[00:59] <ir8> Hello I have a few question about hardware and where can i get a list of supported hardware.
[04:11] <mrhanky> ok guys i need some help
[04:11] <mrhanky> uhm.. i have a server ubuntu server
[04:11] <mrhanky> and i have a backup server with ubuntu server
[04:11] <mrhanky> it backs up my main server every morn at 6am
[04:12] <mrhanky> now, i want to save on energy
[04:12] <mrhanky> so can i make my backup server hibernate, then make my main server tell it to wake up?
[04:12] <mrhanky> is that possible?
[04:12] <mrhanky> id really like to know :)
[04:12] <iRRV1> WOL?
[04:12] <mrhanky> WOL? uhm not sure what that is
[04:13] <iRRV1> i dont know much about WOL (Wake On Lan) but sounds like what you would want
[04:13] <mrhanky> oohhh
[04:13] <mrhanky> yeah that is
[04:13] <mrhanky> do you know of a tutorial or something?
[04:13] <mrhanky> :)
[04:13] <iRRV1> i think it differs bios-to-bios
[04:14] <iRRV1> but i have never done it and know next to nothing about it
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need something that can send custom icmp packets to the powered off system
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> and a bios that supports wol.
[04:14] <mrhanky> i can do that
[04:15] <mrhanky> let me see if my bois does... i have 3 backup server candidates so im sure one of them does! :)
[04:15] <mrhanky> thanks guys! :D
[04:15] <iRRV1> np
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl
[04:25] <iRRV1> im still deciding what kind of a game i should host on my server (originally was gunna be a MUD...then i wanted to do some sort of something that would actually get users...) ...any suggestions?
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont knock mud players ;P
[04:26] <iRRV1> im not
[04:26] <iRRV1> just saying theres too many good muds out there and im coming in too late in the game to get any users
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> guess the amount of bandwidht you have to your server affects what you want to runon it
[04:27] <iRRV1> 300 Mb/month iirc
[04:28] <iRRV1> errr....
[04:28] <iRRV1> that sounded pretty low...good thing its 300 Gb/month
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[04:29] <iRRV1> but its a cheap vps so its likie 256 MB ram and 10 gigs hdd and such
[04:32] <iRRV1> and i mean if i could get any builders to help me with my MUD i would stay at it...but i've been working at this for about a week or 2 and only got a fraction of a city
[04:32] <iRRV1> well...probably a week
[04:33] <iRRV1> (and i'll shutup if this is too offtopic, btw)
[04:35] <iRRV1> but if anyone has any suggestions for what to run on my server, they would be much appreciated (and yes, it is a ubuntu server :D)
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> shouldnt you get an idea before a server ? :P
[04:36] <iRRV1> i had one
[04:37] <iRRV1> then i after i got the server, i had a realization
[04:38] <iRRV1> so im running a MUD server and a crossfire server on there currently...but im prolly gunna take em both down if i can get a half decent idea for a server
[11:04]  * delcoyote hi
[14:17] <mindframe> is it possible to control access to usb devices in linux?  example: I want to block all USB IDs except for 046d:c51a
[15:51] <sergevn> mindframe: this can be done in udev
[15:51] <sergevn> mindframe: look in /etc/udev/rules.d
[15:52] <sergevn> mindframe: been a while since I played with that, there is good documentation about this on https://wiki.ubuntu.com and https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:45] <ZeeshanQ> hey
[17:45] <ZeeshanQ> can anyone suggest me a book to start linux from the command line
[18:54] <AtomicSpark> is there anyway to easily search for and delete a file in a bunch of folders without manually deleting each one?
[18:54] <nxvl> find?
[18:54] <AtomicSpark> nvm. i figured out i can search the mounted folder. :P
[18:55] <AtomicSpark> that was quick.
[18:55] <nxvl> bash scripting is always cool
[18:55] <AtomicSpark> i'm getting rid of all the thumbs.db. silly windows files.
[18:56] <AtomicSpark> have you worked with samba at all?
[18:58] <nxvl> yep
[19:00] <AtomicSpark> i have this weird inconsistency with my samba share. right now i'm just sharing a users home as one main collection of files. i can manually type in the address. smb://server/username
[19:00] <AtomicSpark> but when i try to find it via the network option in ubuntu it just has two shares on it. homes and print$
[19:01] <AtomicSpark> homes doesnt mount. i'm thinking it might either be configured wrong or its trying to use the user name i'm logged into on the local machine
[19:09] <AtomicSpark> hmm. now my workgroup is empty. smb protocol is very random. even on windows.
