[07:40] <_StefanS_> hey there
[10:09] <Riddell> ryanakca: I didn't, I don't know how to add to an RT
[12:11] <Riddell> welcome back netsplitters
[12:14] <Tm_T> hi ho
[12:15] <Riddell> nixternal_: manage to get any beta 2 packaging done?
[12:23] <txwikinger> wb Riddell :)
[12:32] <nixternal> Riddell: didn't get any time this weekend to work on anything, had back to back screaming kids birthday parties that I totally forgot about
[12:35] <ScottK-laptop> Bah.  Make the man a core-dev and what happens?
[12:36] <Riddell> he plays pass the parcel :)
[12:38] <nixternal> hehe
[12:38] <nixternal> I would have rather played with DOS than go to the birthday parties
[12:40]  * txwikinger makes the conjecture that screaming kids might be torture and therefore a human rights violation
[12:41] <ScottK-laptop> Parents have no human rights.
[12:44] <txwikinger> Well.. I always tell my son, kids have no rights... figures
[12:44] <ScottK-laptop> It kind of works both ways.
[12:48] <txwikinger> Is it normal that I can't choose a custom wallpaper on KDE4.0.80?
[12:48] <txwikinger> Well I can choose it, but when I relogin it is gone
[13:12] <stdin> nixternal: I have phonon and kdelibs in my PPA built, kdepimlibs is failing though
[13:25] <Riddell> stdin: what does it fail on?
[13:26] <stdin> Riddell: some undefined references
[13:27] <stdin> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15517060/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.kdepimlibs_4%3A4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[13:29] <Riddell> stdin: what's your ppa? (i.e. launchpad account)
[13:29] <stdin> tsimpson
[13:29] <Riddell> oh aye
[13:31] <Riddell> stdin: kill the DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += -DKDE4_ENABLE_EXPERIMENTAL_LIB_EXPORT=on line
[13:31] <Riddell> that does scary things with library linking
[13:33] <stdin> ok, just uploaded
[13:34] <Riddell> stdin: where did you get the tars from?
[13:34] <stdin> Riddell: from tags/4.0.83
[13:34] <Riddell> stdin: want me to add you to ktown so you can get the official ones?
[13:35] <stdin> sure :)
[13:35] <Riddell> stdin: is your key in launchpad up to date? (no ssh vulnerability?)
[13:36] <stdin> yeah, LP disabled all the ssh keys it found to be vulnerable
[13:37] <Riddell> stdin: ok, you should be able to ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org
[13:37] <Riddell> and find tars in unstable/4.0.83/src/
[13:37] <Riddell> also unstable/4.0.83/support
[13:38] <stdin> yep, I'm there :)
[13:40] <Riddell> stdin: my akonadi packaging http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/akonadi/
[13:40] <Riddell> which ought to work on hardy ok
[15:43] <EagleScreen> i have downloaded d3lphin sources with apt-get source dolphin
[15:43] <EagleScreen> i am going to make changes in sources
[15:45] <EagleScreen> but in debian/patches there are two patches that are incomptable with my changes and now they are not necessary
[15:46] <Riddell> EagleScreen: remove them then
[15:46] <Riddell> we won't be using d3lphin in intrepid of course
[15:46] <EagleScreen> i am making a new servicemenu for compression
[15:47] <EagleScreen> yes i know
[15:47] <EagleScreen> is i norder to fix a bug in hardy
[15:47] <EagleScreen> i would like to upload my hcanges for sponsoring process
[15:48] <EagleScreen> i want to make the things well
[15:49] <EagleScreen> it is possible making servicemenus for Dolphin-KDE4?
[15:49] <EagleScreen> i could incorporate my work into dolphin-kde4
[15:50] <Riddell> I expect so but I've not looked into it
[15:50] <Riddell> EagleScreen: if it's a change in hardy you'd need to make the minimum changes possible, so patches shouldn't be deleted
[15:51] <EagleScreen> i supused that Riddell
[15:52] <EagleScreen> but that two patches are unsefull now with my changes, and also are incompatibles
[15:52] <EagleScreen> i want to make a debdiff to upload it for sponsoring, i dont know if i must remove that two patches before making my debdiff
[15:55] <Riddell> EagleScreen: what are the two patches?
[15:56] <EagleScreen> one is for add Compress servicemenu
[15:57] <EagleScreen> but that Compress only worked for folders and not for files
[15:58] <EagleScreen> then other patch adds other different servicemenu that works for files and adds zip option
[15:58] <Tm_T> Riddell: who does build our kdegraphics packages (KDE4)
[15:59] <apachelogger> ehm
[15:59] <Tm_T> apachelogger: you?
