[00:36] I just bought my first sata drives (three of them) and created a raid 5. Now one is failing. How do I know which physical drive it is? Its /dev/sdb [00:51] New bug: #241796 in openssh (main) "sshd doesn't start properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241796 [01:01] captbaritone: Are you sure it's failing or you just didn't configure it correctly? If you jsut bought it, you must have bought a gimp drive [01:01] I don't know the answer to your question, however [01:02] I got some help in ubuntu-california [01:02] I am investigating the posibility of a gimp drive [01:02] but as I do hdparm -i /dev/sdb will tell me its serial number [01:32] New bug: #241802 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysql clients ignore port specification when connecting to "localhost"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241802 [01:34] Because it's using a socket? [04:28] Hi, I'm running into a few issues here with Ubuntu Server and removing a few packages. When I installed xfce4 and xorg-xserver, and ubuntu-xen-server package, it tried to install policykit, xserver-xorg-input-wacom and xen-utils-3.2 which are all reporting Segmentation Faults [04:29] Later on, I had tried to install Konqueror, and the dependency konqueror-nsplugins is also causing a segmentation fault. it was originally installed as Ubuntu Feisty, but I used some console update-manager script to upgrade to Ubuntu Hardy [04:30] Bashew: Did you upgrade Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy or direct to Hardy? [04:31] I'm not entirely sure, hold on, let me find that package i used, really quick [04:31] I ran do-release-upgrade [04:31] and I think it went direct to Hardy [04:32] That's a problem in and of itself. It shouldn't do that. [04:33] there weren't any problems then, so I installed linux-xen, and that went successfully, but then later I read on a tutorial site that I could install ubuntu-xen-server, which would install several other packages [04:34] and on top of other things, my dedi provider's techs are all out for the night, so would there be any alternative that I could try before getting it wiped clean? [04:34] You should probably want an xfce desktop or a kde desktop and install them or if you want to run a server. [04:34] Sure. [04:35] I'd suggest starting to remove stuff that's giving your problems. [04:35] I tried that, and thats also causing segmentation faults :/ [04:35] !pastebin [04:35] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [04:35] Please pastebin the exact error you're getting. [04:35] OK [04:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/21730/ [04:36] * ScottK-laptop looks [04:36] I'm not sure if I should have tried to remove Hal, but it was causing issues [04:38] what happens if you try "sudo apt-get -f install" (don't hit Y, just tell me what it says it's going to do)? [04:39] says the new packages are going ot be installed: "cryptsetup kdebase-kio-plugins konqueror-nsplugins", and reccomended packages are hal, kamera, kdemultimedia-kio-plugins and pmount [04:40] At this point we will probably have to install a bunch of crap to get your system back to a consistent state, so I'd try that. [04:40] OK [04:40] is there any metapackage to simplify this? [04:40] You've got bits of two, so probably not. [04:41] Normally that's better, but we're goint to have to find the path out of your current mess and I don't forsee a shortcut workin. [04:42] This will probably fail again in an interesting way. Pastebin that please. [04:42] OK [04:44] hold on, sorry im a bit confused, do you want me to run the apt-get -f again [04:45] It should ask you if you want to go ahead. Say yes. [04:45] If you said no the first time, do it again. [04:45] OK [04:46] let me pastebin this, just a sec [04:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/21734/ [04:47] Looking [04:47] it ran into a few errors, as you guessed [04:49] I've not seen Konqueror do that, but I don't run it without a kubuntu-desktop. [04:49] i didn't run an install for Kubuntu-desktop [04:49] I just tried to install konqueror by itself [04:49] In theory that should work. [04:50] OK, so i'll try installing kubuntu desktop [04:50] That's what I was about to suggest. [04:50] OK [04:50] just waiting for it to download [04:50] I'm suprised at the segfaults. I think it suggests something more fundamentally wrong with the system, but let's