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Jerenhttp://img.joshspadd.com/screen1.jpg00:00
Jeren^ The screenshot, as requested00:01
JerenI wanted Webmin so I could have some kind of graphical interface to work with for the system. It worked fine on 7.1000:02
cody-somervilleIf you create a new account, is it all messed up like this too?00:03
JerenI haven't tried.00:05
JerenI only know how to make new accounts via the Users option in the menu00:05
JerenAnd I have a couple minutes before my coworker locks up the office...so... I'm assuming this won't be fixed soon?00:05
cody-somervilleJeren, I wouldn't want to rush anything.00:05
cody-somervilleJeren, However please come back soon and we can fix your issue.00:06
JerenWell, my next day in the office is Monday... and we'll see how everyone's patience is this week <.<00:06
JerenThanks for your help.00:06
cody-somervilleOh.00:07
cody-somervilleWait00:07
cody-somervilleIs this going to be used by other people?00:07
JerenNot the desktop, no.00:07
cody-somervilleOh, okay.00:07
JerenBut I am using the box for some web development that I'm supposed to have done soon00:07
JerenHence the Apache/PHP/MySQL00:08
cody-somervilleIf that was the case and you were in a crunch, I'd tell you to setup ssh and I'd do it for you.00:08
JerenNah, its alright.00:08
* cody-somerville nods.00:08
JerenProbably wouldn't have the time to do that anyways... :P00:08
JerenBut thanks again. I'll be back soon.00:08
cody-somerville*waves*00:08
MortisD:00:23
MortisTheSheep: I am still having problems with my xubuntu/ubuntu installs.00:24
cody-somervilleMortis, whats your problem?00:24
MortisAnytime I try to install Ubuntu00:25
MortisIt loads the splash screen and goes to BusyBox00:25
MortisI'm doing it natively00:25
MortisWith version 8.04. Someone told me to try Gutsy and then update to Hardy00:26
MortisMeh00:32
cody-somervilleMortis, One second please.00:32
cody-somervilleMortis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76893300:33
MortisCheers00:36
MortisI'll try this00:36
MortisUgh00:38
MortisI wish I could read this as I am booting up Ubuntu00:38
Mortisheh00:38
zoredacheyou could print it maybe?00:38
MortisNo printer00:40
Mortisheh00:40
MortisAgh. This didn't help at all :-/00:40
MortisI've done what the guy has been saying to do.00:41
MortisMost of it is him asking for error logs00:41
MortisBut, he said it's a general error with 8.04 that is beyond his domain.00:41
cody-somervilleWell, I'd like to see what the error messages are.00:41
MortisOkay.00:41
MortisI'll try.00:41
MortisLet me write this stuff down first.00:42
MortisI'll be back in a minute.00:44
greg__hi00:51
cody-somervilleHi00:51
greg__there anyway to get evga indtube tuner to work?00:52
cathartiaHow do I lock my screen?00:52
lc2sec00:54
lc2shit, xubuntu doesn't use xscreensaver?00:54
cathartiaI used to have a screensaver - now it doesn't come up00:54
cathartiaI used to be able to lock my screen with ctrl-alt-delete but now it doesn't work00:55
lc2oh.00:55
lc2you can create a shortcut to gnome-screensaver-command --lock00:56
lc2i suppose00:56
lc2except here, it doesn't seem to think that the screensaver daemon is running00:57
cathartia** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.00:57
MortisI'm back with errors!00:57
MortisOk. So, these came up numerous times in the casper.log00:57
Mortisstdin: I/O error00:58
Mortisinit: /init: 1: cannot open /dev/sdc: No medium found00:58
MortisThat error came up numerous times, but sdc was different each time. It came up as sdd, sdc, sde, sdf, plenty of times00:59
lc2wow what00:59
cody-somervilleIt looks like it can't detect your drive.00:59
MortisGosh darnit...01:00
MortisIs it because my drive is NTFS?01:00
cody-somervilleI'm thinking it can't find your cd-rom drive01:00
cody-somervillebut I could be wrong01:00
MortisOh.01:00
MortisWell the thing is, it opens perfectly fine in windows. The autorun01:00
MortisBut that's probably completely unrelated to installing natively.01:01
cody-somervilleTry installing with wubi01:01
MortisI did. I don't want to do it again. It limited me to 6 gigs of space...for all of linux01:01
MortisI couldn't partition it either.01:01
cody-somervilleThey may have updated that01:01
cody-somervilleand you can still access ntfs from within it01:01
MortisIt was just yesterday :-/01:01
cody-somervilleso you get the rest of your drive01:01
cody-somervillebut be warned that if you shutdown windows incorrectly then Linux won't boot because the ntfs drive will be marked as dirty, lol01:02
MortisWell, if I do install thru Wubi again, I'll need your help partitioning my drive so I have at least 30 gigs for Linux.01:02
MortisMaybe 25. I have 55 gigs free on my D: drive, so.01:02
cody-somervilleMortis, I doubt you'll need my help01:03