[16:00] <apachelogger> EagleScreen: how are you doing servicemenus for compress/extraction when ark doesn't support start options?
[16:00] <apachelogger> Tm_T: the build servers do, mom, the build servers
[16:01] <Riddell> Tm_T: team kubuntu
[16:02] <Riddell> EagleScreen: I'm not sure your change will pass SRU I'm afraid, SRUs have to be very conservative
[16:02] <Riddell> if you can't edit the existing patches to fix them it's unlikely to be accepted
[16:03] <Tm_T> Riddell: ok, my issue is, from trunk, libkipi parts fails to build in hardy, I wonder if this is known
[16:03] <apachelogger> Tm_T: kipi is not part of kdegraphics
[16:03] <apachelogger> it's in extragear
[16:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: it moved
[16:03] <apachelogger> oh cool
[16:03] <Riddell> Tm_T: built for me in intrepid
[16:04] <EagleScreen> i can paste my servicemenu for you can see it
[16:04] <Tm_T> Riddell: ok, I wonder if it's my libkipi then itself
[16:04]  * apachelogger doesn't follow up with development for some weeks and everything changed :|
[16:05] <apachelogger> Tm_T: seems to build on hardy, at least I have kipi stuff in kde-nightly
[16:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: seeing arron's blog today, is kde-nightly built with debugging symbols?
[16:06] <apachelogger> nope
[16:06] <apachelogger> didn't work last I tired
[16:06] <Tm_T> apachelogger: interesting
[16:06] <apachelogger> *tried
[16:06] <apachelogger> will do another test run this week
[16:06] <apachelogger> after exams
[16:06] <Tm_T> /usr/include/kde/libkipi/imagecollection.h:53: error: ‘KURL’ has not been declared
[16:06] <Tm_T> /usr/include/kde/libkipi/imagecollection.h:53: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘List’ with no type
[16:07] <Tm_T> etc
[16:07] <Tm_T> is my problem
[16:07] <apachelogger> or rather, they are built with debug symbols but dh_strip strips them ;-)
[16:16] <EagleScreen> i think i already know what to do
[16:16] <EagleScreen> i download dolphin sources
[16:17] <EagleScreen> in folder dolphin-0.9.2
[16:17] <EagleScreen> i copy it to dolphin-0.9.2.orig
[16:17] <EagleScreen> i make my changes over dolphin-0.9.2
[16:18] <EagleScreen> and i run diff dolphin-0.9.2.orig dolphin-0.9.2 > my_patch.diff is it right??????
[16:19] <Riddell> EagleScreen: yep
[16:20] <EagleScreen> thanks Reddell
[16:20] <EagleScreen> i think it is a correct way to my changes can be pass
[16:21] <Tm_T> ...I fixed my problem, thanks, always need to ask others before you see the obvious
[16:32] <Riddell> toma: that akonadi update for kdepimlibs/kdepim is anything needed in kdepim?
[16:33] <toma> Riddell: yes, a change in /akonadi/resources/imap, it's the first revision i mentioned in the mail iirc
[16:34] <toma> Riddell: otherwise the imap resource will assert immediatly / not usuable
[16:35] <Riddell> toma: oh I see, that commit is to both kdepimlibs and kdepim
[16:35] <{toma}> yes
[16:55] <Riddell> /root/smarter/power/guidance-power-manager-4.1.0~svn080620/modules/ixf86misc.c:25:38: error: X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h: No such file or directory
[16:55] <Riddell> smarter: compile error in g-p-m
[17:00] <smarter> hey Riddell
[17:01] <smarter> Riddell: is python-kde4 fixed in intrepid?
[17:03] <Riddell> smarter: I've uploaded it so hopefully will be in a few hours
[17:03] <smarter> cool
[17:05] <EagleScreen> hello people
[17:05] <EagleScreen> i laready have made my diff patch for aplying to dolphin
[17:06] <EagleScreen> there are nine patches in debian/patches in dolphin kubuntu sources
[17:06] <EagleScreen> how can i apply my new patch to sources?
[17:06] <EagleScreen> patch -p1?
[17:06] <EagleScreen> patch -p9?
