/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/23/#kubuntu.txt

Odd-rationaletypedestereo: hmm. try kdesu instead...00:00
Odd-rationaleor double-check for typo... ;)00:00
vipex---im tryed 5hours to get java work....:O00:01
Odd-rationalevipex: with konqueror? or firefox?00:02
vipexOdd-rationale:konqueror00:02
Odd-rationalevipex: kde3?00:03
vipexOdd-rationale: ?00:03
ravhello. i've had no luck configuring a broadcom 4318 wifi card, both with ndiswrapper and b43 in kubuntu 8.04. Anyone can give me any pointers?00:04
vipexim not sure odd rationale00:04
darkdelusionsvipex: did you look at the link I refered you to?00:04
Odd-rationalevipex: what version of kubuntu? did you install the kde3 version or the kde4?00:04
ubuntuhi im on a live cd as gnome wont load correctly..  how may i change my window manager back to kde (harddisk) from a live cd??00:05
kumamotomefisto__: learn new thing every day00:05
Odd-rationalevipex: well, if you don't know, then it is probably kde3... :)00:05
vipexi thnik too:P00:05
vipexOdd rationale:its kde3.00:06
ravubuntu: you can try switching to a console after boot, with Ctrl+Alt+F1. then use aptitude to install kdm and remove gnome00:06
Odd-rationalevipex: i have had trouble with java in konq as well. Try going to settings --> configure konq and in the java settings, check the enable KIO checkbox. but even then, it didn't work 100%...00:07
bernardo_hola00:08
Odd-rationale!es | bernardo_00:08
ubottubernardo_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:08
bernardo_alguien sabe como agregar freenode_00:08
ubunturav: problem is i cant access a text terminal00:09
ubunturav: i have kde installed i just need to change the default manager back to kde    dpkg-reconfigure gdm will do that but i cant get to a txt terminal hence being here from a live cd00:10
flaccidyou can use a tty00:10
Odd-rationaleubuntu: did you try booting into recover mode?00:10
Odd-rationale*recovery00:10
ubuntuno ill try that  fialing that i could change the driver in my xorg config it seems the nvidia driver has problems00:11
ubuntuOdd-rationale:  thanks for the heads up its jogged my memory..  how may i go about restoring gnome then?  i removed all .gconf and .gnome from home folder and removed gnome and then re installed using apt but this gave me the same problems00:13
Odd-rationale!java | vipex00:13
ubottuvipex: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper00:13
Odd-rationaleubuntu: you are trying to restore gnome? or replace it with kde?00:14
ubuntuOdd-rationale:  ill replace with kde first.. i can do that (to get off of the live cd im currently in)  the problem is im not having any luck restoring gnome00:15
Odd-rationalevipex: or install kubuntu-restricted-extras. i believe it pulls thejava runtime package with it as well..00:15
Odd-rationaleubuntu: what is wrong with gnome?00:16
ubuntuOdd-rationale: it wont load at all00:16
Odd-rationaleubuntu: does gdm load?00:16
ubuntuOdd-rationale: no00:16
ubuntuOdd-rationale: it hangs at the login screen00:16
ZettroHmmmm, what do i have to do to installa ubuntu? everytime i try to install it, it says something about a I/0 error on sd0 and fr0 or something00:17
Odd-rationaleubuntu: so gdm loads but hangs?00:17
ubuntuOdd-rationale: sorry yes ok  it attempts to do so but doesnt reach the login screen00:17
Odd-rationaleubuntu: can you get to a terminal via ctrl+alt+f1 ?00:18
flaccidZettro: thats usually hardware fault00:18
ubuntuOdd-rationale: no00:18
flaccidubuntu: which driver are you using in xorg?00:18
Odd-rationaleubuntu: so you are suspecting a X problem or really a gnome problem?00:19
ubuntuOdd-rationale: nvidia.. i will change this so i may access a terminal and replace with kdm ..  but after i have done this i would like to replace gnome again but the ways ive suggested havent worked00:19
vipexso how u guys downloaded java to kubuntu:O!?!?!00:20
flaccidthere are bugs around the vid drivers atm causing no tty access00:20
engineervipex still here?00:20
ubuntuOdd-rationale:  ill restore kdm now so i cna get off the live cd and then rejoin the channel as "ads"00:20
mefisto__vipex: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre00:21
kumamotohells and has been asking the same question ever since00:21
vipexEngineer:yh ...got problems with the java00:21
engineervipex what about the command i gave you, didn't it work?00:21
kumamotohe knows the answer but doesn't actually say what the issue is00:21
Odd-rationalevipex: or install kubuntu-restricted-extras. i believe it pulls thejava runtime package with it as well..00:21
vipexIt worked engineer but..i dont got java on kubuntu.00:21
engineervipex type: java -version00:22
vipexit didnt find the files00:22
engineerit didn't00:22
engineerhave you enabled multiverse?00:22
engineer!multiverse00:22
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories00:22
vipexI dont have multiverse00:23
engineerenable it00:24
vipexhow...00:24
vipexor i meant where.00:24
vipexwhere i enable it00:24
engineerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources00:25
mefisto__vipex: you can do it from Adept00:25
vipexmefisto wheres the adept?00:26
mefisto__vipex: K menu, System, Adept Manager00:26
anubisI would like to keep kde's and gnome's session management apart. Right now, that is not the way it is. Can this be done, or has the freedesktop standard ruined this?00:27
vipexohh ty00:27
jorge__hola alguein sabe como instalar el java desde consola??? es que estoy en el acuerdo de licencia y no se como aceptarlo   uso kubuntu00:27
engineersudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre00:27
mefisto__vipex: then from the Adept menu, Manage Repositories00:27
jorge__im, in the licese agreement  i cant acept00:28
ravdoes anyone use b43 and wpasupplicant?00:29
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jorge__how to accept this license agreement?00:29
mefisto__jorge__: tab key?00:30
engineerspace00:30
vipexwohooo thx to all who helped me:P00:30
crimsun_rav: I do.00:30
ravcrimsun_: which driver do you use to start wpasupplicant?00:30
jorge__hey hey hey thanks very much brother   greeting for Bogotá  long live linux00:30
ads_Odd-rationale: hi again.. do you know how i may completly remove gnome so that i may attempt to restore it.. it appears to be broken after i comiled gstreamer,glib,farsight00:31
crimsun_rav: "driver"?  I use interfaces(5).00:31
ads_ compiled*00:31
ravcrimsun_:  you don't start wpasupplicant from the console?00:32
CrocoJetwhats best way to install nvidia driver for kubuntu hardy (KDE 3.5.9) ?00:32
flaccidshould not need to anything manual like wpasupplicant..00:32
flaccidCrocoJet: kdesudo jockey-kde00:32
ravflaccid: the b43 module detects the card, but it doesn't scan anything or connect00:33
ravflaccid: 'sudo iwlist scan00:34
ravflaccid: 'sudo iwlist scan' gives me no results00:34
crimsun_rav: no.00:34
crimsun_rav: I presume you've placed the firmware files in the correct place?00:35
CrocoJetflaccid: thanks .. let me try00:35
ravcrimsun_: i used the b43-firmware package that the WifiDocs suggest00:35
crimsun_rav: are you sure that the driver even supports your hardware?00:36
Odd-rationaleads_: one moment...00:36
crimsun_rav: it's a non-issue for me; I have a BCM94311MCG rev 100:36
ravcrimsun_: it's a broadcom 431800:36
Odd-rationaleads_: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde00:36
flaccidrav: all i can suggest is to try all the guides on the wiki like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM43xx_(all,_ndiswrapper/firmware) and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM43xx_(all,_ndiswrapper/firmware)00:37
flaccidi mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy00:37
flaccidoh 431800:37
flaccidrav: also this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5bAirForce_One_54g%5d?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%2900:38
ravflaccid: i've tried all the methods there, and none work. i've used ndiswrapper with this card, but it was before the ssb kernel module was out. since then, ndiswrapper doesn't work for broadcoms. what's interesting is that i use ndiswrapper on my laptop with an atheros card00:39
crimsun_rav: but which revision of the Broadcom firmware?00:39
ravcrimsun_: rev 200:39
crimsun_rav: no, the Broadcom firmware00:39
crimsun_not your hardware revision00:39
ads_Odd-rationale:  ok thanks.. this unfortunately is the way i installed ubuntustudio-desktop   and consequently i used the same method to remove  .. and after deleting .gconf* and .gnome* files (and apt-get remove ubuntu gdm..) and then installing again with apt-get install ..  this does not repair gnome something is staying00:39
flaccidrav: we do not know what the problem so so can't assume yet really00:40
flaccidlet me get a coffee and i'll put the thinking cap on00:40
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flaccidrav: can you just paste us the exact entry from lscpi00:42
Agent_bobtypo00:42
Agent_boblspci00:42
Odd-rationalepastebin00:43
ravcrimsun_: i have b43-firmware 1.0-0 from ubuntu.cafuego.net00:43
RiotingPacifistunder gutsy i could have a madwifi connected and monitoring at the same time, is this possible with hardy?00:45
flaccidlspci, rav?00:45
ravflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22237/00:45
darthanubiscrimsun_: you donn't use kdeeee4 huh?00:45
crimsun_darthanubis: huh?00:46
darthanubissorry keybaord must be going00:46
darthanubiscrimsun_: you don't use KDE4?00:46
crimsun_rav: I mean, do you use 4.80.53.0 or 4.150.10.5?00:46
crimsun_darthanubis: I use quite a few desktop environments for testing00:47
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ravcrimsun_: i don't know, since i didn't use b43-fwcutter00:47
darthanubiscrimsun_: the kde4 channel could use some help:/00:47
darthanubisI just started using it today00:47
flaccidrav: ok i will look into this a bit more. i assume you should have at least one AP appear in that list?00:47
flaccidlol00:48
darthanubisI would like to keep kde's and gnome's session management apart. Right now, that is not the way it is. Can this be done, or has the freedesktop standard ruined this?00:48
flaccidwe are doing well in that channel :)00:48
ravflaccid: do you mean access point?00:48
flaccidyep rav00:48
ravflaccid: i'm on my laptop, with the one with the bcm4318 next to me00:49
flaccidbut you should have at list 1 ap show up in the scan right rav?00:49
flaccidrav, and you have tried both native and ndiswrapper?00:50
ravflaccid: on the broadcom, nothing gets scanned, even sitting next to the router. i've tried both, with the same result. the only difference was that b43 lights up the wifi led00:51
flaccidrav: but your dmesg and system logs don't indicate errors right, it seems to work fine? its like your wireless reception is turned off soft or hard..00:51
Agent_bobi have an "ignorant" question, can you setup wireless networking with only one peace of hardware?      i mean get it ready for where a network actually is, before you take it there?00:52
flaccidAgent_bob: you could probably connect to other wireless network in knetworkmanager and that might save the entry despite not connecting, not sure. at least i don't know of a gui way00:53
RiotingPacifistAgent_bob: yes but its easier to setup once your there00:53
ravflaccid: i just loaded b43, and the led is on. i have wlan0 in ifconfig00:53
darkdelusionsAgent_bob: You should beable to as long as you know the SSID and Encryption password00:53
ravflaccid: i just did 'sudo iwlist scan' and it found my wlan00:54
Agent_bobdarkdelusions that i can get.    RiotingPacifist & flaccid ty.  on all input.00:55
flaccidrav: so it loaded correctly this time, all good?00:56
darkdelusionsAgent_bob: Like other have said thou its gonna be ezer just to do it when it get to where its going :)00:56
ravflaccid: it seems so. I'm using knetworkmanager to try to connect00:56
flaccidsounds about the right reliability for broadcom :)00:56
daspopehi people00:56
Agent_bobdarkdelusions maybe maybe not.  i might not have irc to lean on at that time...00:57
daspopeim new to using Kubuntu, i just set up xampp, does anyone have a better recomendation on a http server?00:57
ravflaccid: yes, it's up. thanks for the help!00:57
flaccidnp rav, i think i gave you the link the other, so i'll be happy to take the credit for your hard work :p00:58
Agent_bobdaspope cherokee00:58
flaccid+day00:58
Agent_bobdaspope apache00:58
daspopexampp uses apache00:58
rav:)00:58
daspopeits just an easy set up, but i dont know if it will do as much as I want it to00:58
Agent_bobthen you setup apache by xampp    ;/00:58
Agent_bob!lamp | daspope00:59
ubottudaspope: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:59
daspopethanks bob01:01
efasserHallow 2all01:04
efasserWhat is a command to stop process?01:05
efasserVia terminal?01:05
flaccidkill01:05
engineerkillall process_name01:05
kumamotokillall01:05
Agent_bobkillall processname01:05
efasserflaccid: /sudo kill proc_name01:06
Agent_bobkill pid01:06
efasser?01:06
engineerkill -9 <pid>01:06
efasserok01:06
kumamotokill -9 <pid>01:06
Agent_bob-9 is overkill if it's not needed01:06
efasserSynaptic doesn't want to get off =)01:06
kumamotodamn we all love to kill01:06
Agent_bobkill01:06
efasserLol01:06
Agent_bobkill01:06
flaccidefasser: yes if it needs root privs and no / :)01:07
flaccid-9 is not good if the program needs to writeback to files before close01:07
vipexyo i got some problems now with kopete instant msn:P01:07
Agent_bobkillall kill -16 kill pkill pgrep -k01:07
vipexi get this msg..01:07
Agent_boberr 1501:08
vipex(no debugging symbols found)01:08
vipexUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".01:08
vipex(no debugging symbols found)01:08
vipex(no debugging symbols found)01:08
vipex(no debugging symbols found)01:08
kumamotothat pgrep i learned a few weeks ago01:08
Agent_bobooops forgot   fuesr -k01:08
flaccid!pastebin | vipex01:08
ubottuvipex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:08
Agent_bobfuser that is01:08
flaccidvipex: you can launnch a bug for that01:09
vipex?01:09
flaccid!bugs | vipex01:09
ubottuvipex: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots01:09
daspopeI have a .run file that tries to open in Kate, how do I execute it as a binary file?01:09
flaccidvipex: you can also goto #kopete and they might be able to assist. you would need the dev packages to debug it properly so you don't get no debugging symbols found01:10
flacciddaspope: sh /path/to/file.run01:10
daspopesweet, thanks flaccid01:10
flaccidnp01:10
Agent_bobdaspope if you have dash as your /bin/sh  it is sometimes needed to use   bash file.run   insted01:11
daspopesh worked, but i got an error saying to run it as super user01:11
daspopebut im the only user on the system01:11
flacciddaspope: sudo sh /blah..01:12
Agent_bobsudo bash file.run01:12
daspopesudo fixed it01:12
walter_ecohi01:12
walter_ecodid anyone ever figure out the screen resolution problem01:12
walter_ecothat would be able top say01:13
Agent_bobjava in particular built some .run files that were bash specific.   we had lots of complaints in here about that.01:13
* Agent_bob goes to turn off the internet ...01:19
daspopew00t cooking Jalapeno poppers... now if only I could cook them from withing kubunto.... sudo sh cook_me_poppers.run01:26
vipexcan i play wow on kubuntu?01:27
daspopevipex i dont think so01:27
flaccid!wow | vipex01:27
ubottuvipex: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php01:27
flaccid sure can, i have it setup underr wine on my desktop01:27
daspopedoes it run good under wine?01:27
flaccidyeah it runs faster than on windows sometimes, but that doesn't mean that there isn't problems setting it up etc.01:28
vipexSo can i play rs2/wow on kubuntu or no?01:28
flaccidyes you can play WoW, what is rs2?01:29
vipexrunescape01:29
vipexits like wow01:29
vipexbut rs2 is worst than Wow01:29
flaccidyeah rs2 is java so it runs. my housemate is one of the rpg guys..01:29
flaccidyou need to use sun java01:29
Schuenemannmy system became VERY slow after I installed xserver-xgl and restarted... is this normal?01:30
vipexcant install sun java to kubuntu?01:30
flaccidSchuenemann: can be. ati is not that great under xgl and is actually better under aiglx now01:30
flaccid!java | vipex yep01:30
ubottuvipex yep: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper01:30
vipexso can u give me link or something to install tht?01:31
Schuenemannflaccid, I have nvidia01:31
daspopeso can ubuntu make my jalapeno poppers for me? or will I have to write a bash script for that? ;)01:31
daspope!poppers | daspope01:32
Schuenemannnvidia geforce 620001:32
daspope[17:32] <ubottu> Factoid poppers not found01:32
daspopeD'oh! :(01:32
flaccidSchuenemann: right. i dont' believe you need xgl at all then01:32
vipexuhhhhhhhhh .... ig2galmost..01:32
vipexsee ya01:32
flaccidvipex: install what? links are above for what you requested01:33
vipexnoooh01:33
vipexumm01:33
vipexalmost turned pc off01:33
Schuenemannflaccid, don't I need xgl to run compiz?01:33
vipexSo i need link to install sun java01:33
daspopevipex the links are above01:34
flaccidSchuenemann: not anymore, but i will check it out01:34
daspope!java | vipex01:34
ubottuvipex: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper01:34
Schuenemann!xgl01:34
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion01:34
Schuenemannflaccid, IIRC, my windows were undecorated before I installed XGL01:35
kumamoto!Swahili | Crazy01:35
ubottuFactoid swahili not found01:35
vipexbut when i download the java it opens kate -01:35
flaccidSchuenemann: [10:34] <FusioBot> flaccid: Xgl is not required to run compiz, except for a few specific setups. The message "checking for Xgl: not present" is simply an informational message, not an error.01:35
kumamoto!Spanish | Crazy01:35
ubottuCrazy: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:35
flaccidSchuenemann: thats a different problem and is addressed on the wiki page from !compiz01:35
daspopehow could I go about making firefox take over as the default browser? I have firefox and made a shortcut to run the script that launches it, but it does not do a default browser check like the windows version01:35
flaccidvipex: you don't d/l you install it via adept as per the how to01:36
kumamotodaspope: I think that is setup in the preference01:36
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flacciddaspope: system settings - default applications01:36
vipexOk...?01:36
daspopesweet01:37
flaccid!java > vipex01:37
Schuenemannflaccid, yeah... but it's weird that the problem was solved after I installed xgl. Perhaps that package installed a different one that solved the problem01:37
Schuenemannvipex, do you need the JDK or just the JRE?01:38
flaccidSchuenemann: um its hard to explain and i don't remember the details. but its detailed a bit here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion  (If you are missing the window decorations, then you most likely need the compiz-kde, or emerald packages.)01:38
daspopeYAY! Jalapeno poppers are done, fear me as I nibble on deliciously breaded and fried bits of peppers and cheese, for one day I shall consume enough junk food to give myself the girlish figure of rosie o'donnel01:39
Schuenemannflaccid, I read that, but you pay attention, you'll see those packages are already installed with the previous command :-)01:39
flaccidSchuenemann: previous command?01:40
Schuenemannsorry, well, not the emerald01:40
SchuenemannI'll try later anyway, I just removed everything related01:40
Schuenemannthanks01:40
vipexits noot wooorkiiing wohooo ;(01:40
vipexwht i do wrong!!!!01:41
flaccidSchuenemann: there is also the need to replace window decs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-a50f73445dc17260096b8a098a5af3e2dda6e72001:41
flaccid!doesntwrk | vipex01:41
ubottuFactoid doesntwrk not found01:41
Schuenemannflaccid, yeah, the one the wiki tells you01:41
vipexflacci tell me step by step tht how i get java works ok?01:42
Schuenemannflaccid, it contains compiz-kde, so there's no way you won't have it01:42
flaccidSchuenemann: if you remove xgl and have done all on that page and still have problems, the #compiz-fusion people should be able to advise i reckon01:42
flaccidbut not emerald01:42
Schuenemannflaccid, it's ok, the system is normal again. I'll reinstall compiz later01:42
flaccidok01:42
Schuenemann!doesn't work | vipex01:42
ubottuvipex: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:42
flaccidhehe ta01:43
vipex???01:43
flacciddon't tell us it doesn't work, explain the behaviour/error etc.01:43
vipexomg i dont speak good english cos i m from finland,,01:44
vipexThts why i cant tell:S01:44
vipexI dunno all english words!=01:44
TinasonI just installed postfix, via adept. during installation i was prompted to select the server type (internet, local, smarthost, etc...) i want to change my mind now, how can i initiate that setup script so i can choose a server type again?01:44
Schuenemann!fi | vipex01:44
ubottuvipex: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi01:44
daspopevipex, you said it is opening in kate... try.... sudo sh filename01:45
vipexOkay problem is this : I dot have java on this pc cos im using kubuntu and i dont know how i can download it to kubuntu cos kubuntu is different than windows.01:45
flaccidyou don't need to install java manual, its in the repos01:45
vipexreps*?:D01:45
flaccid!java | vipex01:45
ubottuvipex: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper01:45
flaccidvipex: please read the above, we have pasted it a few times now01:46
vipexOk i should  open shell konsole:O01:46
flaccidyeah01:46
engineersudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre01:46
Schuenemannvipex, dude, just type sun-java6-jre and be happy. Or join the finnish channel #kubuntu-fi01:46
Schuenemannoops01:46
Schuenemanndo as engineer says01:47
vipexyeah01:47
vipexNow it worked01:48
vipexphew01:48
vipexSo its now doen?01:48
vipexdone*01:48
vipexIt have been installed now?01:48
engineerjava -version01:48
vipex?01:48
Schuenemannyou downloaded that fast?01:49
ixenakissalut tout le monde :-))01:49
engineervipex i've been telling you that installing command the whole night01:49
daspopelol engineer01:49
vipexyea i know01:49
vipexbut this isfirst time when it worked01:50
engineeryou could have installed like 50 java jvms by now01:50
Schuenemannvipex, go to konsole and type java -version01:50
vipexSo can i now play wow?:O01:50
vipexok01:50
engineerwhat's wow?01:50
daspopeWorld of Warcraft01:50
engineeroh, i thought that's the thing you say when you're surprised01:51
daspopelol01:51
coreymon77it is01:51
daspopedoes kubuntu come packaged with an ftpd?01:51
coreymon77WoW is an acronm for world of warcraft01:51
engineersudo aptitude install proftpd01:51
vipexheh timeis here 3:51 am01:51
daspopethanks bro01:51
coreymon77the word wow hoever, is when you are surprised01:51
engineeri had a friend that had a €600 worth account01:52
coreymon77why accounts for that game are worth that much money is beyond me, but whatever01:53
engineerhe had been playing for 3 years01:53
coreymon77so01:53
daspopeCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "proftpd"01:53
coreymon77why does that make it worth anything to anyone other than blizzard01:53
RoeyHi, why do I get this weird error when mounting my SD card??  http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/software/345276-unable-mount-removable-media-hal-storage-removable-mount.html  <-- is there a fix for this?01:53
coreymon77especially as much as $600 dollars01:53
engineer€600 is not $60001:54
engineerit's $90001:54
coreymon77i dont see what that first symbol is01:54
engineerE60001:54
engineerlol01:54
mr---t-euro01:54
mr---t-it comes up as two squares here01:55
engineeroh01:55
coreymon77that was a euro sign01:55
engineeri use utf801:55
coreymon77comes up as one square for me01:55
coreymon77so do i, as i can see hebrew on this thing, so, why cant i see the euro sign, but whatever01:56
coreymon77600 euros is even more rediculous01:56
mr---t-there is a way to render it correctly but i nver did it01:56
daspopeCorey, you in Konversation?01:57
engineerhe is01:57
coreymon77yes i am01:57
daspopeI think I saw a language setting in it01:57
daspopeI couldnt see the euro symbol either01:58
daspopeso im gonna check it out'01:58
daspopehelp - switch application language01:58
mr---t-I t goes by how you have set up your keyboard unless you specify otherwise01:58
daspopelets you switch between american english and british english01:58
coreymon77doesnt matter01:59
daspopeyou can set a fallback language01:59
daspopeI think that will take care of it01:59
vipexerrr....its working but when it starts java comes error01:59
daspopeI will find out after rebooting the application i guess01:59