MortisI don't know01:03
cody-somervilleMortis, you'll just resize your windows partition and create an ext3 partition with the new empty space01:03
cody-somervilleIt is basically a click, drag, click click click operation :)01:03
MortisThat's where you're wrong, I will. XD01:03
MortisThis is my first time talking about partitioning or using Linux01:03
MortisSO. I'm quiet uninformed when it comes to this.01:03
cody-somervilleOk01:04
MortisWhen I had installed through wubi before, I was told that it wasn't even running Linux as an OS.01:04
cody-somervilleI hope you don't lose any of your data01:04
cody-somervilleThats not true01:04
MortisIt was more like an App, and that it didn't really have any physical space on my drive01:04
cody-somervilleNo, incorrect.01:04
cody-somervilleHave you ever heard of a swap file?01:04
MortisNope.01:04
cody-somervilleOkay01:04
cody-somervilleWell, basically, it is just creating one big special file on your windows hard drive to store linux01:05
cody-somervilleBut you're still really running linux when you boot into it01:05
MortisThat's what I thought. Cause when I went to look for my linux folder, it wasn't there.01:05
MortisIt was just a bunch of unrecognizable files01:05
MortisAnyways, I'm pretty sure I'll need help partitioning.01:05
lc2Mortis: when you install wubi, you *aren't partitioning*01:05
lc2you're creating a giant file on your NTFS disk01:06
MortisWell then I don't want to do that, because then I can't change the size of space it uses.01:06
lc2there is nothing to go wrong01:06
cody-somervilleaestetix, `23AZ2301:06
lc2and yes, you can change the amount of space it uses, at installation01:06
shane__any one know if we have an equivalent to the app Folder Lock01:06
MortisIt never asked before :-/01:06
lc2but it's not "partionining" as such01:06
MortisI'll try this again.01:06
lc2Mortis: it does ask01:06
MortisThe highest I can go is 30 gigs. :-/01:07
MortisWhat if I want to go higher than that?01:07
cody-somervilleMortis, You can create a real linux partition if you want01:07
MortisWhich is what I want to do.01:07
MortisI don't know why, but I really don't like the idea of Wubi.01:07
cody-somervilleAnd for good reason :)01:08
MortisI guess it's just me wanting to learn more about partitioning and Linux01:08
MortisSo I don't get stuck in this "lulz noob" stage with Wubi.01:08
MortisBy just running everything like windows.01:08
MortisWell, not like windows01:08
Mortisbut01:08
MortisI feel like I'm not learning anything by using a windows installer for a completely different OS.01:09
lc2Mortis: seems to me that using it is more important than installing it01:09
lc2you know?01:09
MortisWell yes, but my point is, I want to learn something from this instead of taking the easy way out01:09
MortisI want to learn about partitioning and codes using Linux01:10
MortisThat came out wrong.01:10
lc2Mortis: i think that's overrated, tbh01:10
MortisEh. Either way, I'd much rather have a partition for Linux than have a swap file01:11
lc2k.01:11
MortisIf worst comes to worst, I'll have to resort to Wubi.01:11
lc2or another distro01:11
MortisYes, but I really don't like the looks of any of the other ones.01:11
zoredacheMortis: you could play around inside vmware... it will give you closer to a 'real-world' experience then wubi01:12
MortisBWAHHAHA01:12
MortisA blessing! More blank CDs!01:12
lc2Mortis: win01:12
lc2Mortis: have you thought about installing a 32-bit version?01:12
MortisThat's the version I have right now.01:12
MortisThe only 64bit version of anything I have tried to install is Xubuntu.01:13
cody-somervilleMortis, did your error log look like this?:01:13
cody-somervillehttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/10172960/casper.log01:13
MortisPretty much.01:13
MortisWait, no.01:13
MortisI didn't have the fda: No such devices found error01:14
MortisMine said "sdc: No medium found"01:14
MortisAnd mine didn't have stdin: error 001:14
MortisNevermind, no mine looked nothing like that.01:14
Mortislol01:14
MortisI'm going to try Gutsy, and see if I can update to hardy, let alone get Gutsy installed.01:15
cody-somervillethe numbers and letter for the files might be different01:15
lc2Mortis: you mentioned an error with stdin though01:15
cody-somervillebut the rest is the same, right?01:15
MortisYes01:16
MortisNo01:16
MortisI didn't have chroot errors01:16
lc2Mortis: the chroot errors are related to the sort of problem you have01:17
MortisMy stdin error was stdin: I/O error01:17
MortisWhat is the diagnosis for that problem then?01:17
MortisBad drive?01:17
lc2ask that guy --->01:18
cody-somervilleMortis, Are you using the live cd or alternative?01:18
Mortislivecd01:18
MortisThe alternative doesn't mount01:18
