=== calimer- is now known as calimer [08:16] I have checked out the edubuntu handbook, and it tells me a lot about LTSP except which packages I need to use it, so which ones would I need if clients use PXE ? === ogra_ is now known as ogra [13:19] ogra: Looks like we have found the issue in x11vnc. Upstream release handles "broken pipe" correctly but crashes with italc. [13:19] That happens when we are closing the VNC link before the frame was loaded from the client [13:19] (so basically closing italc when a student screen is still refreshing) [13:20] the fact that it's easier to reproduce with larger resolution is probably because it takes longer to refresh than with low resolutions [13:20] yeah [13:20] depending on the bandwith as well i guess [13:20] indeed [13:23] we'll certainly have a fix/workaround in final 1.0.9 (if it's released one day :)) [13:23] btw, did you see Richard recently ? [13:23] I wanted to ask for some news about my cmpc (still not here :( ) but he doesn't seem to be around [13:39] no, i didnt [13:39] not since last wed. or so [13:42] hmm, ok. I sent him a mail. [15:10] stgraber: hi [16:14] Hello [16:15] Does Hardy Heron's ltsp5 feature "http boot" from gPXE/etherboot ? (Note: It has been a year since I have touched LTSP or its docs. Sorry, just want to know.) [16:15] what's http boot ? getting stuff using http instead of tftp ? [16:15] if yes, we don't [16:16] yeah :( [16:16] why would you do that ? [16:17] it sounds like it'll need a lot more resource than the simple tftp deamon we have. And you'll need gPXE to use it so won't work with standard PXE rom [16:18] stagraber It transfers the image faster (tcp over udp). [16:21] ah, I should go back to reading about network protocols :), in my memory udp should be faster as it doesn't require ack/signature as tcp does ... [16:21] stgraber http://www.linux.com/feature/118636 has three flash videos that talk about some new gPXE features. I am a lazy, dumb linux [desktop] user, so it sounds good to me. However, I need more maturing before implementing something. [16:22] stgraber, I thought what you said is what was say in my networking class, but... [16:24] I guess Ubuntu won't install a http server with all LTSP installations until "http boot" is supported by the PXE chips on motherboard. Only a few users are using gPXE to boot their clients. [16:24] that said, you probably can just install apache or lighttpd, set the web directory to /var/lib/tftpboot and it'll probably work fine [16:44] thanks stgraber [18:01] In a dual-NIC edubuntu setup, should a certain NIC be brought up by /etc/network/interfaces first? I'm having an issue where i have to cycle eth0 and eth1 whenever the system is rebooted - as it is now, eth0 is brought up first (eth0 is the "to-the-wan" iface). [18:01] For whatever reason, it can't see the rest of the world (can't ping out) until I cycle the NICs after reboot - the interfaces file is in correct syntax, too. [18:02] (minus a broadcast stanza for each NIC that i just put in...) [18:32] ? [18:35] anybody know how to use jabbin client [18:36] aarmelvin, ? [18:37] ah [18:37] voip for jabber? Cool! [18:37] * Lns has never personally heard of it before, so...no. ;) [18:37] Lns, i'm not sure we still support /etc/iftab but you could assign a fixed devicename by MAC there [18:39] ogra, do you think it's an issue of which one is brought up first? Because the interfaces man page says whatever one is listed in the interfaces file is brought up first... [18:39] * Lns hasn't even heard of /etc/iftab ;) [18:39] Lns, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules should fulfill the same purpose though [18:40] make sure to set ATTR{address} and NAME [18:41] can i login into jabbin using my gmail account [18:41] ogra, what purpose to fulfill ? I'm not following the reason to use /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules or /etc/iftab [18:41] i got the error message saying that "connection failed:unable to connect with the server" [18:42] anybody resolve my problem [18:42] Lns, to assign a fixed device name (ethX) to a certain NIC [18:42] aarmelvin, I don't think this is the correct channel to ask that question [18:42] k...sorry [18:43] ogra, so you think the problem is that the NICs are getting mixed up during boot, based on what I said before? [18:43] bye [18:43] Lns, you said that [18:43] well I just said I had to cycle up/down my NICs after boot [18:43] oh [18:43] because I can't ping outbound (via eth0) [18:43] i thought you had to cycle the names [18:44] oh no [18:44] thats weird then, the order they are brought up in shouldnt matter at all [18:44] ok [18:44] can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ? [18:44] I know I've had issues before, even with an old server at the same location (if it can't reach a DNS server it will time out and nobody can boot TCs) [18:45] sure [18:46] !pastebin [18:46] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [18:46] ogra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22387/ [18:47] hmm, nothing suspicious in there [18:48] ogra, bah - maybe my resolv.conf was fudging it up - its first entry was a bogus DNS server (not reachable) [18:48] think that would do it? [18:48] I know I've had weird issues with DNS and LTSP before [18:48] you could just add dns-nameservers to the interfaces file [18:48] (if DNS isn't reachable at boot or becomes unreachable) [18:50] ogra, weird, i don't see that in the man page for interfaces [18:50] oh, thats resolvconf, sorry ignore that [18:51] ah [18:51] ;) [22:47] ogra: yeah, we found the issue in iTalc. It's actually an upstream x11vnc bug when using tight encoding. We'll just disable it for now until it's fixed upstream. [23:28] stgraber, which issue is that? [23:32] ica crashing randomly [23:43] stgraber, ah...you wouldn't happen to know anything about Gnome themes cycling randomly with VNC in Hardy, would you? [23:44] hmm, no, never heard of that [23:44] stgraber, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/239342 if you're interested..I filed that one [23:44] Launchpad bug 239342 in gnome-settings-daemon "Error starting gnome-settings-daemon while logged in via vnc" [Undecided,New]