16] <ndf> yea
[13:20] <flaccid> i just want to know for sure for future reference. i rarely burn on this notebook because the optical drive is dead
[13:21] <flaccid> ok transcode installed, same message in k3b, i shall now restart k3b
[13:22] <flaccid> it certainly aint that pkg which is what i suspected
[13:23] <flaccid> its actually this guys for mp3 -> audio cd : https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+question/6146
[13:23] <flaccid> !info libk3b2-extracodecs
[13:24] <eagles0513875> ndf:  you trying out mixxx
[13:25] <flaccid> so essentially its libmad0 !
[13:27] <flaccid> kmixxx is not as great as traktor dj studio but it works
[13:28] <ndf> eagles0513875: nah not yet
[13:28] <ndf> flaccid: so i dont need transcode?
[13:28] <flaccid> oops i mean mixxx lol
[13:28] <flaccid> no its as per what i wrote above. i knew it wasn't right when i heard it..
[13:28] <bomber> i installed kubuntu a coup;e days ago and i just installed a radeon card in this box too
[13:29] <bomber> My sound icon on the task bar dissappeared and i only get sound from amarok not from other programs
[13:29] <ndf> so i need libk3b2-extracodecs ?
[13:29] <eagles0513875> ndf: im having some isues getting mixxx to recognize my audio device im wondeirng if it has to do with me leaving amarok open
[13:29] <flaccid> bomber: run kmix and you will get it back
[13:29] <flaccid> ndf: correct.
[13:29] <ndf> k
[13:29] <ndf> eagles0513875: i don't know sorry
[13:29] <bomber> ok thanks
[13:30] <eagles0513875> its ok
[13:30] <eagles0513875> im asking in their channel
[13:30] <flaccid> amarok is a hog and they both programs need to support alsa duplex
[13:30] <bomber> flaccid,  how can i make this change stay? after shutting down
[13:30] <eagles0513875> flaccid: gotcha
[13:30] <eagles0513875> ill try shutting down amarok
[13:30] <flaccid> bomber: use sessions or put it in autostart
[13:30] <ndf> bomber: add kmix to startup
[13:30] <massi_> some1 know how to get the ip adreess of an access point?
[13:31] <bomber> ahhhh ok thank guys
[13:31] <eagles0513875> flaccid: even without amarok open same issue
[13:31] <flaccid> massi_: it may not have one
[13:31] <flaccid> eagles0513875: pretty normal. you could run it from konsole and see what the prob is
[13:32] <massi_> flaccid: i'm connected via cable but the wireless is separated from router
[13:32] <eagles0513875> goign to do that now
[13:32] <flaccid> massi_: yeah we don't really help with network scanning in this channel..
[13:32] <flaccid> its kubuntu support
[13:32] <eagles0513875> flaccid: its not even listing my audio device now
[13:32] <massi_> there is an other channel about that?
[13:32] <eagles0513875> flaccid: before with amarok it was being listed at least
[13:33] <flaccid> eagles0513875: sound problems are fun arent they :)
[13:33] <flaccid> massi_: ##networking
[13:33] <eagles0513875> flaccid: nightmare lol i dont have any issues with amarok
[13:33] <jhutchins> massi_: Ap's usually set themselves up at .1 or .254
[13:33]  * eagles0513875 knocks on wood
[13:33] <jhutchins> massi_: Find the owner's manual online if you don't have one.
[13:33] <massi_> i've already tryied 192.168.1.254 but it does not respond
[13:33] <massi_> thx flaccid
[13:34] <flaccid> pretty much. there is many sounds systems , servers etc. and all programs like to use them differently except for example K apps
[13:34] <jhutchins> massi_: could be .0.254
[13:34] <jhutchins> massi_: Could be some other subnet.  rtfm.
[13:34] <flaccid> could also be anything if someone has changed it or even turned it off :p
[13:35]  * eagles0513875 hates when something is quite obvious
[13:35] <jhutchins> something I've used does 192.168.2.*
[13:35] <massi_> jhutchins: 0.254 is my roter
[13:35] <eagles0513875> massi_: do you have a machine currently using the wireless
[13:36] <massi_> i've kubuntu and I'have wireless but I'm not able to use it. I just use lan
[13:36] <eagles0513875> massi_: if u have another machine connected to what ever you are having issues with if it connected to the wireless router by wire use that to take a look at the ip of the router aka default gateway
[13:36] <eagles0513875> massi_: are u on lan through the router that generates the wireless for ya
[13:36] <jhutchins> Seriously, the easiest way is to find a manual for it and look it up.
[13:37] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: that as well or he can check what his current default gateway is if he is wired to it in regards to the ip
[13:37] <massi_> eagles0513875: yes, but wlan settings are separate from router and unfortunatelly i' ve gon no manuals
[13:37] <eagles0513875> massi_: if u can log into the webinterface they will be there
[13:37] <Kijutsu> Just bought a Dell XPS1530 and I'm wanting to dual boot Vista and Kubuntu.  Kubuntu seems to be having issues with resizing the Windows partition, as it bombs out with "Cannot resize partition.. aborting".  Not sure why, anybody have any clue?
[13:38] <eagles0513875> as well as for the wired settings
[13:38] <massi_> eagles0513875: I can take a loook at router's log
[13:39] <eagles0513875> massi_: O_o doesnt that involve logging into the webinterface of the router to do that
[13:39] <bak1an> hi all
[13:41] <eagles0513875> ummmmmmmmm we got a problem the bot has left the channel
[13:41] <massi_> eagles0513875: in log'system there is no mention about access point shh..
[13:41] <flaccid> massi_: i won't show you how to scan, but its possible the ip is in your arp cache if connected to the ap. ie. arp -a
[13:41] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:41] <eagles0513875> flaccid: u gave it away lol at least how to display all ips in the arp cache
[13:42] <massi_> flaccid:  what's about arp cache?
[13:42] <flaccid> Kijutsu: try installing qtparted after enabling universe repos from the livecd and running it under kdesudo or even easier just re-size it in Vista!
[13:42] <Kijutsu> How the crap do you resize a partition in use?
[13:42] <flaccid> massi_: huh
[13:42] <eagles0513875> !language | Kijutsu
[13:42] <flaccid> Kijutsu: you cannot , it must be unmounted
[13:43] <eagles0513875> massi_: he was saying if u check your arp cache the ip of the ap might be in there
[13:43] <Pici> Kijutsu: You cant do any operations on partitions in use
[13:43] <Kijutsu> Exactly my point.
[13:43] <ds187__> eagles0513875: no bot, no advice :-(
[13:43] <eagles0513875> forgot bout that lol
[13:43] <massi_> ok thx anyway guys
[13:43] <eagles0513875> ubottu really grows on ya lol
[13:44] <massi_> i'll reset anything
[13:44] <flaccid> Kijutsu: well it won't be mounted if you just booted from the livecd ?
[13:44] <Kijutsu> Thats the thing.. the installer bombs out with "cannot resize partition"
[13:44] <lenea> can anyone please tell me how to see the windows drives in /media?
[13:45] <eagles0513875> Kijutsu: i read somewhere u ahve to install kubuntu first then vista
[13:45] <Kijutsu> Oy.. I so don't want to nuke the entire drive..
[13:45] <eagles0513875> ended up having to do that for a friend of mine cuz i did it vista first then kubuntu and he ran into problems on vista
[13:45] <Kijutsu> I gotta see if Dell provided Vista media first...
[13:46] <lenea> can anyone please tell me how to see the windows drives in /media?
[13:46] <flaccid> Kijutsu: yes common. try qtparted as advised. many people have had success this way..
[13:46] <flaccid> lenea: disks and filesystems in system settings
[13:46] <eagles0513875> flaccid: he should be weary and back up his data just in case it doesnt work
[13:46] <Kijutsu> What's it do? drop it on a ramdisk until reboot?
[13:46] <Kijutsu> eagles0513875, brand new laptop.. no data on it really. :P
[13:46] <flaccid> eagles0513875: now linux last or windows will overwrite grub mbr
[13:46] <eagles0513875> Kijutsu: just being careful dude
[13:47] <Kijutsu> I appreciate it tho.
[13:47] <eagles0513875> flaccid: that isnt right though at least not right with vista
[13:47] <flaccid> backup is always assumed :)
[13:47] <flaccid> it is right
[13:47] <Kijutsu> What does vista do, lock down the drive?
[13:47] <eagles0513875> i did it vista first kubuntu 2nd and after bout a day my friend was having issues and we reinstalled it the other way
[13:47] <flaccid> an OS can't boot without a bootloader
[13:47]  * dwidmann runs around in squares
[13:47] <eagles0513875> O_o
[13:47] <flaccid> Kijutsu: i don't know what vista does because its closed source
[13:47] <dwidmann> without ubottu present ... I'm powerless
[13:48] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: go get him
[13:48] <Kijutsu> Blah... okay.. time to go experiment then.
[13:48] <Kijutsu> thanks all.
[13:48] <eagles0513875> Kijutsu: wait
[13:48] <flaccid> lol
[13:48] <flaccid> hopefully he just resizes in qtparted or vista
[13:48] <eagles0513875> damn it i have a feeling his dell has a recovery partition he needs to make the vista recovery discs with
[13:49] <lenea> flaccid : it says the disks cannot be mounted. should i try and mount them by force?
[13:49] <flaccid> hangon im confused, he has to resize but nothing is installed wtf?
[13:49] <flaccid> lenea: is it in admin mode or did you run under kdesudo?
[13:49] <lenea> flaccid : admin mode
[13:49] <flaccid> is it asking you to force?
[13:49] <lenea> flaccid : it tells me i can force it on my own risk :)
[13:50] <flaccid> what type is the filesystem?