coreymon77it really doesnt matter, thats the first thing i havent been able to see, so whatever01:59
vipexUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1"02:00
vipex(no debugging symbols found)02:00
vipex(no debugging symbols found)02:00
vipex(no debugging symbols found)02:00
vipex(no debugging symbols found)02:00
coreymon77wow02:00
coreymon77wait a second02:00
mr---t-lol02:00
Schuenemann€60002:01
coreymon77ever heard of pastebin02:01
daspopeHow can you input special characters in kubuntu? in windows you can hold down alt and put in the character code....02:01
coreymon77and i see that Schuenemann02:01
flaccid_!pastebin | vipex02:01
ubottuvipex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:01
vipexlol02:01
flaccid_vipex: you can submit a bug for that if you would like02:01
daspopeSchue I could see that euro symbol now02:01
vipexhye guys02:01
vipexim telling about *** bug02:01
mr---t-me too02:01
Schuenemann´ªº~º~;w[wð´?`€€~^`^÷×µ&µ&ŁØÞ``¯02:01
Schuenemannoops sorry02:02
vipexthat same bug came when i open instant msn02:02
ravhello. some of the KDE programs i use don't have any help files. is there a package that needs to be installed to get them?02:02
coreymon77daspope: well, if you are talking about konversation, theres a special characters option in the insert menu02:02
flaccid_vipex: there is a system to report bugs like i told you before!02:02
daspopeah02:02
vipexyea i know!02:02
mr---t-that would be comic book swearing from here02:02
vipexbut im too lazy and i dont want register:P02:02
daspopeoutside of konversation how would one do it? I just tried the alt-method in kate to no avail02:03
coreymon77look in the insert menu in kate02:03
coreymon77or somewhere in kates menus02:03
coreymon77it should be there02:03
daspopeso there isnt a quick way to do it assuming an application has no insert functionality02:04
flaccid_vipex: then stop repeating here please :002:04
vipexbut g2g sleep02:04
vipexyh sorry02:04
vipexim tired02:04
coreymon77daspope: there probably is, look around02:04
daspopebeen looking, just thought I would ask02:04
coreymon77typically the only special symbol i ever use thats not on my keyboard is the degree sign02:04
coreymon77and i usually just find that in the special character map of whatever program im using02:05
vipexcya02:05
daspopeI will need to be using a couple02:05
coreymon77take a look around, do a google search, there should be something02:05
coreymon77me being on my mac right now, i cant go about testing, so sorry i cant be of more help02:06
mr---t-I beleive you can configure your keyboard to hot ke y or key combo I've resd about it but never have done it02:06
daspopeI love google adwords02:08
daspopefreakin awesome02:08
coreymon77meh, i blocked that stuff with a ff extension a long time ago02:09
Schuenemanncoreymon77, which one? adblock? rip?02:10
daspopehmmm to install an rpm do you use something other than sh? I tried "sudo sh flash-plugin-9.0.124.0-release.i386.rpm" and it gave an error02:11
coreymon77Schuenemann: customize google actually02:11
daspopeim trying to install the flash plugin for firefox02:11
coreymon77daspope: debian doesnt use rpms02:11
daspopedoh02:11
daspopeok ill download the tar.gz02:11
Schuenemanndaspope, you can convert it to .deb using alien. They say it's dangerous, anyway02:11
engineersudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree02:11
Schuenemannbut there is flash player in the repositories, it's flashplugin-nonfree I think02:12
darkdelusionsI know its in the restricted xtras package02:12
darkdelusionsfor sure02:12
daspopeCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "flashplugin-nonfree"02:12
darkdelusionsdaspope: look for the kubuntu-restricted-extras02:12
engineerit's in multiverse for me02:13
engineerapt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree02:13
darkdelusionsdoes 8.04 come with multi enabled by default?02:13
darkdelusionsdoesnt even02:14
Schuenemanndaspope, pastebin your sources.list02:14
mr---t-besides if your running 8.04 flash won't install from thier site w/o tweaking02:15
mr---t-(flashplayer site)02:15
daspopewhere can i find sources.list02:16
engineercat /etc/apt/sources.list02:17
darkdelusionsI am slow tonight :)02:17
daspope!pastebin02:18
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:18
daspopehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/22257/02:18
BluesKajdaspope, uncomment the lines 40, 41, 47, 4802:20
daspopecool saved it02:23
Schuenemanndaspope, now, sudo apt-get update02:23
daspopegave an error\02:24
daspopehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/22260/02:24
daspopeoh crap im a retaTRD02:25
daspoperetard lol02:25
engineerjustin@Bender:~$ daspope, now, sudo apt-get update02:25
engineer???02:25
daspopei copied the whole line lol02:25
daspopelmao i feel dumb02:25
engineerdamn right you are02:25
engineerby not figuring out what was wrong02:25
daspopeits been a long day :P02:25
daspopei figured it out soon as I pasted the pastebin link :(02:26
daspopeok i just ran the update02:26
Schuenemannyou need to think about what you're doing, not just copy and paste :-P02:27
daspope:(\02:27
daspopeok installed the flash pluin, lets see if it works with firefox now02:28
engineerif it's fox 32bit it will work02:28
darkdelusionsI would reccomend restarting FF02:29
darkdelusionsif u havent02:29
Schuenemannengineer, is flash working for 64bit?02:29
engineerno02:29
daspoperebooted FF, still no flash02:29
engineeronly under a 32bit fox02:29
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Schuenemannengineer, argh... it's been like that for months!02:30
engineer32bit plugins don't work on 64bit browsers02:31
engineerblame adobe02:31
Schuenemanndoes that happen to internet explorer 64b too?02:31
engineeryes02:32
engineerin fact02:32
engineermicrosoft released a 64bit build to push adobe and sun to build their plugins for 64bit platforms02:33
engineeri hope mozilla does it as well02:33
Schuenemannwho uses sun's plugin?02:33
engineeri use it for some applets in banks02:34
daspopeHey engineer, in the tar.gz from adobe it contains a shell script installer file, and a libflashplayer.so file, I tried "sudo sh flashplayer-installer" and it says sh: Can't open flashplayer-installer02:34
engineersh ./flash ...02:34
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mr---t-daspope: if your on ff 3.002:35
mr---t-the installer won't work02:35
Schuenemannengineer, but that's java, not flash02:35
daspopebah02:35
engineeryeah02:35
daspopeso is there anything I can do with the .so file?02:35
engineerjava is used widely02:35
engineernot just flash02:35
mr---t-daspope: the installer looks for a file that isn't there on ff3.002:37
daspopeso with FF3 you are just out of luck?02:38
mr---t-no02:39
mr---t-did you go to the ff plugins site and install a flash emulation plugin?02:40
mr---t-I did and my flash wouldn't work until I removed it02:41
engineerSchuenemann it's odd02:41
engineeri got kubuntu 64bit here02:41
engineerrunning on a firefox 64bit build02:42
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engineerand i cna run youtube videos02:42
engineerso i dunno now02:42
bibeki just installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy LTS and adept is not working02:43
bibekany help ?02:43
flaccid_bibek: what exactly is not working?02:43
bibekadept package manager02:44
bibekit tries to load but nothing02:44
Schuenemannengineer, I think that was solved some time ago02:44
bibekhow do i solve it ?02:44
bibekany help ?02:44
flaccid_bibek: what happens, can you run it from konsole and see the problem?02:44
engineerbibek install synaptic02:45
bibekok i will try it now02:45
bibeki cant install synaptics from the web, i have not added any repositories02:46
engineersynaptic02:46
engineernot synaptics02:46
bibekok02:46
bibek sudo apt-get install synaptic02:47
bibekis that the way?02:47
deejaypipHello, I'm wondering if there is a spyware-remover program for Kubuntu. My sister keeps logging onto sketchy websites, and my computer has been acting oddly lately.02:48
coreymon77spyware, linux? who ever heard of such a thing?02:50
mr---t-spy ware on linux?02:50
deejaypipI'm asking this question for a friend, actually. that was my reaction02:50
deejaypipSo what do I tell my friend?02:50
coreymon77there is no spyware on linux02:51
deejaypipgreat. thanks. let me ask what the exact problems are. sorry about that. i'll get back to you in a second.02:51
bibeki am installing synaptic now, thaks guys02:52
Schuenemannsketchy means porn?02:54
deejaypipSchuenemann: haha. i have no idea. the sister is a crazy middle-schooler so anything is possible.02:55
bibekwhat else can be sketchy?02:55
deejaypipOkay, my friend's problem is that the system is operating much slower than when he first installed kubuntu earlier this month.02:55
engineerbibek ?02:55
bibekyes02:55
coreymon77probably because there is more stuff on it02:55
deejaypipYeah, I'm sorry, my friend isn't being very detailed at all. The hardware is also shitty.02:55
coreymon77and the more stuff on the computer, especially on old computers, the slower the computer is02:56
coreymon77there is no spyware on linux02:56
deejaypipyeah, that's what i was thinking... sorry to bother you guys with such a basic question and all.02:56
coreymon77and sketchy for some people could mean torrent sites, so, ya02:56
Schuenemannperhaps KDE isn't the best option for your friend02:56
coreymon77no problem02:56
flaccid_there is spyware on linux. like rootkits :)02:56
mr---t-top02:56
cesar_hi folks02:57
Dr_willisdepends on how you defind 'spyware'02:57
deejaypipSchuenemann: is GNOME better?02:57
cesar_I have the answer02:57
coreymon77deejaypip: no, windows vista is ;) :P02:58
Schuenemannhehe02:58
Schuenemanndeejaypip, maybe XFCE02:58
cesar_it depends. like a car, some cars have a nice looking for some people and other cars for other people02:58
Dr_willisOS/2 Warp is best!02:58
Dr_willis:)02:58
deejaypipcoreymon77: hahahhahahhaha :D. or mac os xvxvxvxvxvx02:58
Schuenemannmac os isn't bad02:58
coreymon77ya02:58
cesar_so I can say I like porche because it has a very beautiful appearing02:58
darkdelusionsDr_willis: there is a company here in tampa running OS2 warp on some of there systems02:58
coreymon77im actually on a mac right now to be honest02:59
deejaypipYeah... macs are great, but I have to admit I miss OS 902:59
engineerim actually on vista right now to be honest02:59
cesar_but another person might say he likes a mercedez because it's better looking02:59
deejaypipanyhow it turns out that my friend only has 128 MB of RAM so I suggested to try something like puppylinux02:59
SchuenemannI'm actually on windows 98 now, to be honest02:59
cesar_if I say Gnome is the best I am not saying the truth03:00
Schuenemanndeejaypip, let him try xubuntu03:00
Dr_willisdeejaypip,  i dissagree on that statement. :) but we dont want to start that argument again in here.. Heh heh03:00
cesar_If I say Kde is the best I am not saying the truth either03:00
deejaypipschuenemann: of course. I forgot about that. thanks. i'm suggesting it03:00
Schuenemanncesar_, so, we can say you're never telling the truth, right?03:00
Dr_williswith 128mb of ram - Puppy or som eother Micro-Linux - would proberly be wiorth using.03:01
mr---t-DSL03:01
cesar_like INTEL and AMD03:01
cesar_intel users defend their architecture03:01
cesar_Amd users also defend their architecture03:02
cesar_for me amd is the best, but does not mean is the best for all of people, see what I mean?03:03
cesar_the same happens to GNOME and KDE03:03
cesar_some people do like gnome because is different from WIndows but in KDE you can personalize your enviroment like gnome03:04
deejaypipYeah, personally, I prefer Gnome over KDE but, as you said... Mercedes vs Porsches03:05
cesar_in linux you can personalize everything you want to your likes and needs03:05
cesar_people do not like WINDOWS Vista but you can have vista like windows xp or ever MAC Os or linux03:06
mr---t-deejaypip: your friend might want to try Damn small linux the whole program is less than 50 mb and works good on old boxes03:07
engineercesar_ i like windows vista03:07
engineeri also like ubuntu03:07
cesar_yeah. that is what I mean03:07
cesar_many people like some things and the others some other things03:07
cesar_in my case I hate vista03:08
cesar_but if you do like congratulations for you...,03:08
coreymon77MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!03:11
coreymon77MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!03:20
coreymon77ya im bored03:20
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* coreymon77 pokes around for life03:25
* mr---t- is alive03:25
flaccid_quit it with the shouting ot coreymon7703:25
coreymon77sorry03:26
Schuenemann23:30, bedtime03:29
Schuenemannfarewell03:29
robert__hey guys03:35
robert__doh...03:35
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Hix-2ok, thats better03:35
coreymon77hi03:35
Hix-2hey guys. is there support for the lexmark printers with kubuntu? specifically the x3480 model03:36
szakulechi, is there a good guide to setting up Kontact to automatically sign your emails? I've tried the various options, but only the deprecated inline openPGP seems to fit what I'm looking for03:37
edugonchHello, I just install kde 4.1, and the nvidia drivers, but now I don't have start menu03:42
cesar_hola03:43
cesar_como cambio la resolucion en kubuntu03:43
cesar_solo me muestra una opcion 800x60003:43
cesar_tengo una resolucion de 1440x90003:44
flaccid_!es | cesar_03:44
ubottucesar_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:44
flaccid_!kde4 | edugonch03:44
ubottuedugonch: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:44
flaccid_!printing | Hix-203:44
ubottuHix-2: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:44
Hix-2ubottu, i know about printing... im a gentoo fan03:45
ubottuHix-2: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:45
CrocoJetI have two sound boards, one on-board and other pci. Where I can select (kubuntu hardy) sound board to use ?03:55
hawkeyexhi04:00
hawkeyexis there a way for me to change the default application for video (mpeg, avi) from kaffeine to vlc?04:00
hawkeyexkaffeine is a POS04:00
frogonwheelsyeah - I hate kaffeine too.04:01
frogonwheelsum04:01
flaccid_hawkeyex: system settings - default applications - file assocations ; change as per file extension/mime type in question04:02
CrocoJetwhere I can set one sound board like default ?04:03
frogonwheelsah yeah.  hawkeyex you just given me incentive to change my pref too.04:04
hawkeyexflaccid_: ok - except dolphin is still loading videos with kaffeine04:07
hawkeyexany fix to that?04:07
hawkeyexi've changed it to vlc04:07
CrocoJetis not "open with" pop menu?04:07
arashiHi everyone... I'm a new Kubuntu user...04:07
flaccid_hawkeyex: you may have missed one entry in file associations04:07
hawkeyexhmm04:08
hawkeyexI thought I covered it all.04:08
hawkeyexI'll check again04:08
herichi04:08
hericI am new in this world04:08
arashiNice 2 meet u heric...04:08
hericnice to meet you too04:09
hericwhere are you from?'04:09
arashiI'm from Malaysia... u? I'm male 27..04:10
hericI am from venezuela i am male 1804:10
CrocoJetflaccid_: how can I set sound board default ?04:10
frogonwheels!ot04:10
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:10
frogonwheels:)04:11
hericI need help with my video card04:12
CrocoJetno program to change sound board default for KDE 3.5.9 ?04:12
CrocoJet(kubuntu hardy)04:12
flaccid_CrocoJet: lots on google about that04:12
hericdo we speak spanish??04:13
arashiSorry... I'm looking for someone who could teach me how to install different language... the language support selection is darkened in adept-settings...04:13
EagleScreenheric, for spanish is #kubuntu-es04:14
hericthank you04:14
arashi& I don't know how to activate d auto-update feature which i heard is available..04:14
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ALTF4Hi, anyone can help me, i'm trying to install apache package and it says "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" when i configure04:33
flaccid_why are you not using the pkg from the repos ALTF4?04:34
ALTF4i dont know how..04:34
flaccid_!lamp | ALTF404:34
ubottuALTF4: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:34
flaccid_there you go04:34
ALTF4ok cool04:34
cahuezaltf4, at terminal just try: sudo apt-get install apache2 ..04:34
ALTF4thanks i'll try that04:34
ALTF4ok04:34
ALTF4says a error message04:35
ALTF4Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (ressource temporarily unavailable)04:36
cahuezhumm, is a Adept instance opened already..!?04:37
ALTF4ok sorry that was because its opened ya04:37
ALTF4well its says couldn.t find package apache204:37
cahuezlet me check...04:38
ALTF4does its connect to the internet to check for list of package?04:38
flaccid_thats why its a good idea to read the wiki entry so you know what to do so you can...04:38
flaccid_!info apache204:38
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1ubuntu0.2 (hardy), package size 43 kB, installed size 100 kB04:38
flaccid_it is in main so you might need to fetch updates first04:38
ALTF4ok04:38
cahuezaltf4, try this way> apt-cache search apache2   ..04:38
ALTF4says nothing when i do04:39
cahuezmm, then check for the right repositories..04:39
flaccid_its in main:    apache2 |    2.2.8-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages04:40
ALTF4i downloaded the files to install it04:40
flaccid_we know that. now install it the proper way!04:41
ALTF4i got httpd, php and mysql downloaded04:41
ALTF4:S04:41
flaccid_sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apache2 after making sure main is enabled in repos04:41
flaccid_if you want the whole stack, then you read! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-30d24d1b09c564169559e7494f4f79611f5099b504:41
flaccid_they didn't create the factoids to be ignored :)04:41
ALTF4lol04:41
ALTF4ya i guess.. its just that im new to linux, trying to understand all those terms04:42
flaccid_if you don't understand something, just ask :)04:42
ALTF4well.. what is repos ? :|04:42
cahuezaltf4, you can try too> sudo apt-get update ..04:42
ALTF4k04:42
flaccid_!repos | ALTF404:43
ubottuALTF4: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories04:43
cahuezrepositories, the universe of applications available for kubuntu/linux/etc...04:43
flaccid_!adept > ALTF404:43
flaccid_sorry to swarm you but you have some basic stuff to read up on04:43
ALTF4thanks04:43
flaccid_apache2 is in main so you only need to fetch updates in adept or by command04:43
flaccid_np04:43
ALTF4well i did both04:44
ALTF4ok so i shouldnt search for apache2 but for main?04:44
flaccid_so did you install it and if not what did it say was the problem?04:45
ALTF4that was a problem with C compiler04:45
ALTF4nor found in $PATH04:45
ALTF4not*04:45
flaccid_don't compile!04:45
flaccid_there is no point especially for newbies, it only creates problems04:46
ALTF4just trying to configure before as the installation says :S04:46
flaccid_simply goto adept and manage repositories, make sure main is enabled then install04:46
ALTF4well i tried to search for the package apache2 before downloading all this04:46
ALTF4k04:46
flaccid_ALTF4: you do not compile in ubuntu, it has pre compiled packages. you do not know how to compile so why try it?04:46
ALTF4oh is it maintainer?04:46
flaccid_huh04:46
ALTF4when you say main04:47
flaccid_have a read over all the informatin i have given you and come back after you have04:47
ALTF4k04:47
ALTF4flaccid, there is a package i might not have because when i click on manage repositories the windows opened isnt same as the picture on the webpage04:52
flaccid_which webpage? could be because thats instructions for gnome/ubuntu04:52
ALTF4this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:53
ALTF4the picture just after the one shows the manage repositoried menu04:53
flaccid_could be an old screenshot and looks like its on a dif tab04:54
ALTF4when i click that menu i see a list with Type/URL/Distribution/Components04:54
flaccid_so once you goto manage repos its on the first tab, "Canonical-supported Open Source software" <check it>04:54
flaccid_make sure that is ticked04:54
ALTF4there is no checkbox. just a listview with some information I can change04:56
ALTF4with some URL04:56
ALTF4i guess its the url for the lists of packages..04:56
cahuezand can you check any checkboxes..?04:56
ALTF4there is no checkbox there04:56
ALTF4maybe its my version of kubuntu that is too old??04:57
flaccid_what version is it?04:57
ALTF4how can i check that version..04:57
flaccid_lsb_release -r04:57
flaccid_in konsole04:58
ALTF46.0604:58
ALTF4must be too old i guess04:58
flaccid_yep, sorry about that...04:58
ALTF4is there a way to update this version without downloading a whole distribution04:58
flaccid_yes04:58
ALTF4sweet04:59
ALTF4how ? :|04:59
ALTF4sorry to flood question, your help is appreciated05:00
flaccid_!upgrae | ALTF405:00
ubottuFactoid upgrae not found05:00
flaccid_!upgrade05:00
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes05:00
flaccid_also looks like they moved apache2 from main to security05:00
flaccid_http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/apache205:00
ALTF4lol i think its the first release i got05:01
ALTF4because they doesnt talk about older version that 6.0605:02
ALTF4:S05:02
ALTF4thats like 2 years i got that one05:02
flaccid_its still supported unfortunately05:02
flaccid_at least in kubuntu05:02
ALTF4ya05:02
Herissyanyone know how to completely get rid of kde4 besides reinstalling05:02
ALTF4but its hard getting help with old features.. ill try upgrade this and try what you said about main in repositories05:02
flaccid_Herissy:  remove the kde4 packages05:03
ALTF4thanks for support flaccid and cahuez05:03
flaccid_np05:03
cahuezyou are welcome altf4..!05:03
ALTF4:)05:04
twobitspriteis it just me, or does kde4 need a lot of work?05:05
flaccid_correct05:06
twobitspriteit is me _and_ kde4 needs a lot of work?05:06
flaccid_just kde4 probably05:06
twobitspriteis there a way to downgrade back to kde3?05:08
flaccid_you don't need to downgrade, they are separate sessions from kdm..05:08
twobitspriteahh ha05:08
twobitspritebrb05:08
flaccid_w00t compiz fusion going stable on hardy/kde305:09
EagleScreencompiz-fusion is not working well in hardy/KDE3 for me05:10
flaccid_any idea why EagleScreen what vid driver you on?05:10
twobitspriteok, so I don't have a kde3 session... I installed straight from the KDE4 remix CD and I don't see how to install KDE3 from symantec05:11
EagleScreenradeon05:11
flaccid_that could be why, it will probably work better with fglrx05:12
cahuezati/radeon needs some additional steps to be well configured..05:12
flaccid_and im on a radeon 9600 myself..05:12
flaccid_i think there is about 3 things extra i put in xorg.conf if you wanna see05:13
cahuezhold flacc..05:13
EagleScreeni have a Radeon 9250, it uses ati or radeon free driver of xorg05:14
EagleScreeni have 3D accel05:14
twobitspritealso, I don't understand why firefox depends on so many gnome packages05:14
EagleScreencompiz works fine for me under GNOME, but i never works fine in KDE05:14
cahuezthe ati/radeon's have a bug which is gone with the hardy heron distro, so..05:14
EagleScreeni experience multiple problems05:14
flaccid_try fglrx EagleScreen05:15
EagleScreenfglrx is not compatible yet for mu card05:15
cahuezif you have it, you are at rock solid distro..05:15
flaccid_oh really damn05:15
marvin__hi05:15
cahuezhi marv..05:15
marvin__i have a problem with kde login screen, none of the kde themes load05:15
flaccid_marvin__: bug05:15
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marvin__ah, but it worked a couple of hours ago, i think it has something to do with teh configuration, what should I check?05:16
cahuezmarvin, you are only seeing a console one or..!?05:16
marvin__no05:16
marvin__the gui shows, just the themes doesn't load, it's not console kde loads fine05:16
flaccid_marvin__:  #kde might be better at helping05:16
marvin__ok thanks05:16
flaccid_i've never had themes work properly configured from the gui frontend..05:16
cahuezyeap, the themes can be still not stable at all, by the moment..05:17
ALTF4hum.. what are they talking about when they say : Make sure the "dapper-updates" software channel is enabled05:17
marvin__yeah, the theme manager in kde does not seem to work to fix the problem05:17
flaccid_ALTF4: its one of the repos05:17
ALTF4oh ok05:18
flaccid_marvin__: another frustrating thing. im stuck on some crappy flower theme atm..05:18
marvin__haha is there any config file in kubuntu that we can edit?05:18
flaccid_most of em05:19
flaccid_well all of them?05:19
marvin__ah kde is not responding :( this is bad...05:19
