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Speckalhi all00:38
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* IFlyGTi is away -( I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that... )- at 09:08p -( P:Off / L:Off )-02:08
homebrewciderhey there, got a dual boot system, xubuntu being default, plugged a USB keyboard in, works in Xubuntu fine, but when son goes to select Windoze on boot, it won't let him go down to the windoze part at the boot screen02:34
homebrewciderany ideas?02:34
Odd-rationalehomebrewcider: does the keyboard not work at all in the boot menu (GRUB) ?02:36
cody-somervillehomebrewcider, his computer is too old and his bios doesn't support USB02:36
Odd-rationaleah, i didn't realize that there were computers that old... :)02:37
homebrewcidertried to hit the down button but to no avail02:37
cody-somervilleOdd-rationale, plug in a psaux keyboard and it'll work fine02:37
cody-somervilleer02:37
cody-somervillehomebrewcider,02:37
homebrewciderI can boot to a usb drive if necessary so that would mean the bios was fine wouldn't it?02:38
homebrewciderI'll work on this later02:42
cody-somervilleIt isn't that the bios doesn't "support" usb02:44
cody-somervilleit doesn't support taking usb input02:45
phaedrus__I have been having trouble running ubuntu on my thinkpad, and was wondering if Xubuntu might work better, but I'm not really sure what the difference is04:21
nubuntuhola guys.  can anyone tell me another possibility to fix my screenres?  i tried changing the default depth in x11 file to 16, but there were no apparent differences.07:36
lc2nubuntu: define "fix my screenres"07:37
lc2nubuntu: netsplit, you missed my question07:41
lc207:37 < lc2> nubuntu: define "fix my screenres"07:41
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kripzmy touchpad keeps pasting when i use the scroller... how do i stop this?09:41
kripzit seems to be vertical scroll causin it09:42
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gabkdllykripz: sounds like some crazy third mouse button action going on.  You could try deactivating the third mouse button in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:54
kripzive disabled emulate3button or whatever but that didnt do it09:54
gabkdllyhmmm, http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html09:59
gabkdllydoes that help?09:59
gabkdllyI am guessing you want to change your mouse from a three button to a two button10:00
gabkdllyOption "Buttons" "2"10:03
gabkdllyyou might try just adding that10:03
gabkdllyin the proper section of course10:03
kripzi cant restart X yet so ill try it later10:05
kripzgabkdlly, do you know what the button combo involving scroll is to paste?10:06
gabkdllypressing the middle mouse button (per default) pastes whatever you last highlighted10:07
gabkdllyon my mouse, the scroll wheel also serves as the middle mouse button10:07
gabkdllyI think a lot of mouses are built like that10:08
gabkdllymice :)10:08
gabkdllyso, I guess Xorg is getting confused when it gets taps on the "scroll wheel", which is (I am guessing) just a region on your track pad10:09
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* Narfee is away: mi tawa taso ilo toki mi li open10:22
kripzwell im tapping it, and its not doing anything10:23
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kripzis it possible to find the value of a setting currently used by X? i need to find the value of an autodetected value12:02
lc2yes it should be12:03
lc2what do you want to find out?12:03
kripzButtons12:03
lc2buttons?12:03
kripzOption "Buttons" "integer"12:05
kripzSpecifies the number of mouse buttons. In cases where the number of buttons cannot be auto-detected, the default value is 3. The maximum number is 24.12:05
lc2oh okay12:06
lc2lemme look12:06
lc2grep 'Configured Mouse\: Buttons\:' /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:09
lc2although that tells me i have nine, lawl.12:09
kripzhmm12:11
lc24 and 5 being the mousewheel12:11