[13:50] <lenea> no idea :|
[13:50] <flaccid> well it might need disk checking but you can force mount on your own risk
[13:51] <lenea> flaccid : nvm, i disabled writing access and now i can mount it
[13:52] <eagles0513875> lenea: to check what types of file systems ur partitioins have run an fdisk -l
[13:52] <eagles0513875> lenea: lists all partitions and filesystems
[13:52] <flaccid> ok coolio
[13:53] <lenea> they are NTFS
[13:53] <flaccid> yep thats why..
[13:54] <flaccid> and yeah it will say the type in system settings as well which gets the same kind of data fdisk -l gets
[13:54] <lenea> doesn't matter anymore. i mounted them so it's ok :)
[13:54] <lenea> thanks for the help
[13:54] <flaccid> yeah just an fyi for eagles
[13:54] <flaccid> np
[14:04] <oli94> un french?
[14:05] <Kijutsu> eagles0513875, what'd you say wait for?
[14:05] <flaccid> Kijutsu: why you resizing when this notebook is 'blank' ?
[14:05] <oli94> help me
[14:05] <eagles0513875> Kijutsu: lol there is probably a partition that has the recovery media that you have to burn to cd/dvd yourself on the hard drive
[14:05] <eagles0513875> !ask | oli94
[14:05] <oli94> nobody for me
[14:06] <flaccid> quick call a medic
[14:06] <Kijutsu> flaccid, because i don't feel like completely reinstalling vista.
[14:06] <eagles0513875> oli94:  patience
[14:06] <Kijutsu> eagles0513875, no.. i looked.. there's a vista media in the junk dell sent with the laptop
[14:06] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[14:06] <eagles0513875> hp puts it on the hard drive
[14:06] <eagles0513875> but thank god i dont need it no more
[14:06] <Kijutsu> yeah i hate that
[14:06] <Kijutsu> I freakin' hate when they put it on the drive.
[14:06] <Kijutsu> Guess what happens when the hard drive dies? OH!  no more recovery... awwww..
[14:07] <eagles0513875> bought vista ultimate 64bit cuz hp borked it beyond belief had to reinstlal every other week
[14:07] <oli94> do you speak french eagle?
[14:07] <eagles0513875> Kijutsu: that happened to someone that brought it in at work not to long ago
[14:07] <flaccid> Kijutsu: i thought vista wasn't on there yet
[14:07] <eagles0513875> oli94: no i dont do u want the french channel
[14:07] <Kijutsu> eagles0513875, you could have... well... obtained a copy of OEM vista and used your exisitng key :)
[14:07] <rav> hello. Last night, my laptop locked up on a strange way. I transfered a file to my cellphone through bluetooth successfully, like I always do. Then I accidentally deleted the pairing in my cellphone, so I re-paired the devices. The pairing went through, and when the 'Connected' message popped up, the system locked up entirely. I couldn't switch to terminals, or restart the X server. The caps lock light was flashing like once per second. I had to shutdown the
[14:07] <rav> laptop with the power button. I think it was because the laptop still had the phone as paired and I re-paired the devices.
[14:07] <eagles0513875> Kijutsu: thats what we did
[14:07] <Kijutsu> You missed the keyword... obtained... *cough*
[14:07] <oli94> yes i want french channel
[14:08] <eagles0513875> oli94: #kubuntu-fr
[14:08] <Kijutsu> I don't know how many laptops i've saved over the years because the owner didn't have the know how to backup before the computer went kaput and I had a .. .copy.. of OEM XP home/pro around and just used their key on the bottom of the system.
[14:09] <bbinotto> hi, with konsole, is there a way to configure the following: if i'm on IP xy, make background red?
[14:11] <flaccid> Kijutsu: so what are you wanting to resize, have you done it yet?
[14:11] <Kijutsu> the vista partition
[14:11] <Kijutsu> but i gotta get wireless networking to pay attentino
[14:11] <flaccid> so it is on there...
[14:12] <Kijutsu> flaccid, I'm using it as we speak.
[14:12] <flaccid> just go into vista and resize in computer management is easiest
[14:12] <flaccid> otherwise like i said qtparted from livecd..
[14:13] <Kijutsu> hmm.
[14:13] <Kijutsu> interesting.
[14:13] <Kijutsu> resizing a partition.. IN USE
[14:13] <flaccid> yes correct
[14:14] <Kijutsu> what will microshaft think of next
[14:14] <flaccid> notice how its fat / ntfs it won't do anything else and there is reason for this etc..
[14:14] <Kijutsu> okay.. the fact it just did that and it didn't let out the magic blue smoke amazes me.
[14:14] <Kijutsu> flaccid, i'm new to vista.. i'm still back in oldschool XP knowledge.
[14:17] <flaccid> gotta love user assumptions
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:21] <flaccid> good evening blues rocker
[14:21] <flaccid> who reminds me of kyus
[14:21] <BluesKaj> hey flaccid
[14:21] <flaccid> howdy
[14:21] <BluesKaj> reminds you of who ?
[14:22] <flaccid> the band kyus
[14:22] <BluesKaj> sorry, dunno them
[14:22] <flaccid> check em out you probably like em
[14:22] <BluesKaj> I'm old , that's prolly why :)
[14:23] <flaccid> they are like pretty low end kind of rock/blues
[14:23] <flaccid> well these guys are not traditional :)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> they from oz ?
[14:25] <flaccid> um don't think so
[14:25] <BluesKaj> perhaps we should take this conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <flaccid> ok
[14:26] <Jucato> great idea :)
[14:26]  * flaccid was waiting for Jucy to do that
[14:26] <Jucato> nah. that was a sarcastic remark from me :)
[14:27] <flaccid> hehe
[14:30] <duh> How do you add a iso image to your sources.list?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> you don't unless you're talking about a cd as a source
[14:31] <duh> That was the ideo
[14:31] <duh> idea
[14:31] <Ash-Fox> mount the iso
[14:32] <Ash-Fox> Then add the cd mount like you would a CD
[14:32] <Ash-Fox> err iso mount
[14:32] <flaccid> !iso
[14:32] <flaccid> oh no bot still
[14:33] <duh> Thanks
[14:33] <Ash-Fox> sudo mkdir /mnt/blah && sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/blah
[14:34] <drmarwat> hello
[14:35] <drmarwat> how do i configure compiz after installation of nvidia drivers?
[14:35] <Ash-Fox> You will probably want to use the file:/ method for accessing the contents though in sources.list
[14:35] <drmarwat> both compiz and nvidia drivers are installed but compiz doesnt work for me
[14:36] <Ash-Fox> drmarwat, did you run compiz?
[14:36] <drmarwat> Ash-Fox: yes i did
[14:36] <Ash-Fox> Oh wait, nevermind. I'm confusing it with beryl
[14:37] <drmarwat> but i guess i need the command to configure nvidia driver to work with compiz
[14:37] <Ash-Fox> Dragnslcr, tried compiz-kde?
[14:37] <Ash-Fox> err drmarwat
[14:38] <Ash-Fox> Your window manager needs to support using compiz before you can use compiz effects etc.
[14:39] <Ash-Fox> compiz-kde is a window decorator/window manager that brings compiz to kde
[14:41] <drmarwat> Ash-Fox: i have installed compiz-kde too
[14:42] <epimeth> drmarwat: what release are you using?
[14:42] <drmarwat> epimeth: you mean of the compiz or kubuntu?
[14:42] <epimeth> drmarwat: kubuntu
[14:43] <Barbar-OS> hi
[14:44] <Barbar-OS> how can i open compiz fusion setting manager
[14:44] <drmarwat> 8.04 , thats the version i have installed with kde 3.5.9
[14:45] <epimeth> Barbar-OS: drmarwat: K-menu -> System -> Desktop Effects, THEN K-menu -> settings -> Advnaced Desktop Effects Settings
[14:46] <drmarwat> epimeth: thanks will check that too
[14:46] <epimeth> drmarwat: no worries
[14:46] <PvtRyan> Hi.
[14:47] <rafa_> ola
[14:47] <PvtRyan> When upgrading from 710 -> 804 does anyone else see the updater telling you its updating to 804 LTS?
[14:47] <rafa_> i´m hot
[14:47] <Grim76__> 8.04 is an LTS release
[14:47] <PvtRyan> I was under the impression that kubuntu 804 want LTS
[14:48] <PvtRyan> s/want/wasn't
[14:48] <drmarwat> epimeth: thanks it worked
[14:49] <Grim76__> PvtRyan: You are correct.  I was looking at the wrong information
[14:49] <Pici> PvtRyan: *K*ubuntu isnt LTS. Ubuntu is though, and they share many of the same packages.
[14:49] <PvtRyan> It was a friend told me as I use ubuntu.
[14:50] <PvtRyan> but I spent an hour arguing that 8.04 KB wasn't LTS..
[14:50] <flaccid> LTS is for commercial support anyway
[14:50] <PvtRyan> I figured as much..
[14:50] <Pici> flaccid: Partially, but it also guarantees security updates and access to repositories.
[14:51] <flaccid> well security updates should be guaranteed anyway with any decent distro. access to repos?
[14:51] <PvtRyan> Thinking about raising it as a Bug as it's a tad misleading
[15:01] <PvtRyan> Thanks for the confirmation guys. Bye.
[15:07] <duh> Where can I get gpg keys for packages that apt tells me it can't authenticate?
[15:08] <rajkalyan> can someone help me install java?
[15:08] <rajkalyan> im using kubuntu 7.10
[15:09] <stdin> rajkalyan: install the sun-java6-plugin package to get the java plugin (and jre)
[15:10] <stdin> duh: what packages?
[15:12] <rajkalyan> stdin: i can't get the K menu to open
[15:12] <rajkalyan> should i use konsole and apt-get?
[15:12] <stdin> yeah you can do that, but why can't you open the KMenu?
