[00:24] <Amaranth> Hirato: you don't need them if you don't have the drivers from lrm
[00:24] <Amaranth> Hirato: do you have any reason to still have lrm installed?
[00:24] <Hirato> frankly, I don't even know what lrm is
[00:25] <Amaranth> linux-restricted-modules
[00:25] <Amaranth> also, are you using my patch to build the nvidia driver?
[00:25] <Hirato> just downloading the official ones from nvidia.com
[00:26] <Amaranth> they won't even work
[00:26] <Amaranth> fail to compile
[00:26] <Hirato> no, they work
[00:26] <Hirato> just don't use the .09 version :)
[00:27] <Amaranth> 05 has no support for 2.6.26 kernels
[00:27] <Amaranth> once again, fails to compile
[00:27] <Amaranth> they fail to compile because they check for xen
[00:28] <Hirato> I have noticed that 173.14.08 fails too
[00:28] <Amaranth> same reason
[00:28] <Hirato> I probably should've mentioned I have the restricted modules installed already
[00:28] <Amaranth> our kernels include xen now
[00:28] <Amaranth> but the restricted modules are useless as they don't include anything for nvidia
[00:28] <Amaranth> so unless you have madwifi or broadcom you can just remove it
[00:29] <Amaranth> broadcom wifi, i mean
[00:29] <Amaranth> and that's the bit that makes you need lrm-video to load the nvidia module, even once you build it on your own
[00:29] <Hirato> which bit?
[00:29] <Amaranth> linux-restricted-modules
[00:30] <Hirato> aah!
[00:32] <Hirato> goodbye, I really have to go now
[00:32] <tnnc> anyone have an idea when alpha 1 will be out
[00:33] <Amaranth> when the installer works
[00:38] <AtomicSpark> So tell me, how is ibex looking?
[00:39] <AtomicSpark> Any new fancy features they couldn't push out in hardy?
[00:41] <ghindo> I don't think they've finalized the features for Ibex yet
[00:41] <ghindo> It's kinda falling behind schedule, from my understanding
[01:17] <calc> its not really behind schedule, the person who made the schedule just forgot to account for 8.04.1
[01:17] <calc> as far as merges, etc go we are pretty close to where we normally are
[01:19] <pheeror> umm, can't boot 2.6.26 :-(
[01:20] <pheeror> AtomicSpark: e.g. NetworkManager is working in intrepid (:
[01:23] <emma> Has intrepid developed to the point where it would be beneficial for an intermediate user to beta test it?
[01:24] <calc> doubtful
[01:24] <calc> emma: maybe after alpha 1 is released
[01:24] <crdlb> 'beta' :)
[01:24] <emma> I'm eager to help in any way I can. :)
[01:24] <calc> most developers are still working on 8.04.1
[01:25] <emma> crdlb: I may be off on the specifics of the terminology. :)
[01:25] <calc> i haven't installed intrepid anywhere yet myself
[02:10] <phin> hmmm
[02:11] <phin> 26th is the import freeze?
[11:54] <amikrop> Hello. So, let me understand how Ubuntu handles software updates/upgrades/new-releases. For example, Wine 1.0 will be in the repos, only in Intrepid?
[11:55] <amikrop> And never in Hardy?
[11:56] <amikrop> (Wine 1.0 has been released on June 17, and now, in Hardy's repos, there is Wine 0.9.59.)
[11:57] <jrib> simeltaneous double posting is kind of annoying, especially in channels like #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 where the people are the same
[11:58] <jrib> !timebasedreleases > amikrop (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:09] <gluer> 10 mins to go for upgrade!!
[15:06] <gluer_> cannot get bluetooth logitech KB to work! any ideas?
[15:09] <gluer_> sweet fixed it
[16:40] <dholbach> "How to run a Bug Jam" IRC Session in #ubuntu-meeting in 20 minutes
[19:33] <tanner> has intrepid fixed the high iowait times suffered by hardy?
[19:36] <Amaranth> i thought hardy fixed the high iowait times suffered by hardy
[19:37] <Amaranth> in like the first kernel update
[19:37] <tanner> afraid not
[19:37] <tanner> perhaps with a completely clean install, but none of the kernel updates has proved to fix it, at least on my machine.
[19:38] <Amaranth> well if you enjoy pain and hate nvidia you can try the intrepid kernel
[19:39] <tanner> no nvidia support with intrepid?
[19:39] <Amaranth> not yet
[19:39] <Amaranth> we have a 2.6.26-rc6 kernel with Xen support
[19:40] <Amaranth> probably the weirdest setup you can possible have right now :P
[19:40] <DanaG> Argh, I can only seem to ever use Flash with sound ONCE per time of starting Firefox.
[19:40] <DanaG> After that, all flash videos crash.
[19:40] <Amaranth> DanaG: hello libflashsupport
[19:41] <DanaG> Yp.
[19:41] <DanaG> Yup.  Even with Flash 10.
[19:41] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I figured out why my AwesomeBar kept freezing:
[19:42] <DanaG> I had over 700 old bookmarks accumulated in my bookmarks toolbar.
[19:42] <DanaG> Oh wait..... I don't even have libflashsupport installed.
[19:43] <DanaG> Heh, at least I have nspluginwrapper, so Flash doesn't take down the whole browser.
[19:44] <Amaranth> oh, in that case I blame flash 10
[19:44] <Amaranth> it is alpha
[19:44] <Amaranth> in the closed-source world alpha really does mean alpha, it doesn't mean "we want to give this more time but it works fine now"
[19:47] <DanaG> Frankly, I won't be surprised if it still does this crashing in the final of Flash 10.
[20:29] <lastent> hi, is the alpha1 ready_
[20:29] <lastent> ?
[21:56] <WelshDragon> Hey :) Are there any known bugs with Intrepid Ibex and the nvidia drivers?
[21:57] <adam7> WelshDragon, according to an exchange that occurred here a few hours ago, they don't work
[21:58] <WelshDragon> oki doki :)
[22:02] <DanaG> I haven't had any issues, since I haven't installed the new kernel.
[22:03] <WelshDragon> Aye that's when i started having the issue. I get the same issues in the old kernel still mind. In the new kernel my i get a crackling when ever any sound is played.
[22:07] <DanaG> New as in 2.6.26, or new as in 2.6.24-19-generic?
[22:08] <DanaG> The latter was pushed out to Hardy, but not to Intrepid, it seems.
[22:08] <WelshDragon> 26, 24-19 has worked flawlessly
[22:08] <WelshDragon> same problem in 26-1 and 26-2
[22:10] <WelshDragon> Has there been any news on when the First alpha will be released aswell or not?
[23:05] <amikrop> Hello. Where can I set which Window Decorator I want to use (I bet, in some file, I replace the word "gtk-window-decorator" with the word "foo", where "foo" is the window decorator of my choice)?
[23:06] <mvo> if you have emerald installed it will be automatically used
[23:06] <mvo> /usr/bin/compiz-decorator is the place otherwise
[23:07] <amikrop> mvo: Alright. Thanks.
[23:45] <gluer> upgraded to intrepid last night, works fine, just my logitech bluetooth KB is having trouble initialising
[23:50] <DanaG> Argh, why does iwl3945 only connect at 36 megabits?
[23:50] <DanaG> When I'm in Windows, it connects at 54 megabits.
[23:52] <WelshDragon> 54 here
[23:58] <DanaG> Also, PulseAudio isn't showing other computers' PulseAudio sources and sinks.
[23:58] <DanaG> The service-discovery-applet thingy sees it, but PulseAudio does not.