[17:07] <EagleScreen> there nine patches that go from 00 to 08
[17:09] <Jucato> EagleScreen: the -p doesn't stand for how many patches
[17:09] <Riddell> EagleScreen: name the patch kubuntu_09_whatever.diff
[17:09] <Riddell> put it in debian/patches
[17:10] <Riddell> you can apply by hand with patch -p1 < debian/patches/kubuntu_09_whatever.diff
[17:10] <Riddell> and unapply with patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/kubuntu_09_whatever.diff
[17:10] <Riddell> make sure it's unapplied before building
[17:10] <Riddell> build with   debuild
[17:12] <EagleScreen> i do not understand
[17:12] <EagleScreen> my .diff file is ready for upload in launchpad???
[17:13] <EagleScreen> i think is a good idea test it first
[17:13] <EagleScreen> supuse i want to build a new .deb package with my patch applied
[17:14] <EagleScreen> i have my .diff file copied to debian/patches
[17:14] <EagleScreen> what is now the first step?
[17:14] <EagleScreen> building the sources again with debuild?
[17:15] <EagleScreen> running debuild -S -sa?
[17:15] <EagleScreen> is it necessary?
[17:16] <Riddell> EagleScreen: just "debuild"  to build it with binary packages
[17:17] <EagleScreen> debuild will apply automatically the patch, is it correct?
[17:17] <Riddell> EagleScreen: yes
[17:18] <EagleScreen> and if it works well ,i think i only have to share my .diff file
[17:18] <Riddell> stdin: I don't see kdepimlibs in your ppa?
[17:18] <Riddell> EagleScreen: oh before you run debuild, run dch -i and add a changelog entry (it'll pop up a text editor, save and close to finish)
[17:19] <EagleScreen> yes, i know i have to do changelog, thanks
[17:19] <EagleScreen> then i havent to use patch -p1 program??
[17:21] <EagleScreen> have I to use patch program or debuild will do its work??
[17:23] <Riddell> EagleScreen: debuild will run patch -p1 for you
[17:23] <EagleScreen> ok thanks you, and then in which cases is patch -p1 used?
[17:24] <Riddell> EagleScreen: only if you want to test that your patch correctly applies without having to run the whole debuild process
[17:25] <EagleScreen> Riddell do you think i should do it???
[17:26] <Riddell> EagleScreen: sure, just to test the patch works
[17:26] <Riddell> then do it again with -R to unapply it
[17:27] <EagleScreen> ohhhhhh, i think i understand it
[17:27] <smarter> Riddell: I've uploaded a new revision with scrnsaver.h, could you testbuild it and see if there's still dependies missing?
[17:28] <EagleScreen> other way is apply with patch -p1 route/to/my/patch.diff
[17:28] <smarter> *dependencies
[17:28] <EagleScreen> and see if the related files have their changes
[17:28] <EagleScreen> and build the package with these chages
[17:28] <smarter> Riddell: revision 3
[17:29] <EagleScreen> and the other way is to copy patch.diff to debian/patches and let debuild doing all work
[17:30] <nixternal> where are my python people?!?!?
[17:30] <Riddell> smarter: that file is in /usr/include/X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h
[17:31] <Riddell> just build depend on x11proto-scrnsaver-dev
[17:31] <Riddell> nixternal: hmm?
[17:31] <nixternal> say I have this -> selinux-policy-2.4.6-106.el5_1.3.noarch.rpm and I want it to be split into 'selinux-policy', '2.4.6-106.el5_1.3' - what do I have to do?
[17:32] <nixternal> I already split 'i386|noarch.rpm'
[17:32] <nixternal> err, strip
[17:32]  * Riddell would use a qstring
[17:32] <nixternal> hehe, this is going into my django stuff here at work
[17:32] <nixternal> I am going to look at qstring though if it will make splitting that easier
[17:33] <Riddell> I expect you would need a regular expression though
[17:33] <nixternal> I have the regular expression in perl, but doing it in python is driving me nuts
[17:33] <nixternal> m/(([^ ]+-[^ /] and now I can't remember the rest
[17:36] <ScottK> You could always just split the string on "-" and then do [0] + '-' + [1] and then [2] + '-' + [3] if the number of '-' is predictable.
[17:36] <smarter> Riddell: that's what I did
[17:38] <nixternal> ScottK: ya, was going that route, but the number is never predictable
[17:38] <ScottK> Ah.
[17:38] <nixternal> net-snmp-x.x.x
[17:38] <nixternal> tar-x.x.x
[17:38] <ScottK> Do the first N and the last two.