[15:14] <rajkalyan> i dont know
[15:14] <rajkalyan> i click it, the icon does the animation, it swells up, but nothing happens
[15:16] <rajkalyan> how do i enter
[15:16] <rajkalyan> its giving the license agreement
[15:16] <rajkalyan> i can't push the OK button
[15:16] <rajkalyan> wait i got it
[15:17] <stdin> you use page-up/down, tab and enter to navigate
[15:17] <rajkalyan> thanks
[15:19] <rajkalyan> now how do i test it?
[15:20] <Assurbanipal> damn, compiz goes crazy in kde....
[15:20] <Assurbanipal> wat a pity
[15:20] <Assurbanipal> :S
[15:21] <stdin> rajkalyan: go to java.com maybe?
[15:23] <rajkalyan> what do i do if it does'nt work?
[15:24] <flaccid> sun java aint working in my firefox in fact no java will and the problem seems to be firefox' plugin wrapper..
[15:27] <BluesKaj> flaccid, did you check your default java client , sudo update-alternatives --config java, the choose the java6 if available
[15:27] <flaccid> correct.. thats all good
[15:28] <flaccid> it exceptions out in the java, but it appears to be the wrapper causing it. people in #firefox couldn't even tell me how firefox handles java so screw em
[15:29] <BluesKaj> maybe check in #java
[15:29] <flaccid> nah they will get pissed with that
[15:31] <Pici> flaccid: Did you try uninstalling gcjwebplugin ?
[15:32] <flaccid> yes, but firefox requires it regardless of what java you want to use
[15:32] <flaccid> that appears to be the wrapper
[15:32] <BluesKaj> flaccid, got a url that's java heavy ?
[15:32] <Pici> flaccid: No, I'm using java here without that installed.
[15:32] <flaccid> um not really, i just use the java test page @ sun
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:32] <flaccid> Pici: i uninstalled it and firefox would complain that i need it
[15:32] <flaccid> Pici: ubuntu version?
[15:33] <Pici> flaccid: 8.04.  Make sure that you've configured update-alternatives to use sun's java after you uninstall it
[15:34] <Pici> flaccid: I also went through and configured the rest of the java alternatives, javac, javah, etc... but thats because I was reaching when I was doing it originally.
[15:35] <flaccid> Pici: did that too!
[15:35] <flaccid> i did updated all alternatives, still complained
[15:36] <flaccid> even after reboot
[15:36] <Pici> flaccid: And about:plugins says what?
[15:36] <flaccid> i can't remember that one...
[15:37] <flaccid> i'll try now
[15:37] <flaccid> Pici: what is your dpkg -l | grep gcj ?
[15:38] <Pici> flaccid: http://pastebin.com/f5d9112fe
[15:39] <flaccid> ok, yeah its not intalled atm
[15:39] <flaccid> are you sure it shows in about:plugins ?
[15:39] <flaccid> i don't get java listed there
[15:43] <flaccid> Pici: oh it also endlessly asks me to install plugins for the page
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> !find eclipse
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> !info eclipse
[15:45] <zorglu_> !vmware
[15:45] <StFS> help... I was having problems with the application list not appearing when I did Alt+Tab and figured out somehow that kwin had to be responsible, so I did "apt-get --reinstall install kwin". Now kwin is not starting at all when I log in. How can I reset the whole thing to "factory settings"?
[15:47] <flaccid> StFS: define 'whole thing' ?
[15:48] <StFS> flaccid: ok... :) "anything that needs to be reset so I get my window title bars back as well as the application list when I do Alt+Tab"
[15:51] <StFS> this most likely has something to do with me messing about with "Desktop Effects", I have since then removed all the compiz stuff but as I say, kwin is not working properly
[15:52] <StFS> or... more accurately, it's not starting when I log in and after I start it manually, I'm not getting the application list when I do Alt+Tab
[15:52] <genii> StFS: If kwin  is not strting what is the default window manager?
[15:54] <thewhitepelican> does anyone run kubuntu through vbox?
[15:54] <Faust-C> someone please look at this
[15:54] <Faust-C> http://pastebin.ca/1051099
[15:54] <duh> imagemagick can't be authenticated lol
[15:54] <Faust-C> thewhitepelican: whats the issue
[15:54] <Faust-C> trying to get xvidcap to work and i get thsi when itry to make video http://pastebin.ca/1051099
[15:54] <StFS> genii: none as far as I can tell... I don't get any titlebars on my windows at least
[15:55] <thewhitepelican> I have the latest version of vbox, I install the guest additions, and still can't go between guest and host without pressing the right ctrl key
[15:55] <duh> Where to get the gpg key?
[15:56] <flaccid> hooray for my hard crash
[15:56] <flaccid> StFS: pastebin dpkg -l | grep kwin please
[15:56] <genii> flaccid: Ouch
[15:57] <Faust-C> thewhitepelican: whats host system running
[15:57] <flaccid> yeah its happening a lot atm :(
[15:57] <StFS> flaccid: http://pastebin.com/m79f70521
[15:57] <kovak23> i have a wierd problem with kubuntu8.04 KDE4 on Vbox ... i cant seem to type in any kind of qoutes
[15:57] <rajkalyan> i installed java by java's instructions but it still won't work
[15:58] <thewhitepelican> Faust-C, gentoo. Also, I noticed when I attempt to shut down form kde4 beta 1 (which is what I'm running under vbox) it crashes and dumps me back to the gms screen
[15:59] <thewhitepelican> er gdm screen
[15:59] <Faust-C> thewhitepelican: probably cause of kde4 but idk havent ran across that
[15:59] <kovak23> instead of double qoutes i get Â? in the text files... which i cud only see if i changed encodign to ansi instead of utf-8
[15:59] <flaccid> StFS: goto a konsole now and do kwin --replace and let me know the problems
[15:59] <thewhitepelican> ok thanks for trying
[16:00] <Faust-C> error i get when trying to use xvidcap http://pastebin.ca/1051099
[16:00] <StFS> flaccid: ok, when I do that I get the title- and scrollbars back on all the windows but Alt+Tab only switches between windows but doesn't display a list of applications
[16:01] <StFS> flaccid: that problem may be unrelated to kwin though I guess
[16:01] <flaccid> StFS: its possible that behaviour is turned off
[16:01] <StFS> flaccid: but I'm going to log out now and back in to see if kwin starts automatically or not... hang on
[16:01] <flaccid> and if it doesn't
[16:01] <flaccid> StFS: start a failsafe session from kdm, then in the konsole run startkde and see if you get errors about kwin.
[16:02] <StFS> flaccid: yes it's possible.. but then I'd like to know how to turn that back on
[16:02] <StFS> flaccid: will do... be back in just a sec
[16:02] <flaccid> StFS: Window Behaviour in system settings...
[16:02] <flaccid> 'Show window list while switching windows' :)
[16:03]  * flaccid lets you go test
[16:03] <Faust-C> error i get when trying to use xvidcap http://pastebin.ca/1051099
[16:03] <StFS> flaccid: grmpfh... it was off... thanks... so now I only hope I didn't mess up kwin completely doing my exercises with reinstalling it... gonna try that now...
[16:04] <flaccid> cool
[16:05] <BluesKaj> flaccid, most sites render fine even tho the,  http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml , doesn't load the applet in the test.
[16:05] <flaccid> serious?
[16:05] <flaccid> let me try
[16:06] <flaccid> still no good, i'll try a few things and get back later
[16:07] <thewhitepelican> Faust-C, does there need to be some program or daemon running in kubuntu to utilize the switch between guest and host?
[16:07] <lakis1982> how do i set my computer going into sleep mode after some minutes of inactivity??
[16:07] <Faust-C> thewhitepelican: no, should work out of the box,
[16:07] <thewhitepelican> hmmm
[16:08] <Faust-C> error i get when trying to use xvidcap http://pastebin.ca/1051099
[16:08] <StFS> flaccid: nope... it doesn't start automatically... running "kwin --replace &" manually works fine but of course I shouldn't have to do this manually all the tima
[16:08] <thewhitepelican> Faust-C, also, it doesn't work in ubuntu either. I installed that first
[16:08] <StFS> s/tima/time/
[16:09] <Faust-C> thewhitepelican: maybe its a issue w/ gentoo ? i primarly virtualize MS, havent had much use for linux vm unless its on ESX
[16:09] <thewhitepelican> oh ok
[16:09] <thewhitepelican> possible
[16:09] <thewhitepelican> ty
[16:10] <flaccid> StFS: need to do the failsafe session and see the problem , but pastebin ~/.xsession-errors first
[16:13] <StFS> flaccid: http://pastebin.com/dbfda730
[16:14] <StFS> flaccid: gonna reboot into safe mode... although I don't think there's any error going on... I just think that this Desktop Effect stuff somehow replaced some line somewhere from starting kwin to starting compiz... and when I removed the Desktop Effect thingy, it didn't properly revert that config change...
[16:14] <Faust-C> error i get when trying to use xvidcap http://pastebin.ca/1051099
[16:15] <StFS> anyways... going into failsafe
[16:16] <flaccid> StFS: what kde version are you running and which desktop effects?
[16:17] <StFS> flaccid: ok... I'm in failsafe mode now and I got a single terminal up that way but the window doesn't have any titlebar (so I'm assuming that kwin wasn't started)
[16:17] <flaccid> ^^
[16:17] <StFS> flaccid: I'm on kubuntu 8.04, and I have installed KDE4 as well but I'm not using that at all
[16:18] <flaccid> which effects were you using?
[16:18] <StFS> flaccid: so, just the KDE packages from the official kubuntu repositories
[16:18] <flaccid> in kde3
[16:18] <zorglu_> ultra naive question, i installed vmware server, all went well... but now how do i launch virtual machine on it ?
[16:18] <flaccid> also are your sessions turned on and is there anything in Autostart?