kripztrying to figure out my problem when i scroll using the touchpad and i end up pasting12:11
lc2kripz: you need to set your Z-axis mapping manually12:12
lc2inb4 "how do you do that", i don't know but i can find out for you12:13
kripzcurrently its at grep 'Configured Mouse\: Buttons\:' /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:13
kripz grep 'Configured Mouse\: ZAxisMapping\:' /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:13
kripz(**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 512:13
kripzalthought i dont know what that means12:14
lc2the Z axis is what a scroll wheel usually operates12:15
kripzok so i mapped negative motion to button 4, and positive to 5, that sounds correct12:15
lc2scroll down = button 5, scroll up = button 4 normally12:16
lc2that's what most mice do12:16
lc2brb tea12:16
lc2okay, kettle's on12:17
lc2what you need to do, is figure out what buttons are being sent when you scroll using the touchpad12:17
lc2you can do that by opening xev in a terminal and watching what happens in the terminal as you do so in teh window12:18
kripzok12:20
lc2do me something, press every button in aforementioned xev window and tell me what buttons send what12:20
lc2and we can try a temp fix with xmodmap before screwing with your xorg.conf12:21
kripzlc2, 5/4, but i do have Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"12:21
kripzok ill try every button12:21
kripzleft = 1, right = 3, left+right = 2, vert scroll = 4up, 5 odwn, hori= 6left, 7 right12:25
kripzlc2, tapping sections of the vert scroll rfesults in different buttons12:26
lc2hm, what12:26
lc2and vert scroll makes you paste12:26
lc2?12:26
kripzyes12:27
kripztapping the very top of vert scroll results in button 212:27
kripzwhich is middle mouse click?12:27
kripzi think thats the prob12:27
lc2yes, that is12:27
lc2*thinks*12:27
kripzhttp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html12:28
lc2thinkpad by any chance?12:29
kripzxorg says synaptic touch pad12:29
lc2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54474712:29
lc2try that12:30
kripzhmm none of these settings have any affect12:41
wbadgerhello, I've just installed xubuntu 8.04 which also reinstalled grub, and when I try to boot into it I get "Starting up" and the screen freezes. Can anyone help?13:50
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WhoNeedszzzHey guys. I put the battery monitor plugin into the taskbar but it for time remaining it constantly shows 00:00. Why is it doing that?17:09
cody-somervilleWhat version of Xubuntu are you running?17:09
WhoNeedszzzhardy17:09
cody-somervillePlease file a bug :)17:11
xbitcarryHi all, good day.17:11
WhoNeedszzzugh17:17
WhoNeedszzzi hate that17:17
xbitcarryWhat?17:19
lc2..17:29
cyziehi, does upgrade check for foreign package (custom package) and it will break the upgrade?18:22
bulliumhow often does xubuntu update packages?19:44
Odd-rationalebullium: depends, really...19:45
bulliumI've just noticed that ubuntu has upgraded to firefox 3 and xubuntu is still on beta 5...I mean I've downloaded firefox 3 from mozilla's site so I'm running the latest anyway...just curious is all19:50
Odd-rationalebullium: strange. all the *buntus uses the same repos... so you whould be able to install anything you can in ubuntu. maybe you need to update your repo? (sudo apt-get update) or you might have a slow mirror...19:53
bulliumOdd-rationale: I prolly do20:00
bulliumOdd-rationale: yep slow mirror...changed to a new mirror 114 updates including firefox :)20:07
rockyrockhi guys20:56
Odd-rationalerockyrock: hi20:56
rockyrockI'm a C programmer, how can i help in developing xubuntu??20:58
rockyrockhello!!! I want to help!20:59
rockyrockanybody!20:59
kibibytehi21:00
kibibytehow to add remove programs entries  from menu21:00
kibibytefrom start menu21:00
eagohi.... i was wondering if other then the windows manager are there more differences between ubuntu and xubuntu21:04
TheSheep!xubuntu21:04
