[00:01] <Admiral_Chicago> katoda: use /media
[00:02] <Admiral_Chicago> not media:/
[00:02] <katoda> Admiral_Chicago: it's walkaround, not the solution
[00:02] <Admiral_Chicago> katoda: wait i think i misuderstood...
[00:02] <Admiral_Chicago> you want to add an entry to media:/ to link to your folder in /media?
[00:02] <katoda> I have my device (/dev/hdd) in media:/
[00:03] <katoda> I can mount it, but when I try to access it I got "malformed URL" error
[00:03] <katoda> but it is correctly mounted to /media/cdrom1
[00:04] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay I see..afaik that is a known bug.
[00:04] <katoda> when I access /dev/hdc there is no problem ;)
[00:11] <colin__> Hi room.  What GUI tools are there to help me configure the connection to a wireless network at boot time - I have KnetworkManager setup, but this only works at user login time.  I  have family members on the one systems and I would rather not expose my key to all users.
[00:14] <frogonwheels> colin__: you should be able to do a manual config for knetworkmanager..
[00:14] <frogonwheels> colin__:  or just edit /etc/network/interfaces  :)  - I know some other tools work too.. but that's the affected file.
[00:17] <colin__> frogonwheels: Hi, I looked at this.  The "Man. Config." page has an option for a WEP key only, but my router has WPA keys.
[00:19] <frogonwheels> colin__:http://wiki.debian.org/WPA
[00:19] <frogonwheels> you looked there?
[00:20] <frogonwheels> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/wpa_default_xandros
[00:20] <frogonwheels> gg: network interfaces wpa setup
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[00:40] <joseph> how would one setup things so they can shut their laptop lid and use a monitor?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> is kde4 officially released yet or is it still beta???
[00:40] <joseph> !kde4
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> joseph: ok but it doesnt say if its official or nor
[00:42] <joseph> ActionParsnip: go to the page and find out.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> joseph: im on it, it doesnt state if its official or not
[00:44] <joseph> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> joseph: "KDE 4.0.4 has been released" does not necessarily mean its officially released
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> joseph: you can put beta stuff on the repos under unsupported
[00:45] <edj> I did  the install-cs.sh thing, but Kaffeine doesn't recognize that libdvdcss2 is installed, so I get the "encrypted" message and no dvd will play.  Any hints, pointers, etc. appreciated.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> edj: install the libdvdcss2
[00:49] <EightiesK> hello!
[00:53] <EightiesK> can anyone help me?
[00:54] <engineer> ~anyone
[00:54] <engineer> EightiesK what's wrong
[00:54] <EightiesK> my sound isn't working.
[00:54] <EightiesK> ; ;
[00:54] <engineer> !t
[00:54] <tony__> anyone know a way to select all packages in adept that match the search?
[00:54] <EightiesK> I tried !sound
[00:54] <engineer> ctrl+a
[00:55] <engineer> EightiesK did you check if your faders are all up?
[00:55]  * EightiesK nods.
[00:55] <tony__> engineer, thanks but it seems to have frozen it up
[00:55] <engineer> tony__ do yourself a favor and use synaptic
[00:56] <engineer> it's more stable than adept
[00:56] <engineer> and better in my opinion
[00:56] <tony__> engineer, it's going now, just took a while but yeah, i'll try that as well
[00:57] <engineer> i think adept could have better gui notifications
[00:58] <szakulec> is there a guide to setting up your gmail to be signed? (either in the browser or in the email client)
[00:58] <tony__> i'm kind of pissed at adept. by removing one pulseaudio lib file, it was going to remove all my kde4 stuff until i killed it
[01:04] <bestpvp> how do u access a usb drive?
[01:05] <NDPMacBook> You plug it in
[01:05] <bestpvp> they come up as elements?
[01:06] <Conundrum_> you on kde 4?
[01:09] <bestpvp> gnome
[01:09] <pa> 123456
[01:10] <Conundrum_> apt-get install fam hal
[01:10] <Conundrum_> these 2 packages will help in auto mounting
[01:12] <bestpvp> is it a gui mount manager?
[01:12] <bestpvp> those r needed
[01:13] <Conundrum_> these are the daemons
[01:13] <bestpvp> linux should be a hybrid and not unix only
[01:13] <Conundrum_> nautilus will do the mounting once these daemons are present
[01:13] <bestpvp> promoting graphical and use ablilty for ppl that like windows style over command
[01:13] <Conundrum_> =/
[01:14] <Conundrum_> ubuntu is as gui friendly as it gets
[01:14] <bestpvp> well they have aways togo
[01:14] <bestpvp> there archive manager in 8.04 doesn't support rar
[01:15] <kkathman> Conundrum_,  kinda in the wrong channel to talk about nautilus :)
[01:15] <kkathman> heh
[01:15] <Conundrum_> yeap =.=
[01:15] <kkathman> bestpvp,  and yes the archive manage does support rar if you install it
[01:15] <asobi> is there a linux counterpart to hjsplit?
[01:15] <bestpvp> well i can't use windows with my server tho i am stuck with linux
[01:16] <bestpvp> windows fails
[01:16] <kkathman> bestpvp,  why cant your use windows with yer server?
[01:16] <kkathman> should just be a matter of authentication
[01:16] <bestpvp> well it's a highend server and bw
[01:16] <kkathman> if you can authenticate with linux, you can authenticate with windows
[01:17] <kkathman> bestpvp,  try putty then
[01:17] <kkathman> or some similar thing
[01:17] <bestpvp> 1 gbits of internet the other is 100mbits
[01:17] <bestpvp> ubunto 8.04 32bit desktop on both of them
[01:17] <Canageek> Hello, I've been having some problems with dpkg and was wondering if someone could help me
[01:18] <Conundrum_> kkathman:  what package do you use to get rar supported for archive manager?
[01:18] <Jucato> Conundrum_: rar and unrar
[01:19] <bestpvp> i forgot the apg-get command
[01:19] <Canageek> when I run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" I get "dpkg: failed to write status record about `konqueror-nsplugins' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device" even though theres 30gb left on that drive. And becuse of the error all my package managers don't work
[01:19] <Conundrum_> thats weird
[01:19] <Conundrum_> rar and unrar don't work for me
[01:19] <Conundrum_> <_<
[01:19] <kkathman> Conundrum_,  look in symantec or adept
[01:20] <kkathman> lemme check
[01:20] <kkathman> Conundrum_,  try unrar
[01:20] <bestpvp> conundrum what do i open for the mounting?
[01:20] <Canageek> anyone know how to tell dpkg to work again?
[01:21] <kkathman> Conundrum_, sudo aptitude install unrar-free
[01:21] <kkathman> theres also a non-free version if you'd like
[01:22] <Conundrum_> uh oh
[01:22] <kkathman> dont know why unrar wont work tho
[01:22] <Conundrum_> i kinda bricked apt-get
[01:22] <Conundrum_> LOL
[01:22] <kkathman> could be that the archive is hosed too maybe
[01:22] <Conundrum_> i deleted the archives folder to save space <_<
[01:22] <Conundrum_> now it won't work lol
[01:23] <xiph> hi all
[01:23] <xiph> just installed kubuntu with kde4
[01:23] <Conundrum_> hi
[01:23] <xiph> just wonder, how do I put icons and folders on the desktop?
[01:23] <xiph> those fuckin' widgets...
[01:24] <Conundrum_> right click the item that you want
[01:24] <Conundrum_> and click add to desktop
[01:24] <xiph> in the widget list or?
[01:24] <livingxsacrifice> is kde4 worth it?
[01:24] <Conundrum_> kinda
[01:24] <xiph> hell no
[01:24] <Conundrum_> err xiph
[01:25] <Conundrum_> what do you want to add in the first place?
[01:25] <Conundrum_> widgets or program shortcuts?
[01:25] <xiph> just an shortcut to a sftp-folder
[01:25] <xiph> *a shortcut
[01:25] <livingxsacrifice> is there anyone in here that recommends kde4?
[01:26] <xiph> I feel so limited
[01:26] <kkathman> livingxsacrifice,  if you want to work with beta software knowing that it will crash frequently-- and you want to help the devs - sure go ahead
[01:27] <xiph> can't even create a folder at the desktop
[01:27] <kkathman> xiph,  ???
[01:27] <kkathman> right click on the desktop??
[01:27] <kkathman> lol
[01:27] <xiph> yes
[01:27] <xiph> and then?
[01:27] <kkathman> choose create :)
[01:27] <livingxsacrifice> create new
[01:27] <xiph> there are none
[01:28] <kkathman> heh?
[01:28] <livingxsacrifice> that sucks
[01:28] <Conundrum_> kkathman: unrar still doesn't work with ark for me
[01:28] <Conundrum_> too bad i guess <_<
[01:28] <kkathman> hmm
[01:28] <xiph> Run command, add widget, configure desktop, align horizontally, align vertically, lock widgets, lock screen and logout
[01:29] <xiph> that's all
[01:30] <xiph> well, think I will go back to kde3 asap
[01:30] <Conundrum_> you can try dragging out the folder
[01:30] <Conundrum_> from konqueror or dolphin
[01:30] <Conundrum_> onto your desktop
[01:30] <xiph> yes, tried that.
[01:30] <Conundrum_> doesnt work?
[01:30] <xiph> and it worked
[01:30] <Conundrum_> o
[01:31] <xiph> though it can't be supposed to be that way
[01:31] <Conundrum_> yea
[01:31] <Conundrum_> another way is
[01:31] <Conundrum_> u open 2 file managers
[01:32] <bestpvp> is there a gui drive manager?
[01:32] <Conundrum_> one with /home/<user name>/desktop , another with the /sftp
[01:32] <xiph> yes
[01:32] <Conundrum_> u drag the sftp folder into desktop
[01:32] <Conundrum_> they'll prompt you
[01:32] <xiph> well, then I prefer windows before kubuntu with kde4 actually
[01:33]  * xiph pukes
[01:33] <xiph> bye
[01:33] <kkathman> xiph,  well, to each their own :)
[01:33] <Conundrum_> lol
[01:34] <kkathman> doncha just love people that quit - hehe....ohh linux is too hard...i'm so used to being spoon fed by microsoft
[01:34] <kkathman> arrgh
[01:38] <Conundrum_> lol
[01:38] <Conundrum_> ark is getting on my nerves thou
[01:43] <bestpvp> damn i got blocked out of freenx
[01:43] <bestpvp> restarting it didn't do anything
[01:49] <psyco> hey where is the folder, "baghira sources, sub-directory  starter/Themes"
[01:51] <leandro> Olá pessoas, por favor, como eu entro no canal de ajuda?
[01:52] <genii> !es | leandro
[01:52] <leandro> preciso dum canal pt
[01:52] <leandro> de preferencia br
[01:53] <leandro> sou iniciante em linux
[01:53] <genii> !br | leandro
[01:58] <psyco> I am looking for icons in a folder, the instructions are
[01:58] <psyco> "baghira sources, sub-directory  starter/Themes"
[01:58] <psyco> where would that be
[02:06] <bestpvp> welp that server is half way fried now tnx to that program u gave me conundrum freenx is dead
[02:08] <bestpvp> y r usb drives still hard to deal with in ubuntu 8.04
[02:10] <psyco> what is a good dock program that supports the K-Menu
[02:16] <joseph> kde3 > kde4
[02:27] <psyco> what is the kiba dock irc channel?????
[02:29] <dr_Willis> check the kibadock homepage? they may or may not have an irc channel
[02:31] <ShadowKnight> Hey all
[02:32] <ShadowKnight> Has anyone heard of a problem with glx when upgrading from LTS to Hardy?
[02:32] <tony__> anyone know the command for "volume up" in kmix or something so to configure my logitech keyboard?
[02:35] <ShadowKnight> Anyone here?
[02:36] <ShadowKnight> Hello?
[02:37] <tea-too> !hello
[02:37] <Zelut> what are the keyboard shortcut keys to switch virtual desktops? (4.0.5)
[02:38] <ShadowKnight> Um, does anyone here know about problems with video drivers when upgrading to Hardy?
[02:38] <ShadowKnight> Specifically, I can't seem to remove nvidia-glx for nvidia-glx-new, and nothing requiring 3d will run...
[02:40] <ShadowKnight> Can anyone help me?
[02:42] <tea-too> i don't know enough to help you
[02:42] <tea-too> !nvidia
[02:42] <ShadowKnight> Hmm... Thanks anyway.
[02:43] <genii> Zelut: If on kde4 then try channel #kubuntu-kde4
[02:43] <ShadowKnight> Yeah, I seem to have just found a thread for my problem on the ubuntu forums.
[02:44] <ShadowKnight> Looks like it's a system problem, broken link...
[02:44] <ShadowKnight> I'm going to check it out on my system
[02:45] <castor> hola
[02:47] <castor> hola hay alguien con vida
[02:48] <tea-too> castor |!es
[02:48] <castor> hi
[02:48] <tea-too> !es |castor
[03:05] <brian__> hey all
[03:06] <brian__> i usually use gentoo, and im finding kubuntu too complicated :)
[03:06] <brian__> im trying to compile some source by hand
[03:06] <brian__> the script asks me for the source for my running kernel
[03:07] <brian__> so i point it to /lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/build
[03:07] <genii> brian__: First i find it odd coming from gentoo that you find kubuntu complicated :) That aside. Is there some reason to compile by hand? eg: The program does not exist in the repositories or so?
[03:08] <brian__> yeah, its not in repos
[03:09] <brian__> lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[03:09] <brian__> does not match the currently running kernel (2.6.24-18-generic)
[03:09] <flaccid> you need to install linux-headers or linux-source
[03:09] <brian__> lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[03:09] <brian__> does not match the currently running kernel (2.6.24-18-generic)
[03:09] <flaccid> for current kernel
[03:09] <brian__> oops
[03:10] <brian__> flaccid: pretty sure ive done both, my limp friend
[03:10] <genii> brian__: Have you installed the package build-essential ?
[03:10] <brian__> lemme check again
[03:10] <flaccid> brian__: did you install linux-headers-generic ?
[03:10] <brian__> genii: how could i forget build-essential
[03:10] <brian__> flaccid, one sec
[03:11] <genii> brian__: Some ppl don't know it's needed, you'd be surprised :)
[03:11] <flaccid> well i always forget the pkg names and stufff here
[03:11] <brian__> ive actually known that.  build essentials come default with gentoo ;)
[03:12] <flaccid> i'd expect them to haha
[03:12] <flaccid> brian__: and if the headers aint enough, maybe you need to install linux-generic
[03:15] <flaccid> so i think the pkg names now are like linux-generic-headers for the headers and linux-generic for full kernel of current kernel version
[03:15] <brian__> flaccid: i ahve linux-generic and linux-headers-generic
[03:15] <brian__> and i also now have build essentials, but im still getting that error
[03:15] <flaccid> maybe pointing it to wrong location?
[03:15] <flaccid> can you paste the tail of your output on pastebin, just so i get a feel?
[03:15] <brian__> $ uname -a
[03:15] <brian__> Linux brian-laptop 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:16] <Taggnostr> hello
[03:16] <flaccid> brian__: the compile tail error that is
[03:16] <brian__> flaccid:  sure
[03:16] <mr---t-> Taggnostr: !hello
[03:16] <Taggnostr> !hello
[03:18] <brian__> flaccid:  here's the whole thing
[03:18] <brian__> http://pastebin.ca/1051640
[03:18] <flaccid> ta
[03:18] <brian__> how can i x-ref the version.h file with my uname
[03:20] <Taggnostr> how can I mount a cd?
[03:20] <brian__> http://pastebin.ca/1051640
[03:20] <genii> brian__: Has the program you are trying to install been successfully compiled for that kernel version on some other distribution?
[03:21] <brian__> genii: perhaps not, it is an older version
[03:21] <flaccid> brian__: perhaps it wants the relevant dir in /usr/src ..
[03:21] <brian__> flaccid: think i tried that, lemme try again
[03:21] <genii> brian__: I'm seeing on google for instance references to this error with a program called driverloader for instance
[03:22] <brian__> genii: ive seen that too.  im trying to compile a modem module
[03:23] <brian__> conexant hsf
[03:23] <brian__> flaccid: nah, doesnt matter what dir i feed it
[03:23] <brian__> genii: im thinking it just doesnt recognize the version number or something
[03:24] <ubuntu> ff
[03:24] <genii> Taggnostr: sudo mkdir /media/cd01; sudo mount -t iso9660 -o users /dev/scd0 /media/cd01
[03:24] <ubuntu> f
[03:24] <genii> brian__: I had issues compiling the conexant drivers on versions of ubuntu later than Dapper
[03:24] <Kubuntu> #kubuntu-es
[03:25] <genii> brian__: No fix I know of
[03:25] <guillermo_spain> hi
[03:25] <genii> Kubuntu: /j #kubuntu-es   :)
[03:26] <guillermo_spain> do you know why when I have a external monitor connected to my laptop, fonts in the desktop are rendered smaller than without a monitor connected?
[03:26] <Taggnostr> genii, it doesn't seem to be any /dev/scd0
[03:27] <genii> Taggnostr: Does the device cdrom or dvd exist in the /dev directory?
[03:27] <Taggnostr> wait, I'm checking it
[03:28] <Taggnostr> do I have to create the /media/cd01 dir even if I only need to access a couple of files from the cd and then remove it?
[03:28] <Taggnostr> isn't there something like a temp dir?
[03:29] <genii> Taggnostr: Yes you can make the dir anyplace you want. But the username you have should be able to get there. /media is usual since most removable things are there
[03:39] <Taggnostr> genii, that worked, thanks
[03:39] <Taggnostr> do I have to delete cd01 now?
[03:40] <genii> Taggnostr: You can if you like, yes
[03:40] <Taggnostr> rm /media/cd01 ?
[03:42] <genii> Yes
[03:42] <genii> You might need preface of   sudo
[03:43] <Taggnostr> it says that I can't delete it because it is a directory
[03:44] <abhijit> hi i m facing a small problem..i ve installed ubuntu 8.04 in my asus eee pc through an sd card... the installation went fine but now the card is unable to automount. i ve to manually mount it everytime and even after that it has no write permissin
[03:44] <abhijit> do u guys have ne remedy for my problem
[03:46] <flaccid> abhijit: is this a card that you leave in the pc or you take out regularly?