Mortisand it says it can't find the 'release' file.01:18
MortisIt gets to the installation thugh, at least.01:19
MortisWell, I have 50 CDs now. I'm going to try and install Gutsy, then update to Hardy.01:21
MortisThis is only going to work through trial and error.01:21
Mortis8-B01:21
lc2Mortis: if they're a different brand of CD, try burning the alternative install again01:21
lc2it could just be crappy cds01:22
cody-somervilleMortis, This is Hardy you're attempting to install thus far?01:22
jokoonHello01:23
cody-somervilleHi01:23
jokoonbluetooth not working in xubuntu, what can I do ?01:24
cody-somervilleOne second01:25
MortisYes Cody.01:25
MortisAlso, I was using Memorex CDs before. I'm about to use Sony now.01:25
cody-somervillejokoon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup01:25
cody-somervilleMortis, I don't think the installer is correctly detecting your cd-rom drive01:25
MortisWhat can I do about it?01:25
cody-somervilleplease join #ubuntu-installer01:26
MortisOkay, I'm in it.01:26
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nubuntuhey guys wassup 2nite.  having a little prob with google earth.  installed it on this machine with seemingly no prob, but when it started up dialog box suggested that graphics card needed new driver, so i went thru the process of finding my card (tnt2 legacy), and then installed the legacy driver from 'add-remove', followed by sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' as per instruction.  but now earth...06:14
nubuntu...crashes on startup, and seemingly some other things as well... any ideas?06:14
colinlHi11:32
colinlI'm getting stupid popups when plugging in USB removables devices11:32
colinl"org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-removable, no <-- (action, result)"11:32
colinlfrom what I gathered it comes from PolicyKit11:32
colinlanyone else has that?11:33
hyppiaswhich mobile phone brands  have good linux support ?13:54
colinlhyppias: I've had success with Sony ericcson and motorola13:55
colinlI'd guess Nokia, too, but didn't try any since ages13:55
hyppiascolinl; NOKIA IS BAAAAAD: GNOKII IS RATHER LIMITED, AND NOKIA ITSELF DOES NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR LINUX13:55
hyppiasoops..sorry13:56
colinl^^13:58
colinlhyppias: sony ericcson doesn't either (provide support), but they stick to standards so it works13:58
colinl(phone as modem works, mass storage works)13:59
colinlI don't use other features like PIM13:59
hyppiasI tried Gnokii on Nokia, but it's rather limited...14:00
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excalibashello, i did a fresh install of xubuntu hardy, and i a am having some problems mounting partitions, xubuntu cant mount16:00
excalibasups16:00
excalibasit doesnt mount automatic the outher partitions on the hd16:01
excalibasand if i put a usb hd it mounts but cant unmount (eject)16:01
excalibasis there a easy way to fix this please?16:02
vinnlexcalibas, you could try to check if a bug is reported at bugs.ubuntu.com and perhaps if there's a workaround in the comments16:02
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vinnlBut I wouldn't know a solution :(16:02
excalibasor mabie a hard one.... if someone can point me any direction would be great16:03
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excalibasvinnl: will see that16:03
excalibasvinnl: i dont really know what i should look for16:04
vinnlexcalibas, me neither, really. A combination of "mount", "xubuntu" and USB perhaps16:05
excalibasvinnl: and about the automatic mounting of internal paritions? i should use fstab?16:10
vinnlexcalibas, I think so, but I know nothing about that...16:10
excalibasok, thanks16:11
glitsj16excalibas: yes, use fstab for automount16:26
glitsj16if you need any assistance doing that, i'll be back in 5 minutes, pm me16:28
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AlexCONRADhi, I'm trying to autostart an application using ~/.config/autostart/myapp.desktop. In this file, I've set a "Path=/path/to/run/in/" line, but it doesn't seem to take this in account. Ideas?17:47
Zelutis there an official way of removing the xubuntu-desktop meta package?  I just tried and it didn't pull out anything it added.17:48
RiottaZelut17:51
Riottait's my favourite question17:51
Riotta^^17:52
TheSheepZelut: try apt-get autoremove17:52
Zelutnothing listed..17:52
Zeluti just used debfoster to manually clean it out, but shouldn't the removal of the meta package also remove its contents?17:52
RiottaZelut: what you want to stay ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop ?17:53
TheSheepZelut: only using autoremove17:53
ZelutRiotta: I just installed it parallel to ubuntu-desktop to take a look and then tried removing when I was done.17:53