see. [04:51] Are you confident that the hardware is in good shape? [04:51] i'm not entirely sure, as the hardware is new [04:51] if this keeps up, tomorrow I'll ask the provider to slap a KVMoIP on it, and I'll run Memtest [04:52] In general you ought to avoid putting X and such things on a server. [04:54] I was planning to do it was a temp. fix, as I needed to copy a few folders of info from the old dedi [04:54] and to be honest im not too skilled in SCP [04:55] Do you run Kubuntu or Ubuntu on your desktop? [04:55] Ubuntu [04:56] and 3 mins eta on the server [04:56] I'm not sure how you do it with Ubuntu (I use Kubuntu) but with Konqueror you can run it on the desktop and manipulate the remote file system with SFTP. [04:56] No need to install X and such on the server itself. [04:57] well I mean, my provider has this LAN system setup between my two servers, and i didn't want to blow through 60GB of bandwidth both ways :/ [04:57] then again, I could have tried using it over X11 Forwarding [04:58] There's also rsync too. It's not so hard to do and doesn't need a gui. [04:58] ive never considered that, honestly [04:59] ssh into one server and rsync to/from the other. No trouble at all. [04:59] OK, it finished, but there are still some Segfaults [04:59] Same ones? [04:59] yeah, konqueror [05:00] I wonder if somehow your copy is corrupted. [05:00] I cleared the cache [05:01] What architecture is the install (i386?) [05:01] i386 [05:01] i'm curious though [05:02] if Xen might be causing some of this, but i don't want to ptu blame on it yet [05:02] Considering you've modified the kernel by installing it, it's a good bet. [05:02] can you wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14327368/konqueror_3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb [05:03] OK [05:03] Then sudo dkpkg -i konqueror_3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb [05:03] urgh [05:03] same problem, Segfault [05:03] dpkg [05:03] I'm gonna start to blame your kernel. [05:03] What Xen packages do you have installed. [05:04] uh, xen-tools-3.1, the newest initrd and newest kernel [05:04] I didn't think it was out for 2.6.24 yet [05:04] 2.6.24-19-xen [05:04] thats what uname reports [05:05] OK. [05:05] Konqueror and policykit don't generally segault all over the place. [05:06] I'd get Xen off if it was me and get your kernel as back to normal as possible. [05:06] OK [05:08] ...this has got to be kidding me [05:09] the Xen packages are broken, I'll go reorder the grub entries to put the normal one on top [05:13] ScottK-laptop: Removing Xen seems to work [05:13] Thank you very much :D [05:14] Bashew: Now that it's working, remove all that X crap off your server. It'll only cause you pain there. [05:14] Yeah [05:15] would running aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop take out most of the packages? [05:16] Probably, you'll also need to remove the xfce4 stuff too. [05:17] I was able to remove that earlier, luckily [05:17] then again, while I do have X working and Konqueror working, I might as well transfer the data [07:13] New bug: #241427 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "package network-manager-openvpn 0.3.2svn2342-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato (dup-of: 241550)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241427 [07:53] Hi, I'm not a linux/sysadmin guru, but I have some Q's related to Ubuntu-server, Amazon's AWS EC2 service, Condor and Redhat's MRG effort... anyone willing/able to chat? [07:54] if you have specific questions ... [07:55] OK, is there an ubuntu effort comparable to Redhat's MRG? [07:56] whats is that? [07:58] Kamping_Kaiser: The following says it better than I could :) http://www.redhat.com/mrg/ [07:59] MRG: Messaging-Relatime-Grid [07:59] * Kamping_Kaiser waits for it to load [08:00] theres not one that i'm aware of [08:00] Is anyone using Ubuntu-AMI's with Condor? [08:01] How would I find if Condor is a fully maintained package on Ubuntu? I see a page that lists 'common packages' but Condor is not listed... [08:03] depends what 'fully maintained' means. but packages.ubuntu.com could tell you where it is. [08:03] i guess 'fully maintained' in ubuntu would mean 'main' [08:06] Hmm, Condor isn't listed for hardy on packages.ubuntu.com. So what do people use for a batch-job manager? [08:07] unless i misunderstand ... cron? [08:09] Thinking more of 'industrial' scale. Say manage 