[00:00] http://img.joshspadd.com/screen1.jpg [00:01] ^ The screenshot, as requested [00:02] I wanted Webmin so I could have some kind of graphical interface to work with for the system. It worked fine on 7.10 [00:03] If you create a new account, is it all messed up like this too? [00:05] I haven't tried. [00:05] I only know how to make new accounts via the Users option in the menu [00:05] And I have a couple minutes before my coworker locks up the office...so... I'm assuming this won't be fixed soon? [00:05] Jeren, I wouldn't want to rush anything. [00:06] Jeren, However please come back soon and we can fix your issue. [00:06] Well, my next day in the office is Monday... and we'll see how everyone's patience is this week <.< [00:06] Thanks for your help. [00:07] Oh. [00:07] Wait [00:07] Is this going to be used by other people? [00:07] Not the desktop, no. [00:07] Oh, okay. [00:07] But I am using the box for some web development that I'm supposed to have done soon [00:08] Hence the Apache/PHP/MySQL [00:08] If that was the case and you were in a crunch, I'd tell you to setup ssh and I'd do it for you. [00:08] Nah, its alright. [00:08] * cody-somerville nods. [00:08] Probably wouldn't have the time to do that anyways... :P [00:08] But thanks again. I'll be back soon. [00:08] *waves* [00:23] D: [00:24] TheSheep: I am still having problems with my xubuntu/ubuntu installs. [00:24] Mortis, whats your problem? [00:25] Anytime I try to install Ubuntu [00:25] It loads the splash screen and goes to BusyBox [00:25] I'm doing it natively [00:26] With version 8.04. Someone told me to try Gutsy and then update to Hardy [00:32] Meh [00:32] Mortis, One second please. [00:33] Mortis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768933 [00:36] Cheers [00:36] I'll try this [00:38] Ugh [00:38] I wish I could read this as I am booting up Ubuntu [00:38] heh [00:38] you could print it maybe? [00:40] No printer [00:40] heh [00:40] Agh. This didn't help at all :-/ [00:41] I've done what the guy has been saying to do. [00:41] Most of it is him asking for error logs [00:41] But, he said it's a general error with 8.04 that is beyond his domain. [00:41] Well, I'd like to see what the error messages are. [00:41] Okay. [00:41] I'll try. [00:42] Let me write this stuff down first. [00:44] I'll be back in a minute. [00:51] hi [00:51] Hi [00:52] there anyway to get evga indtube tuner to work? [00:52] How do I lock my screen? [00:54] sec [00:54] shit, xubuntu doesn't use xscreensaver? [00:54] I used to have a screensaver - now it doesn't come up [00:55] I used to be able to lock my screen with ctrl-alt-delete but now it doesn't work [00:55] oh. [00:56] you can create a shortcut to gnome-screensaver-command --lock [00:56] i suppose [00:57] except here, it doesn't seem to think that the screensaver daemon is running [00:57] ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed. [00:57] I'm back with errors! [00:57] Ok. So, these came up numerous times in the casper.log [00:58] stdin: I/O error [00:58] init: /init: 1: cannot open /dev/sdc: No medium found [00:59] That error came up numerous times, but sdc was different each time. It came up as sdd, sdc, sde, sdf, plenty of times [00:59] wow what [00:59] It looks like it can't detect your drive. [01:00] Gosh darnit... [01:00] Is it because my drive is NTFS? [01:00] I'm thinking it can't find your cd-rom drive [01:00] but I could be wrong [01:00] Oh. [01:00] Well the thing is, it opens perfectly fine in windows. The autorun [01:01] But that's probably completely unrelated to installing natively. [01:01] Try installing with wubi [01:01] I did. I don't want to do it again. It limited me to 6 gigs of space...for all of linux [01:01] I couldn't partition it either. [01:01] They may have updated that [01:01] and you can still access ntfs from within it [01:01] It was just yesterday :-/ [01:01] so you get the rest of your drive [01:02] but be warned that if you shutdown windows incorrectly then Linux won't boot because the ntfs drive will be marked as dirty, lol [01:02] Well, if I do install thru Wubi again, I'll need your help partitioning my drive so I have at least 30 gigs for Linux. [01:02] Maybe 25. I have 55 gigs free on my D: drive, so. [01:03] Mortis, I doubt you'll need my help [01:03] I don't know [01:03] Mortis, you'll just resize your windows partition and create an ext3 partition with the new empty space [01:03] It is basically a click, drag, click click click operation :) [01:03] That's where you're wrong, I will. XD [01:03] This is my first time talking about partitioning or using Linux [01:03] SO. I'm quiet uninformed when it comes to this. [01:04] Ok [01:04] When I had installed through wubi before, I was told that it wasn't even running Linux as an OS. [01:04] I hope you don't lose any of your data [01:04] Thats not true [01:04] It was more like an App, and that it didn't really have any physical space on my drive [01:04] No, incorrect. [01:04] Have you ever heard of a swap file? [01:04] Nope. [01:04] Okay [01:05] Well, basically, it is just creating one big special file on your windows hard drive to store linux [01:05] But you're still really running linux when you boot into it [01:05] That's what I thought. Cause when I went to look for my linux folder, it wasn't there. [01:05] It was just a bunch of unrecognizable files [01:05] Anyways, I'm pretty sure I'll need help partitioning. [01:05] Mortis: when you install wubi, you *aren't partitioning* [01:06] you're creating a giant file on your NTFS disk [01:06] Well then I don't want to do that, because then I can't change the size of space it uses. [01:06] there is nothing to go wrong [01:06] aestetix, `23AZ23 [01:06] and yes, you can change the amount of space it uses, at installation [01:06] any one know if we have an equivalent to the app Folder Lock [01:06] It never asked before :-/ [01:06] but it's not "partionining" as such [01:06] I'll try this again. [01:06] Mortis: it does ask [01:07] The highest I can go is 30 gigs. :-/ [01:07] What if I want to go higher than that? [01:07] Mortis, You can create a real linux partition if you want [01:07] Which is what I want to do. [01:07] I don't know why, but I really don't like the idea of Wubi. [01:08] And for good reason :) [01:08] I guess it's just me wanting to learn more about partitioning and Linux [01:08] So I don't get stuck in this "lulz noob" stage with Wubi. [01:08] By just running everything like windows. [01:08] Well, not like windows [01:08] but [01:09] I feel like I'm not learning anything by using a windows installer for a completely different OS. [01:09] Mortis: seems to me that using it is more important than installing it [01:09] you know? [01:09] Well yes, but my point is, I want to learn something from this instead of taking the easy way out [01:10] I want to learn about partitioning and codes using Linux [01:10] That came out wrong. [01:10] Mortis: i think that's overrated, tbh [01:11] Eh. Either way, I'd much rather have a partition for Linux than have a swap file [01:11] k. [01:11] If worst comes to worst, I'll have to resort to Wubi. [01:11] or another distro [01:11] Yes, but I really don't like the looks of any of the other ones. [01:12] Mortis: you could play around inside vmware... it will give you closer to a 'real-world' experience then wubi [01:12] BWAHHAHA [01:12] A blessing! More blank CDs! [01:12] Mortis: win [01:12] Mortis: have you thought about installing a 32-bit version? [01:12] That's the version I have right now. [01:13] The only 64bit version of anything I have tried to install is Xubuntu. [01:13] Mortis, did your error log look like this?: [01:13] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10172960/casper.log [01:13] Pretty much. [01:13] Wait, no. [01:14] I didn't have the fda: No such devices found error [01:14] Mine said "sdc: No medium found" [01:14] And mine didn't have stdin: error 0 [01:14] Nevermind, no mine looked nothing like that. [01:14] lol [01:15] I'm going to try Gutsy, and see if I can update to hardy, let alone get Gutsy installed. [01:15] the numbers and letter for the files might be different [01:15] Mortis: you mentioned an error with stdin though [01:15] but the rest is the same, right? [01:16] Yes [01:16] No [01:16] I didn't have chroot errors [01:17] Mortis: the chroot errors are related to the sort of problem you have [01:17] My stdin error was stdin: I/O error [01:17] What is the diagnosis for that problem then? [01:17] Bad drive? [01:18] ask that guy ---> [01:18] Mortis, Are you using the live cd or alternative? [01:18] livecd [01:18] The alternative doesn't mount [01:18] and it says it can't find the 'release' file. [01:19] It gets to the installation thugh, at least. [01:21] Well, I have 50 CDs now. I'm going to try and install Gutsy, then update to