TheSheepZelut: you don't want to be forced to keep everything from xubuntu, right? you want to be able to uninstall gnumeric, for example17:53
ZelutTheSheep: right. everything xubuntu-desktop added it should also remove, but its not listing anything when I do that other than the meta package itself.17:54
Riottahere Zelut: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21441/17:54
Riottathis command solve your problem17:54
TheSheepZelut: apt-get and synpatic keep track of which packages were installed manually and which were pulled in as dependencies. apt-get autoremove will remove the automatically pulled packages that no longer have their depndee17:54
Riottait's one big command17:54
TheSheepZelut: of course it all breaks in flames if you use aptitude17:55
ZelutI installed with aptitude which should auto-add and auto-remove (aptitude includes the autoremove option), but nothing was removed.17:55
TheSheepZelut: jsut don't use aptitude17:55
TheSheepjust17:55
Riottasee link I gaved to you17:55
hologaved17:56
holothat was funny17:56
holois like double past17:56
holoso much in the past, that one can hardly remember17:56
TheSheepholo: English is evolving17:56
Zelutaptitude remove works for other meta packages so why not xubuntu-desktop?17:56
Riottaholo: stop trolling :d it's not my native language and I wanna be helpful17:57
holoI know, but it's still funny17:57
TheSheepZelut: no idea, wanna fill a bug?17:57
Riottaokay :d17:57
RiottaZelut: if you installed ubuntu-desktop with aptitude you should only type remove command to remove whole packages17:58
Riottalike sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop17:58
Riottaand it should remove all packages from this metapackage17:59
ZelutRiotta: that's what I'm saying.  Its not working with either method.18:00
Zeluthttp://pastebin.ca/105121618:00
Zelutexample of installing with apt-get, removing and using autoremove.  Nothing is removed.18:00
Riottathen do this manually: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21441/18:00
Riottait's clean and safe command18:00
ZelutI understand the differences in apt-get and aptitude regarding auto-removal, etc.  What I'm wondering is if the package is broken so removal doesn't work18:01
RiottaI don't think so18:01
RiottaI had few time broken packages and it always removed it18:02
Riottait's not RPM, where package database corrupt often18:02
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Riottatechnically you should be able to remove even broken package18:03
Zelutso we don't have any answer to why I might need to remove each package individually?  I've tried with aptitude and apt-get, neither will remove the full contents.18:03
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holoZelut, you can make a script that check every depend of a package to remove and remove not only the package, but also the depends18:05
holoand I assure it doesn't take more than some minutes18:06
djouallahstupid question, where to find audio channel volume18:26
djouallahok fine find it ;)18:28
holoI have a bulgarian friend that when she wants to say a verb in the past, uses the present, though when wants to say in the present uses past... I'm still yet to found out why18:34
TheSheep!ot | holo18:41
ubottuholo: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!18:41
holoThe channel wasn't active anyway18:41
holo:]18:41
excalibashow can i disable the login on xubuntu? (no pasword)18:42
TheSheepexcalibas: go to settings->login window and enable automatic login18:43
djouallahexcalibas, setting login manager18:43
excalibasThanks :D18:44
excalibasups, just lost my xfce4-pannel18:48
excalibasgot it18:50
slow-motionhi19:44
peter77I installed the kubuntu desktop by apt-get, I have tried aptitude remove and apt-get autoremove but both have just moved the meta package instead of the entire desktop20:03
TheSheeppeter77: how did you try both?20:11
Stroganoffpeter77: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome20:17
peter77Stroganoff, thanx, done :-)20:17
peter77pure xfce now20:18
peter77and fluxbox20:18
Stroganoffn120:18
slow-motionn821:56
blondiehow do you create a script to execute a command?22:05
TheSheepblondie: you write that command in a text file, and make the file executable22:08
blondieTheSheep, how do you make it executable?22:08
TheSheepblondie: that is, you add the 'execute' permission, you can do it by right-clicking, selecting properties and the the last tab22:09
TheSheepblondie: got it?22:11
blondiei did it using chmod a+x (filename) and the executable checkbox is checked on the Permissions tab but it still won't run22:11
TheSheepblondie: how do you run it?22:12
glitsj16blondie: did you add the she-bang as first line in your script ?22:12
TheSheepglitsj16: bash in the default when there is no hashbang22:13