10's of 1000's of heterogenous jobs amongst 10's of machines [08:10] hello [08:10] anyone here know about converting hard raid? [08:11] cluserssh perhaps (but i'll let people who have experiance with such things speak up) [08:17] hedge-ho1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuOnCluster [08:20] nijaba: Thanks, I was digging, without luck, through https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu [08:21] hedge-ho1: hmm... might have been too quick, not sure there is what you need there [08:23] nijaba: That's OK. That looks like a effort similar to Rocks. My use case would be on Amazons EC2. Which is my next question... [08:24] Are people using Ubuntu server AMIs on EC2, is it supported? [08:25] hedge-ho1: we are working to have something for EC2 in 8.10, at the moment there is a cludge that runs but is not supported. Cannot tell more ate the moment [08:25] s/ate/at [08:26] nijaba: Who is 'we': Canonical, another firm or some community? [08:26] hedge-ho1: canonical [08:27] OK sounds promising. Does this effort involve merging Redhats MRG results? Or is something seperate? [08:28] hedge-ho1: if you send me an email address, I'll send you more info as soon as I can [08:30] anyone know how to convery raid1 hard to raid0? [08:30] bestpvp, via backup would be my suggestion :) [08:36] bestpvp: yep, going from one to the other implies killing all data in between. [08:37] np [08:37] well let me show u what it looks like [08:38] p0 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 5QD1125A [08:38] p1 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 5QD18D97 [08:38] thats hardware raid ppl say [08:41] but u can convert it to raid0? [08:58] * delcoyote hi === bestpvp is now known as viperserv2 [10:44] moin [12:51] New bug: #241892 in net-snmp (main) "[CVE-2008-2292] Buffer overflow in __snprint_value() in snmp_get" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241892 [15:10] hello, i am trying to configure n-node replication with slapd [16:59] new guy... looking to find out possibilites about server [17:00] is it possible to build a domain with an AD type of layout [17:36] i have two ldap servers i would like to replicate info between them, what is the best way? [17:46] hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 8.04 in a P2 and after it saying that is launching the partioner, it stops with the bluescreen and in the bottom a single gray line [17:46] any help? [17:48] tharis20: how much disk space do you have? [17:49] nealmcb, 6GB in total with 700MB from Windows that I don't need [17:50] the PC is old [17:50] P2 350Mhz with 64MB ram [17:50] wow === sethalton is now known as GeekSquadSF [17:50] hitting cntl-alt-f1 and/or f2 might show you some more info - I forget [17:50] sergevn, lol, it is old, I know [17:51] now i pressed alt+F4 [17:51] and it shows a log [17:52] Jun 21 16:43:54 partman: Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while [17:52] i think that 9 minutes are more than a while [17:53] tharis20: check /var/log, there might be two files, system and partman, check if there is any strange log there [17:56] Ali_ix, how will i do that if the system isn't installed? [17:56] do you guys know if it's possible to use ubuntu server as a AD structure? [17:57] GeekSquadSF: if by AD you mean ActiveDirectory you should take a look at Samba [17:57] Tharis_ check that in virtual terminals (ctrl+alt+f2-f8) [17:58] GeekSquadSF: we're making progress - look at the blueprints - but not all the way there yet [18:00] e.g. I think there are ways to have samba be the interface between clients and an AD master, but samba can't yet do everything that some clients want [18:02] Ali_ix, i'm goin' to do this from the beggining [18:05] Tharis_: the alternate installer cd can also deal better with smaller systems [18:05] what alternate? [18:05] look at the download page - that's the name [18:27] anyone know how to convert raid1 to raid0 [18:37] Hi [18:38] Is it possible to make the system auto start a script after boot and run it from my user? [18:38] I have a script that startas some services but they must be started from my user. [18:38] Ballena: you can put it in /etc/rc.local, with an su -u username [18:40] sorry - no "-u" option - that's for sudo... [18:40] just su username [18:41] nealmcb: ok. So in the /etc/r.local file i write liek this "/home/ballena/.start-script.sh su ballena" ? [18:41] like* [18:42] su -c /home/ballena/.start-script.sh ballena [18:42] nealmcb: sounds like magic, I hope it works. I'm going to try that. Thanks! [18:43] :) [18:43] you probably want to test it first, remembering that the environment it gets won't have much in it [18:45] environment? [18:45] what does the script do? [18:45] see the "env" command [18:45] nealmcb: it starts a session of screen. and in the screen session it start: rtorrent, irssi, tmsnc and top. [18:46] seems reasonable - so long as it isn't expecting ssh keys, $DISPLAY, etc [18:48] I don't think so. [18:49] About the environment. # man env did not tell me so much. But do you mean that when you start something with su -c X ballena it does not start with all privileges that the user ballena usually have? [18:51] it is about information, not really privileges, if you type just "env" you'll see lots of settings. those setting are inherited from parent processes. you won't have common settings for things like DISPLAY when started from rc.local [18:53] ok. The $DISPLAY you mentioned, what is that? I get nothing when I type 'echo $DISPLAY' [18:54] you only see that when you use X11 - and we have plenty of visitors who assume that servers run guis :/ [18:54] (or gnome, etc) [18:55] ok :) As far as I know I don't have X installed so then the $DISPLAy is probably nothing to worry about. [18:55] * nealmcb nods [18:56] going to try the /etc/r.local method now. brb [18:57] hi guys, I'm using capistrano to setup my Ubuntu server using scripts. I want to install a package like mysql-server using apt-get, but dpkg-configure I think launches a process called whiplash which displays a curses-like GUI asking me to set the root password. Is there any way I can tell apt-get to ignore that step? [19:01] mweichert: hmm - there are ways to set the priority level for debconf [19:01] nealmcb: oh? [19:01] New bug: #241952 in nagios-plugins (main) "check_disk_smb doesn't deal with special characters in the password fields correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241952 [19:02] mweichert: tell me more about how you're using capistrano, what sorts of scripts etc [19:04] nealmcb: well capistrano connects to my server using ssh, and runs apt-get to install packages required for the deployment of an application. Some of the necessary packages include apache, build-essential, and mysql-server. The first two (and their dependencies) get installed no problem, but I get hung up at mysql-server because of debconf [19:07] hmmm - apt-get man pages says nothing about debconf priorities.... [19:08] I'll brb, I'm gonna try just sending across the channels the password [19:08] mweichert: you can also use a preseed configuration, but I haven't done much of that [19:09] nealmcb: yeah, I've done that in the past... [19:10] nealmcb: I could do that I suppose, but if there was a way to preseed apt-get I'd be much happier :) [19:12] nealmcb: when I run 'su -c /home/ballena/.screen-start.sh ballena' in a normal terminal it prompts for a password. Wouldent it be the same if you put that command in the /etc/rc.local? because it did not work. [19:12] hmm, it seems that whiptail isn't sent across the ssh channel, so I can't send the password and a carriage return or newline to get by it [19:14] Ballena: ahh - prompting for passwords is another of those tricky things - the process probably doesn't really know which terminal to use [19:14] hi. anyone here having kolab running on 8.04? [19:15] nealmcb: hmm ok [19:15] Ballena: which apps are asking for what kinds of passwords? [19:16] nealmcb: probably the su, but I don't know. http://paste.ubuntu.com/21885/ [19:20] Ballena: no - you're already root so su shouldn't need a pw [19:20] nealmcb: sure? i'm root but I'm trying to run something for the user erikw. [19:20] root can do anything [19:21] except know passwords for random commands. one of the scripts may depend on $HOME or something like that [19:21] the "-l" argument to su may also help - it gives a login environment [19:22] nealmcb: ! you probably right. I'm using ~ in some paths in the scripts [19:23] and that will refer to the roots home when i run it from rc.local. [19:29] * nealmcb notes a slightly faster return this time around for Ballena [19:31] My server is a rather old computer and I am afraid its built in usb ports might be usb one, is there a way to find out? [19:31] nealmcb: Works like a charm. Thank you 1000 