[03:46] <abhijit> it is an sdhc card. i take it out regularly
[03:47] <flaccid> abhijit: when you put it in what happens? can you pastebin dmesg ?
[03:47] <abhijit> ok...hold on
[03:47] <abhijit> it says-invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume.
[03:48] <bestpvp> how do u reformat usb drives?
[03:49] <abhijit> i use da partition editor
[03:49] <flaccid> abhijit: pastebin /etc/fstab please
[03:49] <abhijit> ok
[03:49] <flaccid> bestpvp: i think you can with qtparted
[03:50] <genii> Taggnostr: You need to umnount it first, and also not have some program using or looking there. So first:   sudo umount /media/cd01
[03:50] <genii> Taggnostr: then: sudo rm -r /media/cd01
[03:50] <Taggnostr> it says not mounted, I rebooted in the meanwhile
[03:51] <abhijit> wat do i need to paste? /etc/fstab?
[03:51] <flaccid> yep
[03:51] <Taggnostr> ok, -r worked, thanks again
[03:51] <genii> Taggnostr: My apologies, I'm tired and gave incorrect syntax for directory removal originally when using rm command and not specifically rmdir command
[03:52] <abhijit> it says permission denied
[03:52] <CrazyPoultry> hello all, I have run into an interesting problem, after installing kubuntu 8.04 and using the fwcutter howto on the ubuntu forums, i have run into a slight issue with my wifi access.  For some odd reson Akregator, Kontact, and Konqueror do not have access to any online content.  Kopete and Firefox as well as Adept all do, I apoligize if this is a simple problem I am overlooking, but none the less has me quite confused, any help would
[03:52] <flaccid> abhijit: ls -l /etc/fstab
[03:52] <abhijit> ok
[03:52] <flaccid> CrazyPoultry: thats pretty crazy
[03:53] <CrazyPoultry> My thoughts exactly
[03:53] <flaccid> abhijit: what did that say?
[03:54] <abhijit> ooh.. m not able to make it
[03:54] <abhijit> wat do i need to type exactly?
[03:54] <abhijit> mine is ubuntu 8.04
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, quit knetworkmanager and see if it works
[03:55] <flaccid> abhijit: ^^ i gave you the command exactly
[03:55] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, I have a feeling you've configured the networking outside of knetworkmanager, knetworkmanager ends up thinking you're offline so it tells applications to stay in a 'offline' mode.
[03:55] <flaccid> abhijit: if you want to get the contents of fstab for pastebin, easiest is kate /etc/fstab
[03:55] <abhijit> ok
[03:56] <flaccid> hmm knetworkmanager should respect /etc/network/interfaces etc. however
[03:56] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, in my experience, it hasn't.
[03:56] <CrazyPoultry> Ash-Fox: the how to i stumbled across was using dhclient from command line, unfortunatley my linux knowledge is minimal and i am unsure what to do
[03:56] <bestpvp> fuck fuck fuck
[03:56] <flaccid> dang. yeah knetworkmanager does have a long way to go
[03:56] <flaccid> !language | bestpvp
[03:56] <abhijit> i dont ve kate.. so installin it rite now..
[03:56] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, right click on the network manager in your tray and choose 'quit'
[03:56] <bestpvp> this is impossible
[03:57] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, see if your applications suddenly start working online
[03:57] <flaccid> abhijit: oh you are on ubuntu, not kubuntu. you can use gedit instead
[03:57] <abhijit> sir i ve got it
[03:57] <CrazyPoultry> Ash-Fox: yes that worked
[03:57] <bestpvp> fuck ubuntu fuck fuck
[03:57] <flaccid> !ops | bestpvp
[03:58] <abhijit> now i can see a window
[03:58] <abhijit> fstab
[03:58] <flaccid> oops
[03:58] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, yep, the issue is that you configured networking outside of knetworkmanager (that application you just closed). So when it thinks you're offline, it tells applications to not use the network etc.
[03:58] <CrazyPoultry> Ash-Fox: is there a way to fix that or just deal with it for now?
[03:59] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, if it's a wifi network.. restore the configs to default, start it up again (internet -> knetworkmanager), right click on the icon in the tray - choose your wireless network and it should auto configure the rest
[03:59] <flaccid> !pastebin | abhijit
[04:00] <flaccid> pastebin the fstab using above service, abhijit
[04:00] <abhijit> ok
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> CrazyPoultry, or just make sure knetworkmanager doesn't start if you don't want to use it
[04:00] <flaccid> CrazyPoultry: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and i can see if there is a possible fix?
[04:01] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, btw, knetworkmanager only respects things for ethernet interfaces. when it comes to wifi it just acts stupid
[04:01] <flaccid> CrazyPoultry: well basically the only thing you want in /etc/network/interfaces is localhost and then leave the rest to knetworkmanager
[04:01] <mrksbrd> what corrects this problem?......Could not connect to host http://download.kde.org/khotnewstuff/wallpaper-providers.xml.................Error parsing providers list.
[04:02] <flaccid> Ash-Fox: do you mean in the case of wireless configs in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:02] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, indeed.
[04:02] <flaccid> and that is what CrazyPoultry has?
[04:03] <Ash-Fox> I don't know.
[04:03] <abhijit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21556/ hey flaccid se wats wrong in it
[04:03] <Ash-Fox> I've only determined he's configured his networking outside of knetworkmanager.
[04:03] <flaccid> wouldn't mind seeing because i havnt witness that before
[04:03] <Ash-Fox> I've had the issue.
[04:03] <Ash-Fox> Also because I use wvdial for connecting over 3g networks, knetworkmanager gets in the way.
[04:04] <flaccid> i've had wep and wpa static in interfaces and knetworkmanager respected it thats all
[04:04] <flaccid> oh
[04:04] <Ash-Fox> But I just made a connection script execute 'dcop kded networkstatus setNetworkStatus NMNetwork 1' once it's connected and 'dcop kded networkstatus setNetworkStatus NMNetwork 0' when it's disconnected.
[04:04] <flaccid> abhijit: which device is your sd card or is it not in there?
[04:04] <abhijit> its dere... its a class 6 sdhc card
[04:04] <abhijit> i can mount it nd access its content
[04:05] <abhijit> manually tho
[04:05] <flaccid> abhijit: and what is the /dev ?
[04:05] <flaccid> Ash-Fox: hectic!
[04:06] <abhijit> i donno.. but dat sdb1 is da card
[04:06] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, hey, if knetworkmanager supported dialing my 3g card. I'd be happy with it.
[04:06] <flaccid> abhijit: if you uncomment the last line it should work. obviously an sd card is not a cdrom...
[04:07] <flaccid> Ash-Fox: i agree. i mean i researched once and there is a lot of completes with the program
[04:07] <flaccid> 'far from a decent/proper network manager' they say
[04:07] <Ash-Fox> Oh, I think it's decent for what it does.
[04:08] <flaccid> i agree, there are a few caveats. the one i would like to see is ability to export a connection to /etc/network/interfaces to make it on-boot/system instead of user ie. its on the net on boot instead of on login after putting in kwallet password..
[04:09] <abhijit> lemme tell u how i mount da card rite now..i use partition editor..nd dere i select my card nd den i use da mount option which says mount on media/cdrom0
[04:09] <Ash-Fox> I would like the ability to specify IP addresses manually for certain wireless networks
[04:10] <flaccid> abhijit: if you take it out of fstab (comment it) then hald will automount it for you. it does not need fstab
[04:10] <Ash-Fox> knetworkmanager doesn't provide me that flexibility. So I have to resort to... interesting scripts in /etc/network/interfaces and knetworkmanager randomness.
[04:10] <flaccid> Ash-Fox: yep the profiling needs to be better i agree
[04:10] <flaccid> it aspects like this that puts kubuntu behind ubuntu/gnome
[04:11] <Ash-Fox> I don't use Gnome.
[04:11] <Ash-Fox> So I really wouldn't know.
[04:11] <flaccid> neither do i, but its better in this respect thats for sure
[04:12] <flaccid> just need to give the kde devs about 1year i think
[04:13] <guillermo_spain> flaccid kde will rely in the dbus interface instead of dcop in the future
[04:13] <abhijit> i m unable to make ne change to fstab
[04:13] <flaccid> guillermo_spain: yep aware of that :)
[04:14] <flaccid> still interprocess communicatin shouldn't have much to do with this at all :)
[04:17] <guillermo_spain> flaccid well I don't know for what do you want ipc, also dbus works as a service outside gui, so probably you will be able to do that, maybe i'm wrong, i'm not a unix hacker :)
[04:17] <abhijit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794871 hey flaccid i ve found dis ..see if it can be true
[04:18] <flaccid> well we have to wait for port to qt4 of knm anyway
[04:18] <flaccid> abhijit: good for you. my solution should be better :)
[04:18] <flaccid> oh there is no solution there anyway
[04:19] <mrksbrd> anyone know how to get firefox back into online mode?...i believe i checked all the tabs but cannot find anything
[04:19] <abhijit> ok... lets try urs one first . but first lemme find a way out to edit da fstab file.kate is unable to do it for me
[04:19] <flaccid> mrksbrd: file menu | work offline
[04:20] <flaccid> abhijit: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab  (need root perms)
[04:27] <victor__> Hola!
[04:27] <flaccid> abhijit: oh lol that person suggests the same thing as me anyway...
[04:28] <flaccid> that must mean im good at diagnosis :p
[04:29] <abhijit> yea..now i dont see my card at all
[04:29] <mrksbrd> ty
[04:29] <flaccid> abhijit: take it out and plug it back in, what happens?
[04:29] <flaccid> abhijit: and check what dmesg says also
[04:30] <abhijit> ok
[04:30] <tony__> anyone know a way to get mixers working in-game to adjust game volume?
[04:31] <victor__> hey
[04:31] <flaccid> tony__: only real way i know is goto a tty and use alsamixer
[04:31] <abhijit> now nothing pops out but wen i click da card reader's icon.. i get a message as canot mount
[04:32] <victor__> alguien que pueda ayudarme
[04:32] <abhijit> i ve da line copied.. leme paste it again
[04:32] <victor__> solo necesito aclarar un par de dudas
[04:32] <flaccid> abhijit: show me dmesg after you plug it in and check if hal is running by ps aux | grep hal <-- pastebin these
[04:32] <victor__> :D
[04:32] <flaccid> abhijit: you do not click the icon because it is most likely invalid. you should get a popup via hald
[04:33] <victor__> n
[04:33] <flaccid> well depends which icon you talking about
[04:33] <mrealtime> I've got a rather annoying nuisance with knetworkmanager... it loses the fact I entered a hex key, and reverts to pass phrase, then it queries me every boot (or login)
[04:33] <tony__> flaccid, tty?
[04:33] <victor__> jdjdj
[04:33] <abhijit> naah.. i dont get ne.. but wen  i again repasted it.. da drive name came out. da problems still dere
[04:33] <mrealtime> at least I don't have to enter the hex key, but it just won't store the dropdown key type
[04:33] <flaccid> tony__: yeah ctrl+alt+f2 for example
[04:34] <flaccid> abhijit: you are not helping yourself. if you do my suggestions i can help...
[04:34] <abhijit> all hpnd bcuz i dont ve ne usb cd reader
[04:34] <mr---t-> !es | victor
[04:34] <abhijit> ok
[04:34] <tony__> flaccid, oh. i hope there's a fix soon. my speaker volume dial sits a good way away from me
[04:35] <flaccid> tony__: its not a bug.
[04:35] <abhijit> tell me from where should i delete
[04:35] <flaccid> abhijit: [13:32] <flaccid> abhijit: show me dmesg after you plug it in and check if hal is running by ps aux | grep hal <-- pastebin these
[04:36] <mrealtime> or if nobody knows, where does knetworkmanager keep the listing of networks?
[04:36] <mrksbrd> what is the terminal command to get java?...sudo apt-get install java?
[04:36] <mrksbrd> can't get it to find it
[04:36] <flaccid> !java | mrksbrd you probably want sun-java6-plugin
[04:37] <mrksbrd> ty
[04:37] <flaccid> np
[04:39] <abhijit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21562/ i got dis msg after i used dat hal cmd
[04:39] <flaccid> abhijit: and dmesg please
[04:41] <abhijit> Cannot mount volume. invalid mount option when attempting to mount the file
[04:41] <flaccid> abhijit: and you are sure this is after commenting out the line in fstab?
[04:42] <abhijit> no no.. wen i delete da line.. da card itself gets disapeared...
[04:42] <flaccid> abhijit: pastebin sudo fdisk -l while the disk is inserted please
[04:42] <flaccid> abhijit: err thats the idea!!!
[04:42] <flaccid> you then plug it back in and hal shoud ask you if you would like to mount it
[04:44] <abhijit> lets try it once more.. but flaccid cud u plz again tell me , from which part should i delete da line
[04:45] <flaccid> abhijit: this is all you need in fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21563/
[04:45] <flaccid> and try to use you instead of 'u' please :)
[04:48]  * flaccid brb
[04:48] <abhijit> thanks man... u r sir a genius!!!
[04:49] <abhijit> thank u so much flaccid
[04:53] <abhijit> oh sorry.. i apologize for that. i didnt notice your suggestion of using you instead of u
[04:57] <mrealtime> is there an alternate network auto-configurator?
[04:58] <brian__> hey all.
[04:58] <flaccid> cool, i was right :o
[04:59] <brian__> trying another softmodem, still having issues compiling under kubuntu
[04:59] <brian__> http://pastebin.ca/1051699
[04:59] <brian__> i dont want to just go installing any and all "asm"-related packages, so  was hoping someone knew what i needed
[04:59] <genii> brian__: If all you have is winmodems I suggest the Motorola ones
[04:59] <brian__> what would give me asm-offset.c?
[05:00] <brian__> genii: its not like i can have any one i want :P
[05:00] <brian__> its a laptop
[05:00] <genii> Or Lucents which support the ltmodem driver
[05:00] <brian__> genii: this is similar to the lucent
[05:00] <brian__> same devs i think
[05:00] <genii> Hmm
[05:00] <brian__> but something is seriously wrong with my toolchain
[05:01] <brian__> i think
[05:01] <genii> brian__: I'd poke into it further but I'm exhausted tonight
[05:02] <brian__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/233950
[05:02] <brian__> genii: thanks anyway
[05:02] <genii> brian__: Try me in maybe 12 hours :)
[05:02] <brian__> if i dont have it licked by then ill come looking for you
[05:03] <flaccid> brian__: there isn't one in hardware drivers manager to simply enable?
[05:03] <genii> brian__: #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-devel may also be helpful channels for you if it's compiling related stuff
[05:03] <lyc> hello evetybody!
[05:04] <brian__> flaccid: im new to *buntu.  first ive time im trying it now
[05:04] <genii> Gnit all
[05:04] <brian__> goodnight
[05:04] <brian__> flaccid: that app just says "no proprietary drivers are installed on this system"
[05:05] <flaccid> brian__: worth a try with the ones it supports, if you had one it would be listed. so unfortunate for you..
[05:07] <brian__> maybe its this upgrade i accidentally did
[05:07] <brian__> let me try restarting or somethingf
[05:07] <flaccid> fair enough
[05:12]  * flaccid bbs
[05:18] <Ashex> anyone know of a good renaming utility?
[05:19] <Ashex> I screwed up and added what should have been an expression to all the files in a folder
[05:19] <frogonwheels> Ashex:  have you looked at krename  ?
[05:19] <Ashex> Yeah
[05:19] <Ashex> I'm trying to figure out how to just remove "[01-20]" from the middle of a filename
[05:20] <Ashex> oh hey, there it goes!
[05:20] <Ashex> Didn't check the overwrite file checkbox
[05:21] <frogonwheels> erm  for i in (*) ; do ; mv $i  `echo $i | sed 's/\[01-20]//`; done
[05:21] <frogonwheels> damn
[05:21] <Ashex> heh
[05:21] <Ashex> I'm fixing the filenames of all my tv shows so they all have the same naming conventions
[05:21] <Ashex> so it'll actually import into mediaportal more cleanly
[05:33] <K`zan> Hi folks, what is the program one uses to check for updates?
[05:34] <mr---t-> adept
[05:36] <K`zan> adept? OK thanks will give that a shot.  Not sure why it quit running but it has been long enough I probably should check :)!  Thanks much!
[05:36] <mr---t-> or sudo apt-get updates
[05:37] <mr---t-> !updates
[05:37] <K`zan> adept: command not found
[05:40] <K`zan> adept_notifier...
[05:40] <K`zan> Thanks folks.
[05:47] <brian__> hey all
[05:48] <brian__> still working out kubuntu on my laptop.  its a little too advanced for me.  i think i need to go back to a newb distro im more familar with, like gentoo
[05:48] <brian__> for some reasons when i build unsupported modules they get installed into
[05:48] <brian__>  /lib/modules/2.6.24.3/extra
[05:49] <brian__> so then later, when i try to modprobe i get FATAL:  Module not found
[05:49] <flaccid> yeah i mean i rarely compile on ubuntu because its a pkg kind of OS. i usually compile on freebsd which is pretty straight forward. still you probably just need to hassle somebody like nixternal to fill in the gaps
[05:49] <cpk1> brian__: was that an attempt at a joke? =P
[05:50] <brian__> ;)
[06:02] <brian__> i copied the directory with the module to the right place, and now i can tab complete the modprobe drivername, but i still get "driver not found"...
[06:02] <brian__> maybe another reboot?
[06:02] <robotgeek> hi, i have kubuntu hardy installed. my computer has 4gb of ram (bios reports so). how come free -m does not report 4 gb
[06:15] <brian__> woot
[06:15] <brian__> had to manually depmod
[06:22] <flaccid> brian__: yeah thats normal i think
[06:22] <flaccid> still i don't really know what modprobe and depmod difference is. but i've had your same situation recently
[06:24] <brian__> modprobe loads a module and its dependencies whereas insmod wont get deps.  depmod tells linux to check for new modules in its modules area
[06:26] <flaccid> oh ok, thanks for the info
[06:37] <brian__> im sure depmod does way more than that, but generally i build modules into my kernel with gentoo, which automatically executes a depmod.  asterisk hardware is an exception, but its makefile depmods
[06:47] <generic> hi all i want to send A3 printing from KPDF its not working any idea ?