[16:18] <StFS> flaccid: umm... just the ones that were in the menu... (I don't have the K menu in failsafe mode) but it's just called "Desktop Effects" and there's an install button there
[16:19] <StFS> flaccid: hmm my sessions turned on?
[16:19] <rav> StFS: sounds like compiz was uninstalled while enabled. Happened to me, i reinstalled compiz, and choose 'No Effects' to enable Kwin
[16:19] <flaccid> StFS: right, so i would assume compiz is running on startup and that needs to be turned off
[16:19] <StFS> rav: hmm... interesting... I'll try that maybe
[16:19] <StFS> flaccid: yup... gonna try what rav suggested
[16:19] <StFS> be back in a bit
[16:19] <flaccid> desktop-effects-kde4 is experimental and doesn't work very good with compiz fusion
[16:20] <flaccid> yah turn off effects
[16:20] <StFS> bahh... how the hell do I log out of failsafe mode?
[16:20] <flaccid> um
[16:20] <flaccid> exit out of all windows/consoles
[16:22] <StFS> flaccid: yup... figured that one out :)
[16:22] <flaccid> hey my config window has nothing in it
[16:22] <flaccid> oops wrong window
[16:23] <flaccid> desktop-effects-kde4 was crashin hectic on me i couldn't realy use it
[16:25] <StFS> woohoo... it worked
[16:25] <StFS> rav: thanks
[16:26] <StFS> flaccid: thanks so much for all your help!
[16:26] <rav> StFS: you're welcome
[16:26] <flaccid> hey StFS so is your compiz fusion working now or you using kwin ?
[16:28] <StFS> flaccid: using kwin
[16:28] <StFS> flaccid: never got that compiz desktop effect thingy to work properly
[16:28] <StFS> flaccid: or at least, I never noticed any difference
[16:29] <flaccid> StFS: yeah it didn't even start lol
[16:29] <flaccid> you have to do compiz --replace
[16:29] <flaccid> but it looks like it was running for you on the startup but no window decorations etc.
[16:30] <StFS> flaccid: well no... the problem I had was when I switched back to kwin... so when I was (or at least thought I was) running compiz, everything looked ok (not particularly flashy, but it worked)... but when I removed the desktop effects and went back to kwin everything got borked
[16:31] <flaccid> right understood
[16:31] <StFS> flaccid: so I think compiz was running for me... but as I said, I just didn't notice anything flashy ;)
[16:31] <flaccid> you have to configure it
[16:32] <flaccid> the window decorations if working would of looked different to kwin/kde
[16:32] <StFS> flaccid: yeah, I'm sure I just have to do something "undocumented" to get it working properly... but since this is my work laptop I'm just gonna give up on flashy stuff for now ;)
[16:32] <StFS> I have KDE4 and I can play around with that if I want... that's more than enough for me ;)
[16:33] <rav> i've only used compiz on kde 3.5.9. I didn't like that it only has 2 desktops, and can't use my Kwin sounds that I'm very fond of.
[16:37] <genii> rav: The number of desktops can be changed in the ccsm. The underlying kwin themes can be used in compiz with the kde-window-decorator --replace
[16:38] <rav> genii: the sound themes?
[16:38] <genii> rav: Seems to work onmine.
[16:40] <RiotingPacifist> i ran out of space on /boot and so i manually deleted some files, now i cant uninstall  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic, not too bad, but because i tried to now my apt-get is unusalbe
[16:40] <rav> genii: what's ccsm?
[16:40] <genii> RiotingPacifist: So apt-get install --reinstall it then remove it again
[16:41] <genii> rav: compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:42] <lakis1982> how do i set my computer going into sleep mode after some minutes of inactivity??
[16:42] <RiotingPacifist> genii that doesn't work
[16:42] <rav> genii: interesting, that wasn't installed. Will play around with it :)
[16:45] <genii> RiotingPacifist: Do the !aptfix, then the --reinstall thing then the remove thing
[16:45] <genii> !aptfix
[16:47] <RiotingPacifist> genii: still no luck :(
[16:47] <genii> RiotingPacifist: What exact error is it giving
[16:48] <virtualman> Bom dia pessoal!
[16:48] <genii> !br | virtualman
[16:48] <RiotingPacifist> gzip: stdout: No space left on device // update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic// subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:49] <virtualman> estou com um problema no aptitude update/upgrade
[16:49] <genii> RiotingPacifist: OK. Thats because when you removed some of those files, the post install script can't find them and errors out. Just force it
[16:49] <virtualman> alguem sabe como resolver
[16:51] <virtualman>  estou com um problema no aptitude update/upgrade alguem sabe como resolver ?
[16:51] <virtualman> Removendo linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-17-generic ...
[16:51] <virtualman> FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.24-17-generic': No such file or directory
[16:51] <virtualman> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic
[16:51] <virtualman> Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.24-17-generic
[16:52] <Pici> !br | virtualman
[16:52] <virtualman> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic
[16:52] <virtualman> dpkg: erro processando linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-17-generic (--remove):
[16:52] <genii> virtualman: English por favor
[16:52] <virtualman>  subprocesso post-removal script retornou código de saída de error 1
[16:52] <virtualman> Erros foram encontrados durante processamento de:
[16:52] <virtualman>  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-17-generic
[16:52] <virtualman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:52] <virtualman> A instalação de um pacote falhou. Tentando recuperar :
[16:52] <Pici> ...
[16:53] <genii> RiotingPacifist: dpkg with the --force-remove-reinstreq  option  should work on it
[16:53] <RiotingPacifist> thx
[16:54] <virtualman> !br | virtualman
[16:56] <genii> virtualman:  /j #ubuntu-br
[16:59] <The-Compiler> How can I export a raw file from audacity?
[17:04] <rajkalyan> is there anyway to launch adept without the K menu? like with run command?
[17:05] <rajkalyan> is there any way to terminate the K menu and restart it
[17:08] <rajkalyan> how do i test if i have flash?
[17:09] <luvinlinux> youtube
[17:27] <lg188_> hey
[17:28] <rajkalyan> can you guys help me with my mouse
[17:28] <rajkalyan> i can't use my mouse
[17:28] <rajkalyan> i have to use my touchpad
[17:28] <lg188_> I'm having trouble with installing my new g wirless desktop card
[17:28] <lg188_> hey
[17:28] <rajkalyan> wireless?
[17:29] <lg188_> yes
[17:29] <rajkalyan> is it a trendnet?
[17:29] <lg188_> let me check
[17:29] <rajkalyan> and get me the model # aswell
[17:30] <lg188_> belkin Wirelles G Desktop Card
[17:30] <rajkalyan> oh snap
[17:30] <dwidmann> what in the name of weirdness ..... I just logged out and logged back in, and everything in my home folder is showing up on my desktop
[17:30] <rajkalyan> its belkin??
[17:30] <lg188_> yes
[17:30] <dwidmann> and the Desktop and Desktop2 directories are gone ...
[17:31] <rajkalyan> ok lets get busy
[17:31] <lg188_> ^^
[17:31] <lg188_> can't fiend the mdoel number
[17:31] <rajkalyan> do you have ndiswrapper?
[17:31] <lg188_> model*
[17:31] <lg188_> nope
[17:31] <lg188_> i can transport with usb
[17:31] <rajkalyan> should be on top or on barcode #
[17:31] <rajkalyan> is it a pci or usb
[17:32] <lg188_> 7000df
[17:32] <lg188_> oh ..
[17:32] <stdin> dwidmann: in System Settings -> About Me -> Paths, change the "Desktop path" to something else, then back to your Desktop dir
[17:32] <rajkalyan> copy the number and the name and everything
[17:32] <rajkalyan> you'll need it
[17:32] <dwidmann> stdin: known issue?
[17:32] <lg188_> rajkalyan: that's kk
[17:32] <rajkalyan> whats kk?
[17:33] <stdin> dwidmann: it's been reported yeah, but the cause is unknown
[17:33] <lg188_> Belkin Wireless G Desktop Card ver. 7000df / 74c0302665
[17:33] <rajkalyan> great
[17:33] <rajkalyan> first install ndiswrapper
[17:33] <lg188_> rajkalyan: mesn ok
[17:33] <lg188_> means*
[17:33] <dwidmann> stdin: did the others who reported have a dual head setup by any chance?
[17:34] <rajkalyan> lg188_: go to tprivate cha
[17:34] <dwidmann> (just a curiosity question)
[17:34] <stdin> dwidmann: not all
[17:34] <rajkalyan> *private *chat
[17:34] <lg188_> kk
[17:34] <dwidmann> okay, that rules that out then
[17:37] <dwidmann> thanks stdin, that and a logout took care of it
[17:48] <Muzer> what is the easiest way to schedule a program to run every bootup?
[17:50] <lg188_> actual shoudl be handy never knowed
[17:50] <dwidmann> Muzer: I would just add it as a script to /etc/init.d/ Muzer
[17:51] <RiotingPacifist> i need to manually install some source code for a ubuntu package, where to i put it so that compilers know its thier?
[17:51] <Muzer> dwidmann: Thanks. I just made a tmp folder in my home folder because it's more convinient to access, and I want it to clear on boot.
[17:51] <dwidmann> Muzer: hmm?
[17:52] <dwidmann> okay then
[17:53] <Muzer> do I just add a symlink to the script at "/etc/init.d/cleartmp.sh" then
[17:53] <kreger_> hey all
[18:00] <virtualman> olá pessoal estou retornando aqui para pedir ajuda novamente. Se alguém puder ajudar ficaria agradecido
[18:01] <dwidmann> muzer: just put the file in there or symlink or whatnot, then "sudo update-rc.d scriptname (not full path!!) defaults
[18:01] <virtualman> o meu problema esta com um link quebrado e não consigo mais atualizar meu sistemas
[18:08] <ivan_> hello, how can i see my grub list?? where is it>>??