Hardy. [01:21] This is only going to work through trial and error. [01:21] 8-B [01:21] Mortis: if they're a different brand of CD, try burning the alternative install again [01:22] it could just be crappy cds [01:22] Mortis, This is Hardy you're attempting to install thus far? [01:23] Hello [01:23] Hi [01:24] bluetooth not working in xubuntu, what can I do ? [01:25] One second [01:25] Yes Cody. [01:25] Also, I was using Memorex CDs before. I'm about to use Sony now. [01:25] jokoon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [01:25] Mortis, I don't think the installer is correctly detecting your cd-rom drive [01:25] What can I do about it? [01:26] please join #ubuntu-installer [01:26] Okay, I'm in it. === adam is now known as maxamillion [06:14] hey guys wassup 2nite. having a little prob with google earth. installed it on this machine with seemingly no prob, but when it started up dialog box suggested that graphics card needed new driver, so i went thru the process of finding my card (tnt2 legacy), and then installed the legacy driver from 'add-remove', followed by sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' as per instruction. but now earth... [06:14] ...crashes on startup, and seemingly some other things as well... any ideas? [11:32] Hi [11:32] I'm getting stupid popups when plugging in USB removables devices [11:32] "org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-removable, no <-- (action, result)" [11:32] from what I gathered it comes from PolicyKit [11:33] anyone else has that? [13:54] which mobile phone brands have good linux support ? [13:55] hyppias: I've had success with Sony ericcson and motorola [13:55] I'd guess Nokia, too, but didn't try any since ages [13:55] colinl; NOKIA IS BAAAAAD: GNOKII IS RATHER LIMITED, AND NOKIA ITSELF DOES NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR LINUX [13:56] oops..sorry [13:58] ^^ [13:58] hyppias: sony ericcson doesn't either (provide support), but they stick to standards so it works [13:59] (phone as modem works, mass storage works) [13:59] I don't use other features like PIM [14:00] I tried Gnokii on Nokia, but it's rather limited... === adam is now known as Guest52797 === adam is now known as maxamillion === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen === maxamillion is now known as notMax [16:00] hello, i did a fresh install of xubuntu hardy, and i a am having some problems mounting partitions, xubuntu cant mount [16:00] ups [16:01] it doesnt mount automatic the outher partitions on the hd [16:01] and if i put a usb hd it mounts but cant unmount (eject) [16:02] is there a easy way to fix this please? [16:02] excalibas, you could try to check if a bug is reported at bugs.ubuntu.com and perhaps if there's a workaround in the comments === adam is now known as Guest6839 [16:02] But I wouldn't know a solution :( [16:03] or mabie a hard one.... if someone can point me any direction would be great === adam__ is now known as maxamillion [16:03] vinnl: will see that [16:04] vinnl: i dont really know what i should look for [16:05] excalibas, me neither, really. A combination of "mount", "xubuntu" and USB perhaps [16:10] vinnl: and about the automatic mounting of internal paritions? i should use fstab? [16:10] excalibas, I think so, but I know nothing about that... [16:11] ok, thanks [16:26] excalibas: yes, use fstab for automount [16:28] if you need any assistance doing that, i'll be back in 5 minutes, pm me === notMax is now known as maxamillion [17:47] hi, I'm trying to autostart an application using ~/.config/autostart/myapp.desktop. In this file, I've set a "Path=/path/to/run/in/" line, but it doesn't seem to take this in account. Ideas? [17:48] is there an official way of removing the xubuntu-desktop meta package? I just tried and it didn't pull out anything it added. [17:51] Zelut [17:51] it's my favourite question [17:52] ^^ [17:52] Zelut: try apt-get autoremove [17:52] nothing listed.. [17:52] i just used debfoster to manually clean it out, but shouldn't the removal of the meta package also remove its contents? [17:53] Zelut: what you want to stay ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop ? [17:53] Zelut: only using autoremove [17:53] Riotta: I just installed it parallel to ubuntu-desktop to take a look and then tried removing when I was done. [17:53] Zelut: you don't want to be forced to keep everything from xubuntu, right? you