marvin__maybe i should reinstall something, but what package should I reinstall then?05:20
flaccid_you don't know the problem yet. its best to login with failsafe session then startkde in konsole and see problem..05:21
marvin__kde loads fine05:23
marvin__just the login screen looks like crap05:23
marvin__just a grey box, like windows 95 ;)05:23
flaccid_oh05:24
marvin__this might help do a cd /etc/kde3/kdm05:24
marvin__and edit kdmrc scroll down until you hit theme05:24
flaccid_well if you let me get a cup of tea we can look at how to restore because i need to do it as well..05:24
marvin__let me try it, let me do a google search on it, i think that's how you do it manually05:24
marvin__apparently that seems to be the issue05:25
marvin__wait, let me try it05:25
flaccid_yeah its definately the issue05:26
marvin__wait, i want to make sure though05:27
flaccid_marvin__: which kdm are you using kdm or kdm-kde4?05:27
marvin__kdm-kde405:28
marvin__is there another config file?05:28
marvin__i think kdm05:28
marvin__says kdm-kde4 not installed05:28
marvin__wow05:28
flaccid_marvin__: edit /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc and change UseTheme=true to UseTheme=false05:28
flaccid_oh05:28
flaccid_then its /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc for you05:29
marvin__ok05:29
marvin__i'll install kdm4 later but let me try to do this first05:29
marvin__why is the UseTheme false?05:29
flaccid_so it doesn't use a theme?05:30
marvin__ok let me try it all05:30
marvin__brb05:30
raj3186hello05:31
raj3186guys i need some help05:31
flaccid_!help05:32
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:32
flaccid_!ask | raj318605:32
ubotturaj3186: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:32
twobitspritealright, much better... I'm now back in kde3 :)05:33
raj3186im a novice Kubuntu user and im facing excessive cpu usage ppproblem with kubuntu 8.04 due to a process, kacpid which uses 75% cpu all the time05:33
twobitspritehow, how do I get firefox to not be so ubly05:33
twobitspriteugly*05:33
flaccid_twobitsprite: wait for kasteo to finish noia extreme for fx3 :)05:33
flaccid_raj3186: you might need to disable acpi05:34
raj3186can u tell me how to do that please05:34
flaccid_raj3186: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25791205:34
twobitspriteflaccid_: is that a theme?05:35
flaccid_no05:36
raj3186thx flaccid05:36
flaccid_np05:36
raj3186gotta fix this issue now05:36
raj3186:)05:36
flaccid_k05:36
twobitspriteactually... my whole display is acting funny... how do I find out what driver I need for my gfx card?05:36
twobitspritemy xorg.conf file is pretty baren right now05:37
flaccid_twobitsprite: there kind of isn't a way05:37
flaccid_yeah thats because xorg 7 is designed that way to not require a lot of directives05:38
twobitspriteis there a gui for specifying what my hardware is for display?05:40
flaccid_twobitsprite: kinfocenter05:44
twobitspriteno, I mean, so I can tell it what my hardware is and it will choose a driver or something05:45
twobitspritebecause everything looks fuzzy, and my screen flickers every now and then05:46
flaccid_twobitsprite: you can enable the restricted driver in hardware drivers manager or use display & resolution in system settings05:47
flaccid_sorry monitor & display05:47
* flaccid_ bbs05:48
twobitspriteI don't see system settings in my kde menu05:48
minhaaj!skype05:48
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:48
twobitspriteflaccid_: well... I've gotta hit the sack... thanks for you help05:55
minhaajmy adept interface is strange05:59
minhaajits not giving me the sidebar options of education, internet etc categories05:59
minhaajany ideas ?05:59
Daisuke_Idosearch for the package you want and don't worry about it?05:59
minhaajit doesnt work in that interface06:00
minhaajand i also might remember from watching what i need06:00
minhaaj!mozilla06:01
ubottuFactoid mozilla not found06:01
minhaaj!thunderbird06:01
ubottuThunderbird is a free email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox (both by the Mozilla Foundation). To make Thunderbird links open in Firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042706:01
flaccid_i didn't know adept had categories like that06:04
flaccid_there is tags, but its not he same thing06:06
Daisuke_Idoflaccid_: it doesn't.06:06
Daisuke_Idominhaaj: try synaptic06:06
flaccid_yeah06:06
flaccid_maybe minhaaj is thinking of Add/Remove Programs06:06
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CostaRicanQuaker:(06:39
the-ermHow do you install gnome on this thing?06:40
the-ermadept manager doesn't like it when I try and install it.06:40
the-ermI know it's possible to run both kde & gnome on a system.  I've done it in the past.06:40
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flaccid_!gnome | the-erm06:43
ubottuthe-erm: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.06:43
flaccid_sorry that doesn't help.06:43
the-ermubottu: Ya a window system like kde.06:43
ubottuthe-erm: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:43
the-ermI'd like to play with it.06:43
flaccid_the-erm: install the pkg gnome06:43
flaccid_you need universe enabled06:44
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the-ermflaccid_: adept has BREAK(install) next to it.06:45
the-ermso I'm not sure that's a good move.06:45
the-ermI don't want to loose kde,  Just have the ability to play in gnome once in a while.06:45
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flaccid_the-erm: do it from konsole so you can see the problem06:50
the-ermIt appears the secret is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:50
flaccid_ah yeah sorry forgout that!06:51
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CRQuakerhow come07:00
CRQuakerthere's someone else07:00
CRQuakerusing my nickname?07:00
CRQuakerodd07:00
CRQuakeranyway07:00
CRQuakeri tried again to do the disk check for defects07:00
CRQuakerand it said07:00
truefxhi guys07:00
CRQuaker./install/mt86plus was bad07:01
CRQuakercan i install it anyway and fix it later?07:01
truefxhow can i mv only directories from a given directory to another directory recursively ?07:01
truefxi dont wanna move any other files07:01
truefxok let me pput it another way . I am in a directory where tar.gz files and their extracted directories exists07:02
truefxand i wanto move those directories to another directory without moving tar.gz fiels07:02
truefxhow can i do that ?07:02
truefxmv -d * destination ?07:03
truefxim newbie07:03
ds187truefx: i think mv doesn't have an option for that07:04
ds187you could use "find" to search for the dirs and then pipe them to xargs07:04
CRQuakerok i found07:04
truefxhow ?07:04
CRQuakerI have found an old kubuntu cd i had, it says 5.10 can i upgrade from it?07:05
CRQuakerto the latest version that is07:05
flaccid_CRQuaker: in theory yes, but it probably wont be easy07:06
CRQuakergreat07:06
CRQuakeri'm going to install this baby07:06
CRQuakerbrb07:06
ds187truefx: a "find /path/to/dir -type d " should give you the dirs07:06
flaccid_truefx: you could use mv or just use konqueror or dolphin and move then with mouse07:07
truefxfind /path -type d | xargs | mv - /destination ?07:07
ds187truefx: the second pipe is too much i think............but please try it first with some unimportant data :-)07:10
truefxok guys07:20
truefxanother quesiton07:20
truefxin a folder i ve got lots of tar.gz files and i wnat to decomppres them07:20
truefxbut i cant do that with tar zxvf  *07:20
truefxwhat do i have to do ?07:20
truefxeach tar.gz files should be decompressed to their own hiearchy not in a folder07:21
flaccid_!enter | truefx07:25
ubottutruefx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:25
flaccid_they should work with tar zxvf otherwise you can use ark07:26
truefx!response07:26
ubotturesponse is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses07:26
flaccid_truefx: this shows you how to do wildcards with tar as it doesn't accept them natively: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/tar.html07:27
truefxive found a solution ls *.gz |perl -wnle 'system("tar zxvf $_")'07:29
truefxi dont know whether or not it's the best but effective07:29
flaccid_lol07:29
flaccid_its certainly not07:29
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StephenZQuick question.07:59
StephenZWhat's the difference, in "idiot straight from Windows" terms, between KDE 4 Remix and Hardy Heron?08:00
flaccid_the remix has kde4 as well08:00
StephenZI have no idea what that means.08:00
StephenZWhat is KDE4?08:01
flaccid_!kde08:01
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde408:01
StephenZ!kde408:01
ubottuKDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde408:01
flaccid_its the desktop environment kubuntu uses, thus the K..08:01
StephenZRight. Then the Kubuntu Hardy Heron is... Just Ubuntu?08:02
flaccid_ubuntu uses Gnome, kubuntu uses kde08:02
flaccid_nah, its kde308:02
StephenZAhh.08:02
flaccid_:)08:02
StephenZSo the Remix version will come with the newer KDE - this is probably answered in extensive documentation, but is it possible to use KDE3 rather than KDE4 (for whatever reason) if you nab the Remix?08:03
ioioioHi08:03
ioioioI have a BIG problem trying to install kubuntu. When I load Gparted, it doesn't show any partition I have....although they appear in terminal if I write "fdisk -l". What should I do?08:03
flaccid_StephenZ: yeah you can have both installed and just select which one from the login screen; i actually have 4 KDEs installed atm like that :)08:04
StephenZNice. Thanks.08:04
flaccid_ioioio: give qtparted a shot out of chance or use fdisk itself08:05
CostaRicanQuakerflaccid: you there?08:06
CostaRicanQuakerI put in the kubuntu 5.10 install cd, then i created a new partition so tha my system is 40 gb ntsf and 40 free space, but it came to a point in which it said that all the information in the partitions will be deleted including the ones that weren't going to be formatted(swap and ext3) so i stopped, how do i avoid it deleting my windows files?08:08
ioioioHere I am08:13
ioioiowhat were you saying about gparted?08:14
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: from memory there is an option to do it manual in the installer should it doesn't use the full disk08:16
flaccid_ioioio: install qtparted08:16
flaccid_!info qtparted > ioioio08:16
ioioioOk, and then?08:16
ioioioit is just similar to gparted?08:16
CostaRicanQuakerflaccid: manual? explain, i know nothing about codes or a text only environment08:18
flaccid_ioioio: yep08:19
ioioioso what?08:19
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: you need to learn how to use fdisk. something i dont feel like helping with :(08:19
flaccid_ioioio: so what?08:19
CostaRicanQuakerfdisk?08:20
ioioioyeah08:20
ioioioalready done08:20
CostaRicanQuakerflaccid:fdisk=?08:20
ioioioIt shows the partition08:20
ioioiobut on Gparted they Do not appear08:20
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: yes fdisk08:20
flaccid_ioioio: do they show in qtparted?08:20
CostaRicanQuakerok, so step by step what do i need to keep my windows and install kubuntu from the manual run08:21
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efasserGuys why when i try to play games like Glest it doesn't go to the full screen?08:21
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: i don't want to help someone with a legacy ubuntu sorry08:21
josef_guys i like too try xfce on my kubuntu, what is the syntax in apt-get or command08:21
efasserCould it be becouse of emerald?08:22
ioioioa moment and I try with qparted, ok'08:22
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flaccid_josef_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop08:22
ioioioCan you gimme the command to install qparted?08:23
josef_flaccid_ if i go back to kde how can i do that08:23
flaccid_josef_: just select kde from the login screen. it can stay installed..08:23
CostaRicanQuakerflaccid: legacy? i don't get what you mean by that, spanish is my first languge08:23
flaccid_ioioio: sudo apt-get install qtparted after enabling the correct repos08:23
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: old and unsupported08:23
ioioioOK08:24
ioioiothansk08:24
josef_flaccid_ ok thanks for the info08:24
flaccid_i only started using ubuntu from 6.06 so i've never used anything before that. im not comfortable in doing that08:24
ioioioI'm trying08:24
flaccid_!info qtparted | josef_08:24
ubottujosef_: qtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu14 (hardy), package size 205 kB, installed size 712 kB08:24
flaccid_ioioio: so universe must enabled to install it if its not already installed08:24
CostaRicanQuakerwell...i don't want to have to wait 16 weeks to get the new version08:24
CostaRicanQuakeris there anyone else here that may help?08:25
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: you have a physical limitation08:25
ioioio"Impossible to find qparted"08:25
flaccid_ioioio: how so?08:25
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: what options does the installer give you for partition?08:25
ioioioflaccid_: I don't know what to do...explain that08:27
CostaRicanQuakerit says erase partition, create new partition, i created a new partition which has 40 gb bt then it said it had to format and htat it would erase all hte files i had on all partitions08:27
flaccid_ioioio: goto adept and enable the universe repository from manage repositories and then you should be able to install it after fetching updates08:27
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: can't you just create a new partition the use that without it wanting to erase the whole thing? you could also use qtparted to do it manually if you wanted if the installer has this limitation08:28
flaccid_that would save you doing it manual with fdisk.08:28
CostaRicanQuakerwhat's qtparted? can i run it on windows?08:29
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: its a gui partitioning program that you can run from the livecd but not windows08:29
flaccid_you have to install it like ioioio is trying to do08:29
CostaRicanQuakerhmm the kubuntu one has one cd only, the installation, no live cd like on ubuntu08:30
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: yep just checked that. it wasn't livecd until dapper and there doesn't seem to be repos available anymore08:30
CostaRicanQuakerrepos?08:32
flaccid_!repos | CostaRicanQuaker08:32
ubottuCostaRicanQuaker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories08:32
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: in this case look up an fdisk tutorial after backing up your disk. i don't feel comfortable in helping a newbie manually partitioning in case of lost data08:33
CostaRicanQuakeri'm already in the process of backing up08:33
flaccid_ok try an fdisk tutorial then08:34
CostaRicanQuakerwait08:38
CostaRicanQuakerso i cna't download programs with the kubuntu copy i have?08:38
CostaRicanQuakerthe problem i got with my iso copy disk was ./install/mt86plus08:39
flaccid_that just looks like the memtest08:39
flaccid_but i don't see 5.10 repos anymore...08:39
CostaRicanQuakerwhat if i attempted to install it anyway and then fix it once it's set08:39
flaccid_sure. i mean its up to you..08:39
CostaRicanQuakerso thatmeans there's no way i can update from 5.10?08:39
flaccid_no. it means you can upgrade from it but the repos for 5.10 doesn't seem to exist08:40
CostaRicanQuakerand do you know how to help with that corrupted file?08:40
flaccid_get another cd08:40
flaccid_if you cannot download and burn, then like i said before you have a physical limitation. its like trying to install some OS and expecting no problems..08:40
flaccid_+old08:41
CostaRicanQuakeri tried another cd(if you refer to the corrupted file error) and otherwise, you mean if i do install the 5.10 the only way i will be able to upgrade is with another cd?08:41
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: no. im saying there is no 5.10 repos anymore.08:41
CostaRicanQuakerthe repos are from the link you showed me apparently online folders from where one can download files without having to access and ftp or webpage but just entering a command08:42
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: either.08:43
ActionParsniphey all08:43
ActionParsnipis there an antivirus which can be ran / updated / etc via a webfrontend?08:44
pixel683I'm new to ubuntu: is there a decent number of non-gnome frontends for administrating w/ kubuntu/kde on ubuntu, or am I stuck with the gnome tools for that?08:45
ik_i think something like kaspersky server edition, but im not sure08:45
pixel683I know that there's the package manager... anything else?08:45
CostaRicanQuakerflaccid: if i installed kubuntu08:45
ActionParsnippixel683: install kde and choose that as your desktop environment08:45
CostaRicanQuakerwith the fualty cd will i be able to fix it with assist from here?08:45
pixel683ActionParsnip: yes, I know how to install it :D08:46
pixel683ActionParsnip: I'm wondering if there are any kde admin tools similar to those that are in the ubuntu gnome panel08:46
pixel683editing users, hardware driver prefs, etc08:46
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: probably not.08:46
ActionParsnippixel683: settings manager in kde is pretty decent08:47
ds187pixel683: there is the KDE Kontrol Center08:47
ActionParsnipis there a web frontended AV for linux?08:48
flaccid_try google mr parsnip08:48
pixel683ActionParsnip: well, I guess I'll just install and see if it has that stuff ;)08:48
pixel683thanks!08:49
CostaRicanQuakerok08:49
CostaRicanQuakerthen there's no other thing but to wait till i get the new kubuntu cds08:49
flaccid_well thats not technicaly true CostaRicanQuaker but thats what you should do with your skillset08:50
CostaRicanQuakeri've a question though, how do i undo the partition as now i've only have a few GB left in windows08:50
CostaRicanQuakeras in how do i get the ntsf partition to enlarge without losing info08:50
flaccid_you cannot undo partitions after written, you can only add, delete or modify08:50
flaccid_CostaRicanQuaker: use a windows program.08:50
CostaRicanQuakerthis sucks08:51
CostaRicanQuakersuch a bummer08:52
flaccid_physical limitation. it would be worse if you had windows 3.x or something :p08:53
ActionParsnipflaccid_: do you know an AV for linux with a web frontend??08:53
flaccid_no, if i did i would of responded to your annoying repetition by now :)08:54
ik_^^08:54
ActionParsnipflaccid_: sorry man, figured you were busy busy busy08:54
flaccid_i wish i was actually08:55
ActionParsniphehe wanna clear some free space of my servers. I have alerts ;)08:55
ik_actionparsnip: did you post your question on a forum?08:56
ActionParsnipik_: ive trawled forums but im just fielding the monday morning rush of stuff i gots to do08:57
flaccid_ActionParsnip: only if you let me run the one magical command we all love08:57
ik_i have a question: im new to kopete, and i tried to import a emoticon, but it said permission denied. do i need to start it in sudo mode?08:59
raj3186yea same , i was gonna ask that08:59
raj3186:D08:59
ActionParsnipflaccid_: hehe08:59
ik_ow lol, i gtg, lunchbreak here ^^08:59
raj3186ok i will get the answer08:59
raj3186dont worry :D08:59
ActionParsnipik_: 2 things, you dont run graphical apps with sudo, use gksudo and you should never run web facing apps as root09:00
ik_actionparsnip: ok, thx. i gtg now, cya09:00
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ik_bk09:14
ActionParsnipcool09:14
ik_actionparsnip: if i dont run it in sudo, then how do i get enough permissions to add new smileys?09:15
ActionParsnipik_: do you have access to the files as user?09:15
ik_yep09:15
flaccid_ik_: check that you own your everything in ~/.kde09:15
ActionParsnipik_: can you open them in some image editor etc09:15
ik_at least, i think so, lemme check..09:16
* ActionParsnip bets its permissions ;)09:16
ik_where's that stupid map >.< lol09:17
* ik_ cant find the stupid folder >.>09:19
flaccid_~/.kde is hidden09:20
ik_^.^09:20
ik_i would like to have known that BEFORE i started searching 0.o09:20
ActionParsnipik_: ls -a shows all hidden files09:21
ik_k09:21
flaccid_no need to search, just goto ~/.kde in konqueror or dolphin and make sure show hidden files is on :)09:21
ik_kk09:21
ik_owner can modify/read, owner is ik09:22
flaccid_do you know the file in question?09:22
ik_something with kopete i guess, lemme try to recreate the problem..09:23
flaccid_it could be anymore in ~/.kde but likely in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete09:23
ik_.kde/share/emoticons/default09:23
ik_i cant find emoticons ^^09:24
ActionParsnipik_: how did you apply the smileys?09:25
ik_in a chat window->right click on the smiley->import smiley->type name->xd->permission denied09:26
ActionParsnipik_: ok so where are the smileys located?09:26
ik_it says it should be in .kde/share/smileys/default09:26
ik_but i cant find the folder  "smileys"09:27
ActionParsnipik_: yeah should be, but where have you actually put them?09:27
ik_or wait, "emoticons"09:27
ik_dunno, kopete does that for me >.<09:27
ActionParsnipik_: didnt you download them from the web?09:27
ActionParsnipin a tar.gz file probably?09:27
ik_noop, i right click on them inside a chat window09:28
ik_he got a nice smiley, then i want it, i right click on it, and click on "import"09:28
ik_but that doesnt work ^^09:28
ActionParsnipik_: so they are offered and you chose which one you wanted, then it downloaded from the web automatically?09:28
ik_kopete doesn't download them from the web, but via a connection through the MSN protecol. (did i mension i used the MSN protocol?, well, NOW i did 0.o)09:29
ActionParsnipid go to kde-look.org and download the file and import manually09:30
ik_someone uses nice smiley, i want that smiley, i click on it, then on import, i have to insert a name for it, then it says writing failed.09:30
ActionParsnipoh so its one that someone has used and you are essentially copying it off them09:31
ik_yes! that is it.09:31
ActionParsnipi see09:31
ik_:-309:31
ik_different frequentie ^^09:32
flaccidi had a crash. wrong owner was it?09:32
ik_still didnt solve it flaccid.09:32
flaccidsearch google with your error and ask in #kopete09:32
ik_as far as i can see the place he wants to put the smileys doesnt exist09:32
flaccidhe?09:32
ActionParsnipflaccid: basically when someone on MSN sends a nonstandard smiley it is shown and he wants to leech it off them so he can use it in future09:32
ik_jep.09:33
ActionParsnipbut s/he's getting permission errors09:33
flaccidwell #kopete should be able to easily answer that..09:33
ik_for writing the config, ok, ill join that channel09:33
ActionParsnipindeed, id head that way09:33
ActionParsnipor use pidgin :)09:33
ik_lol, or use the MS messenger through wine ^^09:34
ik_but im too lazy for that lol09:34
ik_thx for the help guys, cya later09:34
ActionParsnipthe live messenger doesnt go but the older one does fine09:34
ActionParsnipnp bro09:34
ActionParsnipif you get a fix, whack it in the forums09:34
flaccidwell i have no problem getting custom emoticons in kopete so you obviously have a perm issue somewhere09:35
ik_k09:35
flaccidthey should be in /usr/share/emoticons but i don't know about the custom ones from msn..09:35
se7en!info mbr09:36
flaccidmaybe they are only cached, not sure. it would have to be in ~/.kde somewhere because the user won't have write perms outside of that09:36
ubottumbr (source: mbr): Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)09:36
lg188hello09:37
ActionParsnip!hi lg18809:37
ubottuFactoid hi lg188 not found09:37
ActionParsnip!hi | lg18809:37
ubottulg188: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:37
ik_standard they are only cached, but you can add them by copying them from the cache into your database as a smiley. (i think 0.o)09:37
ActionParsnipik_: i believe so09:37
lg188ActionParsnip: i knwo i'm welcome09:37
ActionParsnipall are welcome, except trolls09:37
lg188should be a kind of stupid if i won't09:37
lg188^09:37
lg188^^09:38
lg188i got a litle problem09:38
flaccid!enter | lg18809:38
ubottulg188: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:38
lg188stop using tha factoid i'm not a noob09:38
flaccidthen stop doing it lg18809:38
ik_lol.09:39
ActionParsniplg188: ask away bro, wassup?09:39
lg188why you ned to use the . as en dof the sentence ?09:39
lg188all well09:39
lg188.09:39
flaccidyou are still doing it lg18809:40
ActionParsnipit breaks up a sentance so it reads correctly09:40
lg188oh kk.09:40
ActionParsnipyou cannot start a sentance with and either09:40
flaccidthere are many possible separators, like comma; semi-colon etc.09:40
ActionParsnipexcept in poetry09:40