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels21:04
TheSheepeago: basically only the set of default applications21:05
kibibytehelp21:05
kibibyteTheSheep, help21:05
TheSheepkibibyte: settings->settings manager->menu editor21:05
eagook... thanks21:05
kibibytebut its empty21:05
TheSheepkibibyte: yes, so you can add to it21:06
kibibytei mean there are no entries from my menu21:06
kibibytejust some separators and system21:06
eagoso... if i install ubuntu and then a lightweight windows manager it will be justa s fast? i plan to install in an old puter21:06
TheSheepkibibyte: it's merged with the automatically-generated menu21:06
kibibytewhere can i find this auto menu21:06
TheSheepkibibyte: it's generated dunamically from your installed applications21:07
TheSheepkibibyte: from files in /usr/share/applications/21:07
whileimhereHi. Is there a way to reset my desktop back to its default look with a panel on the top and bottom etc without having to do it manually?21:07
TheSheepwhileimhere: yes, you can just delete your config from .config/xfce4/xfce4-panel21:08
kibibyteTheSheep, which file?21:08
whileimhereCan I do that while I am in XFCE and then restart X?21:08
TheSheepkibibyte: all of them21:08
TheSheepkibibyte: one per application21:08
whileimhereSorry I got bumped can you please repeat your answer21:09
TheSheepwhileimhere: it's kept in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ , you can delete it and then it will reset to defaults21:10
whileimhereOkay I have deleted the panel folder now just re-start X?21:11
TheSheepyes21:11
whileimhereokay here I go21:11
whileimhereThank you so much that worked!21:13
whileimhereI have panels back and everything is very nice.21:13
whileimhereDo the panels have the ability to become transparent?21:14
TheSheepyes, if you have compositing enabled in window manager tweaks in settings21:14
TheSheep(last tab)21:14
whileimhereI know this will sound silly but is XFCE really that much less resource intense than KDE?21:15
Odd-rationalegenerally speaking, yes.21:15
TheSheepespecially the file manager21:15
whileimhereOk the programs I mostly use anymore are DigiKam, Amorak, and K3B I should not have any issues with those on here should I ?21:16
TheSheepthough it's at the cost of sume functionality21:16
TheSheepwhileimhere: no, but they will look out of place, as they are kde apps21:16
Odd-rationalewhileimhere: try f-spot, banshee, and brasero as replacements...21:16
TheSheepbleh, banshee21:16
whileimhereHonestly from a pro photo standpoint f-spot leaves way to much to be desired.21:16
Odd-rationalewhileimhere: plus, running kde apps will start up extra lib and stuff...21:16
TheSheepit's not really lighter :)21:16
whileimhereI see.21:17
whileimhereSo KDE is what I should stay with then21:17
TheSheepexaile looks like amarok21:17
kibibyteTheSheep, but i see NetBeans entry in my menu and i canot find any file for netbeans in the directory you told me21:17
kibibytei want to remove it21:17
TheSheepkibibyte: maybe just uninstall netbeans if you don't want it?21:18
kibibytei uninstalled it but it still there21:18
TheSheepkibibyte: how did you install it in the first place?21:18
kibibytewith netbeans install script21:19
kibibyteand it added menu entry somehow21:19
TheSheepand how did you uninstall?21:19
kibibyteremove dirs21:19
TheSheepapparently it left a lot of trash behind, that wasn't very wise21:20
kibibytei removed all .netbeans files21:20
TheSheepkibibyte: check ~/.local/share/applications/21:20
kibibyteok its there :d21:21
kibibyteholland - russia 1:1 !!!!21:27
hyppiasis wammu useful to connect to a nokia 6021 ?22:53
hyppiasis wammu useful to connect to a nokia 6021 ?22:56
xbj9000hyppias this channel tends to be dead, try asking in plain old #ubuntu22:56
hyppiaslots of pl around here ....22:57
hyppiasppl22:57
hyppiaspeople22:57
hyppiasdead nevertheless ?22:57
xbj9000yeah but I think they are all way having coffee lol22:57