[17:41] <Riddell> smarter: so you did
[17:41] <Riddell> smarter: new error I'm afraid  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXss
[17:44] <Riddell> smarter: adding libxss-dev as build-dep ends up with a perfect package
[17:48] <daskreech> I thought that regular expressions were just regular expressions
[17:48] <daskreech> Oh right.   Perl
[17:49] <smarter> Riddell: huzzah
[17:53] <smarter> Riddell: should I fill a needs-packaging bug?
[17:55] <Riddell> smarter: not if you've already packaged it :)
[17:55] <Riddell> smarter: ok if I upload this evening?
[17:55] <smarter> ok
[17:56] <smarter> just remove the (LP: #nnnn) from changelog
[18:11] <stdin> Riddell: ~ppa2 failed, just had to edit the .install files, ~ppa3 just built ok
[18:16] <daskreech> seele: Should we be targeting the distros to meet user frustrations?
[18:18] <\sh> good evening Kubuntu :)
[18:18]  * \sh needs an expert in oxygen style graphics...especially icons
[18:18]  * daskreech bows
[18:19]  * \sh doesn't look to kwwii ;)
[18:30] <Xand3r> hi Riddell, do you need some help with merge?
[18:30] <\sh> Xand3r: everything on merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html is free to merge ;)
[18:30] <Xand3r> ^^
[18:30] <Xand3r> kk
[18:31] <Xand3r> \sh: good to know
[18:32] <smarter> Riddell: have you looked at kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts and webkitkde?
[18:32] <Riddell> smarter: webkitkde is all good
[18:32] <Riddell> I'll upload that too
[18:32] <Riddell> Xand3r: if you want a wee challenge, akonadi needs merging
[18:35] <Xand3r> what is a "wee challenge"^^
[18:35] <Riddell> smarter: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts is good too
[18:35] <smarter> groovy
[18:35] <Riddell> Xand3r: we have to split up the package to keep mp3 separate as I remember, not too hard just means you need to make sure all the changes are preserved
[18:36] <yuriy> hi all
[18:37] <Riddell> morning yuriy
[18:37] <yuriy> Riddell: have you looked at my last 2 mails to k-d@lists?
[18:37]  * yuriy feels like k-d@ is a black hole
[18:38] <Riddell> my e-mail can be a bit of a black hole
[18:39] <Riddell> yuriy: transition policy and apport?
[18:39] <yuriy> yup
[18:39] <Riddell> will get to them this evening
[18:39] <yuriy> k, thanks
[19:34] <nixternal> hey, can you block people on kopete from messaging you?
[19:34] <nixternal> I have a pest of a local dude I want to block, because he doesn't understand "DO NOT MESSAGE ME!!!!"
[19:37] <Nightrose> nixternal: you can ignore them yes
[19:38] <yuriy> you should be able to block them. if not that's a big missing feature, at least for AIM
[19:38] <Nightrose> nixternal: hmm maybe not for every protocol...
[19:38] <Nightrose> which one do you need?
[20:07] <nixternal> Nightrose: dunno now that he isn't messaging me...gotta find the history now
[20:08] <nixternal> hrmm, no way to block, just make yourself invisible to them
[20:08] <Nightrose> :/
[20:10] <yuriy> nixternal: on AIM at least that's the same thing
[20:10] <nixternal> ya, this guy is on aim
[20:11]  * jjesse_ makes a note to start bugging nixternal on chat
[20:17] <nixternal> daskreech: consider yourself blocked now
[20:17] <daskreech> nixternal: :-(
[20:18] <nixternal> ya baby, anti-spammer works just fine blocking people now :)
[20:18] <daskreech> No humour
[20:20] <daskreech> nixternal: How is work?
[20:24] <nixternal> wearing thin on me right now
[20:27] <daskreech> ;-)
[21:27] <daskreech> !
[21:27]  * yuriy just had the same reaction
[21:31] <daskreech> bltim: Why login twice?
[21:49] <nixternal> I totally forgot the watch file command to test...what is it? Riddell ScottK ?
[21:50] <ScottK> You mean uscan?
[21:50] <nixternal> ahh, ya thanks
[23:35] <Riddell> can't say I've ever used watch files
[23:57] <seele> DaSkreech: i'm not sure i understand your question
[23:58] <DaSkreech> seele: Your blog was talking about the impact of screenshots to users
[23:58] <DaSkreech> I'm paraphrasing
[23:58] <seele> right
[23:59] <DaSkreech> I was saying that most of those would be coming in via the releases of distros so would it be reasonable to have the distros be the first line of addressing that?