/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/22/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

ir8Hello all I have a few questions about driver support./00:58
ir8anyone around ?00:58
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Q-FUNKhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/15434295/00001.jpg17:00
Q-FUNKI started getting this since upgrading to Hardy, on one particular piece of hardware.17:00
Q-FUNKrelated to bug #241307 on LP17:01
Q-FUNKI have no idea how to decode that ksoops message or how to solve it.17:02
Q-FUNKwould anybody know?17:02
mjg59Q-FUNK: Having the previous lines would help a great deal17:05
mjg59But I'd guess bad hardware17:06
Q-FUNKmjg59: I doubt that. reverting to the gutsy kernel fixes it.17:07
mjg59Hm17:07
mjg59Well, it really needs more of the backtrace17:07
Q-FUNKmjg59: I welcome instructions on how to get that17:08
Q-FUNKright now, the hardware freezes right at that point.17:08
mjg59Boot in a higher resolution?17:08
Q-FUNKhm. that, I can try. just a sec.17:09
Q-FUNKmjg59: no can do, it seems.  this doesn't have a normal bios. it boots in plain VGA by defualt.17:30
mjg59Pass vga= to the kernel?17:30
Q-FUNKit seems thta it oopses before it gets around parsing that17:31
Q-FUNKthe only bit that remains understandable to me is that it's preciselt related to boot options.17:32
mjg59If it oopsed before it got that far you wouldn't get an oops17:33
Q-FUNKhm17:37
Q-FUNKit says something there about some unknown boot option.  what is it?17:38
mjg59Nothing17:39
mjg59It just usually ends up at the bottom of a backtrace17:40
JanCcan't you use a serial link to debug such things (to get all the messages)?17:44
Q-FUNKno serial port here17:53
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pottytheshitterI ask that the kernel devs add ext4 for intrepid21:52
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kernelmodewow lazy kernel devolpers22:00
JanChint: like most other people the kernel developers are not paid to work during the weekend22:06
JanCand ext4 is still experimental & considered unstable AFAIK22:07
kernelmodeso other big distros include it22:07
JanCthat's their responsibility22:10
kernelmodeGuess what if you ubuntu-devs consider ext4 unstable you should really remove reiserfs 22:11
JanCI think Ubuntu doesn't want to take the risk that people who don't know that it is still unstable loose data after an upgrade...22:11
JanCreiserfs has a stable on-disk format, I think ext4 doesn't have that yet?22:12
kernelmodeahh i see the kernel devs dont want to make there kernel version even more unstable22:15
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ubuntufailssee even the lazy kernel devs are to lazy to admit it22:20
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