[10:03] <Q-FUNK> how do we solve the nsc+geode situation on Hardy?
[10:04] <Q-FUNK> I have yet another user confirming that the only way to get this to work on LTSP is to purge the transitional package that contains the symbolic links between geode_drv.so and amd_drv.so
[10:09] <Q-FUNK> this essentialy requires backporting what I have in my PPA for xserver-xorg-core, -geode and -nsc
[11:13] <sebner> heya guys. A nvidia update (2.6.26 support) planned in the near future?
[11:17] <Q-FUNK> is 2.6.26 even out yet?
[11:17] <Q-FUNK> last night, it was still RC
[11:18] <sebner> Q-FUNK: so we wait until the final kernel is out?
[11:35] <tseliot> sebner: an update for the driver in Intrepid or in Hardy?
[11:36] <sebner> tseliot: intrepid. since the new kernel 2.6.26(rc) is in intrepid only ;)
[11:37] <tseliot> sebner: I'm working on it
[11:37] <tseliot> we'll have 4 flavours for the NVIDIA driver
[11:37] <tseliot> and the lrm will be removed
[11:38] <sebner> tseliot: great. only the newest has 2.6.26 support I heard. any estimated time?
[11:39] <tseliot> sebner: I've got patches for the other flavours for kernel 2.6.26. I have to make sure that the upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid doesn't cause problems, therefore I'll have to test the new packages carefully
[11:39] <sebner> tseliot: I see. Thanks for the info =)
[11:39] <tseliot> the packages, apart from the debian/control files are complete
[11:41] <sebner> tseliot: Ah cool, you are alberto milone. Didn't know that =) Also used envy. great work!
[11:42] <tseliot> yes, it's me ;)
[20:17] <bryce> tjaalton: btw DebianImportFreeze is coming up 1 week from now
[20:44] <tjaalton> bryce: hi! yes I noticed. that only means more manual labor for us :)
[20:48] <tjaalton> bryce: btw, I pushed the xorg-server merge yesterday. I dropped some patches that we had for no apparent reason, but we can dissect those again before we upload
[20:48] <bryce> tjaalton: excellent
[20:48] <bryce> tjaalton: fortunately we're all caught up with merges except for xorg and xorg-server
[20:48] <bryce> oh and a new -intel
[20:48] <tjaalton> yeah
[20:49] <bryce> do we need to do anything special with -i810 anymore?  e.g. drop something from the archive...?
[20:49] <tjaalton> drop it...
[20:49] <tjaalton> the merge is a tad easier after that
[20:49] <bryce> how do we go about dropping it?
[20:50] <tjaalton> there should be no reason to keep it any more
[20:50] <bryce> is there such a thing as a de-MIR?
[20:50] <pwnguin> heh
[20:50] <tjaalton> file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-archive
[20:50] <bryce> ok
[20:50] <tjaalton> "remove from the archive"
[20:50] <tjaalton> etc
[20:50] <tjaalton> (laggy gprs shite)
[20:51]  * bryce files
[20:52] <bryce> btw, do we need to do the same for -amd now that -geode is present?
[20:52] <tjaalton> oh man, this is cool.. listening to the GER-POR from the radio, irc'ing with the laptop and enjoying the bright evening with a carlsberg :P
[20:52] <tjaalton> *match
[20:53] <tjaalton> bryce: hum, I'm not sure, q-funk should know better
[20:53] <bryce> ok
[20:53] <bryce> what's GER-POR?
[20:53] <pwnguin> german ... 
[20:53] <tjaalton> sorry, germany vs. portugal... soccer match :)
[20:54] <pwnguin> GOAAAAL
[20:54] <tjaalton> football for us europeans
[20:54] <tjaalton> ssssh, not yet
[20:54] <tjaalton> actually, it's 2-1
[20:55] <pwnguin> so what is the official deal with nvidia on intrepid?
[20:58] <bryce> ahh
[20:59] <bryce> pwnguin: hmm?