eddieftw!offtopic09:41
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:41
ActionParsnipwas wondering who was going to trigger that09:41
lg188so , my problem is : if i log on , the size of my screen always is on 640x400 when logon its back good ;but i like to logon on a well screen09:41
flaccidwe were not offtopic, its part of the channel rules09:42
lg188!dutch09:42
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl09:42
ik_lol, nl FTW :-309:42
flaccidlg188: which is it?09:42
lg188?09:42
ActionParsniplg188: make sure the left most resolution in your xorg.conf is the one you want to use as logon.09:42
ik_en ik hou ook van koffie... :-309:42
ds187hehe09:42
flaccidyou say you logon and you get that res, then you logon and its back good?09:43
ActionParsniplg188: even easier is to just have one resolution09:43
lg188ActionParsnip: wher is dat file ?09:43
ActionParsniplg188: /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:43
lg188i would likethat ActionParsnip but the kd eis worling against09:43
lg188srry about that.09:43
ActionParsnipmake a backup first09:43
flaccidlg188: if there are no resolutions in xorg.conf see /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the problem09:43
lg188kk09:44
lg188ActionParsnip: where in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:45
flaccidbrb09:46
ActionParsnipcheck under Section "Screen"09:46
lg188kk ActionParsnip09:46
ActionParsnipyou'll need kdesudo kate to edit it09:46
ActionParsniplg188: http://brenta.free.fr/IMG/txt/xorg.txt09:47
ActionParsniplg188: thats a good example09:47
ActionParsnipsee all the resolutions there09:47
ActionParsnipthe leftmost one is 1152x768, this guys logon screen will be at that resolution09:47
lg188http://paste.ubuntu.com/22311/09:50
ActionParsnipok cool09:51
ActionParsnipso your logon screen will be at 800x60009:51
lg188oh09:52
ActionParsnipif you want it a 1024x768 then if you move the resolution to the leftmost position that will be the res09:52
lg188ActionParsnip: howto get it higher ?09:52
ActionParsnipor you can simply remove all the resolutions other than the one you use09:52
ActionParsniplg188: cut "1024x768@85" and put it to the left of "800x600@60"09:53
ActionParsnipthen save and reboot09:53
flaccidand if you take out all of them, if it works properly it will use the max possible09:53
lg188kk09:53
ik_"1024x768@85" also sets the refresh rate to 85hz right?09:54
lg188modes  "1280x1024@75"09:55
lg188yes ik_09:55
ik_k thx.09:56
ActionParsnipits easier to pull all of the resolutions out and only leave the one you use09:59
lg188how to edit in kate as user and save as root ?10:00
ActionParsniplg188: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf &10:00
lg188i alredy edited it now how to save as root10:01
ActionParsniplg188: you cant you have to open it as root, the other way is to save it to ~/ then sudo cp it over10:01
ActionParsniplg188: did you make a backup before you editted it too?10:01
lg188nope10:01
lg188didn't save10:02
ActionParsniplg188: dude, if you screw that file your system wont boot good10:02
lg188so no problem10:02
ActionParsniplg188: sweet10:02
ActionParsniplg188: dude if you are playing with massively sensitive files like xorg.conf10:02
ActionParsniplg188: make a damn backup as it'll save heartache later10:02
lg188kk10:02
ActionParsniplg188: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup10:03
ActionParsniptakes seconds, saves bloodpressure10:03
lg188?10:03
ik_lol10:03
titanix88lg188: i think it will be a prob for you as you dont seem to be much familiar with command line. :D10:03
ActionParsniplg188: copy that command, you will then have an identical copy of xorg.conf that we know works10:03
lg188oh10:04
ActionParsniplg188: if it goes wrong you can always copy back10:04
lg188did taht already10:04
ActionParsniplg188: then run kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:04
ActionParsnipand you can edit as root10:04
lg188bash: kdesudo: command not found10:05
ActionParsniplg188: kdesu instead10:05
ActionParsnipgui apps use kdesu, cli apps use sudo10:05
lg188kk10:06
lg188now reboot ?10:07
ActionParsnipif you have done all your xorg.conf settings, yes save and reboot10:07
lg188kk10:07
lg188cu10:07
ActionParsnippeace10:07
titanix88ActionParsnip: hope s/he comes back...10:09
ActionParsnipwell hehas a backup and should use loaf and roll back10:09
ActionParsnipshould come up though unless s/he's really gone to town10:10
lg188hello i'm back10:13
ActionParsniplg188: all good?10:13
lg188!dutch10:13
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl10:13
lg188yep ActionParsnip10:13
ActionParsnipwinner10:13
* ActionParsnip takes a cookie10:14
* lg188 send coookie with ssh to server10:14
ActionParsniplg188: and now you are slightly wiser10:14
lg188yes10:14
lg188thanks10:14
ActionParsnipnp bro, help where you can10:14
lg188i better don't delete d teh backup yet10:14
titanix88congrats to both of you. :D10:15
lg188?10:15
lg188thanks titanix8810:15
ActionParsniplg188: always keep that backup, you could even make a new backup of the current xorg.conf once you know what you have is ok10:15
ActionParsnipi always have 2, the very first xorg.conf thats made and the once im using onceit setup10:16
ActionParsniplg188: if you fluff your xorg.conf, boot to recovery mode and copy the backup over the current xorg.conf10:16
lg188euh command ?10:17
lg188i'l save it to an file in my hoeme directory10:17
ActionParsniplg188: fine10:17
ActionParsniplg to restore you'd use sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf but you dont need it as your settings are fnie :D10:18
ActionParsnip*fine10:18
lg188nope but if i did somthign wrong i can always reste it10:19
ActionParsnipabsolutely10:19
ActionParsniplg188: do it with all conf files as they are simple text files so take very little space10:19
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lg188kk10:20
lg188oh btw : my (hardware) desktop card is't working10:22
ActionParsnipdesktop card?10:22
lg188it's a Belkin Wireless g desktop card10:22
ActionParsniplg188: what model?10:22
lg188yes wifi10:22
lg188F5D7000df10:23
ActionParsniplg188: you need ndiswrapper for that bro10:23
ActionParsnipit uses a broadcom annoyance10:24
ActionParsnipi hate broadcom10:24
ActionParsniplots10:24
lg188euh isntalled from other helping guys i don't actual hget it how it worek s10:24
lg188...10:24
ActionParsnip!ndiswrapper | lg18810:24
ubottulg188: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:24
ActionParsnipyou need the xp driver and ndiswrapper10:24
lg188i ahe the xpdriver on cd10:26
iancrowtherhas anyone successfully got a Huewai 220 working with Kubuntu? if so can you point me to the tutorial as im having some touble10:28
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machielso if  i had to buy an accespoint and a pci-card what will be working with 8.0410:29
ActionParsnip!hcl | machiel10:29
ubottumachiel: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:29
ActionParsnipmachiel: i use one of these: http://efficientpc.co.uk/components/wg311t/10:30
ActionParsnipmachiel: works out of the box10:30
lg188ActionParsnip: euh i cant find what i search and where i'm searching for ?10:30
ActionParsniplg188: install ndiswrapper then follow this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide/10:31
ActionParsniplg188: scroll down to Using NdisWrapper to Install the Drivers10:31
ActionParsnipabout 70% of the way down10:31
lg188kk10:32
ActionParsniplg188: it says to run gksu gedit /etc/modules, you will need kdesu kate10:32
lg188bash: gksu: command not found10:33
ActionParsniplg188: read above10:33
machielubottu & ActionParship thnx, will study it a bit10:33
ubottumachiel: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:33
machielwhatthe10:34
lg188obuttu actual you ar smart10:34
lg188oh ActionParsnip got it10:34
lg188what with modules file ?10:35
ActionParsniplg188: how do you mean?10:35
lg188ActionParsnip:  that command opend an file modules10:37
ActionParsniplg188: yes, keep reading the walkthrough10:37
lg188oh10:38
lg188damn the cd driver is stuck10:38
lg188driver i mean  hardware10:39
lg188it's working now but it wont open10:40
ActionParsnipwhat wont?10:40
lg188here we go10:40
ActionParsnipk10:40
* ActionParsnip waits10:43
lg188noooo10:44
ActionParsnipsup10:44
lg188i won't work10:44
ActionParsniplg188: did you reboot?10:44
lg188oph nope good idea10:44
lg188cu in 5min10:44
ActionParsnipthe walkthrough says to reboot10:44
* ActionParsnip sighs10:45
elitemindhey guys i did a base install with kde i was wondering what package do i need to install, To have kde automatically mount my drives like usb and such10:51
flaccidelitemind: none. hald should already be installed10:51
elitemindaww okay10:52
ActionParsnipelitemind: its already there for you, just add stuff to /etc/fstab and it'll mount10:52
flaccidno need for fstab10:52
elitemind?10:52
* ActionParsnip seconds ?10:52
ActionParsniplg188: better?10:53
elitemindits a total base install i did a cli installation. then Apt-get install kdebase10:53
lg188heu ?10:53
flaccidelitemind: hal (kde) will prompt you when you insert a valid usb disk and in system settings there is 'Disks & Filesystems' for permanent mount/ad hoc mounting10:53
lg188let me check10:53
elitemindlet me try one of my usb's10:53
ActionParsnipflaccid: ahh i see10:53
flaccidelitemind: the wont give hal. best to install the meta pkg kubuntu-desktop to get it all10:53
flaccidthe=that10:53
elitemindk10:54
lg188nope10:54
ActionParsniplg188: theres another thing to do I beliueve, you need to put a 1 in a file to turn it on10:54
lg188?10:55
lg188oh where10:55
ActionParsniplet me find it10:55
ActionParsniplg188: the reboot loaded the ndiswrapper module for you10:55
lg188yes10:56
ActionParsniplg188: do you get any output from iwlist scanning10:56
lg188usage list10:57
josef_guys how can i use my bluetooth is not function very well i mean pairing devices10:57
ActionParsniplg188: try sudo ndiswrapper -ma10:58
lg188also usage10:58
flaccidas in its claiming its not valid params?10:59
ActionParsnipflaccid: whats the line where you echo 1 to some file someplace10:59
flaccidnot sure what you mean mr p10:59
ActionParsniplg188: try iwlist wlan011:00
flaccidiwlist scan and iwlist scanning both should work11:00
lg188iwlist: unknown command `wlan0'11:00
ActionParsniplg188: if you run ifconfig can you see wlan011:00
flaccidActionParsnip: what you mean about the echo 1 thing?11:01
lg188nope11:01
lg188hard ahs no heartbeat i think11:01
ActionParsnipflaccid: you have to echo the character 1 into a file somewhere to turn on the wireless with ndiswrapper11:01
lg188has*11:01
ActionParsnipi believe11:01
lg188it's dead11:01
ActionParsniplg188: is it present in lsusb or lspci11:02
flaccidActionParsnip: oh i aint used it much. you need to at least load the driver with ndiswrapper iirc11:02
flaccidbut never heard of that 1 thing11:03
lg188nope11:03
ActionParsniplg188: sounds dead if its not in there, is there a switch someplace to enable wireless11:03
flaccidwhich card and driver is this?11:03
lg188ActionParsnip: where ?11:04
ActionParsniplg188: on the card or the system itself11:04
ActionParsniplg188: what do you get from ndiswrapper -l (ell, not eye)11:04
lg188Installed ndis drivers:11:05
lg188neti2220        invalid driver!11:05
ActionParsniptheres your bad11:05
lg188?11:06
flaccidwhats a neti2220?11:06
lg188idk11:06
lg188i see it befor but id dont now when11:06
ActionParsnipflaccid: his driver11:07
lg188but it isn't11:07
ActionParsniplg188: go to the manufacturers site and get the latest11:07
flaccidlg188: is your card listed in lscpi or is it usb?11:07
lg188nope11:07
flaccidlg188: what is the model of the card?11:08
lg188flaccid: nope11:08
lg188f5d7000df11:08
flaccidmade by who?11:08
lg188or somthing11:08
lg188belkin11:08
flaccidwhat is the connectivity?11:08
lg188flaccid: ?11:09
lg188wifi :s11:09
flaccidis it usb, pc-card, pci etc. ?11:09
lg188pci11:10
lg188i think11:10
flaccidlg188: pastebin your lscpi please11:10
lg188kk11:11
lg188http://paste.ubuntu.com/22318/11:12
flaccidi believe that the belkin is a broadcom11:12
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ActionParsniplg188: can we have lsusb too11:13
lg188euh what is other choise than broadcom ?11:13
ActionParsniplg188: atheros, intel11:14
lg188tha is empty al11:14
lg188oh kk11:14
ActionParsniphmm, sounds hosed11:14
flaccidlg188: there is many choices, but don't we want to fix this one? i don't see it in your lscpi , is it plugged in?11:14
lg188broadcom i agree11:14
lg188yes11:14
* ActionParsnip REALLY hatess broadcom11:14
flaccidlg188: you could pastebin lshw so we can see the whole system to see if its in there...11:14
* flaccid agrees with the parsnip11:14
lg188da byed it11:14
lg188not me11:14
lg188ded*11:15
lg188dad*11:15
flaccidi avoid belkin and broadcom out of experience. i tend to go for linksys depending on the chipset in the product. intel is probably the best but they do chips and its not in many pci devices etc..11:15
ActionParsnipnetgear and linksys11:16
flaccidstill people have reported your card to work, but it doesn't appear to be plugged in atm lol. need to check full lshw to make sure11:16
flaccidnetgear = bad routers, the rest is not bad11:16
lg188http://paste.ubuntu.com/22319/11:16
ActionParsnipi have a linksys router and a netgear wifi pci that works out of the box11:17
flaccidlg188: is this a desktop pc ?11:17
lg188yes11:17
flaccidActionParsnip: yeah im on the wrt-54gl w/ dd-wrt firmware which is nice11:17
flaccidcool11:17
ActionParsnipi got the same router but with stock fware11:18
* lg188 hungry and nervuse11:19
ActionParsniplg188: how long you had the card?11:19
lg188i'm getting soem soupe for lunch if you excuse me11:19
flaccidlg188: ok, i went over it a few times i only see your pci fast ethernet, no wireless11:19
lg188it's quit new11:19
lg188less than 3minthd11:20
ActionParsniplg188: take it back and get something compatible11:20
lg188months11:20
ActionParsnipcheck the hcl for clues11:20
lg188it won't work11:20
lg188hcl ?11:20
ActionParsniphardware compatibility list11:20
flaccidwell this card has proven to work, yet it doesn't appear to be plugged in. it would show in lshw if it was, unless it is plugged in but some mega weird issue heh11:20
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ActionParsnipflaccid: maybe its usb settings in bios11:21
flaccidlg188: do you have another OS on this desktop?11:21
flaccidlg188: its not usb is it?11:21
lg188i'm starving from hunger11:21
ActionParsnipflaccid: or old bios that needs updating11:21
lg188i only have kubuntu11:21
lg188it's pci11:21
elitemindanyone know how to hook up a psp to kubuntu?11:22
ActionParsniphmm11:22
* lg188 is getting a wierdd feeling in stomach and is getting a soup ready11:22
lg188afk11:22
ActionParsnipelitemind: via what method?11:22
elitemindim having problems copying files over11:22
flaccidlg188: please check thats its plugged in properly or not faulty. linux is not detecting it on your bus at all11:22
llutzMoin11:22
ActionParsnipwerd up llutz11:22
elitemindjust mounting. then going through konqueror to move files over11:22
flaccidelitemind: usb11:22
elitemindyep11:22
elitemindwhat other ways are there?11:23
flaccidask sony? i don't know of any other ways or why you would want another way heh11:23
ActionParsnipelitemind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP11:23
lg188tbbk11:23
elitemindi downloaded this program qpspmanager11:23
elitemindyep i went to that site11:24
ActionParsnipi know very little of psps11:24
lg188flaccid: im sure its plugged in corectly11:24
elitemindaww its okay11:24
ActionParsnipelitemind: so what happens and what causes it to hppen11:25
elitemindill figure er out some how. Either that or jump on my MS computer to do stuff.11:25
ActionParsnipinfo please11:25
ActionParsniptell us a nice story11:25
elitemindoh well qpspmanager it finds everything i make the path to the psp correct but it doesnt show the games in the transfer area. And to top it off im using a  asus eeepc so i cant even see the whole program :P11:26
flaccidlg188: pastebin your who /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog (in one paste is fine) and i'll inspect in detail to see if there is anything about it11:26
flaccidlol11:26
ActionParsnipeeepcs are awesome11:27
ActionParsnipso you got no games in transfer area11:27
flaccidyeah im on an asus w1000na . i would like a black eee pc dang!11:27
elitemindhaha11:27
elitemindyes mine is very nice just a bit of a headache at times11:28
flaccidfeel free to post me one for um err testing purposes :p11:28
lg188howto past copy in a ctl+alt+F1 console ?11:28
elitemindill b back in a sec need to reboot11:28
ActionParsnipelitemind: do they show with kdesudo qpspmanager?11:28
ActionParsnipelitemind: just to test11:28
elitemindnice11:29
elitemindjust got me in tiem11:29
flaccidlg188: you can't to the X session. but you can redirect to a file like cat /var/log/syslog > /tmp/syslog.txt11:29
elitemindtime11:29
elitemindone sec ill see11:29
flaccidwhich is kind of pointless because the file is accessible in X anyway like kate /var/log/syslog11:29
lg188http://paste.ubuntu.com/22322/ |syslog11:30
elitemindran into a problem no space left on my drive i need to apt-get clean real quick11:31
ActionParsnipelitemind: you'll need sudo for that11:32
elitemindfreed up about 300 mb dpkg --configure -a11:32
elitemindsorry i did type sudo, i guess i should assume things :)11:32
lg188http://paste.ubuntu.com/22325/|messages11:32
lg188afk soupe11:32
ActionParsniphehe its just so you know11:32
elitemindwow im missing alot of stuff.11:33
ActionParsnipelitemind: how so?11:33
elitemindi just did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:33
lg188bbk11:33
elitemindand it parsed a error not enough space now i finished :P11:33
ActionParsnipid try free some space dude11:34
vipexwohooo java is working:p I can play nowWoW11:34
ActionParsnipsounds like you have a very small / or you have too much junk on your drive11:34
elitemind2 gigs11:34
elitemind:P11:34
ActionParsnipyep thought so11:34
elitemindnot much room left haha11:34
lg188and flaccid11:35
elitemindi had to do a cli install11:35
ActionParsnipelitemind: why is your partition so small?11:35
elitemindasus eeepc 2g surf11:35
elitemind:P11:35
ActionParsnipoh right11:35
ActionParsnipyeah the 4g is waaay worth it11:35
elitemindyep, i wish i had one right about now11:36
flaccidlg188: yeah give me a few mins to analyse as well11:36
lg188flaccid: kk11:36
elitemindim thinking about taking the solidate out of this and re soldering a 8 gig into it11:36
flaccidlol WoW doesn't use java he must mean rs211:36
ActionParsnipelitemind: get an SD card and move /home to it then you can use the space for more /11:36
lg188flaccid: take your time11:36
elitemindoh no ksudo11:36
elitemindjust sudo11:36
ActionParsnipkdesudo11:36
ActionParsnipor kdesu11:37
elitemindaww11:37
elitemindno kdesudo11:37
ActionParsnipkdesu?11:38
elitemindfixing it now sudo apt-get install -f11:38
ActionParsnipelitemind: you see eeeXUbuntu?11:39
elitemindokay now i have kdesudo11:39
elitemindyes, it too big11:39
elitemindi would have to mess witht the casper11:39
ActionParsnipyikes11:39
ActionParsnipdamn small linux or puppy?11:40
elitemindnu uh i dont like anything with out apt-get11:40
elitemindand damn small is a pain too with .dsl files that are out dated.11:41
ActionParsnipyou can enable apt-get in DSL11:41
elitemind:P i have tried almost everything on this pc11:41
vipexany1 know how i install firefox 3.0?11:41
elitemindsurprized the solidat still works11:41
ActionParsnip!firefox3 | vipex11:41
ubottuvipex: Firefox 3 beta 5 is in hardy, and will get updated, because the firefox 2 branch will be unsupported before the support cycle for Ubuntu Hardy finishes.11:41
vipexkk11:42
elitemindokay ActionParsnip kdesudo works with qpspmanager11:42
ActionParsnipvipex: i'll get you what i used to install11:42
elitemindnow i am going to test it a bit11:42
ActionParsnipvipex: let me get you the lin11:42
ActionParsnipvipex: you on 32bit or 64bit?11:42
vipexActionShip: 6411:43
ActionParsnipvipex: i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion11:43
vipexk11:43
flaccidhmm outdated factoid. vipex install pkg firefox and you will get fx3 stable11:44
flaccidJucato: can you update factoid firefox3 please, its released now yeah?11:44
vipexi am now insralling.11:45
vipexinstalling*11:45
vipexflaccid: pkg?11:45
flaccidpkg = package11:46
lg188flaccid: is it ready ?11:46
vipexok11:46
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flaccidlg188: possible irq conflicts/issues. what exactly is plugged into your pci bus? please specify each device11:47
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elitemindis there anyway to add a scroll bar to qpspmanager11:48
lg188onlyone thing i plugged in resting hardware is onboard11:48
ActionParsniplg188: id check your bios settings11:48
elitemindi cant see the bottom of the program i am just off by maybe 1/4 inch11:48
flaccidlg188: can you try a different pci slot and reset bios to default ?11:48
ActionParsnipelitemind: you can make the display "virtually" slightly longer11:49
ActionParsnipso the whole screen scrolls11:49
flaccidhow does desktop effects go on the eee pc ?11:49
lg188x11:49
elitemindhow do i do that?11:49
lg1882X *11:49
elitemindthat would be great11:49
ActionParsnipflaccid: you mean the dreaded compiz?11:49
lg188i reaplced it11:50
flaccidyeah compiz fusion or kde4 desktop effects perhaps in kde4 when installed11:50
flaccidlg188: sorry?11:50
ActionParsnipit does do them but its not too nice11:50
minhaajmy new kubuntu installation is strange. Adept manager doesnt display education and internet categories. It has different interface11:50
minhaajmy installed applications won't display in menu11:50
flaccidActionParsnip: you have seen it on eee pc?11:50
minhaajany idea ?11:50
ActionParsnipminhaaj: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade11:50
lg188flaccid: i already replaced it 2X*11:50
flaccidminhaaj: like we said before there are no categories like that in adept.11:51
minhaaji already have11:51
minhaajlet me try again11:51
flaccidminhaaj: also not all applications have a menu entry.11:51
elitemindactionParsnip how do i virtually it?11:51
flaccidlg188: replaced what?11:51
lg188the card11:51
minhaajthey did before i reinstalled windows and kubuntu through wine in old kubunutu11:51
ActionParsnipflaccid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkzTZleiJII11:52
flaccidlg188: my request was to change pci slots and check/change bios settings to default, not replace the card11:52
minhaajhow do you add entries for those then flaccid  ?11:52
lg188?11:52
flaccidminhaaj: kmenueditor. right click kmenu11:52
lg188flaccid: hue how ?11:52
flaccidlg188: if you have more than 1 pci slot, move it to another one. and to get to bios its usually del or f2 on powerup - see your m/b doco11:52
vipexflaccid: i need install firefox from konsole like java?11:53
nemhey poeple, has anyone here ever got a logitech mediaplay mouse working?11:53
flaccidvipex: nah adept is fine11:53
minhaajthats when you have these applications installed at all flaccid11:53
minhaaji dont see my installed applications under any menu at all11:53
vipexflaccid:ok11:53
flaccidminhaaj: show us a screenshot or submit a bug11:54
minhaajlet me get done with upgrade first.11:54
minhaajthere are some new packages11:54
minhaajthanks for help flaccid , ActionParsnip  :)11:54
minhaajLinux rocks11:54
flaccidnp11:54
ActionParsnipminhaaj: np11:54
lg188flaccid: so i restart bios screenand then pres F2 then change somthing with pci ?11:55
ActionParsniplg188: read your motherboard manual11:55
lg188kk11:55
flaccidlg188: usually reset to defaults option. and its not necessarily f2, it could be del or esc or another key11:55
ActionParsniplg188: id just look around see if something looks weird, like something disabled11:55
lg188oh np11:55
lg188oh i'll check11:56
lg188cu you later11:56
flaccidusers to check irq in bios is a bit hectic, how unfortunate..11:57
ActionParsnipusually helps to disable paralell ports and com ports11:57
flaccidthey shouldn't conflict with irqs but11:58
ActionParsnipits less complication11:58
ActionParsnipi disabled my sata too as i dont use it11:58
flaccidunless you use them :p11:59
ActionParsnipi dont12:00
ActionParsnippata for me12:00
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lg188np12:11
flaccidlg188: at the moment12:11
flaccidum wb crew :p12:11
lg188kk12:11
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vipexOmg Database locked - adeptmanager12:11
flaccidminhaaj: still you can make your reference of commands if you would like, i'd be insterested to how you set it out12:11
flaccid!adeptfix | vipex12:11