[18:10] <lg188_> crap
[18:10] <EagleScreen> ivan_: it is in /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[18:10] <lg188_> sorry
[18:11] <lg188_> can anbody helpme with instalin nisdwrapper
[18:12] <ivan_> Eagle
[18:13] <lg188_> how do you install an package with adept ?
[18:13] <lg188_> hallo ?
[18:13] <ivan_> EagleScreen, if i have installed ubuntu and i cant see it my grub menu what do i do, i added new lines and redirected them to their partition, but still i cant enter ubuntu
[18:14] <lg188_> ivan_: i would like to help you but it's to long i didn't used (K)Ubuntu
[18:15] <nightrow> i have a problem: after removing compiz, i lost window border. Someone said to type kwin --replace, which works, but i have to type it at each session startup. How can i fix that ?
[18:16] <ivan_> lg188_, thanks no worries
[18:16] <ivan_> !ubuntu
[18:16] <EagleScreen> grub is the same for kubuntu and ubuntu
[18:16] <lg188_> I KNWO THA I DIN4T USED A LONG TIME
[18:16] <lg188_> sxorry for caps
[18:16] <EagleScreen> ivan: is your menu.lst file empty??
[18:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> isn't it a little early in the day to be hitting a bottle of grandpa's cough syrup?
[18:17] <ivan_> EagleScreen, nope
[18:17] <lg188_> Daisuke_Laptop: what the time ?
[18:17] <EagleScreen> nope?
[18:18] <lg188_> Daisuke_Laptop: in begium its 19.18 not to early in the day for me
[18:18] <lg188_> Belgium*
[18:19] <EagleScreen> ivan, do you still have problems with GRUB?
[18:19] <contrast83> Greets, everyone.
[18:19] <contrast83> Anyone here using E17?
[18:19] <lg188_> contrast83: greets
[18:20] <lg188_> contrast83: i don't
[18:20] <nightrow> anyone for my problem ?
[18:21] <ivan_> EagleScreen, yes i cant open my ubuntu, since i installed my kubuntu i cant enter to kubuntu it does not appear on he grub even though it has its partition and files, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21442/  i added some lines so it could work but they dont work
[18:26] <SlimG> Anyone know of a good audiotagging application for KDE? I'm used to Kid3
[18:27] <emilsedgh> SlimG: better than Amarok?
[18:29] <SlimG> I think Amarok is a bit lean on taggingfeatures, but thanks for the tip emilsedgh
[18:29] <lg188_> emilsedgh: that's than really good the
[18:29] <contrast83> SlimG: EasyTag and Cowbells are nice, but they're Gtk.
[18:30] <emilsedgh> there are some plans to make it awesome on Amarok2 i guess.
[18:30] <contrast83> Anyone using the Neon repo for Amarok 2? I'm wondering if it's worth checking out.
[18:31] <SlimG> contrast83: Well, if theyr'e good it doesn't really matter if they're GTK, so I'll try them out (thanks)
[18:31] <contrast83> SlimG: No prob, it's been a while since I used either, so I don't remember which one I liked more. Amarok usually does the job for me.
[18:32] <contrast83> SlimG: On a similar note, if you need a killer batch-renamer, KRename is great - it can name files based on meta info (id3 tags for example).
[18:33] <lg188_> Belkin Wireless G Desktop Card ver. 7000df / 74c0302665 problems getting it ready
[18:33] <contrast83> Doesn't Xubuntu have a batch renamer installed by default?
[18:33] <SlimG> contrast83: Kid3 already does that in addition to it's tagging-features
[18:33] <contrast83> SlimG: Ahh, nice... So why not use that? -_~
[18:35] <SlimG> contrast83: It has some minor limits, and I'd hate do use the same application forever if theres a better alternative out there, therefore I ask you guys :)
[18:36] <contrast83> Point taken. I'm the same way on always looking for something better, hehe.
[19:23] <jcolbert> can anyone point out something that might explain how to setup a kubuntu netboot server for Dell GX280
[19:24] <Flare183> !server | jcolbert
[19:26] <jcolbert> thanx flare183, I was under the impression that I would not need to use ubuntu server for this task, as I just want to configure a PXE boot
[19:27] <Flare183> jcolbert: Well there is no such thing as Kubuntu Server, just Ubuntu Server
[19:31] <dwidmann> Flare183: but there is such a thing as kubuntu with some server-ish daemons running
[19:31] <Flare183> dwidmann: yes, yes there is
[19:35] <glasse> Hi, I'm having some keyboard trouble: when I press F4 at a console running loadkeys, I get the keycod 0x83 0xd5, but when running xev, I don't get any symbol at all. F3 and F5 both send keycodes fine.
[19:38] <soner> what is the best emulator for ubuntu to run windows on it? i couldn't get run battlefield 2 with wine
[19:38] <compilerwriter> Anyone here use KMyMoney?  There is nobody on their channel at moment.
[19:38] <emilsedgh> soner: there is just wine.
[19:39] <soner> emilsedgh:  i'm talking about somethinlike wmvare
[19:39] <emilsedgh> soner: vmware :)
[19:39] <soner> but it's not free
[19:39] <emilsedgh> qemu
[19:40] <soner> is it good?
[19:40] <emilsedgh> i dont know
[19:40] <mr---t-> soner: make sure you have the latest updates from wine , I had programs that wouldn't run with the version that came on the cd but run fine now after updates
[19:40] <emilsedgh> check it out
[19:40] <emilsedgh> Wine 1.0 Released yesterday though.Viva Wine
[19:42] <czarny> hej
[19:42] <czarny> jest tu ktoś z polski?
[19:44] <emilsedgh> !pl | czarny
[19:44] <slow-motion> hi
[19:47] <kanniball> hi!
[19:48] <mr---t-> !hello
[19:48] <kanniball> :)
[19:49] <kanniball> I would like to format my new 500GB external drive with other filesystem...
[19:49] <kanniball> I've read about ext3 and xfs, but they don't support undelete in a simple way
[19:49] <kanniball> and since this willl be a backup drive (usb), it would be nice to have undelete support
[19:50] <kanniball> anybody can point me to another filesystem?
[19:53] <dwidmann> kanniball: I'm not sure any filesystems have a particularly convenient way to undelete.
[19:54] <dwidmann> kanniball: your best bet is to rely on the "trash" folder really ... that way you get a second chance to think hard before deleting
[19:55] <kanniball> but in a network shared disk, is not that easy
[19:57] <nagybakay> üdv
[19:58] <nagybakay> valaki tudna nekem segíteni ?
[19:59] <__Adam___> hello, Is KDE 4 released and stable?
[20:00] <emilsedgh> __Adam___: KDE 4.0 is relased.KDE 4.1 will be released in 29 July
[20:00] <SSJ_GZ> __Adam___: KDE4 was released on Jan 11th.  "Stability" seems to vary from person to person.
[20:00] <__Adam___> okay
[20:00] <emilsedgh> hey SSJ_GZ
[20:00] <SSJ_GZ> __Adam___: Feature regressions from KDE3 seem to cause more problems than instability, though.
[20:00] <__Adam___> is it easy to upgrade from 3 to 4?
[20:01] <SSJ_GZ> emilsedgh: Hey dude :)
[20:01] <SSJ_GZ> __Adam___: Depends on your distro.  I don't think there's any tool to convert your KDE3 settings to KDE4 ones, though :/
[20:02] <emilsedgh> SSJ_GZ: iirc there arent changed.apps should work with older settings
[20:02]  * __Adam___ is running Kubuntu :)
[20:02] <SSJ_GZ> emilsedgh: Cool - have you tried this yourself?
[20:03] <dwidmann> kanniball: an interesting, custom solution if multiple linux computers are involves, would be to use konqueror and create a service menu for moving the file to a trash folder you specify instead of actually deleting the file
[20:03] <__Adam___> i have been running Kubuntu for 3 weeks.... was opensuse 10.3
[20:03] <emilsedgh> SSJ_GZ: no
[20:03] <dwidmann> !hardy | __Adam___
[20:03] <dwidmann> hmm, wait, that's not the one I wanted
[20:03] <dwidmann> rats
[20:03] <dwidmann> !factoids > dwidmann
[20:04] <__Adam___> that would be the one :) 8.04
[20:05] <kanniball> dwidmann: ok, that's a solution...
[20:05] <kanniball> dwidmann: I will use ext3...
[20:05] <dwidmann> !kde4 | __Adam___
[20:05] <Nyad> what cpu architechtures does kubuntu run on?
[20:05] <__Adam___> cant use apt then ?
[20:06] <SSJ_GZ> emilsedgh: Ok
[20:06] <dwidmann> Nyad: i386 and amd64 are supported .... not sure about sparc, and they've discontinued ppc
[20:06] <dwidmann> !architecture
[20:07] <Nyad> ok so only intel and amd  with their i386 and amd64. no others?
[20:07] <Nyad> that's x86 and x86-64 right?
[20:07] <dwidmann> right
[20:07] <__Adam___> got it :P
[20:08] <damien> #bash
[20:09] <Nyad> dwidmann: but linux runs on other archs, why doesn't ubuntu?
[20:09] <dwidmann> Nyad: maintenance takes time and effort, the more arch's you add ..... well, you can see where that's going
[20:10] <Nyad> MS windows only runs on x86 and x86-64 right?
[20:10] <dwidmann> as far as I know
[20:11] <__Adam___> i think they did support another Nyad
[20:11] <damien> Is it useful to always have Konsole open?