[06:56] <ubuntu__prinzi> hi
[06:56] <ubuntu__prinzi> can anyone show me how to use md5check ?
[06:57] <ubuntu__prinzi> md5sum -c cd Desktop/openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386.iso    does not work
[06:58] <sigma_12> can i enter shared drives on win vista machines with the smb protocol on kubuntu. i can with xp
[06:58] <NickPresta> ubuntu__prinzi, md5sum Desktop/openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386.iso   That will give you the md5sum. Then compare it to what ever you're expecting
[06:58] <ubuntu__prinzi> oh
[06:58] <trivial> hello
[06:59] <ubuntu__prinzi> he says no file such directory
[06:59] <NickPresta> ubuntu__prinzi, where did you download the ISO to?
[06:59] <Jucato> ubuntu__prinzi: go to the directory where the ISO is
[06:59] <trivial> I have a problem in both xterm and konsole "request to switch into FULLSCREEN mode failed: too dumb terminal 'xterm' (no cursor move capabilitie)"
[06:59] <ubuntu__prinzi> ftp uni aachen
[06:59] <damien> What are all of the konsole commands?
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> damien: that's a joke right?
[07:00] <damien> No
[07:00] <ubuntu__prinzi> no^
[07:00] <Jucato> ubuntu__prinzi: as in where did you download it to? what folder? where in your hard disk?
[07:00] <trivial> what are all of the konsole commands? I am trying to run a program
[07:00] <NickPresta> damien, there are far too many to list them all here. Assuming you're using a Bash shell, `man bash` should get your started
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> there are *books* dedicated to the subject.
[07:00] <damien> NickPresta, I wish to talk to you
[07:01] <ubuntu__prinzi> i have a big boock
[07:01] <NickPresta> damien, sorry buddy. I'm afraid I can't be much help on the subject. There are many resources available on the net :)
[07:01] <ubuntu__prinzi> but that doesnt discribes it -.-
[07:01] <Jucato> !cli
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php is a good one for starting out
[07:01] <trivial> is this a bug in Kubuntu/Ubuntu? because it works in redhat 7.x
[07:01] <ubuntu__prinzi> hehe
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> and one of my personal favourite sites: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-bash.html
[07:02] <generic> helo guys
[07:02] <generic> any one know i print A3 docs from KPDF
[07:02] <trivial> Daisuke_Ido do you have an idea?
[07:03] <frogonwheels> generic: yeah.
[07:03] <generic> how?
[07:03] <ubuntu__prinzi> but if it were only a small -t or so it would be better if you could say me
[07:03] <frogonwheels> print A4 - then go to poser options
[07:03] <frogonwheels> poster
[07:03] <generic> frogonwheels
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> trivial: nope, sorry
[07:03] <generic> i try alot but it no use to print A3 docs
[07:03] <trivial> Daisuke_Ido do you program in kubuntu?
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[07:04] <trivial> hahha ok
[07:04] <frogonwheels>  generic - so what did you try? what happened?
[07:04] <frogonwheels> properties|poster|  check Print Poster, postersize A3 etc.. no?
[07:05] <generic> where is poster options?
[07:05] <trivial> Hello..... is there any programmers here?
[07:05] <frogonwheels> on the print screen, press properties
[07:05] <generic> k
[07:05] <frogonwheels> trivial: hmm. might want to just ask the question - probably depends on what kind of programmer
[07:06] <frogonwheels> generic: you should see a poster tab
[07:06] <generic> ya i see let me check it
[07:06] <ubuntu__prinzi> he guys
[07:06] <frogonwheels> remember [save] button saves default  [ok] is for this time only.
[07:06] <ubuntu__prinzi> the spore creature editor is running on kubuntu
[07:06] <ubuntu__prinzi> with wine
[07:06] <ubuntu__prinzi> rocks xD
[07:06] <trivial> frogonwheels I have a problem in both xterm and konsole "request to switch into FULLSCREEN mode failed: too dumb terminal 'xterm' (no cursor move capabilitie)"
[07:07] <frogonwheels> trivial: what do you do to get that error?
[07:07] <trivial> futile attempt for months
[07:07] <trivial> I run a program
[07:07] <damien> NickPresta: it's saying that I need to register to talk to you, I'll go do that now
[07:07] <trivial> a database text based program
[07:08] <ubuntu__prinzi> with graphics
[07:08] <trivial> a database text based program..... was working fine in redhat 7.x but bombs out in kubuntu
[07:08] <trivial> also been getting utf-8 font problems
[07:08] <frogonwheels> trivial: it's either a termcap problem with your program - or perhaps you need to change what emulation you use.
[07:09] <trivial> I tried konsole and tried to tweak it but no luck..... so i tried xterm and its the same
[07:09] <trivial> I think it has been happening in debian as well
[07:10] <trivial> all debian and kubuntu/ubuntu ......anything that is a derivative of debian
[07:10] <trivial> perhaps xbuntu as well
[07:10] <frogonwheels> trivial: possibly there's a license issue so not compiled in?
[07:11] <trivial> it compile fine HAHAHA
[07:11] <trivial> just cannot run       "HEllo WORLD"
[07:11] <frogonwheels> trivial: no -i mean the extensions required to do the graphics.  just a theory.
[07:11] <trivial> its not graphics
[07:11] <trivial> it works fine in redhat 7.x
[07:12] <trivial> its something with the new terminal konsole and xterm
[07:12] <frogonwheels> trivial: nfi.  curses version?
[07:12] <trivial> nfi?
[07:12] <frogonwheels> No Idea
[07:12] <trivial> what is nfi?
[07:12] <trivial> no fscking idea?
[07:12] <frogonwheels> nfi = no .. idea
[07:13] <trivial> lol
[07:13] <trivial> c/c++ works fine under konsole and xterm
[07:14] <generic> wait am trying
[07:14] <trivial> oh must downgrade and keep that redhat 7.x as a backup for my database/mysql/ text based app as well as the gtk/mysql version
[07:15] <frogonwheels> trivial: you could always alien the red-hat package and see if it's xterm or related libraries
[07:15] <trivial> alien the red-hat package?
[07:15] <frogonwheels> alien xterm*.rpm
[07:15] <trivial> what do you mean by "alien the red-hat package?"
[07:16] <frogonwheels> apt-get install alien
[07:16] <trivial> so install the xterm that comes with redhat into kubuntu?
[07:16] <frogonwheels> worth a try :)
[07:16] <trivial> dpkg -i ?
[07:16] <frogonwheels> yup
[07:17] <trivial> hmmmm sounds interesting but you sure it wont fsck up the puter?
[07:17] <trivial> is there a tar version of xterm too?
[07:17] <frogonwheels> possibly.
[07:17] <frogonwheels> I suggested xterm rather than kterm...
[07:18] <frogonwheels> uninstall xterm first of course..
[07:18] <frogonwheels> then try installing the redhat package.
[07:18] <frogonwheels> it's pretty safe.
[07:18] <trivial> hey that sounds interesting letme try that and see if my X-windows bombs or not
[07:18] <trivial> LOL
[07:18] <frogonwheels> probably safer doing it that way than installing a tarball
[07:18] <trivial> ok thanks
[07:18] <trivial> later
[07:19] <frogonwheels> won't bomb X - you're only installing one package.. an exe and some man pages etc
[07:27] <navetz_> what is some good voice recording software I can download?
[07:29] <flaccid> !info audacity
[07:29] <navetz_> also is there software that allows you to record your voice and a video of your desktop at the same time?
[07:30] <navetz_> flaccid: thanks.
[07:34] <flaccid> not sure on the second one, but i would say there is
[07:34] <vengeance> I have a problem with kernel upgrades (Hardy, 16 works, can't get 17-19 to work) and LUKS encrypted root file system. 17-19 won't take the password for the encrypted volume and thus won't continue booting. Anyone?
 The entries in grub's menu.lst for each of the kernels has identical options (/dev/mapper...) (other than the rev number, of course)
 /etc/crypttab has the right information (UUID, etc.)
[07:44] <frogonwheels> navetz_: look inthe packages
[07:44] <frogonwheels> navetz_:  krecordmydesktop   (would you believe)
[07:46] <navetz_> frogonwheels: thanks.
[07:47] <kakalto> upgrading dapper to hardy, got to the "sudo do-release-upgrade" stage and it says there is no new version available =(
[07:55] <generic> fronnwheels its done thanks
[07:56] <frogonwheels> did it work?
[07:57] <remfarkas> hi all
[07:59] <kakalto> I can't believe this channel is still just as dead, years on.
[07:59] <kakalto> hi, remfarkas.
[07:59] <remfarkas> is it? ^^
[07:59] <remfarkas> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-56195.html
[08:00] <remfarkas> i would like to ask if...
[08:00] <remfarkas> does it work, what the first poster wrote?
[08:01] <Danger_XXX> hi
[08:01] <remfarkas> i would like to create repo disk from my debs
[08:01] <remfarkas> hi
[08:02] <Danger_XXX> is there any driver for Conexant HSF modem for Kubuntu?
[08:03] <kakalto> remfarkas: my guess is that the first poster wouldn't have said it if he didn't know what he was talking about :-)
[08:03] <kakalto> remfarkas: in short, yes.
[08:03] <remfarkas> ^^ in short: thanks
[08:04] <Danger_XXX> help plz
[08:04] <remfarkas> i dont know, did u search google for it?
[08:04] <remfarkas> or forums?
[08:05] <kakalto> Danger_XXX: I found something that helps it to work in Dapper?
[08:06] <remfarkas> probably it should work for hardy also
[08:06] <Danger_XXX> link plz
[08:07] <vengeance> (LUKS/encrypted-root problem) Okay, no one has any ideas. I kinda figured, since I couldn't find anything in the forums. Can anyone point me to some place that might help me?
[08:07] <Danger_XXX> kakalto, what did you find?
[08:08] <ahsan> Danger: what is the problem?
[08:08] <ahsan> I just joined
[08:09] <kakalto> Danger_XXX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190728
[08:09] <kakalto> ahsan: Conexant HSF Modem
[08:09] <Danger_XXX> internal modem does not work on Kubuntu
[08:09] <ahsan> k
[08:09]  * kakalto tried to use an internal 56k modem, gave up and got broadband
[08:13] <Danger_XXX> Download the following files:
[08:13] <Danger_XXX> modem-hsfpci.tar.bz2 from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemH...hsfpci.tar.bz2 ---this link doesnt work
[08:15] <stdin> Danger_XXX: click the link rather than copping it
[08:15] <Danger_XXX> i am clicking
[08:16] <kakalto> stdin: the actual link is bad >.>
[08:16] <stdin> I can download it fine
[08:17] <stdin> hold on
[08:17] <kakalto> Danger_XXX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[08:17] <stdin> no, it doesn't :p
[08:17] <theFATMAN> dn pǝssǝɯ sı ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ llɐ 'dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
[08:17] <NickPresta> theFATMAN, very funny ;)
[08:17] <stdin> theFATMAN: -offtopic is a better place to show off ;)
[08:17] <StultusApparatus> theFATMAN: >_>
[08:17] <theFATMAN> woops, i thought this was, srry
[08:18]  * stdin goes to fix his http proxy
[08:18] <theFATMAN> (: uıpʇs sʞuɐɥʇ
[08:19] <ahsan> Danger: you are on the right track
[08:19] <ahsan> Danger:http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
[08:20] <ahsan> or just have a look at this page
[08:20] <ahsan> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[08:20] <Danger_XXX> thanks ahsan
[08:21] <ahsan> np
[08:21] <remfarkas> hm... is there any way i can download ubuntu packages with dependencies under linux, using my own sources.list?
[08:21] <remfarkas> under windows..
[08:22] <ahsan> Danger: here s a driver claimed to work, but i havent tested it myself so i cant confirm if it works or not.
[08:22] <ahsan> http://ubuntuconexant.williamts99.com/modem-hsfpci.tar.bz2
[08:23] <redcoke> modem issues huh
[08:23] <ahsan> yeah
[08:23] <ahsan> any one tried any wimax service so far?
[08:24] <redcoke> nope i just finaly got my damn wireless card to recognize
[08:24] <Danger_XXX> ahsan last link is invalid
[08:24] <ahsan> hmmm
[08:25] <Danger_XXX> thank u I am going to check istalled drivers
[08:26] <Danger_XXX> bye
[08:26] <ahsan> np
[08:26] <ahsan> wimax is weird
[08:26] <ahsan> good at times
[08:26] <ahsan> gives me 4 MB througput throughout the city
[08:26] <ahsan> but there are certain dead spans
[08:26] <ahsan> dropouts
[08:27] <ahsan> random but brief loss of connectivity
[08:27] <ahsan> i was wondering if something is wrong with the wimax reciever
[08:27] <ahsan> any one here has any experience with wimax?
[08:30] <vengeance> Last try for the night: Anyone know when it would be a good time to look for a LUKS encryption guru?
[08:39] <redcoke> so what good with any one
[08:40] <remfarkas> trying to bring home packages from a win machine -.-
[08:47] <vengeance> Oh, well. Thanks anyway.
[08:59] <anethum_a> something wierd keeps happening to dolphin with me
[09:00] <anethum_a> when i hover over some icons of stuff i get this message:
[09:00] <anethum_a> The desktop entry file
[09:00] <anethum_a> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[09:00] <anethum_a> has an invalid menu entry
[09:00] <anethum_a> addAsPodcast.
[09:01] <anethum_a> whoops, sorry for the retarded pasting
[09:01] <pulaski> Hello,  I'm about to upgrade the the new 8.04 hardy heron distribution from my up-to-date 7.10 using Adept Updater.  I know a minimum of 384MB or ram when upgrading from the live CD.  My box is an older Pentium II 450mhz with precisely 384MB of ram.  I would like to proceed with the update.  Can anyone offer any caveats given my the nature of my box?
[09:01] <anethum_a> i guess i should just delete that file, huh?
[09:01] <remfarkas> for me delphin always says when i am mounting usb, that it has a different owner ^^
[09:02] <remfarkas> caveats?
[09:03] <pulaski> remfarkas: caveats = warnings or other suggestions
[09:03] <remfarkas> thx ^^
[09:04] <remfarkas> well, kubuntu may need heavy resources
[09:04] <anethum_a> haha, i answered my own question on IRC, that was a first
[09:04] <remfarkas> u should give a try to xubuntu
[09:04] <oilinki> please help me. I have a major problem. I have an kubuntu hardy on desktop-server. using linux raid1 and xfs. yesterday I did an dist-upgrade and after some time the server died. now when I try to boot I get the bios messages and then nothing at all.
[09:04] <remfarkas> :D
[09:05] <oilinki> could this be that the grub is corrupted or something else? what could be a cure for the computer?
[09:05] <pulaski> remfarkas: Thanks for the tip.  let me look for a link with more info on xubuntu.
[09:05] <remfarkas> i am not familiar with raid stuff
[09:06] <remfarkas> i can so far tell, xfce is a desktop manager which uses a few amount of resources, and based on gnome
[09:06] <remfarkas> *is based
[09:08] <pulaski> remfarkas: Thanks.  I have already grabbed xfce and I can choose between sessions of kde or xfce.  I reckon I'll be able to do the same with the distro upgrade eh?
[09:08] <remfarkas> probably u will be able
[09:08] <oilinki> should I just try to boot with a live-cd and do the fsck? I'm quite afraid to loose the data on the disks.
[09:10] <oilinki> I do have backups on another disk for most of the data, but some could not fit on it due lack of disk space on the external drive.
[09:14] <pulaski> remfarkas: Lookin' good to go ahead with the update via Adept Updater.  Just on lawt question.  I recently put on a new Sound Blaster card.  Kubuntu
[09:15] <anethum_a> i love kubuntu
[09:16] <anethum_a> lol, sorry, had a moment there
[09:17] <eagles0513875> anethum_a: we all have those where we love kubuntu
[09:18] <remfarkas> dunno, i have an als 400 sound card, i am not familiar with soundblasters
[09:19] <pulaski> remfarkas: Kubuntu didn't have a driver for this new card though it did have a driver for my previous Sound Blaster.  Anyway I grabbed a beta linux driver from Creative and managed to build from source despite some ugly EULAs.  Kubuntue balked at first but I just went ahead an told kubuntu to overlook this non-free driver.  Remfarkas, Shall I keep this driver or get rid of it before proceeding with the upgrade?
[09:22] <pulaski> remfarkas: Ok, Thanks for your time tonight,  I'm going to proceed with the update leaving my new driver as is.  I can always dump it later if it poses a problem. Thanks again.  See you later.
[09:22] <remfarkas> good luck :)
[09:31] <suk4> hola mu weno dias
[09:31] <suk4> alguien me puede hechar un cable¿
[09:32] <suk4> he instalado kubuntu, pa probar que tal esta y al descargarme el controlador grafico me ha dado un problema y no se ha instalado
[09:32] <suk4> creo....
[09:32] <remfarkas> english?
[09:33] <suk4> he buscado por adept y he encontrado varios drivers a instalar, pero el problema es que no se qual instalar...
[09:33] <suk4> nops..
[09:34] <suk4> it's only inglis the chanel
[09:34] <remfarkas> lol
[09:34] <TMPSAP> okay im really angry
[09:35] <TMPSAP> sometimes when I disable my NIC in networkmanager it refuses to re-activate it, or if I remove networkmanager completly its the same deal... FORCING me to uninstall the entire os
[09:35] <TMPSAP> can someone PLEASE tell me how to re-active your ***** NIC in a console?
[09:36] <TMPSAP> "press reactive" NIC is actived, SPLIT SECOND later, nic is deactivated - fix - re-install the entire os
[09:37] <TMPSAP> also when I remove networkmanager the entire system dies (network) but how is that possible? clearly networkmanager is just a frontend? but.. when I go into settings all of my nics are deactivaed and they are impssoble to re-activate
[09:37] <TMPSAP> is there a console command to re-activate your NICS instead of that "clever-genius-dev" who made that application in the first place?