want to be able to uninstall gnumeric, for example [17:54] TheSheep: right. everything xubuntu-desktop added it should also remove, but its not listing anything when I do that other than the meta package itself. [17:54] here Zelut: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21441/ [17:54] this command solve your problem [17:54] Zelut: apt-get and synpatic keep track of which packages were installed manually and which were pulled in as dependencies. apt-get autoremove will remove the automatically pulled packages that no longer have their depndee [17:54] it's one big command [17:55] Zelut: of course it all breaks in flames if you use aptitude [17:55] I installed with aptitude which should auto-add and auto-remove (aptitude includes the autoremove option), but nothing was removed. [17:55] Zelut: jsut don't use aptitude [17:55] just [17:55] see link I gaved to you [17:56] gaved [17:56] that was funny [17:56] is like double past [17:56] so much in the past, that one can hardly remember [17:56] holo: English is evolving [17:56] aptitude remove works for other meta packages so why not xubuntu-desktop? [17:57] holo: stop trolling :d it's not my native language and I wanna be helpful [17:57] I know, but it's still funny [17:57] Zelut: no idea, wanna fill a bug? [17:57] okay :d [17:58] Zelut: if you installed ubuntu-desktop with aptitude you should only type remove command to remove whole packages [17:58] like sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop [17:59] and it should remove all packages from this metapackage [18:00] Riotta: that's what I'm saying. Its not working with either method. [18:00] http://pastebin.ca/1051216 [18:00] example of installing with apt-get, removing and using autoremove. Nothing is removed. [18:00] then do this manually: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21441/ [18:00] it's clean and safe command [18:01] I understand the differences in apt-get and aptitude regarding auto-removal, etc. What I'm wondering is if the package is broken so removal doesn't work [18:01] I don't think so [18:02] I had few time broken packages and it always removed it [18:02] it's not RPM, where package database corrupt often === excalibas_ is now known as excalibas [18:03] technically you should be able to remove even broken package [18:03] so we don't have any answer to why I might need to remove each package individually? I've tried with aptitude and apt-get, neither will remove the full contents. === effie is now known as effie_jayx [18:05] Zelut, you can make a script that check every depend of a package to remove and remove not only the package, but also the depends [18:06] and I assure it doesn't take more than some minutes [18:26] stupid question, where to find audio channel volume [18:28] ok fine find it ;) [18:34] I have a bulgarian friend that when she wants to say a verb in the past, uses the present, though when wants to say in the present uses past... I'm still yet to found out why [18:41] !ot | holo [18:41] holo: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [18:41] The channel wasn't active anyway [18:41] :] [18:42] how can i disable the login on xubuntu? (no pasword) [18:43] excalibas: go to settings->login window and enable automatic login [18:43] excalibas, setting login manager [18:44] Thanks :D [18:48] ups, just lost my xfce4-pannel [18:50] got it [19:44] hi [20:03] I installed the kubuntu desktop by apt-get, I have tried aptitude remove and apt-get autoremove but both have just moved the meta package instead of the entire desktop [20:11] peter77: how did you try both? [20:17] peter77: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome [20:17] Stroganoff, thanx, done :-) [20:18] pure xfce now [20:18] and fluxbox [20:18] n1 [21:56] n8 [22:05] how do you create a script to execute a command? [22:08] blondie: you write that command in a text file, and make the file executable [22:08] TheSheep, how do you make it executable? [22:09] blondie: that is, you add the 'execute' permission, you can do it by right-clicking, selecting properties and the the last tab [22:11] blondie: got it? [22:11] i did it using chmod a+x (filename) and the executable checkbox is checked on the Permissions tab but it still won't run [22:12] blondie: how do you run it? [22:12] blondie: did you add the she-bang as first line in your script ? [22:13] glitsj16: bash in the default when there is no hashbang [22:13] TheSheep: true, i don't know what kind of script blondie has made [22:13] glitsj16: no, what's that mean? !? [22:14] blondie: you can specify what program to run it with by typing '#!path-to-theprogram' as the first line, for example #!