[20:59] <tjaalton> pwnguin: it's split from lrm, and held in separate packages
[20:59] <tjaalton> DKSM
[20:59] <tjaalton> ftw
[20:59] <tjaalton> uh
[20:59] <tjaalton> DKSM..
[20:59] <tjaalton> wtf
[21:00] <tjaalton> my eyes hurt me
[21:00] <tjaalton> was it DKMS?? :)
[21:00] <pwnguin> sound right
[21:01] <pwnguin> dell kernel module system
[21:01] <tseliot> it's DKMS
[21:01] <tseliot> pwnguin: we have 4 flavours for NVIDIA
[21:02] <tseliot> and I'm working on them
[21:02] <tseliot> I have contacted BenC since none of them builds
[21:02] <pwnguin> did we unwrap modprobe?
[21:02] <bryce> tjaalton: btw both OOo and Xubuntu are seeing major libxcb-related problems
[21:02] <bryce> tjaalton: I upstreamed the former; the latter was already upstreamed but it appears the fix for it was incomplete
[21:03] <bryce> tjaalton: so I'm having them do some re-testing, and then will re-upstream if appropriate
[21:03] <tseliot> pwnguin: I mean, because the kernel is Xen-enabled. BenC will work on that.
[21:03] <tseliot> pwnguin: do you refer to lrm-video?
[21:03] <pwnguin> Amaranth has a patch
[21:04] <bryce> lp: #87947, lp #185311, fdo: 16420
[21:04] <tseliot> pwnguin: for what? If it's for Xen, those patches don't work
[21:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 185311 in libxcb "hardy, locking assertion failure, xorg/libsdl" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185311
[21:05] <tjaalton> tseliot: amaranth had a patch for it.. 
[21:06] <tjaalton> 03:59 #ubuntu-devel: < Amaranth> tjaalton: with http://www.realistanew.com/random/xen.patch  the 173.14.09 nvidia module will build against the 2.6.26-1  kernel
[21:06] <pwnguin> tseliot: if theres a bug somewhere, maybe that will be faster than re-explaining evreything to me
[21:07] <tjaalton> bryce: ok. Maybe try the handoff-patches from March (on xcb-list)
[21:07] <tseliot> pwnguin: ok, I'll try it now
[21:07] <tjaalton> don't know if they help or not..
[21:08] <tjaalton> bryce: with those, it should never fail on locking
[21:08] <pwnguin> sh: /sbin/lrm-video: not found
[21:08] <pwnguin> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[21:08] <bryce> tjaalton: yeah I worked on patching those in yesterday, but they don't apply to our released version, and aren't in git
[21:08] <bryce> (afaik)
[21:09] <tjaalton> duh
[21:09] <bryce> I'll see if calc can validate the debian patch, and if not will see about hammering those patches into libxcb or something
[21:10] <tjaalton> k, upstream should wake up eventually
[21:11] <tjaalton> those patches should be merged
[21:11] <tjaalton> hmm
[21:11] <tjaalton> there's a tv next door, so maybe I'll go there to see the rest of the match..
[21:12] <tseliot> pwnguin: it's the same patch I had. Sorry but it doesn't work. The patch works in Hardy but it doesn't in Intrepid
[21:12] <tjaalton> which means that I'll be offline for some time ;)
[21:12] <tjaalton> see you ->
[21:15] <bryce> cya tjaalton
[22:02] <tjaalton> ok, back again :)
[22:02] <bryce> how'd your team do?
[22:04] <tjaalton> germany won 3-2, but I didn't really have a favourite
[22:08] <tjaalton> but I did bet that germany would win the tournament, so..
[22:39] <tjaalton> hm, time to go to bed. have a nice Midsummer ;) 
[23:26] <pwnguin> bryce: how would you describe your involvement in inkscape
[23:26] <pwnguin> ?
[23:28] <pwnguin> Developer?
[23:28] <pwnguin> founder?
[23:46] <bryce> pwnguin: founder
[23:47] <bryce> pwnguin: I also am fairly involved in organizing releases and qa activities.  I haven't really done much development since joining canonical.