[09:38] <remfarkas> ouch, sry, i dont know much about those things..
[09:39] <remfarkas> i was happy, to be able to install ndiswrapper to a friends laptop
[09:39] <TMPSAP> hi remfarkas, well thanks for responding, its indeed annoying :)
[09:57] <Bocha> greetings, community
[09:58] <Bocha> Does anyone use KDE4 version of 8.04 (Hardy, right?)
[09:58] <Bocha> oh, I see, another channel...
[10:02] <anethum_a> g'night guys! im out
[10:24] <lander> ghello from kubutnu , found the box in teh basement
[10:24] <lander> poerfect i wrtited teh pasword on it
[10:25] <lg188> i"m aving some troble ith tha desktop card
[10:25] <lg188> the*
[10:25] <lg188> it wont work
[10:26] <lg188> is see some drivers for windows but not for linux
[10:26] <remfarkas> graphics card?
[10:32] <lg188> remfarkas: nope for "wireless G desktop Card"
[10:33] <remfarkas> whats the chipset?
[10:34] <lg188> euh ...
[10:34] <lg188> let me chek the box
[10:34] <lg188> remfarkas: nothing about shipset on it
[10:36] <remfarkas> u should know it if u want to install
[10:39] <thekro> hi - can anyone help me with my knetworkmanager and wi-fi issues (Dell Latitude laptop)
[10:40] <remfarkas> wifi card chipset?
[10:41] <Accidus> For some reason my headphones stopped working
[10:41] <Accidus> I'm using Kubuntu
[10:41] <lg188> remfarkas: yes wifi
[10:42] <Accidus> I've tried both the system->sound system menu
[10:42] <Accidus> and the KMIx app.
[10:42] <Accidus> But it still doesn't work...
[10:43] <thekro> Intel PRO/Wireless 6945 AG/AGN
[10:43] <thekro> driver iwl6945
[10:43] <remfarkas> ok, but whats the chipset?
[10:44] <thekro> where do i find that out?
[10:44] <remfarkas> google it
[10:44] <remfarkas> ur pc
[10:47] <thekro> all the sites I find just say intel 4965
[10:47] <thekro> 6945 even
[10:48] <trunda> u
[10:48] <remfarkas> most wfifis can be installed with ndiswrapper (i did it with my pal's laptop)
[10:48] <thekro> no - really 4965 - typoed the first time
[10:49] <thekro> well, i'm picking up the card
[10:49] <thekro> and i'm connecting, but it's assigning an IPv6 address
[10:49] <thekro> i've tried disabling IPv6 but it's still doing it
[10:52] <thekro> so i should not use the driver i have at the moment, and use ndiswrapper instead?
[10:53] <thekro> (driver is iwl4965, as well)
[10:53] <remfarkas> dunno.. what i had to do was to copy 2 files from the windows based wifi drivers, install ndiswrapper
[10:53] <remfarkas> the .inf and .sys files
[10:54] <thekro> ok - before you did that, was the system picking the card up at all?
[10:55] <remfarkas> nope, it told me that the driver can be fetched but it did not do that at all
[10:57] <thekro> this seems to be a config problem with connecting to the wifi access point/configuring the IP address
[10:57] <thekro> which i'd think KNetworkManager should be able to sort out
[10:58] <remfarkas> dunno.. with ndiswrapper, it automatically connected to the network
[10:58] <remfarkas> after a reboot
[10:59] <araizen> does anyone know how to switch back to kde 3.5 if you've installed kubuntu with kde 4?
[11:01] <Bocha> There probably are some reasons to make KDE4 noth the package in Kubuntu but the separate distro.
[11:01] <Bocha> There must be some very hard stuff, wich is the reason not to do this.
[11:02] <frogonwheels> araizen: can't you just change your session type?
[11:02] <Bocha> :-)
[11:02] <araizen> okay, so how do i change it without reinstalling from the kubuntu 3.5 cd?
[11:02] <araizen> i don't have to install anything first?
[11:02] <frogonwheels> araizen: for a start - make sure all the kde3.5 stuff is installed - use your fav manager.
[11:02] <frogonwheels> it's probably already installed - but check.
[11:03] <frogonwheels> then from kdm you can select a different session type
[11:03] <frogonwheels> (if it's not in the list, then you'll need to install the base files.. um kdebase? or something liket hat)
[11:03] <frogonwheels> araizen: kpackagemanger or adept or aptitude (my package manager of choice)
[11:04] <araizen> what do i install with apt-get
[11:04] <remfarkas> maybe u should swith to a gnome or what first
[11:04] <araizen> just a sec
[11:04] <Bocha> or console :-)
[11:04] <remfarkas> so no kde based app is running
[11:05] <remfarkas> but that way he is able to use irc
[11:05] <remfarkas> for example
[11:05] <Bocha> what way?
[11:05] <remfarkas> switching to gnome
[11:05] <Bocha> he can use xchat or irssi so no kde is required
[11:06] <remfarkas> ok, i dont know those
[11:06] <Bocha> xchat is what I use since 2003
[11:06] <Bocha> and irssi is what I use on non-graphical systems
[11:06] <Bocha> I also use irssi on Solaris sometimes
[11:07] <Bocha> pretty easy to compile
[11:07] <remfarkas> i didnot compile many things yet ^^
[11:07] <Bocha> :-)
[11:07] <tappulii> hiya folks. I upgraded from feisty to gutsy and then to hardy, and now I got several problems
[11:07] <tappulii> can anyone give a hand?
[11:07] <Bocha> I started from FreeBSD so I've compiled billions of apps :-)
[11:08] <thekro> what problems, tappulli?
[11:08] <Bocha> tappulii, like what?
[11:08] <remfarkas> uhu, suse, xubuntu
[11:08] <remfarkas> and atm i am trying to use my kubuntu offline
[11:08] <tappulii> well, many problems. Major suckage is losing sound
[11:08] <tappulii> bash is also behaving strangely
[11:08] <tappulii> I've got no wallpaper
[11:08] <remfarkas> searching for a way to download the repository :D
[11:09] <tappulii> and the loading screen of kde is not correct (when it loads different services)
[11:09] <Bocha> I've updated from gutsy to hardy and didn't like what I saw, so I've reinstalled it from scratch
[11:09] <tappulii> and as a topping of the cake, my tv-card is still not working :( (well, I couldn't get it to work with feisty or gutsy either)
[11:09] <remfarkas> me from dapper to edgy, and i have now a clear edgy since 2 years
[11:10] <remfarkas> but i dont have internet and i am trying to make repository disk
[11:10] <Bocha> tappulii, what is your tvcard chip?
[11:10] <tappulii> terratech premium 2300
[11:10] <Bocha> Is that a chip or a board?
[11:10] <tappulii> so, it's supported hardware, but maybe I'm missing some package?
[11:11] <Bocha> is it detected as video4linux device?
[11:11] <Bocha> is it detected anyhow anyway?
[11:11] <tappulii> I haven't seen it either in dmesg or lspci
[11:11] <tappulii> and my konsole/bash problem: "dmesg | grep something"
[11:11] <tappulii> returns "bash:  grep: command not found"
[11:11] <Bocha> well, if there is no card in lspci, it is more likely not a software trouble
[11:12] <Bocha> tappulii, is grep installed ?
[11:12] <tappulii> I bought the card second-hand, so it might be broken
[11:12] <tappulii> yup, grep is installed
[11:12] <Bocha> It looks like it is.
[11:12] <Bocha> ('bout card)
[11:12] <tappulii> it returns: "Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]..."
[11:13] <Bocha> That's odd
[11:13] <Bocha> does any other command works after | in bash?
[11:13] <tappulii> usually no
[11:13] <tappulii> but sometimes I get error, i.e. the dmesg | grep something works
[11:13] <Bocha> maybe some configs in your ~/ are filled with crap?
[11:13] <tappulii> could be, I'm not very familiar with them
[11:14] <Bocha> there are some bash-related configs in your ~/ directory
[11:14] <Bocha> try deleting them
[11:14] <tappulii> any other besides the stuff in .bash?
[11:15] <tappulii> ups, sorry, any other besides .bash starting stuff?
[11:15] <remfarkas> do u know any way i can download repository dvd for hardy?
[11:15] <Assurbanipal> hi guys... i have kubuntu and compiled the 2.6.25 kernel with a program called kernelchek, but for some reason it doesnt seem to work correctly,got no sound and network...
[11:15] <Assurbanipal> can someone help?
[11:15] <remfarkas> or to download all the repository? :P
[11:16] <tappulii> I just deleted
[11:16] <tappulii> .bash starting stuff and restarted
[11:16] <tappulii> konsole
[11:16] <remfarkas> i am trying to download it with wget but no luck
[11:16] <tappulii> well, so far so good
[11:17] <Bocha> ?
[11:17] <tappulii> i.e. bash seems to work
[11:17] <Bocha> so the problem was solved, no?
[11:17] <tappulii> ah, no :(
[11:18] <tappulii> repeated itself again
[11:18] <Bocha> very strange, how about reintalling bash?
[11:18] <Bocha> (sounds stupid)
[11:19] <tappulii> well, I'm eager to try anything that might solve the problem
[11:20] <Bocha> Allso check if the problem repeats itself in any other shell, like run csh from the konsole and try grepping there
[11:24] <tappulii> reinstalling bash with adept manager didn't work :(, and csh has the same problem :(
[11:27] <Bocha> tappulii, ok, try running xterm and try grepping in it
[11:28] <Bocha> maybe it is Konsole's problem, not bash's if csh also doesn't work
[11:28] <tappulii> Bocha: same problem with xterm
[11:28] <tappulii> :(
[11:29] <Bocha> there's something with | in your system
[11:29] <Bocha> just 'dunno what.../
[11:29] <tappulii> could it be language related? I've got finnish keyboard even though I'm using english kubuntu?
[11:30] <Bocha> hardly, I use russian keyboard and no problem with grep
[11:30] <tappulii> heh, it would be nice if I could reinstall | on my system ;))
[11:31] <Bocha> bocha@notebook:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep name
[11:31] <Bocha> nameserver 81.1....
[11:31] <Bocha> seems to work
[11:32] <Dillizar> tappulii: you want to change the language on your kubuntu?
[11:32] <tappulii> Dillizar: not really, I prefer english
[11:32] <Bocha> no, we fight | problem
[11:32] <Dillizar> me to :D
[11:48] <tappulii> Bocha or Dillizer, any ideas? Maybe we could check my sound problem?
[11:49] <Bocha> what about it?
[11:49] <tappulii> I hear no sound
[11:49] <Bocha> ^-)))) i know that
[11:49] <tappulii> but no program is complaining, i.e. playing music with Amarok works fine, except that I don't hear anything
[11:50] <remfarkas> play a flute while listening music :P
[11:50] <tappulii> At some point I did hear music from inside my computer but not from my speakers
[11:52] <Bocha> my advice, never tell this to your doctor
[11:52] <tappulii> files /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 existed
[11:52] <Bocha> what does KDE Info Center says about your sound?
[11:52] <tappulii> do you mean the system settings?
[11:53] <Bocha> K - System - KInfoCenter
[11:53] <tappulii> ah, got it
[11:54] <tappulii> installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation, card config: HDA Intel at 0xfebf8000 irq 21, audio devices: 0: AD198x Analog (DUPLEX)
[11:54] <lg188> o crappy hardware
[11:55] <Bocha> but still it is detected
[11:55] <Bocha> waht input is specified in KMix ?
[11:55] <lg188> it won't get activated
[11:55] <lazarus477> Ello folks. Simple question.  How do I boot into single user mode in latest kubuntu?
[11:55] <tappulii> HDA Intel
[11:56] <tappulii> Bocha: or do you mean something else?
[11:56] <flaccid> lazarus477: add 'single' to the boot param in grub by type 'e' for edit
[11:56] <Accidus> Hmmm... This doesn't work.
[11:56] <Bocha> In the first section of KMix screen there are sound sources listed and a green ligh above them
[11:56] <tappulii> it has got IEC958 as the only green channel
[11:57] <Bocha> is every needed light active?
[11:57] <Accidus> I've set up two directories, lets call them ~/sources and ~/packages/ver1/
[11:57] <Bocha> How about front?
[11:57] <Bocha> front must be active to
[11:57] <Accidus> cwd = ~/sources
[11:57] <Accidus> and $TEXFORMATS = ~/packages/ver1
[11:57] <lg188> how is isntall comand sudu apt-get ""
[11:57] <tappulii> Front Mic Boost and Mic Boost are on
[11:58] <lazarus477> thanks
[11:58] <tappulii> three Captures are not
[11:58] <Accidus> Now I'm compiling a file in ~/sources that has a \usepackage{test}, when test.sty sits in ~/packages/ver1
[11:58] <Accidus> But latex doesn't find it
[11:58] <Bocha> Is Master also green?
[11:58] <tappulii> yes
[11:58] <Dillizar> wait the drivers are the same for ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[11:59] <Bocha> Dillizar, shure
[11:59] <Bocha> tappulii, it must be output not input, pardon my bad
[11:59] <Accidus> Damn
[11:59] <Accidus> Wrong window
[11:59] <lg188> hello ?
[12:00] <Bocha> ?
[12:00] <Bocha> hello world?
[12:00] <Dillizar> Bocha: and all linuxs
[12:00] <Bocha> Dillizar, don't know about all linuxs
[12:00] <Bocha> must be, but who knows....
[12:00] <tappulii> Bocha: well, everything is green, but no sound :(
[12:00] <ActionParsni1> hey all
[12:00] <lg188> no answers
[12:00]  * Bocha is very suspicious about Linux
[12:01] <ActionParsni1> Bocha: wassup man?
[12:01]  * Dillizar 2 
[12:01] <Dillizar> :D
[12:01] <Bocha> lg188, I saw no question
[12:01] <flaccid> lol
[12:01] <ActionParsni1> sup flaccid, any joy with your printing?
[12:01] <Bocha> ActionParsni1, ok, how r u ?
[12:01] <flaccid> printing?
[12:01] <flaccid> oh that
[12:01] <lg188> Bocha: how you get an hardware in that computer and let it work ?
[12:01] <ActionParsni1> Bocha: just chilling now work is quiet
[12:01] <Bocha> tappulii, that's really odd, but I saw it already
[12:02] <flaccid> lol no as if people in ##windows know anything anyway
[12:02] <Bocha> the problem was with nVidia's HDA
[12:02] <Bocha> on one notebook from america
[12:02] <flaccid> ActionParsni1: i just created a user account on the server although i was trying to avoid that etc.
[12:02] <tappulii> Bocha: I could give a bit more background. I think the tv-card also has some sound in it
[12:02] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: if it doesnt have a wizard, I can't do it ;)
[12:02] <flaccid> lol
[12:02] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: yeah, thought you'd have to
[12:02] <flaccid> defeats the purpose of permissions etc.
[12:03] <flaccid> mind you i have had guest working correctly somehow in the past
[12:03] <tappulii> Bocha: and that's the sound I heard from inside computer at some point. I did find some launchpad bug about multiple sound "cards" and wrong load order
[12:03] <Bocha> lg188, in which one?
[12:03] <lg188> |
[12:03] <lg188> !dutch
[12:03] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: well the account enables printing and permissions to the printer. How do you mean?
[12:03] <Bocha> tappulii, hmmm.... possibly....
[12:03] <flaccid> fyi people: common problem , different video drivers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605
[12:04] <flaccid> ActionParsni1: no it doesn't. the share is set so everyone can use...
[12:04] <flaccid> everyone = anyone
[12:04] <tappulii> Bocha: and one of the things that someone did to solve it was removing /dev/dsp and linking /dev/dsp1 to /dev/dsp
[12:04] <Bocha> tappulii, is that really possible?
[12:04] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: but having an account to allow printing is more secure than using the "everyone" account
[12:04] <tappulii> Bocha: which I tried, since I'm desperate :). But that didn't work either :(
[12:04] <flaccid> ActionParsni1: no its not.
[12:04] <flaccid> :)
[12:04] <Bocha> this linux.... oh...
[12:04] <tappulii> and nowadays aplay -l shows only Intel HDA (but two entries for it)
[12:05] <Bocha> tappulii, thats right, dsp and dsp1 are listed
[12:05] <Bocha> and they both are HDAs
[12:05] <administrator_> who are you ?
[12:05] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: if you use the everyone group then its all users including guest
[12:05] <flaccid> well security is irrelevant. my LAN is only accessible and im happy for anyone to print on it. except of course it didn't allow despite configuring it that way.
[12:05] <flaccid> yes correct, so why is guest dissalllowed?
[12:05] <administrator_> what do you say?
[12:05] <flaccid> etc....
[12:05] <administrator_> oh
[12:06] <tappulii> Bocha: yikes :). so I suppose it went there from bad to worse
[12:06] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: no idea, maybe its not in the group but i think it is.
[12:06] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: I see your point though
[12:06] <Bocha> administrator_, greetings. This is Earth. You?
[12:06] <flaccid> ActionParsni1: anothing thing which is irrelevant...
[12:06] <administrator_> yes
[12:06] <administrator_> are you?
[12:06] <administrator_> where are you?
[12:06] <Bocha> definitly
[12:07] <administrator_> ??
[12:07] <Bocha> Somewhere in Russia
[12:07] <administrator_> oh  i will go
[12:07] <administrator_> bye
[12:07] <Bocha> have a nice day, buddy
[12:08] <Bocha> (I'm not your buddy, friend, he is not your friend, gut, I'm not your guy, buddy, and so on...)
[12:14] <flaccid_> sorry i ran out of battery
[12:14] <flaccid_> where did ActionParsnip go hmm
[12:15] <Assurbanipal> is there a way to synchronize wm5 devices with kontact?
[12:15] <Assurbanipal> or any other program in kde?
[12:16] <Bocha> no. should be?
[12:16] <flaccid_> whats wm5?