ubottuvipex: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:11
lg188how to update gtk ?12:12
minhaajok :)12:12
flaccidlg188: just update in adept12:12
flaccidminhaaj: you can even put it on the ubuntu wiki under community doco if you want to12:13
minhaajoh thanks for the tip12:13
flaccidnp12:14
vipexi got problems with Adept Manager.12:14
ActionParsni1lg188: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get clean12:14
ActionParsni1vipex: wassup?12:14
vipexSup12:14
ActionParsni1vipex: you said adept is misbehaving12:15
vipexyh12:15
ActionParsni1vipex: whats it doing / saying / not doing12:15
flaccidbetter to just tell use the problem :)12:15
lg188ActionParsni1: thnaks12:15
flaccid-e12:15
vipexAdept Manager - The Kde crash handler...12:16
flaccidtry it again, does it still crash?12:17
ActionParsni1vipex: just use CLI for upgrades and installs12:17
vipexActionParsni1: CLI ?12:17
ActionParsni1vipex: command line interface / interpretter12:18
ActionParsni1!cli | vipex12:18
ubottuvipex: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal12:18
uweoh hi I have a problem by installing google earth, can someone help me?12:18
ik_wtf, im at school (where we have 1gb/s fiber) and i only get 20kb/s download in adept >.<12:18
ik_uwe:  how did you try to install it12:19
Tm_Tik_: nownow, be nice with abreviations12:19
uwevia terminal12:19
ActionParsni1uwe: wassup?12:19
ActionParsni1uwe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19538212:19
uweoh thank, I'll take a look short12:19
ik_tm_t: wtf is my standard abbreviaton :-312:19
ActionParsni1uwe: run the installer with sudo12:19
ik_ups.12:20
uweyah I did12:20
uwelook12:20
uweif I run this bin file  as root12:20
Tm_Tik_: nownow12:20
uweUncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.2.205.5730..............................................................12:21
uweNo protocol specified12:21
uwethis appear12:21
uweand not more12:21
vipexActionnParsni1: But i want use adpt manager but its not working thts not normal...12:21
flaccid!googleearth | uwe12:21
ubottuuwe: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository12:21
ik_Tm_T: if i do something stupid, im a bit novice to linux ^^12:21
flacciduwe: you don't need to do that you can install via repos as per above link12:21
flaccidsorry i mean with medibuntu12:22
Tm_T!etiquette > ik_12:22
ActionParsni1uwe: apparently you run it as user12:22
ActionParsni1uwe: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/760028/Main/75513012:22
Tm_Tik_: see private message12:22
lg188kbrick server users be carefull12:22
minhaajyea its in repos12:22
vipex ActionnParsni1: But i want use adpt manager but its not working thts not normal , do u know how i12:22
uweroot@uwe-desktop:/home/uwe/Desktop# <- is this not root?12:22
flaccidoh no12:23
ik_Tm_T: how do i open private message >.<12:23
lg188i said12:23
vipexcan get it work12:23
flaccidsomeone tripped the cable again12:23
ActionParsni1uwe: do NOT log in as root, log in as your user and sudo / kdesudo when you need admin privs12:23
ik_Tm_T: nvm lol12:23
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flacciduwe: why don't you install it from Medibuntu, thats what i did and it worked fine.12:23
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uwewhat is medibuntu?12:24
flaccid!medibuntu | uwe12:24
ubottuuwe: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org12:24
pzharDoes anybody know how to disable special effects from Konsole?12:24
ActionParsni1pzhar: special effects like what?12:24
flaccidpzhar: kwin --replace12:24
pzharhang on...12:24
flaccidim assuming compiz fusion12:24
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pzharthe desktop effects in KDE 412:25
flaccidwrong channel pzhar12:25
flaccid!kde4 | pzhar12:25
ubottupzhar: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:25
uwehow do I install medibuntu?12:25
ActionParsni1uwe: just add the repos and you can easily install plugins and codecs12:26
pzharok thanks.... actually i running KDE 4.1 nightly12:26
flacciduwe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu12:26
flaccidit had a link on the first page ubottu pasted. i guess nobody reads here do they ;p12:26
pzharhow do you disable desktop effects in KDE3 via the Konsole12:27
ActionParsni1uwe: adding medibuntu repos will allow you to sudo apt-get install googleearth12:27
Dr_Willisflaccid,  huh? speak up - i cant hear you.12:27
ActionParsni1pzhar: kwin --replace12:27
pzharok thanks, ill try12:27
flaccidhaha12:27
uwemmhh I seee, thanks for explaing and giving this solution, I think I'm installing now XD12:28
ActionParsni1uwe: beauty! :D12:28
flaccidpzhar: [21:24] <flaccid> pzhar: kwin --replace   (if its compiz fusion)12:28
HanDongSeongHi. I connected my graphic card to a TV (NTSC) via TV-OUT port, and the screen was fine while I was in CMOS, but it has gone crazy when KDM started12:28
pzharwell i see how it goes12:28
Dr_WillisHanDongSeong,  what video card?12:28
HanDongSeongI think I should take a look of some settings about video display but have no idea how to do it12:28
uweerror in installation12:29
uwegreat12:29
HanDongSeongDr_Willis: Radeon 955012:29
HanDongSeongATi12:29
lg188kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net is errorfull12:29
Dr_WillisHanDongSeong,  you did install the fglrx drivers allready? Ive not used ati and their tv out  in ages... the bot has some links with more info12:29
Dr_Willis!tvout | HanDongSeong12:29
ubottuHanDongSeong: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)12:29
ActionParsni1uwe: so if you chod u+x ./googleearthinstaller.sh (or whatever its called) you cant install as  regular user?12:29
flaccidim using ati and that kind of stuff is pretty normal heh12:29
Dr_WillisTv Out and ATI cards.. can be a hassle.12:29
Dr_Willisit can be weird with nvidia as well. :)12:30
HanDongSeongDr_Willis: Thanks, I'll try that one12:30
uwesadly no12:31
ActionParsni1uwe: what output do you get when you run it as regular user?12:32
uwehuh12:32
uwesomething new happened12:32
ActionParsni1?12:32
* flaccid snores12:32
uweeven the instellation of medibuntu got an error, it seems I can install it now...12:33
flaccidif you cite errors, why not tell us the errors so we can help12:33
ActionParsni1uwe: cool12:33
lg188flaccid: euh so i need to give it back and take an compatible one12:35
uwethanks a lot, you guys are awesome!12:35
flaccidnp12:36
flaccidlg188: so like after all that it still aint detecting at all is what you are saying?12:36
ActionParsni1uwe: we try, and please dont log on as root12:36
ActionParsni1uwe: its asking for problems12:36
uweI'll copy that12:36
ActionParsni1peace12:37
lg188yes flaccid12:37
flaccidlg188: unlucky for you :(12:37
lg188and that GTK+ isn't updated to 2.1012:37
flaccidum should it be?12:37
* lg188 send a black picture to everyone 12:37
lg188hey hfsdo12:38
minhaajhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/22330/12:39
minhaaji can't update12:39
lg188where is a list of compatible wificards ? flaccid12:39
lg188brb it's getting cold inside12:39
minhaajit hits the block after 90%12:40
ActionParsni1!hcl | lg18812:40
ubottulg188: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection12:40
flaccidminhaaj: something could be wrong with your internet connection12:40
flaccid!wireless | lg18812:40
ubottulg188: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:40
flaccidthat goes with the HardwareSupport to see how easy they are lg18812:40
ik_i have a very stupid question: how do i see if i got KDE4, and if i got KDE3, how do i get KDE4?12:40
ActionParsni1!kde4 | ik_12:41
ubottuik_: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:41
Dr_Willisany kde app. has menus for about....12:41
flaccidik_: see if you have kde4 packages installed in adept12:41
timsenhi, I partitioned my harddisk with cfdisk, now I want to find the new partition wihout rebooting the box, is there a command to rescan the disk for new partitions?12:41
lg188hu why is a link always opend in kate ?12:41
minhaajyea i am experiencing slow browsing12:41
lg188brb12:41
flaccidtimsen: um there is no need to do any scanning. do you want to mount this new fs (if you did format a fs onto it ) ?12:42
timsenyes, but the UUID needs to be created12:42
flaccid!uuid | timsen12:43
ubottutimsen: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)12:43
flaccidlg188: kate uses sessions which is probably what you mean12:44
minhaaj_i think somethings wrong with canonical server12:44
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: in what way?12:44
minhaaj_my updates are stuck at 90%12:44
lg188if i press a link i n thiss client kares opens and shjow the source of the page not the page12:44
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: cancel the update and run it again12:44
minhaaj_http://paste.ubuntu.com/22330/12:45
minhaaj_i get this error12:45
minhaaj_i have tried couple of time ActionParsni112:45
pzharhi, i'm trying to disable my desktop effects in KDE4 via Konsole. So i put 'kwin --replace' into konsole and it said 'kwin:cannot connect to X server'12:45
flaccidminhaaj_: i telnetted to it fine just then so its probably your transient connection to it12:45
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: are you on the same computer now that you are updating?12:45
minhaaj_yes12:45
flaccidminhaaj_: you can disable that repos and enable it later12:46
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: you connected via a router?12:46
pzhardoes anybody know how to fix this?12:46
minhaaj_huh ?12:46
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: how do you connect to the web?12:46
flaccidpzhar: thats not how you disable desktop effects in kde4 and this is not the channel for help on it.12:46
minhaaj_ethernet12:46
minhaaj_wired12:46
minhaaj_i am browsing on ff12:46
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: ok what does the ethernet connect to, a modem or a router12:46
timsenI found the command - partprobe12:46
flaccidminhaaj_: its most likely your route with upstream providers..12:47
minhaaj_modem12:47
minhaaj_adsl12:47
minhaaj_shiro12:47
flaccid!enter | minhaaj_12:47
ubottuminhaaj_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:47
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: ok, id reccommend turning that off for a few mins then turn it back on and reboot your system12:47
ActionParsni1minhaaj_: that will refresh all networking12:48
lg188can i use broadcomxx64 ??12:49
timsenthanks for help12:49
lg18864*12:49
minhaaj_umm ok12:49
minhaaj_let me try adept first12:49
lg18834*12:49
lg18843**12:49
ActionParsni1HOUSE!12:49
* ActionParsni1 laughs12:49
lg188?12:50
lg188house ?12:50
ActionParsni1lg188: think of a game of bingo :D12:51
lg188 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?12:51
lg188ohh12:51
ActionParsni1;)12:52
* ActionParsni1 catches the penny as it drops12:52
* lg188 gives a cookie to all users 12:53
lg188bcmxx43 ? an driver ?12:54
lg188brb12:54
* flaccid is back from a usual kde4 crash12:54
flaccidlg188: you fix the hardware issue?12:54
ActionParsni1flaccid: is kde4 close to official release?12:55
lg188nope12:55
lg188drivers for my model12:55
lg18812:55
lg188bcm43xx (or ndiswrapper)12:55
lg188oops12:56
flaccidlg188: yes i already established that before with a google search. can't use it if the card doesn't detect :)12:56
lg188ih thats not good12:56
flaccidActionParsni1: its been released officially for quite a while now12:56
ActionParsni1flaccid: oh i thought it was still unofficial12:57
ActionParsni1cool12:57
ActionParsni1flaccid: what are you doing to kill it, its fine for me12:57
lg188but my dad is goign mad if he hears that i really hate it whne only 1 OS is suported12:57
flaccidActionParsni1: using it.12:57
flaccidlg188: thats not your fault12:57
lg188ik12:58
flaccidati fglrx doesn't help for example.12:58
ActionParsni1lg188: research first and buy whats supported12:58
ActionParsni1flaccid: yeah true12:58
flaccidlg188: at this point, your card is supported, but it seems faulty!12:58
flaccidfaulty as in dead.12:58
lg188?12:59
Dr_Williswhat was the exact chipset anyway? I missed it12:59
ActionParsni1i think its dead too, stab it in another pc, see if its ok12:59
flaccidit would be a good test to plug it into another computer or a computer with windows for example, lg18812:59
ActionParsni1Dr_Willis: some broadcom garbageg12:59
flaccidits the usual bcm43xx13:02
lg188hue it is mamby broke or what ?13:02
flaccidlg188: the card appears to be not working at all13:02
lg188my bro installed by a pro for windows13:02
flaccida pro for windows huh13:02
lg188i have somùe pros here and i think it is just the card13:02
lg188nod linux13:02
flaccidpros ?13:02
flaccidyes its just the card from what we can tell13:02
flaccidbelkin is unreliable for a start. i know that for a fact.13:02
lg188hehe thats not good13:02
Dr_WillisActionParsni1,  thanks for the clarification.. :)13:02
flaccidbad generalisation maybe. but that combined with broadcom is a bad combo. we have at least 1 user a day here on average have issues getting broadcom to work etc.13:02
Dr_WillisFrom my reading of some ndiswrapper guides the other day.. there can be a Wide variation in bc43xx Stuff. :)13:02
machielsorry guys, stupid question, what do you mean by "!hcl |" or "!kde4 |"13:02
flaccidmachiel: they are bot calls to get factoids from the bot for information on topics13:02
ActionParsni1windows pros haha13:03
ActionParsni1machiel: it makes ubottu speak13:04
ActionParsni1machiel: try em13:04
Dr_Willislg188,  does  lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'    show any info on the card?13:04
flaccidDr_Willis: it didn't before at all. checked lspci and also the system logs, but the user did change something in bios now, but claims no change13:05
machielthnx  flaccid & AP, thts clear13:05
Dr_WillisI would have to say theres a HW issue then as well..13:05
lg188Dr_Willis: just >13:05
ActionParsni1Dr_Willis: it doesnt show up in lspci, we've installed the windows driver in ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper is loaded at bootup13:05
ActionParsni1Dr_Willis: it just wont see the actual hardware13:05
ActionParsni1lg188: do you have any other usb ports?13:06
ActionParsni1lg188: or are you using a usb hub13:06
lg188usb port what is to do with that ?13:06
flaccidchecking the system logs there appears to be possible irq problems but can't say for sure which is why i suggested changing pci slots but yeah13:06
lg188nope13:06
ActionParsni1lg188: its the hole you are plugging your usb wifi into13:06
ActionParsni1lg188: are there any others arounf your system?13:06
lg188i dint us usb13:06
ActionParsni1oh yeah its pci13:07
ActionParsni1durrrrr13:07
lg188dont use usb13:07
flaccidi reckon a good question is what is the best out-of-box pci wireless card chipset... thats hard to work out i reckon13:07
ads_hi i cant pastebin as i have a problem with konqueror    it wont install it says errors processing "/var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb"     how may i fix this????13:07
ActionParsni1id power off the system and move the card to a different pci slot13:07
lg188i did tha 2X already13:08
flaccidads_: what are you trying to install/do ?13:08
machiel!dpkg | machiel13:08
ActionParsni1lg188: ok cool13:08
flaccidlg188: fyi i have had 3 dead belkin devices in my history and 1 was a pci wireless card..13:08
flaccidthe other two were routers which i nearly threw out the window heh13:08
ads_flaccid:  i lost kde last night ive reinstalled it today but konqueror is broken   and when i try and reinstall it i get the error i just quoted any ideas?13:09
flaccidall were new etc.13:09
ActionParsni1lg188: id try it in another rig, if you get no joy then its screwed, you have 1 year parts warranty so you can easily take it back with no hassle13:09
flaccidads_: pastebin output of sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb13:09
ads_flaccid:  i havent got kqueror  hence i cant get to a webpage!!13:10
ads_flaccid:  maybe i can send u the output in another channel? (create one)13:11
lg188kk13:11
ads_flaccid: join #helpMePLs    and i will paste there if you dont mind?13:12
flaccidads_: you might need to install firefox or learn how to use pastebinit13:12
flaccidor simply paste the important lines here without flooding13:12
ads_flaccid: i cant install firefox either and yes i know how to use pastebin13:12
flaccidads_: yeah or some other channel ok13:12
flaccidads_: nah i was saying pastebinit :)13:12
flaccid!info kio-umountwrapper13:14
ubottukio-umountwrapper (source: kio-umountwrapper): progress dialog for safely removing devices in KDE.. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 12 kB, installed size 108 kB13:14
besitzer__wie kann ich programme bei linux installieren?13:15
flaccidads_: ok so they have a common file but its different between the two packages which is technically a bug and you can submit one if you like by pasting that. to fix do this sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb13:15
flaccid!de | besitzer__13:15
ubottubesitzer__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:15
ads_flaccid: thanks  ive pasted the result again :)13:17
flaccidads_: do a sudo apt-get upgrade now and let me know result13:18
ads_flaccid: ok  btw  konqueror is loading now :)13:18
flaccidthen it won't be long till its fixed :)13:18
flaccidneed to make sure its all fixed up but13:18
flaccidsudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins && sudo apt-get upgrade to make sure13:18
ads_flaccid: thanks all fixed13:22
flaccidok coolio np13:22
ads_flaccid: more fast help from you.. thanks again bye13:23
lg188are there some cool tricks ?13:23
lg188brb13:23
lg188bbk13:24
lg188like i knwo the alt+space13:24
flaccidwhat is alt + space?13:24
lg188and left mouse copy and midle is paste13:24
lg188katapult13:25
flaccid i guess it depends which shortcuts you use13:25
flaccidoh yeah forgot about katapult13:25
lg188it's an auto on i think13:25
flaccidhmm not for me13:25
flaccidi have to run it first :)13:25
lg188oh13:25
lg188what is the meta button ?13:30
flaccidum usually windows key iirc13:30
lg188nope13:30
Dr_Williswindows = super key i thouhgt13:30
Dr_Willismeta = alt,13:30
lg188where is meta ?13:30
lg188nope Dr_Willis13:31
flaccidthats what i thought as well, but on my kde4 on my desktop yakuake believes its the windows key at least..13:31
Dr_Willislg188,  nope to what exactly?13:31
lg188on keyboard wher is the meta key13:31
Dr_WillisTheres really only 2 keys ig cule be. :)13:31
Dr_WillisThe meta key is normally the alt key.  i belive. and emacs can use the esc key as a meta key.13:32
lg188nope esc is not alt is not13:32
flaccidwe are both right : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key13:32
Dr_WillisThe key may be considered equivalent to the Macintosh's command key, which has the same location and similar function. On modern keyboards, it is usually emulated with Alt key or with the Windows key. As an alternative in some programs, Meta key is emulated by pressing and releasing the Esc key (see Emacs).13:32
Dr_Willislg188,  it is to. :) in emacs13:32
lg188alt gr ?13:33
Dr_Willison some  language keyboards13:33
lg188kk13:34
* Dr_Willis is still looking for the 'any' key13:35
ik_>.<13:36
lg188http://kde-look.org/13:36
lg188hue how see kde version again ?13:39
flaccidlg188: kicker --version or goto help | about in any kde3 program13:40
lg188tx13:40
lg188how apply an theme ?13:42
flaccid!themes | lg18813:42
lg188ubotu crashed ?13:42
ubottulg188: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy13:42
lg188i have an them i mind how to apply13:43
shampoonatormmh id like to install the firefox rc3, are there any official packages?13:46
flaccidshampoonator: 3.0 is in the repos already13:48
shampoonatorbut it says alpha13:48
shampoonatoris it the same?13:49
flaccidshampoonator: have you installed it yet?13:52
flaccid!info firefox | shampoonator13:52
ubottushampoonator: firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 64 kB, installed size 120 kB13:52
flaccidit looks pretty final to me, certainly not alpha. are you using hardy?13:52
Dr_WillisYou did have firefox closed when you update/upgraded?13:53
shampoonatorgutsy13:54
flaccidlet me see what gutsy has for fx313:54
Dr_WillisI dident think Gutsy was getting FF3 any time soon.13:54
shampoonatorand it says version 3.0a813:55
shampoonatormmh k13:55
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shampoonatorthx13:55
flaccidok gutsy-backports only gets 3.0~b4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 so you are on your own if you want a newer version13:55
lg188hue how do you get that them working ?13:56
shampoonatornow i somehow missed that hardy was released ><13:56
shampoonatori think i just upgrade ;)13:56
ActionParsni1hey all13:57
Dr_Willisshampoonator,  heh.. ya missed the big party!13:58
flaccidshampoonator: sweet13:58
ActionParsni1big party??13:58
shampoonatorsee you later (if i get problems :D)14:07
lg188hey ?14:10
msihola14:14
wimpiesI set LOCK_SCREEN to false in /etc/default/acpi-support but still after a resume my screen is locked ... ???14:15
msicomo cambio al canal español14:16
msihola14:18
lg188Teardrop by Massive Attack.14:19
flaccidnice track :)14:20
msihola14:20
engineerhola14:21
flaccid!es14:21
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:21
msigracias14:22
helpywhat is the sudo command to get flash player ?14:24
helpy!flashplayer14:24
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:25
galathalionhow do i set ktorrent as default in ff3?14:27
flaccidgalathalion: not 100% sure. i thought firefox generally goes on last opened with. but check in #firefox14:27
galathalionthnx14:28
lg188damn kicker is lost14:29
lg188help please14:30
lg188kicker is away14:30
lg188killed the wrong procces14:30
engineerkicker &14:31
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lg188why the & ?14:39
lg188that is anoying just ive kicker14:39
engineerlg188 http://kb.iu.edu/data/afnz.html14:39
lg188?14:40
lg188wthek14:40
flaccid& is background in summary14:41
nazgjunkhey, a rather minor issue here - knetwalk's screen appears to be too small for the Expert mode, has anyone else noticed this?14:43
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flaccidnazgjunk: seems ok for me in 1.014:47
nazgjunkodd.14:48
flaccidthats a crazy game14:49
candiveHi all, I have saved a bill in my docs folder but when I try to open it I get an error mess. how do I delete this file?? right and left clicks only cause error please help14:56
candiveThe desktop entry file14:58
candive/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop14:58
candivehas an invalid menu entry14:58
candiveaddAsPodcast.14:58
candiveWhere is everyone???15:01
engineernowhere15:02
flaccidcandive: this is a bug. edit the file and remove the text/html entry15:02
flaccidi was making a cup of soup for my houstemate :p15:02
candiveedit how15:02
flaccidcandive: kdesudo kate /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop15:02
candivenew15:02
lg188Hans Teeuwen15:02
candivewidow open15:04
flaccidremove text/html, only then exit and save15:04
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lg188can you oprete an ftp ?15:05
flaccidsure15:05
lg188operate ?*15:05
lg188fun15:05
candiveThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop.15:05
candiveCheck that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.15:05
flaccidcandive: did you run it under kdesudo kate /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop ?15:06
lg188how flaccid15:06
flaccid!ftp | lg18815:06
ubottulg188: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd15:06
candiveshell console "konsole15:06
flacciddepends if you want server or client15:06
Aw0Ldoes kdm themes not work for anyone else?  It did at first, and after some installing/uninstalling it's broken15:06
engineerfireftp for firefox15:06
lg188server15:07
engineerproftpd15:07
flaccidAw0L: yeah thats pretty normal15:07
helpyi can't kill the processes in my kubuntu15:07
flaccid!ftpd | lg18815:07
ubottulg188: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP15:07
helpyit says not enough rights15:07
Aw0Lflaccid, are you serious?15:07
helpythis kubuntu installation is freaking me out15:07
flaccidAw0L: yes15:07
flaccidhelpy: kill under sudo then15:07
helpyhow ?15:08
lg188helpy: ctr+alt+esc klik the program not in bar downsid15:08
flaccidhelpy: sudo kill -i pid15:08
candiveflaccid,15:08
candiveThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop.15:08
candiveCheck that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.15:08
Aw0Lflaccid, it seems to work in other distros - know of a fix?15:08
helpyi dont even have system manager in my menu15:08
helpyupdates won't run15:08
helpyupgrades won't work15:08
helpyits mess15:08