/bin/bash [22:14] i'm trying to execute a command during boot after all other services have loaded (the very last thing) [22:15] blondie: each script is interpreted, the first line i.e. #!/bin/bash is a bash script, #!/usr/bin/perl is a perl script .. the system need to know what's in there, that's the genral idea [22:15] blondie: then just add that command to the /etc/rc.local file, before the 'exit' [22:15] blondie: be aware that it gets executed with root priviledges though [22:15] TheSheep: i put it in /etc/rc.local/rc.5 [22:16] TheSheep: actually, i put a symbolic link to /home/scripts/ [22:16] blondie: rc.local is supposed to be a file === mike is now known as Guest17134 === Guest17134 is now known as sadasdad [22:33] It says 'bad interpreter' when I run it from the command line with !# [22:33] blondie: could you show the first line here please ? [22:34] blondie: it is #! instead of !#, could be a typo you made here, double-check [22:34] !#xm start linux [22:34] Factoid xm start linux not found [22:35] I put the executable text file directly instead of a symbolic link FYI [22:35] blondie: is xm the command you want to run ? [22:35] xm [22:35] and start linux are it's parameters ? [22:35] glitsj16: yes, and it works from the command line [22:36] and even when run from the same directory as the text file [22:36] perhaps BASH is not the right thing? [22:36] blondie: what's the location of xm ? /usr/bin or something else ? it needs that path as well [22:36] not sure, how do i find it? [22:36] blondie: could be, i'm not familiar with the command xm [22:37] "locate xm" from terminal will tell you that [22:37] locate command not found [22:37] oops, it's in /usr/sbin [22:38] blondie: and it is in a separate file on its own, not in one of those TheSheep mentioned ? [22:40] blondie: if it is, try #!/bin/sh as first line and in your script point to /usr/sbin/xm start linux to run it [22:40] I dont' have a file, I have rc.d and in that i have a folder rc5.d and i put the batch file in there [22:41] blondie: ok, add the path to it in that case, /usr/sbin/xm linux start [22:42] I did and it still doesn't run, but it no longer gives an error either [22:42] and, mind you, i'm just typing ./StartVM for now [22:43] oh, so don't use #! ??? [22:43] better [22:44] it ran manually, so if i restart the system will /etc/rc.d/rc4.d.StartVM execute automatically at boot [22:44] ? [22:44] blondie: i'm confused :) if it is a separate file you need the #!/bin/sh (that will tell the system to run it via shell) [22:45] blondie: is that the only line that is in there ? the xm linux start bit ? [22:45] glitsj16: when i put the she-bang in front and entered ./StartVM it didnt' run and gave no error [22:45] when i removed the she-bang it ran [22:46] the entire contents of /etc/rc.d/rc5/StartVM are /usr/sbin/xm start linux [22:47] i guess just try it? or do you think it won't work without she-bang? [22:47] oh, btw, rc5.d is a directory, not a file [22:47] blondie: ok, i still think you need the #!/bin/sh as first and only line at the top of the file StartVM [22:48] blondie: something like this: [22:48] glitsj16: does it concern you that nothing happens when you run it from the command line using ./StartVM [22:48] ? [22:48] I beg you. I have a ibook G4, and my touchpad is going insane, making my cursor shaking like crazy, gimme some simple way to shut it down, even some config file to edit [22:48] or some soft [22:49] (and a way to mount a partition that was mounted when I was under ubuntu, and how make my bluetooth work like in ubuntu) [22:50] blondie: if run in terminal yes it will work, because the terminal is in fact a shell, if run from that rc5 dir it needs it, but then ypou must start /usr/sbin/xm start linux on the next line, after #!/bin/sh [22:51] glitsj16: ahhh, so #!/bin/sh on line 1 and /usr/sbin/xm start linux on the second line [22:51] blondie: correct === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [23:16] :D [23:17] glitsj16: still not working :( [23:19] blondie: sorry; was at another channel, can i pm you ? [23:19] it totally works from the command line ./StartVM, but not during boot [23:19] OK