[20:11] <SSJ_GZ> damien: That's up to you :)
[20:11] <dwidmann> __Adam___: there are also packages for KDE 4.1B available (4.0.80) and a kde-nightly setup (4.0.82 currently)
[20:11] <dwidmann> !info yakuake | damien
[20:11] <__Adam___> dwidmann, i'll stick with a stable release :)
[20:22] <stefan-f> How can I see which runlevel exclamd is using?
[20:40] <miquel_puig> hi is someone here who can help me, I have a problem with my wireless network
[20:40] <miquel_puig> ?
[20:42] <_CrashMaster_> miquel_puig: Whats the problem?
[20:42] <ubunturos> !wifi | miquel_puig
[20:43] <miquel_puig> I've always used GNOME, but decided to try KDE, so I installed it, but the wireless connection doesn't work, when in GNOME it did. Moreover, if I enter to GNOME and then close session and go to KDE it works
[20:44] <miquel_puig> you can check my syslog, iwconfig and ifconfig here: http://pastebin.php-es.info/1234
[20:45] <virtualman> !br
[20:48] <_CrashMaster_> miquel_puig: hang on, Im looking at it
[20:48] <miquel_puig> sure, thanks
[20:49] <_CrashMaster_> hm. looks like everything is ok.. what exactly are your symptoms?
[20:49] <miquel_puig> well...
[20:50] <miquel_puig> in KDE internet just doesn't work, any ping gets a "network unreachable" message
[20:50] <miquel_puig> even to the router
[20:50] <_CrashMaster_> And you're sure you've succesfully associated to your WAP?
[20:51] <miquel_puig> it's WEP, and yes, because in GNOME works fine
[20:52] <_CrashMaster_> So.. you start KDE and can't connect  to the network. But if you start Gnome and then switch to KDE you can connect?
[20:52] <miquel_puig> right
[20:52] <_CrashMaster_> What application are you using in KDE to manage your network connections?
[20:53] <miquel_puig> hmm I think it's Kmenu/preferences/internet/wireless manager or sth alike
[20:54] <_CrashMaster_> try Knetworkmanager. Kmenu / Internet / Knetworkmanager
[20:54] <miquel_puig> ok, I'll try
[21:09] <mrksbrd> anyone know how to extract an .exe file to get the contents??
[21:10] <Agent_bob> unzip file.exe
[21:10] <mrksbrd> asking me for a program to do it though
[21:11] <Agent_bob> are you sure it's an execitable zip file then ?
[21:11] <Agent_bob> maybe some wierd warper around a cab file or something
[21:13] <mrksbrd> it is a windows driver package exe file for my wifi card
[21:13] <_CrashMaster_> and extractable .exe sounds like a win32 binary.
[21:13] <mrksbrd> ark will not do it since it is a windows file
[21:14] <_CrashMaster_> Extract it via Wine
[21:15] <mrksbrd> all i need is the inf file for my wificard...the one I have gotten thru here doesn't want to work  even though i had it running in the past
[21:15] <_CrashMaster_> mrksbrd: Sounds like you're using ndiswrapper, which means you'll need the .inf and the .sys drivers.
[21:15] <_CrashMaster_> mrksbrd: do you have a running Windows box anywhere?
[21:16] <mrksbrd> this is a dual boot machine
[21:17] <mrksbrd> guess i'll have to boot up windows....just wasn't sure if linux had the capabilities to do the same
[21:17] <Agent_bob> err umm is the .inf not in C:\windows\inf\ ?
[21:17] <mrksbrd> should be
[21:18] <mrksbrd> not sure if i can access it from linux side though
[21:18] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: Not if he hasn't extracted the drivers
[21:18] <_CrashMaster_> mrksbrd: You have a flash drive, or a CD burner?
[21:19] <mrksbrd> flash
[21:19] <_CrashMaster_> boot to windows, extract your files to the flash drive, then boot back in linux.
[21:19] <rav> hello. I installed hplip 2.8.5 from a binary, and now I want to go back to the official kubuntu version 2.8.2. I've tried removing /usr/share/hplip, but when I install 2.8.2 I can't use it
[21:19] <_CrashMaster_> Linux will see the flash drive and you can copy  / use your files as needed.
[21:20] <mrksbrd> yea was as simple as it sounds i now like to use windows as little as possible.....but if i must
[21:21] <mrksbrd> thanks all
[21:21] <Agent_bob> _CrashMaster_ ?    never mind.   we aren't on the same page.
[21:21] <_CrashMaster_> Agent_bob: I dont even know what book we're reading.
[21:22] <Agent_bob> _CrashMaster_ :)
[21:23] <Agent_bob> rav sounds like the config file needs purged
[21:24] <Agent_bob> rav maybe something like  sudo apt-get -P remove cupsys hplip ;sudo apt-get install cupsys hplip
[21:24] <Agent_bob> s/-P/--purge/
[21:25] <rav> Agent_bob: I tried purging hplip and it didn't work. will purging cups help?
[21:25] <Agent_bob> try it
[21:26] <zabbadapp> Kopete (3.x in Kubuntu 8.04) with the OTR crypto plugin seems to ignore any character encoding settings for a contact (I get utf-8 text shown as non variable-mulitbyte). Or am I doing it wrong?
[21:28] <rav> Agent_bob: it wants to uninstall kubuntu-dekstop
[21:29] <helpy> how do you run commands as root ?
[21:29] <helpy> or get owner's access for specific actions ?
[21:29] <darkdelusions> Does anyone know if they updated the kde 4.1 packages recently with a more recent build?
[21:30] <Agent_bob> rav so let it.  you lose nothing thre.
[21:30] <Agent_bob> there
[21:31] <_CrashMaster_> helpy: use "sudo"
[21:31] <Agent_bob> !sudo helpy
[21:31] <Agent_bob> !sudo | helpy
[21:31] <helpy> yea but i want to delete a folder from my home directory in konqueror
[21:31] <helpy> how do i do that with root privilege ?
[21:32] <milos> kdesu konqueror
[21:32] <Agent_bob> why use konq just to del a dir ?    sudo rm -R path/
[21:33] <Agent_bob> why use konq just to del a dir ?    sudo rm -R dir
[21:33] <helpy> umm
[21:33] <helpy> lets see
[21:34] <elbasan> hey I am new on this linux but when I go to add or remove programs- internet- firefox is green I can't clik on to install
[21:34] <Agent_bob> if you use konq it will probably trash it rather than deleting it anyway.    and if you have root owned crap in your home dir there is something wrong with what you've been doing anyway
[21:34] <milos> Agent_bob: some people like GUI apps. Do not ram command line down their throats :-)
[21:35] <helpy> thanks it worked milos
[21:35] <helpy> thanks Agent_bob
[21:35] <rav> Agent_bob: still not working
[21:35] <milos> helpy: type "kdesu konqueror" and press Enter. Enter the root password at the prompt. Type Shift-Delete to delete files (they will NOT go to trash)
[21:36] <Agent_bob> rav give me a sec.
[21:36] <elbasan> hey any help with this kubuntu I am going crazy
[21:37] <FTB|Schlaaaand> Schlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand
[21:38] <milos> elbasan: Describe your problem without undue emotion :-)
[21:38] <bs_> hallo
[21:38] <Agent_bob> rav check in  /etc/hp/hplip.conf
[21:39] <milos> elbasan: provide exact details, your actions, Kubuntu responses.
[21:39] <Agent_bob> rav check it's "home" and "run" settings      >>> home=/usr/lib/hplip  run=/var/run/hplip
[21:39] <elbasan> how to install firefox or macromedia flash or any other programs from internet
[21:40] <rav> Agent_bob: i have that file. run is just '/var/run'
[21:40] <milos> You need to spend some time reading basic documentation. It's like you were asking how to operate a car parking automat when the procedure is written right on the parking automat itself.
[21:40] <elbasan> hahhaha
[21:40] <Agent_bob> rev ok home is the more important var there
[21:41] <rav> Agent_bob: and home is /usr/share/hplip
[21:41] <milos> elbasan: when you click the Start button there is a menu item called "Add/Remove programs'.
[21:41] <Agent_bob> rav try changing it's home   see if it helps.  you'll have to restart it too     sudo /etc/init.d/hplip* restart
[21:42] <elbasan> when I go to add or remove programs-- internet-- firefox is green I can not clik on so that I can install
[21:42] <bestpvp> whats the best way to deteck your drives?
[21:43] <Agent_bob> bestpvp hdd's ?
[21:43] <bestpvp> yeah
[21:43] <Agent_bob> bestpvp cat /proc/partitions
[21:43] <Agent_bob> bestpvp if you need more info use     sudo fdisk -l      and if that's not enough    lswh | less
[21:44] <Agent_bob> ooops   lshw | less
[21:44] <Agent_bob> typo.
[21:44] <rav> Agent_bob: there's no hplip on /etc/init.d
[21:44] <milos> elbasan: I have never seen any green color in Add/Remove programs.
[21:44] <bestpvp> i see the usb drives
[21:44] <Agent_bob> rav ah.  maybe that's a problem  o.O
[21:44] <rav> reboot?
[21:44] <bestpvp> not sure if there mounted or not that
[21:44] <Agent_bob> rav what for ?
[21:45] <rav> Agent_bob: last resort
[21:45] <milos> elbasan: but if Add/Remove programs is malfunctioning, run Adept Manager.
[21:45] <Agent_bob> rav of a windows user maybe.
[21:46] <Agent_bob> rav   grep etc/init.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/hplip.list
[21:46] <rav> Agent_bob: no result
[21:46] <Agent_bob> ;/
[21:46] <Agent_bob> ok!
[21:48] <Agent_bob> rav   grep etc/init.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/hpoj.list
[21:48] <rav> Agent_bob: No such file or directory
[21:48] <Agent_bob> rav how did you install hplip ?
[21:49] <elbasan> when I go to adept manager I search for firefox and I get mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb status installed
[21:49] <rav> Agent_bob: i installed the binary for version 2.8.5. Then uninstalled it according to HPLIP's website, and installed version 2.8.2 with aptitude.