[12:17] <Bocha> Windoze mobile
[12:17] <Assurbanipal> windows mobile 5
[12:17] <Assurbanipal> because i need to sync my contacts..
[12:18] <Bocha> Assurbanipal, use palm
[12:18] <Bocha> not wm5
[12:18] <Bocha> and be happy
[12:19] <flaccid_> i thought thats an operating system, not an application
[12:19] <flaccid> im confused Assurbanipal
[12:19] <Bocha> flaccid, in microsoft they try not to devide this things and teach users not to devide them too
[12:20] <flaccid> true
[12:20] <Bocha> Look at how MS integrates mediaplayer and explorer into the system
[12:20] <flaccid> its truly a weird question. if it involves outlook then i would say answer is 'no'.
[12:20] <Bocha> Outlook Express is almost there too
[12:20] <eagles0513875> !ot
[12:20] <Assurbanipal> i do not have a palm. i have a wm5 device and not goin to change it for a long time
[12:20] <flaccid> yeah im aware of the strategies
[12:21] <eagles0513875> flaccid: Bocha this is off topic guys
[12:21] <flaccid> you just got here eagles0513875
[12:21] <Bocha> Right, you see? involves outlook. Shouldn't at all, but still does
[12:21] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:21] <flaccid> we are still trying to understand the question, which you missed eagles0513875
[12:21] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[12:21] <eagles0513875> ill stfu u then
[12:21] <flaccid> nah not your fault
[12:22] <flaccid> lol its microsoft fault all the way!
[12:22] <flaccid> now i'll shutup
[12:22] <Bocha> why should WM5 care if I use Kontact or whatever, but it doesn't even ask, it searches for outlook and doesn't work is search fails
[12:22] <flaccid> well i don't even know what protocol or data source is wanting to be synched...
[12:23] <Bocha> flaccid, furthermore, MS wouldn't tell you, even if you ask
[12:23] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:23] <eagles0513875> everything is msfts fault
[12:23] <Bocha> right
[12:23] <flaccid> well i wouldn't go that far until something of substance is confirmed
[12:23]  * flaccid looks at Assurbanipal
[12:24] <Conundrum_> !root
[12:32] <pc_> hey
[12:32] <flaccid> !hi
[12:33] <pc_> i have a probleme when i want conect me on my other machine via SSH
[12:33] <pc_> can u help me?
[12:33] <flaccid> ok
[12:34] <flaccid> if you tell us the problem..
[12:34] <pc_> excuse me but im french and do u know the french version of this irc lol?
[12:35] <flaccid> !fr | pc_
[12:35] <home_> my friend lost his password :D is there any uneversal pass :D or how can he hack it :D
[12:35] <pc_> thanks!
[12:35] <pc_> bye
[12:35] <flaccid> cia0
[12:35] <flaccid> home_: negative
[12:35] <home_> lol
[12:35] <flaccid> linux is secure :)
[12:35] <Conundrum_> can't he login with a livecd?
[12:36] <Conundrum_> and use root to change the password
[12:36] <flaccid> no you cannot login with a livecd, but you can mount the disk from a livecd
[12:36] <Conundrum_> oops
[12:36] <Bocha> single-user mode is sufficient to change root's password
[12:36] <Bocha> Linux (lie other unixes) is remotly secure
[12:36] <flaccid> i believe single user mode asks for root password now, but i could be wrong..
[12:37] <home_> flaccid: but he has a older version and i dont have that CD
[12:37] <flaccid> home_: thats irrelevant
[12:37] <flaccid> last time i tried single, it prompted for root pass
[12:37] <Bocha> FreeBSD's s.u.m. does not
[12:37] <flaccid> yeah i use freebsd for server, this is not freebsd
[12:37] <Bocha> if you have a physical access to the machine, you got to be root
[12:38] <flaccid> sum ?
[12:38] <Bocha> single user mode
[12:38] <flaccid> oh single user mode
[12:38] <flaccid> yeah
[12:38] <flaccid> not on ubuntu last time it tried, but i could be wrong and it could be version dependent..
[12:38] <flaccid> it-i
[12:39] <flaccid> sorry for flood. last time i tried it, i was asked for root password
[12:39] <Conundrum_> !vi
[12:39] <home_> flaccid: can i go to recovery mode and tyme passwd ******
[12:40] <Conundrum_> !vim
[12:40] <Conundrum_> anyone care to give me a quick primer on vim?
[12:40] <flaccid> home_: dont know sorry or what you mean even
[12:40] <flaccid> Conundrum_: try google, its quicker
[12:41] <home_> flaccid: is there a comand called passwd
[12:41] <home_> *command
[12:43] <flaccid> sure, thats how you change passwords
[12:43] <flaccid> see man passwd
[12:43] <home_> just type passwd (and then the new password
[12:44] <flaccid> yeah
[12:45] <home_> flaccid: :D i have some good news he doesnt remeber his username 2
[12:45] <home_> :D
[12:45] <flaccid> lol
[12:45] <flaccid> i guess that was sarcasm..
[12:45] <flaccid> who is the admin, you? lol :p
[12:46] <Bocha> Oh, I had great conversation with one admin lately
[12:46] <Bocha> too bad its offtop here
[12:46] <flaccid> i'd be happy to talk about it in the OT chan
[12:47] <home_> flaccid: we just found out that he has a linux on his laptop and we are trying to get it open :D
[12:47] <home_> adn he had it like 2-3 years
[12:48] <flaccid> lol. well im afraid this is kubuntu support, not a hacking chan etc.
[12:48] <home_> lol
[12:48] <flaccid> you might like to try ##linux or similar
[12:49] <home_> ah they hate me there
[12:49] <home_> :D
[12:49] <flaccid> haha
[12:49] <home_> and linux-help on undernet
[12:49] <home_> are not helping at all
[12:49] <flaccid> well lurkers are lurkers...
[12:50] <flaccid> seriously, try single user mode and if it doesn't ask for password then cool, otherwise you have no options left but brute force
[12:50] <home_> brake the laptop
[12:50] <home_> :D
[12:50] <flaccid> that won't help at all xD
[12:51] <home_> flaccid: is there a pdf with all of the linux commands
[12:51] <home_> :D
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> There are a lot of PDF quick guides out.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> none will have 'all' the linux commands. :)
[12:54] <flaccid> home_: no because linux is a kernel.
[12:56] <tzanger> good morning
[12:56] <tzanger> tell me, are anacron and cron both supposed to be running?
[12:56] <tzanger> ah, yes, yes they are
[12:56] <tzanger> cron calls anacron
[12:57] <tzanger> I love when I ask a question only to answer it myself 30 seconds later... doesn't matter how long I wait or what I look for beforehand... *sighs*
[12:58] <flaccid> haha
[12:58] <ActionParsni1> in KDE4 is there a system monitor widget like superkaramba?
[12:58] <flaccid> sorry parsnip, i ran out of battery before...
[12:59] <flaccid> try the #kubuntu-kde4 channel ActionParsni1
[12:59] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: np man, I had to split, some POS IBM server was going loopy
[12:59] <flaccid> nice
[12:59] <ActionParsni1> yeah stupid DSView access too :(
[13:03] <Accidus> Where can I find missing info files?
[13:04] <Accidus> For example, I want to install the 'info kpathsea' file...
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> Accidus: no idea man sorry
[13:06] <Accidus> Thanks :-\
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> someone else may be able to help
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> or try #ubuntu
[13:07] <Accidus> Thanks!
[13:18] <nigelumi> good morning everyone
[13:18] <nigelumi> looking for someone who can help with sasc-ng
[13:19] <nigelumi> anyone?
[13:20] <nigelumi> anyone at all? sasc-ng?
[13:20] <remfarkas> dont even know whats that
[13:21] <nigelumi> just know it needs to be installed for my tv card
[13:21] <tzanger> that's not true
[13:22] <tzanger> sasc-ng is for pirating satellite tv
[13:22] <filo1234> hi guys i have hardy, how can i have firefox2 in italian language?
[13:22] <nigelumi> for dvb-t?
[13:23] <tzanger> if your terrestrial content is encrypted and is supported by sasc, possibly, yes
[13:23] <tzanger> if you are trying to receive legitimate free tv, you don't need sasc.
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> filo1234:  there is a firefox-2 package you install
[13:29] <makaveli> l
[13:31] <ActionParsni1> sup mak
[13:34] <reel> .
[13:44] <danidani>  I would like to installa a linux distribuition with kde:  for a newbie it's better kubuntu or opensuse?
[13:44] <ActionParsni1> danidani: both are newb freindly
[13:44] <flaccid> you came into a kubuntu channel, so i'd say kubuntu :)
[13:45] <ActionParsni1> danidani: try both and run them for a few weeks apiece, see which youlike
[13:55] <Rioting_pacifist> !iptables
[13:55] <Rioting_pacifist> does iptables filter outbound trafic?
[13:56] <flaccid> yes
[13:56] <flaccid> it can if you want
[13:56] <flaccid> aint seen you for a while, Rioting_pacifist :)
[13:56] <lovre> is there any electronic circuit simulator for linux? Like electronic workbench or circuit maker for windows?
[13:56] <flaccid> lovre: not sure, but i know there is not much in that line of software at all :(
[13:56] <lovre> flaccid: yea :(
[13:57] <flaccid> yeah elec. mate of mine can't use linux as a result
[13:57] <lovre> flaccid: im trying to find anything for linux, just the simple simulations, with some digital and analog components...
[13:57] <flaccid> one sec i'll ask my mate
[13:59] <flaccid> um he is checking again lovre but at this stage all he can recommend is 'spice'
[13:59] <ds187> lovre: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-322499.html <-- perhaps that will help
[13:59] <flaccid> and also klogic for kde
[13:59] <flaccid> and also QUCS
[14:00] <Rioting_pacifist> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2765 < takes me back to GCSEs
[14:00] <flaccid> or easyspice, gnucap
[14:00] <ds187> lovre: http://ktechlab.org/ <-- ktechlab seems also nice
[14:00] <flaccid> thats about all he suggests good luck
[14:00] <Rioting_pacifist> but i have to say pen and papper ftw :P
[14:00] <lovre> flaccid: ok thank you
[14:01] <lovre> ds187: thx
[14:01] <flaccid> nice job ds187!
[14:02] <Rioting_pacifist> flaccid: i dunno ive been around, probly just not mentioned my flash bug :P
[14:02] <ds187> flaccid: just typed "electronic circuit simulator linux" into google, so all the credit goes to them :-)
[14:03] <flaccid> Rioting_pacifist: many of them :(
[14:03] <flaccid> ds187: true. well the problem is nothing matches against protel
[14:04] <Rioting_pacifist> 10 has a nasty no text on a dialog bug, so i could be signing my soul away everytime i click it, but changing to the OSS drivers fixed my main issues (suspend also works nicely now too :D) and after removing flgrx i can use 3d games too :D
[14:05] <Rioting_pacifist> dont suppose anybody knows how to find the backwards dependancies of a program (what depends on a library)?
[14:10] <des_> can i ask someone for a problem?
[14:11] <pietje_phuck> Is there a known problem with setting up the network with kde network manager?
[14:11] <pietje_phuck> des_: just sate your question
[14:11] <pietje_phuck> state even
[14:11] <Rioting_pacifist> !launchpad
[14:12] <Rioting_pacifist> i dont know of any i just know that NetworkManager has terrible memory leak
[14:14] <pietje_phuck> I have two network cards, it does not set the routes properly, nor does it let me disable one of the cards (wel it does, but it reverts back next time I start)
[14:14] <des_> I can compile with Ogre3D in C++. When i try to execute my program it freeze without errors after loading the window. How can I fix it? p.s. i compiled the hello world
[14:14] <pietje_phuck> I can do it in vi though
[14:16] <pietje_phuck> des_: does everything freeze?
[14:18] <trel> I have another... unrelated question...
[14:19] <trel> is there a UUID on NTFS partitions?
[14:19] <pietje_phuck> des_: I am just guessing but it looks like Ogre3D gives you an environment to run other aplications in
[14:20] <pietje_phuck> des_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[14:21] <pietje_phuck> first hit on the google search ;)
[14:21] <trel> or.. even better.. is there a way to make sure that drives are always mounted to the same /dev on boot up?
[14:22] <trel> I have 6 Hard drives, and everytime the system boots, they get assigned different /dev like /dev/sda, etc
[14:23] <trel> This makes it impossible to get their mountpoints right in /media
[14:25] <trel> I would rather try to get fstab to mount them using an ID, so that it doesn't matter which /dev/sd* they get assigned to on the next boot, but it seems there isn't a way to do that
[14:25] <pietje_phuck> trel: That must be anoying
[14:26] <trel> hehe.. yeah... tell me about it.. :-)
[14:27] <pietje_phuck> trel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[14:27] <pietje_phuck> Don't find anything there
[14:27] <llutz> Moin
[14:27] <trel> yeah.. I have been reading that...
[14:27] <pietje_phuck> But you could "label" the drives and mount them by the label
[14:29] <FoxIII> !fstab
[14:30] <pietje_phuck> FoxIII: his problem is the assignment in /dev not fstab
[14:31] <FoxIII> pierre_, ah okay. Sorry. Thought that may have helped. I'll keep quiet. lol
[14:32] <kblin> hi folks
[14:32] <trel> it might.. if I can mount then another way.. I am looking at the label and UUID ways right now... but.. I would like to see if I can get the drives to be detected in the same order every boot
[14:33] <Rioting_pacifist> has anybody here got gnome, kde & firefox installed
[14:33] <pietje_phuck> lol, just rm them and create them manually
[14:34] <kblin> I'm trying to get firefox3 to start a new message when clicking on an email link, but I'd like to use the kmail running in kontact for it, any ideas on how to best do that?
[14:34] <kblin> ah, ok,  kmail email@address.org works fine
[14:44] <generic> What are the softwares use for private/secure file sharing in Ubuntu??
[14:44] <pietje_phuck> generic: sftp?
[14:45] <pietje_phuck> generic: scp
[14:46] <generic> what are other softwares?
[14:47] <pietje_phuck> generic: ktorrent maybe?
[14:48] <generic> ok ,i see
[14:48] <kblin> samba? :)
[14:49] <pietje_phuck> lol
[14:49] <kblin> depends on if you want to share on the local network or not
[14:49] <generic> i now ,but its not much secure
[14:50] <kblin> if both sides support unix extensions and encryption, it's pretty secure
[14:50] <kblin> http://www.sambaxp.org/files/SambaXP2008-DATA/01-04-Jeremy_Allison-encryption.pdf
[14:50] <kblin> http://www.sambaxp.org/files/SambaXP2008-AUDIO/01-04-Allison_SMB_encryption.ogg
[14:50] <pietje_phuck> putty used to work well on windoze
[14:51] <Rioting_pacifist> generic are we talking perminant sharing or jsut a one off?
[14:51] <kblin> putty runs on linux as well :)
[14:51] <pietje_phuck> lol under wine?
[14:51] <kblin> pietje_phuck: well, I was talking about native, but it'll work on wine of course
[14:51] <generic> sure    perminent sharing
[14:52] <kblin> pietje_phuck: aptitude show putty
[14:52] <pietje_phuck> lol I did not know that
[14:52] <kblin> pietje_phuck: I've deployed that for some users who were used to putty and didn't get the concept of doing "ssh address" on the command line
[14:53] <pietje_phuck> great idea
[14:53] <pietje_phuck> let them use tools they understand
[14:54] <kblin> well, yeah. users care about programs, not about the OS
[14:54] <lg188> is there a comando to show all hardware ?
[14:54] <lg188> plugged in ?
[14:54] <kblin> generic: and I guess you're talking about "over the internet"
[14:55] <kblin> lg188: not that I'm aware of. but "lspci" and "lsusb" should get most of it
[14:55] <pietje_phuck> They just want to do their job, we all have our favourite editors as wel (please this is not an invite for an editor war)
[14:55] <generic> i m taking about internel sharing like SAMBA,
[14:55] <pietje_phuck> lsusb
[14:56] <generic> I want secure sharing software over local network
[14:56] <kblin> generic: and all your clients are linux?
[14:56] <pietje_phuck> lsub will list all the devices connected trough usb
[14:56] <generic> combination of windows and linux
[14:57] <pietje_phuck> lshw will show all hardware
[14:57] <lg188> now i know it that card is nopt well isntalled
[14:57] <generic> Rioting_pacifist:plz tell me more about  ktorrent,
[14:57] <Rioting_pacifist> :? i think thats the wrong tool if your looking to setup perminent secure shares
[14:58] <pierre_> Hi all; I'm always facing problems with videoprojectors during my seminars. It's really annoying. any hint were to find solutions ?
[14:58] <kblin> generic: I'd go for Samba then
[14:58] <generic> I think ,u are know understand my problem,plz tell me about secure file sharing softwares ,I m working in Ubuntu base envirment
[14:58] <kblin> pierre_: starting with 8.04 I have those as well
[14:58] <generic> Would SAMBA is secure?
[14:59] <kblin> pierre_: you could try xrandr --auto with the external device plugged in
[14:59] <Rioting_pacifist> Samba if you use windows or sftp
[14:59] <generic> let see
[14:59] <kblin> or just ssh
[14:59] <kblin> but then people will need an account on the server
[14:59] <kblin> same applies for samba, though
[15:00] <pierre_> kblin_: adding that I could never get both views; the screen one and projected one
[15:00] <generic> okkkkk
[15:00] <nuno_> Does anyone knows a good sidebar for kubuntu?
[15:00] <kblin> so for "one off" sharing, I usually use scp or fish:// uris on Linux and winscp on windows
[15:01] <generic> Would i make a server for xrandr ,and install it through terminal
[15:01] <pietje_phuck> hmm I forgot bout "fish://"
[15:01] <kblin> if it's to be a more permanent thing, I'd go for samba
[15:01] <generic>  fish:// uris on Linux and winscp on windows??
