/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/23/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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_StefanS_hey there07:40
Riddellryanakca: I didn't, I don't know how to add to an RT10:09
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Riddellwelcome back netsplitters12:11
Tm_Thi ho12:14
Riddellnixternal_: manage to get any beta 2 packaging done?12:15
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txwikingerwb Riddell :)12:23
nixternalRiddell: didn't get any time this weekend to work on anything, had back to back screaming kids birthday parties that I totally forgot about12:32
ScottK-laptopBah.  Make the man a core-dev and what happens?12:35
Riddellhe plays pass the parcel :)12:36
nixternalhehe12:38
nixternalI would have rather played with DOS than go to the birthday parties12:38
* txwikinger makes the conjecture that screaming kids might be torture and therefore a human rights violation12:40
ScottK-laptopParents have no human rights.12:41
txwikingerWell.. I always tell my son, kids have no rights... figures12:44
ScottK-laptopIt kind of works both ways.12:44
txwikingerIs it normal that I can't choose a custom wallpaper on KDE4.0.80?12:48
txwikingerWell I can choose it, but when I relogin it is gone12:48
stdinnixternal: I have phonon and kdelibs in my PPA built, kdepimlibs is failing though13:12
Riddellstdin: what does it fail on?13:25
stdinRiddell: some undefined references13:26
stdinhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/15517060/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.kdepimlibs_4%3A4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz13:27
Riddellstdin: what's your ppa? (i.e. launchpad account)13:29
stdintsimpson13:29
Riddelloh aye13:29
Riddellstdin: kill the DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += -DKDE4_ENABLE_EXPERIMENTAL_LIB_EXPORT=on line13:31
Riddellthat does scary things with library linking13:31
stdinok, just uploaded13:33
Riddellstdin: where did you get the tars from?13:34
stdinRiddell: from tags/4.0.8313:34
Riddellstdin: want me to add you to ktown so you can get the official ones?13:34
stdinsure :)13:35
Riddellstdin: is your key in launchpad up to date? (no ssh vulnerability?)13:35
stdinyeah, LP disabled all the ssh keys it found to be vulnerable13:36
Riddellstdin: ok, you should be able to ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org13:37
Riddelland find tars in unstable/4.0.83/src/13:37
Riddellalso unstable/4.0.83/support13:37
stdinyep, I'm there :)13:38
Riddellstdin: my akonadi packaging http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/akonadi/13:40
Riddellwhich ought to work on hardy ok13:40
EagleScreeni have downloaded d3lphin sources with apt-get source dolphin15:43
EagleScreeni am going to make changes in sources15:43
EagleScreenbut in debian/patches there are two patches that are incomptable with my changes and now they are not necessary15:45
RiddellEagleScreen: remove them then15:46
Riddellwe won't be using d3lphin in intrepid of course15:46
EagleScreeni am making a new servicemenu for compression15:46
EagleScreenyes i know15:47
EagleScreenis i norder to fix a bug in hardy15:47
EagleScreeni would like to upload my hcanges for sponsoring process15:47
EagleScreeni want to make the things well15:48
EagleScreenit is possible making servicemenus for Dolphin-KDE4?15:49
EagleScreeni could incorporate my work into dolphin-kde415:49
RiddellI expect so but I've not looked into it15:50
RiddellEagleScreen: if it's a change in hardy you'd need to make the minimum changes possible, so patches shouldn't be deleted15:50
EagleScreeni supused that Riddell15:51
EagleScreenbut that two patches are unsefull now with my changes, and also are incompatibles15:52
EagleScreeni want to make a debdiff to upload it for sponsoring, i dont know if i must remove that two patches before making my debdiff15:52