flaccidAw0L: only editing kdmrc manually really15:08
helpyhow do i get owners right ?15:08
flaccidcandive: if you ran it under kdesudo you shouldn't have that problem.15:08
Aw0Lflaccid, and manually specifying a theme?15:08
flaccidAw0L: if its valid, or specifying no theme15:09
helpyunknown signal 'i'15:09
Aw0Lflaccid, I'll give that a try, thanks15:10
flaccidnp15:10
flaccidhelpy: sorry sudo kill -i pid15:10
flaccidoops. sudo kill -9 pid15:10
helpystill nothing15:11
helpyisn't there a way to get owner's right forever ?15:11
helpyi hate when linux asks me for authentication over and over15:11
candiveflaccid, k menu, system, konsole-terminal15:11
flaccid!root | helpy15:12
ubottuhelpy: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo15:12
candiveflaccid, su, passwd = no response15:12
flaccidcandive: sorry ?15:12
candivenp15:12
helpyhow does it help me flaccid  ?15:13
flaccidplease provide the actual errors.15:13
helpyi can't install anything15:13
helpyi can't upgrade15:13
helpyi can't get my firefox to work properly15:13
helpyits a mess.15:13
flaccidhelpy: it explains to you how to use root and sudo correctly15:13
flaccid!doesntwork15:13
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.15:13
flaccidwe can only really help people who explain the problems. we don't have telepathic abilities15:14
candiveI opened k menu to get to konsole, entered su, entered passwrd no movement15:14
helpywhat else is there to explain ?15:14
flaccidno movement?15:14
flaccidhelpy: you could explain the error which is what we need.15:14
candivebox at end of password thay is all15:14
flaccidexplain as in. paste the error15:14
vbgunzwhats up with amarok, it is sounding choppy and in ksysguard is running steady at 49-50% user% ... anyone know whats up?15:15
helpyERROR: garbage process ID "apt-get".15:15
flaccidhorray an error!15:15
vbgunzI am only playing ogg on amarok, what could be causing it to run steady at 50%?15:15
candiveflaccid, should by my first word before ?15:15
vbgunzI only have 2 songs in the playlist atm15:15
flaccidok helpy now you can do just what im going to do anyway which is google th error...15:15
helpygreat15:15
flaccidcandive: i don't understand you at all sorry15:15
candiveflaccid, I followed the instructions but neglected to use "su" when I try to open su passwrd is entered with no response15:16
flaccidhelpy: i don't know what the problem is but its likely you have broken something15:17
flaccidcandive: its freezes?15:17
flaccidcandive: the problem there is that su passwd is not valid. you are probably wanting to do sudo passwd15:18
candivepasswrd not displayed is ok but no new line appears like freeze, yes15:18
lg188how delete wine ?15:18
flaccidhelpy: have you tried to reboot?15:18
helpyyes15:18
helpydoesnt work15:18
helpyi am really flippin out here15:18
candiveflaccid will try sudo15:19
flaccidhelpy: sudo killall apt-get15:19
helpyapt-get: no process killed15:19
flaccidhelpy: pastebin ps aux | grep apt-get15:19
helpyminhaaj  14669  0.0  0.0    300    72 pts/2    R+   20:19   0:00 grep apt-get15:19
flaccidlooks like you have broken your sysem in some way helpy15:20
helpyi have flaccid15:20
helpyi am more interested in fixing it btw15:20
flaccidhelpy: you already knew that?15:20
lg188hello Howto delete wine ?15:20
flaccidhelpy: cant fix something unless you know how it was broken15:20
helpyyep, apps are not in menu15:20
lg188adept ?15:20
helpythings are different15:20
flaccidlg188: remove the package wine15:20
helpyactually my internet is terrible today15:20
flaccidlg188: yes adept15:21
lg188kk15:21
helpyi kept on disconnecting while updating kubuntu15:21
candiveflaccid, ? -kate opened15:21
flaccidhelpy: id say you have broken your system while attempting an update. the problems you have are not normal15:21
helpywhat next flaccid  ?15:21
flaccidcandive: cool15:21
candiveyup15:21
flaccidhelpy: backup and reinstall15:21
helpyawesome !!!15:21
helpyand update 214 MB install ?15:21
candiveflaccid, am i done?15:21
flaccidhelpy:  and try not to break it again :)15:22
helpymy internet is pathetic today. and who knows i wouldnt break up again ?15:22
flaccidcandive: i don't know did you make the edit and save the file?15:22
flaccidhelpy: well if you don't know what you are doing...15:22
candiveflaccid, I just want it gone15:22
* flaccid takes a breathe of air15:22
flaccidcandive: not a good idea.15:23
flaccidthat kind of attitude is what breaks things :)15:23
candiveflaccid,15:23
helpyyea right.15:23
candiveflaccid, oops, the file is just an old bill15:23
flaccidold bill?15:23
candiveI downloaded a bill from my IP15:24
flaccidamarok_addaspodcast.desktop is not your bill.15:24
flaccidcandive: so how did you go with the edit and save. please focus on the solution.15:25
lg188Purgin ?15:25
lg188Purging ?15:25
flaccidlg188: what is your question?15:26
candiveflaccid, confused, I edited and saved15:26
flaccid1 word is not a question :)15:26
lg188what does it means15:26
flaccidcandive: ok then its fixed and if not, log out then back in15:26
flaccidlg188: completely removing15:26
lg188kk15:26
candiveflaccid, ok thanks will try15:26
flaccidnp15:26
* flaccid goes to get another wine15:27
lg188flaccid: lol15:27
ahmedhi does compiz fusion support radeon 7000?15:27
flaccidahmed: pretty sure it does15:28
ahmedflaccid: ok thanks i just installed kubuntu 715:29
ahmedflaccid: ok thanks i just installed kubuntu 7.10 how to install the driver of radeon 7000 without any risk to use compiz15:29
flaccidcol15:29
flaccidum lets just check the ati list to make sure its supported by fglrx and not full legacy15:30
bolitohi15:30
flaccid!hi | bolito15:30
ubottubolito: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:30
bolitocontestme alguien si sabe español15:30
lg188hue is kubuntu running with an image  ?15:31
bolitocomo me puedo cambiar de canal con el konversacion para ubuntu 8.04 de hardy heron15:31
lg188it's sort of hdd tha is mounted ?15:31
lg188!esp15:31
ubottuFactoid esp not found15:31
lg188!span15:31
ubottuFactoid span not found15:31
FoxIII!es15:31
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:31
flaccidahmed: apparently its just the ones older than 7000. goto kdesu restricted-manager-kde and let us know what it says15:31
ahmedflaccid: u mean i have type kdesu restricted-manager-kde in run15:32
lg188tx FoxIII15:32
candiveflaccid, tried log out in and restart, its still there15:32
lg188Dr_Willis_: hey15:33
lg188hey lappari15:33
ahmedflaccid: i typed kdesu restricted-manager-kde in run and it says hardware doesnt need any driver15:33
lg188!dtch|lg18815:33
flaccidahmed: ok what does glxinfo | grep -i direct say?15:34
ahmedflaccid: direct rendering: Yes15:35
jussi01ahmed: which gfx card you have?15:36
ahmedjussi01:radeon 700015:37
flaccidjussi01: its a radeon 7000 . i thought that it could do fglrx according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers/ATI15:37
jussi01ahmed: the ati driver should work out of the box for that15:37
jussi01anything 9500 and newer needs the fglrx15:37
geniicandive: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=309536915:37
flaccidwell i wouldn't say need..15:37
jussi013d should be automatically enabled15:37
flaccidahmed: sounds like you are ready15:38
jussi01flaccid: no, the fglrx drvers are not for older than 950015:38
* jussi01 has a 9250, I should know15:38
ahmedflaccid: is that mean i dont have to install any driver and i can use compiz fusion now??15:38
flaccidjussi01: so the wiki is wrong?15:38
jussi01ahmed: correct15:38
jussi01!ati | flaccid read here:15:38
ubottuflaccid read here:: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:38
flaccidyeah15:38
ahmedjussi01: thanks man and thanks for flaccid too15:38
Aw0Lflaccid, you're getting attacked aren't yoU?15:38
flaccidjussi01: read here first line: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers/ATI15:39
candivegenii, thanks15:39
flaccidim used to it, but jussi01 and genii here to the rescue15:39
flaccidi dislike the the sloppy nature of our documentation :)15:39
jussi01flaccid: so? it says older than the 700015:39
jussi01flaccid: if you dislike it, why dont you investigate, then correct it?15:40
jussi01it is a wiki after all :)15:40
ahmedthanks i'll try  compiz fusoin15:40
flaccidbecause im too busy here15:40
flaccidi don't know the ins and outs of video card models nor do i have the time to investigate so i like to trust what is in place15:41
jussi01flaccid: all the same, that wiki seems correct to me anyway15:42
flaccidim also against this free form wiki idea :)15:42
flaccidPre-radeon - Cards older than the original Radeon 7000 (such as the Rage cards) have no 3d acceleration available. <-- suggests the 7000 will work with fglrx 3d15:42
jussi01no, suggest the 7000 will have 3d, as it does15:43
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flaccidjussi01: then why is restricted manager not suggesting restricted driver?15:43
jussi01flaccid: because it uses the radeon/ati free driver15:44
candivegenni, flaccid, Thank you both Very Much! problem solved. cool I think kubuntu is the best!15:44
flaccidjussi01: yes by default, but restricted manager is for enabling the restricted drivers and according to this wiki which you say is correct it should suggest fglrx15:44
flaccidcandive: np15:44
jussi01flaccid: for cards between the 7000 and up to the 9500 the free ati driver gives 3d15:45
flaccidi have a 9600 and it suggests the restricted driver although using radeon out of box15:45
flaccidjussi01: yeah i know that. you are missing the point..15:45
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candivePeople, keep up the great work! chow.15:48
Belliashhi15:49
Belliashcan U tell me what is responsible for OSD volume notifications with kmix? is it kosd? kmilo? sth else?15:50
geniiBelliash: kmilo15:51
Belliashgenii: how to change it look ?15:51
lg188涼しい15:53
geniiBelliash: It's resource file is in ~/.kde/share/config/kmilodrc        But I'm not sure I'd want to tinker much with that unless you know what you're doing.15:53
candiveLast question for today, how do I sort my bookmarks in konqueror?15:56
candiveI take that back, wiil use forum15:57
candivechow15:57
ubuntu__i i just installed new system and after updating i restart it it says cannot find file when select kubuntu  from grum15:58
ubuntu__*grub15:58
DrSilentupdating meaning updating the kernel to a new version?15:59
DrSilentit should have asked you if you wanted to keep your old grub file at some point15:59
DrSilentwhat did you answer?15:59
flaccidubuntu__: which grub error number is it?16:00
* genii suspects 1716:00
ubuntu__no updatong kernel updating the applications the small icon appear behind the clock16:00
ubuntu__i think it was number 500016:00
flaccidlol16:00
LamerManguys, where could i download latest gnuarm toolchain packages?16:01
flaccidim going to have a break for a bit genii16:01
geniiflaccid: I'm back and forth from here to work but I'll try to field some Q's16:02
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DrSilentwell then16:04
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Guest19273hola16:05
DrSilentdo you know how to reset the login screen window to its standard appearance in 8.04 KDE3?16:05
DrSilentI tried to change it and it borked, and now i can't get it back to normal16:05
venikwhen I reboot kubuntu 8.04, it often reboots in 640X480 screen format, and I have to copy a fresh xorg.conf on the old one, to get it back.  What is going on?16:06
flaccidDrSilent: i should be on a break, but the simple solution is sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm16:06
venikKDE316:06
* flaccid runs off now to eat and drink16:06
_CrashMaster_DrSilent: KMenu / System Settings / Advanced / Login Manager, then click the DEFAULTS button16:06
wimpies kdescreensaver seems to be locked after resume from hibernation ... How can I disable that ?16:06
DrSilentI did that crashmaster, it no worky16:06
DrSilentso full resinatll huh16:06
DrSilentguess i'll try that16:06
ubuntu__hi again i checked now i get grub error 15 after updating16:07
coopafiolguau aca todo en ingles16:07
coopafiolno hay alguno que hable en español16:07
_CrashMaster_!es | coopafiol16:07
flaccid_CrashMaster_: that doesn't always work because its pretty buggy in systemsettings there which is why its stuffed to bein with, but i hope it does..16:07
ubottucoopafiol: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:07
* flaccid minimises konv to tray16:07
coopafiolgracias muy amable16:07
venikwhen I reboot kubuntu 8.04, it often reboots in 640X480 screen resolution, and I have to copy a fresh xorg.conf on the old one, to get it back.  What is going on?16:08
ubuntu__i get grub error 15 after updating and restart i just installed the system16:09
geniiLamerMan: Maybe here someplace http://www.gnuarm.org/files.html16:09
ubuntu__any idea or i have to reinstall the systemagain?16:10
geniiubuntu__: That error indicates it can't find the kernel on the device you are trying to boot from.16:12
LamerMangenii thanks, there are no pre-built packages as i know, i tried to find toolchain in deb files, not to compile it from sources. :)16:13
ubuntu__genii: so how to solve this?? ijust install the kubuntu 7.10 and update the packages16:13
geniiubuntu__: Was the update interrupted, or go badly?16:13
flaccidits actually a bug. i've had kubuntu update the wrong location on me many times16:14
ubuntu__genii: yes it said some puckiges had errors while downloading16:14
llutzubuntu__: pastebin the output of "ls -l /boot" and your /boot/grub/menu.lst please16:14
flaccidits usually +1 or -1 in the menu.list location16:14
ubuntu__im using the kubuntu desktop cd and run it in consol the output was16:16
ubuntu__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  424317 2007-10-15 01:39 abi-2.6.22-14-generic16:16
ubuntu__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   75311 2007-10-15 01:39 config-2.6.22-14-generic16:16
ubuntu__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7123733 2007-10-16 22:10 initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak16:16
ubuntu__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  103204 2007-09-28 10:06 memtest86+.bin16:16
ubuntu__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  823535 2007-10-15 01:39 System.map-2.6.22-14-generic16:16
ubuntu__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1764280 2007-10-15 01:39 vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic16:16
grendal_primeok guys back from training, now.   This keyboard config thing is really makeing me crazy.  I dont understand how this could go this long as a bug...its just really anoying and totally limiting on the laptop.  I cannot use alt-tab, i cannot use any of the fn keys on my keyboard.  It seems to be something totally related to the kubuntu distro (ie ubuntu does not seem to suffer from this) so it leads me to believe that it is simply a16:16
grendal_primeconfiguration issue.16:16
flaccidlol16:16
flaccidgrendal_prime: which kde version?16:17
grendal_primebut i cant find any helpfull information regarding this from google.16:17
grendal_prime3.5.816:17
grendal_prime7.1 distrobution.16:17
flaccidgrendal_prime: try creating a new user and see if that user has the same problem or not16:18
flaccidllutz: user gone16:21
grendal_primeflaccid ya same problem for the new user.16:22
flaccidgrendal_prime: maybe bug the people in #kde16:22
Dr_Willis_I got an odd keyboard issue  the alt-right arrow key combo seems to repeate very fast. Not sure if its compiz specific or not.. since i cant find anything other then the compiz cube/task switcher to make it do it..  or to test.16:23
Dr_Willis_wonder if all these keyboard issues are some how related to a deeper problem16:23
flaccidthere a lots of these issues in kde4 as well16:24
maduserunlike konsole16:24
flaccid'oh my alt - tab aint working anymore for no reason' randomly16:24
Dr_Willis_im seeing this under gnome and kde 316:25
Dr_Willis_not tried kde416:25
flaccidi rea that..16:25
flaccidread even16:25
grendal_primeand i had a friend call me up he installed latest kubuntu and had the same issue16:25
grendal_primetried that flaccid16:25
Dr_Willis_Hmm.. This is weird.. I can ping google.com from my laptop.. but i get host unreachable for  pinging the router at 192.168.1.116:26
flaccidits kind of ironic how its all open source yet these problems are not easily fixed :)16:26
Dr_Willis_What the heck :)16:26
flaccidtry to traceroute it Dr_Willis_16:26
flaccidsee what that says16:27
Dr_Willis_I wonder if it had to do with me having wireless and wired both plugged in.. then turning off the wireless. :)16:28
Dr_Willis_i think it finally started working16:28
Dr_Willis_gee does it mixx the 2 together if i download somthing? :)16:28
geniiProbably not unless you're running some bandwidth aggregator16:29
Dr_Willis_first time ive evern actially HAD a machine with wireless working under linux16:31
Dr_Willis_Im so used to using static ips and editing the host file. not sure what to do with a machine that has 2 ips :) one wirless one wired.16:32
Drk_GuyHi guys!16:33
Drk_GuyI've just downloaded kde4 for my ubuntu hardy, originally with gnome16:33
Drk_GuyBut gnome apps look funny16:33
Drk_GuyThey just don't mix with the look and feel of the system16:33
DrSilentthat doesn't sound very surprising...16:34
Drk_Guylol16:35
Drk_GuyGtk won't mix right with Qt, right?16:35
Dr_Willis_mix? I mix and match kde/gnome apps all the time and never have issues.16:35
flaccidDrk_Guy: you can install gtk-qt-engine and config it through system settings - appearance or wait for the new one they are developing which will be better, but the current one is ok for kde316:35
Dr_Willis_but kde4 is still a work in progress16:35
Drk_GuyI'm gonna download replacements for gtk apps16:35
flaccidie. gtk styles and fonts..16:36
Daisuke_IdoDrk_Guy: good luck16:36
Drk_Guyflaccid, i'll try to install that16:36
flaccidDrk_Guy: you may not need to :)16:36
Drk_Guylol16:36
Drk_Guywoah16:36
Drk_GuyKde was running without kwin16:36
Drk_GuyXD16:36
flaccidhaha16:36
Drk_GuyIs it running with metacity?16:36
Drk_GuyNice, i ran compiz and now apps focus by mouse hovering16:37
Drk_GuyI want it the classic way16:37
Dr_Willis_focus follows mouse.. is the 'classic' way :)16:38
Dr_Willis_from way way way back :)16:38
Drk_Guylol16:38
Drk_GuyApple Lisa or what?16:38
Drk_GuyXD16:38
Dr_Willis_Like 1986 and befor. :)16:38
flaccidwell you do need a window manager and ccsm can change the focus behaviour how you want16:38
Drk_GuyOk, i'll try to do it with ccsm16:38
Drk_GuyBut in gnome, it kept with the "modern" way16:38
Dr_Willis_ccsm takes over a lot of things.16:39
Dr_Willis_never noticed where the focus follows mouse setting is at.16:39
Dr_Willis_well compiz takes over. :)16:39
Drk_Guylol16:39
Dr_Willis_its mass confuseion and anarchy all over again!16:40
flaccida window manager is a window manager. when kwin leaves the scene, it leaves16:40
Drk_GuyI'm downloading the best linux media player available - amarok16:40
grendal_primelooks like gnome power-manager does the trick16:40
Drk_GuyXD16:40
flaccidDrk_Guy: its not a media player16:40
flaccidits just an audio player :)16:40
Drk_Guy:/ your kinda right16:40
Daisuke_Idonot kinda, completely.16:40
Drk_GuyBut i like to call it media player for some reason16:40
Drk_GuyXD16:40
geniiwindows-isms16:41
Dr_Willis_Well if MS can call their Pice-o-poo a media player... i guess anything can be called that. :)16:41
flaccidhaha16:41
Drk_Guylol16:41
Daisuke_Idocertainly the best audio collection manager i've used16:41
Drk_GuyWingubs s*** player16:41
Drk_GuyWsp16:41
ahmedhi today i installed kubuntu 7.10 and updated the packages after the updateing finished i got the error that some packegs error while downloded when i restart the system i got the error 15 file not found now i installed the system again and i want to update but im afraid to get the same error again what i have to do ?16:42
Drk_Guyahmed, you installed packages with downlaoding errors16:42
flaccidgenii should be able to help ahmed16:42
Drk_Guyahmed, You got to download them all16:42
fulat2khi folks, may i know what's the best way to re-install grub after installing xp on an existing kubuntu system?16:42
Drk_Guyahmed, Because if you install only a piece of them, it will update wrong stuff16:43
ahmedDrk_Guy: i just install and update i select all to update16:43
Drk_Guyfulat2k, konsole, grub, find /boot/grub/stage1, grub install...16:43
Drk_Guyahmed, download ALL packages, do not let it update if it downloaded only a part of it16:44
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geniiflaccid: For some issues that will be taking a long time to rectify I can't really, because I'm getting yanked away here for extended periods today16:44
fulat2kDrk_Guy: i'm trying it out on a livecd b4 installing xp.  but find /boot/grub/stage1 says Error 15: File not found.  i currently have my boot partition in hd(0,7).16:44
Drk_GuyKde apps are bigger in size than gnome ones16:44
Drk_Guyfulat2k, if you knwo you have it there, proceed16:45
flpwchis there a timeframe for kubuntu packages for kde4.0.8016:45
Drk_Guyflpwch, I just installed kde4 ;)16:45
flaccidgenii: Drk_Guy is getting close to the gist of it16:45
Drk_Guyflpwch, all of them are ready16:45
fulat2kDrk_Guy: just do setup(hd0,7) ?16:45
flpwchoh, sweet16:45
Drk_Guy:)16:45
flpwchi didn't know if they were still the kde4.0 stuff16:45
Drk_Guyfulat2k, yeah, make sure your menu.lst is right16:45
ahmedDrk_Guy:i u se adept updater i make fetch list of update then apply update how do i know the some downloading goes wrong??16:45
Drk_Guyahmed, synaptic told me if there were d/l errors, i dnt know for adept dude, sorry16:46
fulat2kDrk_Guy: cool.  well, hope it'll re-install itself in the MBR then.16:46
flaccidfulat2k: you need to re-install grub16:46
Drk_Guy:)16:46
Drk_GuyI'll transform this ubuntu into kubuntu16:47
fulat2kflaccid: i'm thinking of these steps: root(hd0,7)  setup(hd0)16:47
Drk_GuyXD16:47
flaccidahmed: you may need to reinstall grub too if you get error 15 still after find /boot/grub/stage1 in grub prompt16:47
ahmedDrk_Guyok: i'll install synaptic and use it it willbe safe16:47
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Drk_Guyahmed, I wouldn't do so, but your free to do it16:47
flaccidyou guys need to do what Drk_Guy has advised and confirm that grub is installed properly first. if it is, it will return the correct location16:47
Drk_Guy:)16:48
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ahmedDrk_Guy: u told me u r using synaptic and it tell u if something wrong??16:48
Drk_GuyWoah, this cahnnel reamins real calmed down compared to #ubuntu16:48
Drk_Guyahmed, I just switched to kde16:48
Dr_Willis_we are all on prozak :)16:48
Drk_Guyahmed, I was using gnome16:48
flaccidi never get help in that channel when i go there it feels like an over populated cess pool :p16:48
flpwchthis is weird16:49
ahmedDrk_Guy: then what u think i have to do now?? anyone using kde here16:49
Dr_Willis_you can only stand   'i deleted everyting from the panel, how do i get it back' so many times. :)16:49
flpwchif the kubuntu 4.1b1 packages are out16:49
flpwchwhy isn't sudo aptitude upgrade doing them?16:49
Drk_Guyahmed, Just use adept16:49
flaccid!kde4 | flpwch16:49
ubottuflpwch: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde416:49
flpwchwoop16:50
ahmedDrk_Guy: and if it  give me error after updating the some package have error while downloading what i have to do??? if i restarted the system i will face the same grub error16:51
Drk_Guyahmed, cancel update and restart it, dont worry, it'll ask you if you want to proceed with download errors16:51
Drk_Guyahmed, if it asks, say no and retry updating16:52
flaccidjust fix the grub problem first16:52
ahmedDrk_Guy: it didnt aask me at all it says the error after finished update16:52
Drk_Guyahmed, weird, it shouldn't proceed with download errors16:53
flaccidahmed: please goto grub in konsole, once there please then execute find /boot/grub/stage1 and let us know what it returns16:53
ahmedDrk_Guy: that what happened with me last ime today16:53
tvrtkohello16:54
Drk_Guyahmed, retry, i really don't know how adept works16:54
ahmedflaccid:Error 15: File not found16:54
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ahmedflaccid: Error 15: File not found   the same error i got after update and restart16:55
Drk_Guylol16:55
Drk_GuyThen something erased grub16:55
ahmedwhat i have to do?? im not experience with linux16:56
flaccidahmed: pretty easy one sec16:57
ahmedok16:57
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flaccidahmed: are you in the livecd or the normal install ?16:59
Drk_Guyflaccid, I can't seem to fing gtk-qt-engine configuration module16:59