[21:50] <bestpvp> hey
[21:50] <bestpvp> do usb drives get called elements?
[21:50] <Agent_bob> rav and aptitude didn't throw any errors at you ?
[21:50] <rav> Agent_bob: no
[21:50] <Agent_bob> rav hmmm
[21:51] <milos> elbasan: you need to have "firefox" or "firefox-3.0" or "firefox-2.0" installed.
[21:51] <Agent_bob> rav you still have the bin package ?
[21:51] <milos> elbasan: is your Kubuntu version 8.04 ???
[21:52] <rav> Agent_bob: no, deleted it
[21:52] <Agent_bob> ;/
[21:52] <bestpvp> how do u dedect mounted drives?
[21:52] <Agent_bob> df -h
[21:52] <Agent_bob> or mount
[21:53] <Agent_bob> rav umm i'm thinking.   i'll get back to you,   if no one else jumps in.
[21:53] <milos> elbasan: you need to have "firefox" or "firefox-3.0" or "firefox-2" installed.
[21:53] <rav> Agent_bob: i'll try re-installing the 2.8.5 bin
[21:53] <elbasan> NO my I got the CD from my friend on the CD it is 6.10
[21:54] <bestpvp> i can't find those usb drive there
[21:54] <elbasan> can I update through internet
[21:54] <milos> elbasan: Gee that is ancient Linux. Two years old. You are wasting your time and our time. Get the latest Kubuntu.
[21:55] <Agent_bob> bestpvp oh usb,  that's probably in /proc/usb  or /proc/bus/usb   something err other i don't mess with that much
[21:55] <Agent_bob> bestpvp what exactly have you got ?
[21:55] <elbasan> ok thanks man for your help
[21:55] <milos> elbasan: I do not recommend updating. You would need to go through all versions between 6.10 and 8.04. You would spend at least two whole days doing it
[21:56] <bestpvp> well theres 2 usb drives
[21:56] <Agent_bob> rav maybe install hpoj and see if it fixes it ?
[21:56] <elbasan> thanks milos
[21:56] <slow-motion> n8
[21:56] <bestpvp> sdc1 and sdd1
[21:56] <milos> elbasan: download fresh Kubuntu. Burn to CD. Install new Kubuntu (with HD partition reformatting). This will take 30 minutes.
[21:57] <Agent_bob> bestpvp external hdd, flash thumb drive or what ?
[21:57] <bestpvp> well there 500gb each
[21:57] <rav> Agent_bob: trying that now
[21:57] <bestpvp> externals
[21:58] <Agent_bob> bestpvp ok.   now i know what you have.   what are you trying to get it to do ?
[21:59] <bestpvp> well trying to find away to access them hehe
[22:01] <Agent_bob> bestpvp how about "konqueror: media:// "    or as root: "mkdir -p /media/sdc1 /media/sdd1 ;mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 ;mount /dev/sdd1 /media/sdd1 "
[22:02] <Agent_bob> the first uses the kio slave socket to access the devices  the second is the historic linux way of accessing media "you mount it"
[22:03] <rav> Agent_bob: in installed that, and now I can configure OfficeJets. But hplip is still broken
[22:04] <Agent_bob> bestpvp the "blkid "  the block id of the file system/s is displayed which can be used to make the devices permanant if you want to go that way
[22:05] <Agent_bob> rav idk.   i'm at a loss on that one.   one other thing that might but probably wont help    sudo apt-get --force-all install hplip
[22:06] <Agent_bob> or is it force-yes in apt ???
[22:06] <Agent_bob> force-all is a dpkg switch
[22:07] <Agent_bob> oh and --reinstall  that  ^
[22:07] <blondie> how do you create a script to execute a command?
[22:07] <Agent_bob> but like i said,  i doubt that will help   seeing that you have already purged it and reinstalled it...
[22:07] <Ashex> can anyone tell me where the flash plugin is saved?
[22:07] <Ashex> libflashplayer.so?
[22:08] <Agent_bob> blondie echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\necho "this is my first script"' > script.sh ;chmod 755 script
[22:08] <rav> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21488/
[22:09] <Agent_bob> blondie drop that in a terminal and you'll have made your first one.
[22:10] <Agent_bob> rav hmmm. py module errors.   i'm not a snake charmer
[22:10] <Agent_bob> maybe someone else can answer that one.
[22:11] <Agent_bob> blondie if you do as described above you'll have a working example;   you can remove the line that reads  echo "this is my first script"    and put any command there.
[22:12] <jfpaquin> Hello world!
[22:13] <Agent_bob> err add .sh to chmod script(.sh)     :)
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:16] <Agent_bob> echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\necho "Hello world!"' > my_script.sh ;chmod 755 my_script.sh
[22:16] <Agent_bob> jfpaquin ^
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: bice!
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> *nice
[22:17] <Agent_bob> :)
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: arnie likes one liners too ;)
[22:18] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip ?
[22:18] <Agent_bob> oh arnie   :)
[22:18] <ricardo> oi
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: arnold schwarzeneggar
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> sup ricardo]
[22:19] <SegSis> ola
[22:19] <Agent_bob> !es
[22:19] <SegSis> hola!!
[22:23] <Agent_bob> well they are almost finished updating and patching dapper,  so it's almost time to tell everyone to not use it anymore...    ?    what am i missing about that phylosophi ?      i would think that it's now time to "release" it ...
[22:24] <Agent_bob> it's like saying "i got all the programs working on this system, so it's time to delete the system and try something that doesn't work..."
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  the idea must not be to supply a stable usable system, but rather to "develop software" endlessly and for naugh. </conclusion>
[22:27] <jmichaelx> what is the deal with "
[22:27] <jmichaelx> The desktop entry file
[22:27] <jmichaelx> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[22:27] <jmichaelx> has an invalid menu entry
[22:27] <jmichaelx> addAsPodcast.
[22:27] <jmichaelx> good grief
[22:27] <jmichaelx> apologies, i didn't mean for that to happen
[22:28] <Agent_bob> don't apologize, just state your remorse.
[22:29] <jmichaelx> what is the deal with "The desktop entry file /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop has an invalid menu entry addAsPodcast." showing up whenever a person mouses over the icon for an .html file in dolphin?
[22:29] <jmichaelx> AND.... i am eternally remorseful for my grave error.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: if you dont need it you can remove it
[22:30] <jmichaelx> remove what?
[22:30] <Agent_bob>  what is the deal with "The desktop entry file
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> the .desktop file, then it wont do it
[22:31] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: it isn't a dektop file.
[22:31] <Agent_bob> now i'm remorseful ".'
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: ﻿/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop IS a file
[22:31] <Agent_bob>   /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: how is it NOT a file?
[22:32] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: of course it is a file... it isn't a desktop file, and this happens when i mouse over the icon for ANY saved .html file.... in any dir
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: exactly, that file makes it do that. move the file out of there and see what happens, if you like it, delete it
[22:32] <Agent_bob> it says it's a desktop file
[22:33] <Agent_bob> sudo mv /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop /
[22:33] <jmichaelx> yes, it calls every saved .html file a desktop file... and gives an error related to amarok podcasts.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: its fairly straight forward, you can also add your own to give your own behaviours as you have seen but with something more functional to your needs
[22:33] <jmichaelx> ok, it makes sense to you, but makes none to me. i save an .html file... and then get an error about amarok podcasts when i mouse over it. that makes total sense.
[22:34] <Agent_bob> sudo mv /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop /
[22:34] <Agent_bob> jmichaelx     ^
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: maybe the .desktop file describes mouse over actions
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: id just remove it
[22:34] <jmichaelx> how is it that you guys would not regard this to be a bug?
[22:35] <Agent_bob> i didn't say it wasn't a bug
[22:35] <Agent_bob> did you ActionParsnip ?
[22:35] <Agent_bob> but we both repeted how to fix it
[22:35] <jmichaelx> ok, but you did act as if this would be expected, normal behavior, which it is not
[22:35] <Agent_bob> sudo mv /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop /
[22:35] <jmichaelx> yes, you are indeed repeating yourself.
[22:35] <Agent_bob> yep.   you noticed.
[22:36] <Agent_bob> you are too....
[22:36] <Lam_> I'm looking for a program that can cut up a batch of video files, preferably without quality loss and with a GUI.  Anyone have suggestions?
[22:37] <Agent_bob> !bug | jmichaelx incase you didn't know where you could/should report bugs
[22:38] <jmichaelx> Agent_bob: i was not intending to report a bug, i was wondering if this was a commonly known issue to someone present in this channel. apparently it is.
[22:39]  * Agent_bob is again remorseful ;'(
[22:39]  * jmichaelx is also remorseful
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: .desktop files are powerful but can be quirky and cause weird stuff
[22:39] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: obviously so
[22:39]  * ActionParsnip has heineken
[22:40] <Agent_bob> that's good beer
[22:40] <Agent_bob> as beer goes.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> damn right
[22:40] <jmichaelx> i simply would not have considered a file that was never in the /Desktop dir to be a .desktop.
[22:40] <jmichaelx> or be asscoiated with amarok podcasts
[22:40] <jmichaelx> associated*
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: the .desktop is not related to amarok
[22:41] <Agent_bob> jmichaelx most of your "desktop" files are not in your ~/Desktop
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: the behaviour the file gives just happens to be related to amarok
[22:41] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip:  no, it isn't related to amarok, but amarok is mentioned in the error i was getting... but anyways, i appreciate the solution
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: you could have one that makes the file be renamed to the data
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> date*
[22:42] <Agent_bob> or asks ubottu out on a date ....   ;/
[22:43] <Agent_bob> i mean why couldn't a .desktop file ask an irc bot out ?