glitsj16TheSheep: true, i don't know what kind of script blondie has made22:13
blondieglitsj16: no, what's that mean?  !?22:13
TheSheepblondie: you can specify what program to run it with by typing '#!path-to-theprogram' as the first line, for example #!/bin/bash22:14
blondiei'm trying to execute a command during boot after all other services have loaded (the very last thing)22:14
glitsj16blondie: each script is interpreted, the first line i.e. #!/bin/bash is a bash script, #!/usr/bin/perl is a perl script .. the system need to know what's in there, that's the genral idea22:15
TheSheepblondie: then just add that command to the /etc/rc.local file, before the 'exit'22:15
TheSheepblondie: be aware that it gets executed with root priviledges though22:15
blondieTheSheep: i put it in /etc/rc.local/rc.522:15
blondieTheSheep: actually, i put a symbolic link to /home/scripts/<scriptname>22:16
TheSheepblondie: rc.local is supposed to be a file22:16
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blondieIt says 'bad interpreter' when I run it from the command line with !#<command>22:33
glitsj16blondie: could you show the first line here please ?22:33
glitsj16blondie: it is #! instead of !#, could be a typo you made here, double-check22:34
blondie!#xm start linux22:34
ubottuFactoid xm start linux not found22:34
blondieI put the executable text file directly instead of a symbolic link FYI22:35
glitsj16blondie: is xm the command you want to run ?22:35
blondiexm22:35
glitsj16and start linux are it's parameters ?22:35
blondieglitsj16: yes, and it works from the command line22:35
blondieand even when run from the same directory as the text file22:36
blondieperhaps BASH is not the right thing?22:36
glitsj16blondie: what's the location of xm ? /usr/bin or something else ? it needs that path as well22:36
blondienot sure, how do i find it?22:36
glitsj16blondie: could be, i'm not familiar with the command xm22:36
glitsj16"locate xm" from terminal will tell you that22:37
blondielocate command not found22:37
blondieoops, it's in /usr/sbin22:37
glitsj16blondie: and it is in a separate file on its own, not in one of those TheSheep mentioned ?22:38
glitsj16blondie: if it is, try #!/bin/sh as first line and in your script point to /usr/sbin/xm start linux to run it22:40
blondieI dont' have a file, I have rc.d and in that i have a folder rc5.d and i put the batch file in there22:40
glitsj16blondie: ok, add the path to it in that case, /usr/sbin/xm linux start22:41
blondieI did and it still doesn't run, but it no longer gives an error either22:42
blondieand, mind you, i'm just typing ./StartVM for now22:42
blondieoh, so don't use #!  ???22:43
blondiebetter22:43
blondieit ran manually, so if i restart the system will /etc/rc.d/rc4.d.StartVM execute automatically at boot22:44
blondie?22:44
glitsj16blondie: i'm confused :) if it is a separate file you need the #!/bin/sh (that will tell the system to run it via shell)22:44
glitsj16blondie: is that the only line that is in there ? the xm linux start bit ?22:45
blondieglitsj16: when i put the she-bang in front and entered ./StartVM it didnt' run and gave no error22:45
blondiewhen i removed the she-bang it ran22:45
blondiethe entire contents of /etc/rc.d/rc5/StartVM are /usr/sbin/xm start linux22:46
blondiei guess just try it?  or do you think it won't work without she-bang?22:47
blondieoh, btw, rc5.d is a directory, not a file22:47
glitsj16blondie: ok, i still think you need the #!/bin/sh as first and only line at the top of the file StartVM22:47
glitsj16blondie: something like this:22:48
blondieglitsj16: does it concern you that nothing happens when you run it from the command line using ./StartVM22:48
blondie?22:48
jokoonI beg you. I have a ibook G4, and my touchpad is going insane, making my cursor shaking like crazy, gimme some simple way to shut it down, even some config file to edit22:48
jokoonor some soft22:48
jokoon(and a way to mount a partition that was mounted when I was under ubuntu, and how make my bluetooth work like in ubuntu)22:49
glitsj16blondie: if run in terminal yes it will work, because the terminal is in fact a shell, if run from that rc5 dir it needs it, but then ypou must start /usr/sbin/xm start linux on the next line, after #!/bin/sh22:50
blondieglitsj16: ahhh, so #!/bin/sh on line 1 and /usr/sbin/xm start linux on the second line22:51
glitsj16blondie: correct22:51
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Genelyk:D23:16
blondieglitsj16: still not working  :(23:17
glitsj16blondie: sorry; was at another channel, can i pm you ?23:19
blondieit totally works from the command line ./StartVM, but not during boot23:19
blondieOK23:19

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