[20:01] <sommer_> ScottK: just an fyi, I got a notice from LP saying I'm about to expire from the clamav team :(
[21:09] <thenewguy> how secure is Ubuntu server? if i put a stock Ubuntu box on the web with LAMP how safe am i? i will have it behind a Hardware firewall
[21:10] <ivoks> you'll have only http port open to the public
[21:10] <ivoks> fwiw, php is patched with suhosin patch from http://www.hardened-php.net/
[21:14] <Nafallo> if the P is PHP, you are as secure as your applications ;-)
[21:14] <ivoks> right
[21:14] <ivoks> and you can apply that rule to any other language
[21:15] <Nafallo> yepp. but there is only one language I mistrust on principle ;-)
[21:15] <Nafallo> anyway. lets not get into that discussion :-)
[21:15] <ivoks> Nafallo: i agree with you, but when you think of it... most of the problems are really aplication based
[21:16] <Nafallo> yepp :-)
[21:16] <ivoks> php is, kind of, proof of concept, but, to be honest, it isn't much worse than other languages
[21:17] <Nafallo> its widely popular, so of course it gets more CANs
[21:17] <ivoks> right...
[21:17] <ivoks> meh... long night in front of me...
[21:18] <ivoks> i'll convert dbmail into dovecot...
[21:18] <Nafallo> :-)
[21:22] <ivoks> it would be great to have mod_security in apache, by default
[21:22] <ivoks> too bad mod_security is still gpl2
[21:24] <ivoks> o! o! changes!
[21:24] <ivoks> http://blog.modsecurity.org/2008/06/modsecurity-lic.html
[21:28] <AtomicSpark> ivoks, yay?
[21:28] <ivoks> AtomicSpark: yay? :)
[21:29] <AtomicSpark> ivoks, yes.
[21:32] <nxvl> ivoks: woooho!
[21:57] <ScottK> sommer_: You should be able to renew yourself.  Let me know if you can't.
[21:58] <sommer_> ScottK: cool, thanks
[21:58] <nxvl> ScottK: hi!
[21:58] <ScottK> Hello nxvl.
[21:58] <nxvl> ScottK: how are you!
[21:58] <ScottK> Good, but busy.
[21:58] <nxvl> ScottK: everything is going fine
[21:58] <nxvl> yeah, same here
[21:58] <ScottK> (which explains why I haven't signed your GPG key among other things)
[21:58] <nxvl> this days are really busy
[21:58] <nxvl> :D
[21:59] <nxvl> well i was going to ask you something, but, don't mind
[21:59] <nxvl> :P
[21:59] <ScottK> If it's a quick question, go ahead.
[21:59] <ScottK> nxvl: ^^
[21:59] <nxvl> well
[21:59] <ScottK> Is anyone here actually running dovecot for sasl with Postfix?
[22:00] <nxvl> it's a not short time demanding thing
[22:00] <ScottK> Not even the asking?
[22:00] <nxvl> so nevermind
[22:00] <nxvl> :D
[22:00] <nxvl> well
[22:00] <nxvl> i was going to ask you to review augeas
[22:00] <nxvl> :P
[22:00] <ScottK> Ah.
[22:00] <ScottK> Probably not today.
[22:00] <nxvl> and it's not a simple package
[22:01] <nxvl> is a multiple binary + library one
[22:01] <ScottK> My suggestion would be ask sistpoty to do it.  He's really good on library packaging.
[22:01] <nxvl> but doesn't mind, if you find some time i will be really grateful if you took a look, even a quick one :D
[22:02] <nxvl> ScottK: thanks! i will
[22:02]  * ScottK adds it TODO.
[22:03] <ScottK> sommer_: Are you using Postfix with Dovecot for SASL?
[22:04] <nxvl> sommer_: can you please test augeas i need some sysadmins opinions on it
[22:04] <nxvl> sommer_: it has some test cases on the web page, and a test environment
[22:04] <nxvl> sommer_: so if you have time, please test it and send me some feedback
[22:26] <shelbyscates> hey guys i have an old dell running ubuntu server dapper drake and im setting up wake from lan, and now that i have it installed, i cant figure out for the life of me how to get my system to hibernate from the command line! HELP PLUZE :D
[22:32] <shelbyscates> hulp? pleexx?
[22:32] <shelbyscates> D':
[22:34] <FanBoyUK> shelbyscates: im here to help
[22:34] <FanBoyUK> shelbyscates: its okay, IM FROM THE INTERNETS
[22:41] <shelbyscates> FanBoyUK: LMAO
[22:41] <shelbyscates> so yeah
[22:41] <shelbyscates> can someone pleez help mah?
[22:41] <shelbyscates> hey guys i have an old dell running ubuntu server dapper drake and im setting up wake from lan, and now that i have it installed, i cant figure out for the life of me how to get my system to hibernate from the command line! HELP PLUZE :D
[22:42] <shelbyscates> seriously though, i need serious help
[22:42] <shelbyscates> D:
[22:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> then be patient
[22:45] <shelbyscates> ok :)
[22:45] <specialKevin> shelbyscates: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[22:45] <specialKevin> that might be of some help
[22:48] <Insomnia1ity> shelbyscates: 22:34:47 - FanBoyUK [n=fanboy@85.13.250.10] left #ubuntu-server ()
[23:04] <zul> nxvl: you pinged me a while ago?
[23:05] <nxvl> zul: yep, don't remember why
[23:06] <zul> nxvl: k
[23:54] <shelbyscates> thanks guys