times! [19:32] :)) [19:35] captbaritone: lsusb might tell you [19:36] captbaritone: or dmesg|grep usb [19:40] anyone here having kolab running on ubuntu 8.04 server? === ScottK is now known as ScottK2 === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [19:42] fdg: if you're having problems with it, go ahead and ask more specific questions [19:47] ok. i sat up the server, on which bind and samba works fine. when i install slapd, that can bei started by "/etc/init.d/slapd start" - a "ps ax" shows it running. then i stop it again and run "kolab_bootstrap -b", which after having entered the deafult values stops whith "chown: cannot access `/var/lib/ldap/*': No such file or directory". [19:47] after that trying to start slapd doesn't work anymore [19:48] Insomnia1ity, nealmcb: no luck [19:48] well [19:49] dmesg did refer to it as a "full speed usb devce" whatever that means === QUILz_ is now known as QUILz [20:03] i am trying to configure slapd to replicate from a master server but when i start it it just dies [20:07] incorrect, you using heartbeat or something like that? [20:08] i was being dumb, its a parse error in the config [20:08] ok :) [20:08] i had been using suse at work, sigh and was looking in messages [20:08] wish i could figure out this n-way replication [20:11] incorrect, what do you wan't to replicate? [20:11] ldap [20:11] incorrect, the server config files or data? [20:11] data [20:11] incorrect, try DRBD [20:12] no no, openldap 2.4 supports multi master replication now [20:12] drdb is way too heavy over my vpn [20:13] incorrect, http://www.highlandsun.com/hyc/ldapguide/replication.html [20:13] that miught help ya [20:13] no [20:13] that is slurpd that is cack [20:13] that is version 2.2 [20:14] hardy is shipping with 2.4 that does n-way replication [20:14] however i can't create the objects needed [20:14] i wouldn't know, i don't really use ldap [20:15] ldap is awesome for system admin [20:15] just for some reason i can't get replication working in ubuntu [20:15] used to have it in rhel [20:17] maybe there's a bug or something [20:18] well rhel was using 2.3 at the time [20:18] 2.4 is a big update ditching all the old replication methods [20:30] thank you for listening :) i understood why :) [20:30] i am such a retard, i only ever understand a problem if i talk about it [20:48] w00t :) whatever that means :) [21:42] soren: empty packages? [21:42] nxvl: Only the stuff from /usr/share/doc is in there. [21:43] nxvl: You've commented out dh_install in debian/rules. [21:43] So the files are never moved into the package directories. [21:43] mm [21:43] * nxvl looks [21:44] I replaced it, added --sourcedir=debian/tmp, and prefixed /usr in debian/augeas-tools.install, and it seems to work now. [21:44] heh [21:44] :D [21:44] You should rename augeas-dev to libaugeas-dev [21:45] yes [21:45] i was having some doubt's on the binary names [21:45] The package descriptions are the same for all three packages. That's not right. You can look at something like libvirt for inpiration. [21:46] soren: i used the rpm package as base and example and it was this way :P and i was a little busy and lazy [21:47] lintian gives me a bunch of errors, when I run it on the .deb's. You should fix those. [21:47] No worries :) [21:48] lintian? [21:48] mm [21:48] * nxvl chacks [21:48] i hade clean lintian [21:48] had* [21:50] Well, with empty packages, you would :) [21:50] well i think i don't run lintian on the packages [21:51] None of the packages contain augeas' lenses. [21:53] mm [21:53] i knew i should't trust on the rpm packagin [21:53] You probably want to either ship those in libaugeas0 or in a separate augeas-lenses package and have libaugeas0 depend on it. [21:54] mmm [21:54] i think augeas-lenses it's a cool one, don't you [21:54] ? [21:54] I think that's what I'd do, yes. [21:56] and the section for -lenses would be? libs also [21:58] misc, I guess. [21:58] it's my first time packaging a multibinary and mixed package [21:59] (as in binary + lib) [21:59] so i'm kind of suffering with it [22:01] Well, feel free to ask. [22:03] soren: datadir is /usr/share, didn't it? [22:04] Yes. [22:16] soren: how do you see they where empty? using less? [22:21] soren: i have just uploaded a new version of the package [22:21] soren: can you please take a look and send me an e-mail please, since i need to run [22:26] * nxvl HUGS soren [22:26] soren: thanks for your help!