xbj9000your question doesn't sound xubuntu specific so I'd try #ubuntu22:58
hyppiasonly in Brazil they have this much coffee....22:58
kibibytewha23:01
kibibyte?#23:01
pottytheshitterso heres to osama that son of a bitch may his pecker fall off with a 7 year itch23:14
cody-somerville: (23:15
billeniumHello, i just installed xubuntu (i had gnome..) with sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. Then i restarted. I selected to login with xfce and when it did, it just showed a COMPLETELY light blue screen with my mouse on it... Why cant i use xubuntu?23:21
cody-somervillebillenium, Hi, that is a known bug.23:21
cody-somervillebillenium, bug #23236423:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 232364 in dbus "dbus-launch hangs at session start waiting on socket output in libxcb" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23236423:21
cody-somervilleThere is a workaround listed in the bug.23:22
billeniumOkay well in the workaround i dont know how to do the first one :P23:23
billeniumso i guess i just have to restart...23:23
billeniumA couple times23:23
cody-somervillejust push ctrl + alt + backspace23:23
billeniumah okay23:23
billeniumThen attempt to login? Then do that over and over until it stops?23:24
cody-somervilleIt'll only restart X which is much quicker then restarting your computer.23:24
billeniumokay thanks23:24
billeniumbye bye :P23:24
cody-somervilleYou can also press ctrl + alt + F123:24
cody-somervilleIT'll put you in the virtual terminal23:24
cody-somervilleAnd you can login and type:23:24
billeniumdbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session23:24
billenium?23:24
cody-somervilleno23:24
cody-somervilleps x23:24
cody-somervilleand find the pid number of "dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session"23:25
billeniumokay23:25
cody-somervilleand then type: kill -9 <pid>23:25
billeniumwell ill try CRTL+ALT+BACK first :P23:25
cody-somervillereplacing <pid> with the pid of the processes23:25
cody-somervilleOkay :)23:25
billeniumokay23:25
billeniumLook at that!23:26
billeniumSo what are the main differences between xubuntu and ubuntu... gnome and xfce?23:26
cody-somervilleIt worked? :)23:26
billeniumYup :)23:26
TheSheepwhat's xcb exactly?23:26
cody-somervilleTheSheep, a library that is supposed to be better than libx11 or something23:27
cody-somervillebillenium, The packages installed by default is the difference, yes. :)23:27
TheSheepgotta love race conditions23:27
cheeseboyis there anyway i can get ossv4 to work with mednafen?23:27
billeniumcody: i really did this because i messed up the gnome-panels... FUBAR23:27
billeniumI like xubuntu better to :P23:28
cody-somervillebillenium, awesome :)23:28
cody-somervillebillenium, sorry about that bug :(23:28
* cody-somerville is working really hard to fix it but it is a nasty one :(23:28
billeniumNo prob23:28
billeniumHow is it possible to obtain the source of (x)ubuntu?23:28
cody-somervillebillenium, Are you looking for a specific package?23:28
billeniumna23:29
TheSheepcody-somerville: I see the other one, where it waited half a minute after prompting for passords, is fixed23:29
cody-somervilleTheSheep, what other one?23:29
billeniumI have to go! bye bye cody23:29
* cody-somerville waves.23:29
cheeseboyis there anyway i can get ossv4 to work with mednafen?23:43
cody-somerville_cheeseboy, I'd ask crimsun_23:44
cody-somerville_cheeseboy, or better yet, poke into #ubuntustudio23:44
cody-somerville_Lots of sound experts there23:44
cheeseboyis crimsun_ around?23:46
cody-somerville_He appears away23:46
cheeseboy:(23:47
TheSheepmednafen doesn't use alsa?23:50
cheeseboyit uses alsa23:50
cheeseboyi wast to use oss23:51
ramierwhats a tool to see the amount of network traffic produced by processes23:53
ramierso i know which ones are using the network a lot23:54
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cheeseboyTheSheep, any idea how to get kit to work?23:57

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