[15:01] <kblin> generic: you file server is running ssh
[15:02] <kblin> generic: every user has a login to the file server
[15:02] <kblin> generic: if you open a fish://server/path/on/server URI on konqueror, it'll give you a gui for transferring files via scp
[15:03] <kblin> generic: same if you use winscp on windows
[15:03] <generic> I know about WinSCP and ssh ,I want more secure software,I want to make a server for file sharing ,in our organization there are more than 50 employees
[15:03] <kblin> generic: the downside is that people will need shell accounts on the server
[15:03] <kblin> generic: if you set up a samba server, you can disable the accounts.
[15:03] <generic> wait ,i try
[15:04] <kblin> they still need to exist for managing permissions, but they can be disabled
[15:06] <generic> Itry f fish://root@10.1.1.61/root/Desktop and its working ,Would it secure,
[15:06] <generic> How to create zccounts on server?
[15:07] <jabba> generic: you want to create accounts on the machine you're connecting to?
[15:07] <pietje_phuck> 50 ppl need to access it and it must be secure? (there is an oxymoron in the making)
[15:07] <generic> oxymoron ??
[15:07] <jabba> pietje_phuck: it's doable these days.
[15:08] <kblin> pietje_phuck: seriously, Samba is run in huge setups
[15:08] <kblin> 50 users is nothing
[15:08] <pietje_phuck> sure it is
[15:08] <generic> How we can create account on server?? ,would Windows PC will also share the files?
[15:09] <pietje_phuck> I have worked on huge systems, but I never thought of them as "secure"
[15:10] <kblin> well, obviously depends on your definition of secure
[15:10] <kblin> i.e. pretty much everything is secure if you define nfs3 as secure
[15:10] <generic> How we disable particular account or ip not to connect with samba share server?
[15:10] <generic> wait
[15:11] <jabba> pietje_phuck: i've worked on systems from 15 users to 105,000 users.
[15:11] <jabba> security has come a long way since 1990.
[15:11] <pietje_phuck> I define everything as insecure, there are just levels of insecurity ;)
[15:13] <pietje_phuck> sure jabba, as have I and a lot more ppl, but security to me is risk management and every client added increases exponential the level of insecurity
[15:13] <jabba> pietje_phuck: you have to draw the line at some point, or you won't get anything done. the way we do it in the secret squirrel locations is by restricting which users can get to a network, rather than enhancing controls on the network further.
[15:13] <pietje_phuck> jabba: I agree
[15:14] <generic>   how we can increase the level of security in samba?
[15:15] <jabba> generic: are you in a true windows environment, or is everything samba?
[15:15] <generic> jabba ,i agree
[15:17] <generic> right now ,we are in windows and Ubuntu combination envirment
[15:17] <generic> We currently use samba
[15:17] <jabba> generic: right, but are your clients authenticating to AD?
[15:18] <generic> Is there any other software for private file sharing
[15:18] <generic> AD?
[15:18] <jabba> generic: active directory
[15:19] <generic> yes ,but some users
[15:28] <tsb> Flash hangs and doesn't work here. I'd like to use flash10, installing it doesn't work (the installation works, but firefox3 does't display any flashfiles when it should). any idea how to fix this?
[15:28] <tsb> (8.04 here)
[15:30] <lander> !nl
[15:30] <lander> !nlkubuntu
[15:30] <kblin> generic: if you have an existing AD setup, just integrate Samba into that
[15:31] <generic> ok,but my question is what are the other softwares use for secure file sharing
[15:33] <kblin> what do you mean by secure?
[15:34] <kblin> perfect forward secrecy of the files transferred? access control?
[15:40] <Mr_Cheeto> OK here's what I'm facing, when I get on at first the internet connection is fine (it's wired) but about 30 minutes later the settings just switch to some othe crap on their own, how is this happening and how can I just PIN DOWN my damn settings? XD
[15:40] <Mr_Cheeto> !pastebin
[15:41] <Mr_Cheeto> !pastebin
[15:53] <stephan> Hello, can someone tell me how to emulate the middle mouse button with a simultaneous click on button 1 and 2? (Hardy laptop with touchpad and kde)
[15:54] <llutz> stephan: add a line 'Option "Emulate3Buttons"  to your xorg.conf
[15:54] <llutz> stephan: set it "true"
[15:55] <Ayabara> I have the impression that my avi-vids look better in windows than in linux. could this be?
[15:55] <stephan> llutz: Thank you. is this new in Hardy? befor hardy  it runs out of the box
[16:08] <Mr_Cheeto> !pastebin
[16:15] <slu> hi room
[16:15] <slu> need help ?
[16:16] <slu> anyone help me
[16:17] <engineer> !help
[16:18] <slu> want to download  kubuntu have intel q66 cpu do i down load  64 bit or 32
[16:18] <engineer> 64
[16:18] <slu> thanks alot engineer
[16:21] <slu> downloading kubuntu 64 bit yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:22] <ascanio> hello
[16:22] <ascanio> ciao
[16:22] <ascanio> ce nessuno?
[16:22] <slu> hi ascanio
[16:28] <lg188> !nl
[16:36] <engineer> WEEEEEEEE
[16:37] <engineer> my server cds arrived
[16:37] <engineer> faster than i thought
[16:45] <Mr_Cheeto> hey, when i play back MP3's in Amarok for Kaffene it seems to play at higher than normal speed, what's wrong with the playback?
[16:50] <jhutchins_wk> Amarok for Kafene?
[16:50] <Mr_Cheeto> or*
[16:53] <lenea> hey everyone. i have a problem. my sound doesn't work at all, but yesterday it was working just fine. i have really no idea what happened
[16:56] <lenea> i would appreciate any help whatsoever
[16:57] <Geff> Hello
[16:57] <Geff> Dites, j'ai un petit souci :
[16:57] <emilsedgh_> lenea: open kmix and see if its not mute.thats a common problem
[16:57] <techbw> hi all.
[16:58] <lenea> emilsedgh_ : just did that, and that was the problem :)) i'm such an idiot
[16:58] <emilsedgh_> lenea: its so common ;)
[16:58] <Geff> ho, sorry, it's an english channel :o)
[16:58] <Geff> C.U.
[16:59] <bwtech> if i can just jump in and ask if anyone knows of software that will read or even info on mounting discs that have been written by a sony mavica camera, but have not been closed
[17:05] <josa> :/ how do i install 2 deb packages with dpkg that depend on each other?
[17:06] <llutz> josa: sudo dpkg -i pak1.deb pak2.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:06] <engineer> install both at the same time
[17:06] <ubuntu> hi, i tried out opensuse but decided i didn't like it, i kept my kubuntu partition, but i don't know how to restore the boot loader or whatever it's called
[17:07] <llutz> !grub
[17:07] <llutz> ubuntu: ^^
[17:08] <JuJuBee> I just bought an externtal HD enclosuer (ide->usb).  When I plug in to my laptop(Feisty), it does not mount, but does on my desktop (Hardy)
[17:08] <ubuntu> right, so when i do grub /boot/grub/stage1 it lists 2 options
[17:08] <ubuntu> (hd1,4) and (hd1,6)
[17:09] <josa> thansk... that "sudo dpkg -i pak1.deb pak2.deb" gives me dependency problem... then apt-get installed it. im now wondering what happens with packages that are not in the repositories
[17:09] <ubuntu> how do i find which one i need
[17:09] <pim_> What tool can I use to shrink photos?
[17:09] <JuJuBee> pim_ Gimp?
[17:09] <llutz> pim_: convert
[17:10] <llutz> ubuntu the one on your kubuntu-/ filesystem
[17:11] <ubuntu> ok tried that
[17:11] <ubuntu> i'll try rebooting
[17:14] <JuJuBee> Anybody have thought about my external HD not mounting/
[17:14] <jals> ok that worked, i was the guy called ubuntu just now
[17:14] <jals> thanks whoever it was that helped heh
[17:17] <engineer> (17:11:38) —› quit: (ubuntu) (n=ubuntu@host86-128-94-137.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) (Remote closed the connection)
[17:17] <engineer> this guy?
[17:18] <llutz> jals: np
[17:19] <pim_> how do I get a german sz?
[17:19] <engineer> sz ?
[17:20] <llutz> pim_: use keyboard-layouts to switch to a german keyboard and you can type ß :)
[17:20] <pim_> Nah there's an easier way, I know. Only I don't remeber
[17:20] <llutz> kcharselect?
[17:21] <engineer> system settings
[17:21] <pim_> No, it was something like: press ctrl+alt+s
[17:21] <pim_> that's in windows, but Kubuntu had a different shortcut
[17:24] <rand_acs> I have a very strange issue on my notebook after updating this morning; my /mnt dir has 2 nfs filesystems in it, for some reason none of my kde(3 and 4) apps can access /mnt now, they just hang, gtk apps like Firefox have no problem access those dirs
[17:24] <rand_acs> any ideas?
[17:32] <Sarasvati> Hello!
[17:34] <Sarasvati> I have a wacom tablet and two screens, but the wacom tablet only works on the left half of my left screen and the right half of my right screen, does anyone know how to solve this?
[17:43] <eagles0513875> is there a kubuntu flash version
[17:45] <rand_acs> eagles0513875: yeah the standard linux flash plugin works
[17:46] <eagles0513875> rand_acs: your not getting me
[17:46] <eagles0513875> rand_acs: is there a version that will fit on a pendrive
[17:46] <rand_acs> ah lol, sorry for that
[17:46] <eagles0513875> thats ok
[17:46] <eagles0513875> i know bout flash plugins lol
[17:47] <rand_acs> eagles0513875: I've never heard of one tbh
[17:47] <rand_acs> none in the ftp dirs I can see
[17:47] <eagles0513875> rand_acs: so i can just take the regualr kubuntu and set it up on a pen drive
[17:47] <genii> eagles0513875: Look at www.pendrivelinux.com
[17:48] <rand_acs> so you guys don't have any idea what might be causing my weird KDE/nfs issue?
[17:48] <eagles0513875> genii: there is nothing that pertains to kubuntu on that sight
[17:48] <stef_22decemb> helo
[17:48] <stef_22decemb> I have a problem with nfs
[17:49] <rand_acs> stef_22decemb: me too...
[17:49] <stef_22decemb> anyone can help me ?
[17:49] <stef_22decemb> oh...
[17:49] <rand_acs> to*
[17:49] <stef_22decemb> what is yours ?
[17:49] <genii> eagles0513875: Yes, there is. On the right side about a third down down. Note all the "8.04 with persistent"   etc etc etcd
[17:49] <rand_acs> can't access any nfs with qt apps?
[17:49] <eagles0513875> genii: ok thanks
[17:49] <rand_acs> I can with the shell and gtk apps it seems
[17:49] <rand_acs> qt apps just crash :(
[17:50] <stef_22decemb> hum
[17:51] <rand_acs> stef_22decemb: not your problem?
[17:51] <stef_22decemb> I don't know what it meens
[17:51] <stef_22decemb> no
[17:51] <stef_22decemb> I am kde
[17:51] <stef_22decemb> but it's not that !
[17:51] <stef_22decemb> I can't write on a nfs share
[17:52] <stef_22decemb> whereas I am in the correct group
[17:52] <rand_acs> yeah I really don't get this, worked last night, updated this morning, now none of my KDE apps want to access those nfs dirs :(
[17:52] <stef_22decemb> the only share where I can write are owned by myself...
[17:52] <rand_acs> stef_22decemb: did you setup the server to give you write access?
[17:53] <stef_22decemb> I think...
[17:53] <genii> stef_22decemb: That is normal behaviour. Users are only allowed to modify files in areas where they are specifically allowed to do that.
[17:54] <stef_22decemb> so, I am only in group
[17:54] <stef_22decemb> with g+rw rights
[17:54] <stef_22decemb> and I can't...
[17:54] <stef_22decemb> it's... stupid !
[17:55] <stef_22decemb> I think I have done a thing wrong !
[17:55] <rand_acs> does the dir have 'w
[17:55] <rand_acs> on group?
[17:55] <stef_22decemb> yes
[17:55] <stef_22decemb> it have !
[17:55] <stef_22decemb> in fact
[17:56] <stef_22decemb> all shares have a group
[17:56] <genii> You need the username to exist on both machines. And to belong to the same group on both machines. And not to have some option for that share in your exports file which overrides that user to log in to that share
[17:56] <stef_22decemb> and all of this groups have +rw right on each share
[17:56] <stef_22decemb> yes
[17:56] <stef_22decemb> it's ok
[17:57] <stef_22decemb> groups exist on the two computers
[17:57] <stef_22decemb> with same personns
[17:58] <stef_22decemb> do you meen the problem comes from my exports files ?
[17:58] <stef_22decemb> ok
[17:58] <genii> stef_22decemb: Are you using some mount option on the client like sync  so that it is not a temporary GID which is being used to create files under until the drive is unmounted and would normally then write it's data?
[17:58] <stef_22decemb> hum
[17:58] <stef_22decemb> I use autofs
[17:59] <stef_22decemb> do you know ?
[17:59] <genii> automatic mount options would be not to sync
[18:00] <stef_22decemb> from exports file : /home/ftp               192.168.0.6(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[18:00] <paul_> i'm new to linex (still learning badly) i want to put a different picture on each desktop but can seem to find out how to do it ay advice thanks
[18:00] <stef_22decemb> in my auto.nfs : ftp     -soft,rw,intr lug:/home/ftp
[18:00] <genii> stef_22decemb: That is on the server and not the client, which is what I asked of. When you are mounting it there from fstab or manually, what options?
[18:00] <stef_22decemb> hum
[18:01] <stef_22decemb> auto.nfs : ftp     -soft,rw,intr lug:/home/ftp
[18:01] <stef_22decemb> auto.master : /mnt/LUG /etc/auto.nfs --ghost,--timeout=30
[18:01] <stef_22decemb> do you understand ?
[18:02] <genii> You need to add sync on the client
[18:02] <genii> eg between -soft and rw   or so, in that list of the mount options
[18:02] <stef_22decemb> ok
[18:02] <stef_22decemb> I will try
[18:02] <stefanos_> how do i turn kubuntu into ubuntu? (complete gnome install)
[18:03] <genii> !puregnome | stefanos_
[18:08] <stefanos_> genii: i don't want to remove kde packages, i want to keep kde and have gnome as well
[18:09] <stef_22decemb> do I need to reboot the client ?
[18:11] <teckbw> hi all, i have a sony cd mavica, and the camera requires easy cd creator to read the discs, but I am using ubuntu, so how can I go about reading discs that are not closed
[18:12] <BadSTuff> hello. is there a way to make kdesu ask for the root password? i don't want to use sudo at all..
[18:14] <Yfn> BadSTuff: Alt+F2 -  konsole, then enter 'passwd root'
[18:14] <BadSTuff> the root user has a password, using su on the console works.. but kdesu doesn't, after i disabled the admin group in the sudoers file.
[18:15] <teckbw> no one able to help with reading cd's that are not closed/finilized?
[18:17] <teckbw> there has to be a linux prog that is similar to roxio easy cd creator...when I google all I get is roxio stuff....pages and pages...anyone out there that knows of one
[18:17] <Tallken> teckbw: K3B ?
[18:18] <teckbw> does not read the un-closed session...have tried it...it reads all info except for un-finilised section on disc
[18:18] <des_> and try to use your program under wine?
[18:19] <eagles0513875> !binary
[18:19] <eagles0513875> !info binary
[18:19] <eagles0513875> how do i open a binary
[18:19] <eagles0513875> to where its readable
[18:19] <des_> console "sh nameofbinary"?
[18:19] <teckbw> problem is I don't have it....as I don't have the disk that came with the camera any more...have M$ for the tasks that requires windows apps...but don't have this one
[18:21] <eagles0513875> des_: thanks
[18:24] <teckbw> is there a way to mount a cd to get access to open sessions...ones that have not been closed/finilized
[18:28] <teckbw> thanks tallken....for trying to help....will have to try more searching on google.
[18:28] <Bauldrick> how can I find out what dependencies are required by a certain package if I've already installed them?
[18:33] <Grim76__> Bauldrick: You can simulate the install of a package sudo apt-get -s install <packagename>
[18:37] <Bauldrick> If I created the .deb from source and tried to install that .deb on different machine would it pull in the dependencies?
[18:38] <St> hello
[18:39] <St> I have allready been here
[18:39] <St> my nfs problem is yet there
[18:39] <St> it's not cool !
[18:39] <pim_> Great, the point is that you ask questions.
[18:39] <St> yes
[18:39] <St> of course
[18:39] <pim_> What is your question?
[18:40] <St> but I don't know what's the problem
[18:40] <St> I can't write to a nfs share
[18:40] <pim_> Then: What is not working
[18:40] <St> whereas he is said to be rw
[18:40] <pim_> You mean you cannot write to a shared ntfs drive?
[18:40] <St> I am in the correct group on the server and the client
[18:40] <St> yes
[18:40] <St> that's !
[18:41] <St> pim_ : thanks for helping ...
[18:42] <St> I have the sync option on the server and the client
[18:42] <St> as somebody said me some time ago
[18:43] <pim_> I think you have to mount it: sudo mount /drive /mountpoint -t ntfs-3g
[18:43] <St> hum
[18:43] <St> it's not ntfs
[18:43] <St> but nfs !
[18:43] <St> sorry if you don't understand !
[18:45] <pim_> Hm well I'm sorry. I think you'll have to wait until someone helps you.
[18:46] <St> no problem pim...
[18:46] <K`zan> Hi folks, trying to install vmware from adept and it just ignores my request to install, what gives?  Do I need to download from vmware site and install manually?
[18:46] <cleiton> I am Brazil!
[18:46] <Bauldrick> nut
[18:47] <K`zan> Well, yes, but it beats running wincrap stand alone :).
[18:48] <wire0> hi! how do I add more applications to my start menu?
[18:49] <St> anyone can help me for a nfs problem ?
[18:49] <K`zan> wire0: right click on it and use the menu editor.
[18:51] <wire0> K`zan: thanks but right click on what? where do I locate kmail, and what is the file I should right click?
[18:52] <K`zan> kmail should be under the "internet" menu and you right click on the start icon...
[18:52] <Sarasvati> Does anyone have any idea how I can fix firefox typing backwards?
[18:52] <K`zan> Turn the monitor over ;-)?