RiddellEagleScreen: what are the two patches?15:55
EagleScreenone is for add Compress servicemenu15:56
EagleScreenbut that Compress only worked for folders and not for files15:57
EagleScreenthen other patch adds other different servicemenu that works for files and adds zip option15:58
Tm_TRiddell: who does build our kdegraphics packages (KDE4)15:58
apacheloggerehm15:59
Tm_Tapachelogger: you?15:59
apacheloggerEagleScreen: how are you doing servicemenus for compress/extraction when ark doesn't support start options?16:00
apacheloggerTm_T: the build servers do, mom, the build servers16:00
RiddellTm_T: team kubuntu16:01
RiddellEagleScreen: I'm not sure your change will pass SRU I'm afraid, SRUs have to be very conservative16:02
Riddellif you can't edit the existing patches to fix them it's unlikely to be accepted16:02
Tm_TRiddell: ok, my issue is, from trunk, libkipi parts fails to build in hardy, I wonder if this is known16:03
apacheloggerTm_T: kipi is not part of kdegraphics16:03
apacheloggerit's in extragear16:03
Riddellapachelogger: it moved16:03
apacheloggeroh cool16:03
RiddellTm_T: built for me in intrepid16:03
EagleScreeni can paste my servicemenu for you can see it16:04
Tm_TRiddell: ok, I wonder if it's my libkipi then itself16:04
* apachelogger doesn't follow up with development for some weeks and everything changed :|16:04
apacheloggerTm_T: seems to build on hardy, at least I have kipi stuff in kde-nightly16:05
Riddellapachelogger: seeing arron's blog today, is kde-nightly built with debugging symbols?16:06
apacheloggernope16:06
apacheloggerdidn't work last I tired16:06
Tm_Tapachelogger: interesting16:06
apachelogger*tried16:06
apacheloggerwill do another test run this week16:06
apacheloggerafter exams16:06
Tm_T/usr/include/kde/libkipi/imagecollection.h:53: error: ‘KURL’ has not been declared16:06
Tm_T/usr/include/kde/libkipi/imagecollection.h:53: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘List’ with no type16:06
Tm_Tetc16:07
Tm_Tis my problem16:07
apacheloggeror rather, they are built with debug symbols but dh_strip strips them ;-)16:07
EagleScreeni think i already know what to do16:16
EagleScreeni download dolphin sources16:16
EagleScreenin folder dolphin-0.9.216:17
EagleScreeni copy it to dolphin-0.9.2.orig16:17
EagleScreeni make my changes over dolphin-0.9.216:17
EagleScreenand i run diff dolphin-0.9.2.orig dolphin-0.9.2 > my_patch.diff is it right??????16:18
RiddellEagleScreen: yep16:19
EagleScreenthanks Reddell16:20
EagleScreeni think it is a correct way to my changes can be pass16:20
Tm_T...I fixed my problem, thanks, always need to ask others before you see the obvious16:21
Riddelltoma: that akonadi update for kdepimlibs/kdepim is anything needed in kdepim?16:32
tomaRiddell: yes, a change in /akonadi/resources/imap, it's the first revision i mentioned in the mail iirc16:33
tomaRiddell: otherwise the imap resource will assert immediatly / not usuable16:34
Riddelltoma: oh I see, that commit is to both kdepimlibs and kdepim16:35
{toma}yes16:35
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Riddell/root/smarter/power/guidance-power-manager-4.1.0~svn080620/modules/ixf86misc.c:25:38: error: X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h: No such file or directory16:55
Riddellsmarter: compile error in g-p-m16:55
smarterhey Riddell17:00
smarterRiddell: is python-kde4 fixed in intrepid?17:01
Riddellsmarter: I've uploaded it so hopefully will be in a few hours17:03
smartercool17:03
EagleScreenhello people17:05
EagleScreeni laready have made my diff patch for aplying to dolphin17:05
EagleScreenthere are nine patches in debian/patches in dolphin kubuntu sources17:06
EagleScreenhow can i apply my new patch to sources?17:06
EagleScreenpatch -p1?17:06
EagleScreenpatch -p9?17:06
EagleScreenthere nine patches that go from 00 to 0817:07