ahmednow im in normall install16:59
flaccidDrk_Guy: you need to install it16:59
ahmedsomething happened weired now i logged off once i didnt push any button17:00
Drk_Guyflaccid, done17:00
flaccidahmed: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l just so i can confirm the disk location ?17:00
flaccidDrk_Guy: should be in system settings - appearance now17:00
ahmed/dev/sda1            2551        4997    19655527+   7  HPFS/NTFS17:01
ahmed/dev/sda2               1         124      995998+  82  Linux swap / Solaris17:01
ahmed/dev/sda3   *         125        2550    19486845   83  Linux17:01
flaccidright17:01
Drk_Guyflaccid, which package enables me to use spanish lang, my mom only speaks spanish17:01
flaccidDrk_Guy: no idea sorry17:01
Drk_Guyflaccid, rats17:02
flaccidDrk_Guy: im just a dumb aussie :)17:03
inaetyi just reformatted and installed 8.04.  before ubuntu asked me if i wanted the nvidia drivers installed and did it for me.  Where did that go, it isn't asking me? and envy isn't seeming to work17:03
flaccidahmed: bare with me ahmed, im trying to remember and make sure this is right give me 5mins please17:03
flaccidinaety: kdesudo jockey-kde17:03
ahmedflaccid: ok man im waitning17:03
Drk_Guyflaccid, XD17:03
inaetynice flaccid17:04
flaccidinaety: aka Hardware Drivers Manager17:04
inaetyflaccid: hmm i probably could have thought that on my own.  but thanks :) i didn't know it was called jockey17:04
flaccidinaety: yeah tis where the it comes from coolio17:05
inaetyflaccid: will it edit my xorg for me17:05
geniiLunchtime. I'll be here for the next 45 minutes slid or so.17:06
genii*solid17:06
Drk_GuyIs there an equivalent to "gtk-window-decorator" in kde4?17:06
geniiflaccid: Progress on the grub front yet?17:06
flaccidahmed: i found a guide that is going to be easier than me explaining. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-9f28b5a7f41d3659b2ae759665f8bc89ed5b351d if you follow that and subsitute the hda/hda2 for your sda/sda2 then you should be cool17:06
geniiDrk_Guy: kde-window-decorator, of course17:06
Drk_GuyI think it was qt, lol17:06
flaccidgenii: just a basic reinstall of grub17:06
flaccidinaety: yep17:07
Drk_Guygenii, i like compiz's effects, but i would like to mantain the system theme17:07
ahmedflaccid: ok i'll see it if i have proplem or something didnt understant i'll ask u ok man17:07
flaccidahmed: sounds good17:07
inaetyflaccid: thank you!17:07
flaccidnp17:07
inaetynow i can get my psx emulation on17:08
inaety:P17:08
Drk_Guylol, this is crazy17:08
flaccidits always crazy!17:08
geniiDrk_Guy: I think kde-window-decorator is in package compiz-kde. Anyhow it tries to use your rgular kde themes under compiz17:08
lat(network-admin:7562): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: GtkComboBox.items   <==<< How do I fix this?17:08
Drk_GuyRats17:08
Drk_Guythis kicker replacement sucks, i'm gonna install the classic kicker17:09
flaccidlat: ask in #ubuntu or the channel for the gtk program you are running?17:09
flaccidi was impressed with compiz-kde, it works pretty good17:09
latflaccid, thanks!17:09
Drk_Guycompiz-kde rocks17:09
flaccidnp lat17:10
Drk_GuyPlasma sucks17:10
flaccidlol17:10
Drk_GuyHow can i replace plasma with kicker?17:10
flaccidits actually really good except the bugs and issues with other things17:10
Drk_GuyI mean, everything is distorted, i can't get it back to normal17:10
flaccidDrk_Guy: wrong channel. goto #kde417:10
Drk_GuyThe things are wrongly placed17:11
geniiAlso in #kubuntu-kde4 is kde4 specific help17:11
ahmedflaccid: ok one last question befor i go with this do i have to do it now or after update??17:13
geniilat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/206291       I'm not sure if there is any fix currently17:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 206291 in gnome-system-tools "[network-admin] Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: GtkComboBox.items" [Undecided,New]17:13
flaccidahmed: probably best to finish your updates first, but in theory it shouldn't matter17:13
ahmedok i'll update first thanks man17:14
ik_hi guys..17:14
ik_i have a problem with my videocard17:15
ik_i just had to reinstall kubuntu, because it would only give me a blank screen17:15
ik_im now running KDE with the standard drivers, although they WORK, its far from optimal.17:15
ik_i cant have a higher res than 800x600, and cant run any 3D games/programs17:16
flaccidik_: which kubuntu versin?17:16
ik_latest, 8.0417:17
ik_just burned, and installed17:17
vipexHello17:17
flaccidik_: what is your lspci|grep VGA from konsole?17:17
ik_lemme check (1sec..)17:17
vipexWhy java isnt working with mozilla firefox?:O17:18
ik_ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] (rev ce)17:18
ik_i have the hd2300 though17:18
flaccidvipex: dont' worry i don't have it working either17:20
Drk_GuyXD flaccid17:20
Drk_GuyMe neither17:20
flaccidik_: do you have onboard as well17:20
Dr_Willis_Hmm.. i think java is working here.17:20
Drk_Guyyou need something like GCJ, but it won't install17:20
* flaccid goes to see if he can fix it *again*17:20
ik_its onboard, i have a laptop17:20
vipexOk17:20
geniiMy java is also working fine17:21
flaccidDrk_Guy: its not that simple!17:21
flaccidik_: so do you have 1 or 2 video cards in your notebook?17:21
ik_flaccid: or try to port IE7 with wine XD17:21
Drk_GuyFirefox won't have java plugin17:21
ik_one17:21
Drk_GuyXD ik_17:21
Drk_GuyIE7 sucks17:21
flaccidik_: you cannot port something that is closed source. it can run under wine however, i use it for testing :)17:22
ik_i know, thats why i proposed it lol17:22
ik_:-317:22
ik_thats what i meant lol17:22
latgenii, thanks.17:22
* flaccid is a web dev17:22
ik_anyway, my vid card.17:22
geniilat: np17:22
flaccidik_: so why is it showing as x2100 when you have a hd ?17:22
ik_dunno 0.o17:22
ik_i had to start the installation in safe graphics mode17:22
ik_otherwise my screen just turns off.17:23
zorglu_q. what is the standard procesdure to get cd reading/mp3 and co on 8.0417:23
flaccidik_: but you are sure that there is only 1 graphics card in your system ? if so pastebin lspci17:23
flaccid!mp3 | zorglu_17:23
ubottuzorglu_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:23
ik_i did a paste, why should i have two cards in a laptop lol17:24
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flaccidik_: i don't know. i also don't know why its showing a dif card apparently17:24
ik_lol, now THAT is why i have a problem :-317:24
Dr_Willis_how do you know its a 2300?17:24
ik_it says so in: 1:windows 2: manafacturer site17:25
zorglu_flaccid: some cleanup of those pages would be nice :)17:25
ads_hi im having real issues with ubuntu ...  kde is working fine but whenever a new install of ubuntu(gnome) leaves me with square zeroes for evry menu item and on the clock... can someone please help ive reinstalled twice now17:25
flaccidzorglu_: feel free to do so17:26
Dr_Willis_could be  the 2 chipsets are so very closely related17:26
ActionParsniphey all17:26
ik_the chipsets are the same, from a series (i think)17:26
zorglu_flaccid: each and every time i tried to contribute, i got rejected. now i just suggest :)17:26
flaccidik_: pastebin cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log; lspci  please17:26
Dr_Willis_ads_,  sounds like a font issue to me.  what do you mean by a 'new install of gnome'?17:26
ActionParsnipdoes anyone use clamav?17:26
ads_ive just done a apt-get ubuntu-desktop17:26
ads_Dr_Willis_: ya i think its encoding fonts or language settings   what may i do?17:27
flaccidzorglu_: ah well. don't worry i put up with that all the time too...17:27
Dr_Willis_ads_,  no idea. I only use english. so never mess with the  language settings17:27
ik_flaccid: thats a LOT of info17:27
ik_where do i put that?17:27
Dr_Willis_ik_,  use the pastebinit command17:28
ads_Dr_Willis_: i havent messed with nay settings its a fresh install?!17:28
ads_any*17:28
flaccid!pastebin > ik_17:28
ads_ive reinstalled gnome (ubuntu) twice now and i keep getting the same issue    i need to fix this17:28
flaccidads_: goto #ubuntu17:28
ik_!pastebin?17:28
ubottuFactoid pastebin? not found17:28
Dr_Willis_ads_,   you could install kubuntu, then isntall ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome that badly17:28
ads_flaccid: no help there :(   they dont know or arent answering17:29
Dr_Willis_ads_,  could be the cd ihas some bad spots.. or other issues.17:29
ik_im a bit new to linux lol (although i can handle it fine so far.)17:29
flaccidads_: thats normal17:29
Dr_Willis_ads_,  so basicially on a NEW clean install of ubuntu - your fonts are messed up. is what you mean to say?17:29
flaccidik_: yeah you paste it in the webpage and it will give you a URL for us so you don't flood17:29
ads_Dr_Willis_:   i didnt use the cd i used apt-get installl ubuntu-desktop   from kde!!17:29
flaccidmost of use here can't help too much with gnome17:30
ik_i didnt get a URL ^^17:30
ads_Dr_Willis_: yes a new install ...  but i am alreay running kubuntu i simply used apt to install ubuntu-desktop  (twice now!!)  but both times i get this error17:30
ik_just enough info to make konsole do a clear page.17:30
Dr_Willis_ads_,  you need to clarify things a bit then. You Installed Kubuntu, then you did a 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and the GNome fonts are messed up, but not kdes fonts?17:30
flaccidik_: you would of. you goto http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output then the next page will advise a URL17:30
zorglu_q. what is the default sound system used by kubuntu 8.04 ?17:30
ads_Dr_Willis_: yes   ... kde is fine17:31
zorglu_alsa ? pulse17:31
flaccidzorglu_: alsa and arts iirc17:31
zorglu_flaccid: ok thanks17:31
ik_i can paste, but not everything, because the info doesnt fit on the screen17:31
genii!pastebin17:31
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:31
Dr_Willis_ads_,  try making a new user, see if it affets them in gnome also.17:31
ik_i know what pastebin is now.17:31
flaccidik_: should be able to do it with the mouse17:31
ads_Dr_Willis_: ill try that now17:32
ik_but: 1 how do i use it, and 2: i cant select ALL the info from the konsole, because it simply doesnt fit in one console screen.17:32
vipexOhh i can play WoW on kubuntu;D17:32
vipexNice17:32
vipexIm gonna play17:32
vipex C ya17:32
Dr_Willis_well ya can play it with WINE  :)17:33
* flaccid is sitting next to a WoW junkie17:33
ik_http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22363/17:33
ik_thats the most i can paste.17:33
flaccidik_: thats cool, its enough17:34
ik_flaccid: k17:34
compilerwriter!DHT17:34
ubottuFactoid dht not found17:34
flaccidik_: so it seems you have a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] (rev ce)17:35
ik_thats 50% true.17:35
ik_i have a Ati radeon HD2300 mobile17:35
flaccidik_: you are on hardy?17:36
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ik_jep17:36
flaccidgive me 2mins to check this17:36
ik_8.04, just downloaded, and installed17:36
flaccidik_: can you goto kdesudo jockey-kde and let me know what it says?17:37
geniiik_: What does device lspci -nn | grep VGA    say? The device code might be useful17:37
flaccidgenii: its in the pastebin. already requested.17:38
flaccidgenii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22363/17:38
ik_one sec.17:38
geniiflaccid: No device codes there just bus id's etc17:38
flaccidyes but it doesn't help in this case17:39
flaccidlets see what Hardware Drivers Manager suggests17:40
ik_flaccid: on your first question: it says ATI accelerated graphic driver ( i know this screen, i installed it, that makes gaming faster, but it stops working after a reboot)17:40
ik_on your second question: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] [1002:7210] (rev ce)17:40
flaccidyeah got that in the pastebin17:40
flaccidik_: stops working how?17:41
geniiOK so 1002:7210 vendor/device combo then17:41
ik_it gets slow again17:41
ik_and the 3D apps dont start at all.17:41
flaccidik_: i would suggest editing your xorg.conf and changing driver to "ati" as per http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI17:42
ik_eh, where is xorg.conf located?17:43
flaccidik_: sorry /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:44
ik_k thx17:44
flaccidnp17:44
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ik_so flaccid, i change :17:45
ik_Section "Device"17:45
ik_Identifier"Configured Video Device"17:45
ik_Driver"vesa"17:45
ik_EndSection17:45
flaccidim not up with all the ins and outs of the video/driver stuff but seems like this card will not work under the restricted driver like you say and the driver db suggests "ati" not "radeon" not sure why17:45
flaccidik_: yep to Driver "ati"17:45
flaccidit should work under "radeon" as well although the driver db doesn't say that17:46
ik_k17:46
ik_ill try ati first.17:46
flaccidcool17:46
ik_if i dont come back for the coming day, you know it didnt work^^17:46
flaccidhehe ok17:46
ik_ok, changed it, now i reboot?17:48
ik_or what?17:48
flaccidik_: shouldn't need to. just log out to kdm and select restart X from dropdown17:49
ik_ok17:49
geniiflaccid: I'm getting the device identifier codes there in the radeon driver17:49
softnethola alguien habla espa;ol]17:49
flaccidgenii: URI ?17:49
Pici!es | softnet17:50
flaccidati will always work with radeon chips anyway17:50
ubottusoftnet: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:50
geniiflaccid: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/DRM.html17:50
softnetoki doki17:50
vipexHey whats the finnish kubuntu irc.?17:50
Dr_Willis_!fi17:50
ubottuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi17:50
softnetlos buscare soy nuevo en esto17:50
ik_im back,17:50
heartagramvannak itt magyarok?17:50
ik_the screen is still working :-317:50
Dr_Willis_that close vipex ?17:50
vipexthx17:50
heartagramvipex17:50
Dr_Willis_fi could be some other language. :) i just guessed17:50
heartagramsegítenél nekem?17:50
ik_now what did i do to check my videocard again?17:51
flaccidgenii: fair enough. i was using the debian db as its closer to ubuntu. however the question originally was more about whether the restricted driver would work. we know that both ati and radeon should work with a radeon chipset..17:51
flaccidik_: lspci | grep -i direct    <-- what does that say17:51
geniiYup17:51
ik_w00t, nothing!17:52
flaccidoops17:52
flaccidwrong command17:52
ik_:-317:52
ik_VGA17:52
flaccidglxinfo | grep -i direct17:52
flaccid^^ sorry ik_ getting late for me17:52
ads_Dr_Willis_: i cna log into kde with a new user..  but when i try with gnome i am left with the desktop wallpaper and thats it17:52
ik_:-317:52
ik_np17:52
ik_here it comes:17:53
ik_The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:17:53
ik_sudo apt-get install mesa-utils17:53
ik_bash: glxinfo: command not found17:53
ik_^^17:53
jussi01ik_: so do what it says :)17:53
flaccidik_: hmm fair enough. do a sudo apt-get install mesa-utils17:53
ik_ok:17:54
ik_direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)17:54
ik_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect17:54
flaccidads_: this really isn't the place for gnome support17:54
ads_flaccid: sorry :(   #ubuntu is useless   ill try again17:54
flaccidik_: ok well now you get into ATI 3d issues which at 3am for me im not up for17:54
ik_ok lol17:55
flaccidyour card is at least working for 2D17:55
ik_^.^17:55
Dr_Willis_ads_,  you really should write down all the different things you have been doing and clarify exactly what does/where.  and put it in a pastebin site. this sounds like a deep problem17:55
flaccidik_: might i suggest the #ati guys at this stage?17:55
jhutchins_wkThere may be others around who are though.  Generally ATI is very poor unless you're on their very latest card, which was released with Linux drivers included.17:55
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flaccidjhutchins_wk: thats not true!17:56
ik_well, i did install the drivers from ati.com once.17:56
flaccidim on an old card with no issues, this user is on a new card :p17:56
jhutchins_wkOk, well, their 2D support is flawless.17:56
flaccidik_: ah that could very well be the problem!17:56
ik_but that fucked Kubuntu up so much i had to reinstall ^^17:56
flaccidright17:56
ik_i just did a reinstall17:56
_CrashMaster_!coc17:56
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/17:56
ik_about a hour ago17:56
jhutchins_wkik_: language please.17:57
jhutchins_wkik_: Fun way to spend your day, eh?17:57
flacciddon't worry ati 3d issues can go on for days!17:57
ik_ow, right, sorry17:57
ik_jep17:57
ik_i reinstalled kubuntu 3x today17:57
ik_*yay*17:57
flaccidits extremely woeful17:57
flaccidhey im on ati17:57
softnetcomo le cambio de idioma a kubuntu17:57
* ik_ 's eye haz a little spaz.17:57
flaccid01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]17:57
softnetayudaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa17:57
softnetsorry esque no puedo cambiar el idioma a kubuntu17:58
softnetplease :p17:58
flaccidthats what im using with compiz fusion w/ all effects including a nice cube heh17:58
Pici!es | softnet17:58
ubottusoftnet: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:58
geniiPici: Thanks17:58
flaccidik_: don't worry ati users get used to it :)17:58
ik_multi lang bot ^^17:58
ik_i know.17:58
ik_i guess im making some eyebrow muscles know.17:59
ik_*now.17:59
flaccidik_: i feel your frustration. trust me. i spent 3 days to fix 3d once back in feisty17:59
ik_lol17:59
ik_i had something similar on my old rage3d back a year ago or so..18:00
ik_i thought: maybe i can setup a server on this old rig ^^18:00
flaccidwell its even harder with fglrx restricted driver. you are not even using that..18:00
ik_*should be easy. right?*18:00
flaccidnothing is easy with ATI18:01
ik_well. THAT is true.18:01
ik_so i guess im back at the start, except from the fact i now know there is a #ati channel ^^18:02
flaccidwhich is why i bought my housemate an nvidia 9600GT for playing WoW in wine instead of an ATI HD*18:02
ik_lol18:02
flaccidik_: pretty much18:02
jhutchins_wkExcept, supposedly their latest card comes with Linux drivers on the CD, and they're supposed to be good ones.18:02
dr_Willis supposedly :)18:02
flaccidyeah but it depends which card18:02
flaccidand i aint seen anyone with it yet18:02
geniijhutchins_wk: I've found the drivers are for RedHat18:02
jhutchins_wkThis is one they released like last week.18:02
flaccidomg big ouch!18:03
dr_Willispoor ads_ got some messed up gnome going on. :)18:03
jhutchins_wkYeah, I've had problems with stuff before that was only released for RH, or SuSE, or only for a specific kernel - even if they have source.18:03
ik_my A+ SW teacher had some drivers.. but they where out of date.18:03
ik_he has the EXACT same laptop as me lol18:04
geniijhutchins_wk: Asus motherboards are like that too, the souce code is on their cds but it's again all redhat centric18:04
flaccidwell im making do with my 9600 but im actually lucky compared to some of the users i help here18:04
flaccidredhat has it over debian thats for sure. always been that way in the corp18:05
ik_isnt there something like NDISwrapper for ati drivers lol18:05
flaccidouch18:05
ik_(ow wait, that wouldnt help anyway.)18:05
RiotingPacifistdoes anybody know much about the changes to the wireless stack?18:08
dr_WillisRiotingPacifist,  it finally works for me. :)18:08
RiotingPacifistIve alwaysed managed to get it working, but previously i could have 1 card working twice, i cant seem to do it anymore :(18:09
jhutchins_wk!info dkms | ik_18:11
ubottuik_: dkms (source: dkms): Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.19-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 50 kB, installed size 352 kB18:11
ik_dkms?18:12
kurumimalguém pode me dizer o cmd p atualizar sistema!!!18:12
jhutchins_wkik_: Helps w/ rebuilding propietary modules when you upgrade kernels.18:12
jhutchins_wkik_: May also help w/ initial install.18:12
Pici!br | kurumim18:12
ubottukurumim: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:12
ik_ok. if that helps me :D18:12
RiotingPacifistik_: ati has fairly good OSS drivers though, not quite good enough for compiz in hardy (but aparently the SVN version is even faster) NVIDA has good but closed sourced drivers, intel dont make good graphics chips (well not up to ati/nvidia anyway18:13
msicambiar a kubuntu spañol18:14
RiotingPacifist!es18:14
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:14
msigracias18:14
ik_lol &&18:14
ik_^618:14
RiotingPacifistde nada18:14
* ik_ hammers on shift...18:15
ik_^^18:15
jhutchins_wk!find docsis18:15
ubottuFile docsis found in torrus-common, wireshark-common18:15
jhutchins_wk!info torrus18:15
ubottuPackage torrus does not exist in hardy18:15
jhutchins_wk!info torrus-common18:15
ubottutorrus-common (source: torrus): Universal front-end for Round-Robin Databases (common files). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.5-2 (hardy), package size 481 kB, installed size 3036 kB18:15
lg188hello18:16
lg188how set the volume to it's limit's ?18:16
vipexcan i have the finnish irc channel link again?18:16
RiotingPacifist!fi18:17
ubottuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi18:17
RiotingPacifistis that finish?18:17
vipexyh18:17
lg188!ja18:17
ubottu日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい18:17
vipexty18:17
flaccidlg188: kmix18:17
lg188did that18:18
lg188i did all know to me18:18
lg188also in app18:18
malik_hi all,18:18
lg188hi18:19
malik_please any one help me installing nvidia drivers for Geforce 7200 GS on kubuntu 8.0418:19
softnetcual es el canal de ubuntu es18:24
_CrashMaster_!es | softnet18:24
ubottusoftnet: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:24
jhutchins_wk!nvidia | malik18:24
ubottumalik: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:24
jhutchins_wkDon't know if that's current.18:24
lg188!kmix18:26
ubottukmix is KDE's soundcard mixer program. Though small, it is full-featured. The program should give controls for each of your soundcards. KMix supports several platforms and sound drivers. Go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kmix for complete information.18:26
msiespañol please18:27
Pici!es | msi18:27
ubottumsi: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:27
msigracias18:27
zhogHello ladies and gentlemen18:28
twobitworkwhat version of x.org does kubuntu KDE4 use?18:29
zhogIt seems Kubuntu 8.04 install DVD has some problems booting completely, anyone can help ?18:29
RiotingPacifistsame as kde3 which is to say 1:7.3+10ubuntu10 which i think means 7.318:31
vipex----------------------------------------------------------------------------------18:32
vipexops18:32
sexwaxhi, I need to resize and erase some partition, wich application should I use?18:37
zhogWhy ubuntu boots only with wubi on my FAT32 partition but fails to boot from the livecd (i get busybox)?18:38
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flaccid!partition | sexwax18:38
ubottusexwax: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter18:38
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rickestsexwax: fdisk, fsdisk, or GParted LiveCD to do it w/ a GUI18:38
rickestsexwax: er, middle one was supposed to be sfdisk18:39
sexwaxwow tnx people :D18:39
RiotingPacifistzhog: check the cd for defects18:39
twobitworksexwax: use the gparted CD because its smart about resizing partitions with i.e. windows filesystems on them18:39
lg188what is the offtopic channel ?18:40
zhogthank you RP but then why i got zero problems with wubi ? i get the same joke with buth an ubuntu cd and kubuntu DVD18:40
lg188!offtopic18:40
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:40
flaccidlg188: its on topic18:40
flaccidoh my apologies lg188 see you in there then18:41
zhogbut i'll check the isos anyway, what program should i use ? K3b is buggy on my kubuntu 6.1018:41
zhogduh ! i can check the DVD on startup !18:42
twobitworkzhog: you can also md5sum them18:43
zhogyes, i know but i don't know the proggie to use ;-)18:43
twobitworkmd5sum?18:43
zhogterminal mamd5sum is uppose :-D18:44
twobitworkas in "md5sum /dev/cdrom" in a terminal :)18:44
zhogfound ! thank you :-)18:44
jim88hi all .. can anyone tell me how to change the BUM for Kubuntu?  When I uncheck Gnome under services it stops auto booting18:48
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jim88can anyone tell me how to change my BUM to boot KDE and not GNOME?  I am using gutsy18:52
Picijim88: You want the kdm to come up instead of gdm?18:52
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jim88yes at my sign in window18:52
Picijim88: sudo dpgk-reconfigure gdm18:52
Picier, dpkg-reconfigure gdm18:53
geniibootup manager <> login manager18:53
jim88ok, so I have 2 choices of doing it?18:54