[18:52] <wire0> kzan its not
[18:53] <wire0> thats why I want to manually add kmail
[18:53] <wire0> its alreayd installed but not on my list
[18:53] <cranshinibon> hey can someone help me figure out how to get sound to play for youtube videos in konqueror
[18:53] <K`zan> wire0: Try launching kontact.  I've had it all up for years now and it restarts on boot, so I am a bit unfamiliar.
[18:54] <St> cranshinion : is your sound system on ?
[18:54] <St> are you member of group "audio"
[18:54] <St> can you hear music ?
[18:56] <K`zan> wire0: Did launching kontact get it?
[18:57] <MaskedOne> There such a thing as a Ventrilo program or Ventrilo like program compatable with Ventrilo servers for Kubuntu?
[18:59] <wire0> K'zan thanks man
[19:00] <K`zan> wire0: Glad to be able to help Sir!
[19:02] <mkultras> MaskedOne: there is a ventrilo server for linux
[19:02] <mkultras> should work on kubuntu
[19:02] <mkultras> i duno about client
[19:03] <MaskedOne> yeah i need the client to connect to my Guilds wow servers
[19:03] <MaskedOne> ok also my keyboard is pumping out funky letter today for some reason
[19:03] <mkultras> do you run wow on kubuntu ?
[19:04] <mkultras> i just downloaded it i want to try and play on my private server on my kubuntu machine i just setup at home
[19:04] <MaskedOne> no on XP but sometimes im in Kubuntu and want to talk in vent with the guild while i do other things
[19:04] <mkultras> it was listed at the apps db at wine though
[19:04] <MaskedOne> I have played WoW on Kubuntu and Ubuntu though
[19:04] <mkultras> i just tried to run the launcher with wine and it said i needed .net 2.0
[19:04] <MaskedOne> but sadly my ATI card doesnt like linux 100% yet the graphics suck compared to in xp
[19:05] <mkultras> ya my ati card dosent work that well either
[19:05] <mkultras> it has artifacts all over the place if i change the res with krandrtray
[19:05] <francesco_> there is any italian here???
[19:05] <MaskedOne> best thing to do is to install it in windows then copy and paste the folder over to ur home partition
[19:05] <pim_> !it
[19:05] <bipolar> For some reason installing kubuntu 'hangs' randomly when dpkg is installing packages. The progress bar just stops. The machine is not really hung. I can switch vt's to a console and play around. weird... anyone see anything like it?
[19:06] <bipolar> I'm installing from the alternate CD onto an encrypted LVM
[19:06] <mkultras> bipolar: maybe ur internet connection dropped while it was downloading
[19:06] <MaskedOne> bipolar I had a similar problem so i clicked the menu button and tried opening konq and suddenly it went
[19:06] <mkultras> oh
[19:06] <mkultras> on a cd maybe there is a scratch on it
[19:06] <bipolar> mkultras: I've burned two diffrent cd's, and restarting the process makes it stop at a diffrent spot.
[19:06] <MaskedOne> seemed like a hickup for me
[19:07] <bipolar> MaskedOne: this is the alternate cd... not the livecd. I'll try readling something off the cd.... maybe that will do it.
[19:07] <MaskedOne> ok, yeah i always use the liveCD, easier to trouble shoot etc...
[19:08] <mkultras> ya i'm not sure you could try copying the files to the hdd maybe
[19:10] <DrSilent> Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with the Kubuntu login manager (KDE 3 in 8.04). I tried changing the background image but somehow it didn't stick and gave me a blank screen, and also removed the login box GUI for a bland looking one
[19:10] <bipolar> no dice... sigh
[19:10] <Grim76__> bipolar: Did you verify that your download was good?  ie md5/sha hash?
[19:11] <bipolar> Grim76__: yes... and the cd test passwd
[19:11] <bipolar> passed :P
[19:11] <Grim76__> Ok just a thought
[19:11] <Grim76__> bipolar: Did you burn at the highest speed for your burner or the slowest?
[19:12] <bipolar> auto ;P
[19:12] <bipolar> that would be fastest then
[19:12] <DrSilent> I've tried to go back and managed to put one of the system backgrounds on, but the login box remains the same. I've also installed kdmtheme manager and it appears to do nothing
[19:12] <DrSilent> any ideas?
[19:12] <Grim76__> bipolar: You might try burning at the slowest speed.
[19:13] <bipolar> Grim76__: I'll try it.
[19:13] <MaskedOne> contrary to popular belief, burning speeds and mis=burnings to really happen much, yet everyone tries that excuse when Kubuntu install ain't working lol
[19:13] <MaskedOne> kinda funny
[19:13] <bipolar> burning at 10x now
[19:13] <MaskedOne> don't rlly happen much i ment lol
[19:14] <Grim76__> MaskedOne: I have had it happen before.  Just figured it might work for bipolar.
[19:16] <sigma_12> is kubuntu intrepid alpha one out yet?
[19:18] <mkultras> hey at home i have install kubuntu 8 kde4 remix and i want to get kde3.5.9 on it instead what would be the easiest way to do that ?
[19:19] <mkultras> should i just burn the kde cd of the non kde4 version and reinstall over it
[19:19] <DrSilent> if you've just installed it, install over it?
[19:19] <mkultras> i guess ya
[19:19] <DrSilent> that's 40 minutes tops
[19:19] <mkultras> i was trying to just do it with apt-get install but i couldnt see the kde3 package names
[19:20] <DrSilent> if you aren't going to use kde4 at all that's asking for headaches imo
[19:20] <mkultras> ya ill burn a cd of the kde3 one then
[19:21] <Exilant> anyone using the os ati driver and successfully running google earth?
[19:23] <mkultras> on this machine when i download the ati driver from the site and then load x i get like weird blocks of colors on the screen and stuff artifacts all over, its kinda nuts to use after, and if i enable desktop effects, everything goes black, i think i need to get another version of the ati driver
[19:24] <St> anyone specialist nfs ?
[19:24] <St> I come back...
[19:24] <mkultras> i just went and made this computer like the other day to run kubuntu on it's never had windows on it
[19:24] <St> with some precisions
[19:29] <matisse> there is a kernel update available. some time ago, i asked about linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic which has the description "You likely do not want to install this package directly. ... " Is it now ok to install everything with the update manager ?
[19:31] <DrSilent> I've done it for the last three without problem..
[19:31] <DrSilent> as far as i know anyway
[19:32] <__Adam__> hello, I have installed the kubuntu-kde4-desktop package, but still seem to be loading KD3
[19:32] <Rioting_pacifist> __Adam__: you have to select kde4 at the login screen
[19:33] <__Adam__> ohhhhh
[19:33] <__Adam__> let me try that :)
[19:33] <__Adam__> brb
[19:33] <matisse> DrSilent: the last time i asked here, i was told the install it on another way... well, i will try. Any other things I have to care when I make a kernel update ?
[19:35] <DrSilent> I wish i could tell you but I've rather new at this. I'm just reporting that it worked for me
[19:36] <matisse> ok, thx anyway
[19:44] <lg188> can'tlogin anymore
[19:44] <lg188> can't fin the problem somthing with xorg
[19:44] <lg188> already  ahev an comand line
[19:45] <lg188> but i cant find the good log
[19:45] <lg188> any help ?
[19:45] <Exilant> is /home full?
[19:45] <lg188> nope
[19:45] <Exilant> or not mounted?
[19:45] <lg188> actual what you mean with full
[19:45] <Exilant> 100% full
[19:46] <lg188> hdd full ?
[19:46] <Exilant> yes, the partition for /home
[19:46] <lg188> nope use3GB of the 40
[19:46] <Exilant> ok
[19:46] <Exilant> (if that was full, kdm would not log you in)
[19:47] <lg188> mounted ? euhm i dont knwo
[19:47] <Exilant> can you access it from the cl?
[19:48] <lg188> yes
[19:49] <Exilant> ok, then it is mounted
[19:49] <Exilant> and X is running?
[19:50] <Grim76__> alskjalfjd
[19:50] <lg188> nope
[19:50] <lg188> he shutsdown when i try to long in and it restarts then
[19:50] <__Adam__> hello
[19:51] <lg188> __Adam__: hey
[19:51] <__Adam__> new problem with KDE4 :P  cant change desktop icon size
[19:51] <Exilant> hm, so X is running and just kdm is making problems?
[19:52] <lg188> i think so
[19:52] <lg188> idk
[19:53] <juanitocolinos> saludos, ¿alguien ha tenido problemas con el Busybox al iniciar el kubuntu?
[19:53] <dhq__> does anyone have an i-mate cell.
[19:54] <lg188> !it
[19:54] <lg188> !spa
[19:54] <srauls_> Here is a question, installed ubuntu 8.10 downloaded all the updates, and when grub comes up it shows all the different updated versions of 8.10 ver .17, .18, .19 when i use the latest version it looks like it is booting up but then reboots and it will do this several times
[19:55] <__Adam__> new problem with KDE4 :P  cant change desktop icon size?
[19:55] <lg188> __Adam__:  stop copy just report it
[19:56] <__Adam__> but my icons are huge!!!!!!
[19:56] <matisse> lg188: in our computer room often that problem exists
[19:56] <matisse> __Adam__: search in kcontrol
[19:57] <matisse> lg188: are your login data send to a server ?
[19:57] <lg188> __Adam__: also you can resize your reoslution ...
[19:57] <lg188> matisse: what??
[19:58] <ingwa__> does anybody know how to install language packs in kubuntu?
[19:58] <lg188> evil or wht ?,
[19:58] <__Adam__> i am at the max my laptop display supports
[19:58] <Exilant> srauls_: either boot an older one or look at the last entries in the log or on the screen before the reboots
[19:59] <matisse> __Adam__: press K-menu button (down left) -> command ... -> type in kcontrol -> use search
[20:00] <spideyman> evr since i upgraded my amorok sounds like shit
[20:00] <matisse> lg188: i mean, do you use an login server ?
[20:01] <Ash-Fox> Has x.org lost DGA support in Kubuntu?
[20:01] <ingwa__> How can I install a new language in kubuntu, in this case swedish?
[20:02] <lg188> matisse: i don think so
[20:02] <matisse> then its a different problem
[20:03] <__Adam__> i do that in kcontrol and set them to 16
[20:03] <matisse> ingwa__: for kde use "kcontrol"
[20:03] <__Adam__> the icons do not change size!
[20:03] <ingwa__> matisse: I do that when  iwant to *set* the language.  in this case the language support files aren't installed yet.
[20:04] <matisse> __Adam__: do you mean desktop or task line icons ?
[20:04] <__Adam__> desktop icons
[20:04] <__Adam__> in KDE4
[20:04] <ingwa__> matisse: the problem is that I can't find them in adept
[20:05] <matisse> ingwa__: apt-cache search swedish | grep sv
[20:05] <ingwa__> matisse: great!  Thanks
[20:06] <matisse> ingwa__:  in bash... but I dont know which are the relevant ones
[20:06] <ingwa__> matisse: I'll find out
[20:06] <matisse> k
[20:06] <ingwa__> thanks a lot
[20:07] <lg188> matisse: ik dont used a server
[20:07] <jrabbitb> can anyone direct me to a good tutorial for setting up a maven repository in kubuntu?
[20:07] <lg188> btw why ?
[20:08] <matisse> lg188: in our computer room - as sayd - the same problem exists sometimes, but we're logging in on a server, not on the computer itself
[20:08] <lg188> yeah but i need that pc for useing
[20:09] <lg188> sounds quite logical
[20:09] <Exilant> lg188: are you thrown out directly, or is maybe some app autostarted that then crashes x?
[20:09] <ogzy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -force -phigh xserver-xorg give this output debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Orce
[20:09] <lg188> euh ?:s
[20:09] <ogzy> so what is Orce, i am using 8.04
[20:10] <lg188> i'l never get it to work
[20:10] <ogzy> i tried dpkg-recpnfigure debconf and choosed Dialog but i still get the smae Orce message
[20:10] <bipolar> Grim76__: wow... writing at a slower speed did it.
[20:10] <bipolar> Grim76__: thanks!
[20:10] <bipolar> thats still a really weird problem. no errors or anything.
[20:29] <Grim76__> bipolar: cool happy to help.
[20:29] <pim_> !netsplit
[20:39] <wire0> oh god
[20:39] <wire0> kde-look is so slow, why do they even bother
[20:39] <wire0> for 6 months its been so slow its almost dead
[20:43] <mkultras> ya im done downloading the kubuntu dvd iso for 8 that didnt take long to torrent at all
[20:43] <tiagheiro> eis
[20:45] <des_> !bnetd
[20:46] <kirkt> hey guys, what was this package which installs ms fonts called?
[20:46] <Sorax> mstcorefonts
[20:46] <engineer> apt-cache search fonts
[20:46] <KhanFused> msttcorefonts, I think
[20:46] <JoshOvki> !fonts
[20:47] <kirkt> strange, looks like its alredy installed
[20:47] <kirkt> well it doesnt really look like it since im still looking at linux fonts
[20:48] <Sorax> maybe restart the application?
[20:48] <KhanFused> (babble mode ON)   Hi ... I"m trying to put hardy onto a celeron machine, and the installer (I think) freezes at the point where it starts up X.  The virtual consoles are up, and I can alt-Fkey between them, but the session with the installer has stopped.  I'm guessing it's not loading the x server.  a) if not in /var/log/messages, where might I check to troubleshoot this? ... b) I've checked with knoppix and x does work (
[20:48] <kirkt> Sorax,  i think this is the issue with not having the antialiasing
[20:50] <Seren__> Hi
[20:50] <Seren__> I got a problem with amarok
[20:50] <Seren__> my walkman is not detected automatically when I plug it
[20:50] <Seren__> I have found a way to mount it
[20:50] <Seren__> now how do I tell amarok where the mount point is ?
[20:52] <StultusApparatus> Can anyone help me install AIM?
[20:52] <MilitantPotato> Seren__: Settings>Configure Amarok.  On the Left side, click media Devices
[20:53] <MilitantPotato> typing 'mount' in konsole will show the mount point for your device if you're not sure where it's mounted
[20:54] <Seren__> I know where it is
[20:54] <Seren__> the problem is amarok doesn't seem to see it as a device
[20:54] <MilitantPotato> Seren__: did you click add device?
[20:54] <Seren__> I can copy manually to the device using the mount point
[20:54] <koki__> hello, what command should i use to list all devices connected to my pc? i'm not sure what's the number of my disk
[20:55] <Seren__> MilitantPotato: I only have "connect" as far as I see, I don't see any add button
[20:56] <MilitantPotato> Ah, that would be a problem I'd think.
[20:56] <MilitantPotato> I have auto detect devices and add device, you're not seeing those two buttons?
[20:59] <Seren__> mmh I managed to crash amarok
[20:59] <Seren__> this is a start :)
[21:01] <SniZzo> !compizconfigsettingmanager
[21:02] <PhilRod> here's fun: I've just run adept updater, and it ran into the normal merge issue on /boot/menu/grub.lst. So I chose "start a new shell to investigate the issue", and now the debconf window appears frozen
[21:02] <PhilRod> anyone suggest what I should do?
[21:03] <matisse> is it a good or a bad sign, if updatemanager crashs when updating the kernel ?
[21:04]  * PhilRod votes bad
[21:06] <SniZzo> !compizconfig-setting-manager
[21:06] <MilitantPotato> !ccsm
[21:07] <MilitantPotato> SniZzo: there ya go
[21:07] <SniZzo> :D
[21:07] <MilitantPotato> SniZzo: try #compiz-fusion if you need help specifically with compiz-fusion or ccsm
[21:08] <SniZzo> yes thanks i was only trying the bot :)
[21:08] <SniZzo> !pyOgre
[21:08] <PhilRod> ah, so lesson for next time is that the "new shell" starts in the update manager window, so I have to go abck there and hit "show details"
[21:09] <e-clipse> spanish?
[21:10] <MilitantPotato> !es
[21:10] <e-clipse> ok thanks
[21:15] <FoxIII> Hey all. Still trying to get my belkin wireless card to work in kubuntu HH. I'm at a loss
[21:37] <cyberboss> hi
[21:37] <cyberboss> Ya des francais ,
[21:37] <jpds> !fr | cyberboss
[21:37] <cyberboss> thanks
[21:39] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[21:40] <contrast83> Anyone know how to disable the hard drive light? It gets to be somewhat distracting when I'm watching movies.
[21:42] <Tallken> ROFL, contrast83, not that I know. However some Targa laptops disabled all the light when you pressed Fn+F1
[21:42] <cyberboss> so hum i will try it in english : i have a problem to configure my language french in configuration kubuntu
[21:42] <contrast83> Tallken: Hmm... Thanks for the info
[21:42] <Tallken> contrast83: but wait a bit
[21:43] <Tallken> contrast83: maybe someone here knows
[21:43] <Tallken> contrast83: nad haven't still read your question, don't leave the channel already ;)
[21:43] <Tallken> *and
[21:44] <contrast83> cyberboss: System Settings -> Regional & Language
[21:44] <contrast83> Tallken: Yup, I know. ;-)
[21:47] <contrast83> cyberboss: You'll probably need to run "sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr language-support-fr" first (or just install those two packages in Adept Manager).
[21:48] <cyberboss> ok i will try it
[21:49] <cyberboss> regonal and language juste 2 language english
[21:49] <cyberboss> not french :'(
[21:49] <edj> I removed kwalletmanager, but still get the nag screen saying "Kwallet has requested . . ." .  Something else to remove?
[21:49] <athlon1> hallo: I have a presentation .pps. I open it and see all the images. How can I extract them out of the .pps  file? Thanks.
[21:51] <contrast83> cyberboss: Did you see what I said about installing the packages for French?
[21:51] <athlon1> I forgot to say that use impress openoffice
[21:51] <cyberboss> no :/
[21:51] <contrast83> cyberboss: You'll probably need to run "sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr language-support-fr" first (or just install those two packages in Adept Manager).
[21:51] <Rioting_pacifist> edj: its generally easier to set a blank password as most kde apps use kwalletmanager to store passwords and dont know what to do if its not there (well they do they store it in text files once you figure out how to tell them each to)
[21:51] <mkultras> athlon1: i use open office impress when i open a pps i can right click the images and save
[21:52] <engineer> any dane here?