JucatoEagleScreen: the -p doesn't stand for how many patches17:09
RiddellEagleScreen: name the patch kubuntu_09_whatever.diff17:09
Riddellput it in debian/patches17:09
Riddellyou can apply by hand with patch -p1 < debian/patches/kubuntu_09_whatever.diff17:10
Riddelland unapply with patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/kubuntu_09_whatever.diff17:10
Riddellmake sure it's unapplied before building17:10
Riddellbuild with   debuild17:10
EagleScreeni do not understand17:12
EagleScreenmy .diff file is ready for upload in launchpad???17:12
EagleScreeni think is a good idea test it first17:13
EagleScreensupuse i want to build a new .deb package with my patch applied17:13
EagleScreeni have my .diff file copied to debian/patches17:14
EagleScreenwhat is now the first step?17:14
EagleScreenbuilding the sources again with debuild?17:14
EagleScreenrunning debuild -S -sa?17:15
EagleScreenis it necessary?17:15
RiddellEagleScreen: just "debuild"  to build it with binary packages17:16
EagleScreendebuild will apply automatically the patch, is it correct?17:17
RiddellEagleScreen: yes17:17
EagleScreenand if it works well ,i think i only have to share my .diff file17:18
Riddellstdin: I don't see kdepimlibs in your ppa?17:18
RiddellEagleScreen: oh before you run debuild, run dch -i and add a changelog entry (it'll pop up a text editor, save and close to finish)17:18
EagleScreenyes, i know i have to do changelog, thanks17:19
EagleScreenthen i havent to use patch -p1 program??17:19
EagleScreenhave I to use patch program or debuild will do its work??17:21
RiddellEagleScreen: debuild will run patch -p1 for you17:23
EagleScreenok thanks you, and then in which cases is patch -p1 used?17:23
RiddellEagleScreen: only if you want to test that your patch correctly applies without having to run the whole debuild process17:24
EagleScreenRiddell do you think i should do it???17:25
RiddellEagleScreen: sure, just to test the patch works17:26
Riddellthen do it again with -R to unapply it17:26
EagleScreenohhhhhh, i think i understand it17:27
smarterRiddell: I've uploaded a new revision with scrnsaver.h, could you testbuild it and see if there's still dependies missing?17:27
EagleScreenother way is apply with patch -p1 route/to/my/patch.diff17:28
smarter*dependencies17:28
EagleScreenand see if the related files have their changes17:28
EagleScreenand build the package with these chages17:28
smarterRiddell: revision 317:28
EagleScreenand the other way is to copy patch.diff to debian/patches and let debuild doing all work17:29
nixternalwhere are my python people?!?!?17:30
Riddellsmarter: that file is in /usr/include/X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h17:30
Riddelljust build depend on x11proto-scrnsaver-dev17:31
Riddellnixternal: hmm?17:31
nixternalsay I have this -> selinux-policy-2.4.6-106.el5_1.3.noarch.rpm and I want it to be split into 'selinux-policy', '2.4.6-106.el5_1.3' - what do I have to do?17:31
nixternalI already split 'i386|noarch.rpm'17:32
nixternalerr, strip17:32
* Riddell would use a qstring17:32
nixternalhehe, this is going into my django stuff here at work17:32
nixternalI am going to look at qstring though if it will make splitting that easier17:32
RiddellI expect you would need a regular expression though17:33
nixternalI have the regular expression in perl, but doing it in python is driving me nuts17:33
nixternalm/(([^ ]+-[^ /] and now I can't remember the rest17:33
ScottKYou could always just split the string on "-" and then do [0] + '-' + [1] and then [2] + '-' + [3] if the number of '-' is predictable.17:36
smarterRiddell: that's what I did17:36
nixternalScottK: ya, was going that route, but the number is never predictable17:38
ScottKAh.17:38
nixternalnet-snmp-x.x.x17:38
nixternaltar-x.x.x17:38
ScottKDo the first N and the last two.17:38
Riddellsmarter: so you did17:41