Picijim88: No, just the second one where I spelled the command properly.18:54
geniiIf kubuntu-desktop or kdm are not installed the sudo dkpg-reconfigure gdm won't give you option of kdm18:54
jim88it boots into kde but the sign in is gnome18:55
flaccid sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm should do the trick18:55
jim88ok, let me try it brb18:56
PiciI assumed that he already had kdm and gdm installed already18:57
zhogRaaah !19:01
zhogthe .iso is ok but the burned DVD has a different md5sum !19:01
famillesalu19:01
zhogWhat am i supposed to do !, re-burn again !!? But i burned at the slowest speed (4X)19:02
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zhogIs there a trick to avoid errors when burning a DVD ? or maybe installing from the kubuntu .iso ?19:04
jim88thank you all it worked19:04
jussi01!install | zhog19:05
ubottuzhog: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:05
jussi01!usb | zhog19:05
ubottuzhog: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:05
zhogThank you19:06
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B4S3Mi cant upgrade from 8.04 CD ... what can i do ?19:13
flaccidthrow it out the window!19:13
twobitworkmicrowave it19:14
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zhogB4s3M: you've got a sytem older than 7.10 ?19:18
B4S3Mwhy i check for issue using cat /etc/issue i print ubuntu 7.1019:19
B4S3Mit prints*19:19
B4S3Mbut somehow am using KDE right now19:20
zhogThen you should be able to upgrade but since i am quite a n00b, i won't give potentially dangerous technical advice19:20
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* genii makes more coffee19:38
* compilerwriter stands ready with whiskey to add to the coffee19:40
geniicompilerwriter: :)19:41
[Relic]Hello :)19:41
ixenakishello :-)))19:41
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* compilerwriter adds whiskey to genii's coffee19:46
llutzcaffeine is unhealthy19:47
geniicompilerwriter: I'll have to hide that one, I'm still at work here19:47
geniillutz: Probably :)19:48
* compilerwriter laughs heartily19:48
bassemguys ... how can i update to Kubntu 8.04 from alternate CD ?19:48
[Relic]anyway to force the system tray to stack icons?19:49
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geniibassem: Botom of this page has instructions http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading19:52
bassemgenii: i tried kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ... but it does nothing19:55
bassemand whn i try kdesu " /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ... it prints an error " no such command"19:55
geniibassem: Try opening up /media/cdrom     or so and looking for the file19:56
bassemcdromupgrade ?19:57
geniiYup19:57
bassemcudnt find it ?19:58
bassemcudnt find it* :S19:58
zhogback20:00
zhoghmm.. K3B told me the DVD i just burned was ok but md5sum disagrees !20:00
zhog(i am still trying to install kubuntu form the DVd iso, which is a good one )20:01
flaccidzhog: hardy livecd or hardy dvd20:02
FoxIIITrying to set up my wireless card, the instructions I followed told me to type: sudo ndiswrapper -i BLKWGDv7.sys but it says that it can only be done with an INF file. Obviously on trying this I am shown an error. What could I be doing wrong?20:02
zhogi tried to boot from buth the gnome CD or KDE DVD and failed to go beyond busybox20:02
zhogand a wubi installation went just fine20:03
zhogbut boots slowly, of course20:03
djdarkmanhello, my girlfriend bought a laptop, her webcam didn`t work, the vedor`s response was depressing but, it found a solution how should I file a but/request about it?20:13
=== x_ is now known as lessie
bassemgenii: u still here ?20:16
genii At the moment yes. But back and forth to work20:16
geniibassem: Are there any contents at all in the /media/cdrom directory (or equivelent)20:17
geniieg: Is the cd meing even mounted there20:19
geniimeing->being20:19
pietrekWitam20:22
genii!pl20:22
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl20:22
geniiFoxIII: I'm not seeing any text of yours here20:23
FoxIIIgenii, really? I'll send again.20:24
lg188idd FoxIII20:24
JoshOvkiFoxIII: thre you are20:24
CostaRicanQuakergenii: i got an old kubuntu 5.10 cd, after all my isos came out bad, so i started installing and made a partition so my discs are half and half, thing is, i stopped installing hwen it said that it was going to format both the created partition and the windows one with all its files, so i stopped as i didn't want it to erase all my stuff, i backed up some of the files i have on windows20:24
lg188i ghave som life sings20:24
FoxIIITrying to set up my wireless card, the instructions I followed told me to type: sudo ndiswrapper -i BLKWGDv7.sys but it says that it can only be done with an INF file. Obviously on trying this I am shown an error. What could I be doing wrong?20:24
CostaRicanQuakerbut i still don't know how to avoid erasing and still install20:24
geniiFoxIII: Find the inf file for an XP install to use with it. Likely from the cd with the device or else manufacturer website20:25
FoxIIIgenii, I did try it with the inf file, but it complains about an incorrect location on line 192.20:25
geniiFoxIII: Is this some broadcom? You may need the fwcutter stuff as well20:26
FoxIIIgenii, It's a belkin card20:26
ik_what was the console command for listing all tasks again? ( i forgot >.<)20:27
geniiFoxIII: No offhand idea then, although you are right it should use a INF and not SYS file in that command20:27
geniiik_: ps ax     or:  top20:27
ik_ow, right, thx20:27
FoxIIIgenii, Thanks. I'll look in the inf file and see if I can see what the problem is.20:27
kirkthey guys, how do i install JDK in 7.10 ?20:28
Dekanssudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk20:30
kirktthanks20:31
eagles0513875hey guys20:31
BluesKajkirkt, make sure to look for the agreement and agree, or it won't install20:31
kirkthuh?20:31
BluesKajkirkt, if you use the detailed look in adept ..it''l be obvious in apt , cuz the install will stall20:32
kirkti just did apt-get though20:33
kirktits downloading so far20:33
ikoniadjdarkman: thanks for storming out of ubuntu in a strop.20:35
msihola buenas tardes20:35
* djdarkman googles for the word "strop"20:36
eagles0513875!es | msi20:36
ubottumsi: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:36
ikoniadjdarkman: it means a sulk20:36
msiokis20:36
eagles0513875is anyone having issues with kopete and msn20:36
Gustinas in it won't connect?20:37
eagles0513875ya20:37
Gustinyup20:37
eagles0513875Gustin: have u tried pidgin20:37
eagles0513875*you20:37
GustinI am just using pidgin20:37
Gustinheh20:38
djdarkmanikonia: just last words, but ban me if you wish20:38
Gustinit seems to be working20:38
eagles0513875Gustin: im using kopete20:38
eagles0513875i am goign to see if a reboot will fix anything20:38
eagles0513875im even having amarok issues20:38
Gustinkopete is not working20:38
Gustinpidgin is20:38
Gustinfor me at least20:38
GustinI have not really looked into the problem yet20:39
ikoniadjdarkman: I've got zero authority to ban you, nor would I want to, but coming into an ubuntu channel and complaining that unstable drivers that are early are not in the kernel is of no value, and when you have it expalined to you sulking and running off is not really the best way to have a good reputation20:39
eagles0513875Gustin: have any updated pkgs been released yet20:39
Gustinnone that I can see20:40
GustinI don't really track the dev/rc stuff anymore20:40
eagles0513875Gustin: nothing im going to reboot and ill let you know if it fixes it20:40
Gustinrebooting did nothing for me20:41
Gustinand it is broken on two machines20:41
eagles0513875lol20:41
eagles0513875Gustin: did you file a bug report20:41
eagles0513875if you did i can confirm your bug report20:41
Gustinat first I thought it was a 7.10 problem (my desktop at home), but my 8.04 laptop does not connect either20:41
GustinI have not filled one out yet20:42
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eagles0513875im on 8.0420:42
eagles0513875Gustin: if you file one i will confirm it for you20:42
eagles0513875Gustin: just provide me a link20:43
djdarkmanikonia: I don`t need/want good reputation, I just tried to help, but to no avail, so I said what I wanted to, I tried, and I can`t do more, having the option to use unstable drivers, and be warned is not to the same as not having them at all, that`s all, I don`t realy care if it would work in ubuntu or the vanilla kernel, I just wanted to help out the people with this hardware20:44
eagles0513875Gustin: ill be right back amarok isnt working as well20:45
ikoniadjdarkman: your missing the point - ubuntu doesnt control the kernel, so saying "ubuntu should include this" is pointless, the kernel is nothing to do with ubuntu20:45
Gustindjdarkman: lemme guess, wifi driver issues20:47
djdarkmanikonia: nvidia drivers aren`t included in the kernel nor does ati, and friends, if I would be wrong there wouldn`t be fwcutter and other projects out there, than neighter restricted drivers manager wouldn`t exists20:47
ikoniadjdarkman: its not a restricte binary driver20:47
djdarkmanGustin: no, webcam driver20:47
ikoniadjdarkman: it's an open source driver thats not fit for use20:47
ikoniadjdarkman: hence why it's not in the kernel20:48
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djdarkmanikonia: is a closed source driver more fit to be sused than an early open source one? or maybe an early closed source one?20:48
Coggxanyone here got a phillips SPC camera?20:48
Gustinubuntu has a pretty recent kernel as it is, asking for a more bleeding edge one is asking for trouble20:48
ikoniadjdarkman: who said anything about being sued ?20:48
ikoniadjdarkman: again - I don't think your understanding20:49
ikoniadjdarkman: however this is not an ubuntu issue so I suggest is't dropped from this channel and other ubuntu ones20:49
djdarkmanikonia: *used20:49
eagles0513875Gustin: just rebooted its working now20:49
GustinI'll try later, though it has been having issues on and off for a week20:49
Coggxanyone here use a MTMini tpye multi touch setup?20:49
ikoniadjdarkman: yes, a closed source driver that works is more suitable than an unstable open source one, contact the people who maintain the unstable driver and help them make it stable20:49
GustinI don't want to have to shut down my VMs and power them up20:50
djdarkmanikonia: #define stable20:50
Coggxi have touchlib compiled, and osc20:50
eagles0513875Gustin: seems like today i have had the issue20:50
ikoniadjdarkman: works against supported dependencies20:50
eagles0513875Gustin: you know you can pause them20:50
Gustinyes, but it takes a while to unpause20:50
djdarkmanikonia: I complied it on hardy and it works20:50
ikoniadjdarkman: one man - well done20:50
Gustinalmost as long as a normal boot20:50
ikoniadjdarkman: thats not "stable or supported", as I said take it up with the maintainers - not ubuntu20:51
Gustinbesides I am at work on my laptop, not the speedies hard drive :)20:51
djdarkmanikonia: how do you expect others to do so if they don`t even know that it exists? :)20:51
ikoniadjdarkman: I don't - I expect for the package maintainers to make it main stream20:51
Gustindjdarkman: personal responisibilty?20:51
ikoniaGustin: exactly20:52
ikoniaagain though, I suggest this is dropped - this is not an ubuntu issue20:52
ikoniaits nothing to do with any ubuntu release20:52
Gustinthere are lots of things I would love to get working today, like my crappy boradcom wifi card20:52
Gustinerm broadcom20:52
djdarkmanGustin: have that on my own laptop20:53
eagles0513875Gustin: talk to me dude i have a broadcom20:53
Gustinther kernel driver does not work still20:53
eagles0513875Gustin: works outa box for me just about20:53
Gustineven the latest 2.6.2520:53
djdarkmanand got congratulated for making a site and putting a correct howto there20:53
eagles0513875Gustin: do lspci and tell me what exact model it is20:53
djdarkmanbecause others had the same issue20:53
GustinBCM94311MCG20:53
djdarkmanbut in hardy all was fixed20:53
GustinI have been following it for the 1.5 years I have had this laptop20:54
eagles0513875Gustin: ok i have any older 4306 and with the restricted drivers manager and it finds it not sure about your card20:54
Gustinndiswrapper works, but not the native b43 driver20:54
djdarkmanGustin: me too, I was the happiest man, when I got my card working back hten with ndiswrapper20:54
Gustinby native I mean upstream kernel.org integrated driver20:54
eagles0513875Gustin: when you run dmesg is there a link that comes in that message20:54
Gustinndiswrapper feels like surrender to me :)20:54
eagles0513875Gustin: try this site and see if your card is supported yet20:55
eagles0513875Gustin: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/20:55
Gustinespecially since I replaced the NIC in my eeepc and it works out of the box with ubuntu20:55
eagles0513875Gustin: nice u got an eee and running kubuntu20:55
Gustinit works with ndiswrapper20:55
Gustinmy broadcomm that is20:55
diego_hola20:56
diego_heyas20:56
diego_I need some help20:56
diego_to install my webcam20:56
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diego_can anyone help me?20:56
djdarkmanyeah but running a binary blob that was compiled for windows under linux is just as evil as running an "unstable" open source driver20:56
eagles0513875diego_: explain ur issue in detail and see if anyone can help ya20:56
eagles0513875mines working fine there r some bugs in the network manager in regards to wifi and connecting to networks but it works for me20:57
diego_basically I run cheese and it appears as if I dont have webcam installed20:57
diego_I have a Sony VAIO laptop20:57
diego_with webcam included20:57
diego_works in Vista.... but doesnt want to work in Ubuntu20:57
IroHi all i got a quick question: what to add to the boot parameters when it freezes during livecd boot ?20:58
FoxIIIgenii, woo! It's nearly setup! It's picking up the network correctly and the strength of the signal, but when I try putting in the password, it says unable to connect. Here's the stage I've got to so far: http://www.thumoo.com/images/snapshot1.png20:58
djdarkmandiego_: try lsusb, and google for the device ID20:58
diego_I did that20:59
djdarkmanand nothing diego_?21:01
diego_yeah21:01
diego_found lots21:01
diego_ID 05ca:183b Ricoh Co., Ltd21:01
diego_but followed the instructions and nothing....21:01
eagles0513875any kernel customizers in here21:02
diego_I'll try now with any of the other results in Google21:02
djdarkmandiego_: you tried this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=ffX&q=05ca%3A183b+linux&btnG=Search21:03
djdarkman?>21:03
FoxIIIdiego_, have you looked in the ubuntu hardware list?21:03
diego_nope21:04
Gustineagles0513875: I build my own kernels... usually21:05
pixel386how do I change power management settings in kubuntu?  I just installed KDE (the kubuntu-desktop package), can't find something similar to the gnome tool21:05
diego_trying now21:05
pixel386I'd primarily just like to make sure that it recognizes the lid getting closed and then suspends21:05
Gustinright click on the battery21:05
diego_trying now djdarkman21:05
eagles0513875Gustin: your nick registered21:05
pixel386the power management in the battery is only temporary/instant stuff21:05
Gustinmaybe not21:05
djdarkmandiego_: i hope you find a solution, if you do, post it on the ubuntu wiki, I will do the same, have no other options21:06
eagles0513875!register | Gustin21:07
ubottuGustin: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.21:07
xflshey guy, i have a problem viewing web pages which contain flash baners/videos21:08
xflsthe cpu usage is over 50% when viewing 1-2 pages21:09
eagles0513875Gustin: let me know when u have signed in21:09
andresalgun latino acá ??21:09
xflsand..that's not depending on the browser firefox/opera/konqueror21:09
eagles0513875!es | andres21:10
ubottuandres: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:10
eagles0513875andres: que linuga tu hablas mi amigo21:10
andresespanish21:10
andresspanish21:10
andreslatino carnal21:10
eagles0513875andres: see channel above21:10
xflsthat's on kubuntu 8.04 and lates versions of the browsers and adobe flash plugin..can someone help me?21:11
eagles0513875!es | andres21:11
ubottuandres: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:11
andresok21:11
eagles0513875Gustin: did u get my pm dude21:11
Gustineagles0513875: apparently my name is already registered21:11
diego_ok, thanks djdarkman21:12
FoxIIIWoo! Nearly setup my wireless card! It's picking up the network correctly and the strength of the signal, but when I try putting in the password, it says unable to connect. Here's the stage I've got to so far: http://www.thumoo.com/images/snapshot1.png Anyone have any ideas what I need to do now? TIA21:17
andresalgun otro hispano por aca ??21:18
diego_when I try to use the "sudo make" command21:19
diego_it tells me this21:19
diego_make[2]: *** [/home/diego/Desktop/r5u870/r5u870_md.o] Error 121:19
diego_make[1]: *** [_module_/home/diego/Desktop/r5u870] Error 221:19
diego_make[1]: se sale del directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic'21:19
diego_make: *** [all] Error 221:19
eagles0513875!pastebin21:19
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:19
xflssome suggestions about my problem?21:19
eagles0513875!pastebin | diego_21:19
ubottudiego_: please see above21:19
eagles0513875!patience | xfls21:19
ubottuxfls: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:19
diego_k21:19
diego_sorry21:19
FoxIII!es21:19
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:19
andresalgun latino por acá ??21:21
andresde prefenrencia mujer21:21
jussi01andres: english only in here please21:21
andresfoock you jussi0121:22
andresim speke spanish  putos gringos21:22
psycoAnyone know how to fix the black menus when KDE and Baghira mix?21:22
eagles0513875!virtualbox | Gustin21:23
ubottuGustin: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox21:23
andreswww.masfresa.com21:37
andreswww.masfresa.com21:38
andresvisit www.masfresa.com21:38
andreshi !! visit www.masfresa.com21:39
jtismejussi01, not knowing all the rules i gather it is outside the scope of this channel to advertise a web site when not answering a question?21:43
RoeyHi, why do I get this weird error when mounting my SD card??  http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/software/345276-unable-mount-removable-media-hal-storage-removable-mount.html  <-- is there a fix for this?21:43
jussi01!guidelines | jtisme21:45
ubottujtisme: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:45
jtismejussi01, thanks21:45
jussi01jtisme: yw21:47
Guest58586can i get a default source.list for 8.04?21:47
Guest58586plz?21:49
szakulecfor the users of S/MIME here, is thawte the best choice for a certificate?21:53
alanxgood day people22:00
david_hey man i need some help22:00
oldblueboxI need help as well...22:00
msipor favor pa cambiar a español22:00
david_what do you need22:00
oldblueboxI'm getting an error when i'm trying to install kubuntu on my laptop22:01
david_describe it22:01
oldblueboxI burned the .iso on a cd, when I install it, about 45% into the installation it says:22:01
oldblueboxerror, input output, cannot write22:01
oldblueboxthis may be due to a problem with the hard disk, cd etc.22:02
david_are you installing it on a partition22:02
msipara cambiar a kubuntu español22:02
bassemguys ... how can i update to Kubntu 8.04 from alternate CD ?22:02
alanxmsi, tranquilo22:02
oldblueboxit locked up the first time at 45%, then again at 35%, then again at 48%22:02
alanxdurante la instalacion puedes elegir el idioma22:03
oldblueboxDavid: im trying just a full install, it gives me 3 options22:03
david_is it a partition22:03
david_that you are installingit on22:03
oldblueboxi'm not really sure what that means, i'm kinda new to this, i'm sorry22:03
oldblueboxit asks if I want to do 50% ubuntu and 50%kubuntu, then a full install, then a manual instal22:03
oldblueboxinstall*22:03
oldblueboxI chose the full install22:04
oldblueboxor the second option.22:04
oldbluebox-_-22:04
jtisme!sp |msi22:05
ubottuFactoid sp not found22:05
msies la tercera vez que instalo Kubuntu,, y caundo actulizo o instalo reinicio y ya..  error 15 : file no found...22:05
msique puede estar pasando..?22:06
alanx<msi> mi recomendacion es que instales el kubuntu22:06
alanxsin estar conectado al internet22:06
msiokis22:07
alanxluego de haber instalado el kubuntu lo puedes actualizar22:07
jtisme!spanish |msi22:07
ubottumsi: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.22:07
msigracias22:07
jtismemsi denada22:07
alanx<jtisme>, what are you trying to say?22:08
alanxdo you know spanish?22:08
jtismealanx very little22:08
alanx<jtisme> where are you right now?22:09
jtismealanx in woodstock, ga  usa22:09
jussi01!tab | alanx22:09
ubottualanx: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:09
alanxok, thanks22:10
jussi01:)22:10
alanxanybody want some class of spanish?22:11
alanxjust for get fun here22:12
alanxjust a little time22:12
alanxno one?22:14
jtismealanx nice of you to offer but i believe that is outside of the channel rules22:15
jussi01alanx: not really the place for it - try #kubuntu-offtopic :)22:15
* jussi01 hugs jtisme22:16
jtismejussi01, i read every single word of the IRC guidlines you sent me. i guess i retained some of it22:16
jtisme:)22:16
jussi01jtisme: its nice that someone is following the rules :)22:17
bipolarCan someone please remind me where KDE3 stores it's global desktop icons? I've set these up before but can't for the life of me remember where they go.22:19
Gustin"/usr/share/icons"?22:20
bipolarGustin: thats not it... what I mean is icons that show up on every users desktop.22:21
bipolar.desktop files22:21
Gustinahh22:22
alanxhere I just look how everybody leaves22:25
psycoWHat version of KDE is hardy (not 4)22:29
psyco3.2+ ??22:29
bipolarpsyco: 3.5.922:30
psycoAhh thank you.22:31
psycoAnyone know how to fix the black menus in Baghira?22:31
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mapomaposalve a tutti22:35
devilHI22:43
philosopher... people, i have one question:22:45
philosopheri've just installed Kubuntu 8.04 on other PC, which not connected to internet. i need to download ukrainian locale package and Wine. where i can get it?22:46
wimpiesHow can I tell kaffeine to automatically select a certain subtitle language ?22:49
=== effie is now known as effie_jayx
bipolarIs anyone using koisktool on hardy?23:00
bipolarit seems to be pretty badly broken here.23:00
bipolarWhen I try to setup desktop icons, my desktop becomes set to "/"23:01
Tokeiitogood evening. i have problem with sound. when i'm trying to launch Amarok, i'm getting xine error, that resurces is busy. how to solve that without restarting PC?23:01
milaksHi. Can I use Wubi installer with one existing kubuntu install image on hard drive, to install kubuntu on my former (ext3) Linux partitions?23:02
milakswhich do exist23:02
=== francinldo is now known as Cedro_Ce
jeroen__Hi23:14
jeroen__I've got a problem with the screen resolution from my Ubuntu23:14
jeroen__I have this computer at a 1024x.. screen but I can only choose 640x48023:15
philosopherjeroen__, you probably are using live cd...23:17
philosopherjeroen__ in Live CD mode i suppose there is no better resolution support23:18
enterusernamewhen was the last time libdvdcss was upadteD?23:18
enterusernameI can't play any new dvds on my linux box :(23:18
enterusernameanyone have suggestions?23:18
jeroen__ I installed it, then I had the good resolution, I installed all my updates, reboot, and now I have this resolution23:20
rickestenterusername: you mean libdvdcss2?23:20
enterusernameumm yes :)23:20
enterusernameIt doesnt appaer to be working with new cd's23:21
enterusernamewhere do i get the latest version ? Lst one i see is 2005 on videolan23:21
rickestenterusername: do you get a specific error?23:21
enterusernameno.. i dont :( I tried SVN on videolan and i got segfault23:21
enterusernameIs there a repository I can get it from?23:21
enterusernamerickest: should all dvds work?23:22
rickestenterusername: the one in *buntu's Medibuntu respository works fine for me23:22
philosopheranyone: can you download a llocale for me and send me that lang pack?23:22
rickestenterusername: afaik23:22
enterusernameok.. ill look23:22
enterusernamesigh23:27
enterusernameIt's saying its not installed when it is :S23:27
enterusernameill try again later :)23:28
darkdelusionsWhat?23:32
askandhaha is it try that kde4 doesnt allow icons to have more then five characters?23:46
psycoIs there a way to change the size of the systray icons???23:50

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