[22:43] <jmichaelx> that bot is an overused hussy... i would never recommend anyone ask it out
[22:43] <Agent_bob> !botsnack | ubottu
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> the bot is hilarious
[22:44] <jmichaelx> ...or anything
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> !coffee | jmichaelx
[22:44] <jmichaelx> the bot is a fluzy
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> !anything | jmichaelx
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> the bot is just really handy for redirecting none english speakers
[22:45] <jmichaelx> when i grow up, i would like to be a mod, and somehow ban ubottu
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: you'll have stdin to answer to for that
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: its his pride and joy
[22:46] <Agent_bob> he may go postal and become stderr on you
[22:46] <jmichaelx> if i recall, the bot's name did not always include two T's
[22:46] <Agent_bob> was ubotu
[22:46] <jmichaelx> well, i would enver want to offend stdin
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> ask it :)
[22:47] <jmichaelx> !ubotu
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> !ubotu
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> ehhe
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: no, hes a smart guy and helps lots
[22:47] <jmichaelx> stdin is one of the most helpful #kubuntu folks in history
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> i try and help too, but i hate compiz issues
[22:48]  * Agent_bob tries to not help so much.... but!
[22:48] <jmichaelx> i just hate compiz
[22:49] <BluesKaj> compiz issue don't really belong in here anyway
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> i run it for giggles
[22:49] <BluesKaj> issues
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> i also use a vista theme for irony
[22:49] <Canageek> Um, if dpkg is screwed up and I can't figure out whats wrong is this the palace to get help? I've tried googleing the error message and thats didn't get anything useful.....
[22:49] <jmichaelx> i run compiz to moomentarily mesmerize friends... then shut it off otherwise
[22:49] <_2> !info icewm95
[22:49] <jmichaelx> this is indeed quite the palace
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Canageek: whats the error?
[22:50] <_2> oh.
[22:50] <_2> !info fvwm95
[22:50] <_2> well what did they do ?   just drop that
[22:50] <_2> fvwm95 - Win95 lookalike Window Manager for X
[22:51] <jmichaelx> i cannot get involved, i am still extremely distraught over the removal of xmms.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !icewm
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !xmms
[22:51] <jmichaelx> audacious sucks
[22:52] <_2> was pretty light weight and could fool some people into thinking you were running win95   but in reality it was too advanced to have been win95
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: xmms come in fluxbuntu, gimme a sec
[22:52] <Canageek> hey, never mind I think I fixed it
[22:52] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: i have it, but had to compile it on two machines
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: best way :)
[22:53] <_2> is audacious anything like audicity ?
[22:53] <jmichaelx> the compiling went well, although the volume control slide does not work
[22:53] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, xmms2 is available ...is there a negative difference ?
[22:54] <_2> !info audacious
[22:54] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: there is. maybe xmms2 will be a replacement in the future, but it has no decent GUI at the moment (at least imho)
[22:54] <_2> !info audicity
[22:54] <jmichaelx> it's audacity
[22:54] <BluesKaj> audacity
[22:54] <_2> !info audacity
[22:54] <jmichaelx> and no, audacious and audacity are not at all alike
[22:55] <CDJMarc> exit
[22:55] <_2>  audacity is 8x the size of o audacious
[22:55] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, so not an amarok fan then
[22:55] <WaY> hello
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: i use mplayer or aplay
[22:56] <_2> sox here
[22:56] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: i love amarok, but nothing replaces xmms for an app that comes on instantly when playing streaming audio, or a simgle audio file
[22:56] <_2> and vlc
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: and amarok for XUL script :D
[22:56] <WaY> I've installed kde4 and kde-artworkkde4 and no new decoration themes appeared on mi menu. What happened?
[22:57] <_2> can i !kde4 that ?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !kde4
[22:57] <jmichaelx> audacious chokes on streaming audio fairly frequently for me, which doen't happen with xmms
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> _2: yep
[22:57] <_2> no.  you beet me to it.
[22:57] <WaY> thanks a lot
[22:57] <WaY> and excuse me
[22:57] <jmichaelx> actually, kde4.0.5 is out, isn't it?
[22:58] <_2> 4.1 is being used by many   but "official" may be a key word
[22:59] <jmichaelx> i think 4.0.5 is official, however, and in the repos
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> is everything kde4 friendly now?
[23:02] <joseph> so is there a date where kde4 in kubuntu is stable?
[23:04] <lakis1982> hiii . when i press suspend button computer goes into sleep mode... but after , when i press the power button the computer starts running normally , but screen doesnt start .. and then i have to restart the system ...  can u help me ??
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: you got suspend working. cool
[23:06] <lakis1982> yes but its not function well
[23:06] <lakis1982> i cant resume after suspend... screen remains black
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: looks well documented
[23:08] <_2> in a shell what means  !`  ?
[23:09] <_2> it seems to expand to  " `cat testing.sh` "
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-80169.html
[23:09] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: perhaps you good point him to that documentation?
[23:09] <jmichaelx> good
[23:09] <lakis1982> let me see
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: im in here a fair bit bro
[23:10] <lakis1982> it doesnt say anything
[23:11] <_2> it expands to something in the .bash_history file ?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> _2: wassup
[23:11] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: i am sure you are. i wrongly guessed you were going to mention his issue being well documented, and leave it at that. my assumption was false, although that is common irc behavior by some
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: search for blank screen after hibernate
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: yeah, usually none helpful folks
[23:12] <_2> ActionParsnip what does   !`   expand to ?   i just found that i can't put an ! near the end of an `command `
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> _2: it just means 'end@ afaik
[23:13] <_2> i knew that #! would fall on it's face  but i didn't know that !` would
[23:14] <_2> ActionParsnip nope.    test this.    echo "`echo boo !`"
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> _2: usually you put it at the start of bash scripts
[23:14] <_2> it should say "boo !"   right  ?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> werd engineer
[23:14] <engineer> ActionParsnip ?
[23:14] <_2> but the   !`  expands to some command
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> _2: bash: !`": event not found
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> engineer: just saying howdy
[23:15] <_2> exactly,   but why ?
[23:15] <engineer> fine ActionParsnip what about you?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> engineer: chillin, happy portugal got knocked out :D
[23:15] <engineer> yeah, why?
[23:15] <engineer> you german?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> engineer: I think ronaldo is a smug little wussy boy
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> engineer: UK here man
[23:16] <engineer> i've cried sometimes when i lost an importan volleyball match
[23:16] <engineer> sometimes feelings takeover the control of the situation
[23:17] <_2> ActionParsnip     test these two.    echo "`echo boo !`" ;echo "`echo boo ! `"  # the second works, the first errors out.   the char combo  !`  means something to bash,  but what?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> _2: bash: !`": event not found
[23:22] <NickPresta> _2, using "!" the way you have, invokes the history mechanism. Do this: `ls` Then do: `!l`
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> _2: try history
[23:22] <NickPresta> _2, you can read about the ! character here: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/special-chars.html and http://www.deadman.org/bash.html
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> _2: the ! some numbr, it will rerun that command
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> NickPresta: nice one dude
[23:22] <FoxIII> uhm. I think kubuntu has crashed :( Trying to install amarok but it's just constantly downloading the same file over and over. I've tried stopping it, cleaning it up and trying again, but still doing the same.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> FoxIII: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install amarok
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> FoxIII: should sort you out, if not head back here
[23:26] <braden_> whats up fellas
[23:26] <braden_> what up
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> braden_: nm man you ok
[23:27] <braden_> ya im good, haha ive never used this thing, this is pretty badass
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> braden_: its good to get help man
[23:27] <_2> yuch.   howto turn history expansion off ?
[23:27] <braden_> so is that what this is for
[23:28] <braden_> oh cool
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> _2: so you dont want a history file?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> _2: the history file is also used when you press up cursor like a DosKey
[23:29] <_2> ActionParsnip i didn't say that.  i like uparrow histry just fine.  i just don't like   echo " !"   expanding to anything that i have done with a " in it.
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> _2: dont type that command then i guess]
[23:30] <_2> ;/   or recompile bash again.
[23:30] <_2> i already made it fully posix compliant,   now i could turn this "feature" bug off.
[23:32] <_2> i use the shell way too much for that to get in my way.    but it's odd that i haven't found it until now.     probably overlooked the cause of syntax errors in the past...
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> _2: alias it to do nothing in .bashrc
[23:35] <_2> ActionParsnip doesn't help,
[23:36] <_2> the shell is expanding it,  it's not being called as a command.  an alias of function would work there   but it's just a shell "special" char
[23:36] <filo1234> someone know repos for VB on feisty?
[23:37] <_2> echo "boo !"  <<< the only thing that one could alias there is the "echo" command.
[23:37] <NickPresta> filo1234, VB? Visual Basic?
[23:38] <filo1234> virtualbox
[23:38] <NickPresta> filo1234, hehe.
[23:38] <NickPresta> !virtualbox | filo1234
[23:38] <_2> i supose if i link null to bash_history it would at least error out rather than running arbatrarry code
[23:43] <filo1234> NickPresta:  thank you
[23:44] <_2> ah ha!   set +H
[23:44]  * _2 puts that in his /etc/profile
[23:45] <diceman> hello here
[23:46]  * _2 considers it a safer shell now.
[23:50] <jhutchins_wk> Oh, just go all selinux on it.
[23:53] <katoda> hi all
[23:54] <katoda> I'm using Dapper 6.06 LTS (not possible to update)
[23:54] <katoda> how can I add my own entries to media:/?
[23:54] <katoda> (I have an entry in /etc/fstab, but when I try to enter media:/hdd i get malformed URL error)
[23:56] <katoda> ./dev/hdd is mounted to /media/cdrom1, when I access /media/cdrom1 with konqueror I can browse my DVD
[23:59] <diceman> joomla!