Riddellsmarter: new error I'm afraid  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXss17:41
Riddellsmarter: adding libxss-dev as build-dep ends up with a perfect package17:44
daskreechI thought that regular expressions were just regular expressions17:48
daskreechOh right.   Perl17:48
smarterRiddell: huzzah17:49
smarterRiddell: should I fill a needs-packaging bug?17:53
Riddellsmarter: not if you've already packaged it :)17:55
Riddellsmarter: ok if I upload this evening?17:55
smarterok17:55
smarterjust remove the (LP: #nnnn) from changelog17:56
stdinRiddell: ~ppa2 failed, just had to edit the .install files, ~ppa3 just built ok18:11
daskreechseele: Should we be targeting the distros to meet user frustrations?18:16
\shgood evening Kubuntu :)18:18
* \sh needs an expert in oxygen style graphics...especially icons18:18
* daskreech bows18:18
* \sh doesn't look to kwwii ;)18:19
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Xand3rhi Riddell, do you need some help with merge?18:30
\shXand3r: everything on merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html is free to merge ;)18:30
Xand3r^^18:30
Xand3rkk18:30
Xand3r\sh: good to know18:31
smarterRiddell: have you looked at kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts and webkitkde?18:32
Riddellsmarter: webkitkde is all good18:32
RiddellI'll upload that too18:32
RiddellXand3r: if you want a wee challenge, akonadi needs merging18:32
Xand3rwhat is a "wee challenge"^^18:35
Riddellsmarter: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts is good too18:35
smartergroovy18:35
RiddellXand3r: we have to split up the package to keep mp3 separate as I remember, not too hard just means you need to make sure all the changes are preserved18:35
yuriyhi all18:36
Riddellmorning yuriy18:37
yuriyRiddell: have you looked at my last 2 mails to k-d@lists?18:37
* yuriy feels like k-d@ is a black hole18:37
Riddellmy e-mail can be a bit of a black hole18:38
Riddellyuriy: transition policy and apport?18:39
yuriyyup18:39
Riddellwill get to them this evening18:39
yuriyk, thanks18:39
nixternalhey, can you block people on kopete from messaging you?19:34
nixternalI have a pest of a local dude I want to block, because he doesn't understand "DO NOT MESSAGE ME!!!!"19:34
Nightrosenixternal: you can ignore them yes19:37
yuriyyou should be able to block them. if not that's a big missing feature, at least for AIM19:38
Nightrosenixternal: hmm maybe not for every protocol...19:38
Nightrosewhich one do you need?19:38
nixternalNightrose: dunno now that he isn't messaging me...gotta find the history now20:07
nixternalhrmm, no way to block, just make yourself invisible to them20:08
Nightrose:/20:08
yuriynixternal: on AIM at least that's the same thing20:10
nixternalya, this guy is on aim20:10
* jjesse_ makes a note to start bugging nixternal on chat20:11
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nixternaldaskreech: consider yourself blocked now20:17
daskreechnixternal: :-(20:17
nixternalya baby, anti-spammer works just fine blocking people now :)20:18
daskreechNo humour20:18
daskreechnixternal: How is work?20:20
nixternalwearing thin on me right now20:24
daskreech;-)20:27
daskreech!21:27
* yuriy just had the same reaction21:27
daskreechbltim: Why login twice?21:31
nixternalI totally forgot the watch file command to test...what is it? Riddell ScottK ?21:49
ScottKYou mean uscan?21:50
nixternalahh, ya thanks21:50
Riddellcan't say I've ever used watch files23:35
seeleDaSkreech: i'm not sure i understand your question23:57
DaSkreechseele: Your blog was talking about the impact of screenshots to users23:58
DaSkreechI'm paraphrasing23:58
seeleright23:58
DaSkreechI was saying that most of those would be coming in via the releases of distros so would it be reasonable to have the distros be the first line of addressing that?23:59

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