[00:58] <ir8> Hello all I have a few questions about driver support./
[00:58] <ir8> anyone around ?
[17:00] <Q-FUNK> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15434295/00001.jpg
[17:00] <Q-FUNK> I started getting this since upgrading to Hardy, on one particular piece of hardware.
[17:01] <Q-FUNK> related to bug #241307 on LP
[17:02] <Q-FUNK> I have no idea how to decode that ksoops message or how to solve it.
[17:02] <Q-FUNK> would anybody know?
[17:05] <mjg59> Q-FUNK: Having the previous lines would help a great deal
[17:06] <mjg59> But I'd guess bad hardware
[17:07] <Q-FUNK> mjg59: I doubt that. reverting to the gutsy kernel fixes it.
[17:07] <mjg59> Hm
[17:07] <mjg59> Well, it really needs more of the backtrace
[17:08] <Q-FUNK> mjg59: I welcome instructions on how to get that
[17:08] <Q-FUNK> right now, the hardware freezes right at that point.
[17:08] <mjg59> Boot in a higher resolution?
[17:09] <Q-FUNK> hm. that, I can try. just a sec.
[17:30] <Q-FUNK> mjg59: no can do, it seems.  this doesn't have a normal bios. it boots in plain VGA by defualt.
[17:30] <mjg59> Pass vga= to the kernel?
[17:31] <Q-FUNK> it seems thta it oopses before it gets around parsing that
[17:32] <Q-FUNK> the only bit that remains understandable to me is that it's preciselt related to boot options.
[17:33] <mjg59> If it oopsed before it got that far you wouldn't get an oops
[17:37] <Q-FUNK> hm
[17:38] <Q-FUNK> it says something there about some unknown boot option.  what is it?
[17:39] <mjg59> Nothing
[17:40] <mjg59> It just usually ends up at the bottom of a backtrace
[17:44] <JanC> can't you use a serial link to debug such things (to get all the messages)?
[17:53] <Q-FUNK> no serial port here
[21:52] <pottytheshitter> I ask that the kernel devs add ext4 for intrepid
[22:00] <kernelmode> wow lazy kernel devolpers
[22:06] <JanC> hint: like most other people the kernel developers are not paid to work during the weekend
[22:07] <JanC> and ext4 is still experimental & considered unstable AFAIK
[22:07] <kernelmode> so other big distros include it
[22:10] <JanC> that's their responsibility
[22:11] <kernelmode> Guess what if you ubuntu-devs consider ext4 unstable you should really remove reiserfs 
[22:11] <JanC> I think Ubuntu doesn't want to take the risk that people who don't know that it is still unstable loose data after an upgrade...
[22:12] <JanC> reiserfs has a stable on-disk format, I think ext4 doesn't have that yet?
[22:15] <kernelmode> ahh i see the kernel devs dont want to make there kernel version even more unstable
[22:20] <ubuntufails> see even the lazy kernel devs are to lazy to admit it