[21:55] <psyco> would anyone here know why my kiba-dock won't show up? It starts but I cant see anything.,
[21:55] <the-erm> Anyone here ever done a dist upgrade with apt-catcher?
[21:55] <the-erm> oh wait ... I mean from the command line.
[21:56] <the-erm> Maybe I should try the gui.
[21:56] <contrast83> psyco: Are you building it from SVN or using packages? (And you have Compiz running, right?)
[21:56] <psyco> contrast83: compiz yes and packages
[21:56] <psyco> contrast83: it started up when I installed it but crashed after about 5 minutes and never started again
[21:57] <contrast83> psyco: maybe move ~/.kiba somewhere else and run it from the command line to see if it gives any useful output
[21:57] <psyco> ok
[21:58] <contrast83> psyco: just out of curiosity, were the packages built for hardy, and if so, where'd you get 'em? :))
[21:58] <psyco> contrast83: lol no, I am using feisty packages. Could that be it? I had it working for a biut though...
[21:59] <psyco> contrast83: I dont have a ~./kiba XD
[21:59] <myk_robinson> hey, guys
[21:59] <contrast83> meh, that usually wouldn't cause that kind of problem
[21:59] <myk_robinson> need some assistance with a serial port. Running lshw shows the serial port as UNCLAIMED
[21:59] <myk_robinson> i think this may be why i cant get the serial port working in dosemu.
[21:59] <myk_robinson> I have edited the config file to use /dev/ttyS0 for COM1
[22:00] <contrast83> psyco: erm, sorry, been a while since i had kiba installed... how about ~/.kiba-dock and/or ~/.config/kiba-dock
[22:00] <myk_robinson> how do i get rid of this UNCLAIMED error?
[22:00] <psyco> contrast83: lol ok
[22:01] <psyco> contrast83: lmao it works noe
[22:01] <psyco> you are amazing :P
[22:02] <athlon1> multras: I'm not allowed to do that. The only thing i allowed is to select an image and select save as. But the image has text and I'm able do cut it (even i can select i)
[22:04] <contrast83> psyco: that works for pretty much any program, FYI. pretty much all the kde apps' config files will be in ~/.kde/share/config and their local data (amarok's collection database, for example) will be in ~/.kde/share/apps
[22:05] <psyco> contrast83: lol awesome. Thanks.
[22:05] <contrast83> no problem
[22:05] <contrast83> psyco: new to linux?
[22:05] <psyco> But now my menus are all black :S:S
[22:05] <psyco> contrast83: somewhat
[22:05] <psyco> **kiba menus
[22:06] <contrast83> psyco: it actually pays to explore the filesystem on here, as opposed to that other os :))
[22:06] <psyco> Heh
[22:06] <contrast83> psyco: well any tweaking you did to kiba-dock will need to be re-done, since its settings just got moved
[22:07] <contrast83> contrast83: by its menus, you mean the icons' tooltips, right?
[22:09] <edj> I hate this kwallet crap.  The nag screen asks for a password - i never set a password and can't find it in the config screen.  If I uninstall it, it keeps coming up anyway.  Where's the password stored?
[22:09] <contrast83> edj: one sec...
[22:09] <psyco> contrast83: by menus I meant like right click and settings, but its fixed
[22:09] <psyco> for some reason it didn't like baghira windows style
[22:10] <contrast83> oh yeah, baghira doesn't get along at all with gtk apps
[22:11] <contrast83> edj: Alt+F2 -> kcontrol -> Security & Privacy -> KDE Wallet
[22:11] <contrast83> KWallet's default settings are garbage, but it's actually a good little system - you just need to change a couple settings to sanitize it
[22:12]  * contrast83 loves QtCurve
[22:13] <contrast83> It ain't as pretty as Baghira or Domino, but it looks good enough and having a 100% consistent look across KDE 3, KDE 4 and GNOME apps is more than worth the trade-off
[22:13] <psyco> anyone know how to add TWO system info icons on kiba??
[22:14] <contrast83> i don't think you can. you can have multiple kiba-docks running though, you just need to set a different path for its settings on the second one
[22:14] <edj> contrast83, that's the same as configure kwallet from the icon.  there's no password there.  kwalletrc doesn't have one either.  I can't purge the damn thing.  this is driving me nuts.
[22:14] <contrast83> i could very well be wrong though... i think kiba has a channel at #kiba-dock, might wanna ask in there
[22:15] <psyco> contrast83: ok.
[22:16] <contrast83> edj: Sorry, -> Launch Wallet Manager, right-click on kdewallet -> Change Password
[22:16] <psyco> contrast83: RWAR kiba is back to now showing up >.>
[22:17] <psyco> contrast83: do you think I should CVS install it?
[22:17] <contrast83> psyco: Did it happen right after you changed a certain setting?
[22:17] <contrast83> psyco: you might give it a shot, just uninstall the packages first obviously
[22:17] <edj> contrast83, There's no Change Password option.
[22:17] <psyco> After I closed it. It wouldnt reopen. I did change settings though.
[22:18] <contrast83> edj: umm... i'm looking right at it. :-)
[22:18] <contrast83> psyco: i threw together a little script for installing kiba from svn if you want it
[22:19] <psyco> sweet
[22:19] <contrast83> it doesn't update it or anything though :-\
[22:19] <psyco> Meh.
[22:19] <contrast83> you use checkinstall?
[22:19] <psyco> not sure what that is XD
[22:20] <darkdelusions> How to start a 3 hour discussion in the ubuntu channel :) call compiz evil :)
[22:20] <psyco> rofl
[22:20] <edj> contrast83, Well, I have Configure Wallet, Close All Wallets, Restore and Quit.  That's it.
[22:21] <contrast83> edj: right-click on the kdewallet icon.
[22:21] <StultusApparatus> Can anyone help me take all of my files from my FTP server and put them into a local folder? I'm using FileZilla and it keeps failing
[22:21] <psyco> contrast83: OR I could try kxdocker....
[22:21] <contrast83> psyco: bleh
[22:21] <contrast83> cairo-dock's nice
[22:21] <psyco> I
[22:22] <psyco> I'll try that then./
[22:22] <contrast83> i forget where i got the packages for it, but there are Hardy ones available
[22:22] <psyco> can I put K menu on that?
[22:22] <psyco> heh ok
[22:22] <contrast83> you can put k menu on anything with a dcop call
[22:22] <psyco> dcop call???
[22:22] <edj> contrast83, Thanks for trying to help -- but that's what I'm doing, and no password option.
[22:23] <StultusApparatus> Nevermind, I had to open  filezilla as root.
[22:23] <contrast83> edj: erm, that's really weird... how about moving ~/.kde/share/config/kwalletrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet to ~ ?
[22:24] <contrast83> psyco: one sec...
[22:24] <psyco> contrast83:  ok
[22:26] <StultusApparatus> How do I restart apache via command line?
[22:26] <contrast83> psyco: dcop is what kde uses for interprocess communications... try running "dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0,0" for an example
[22:27] <psyco> ooo, thanks.
[22:27] <contrast83> psyco: there's a *lot* of stuff you can do with dcop, i never bothered figuring much of it out since kde 4 will be using dbus in its place, which is the standard in everything else
[22:28] <psyco> alright. Thank you for that.
[22:28] <contrast83> np
[22:29] <contrast83> so yeah, you'll just want to add a new icon with that dcop command to whatever dock
[22:31] <contrast83> edj: Any progress?
[22:31] <DrSilent> I'm going to try this again while there's a lull...
[22:32] <DrSilent> Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with the Kubuntu login manager (KDE 3 in 8.04). I tried changing the background image but somehow it didn't stick and gave me a blank screen, and also removed the login box GUI for a bland looking one
[22:32] <DrSilent> I've tried to go back and managed to put one of the system backgrounds on, but the login box remains the same. I've also installed kdmtheme manager and it appears to do nothing
[22:32] <DrSilent> any ideas?
[22:33] <contrast83> DrSilent: i've been having that same problem since gutsy
[22:33] <DrSilent> oh so it's abug is it?
[22:33] <Exilant> dpkg-reconfigure kdm maybe
[22:33] <psyco> WOW cairo-dock is amazing THANKS so much contrast83!!
[22:34] <contrast83> Exilant: good idea... or maybe dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-default-settings
[22:34] <contrast83> psyco: no prob. my favorite feature on it is the sub-docks
[22:34] <DrSilent> sorry... what's dpkg and how do I use it?
[22:35] <Exilant> dpkg is one level below apt
[22:35] <contrast83> DrSilent: dpkg is the low-level app for debian package management, you'd usually want to use apt or aptitude instead
[22:35] <DrSilent> I see
[22:36] <DrSilent> so I just su that command you typed then
[22:36] <contrast83> or sudo, yeah
[22:37] <contrast83> if that doesn't work, you *might* try just reinstalling either of those two packages
[22:38] <DrSilent> first one didn't work.. trying second one
[22:40] <psyco> contrast83: what exactly is a sub dock do?
[22:40] <psyco> or for*
[22:40] <contrast83> DrSilent: looks like dpkg-reconfigure doesn't work... i'm trying reinstalling them now
[22:40] <DrSilent> yep, just noticed the same
[22:41] <contrast83> psyco: they let you group your icons, so lets say you want all your games together, make a sub-dock that contains them, and when you click its icon, the games icons will come up
[22:41] <contrast83> not sure i explained that well, but i'm sure you can find screenshots
[22:42] <psyco> oooooo fancy.
[22:44] <contrast83> Anyone know how to disable the hard drive light?
[22:45] <DrSilent> if that's a desktop.. you could unplug the wire?
[22:45] <psyco> contrast83: how do I add things to a sub dock?
[22:46] <contrast83> DrSilent: yeah... i was wondering about the software way of doing it though. i imagine it's controlled by a module that would need to be unloaded, just have no idea which one or where to look for it
[22:46] <contrast83> psyco: right-click the icon you want to add to it -> customize icon (or something like that) -> container, i *think*. been a little while since i used it
[22:47] <psyco> heh ok.
[22:47] <psyco> Where are all the icons kept for programs??
[22:48] <Ick> can anybody help me with VI?
[22:48] <cyberboss> francais
[22:48] <cyberboss> !kubuntu fr
[22:49] <cyberboss> !france
[22:49] <contrast83> psyco: i never figured that out. lol
[22:50] <DrSilent> i think specific icons you will find with the binaries?
[22:50] <Ick> i opened VI and typed something out. i lost power before i got a chance to save the file, and vim -r doesn't find anything. i need the file pretty badly. what can i do?
[22:50] <psyco> ok ill look
[22:50] <contrast83> DrSilent: he means the .desktop files
[22:51] <orlando> my fron brasil
[22:51] <ybit> !compiz
[22:51] <orlando> algum brasileiro ai ?
[22:51] <Pici> !br | orlando
[22:51] <DrSilent> oh sorry, didn't follow all that
[22:51] <orlando> #ubuntu-br
[22:52] <orlando> #ubuntu-pt
[22:52] <Pici> orlando: /j #ubuntu-br
[22:52] <contrast83> np
[22:52] <orlando> não entendi como funciona isso
[22:52] <ybit> are there instructions for 8.04 or do these work fine?
[22:53] <DrSilent> mmm that dpkg-reconfigure seems do have done *something*, some of my programs like Akregator have reseted their layouts
[22:53] <contrast83> ybit: you really don't even need instructions. just use Desktop Effects. i forget what category its in, but it's right there in the KMenu
[22:54] <contrast83> DrSilent: -_~ That's effin' weird. dpkg shouldn't be touching anything in ~
[22:54] <contrast83> sorry 'bout that, man. :-(
[22:55] <DrSilent> aah that's okay
[22:55] <DrSilent> the more i toy with this, the weirder it gets
[22:55] <DrSilent> i should just leave it alone!
[22:55] <DrSilent> already reinstalledt he whole thing three times this week :x
[22:55] <contrast83> DrSilent: sounds like me when i first started
[22:56] <contrast83> what problems were you having that caused you to reinstall?
[22:56] <DrSilent> oh the last time I messed up with the file permissions in a bad way I think ^^;
[22:56] <DrSilent> i lost sudo power as a result
[22:56] <contrast83> ahh, ok... have you learned to keep a seperate /home partition?
[22:56] <contrast83> o_O
[22:56] <DrSilent> yeah i've done that from teh start
[22:57] <DrSilent> the time before that... I found a bug with the panel bar and transparency
[22:57] <contrast83> that's good
[22:58] <psyco> How would I add K Menu to Cairo Dock??
[22:58] <DrSilent> such that if you set the main panel as transparent and forget to tick a way to bring ot back... you can't get it back
[22:58] <contrast83> psyco: add a new icon with that command
[22:58] <DrSilent> that hurt
[22:59] <contrast83> DrSilent: hmm... well, all you'd need to do to fix that is (re)move ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[22:59] <DrSilent> that's what I eventually did actually
[22:59] <DrSilent> well teh whoel kde
[23:00] <psyco> What is the command?
[23:01] <ybit> thanks contrast83.. i'm surprised that it just works like that now :)
[23:01] <contrast83> psyco: dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0,0
[23:01] <psyco> ahh lol
[23:01] <contrast83> yeah, it's come a long way. hehe
[23:01] <psyco> Thankls
[23:01] <psyco> :P
[23:01] <contrast83> welx
[23:01] <psyco> When you sent that I was d/ling cairo dock so I fortgot to try it
[23:03] <ybit> how do you change what the meta key is? the tracking mouse effect isn't allowing me to change the shortcut
[23:04] <StultusApparatus> Is anyone here good with PHP?
[23:04] <psyco> what do you call the alphanumeric code for weather stations?
[23:04] <contrast83> ybit: try changing the backend to flatfile (Advanced Desktop Settings -> Preferences)
[23:06] <contrast83> well, i'm out. peace, y'all
[23:06] <DrSilent> thanks for your help man
[23:09] <_Gast_355_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7969777/
[23:14] <xzvar> hi
[23:14] <xzvar> i got a problem changing permess of a directory....
[23:15] <xzvar> directory is at 000 and fs is read only (its a dvd)... how do i access it?
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: what is the issue?
[23:16] <psyco> Where is the K Menu icon???
[23:16] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: can you not open/browse the dvd through dolphin or konqueror?
[23:17] <Rioting_pacifist> py
[23:17] <xzvar> yea, but when i enter /media/dvd i see one folder.... and its permess are 000
[23:17] <Rioting_pacifist> psyco: it should be on the bottom pannel
[23:17] <xzvar> chmod doesnt work saying ita s read only fs
[23:18] <xzvar> d---------
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: how did you mount it? did you automount it with hal?
[23:18] <Rioting_pacifist> xzvar: if you need to find out if its mounted ro, type mount into console
[23:18] <xzvar> i tried with first automount (just inserting dvd)
[23:18] <xzvar> then
[23:19] <xzvar> i tried umount /media/dvd
[23:19] <xzvar> and remount
[23:19] <xzvar> with mount -t udf -o loop -w /dev/dvd1 /media/dvd
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: it might be mounted as read-only...
[23:20] <xzvar> -w option should be rw?
[23:23] <xzvar> ?
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: yes, i belive so.
[23:24] <xzvar> ehm... any clue? :)
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: could be a problem with hal, or with your /etc/fstab file...
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: try this. un-mount the drive and eject the tray. then in a terminal, do "sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart" then put the dvd back and close the tray. then open dolphin, go to places, and try opening your dvd drive again...
[23:27] <xzvar> ehm... sorry for my igbnorance :) hal is a process that....?
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> hal is a "hardware abstraction layer"... ;)
[23:28] <xzvar> ah ok
[23:28] <xzvar> done
[23:28] <xzvar> but still the same....
[23:28] <jals> are there any other decent options for cd ripping in kubuntu aside from k3b?
[23:29] <xzvar> i can access dvd..... but inner folders have 000 permess
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> jals: konqueror can rip cd;s
[23:29] <Constrabus> Video works fine in X, but when I kill X i cant get back to the console. I just get a blank screen. Any ideas? Card: 8800m GTX laptop gpu
[23:29] <jals> oh you mean like drag and drop?
[23:29] <jals> yeah i tried that, everything seems pretty slow though
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> jals: yeah, but it is slower than k3b...
[23:30] <jals> even k3b seems kinda slow compared to grip, but i'd prefer to avoid gnome apps
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> jals: k3b is the best (for X) there are some console apps that I find interesting such as abcde
[23:30] <jals> heh too much of a n00b for console stuff right now
[23:31] <jals> i'll try k3b again, try and mess with it
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> xzvar: i really don't know.... sorry...
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> jals: it is pretty simple. once you set the config file, you can rip the cd with one command :)
[23:32] <jals> Odd-rationale, got any guides/tutorials for it?
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> jals: sure. one moment...
[23:32] <jals> ta
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> jals: http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html enjoy!
[23:33] <jals> thanks
[23:35] <DexterF> hi
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> !Hi | DexterF
[23:36] <DexterF> !wpa
[23:36] <anethum_a> how can i set up an HP printer so i can use it over the network?
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> !cups
[23:37] <DexterF> wpa docs seem for ubuntu rather - how do I config wpa
[23:37] <DexterF> +?
[23:37] <anethum_a> thnx
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> DexterF: should be similar...
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> you might want to double-check the your card support wpa before you begin.... :)
[23:38] <DexterF> Odd-rationale: well, howto talks about network manager - what do I use in kde?
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> DexterF: knetworkmanager
[23:38] <DexterF> Odd-rationale: r8187b beta from the aircrack people.
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> DexterF: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[23:44] <jals> how long would you expect it to take for a cd to rip
[23:44] <jals> to mp3
[23:45] <Odd-rationale> jals: depends on your machine. maybe about 8-12 min for me...
[23:46] <BluesKaj> happy solstice !
[23:47] <jals> it's a 1.8ghz athlon
[23:47] <leandro> #kubuntu br
[23:48] <leandro> #kubuntu_br
[23:56] <StultusApparatus> How do I find out what version of Kubuntu I'm using via konsole again?
[23:57] <userkubuntu> .