[00:00] <Odd-rationale> typedestereo: hmm. try kdesu instead...
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> or double-check for typo... ;)
[00:01] <vipex> ---im tryed 5hours to get java work....:O
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> vipex: with konqueror? or firefox?
[00:02] <vipex> Odd-rationale:konqueror
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> vipex: kde3?
[00:03] <vipex> Odd-rationale: ?
[00:04] <rav> hello. i've had no luck configuring a broadcom 4318 wifi card, both with ndiswrapper and b43 in kubuntu 8.04. Anyone can give me any pointers?
[00:04] <vipex> im not sure odd rationale
[00:04] <darkdelusions> vipex: did you look at the link I refered you to?
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> vipex: what version of kubuntu? did you install the kde3 version or the kde4?
[00:05] <ubuntu> hi im on a live cd as gnome wont load correctly..  how may i change my window manager back to kde (harddisk) from a live cd??
[00:05] <kumamoto> mefisto__: learn new thing every day
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> vipex: well, if you don't know, then it is probably kde3... :)
[00:05] <vipex> i thnik too:P
[00:06] <vipex> Odd rationale:its kde3.
[00:06] <rav> ubuntu: you can try switching to a console after boot, with Ctrl+Alt+F1. then use aptitude to install kdm and remove gnome
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> vipex: i have had trouble with java in konq as well. Try going to settings --> configure konq and in the java settings, check the enable KIO checkbox. but even then, it didn't work 100%...
[00:08] <bernardo_> hola
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> !es | bernardo_
[00:08] <bernardo_> alguien sabe como agregar freenode_
[00:09] <ubuntu> rav: problem is i cant access a text terminal
[00:10] <ubuntu> rav: i have kde installed i just need to change the default manager back to kde    dpkg-reconfigure gdm will do that but i cant get to a txt terminal hence being here from a live cd
[00:10] <flaccid> you can use a tty
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: did you try booting into recover mode?
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> *recovery
[00:11] <ubuntu> no ill try that  fialing that i could change the driver in my xorg config it seems the nvidia driver has problems
[00:13] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale:  thanks for the heads up its jogged my memory..  how may i go about restoring gnome then?  i removed all .gconf and .gnome from home folder and removed gnome and then re installed using apt but this gave me the same problems
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> !java | vipex
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: you are trying to restore gnome? or replace it with kde?
[00:15] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale:  ill replace with kde first.. i can do that (to get off of the live cd im currently in)  the problem is im not having any luck restoring gnome
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> vipex: or install kubuntu-restricted-extras. i believe it pulls thejava runtime package with it as well..
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: what is wrong with gnome?
[00:16] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale: it wont load at all
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: does gdm load?
[00:16] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale: no
[00:16] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale: it hangs at the login screen
[00:17] <Zettro> Hmmmm, what do i have to do to installa ubuntu? everytime i try to install it, it says something about a I/0 error on sd0 and fr0 or something
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: so gdm loads but hangs?
[00:17] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale: sorry yes ok  it attempts to do so but doesnt reach the login screen
[00:18] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: can you get to a terminal via ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[00:18] <flaccid> Zettro: thats usually hardware fault
[00:18] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale: no
[00:18] <flaccid> ubuntu: which driver are you using in xorg?
[00:19] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: so you are suspecting a X problem or really a gnome problem?
[00:19] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale: nvidia.. i will change this so i may access a terminal and replace with kdm ..  but after i have done this i would like to replace gnome again but the ways ive suggested havent worked
[00:20] <vipex> so how u guys downloaded java to kubuntu:O!?!?!
[00:20] <flaccid> there are bugs around the vid drivers atm causing no tty access
[00:20] <engineer> vipex still here?
[00:20] <ubuntu> Odd-rationale:  ill restore kdm now so i cna get off the live cd and then rejoin the channel as "ads"
[00:21] <mefisto__> vipex: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[00:21] <kumamoto> hells and has been asking the same question ever since
[00:21] <vipex> Engineer:yh ...got problems with the java
[00:21] <engineer> vipex what about the command i gave you, didn't it work?
[00:21] <kumamoto> he knows the answer but doesn't actually say what the issue is
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> vipex: or install kubuntu-restricted-extras. i believe it pulls thejava runtime package with it as well..
[00:21] <vipex> It worked engineer but..i dont got java on kubuntu.
[00:22] <engineer> vipex type: java -version
[00:22] <vipex> it didnt find the files
[00:22] <engineer> it didn't
[00:22] <engineer> have you enabled multiverse?
[00:22] <engineer> !multiverse
[00:23] <vipex> I dont have multiverse
[00:24] <engineer> enable it
[00:24] <vipex> how...
[00:24] <vipex> or i meant where.
[00:24] <vipex> where i enable it
[00:25] <engineer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[00:25] <mefisto__> vipex: you can do it from Adept
[00:26] <vipex> mefisto wheres the adept?
[00:26] <mefisto__> vipex: K menu, System, Adept Manager
[00:27] <anubis> I would like to keep kde's and gnome's session management apart. Right now, that is not the way it is. Can this be done, or has the freedesktop standard ruined this?
[00:27] <vipex> ohh ty
[00:27] <jorge__> hola alguein sabe como instalar el java desde consola??? es que estoy en el acuerdo de licencia y no se como aceptarlo   uso kubuntu
[00:27] <engineer> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[00:27] <mefisto__> vipex: then from the Adept menu, Manage Repositories
[00:28] <jorge__> im, in the licese agreement  i cant acept
[00:29] <rav> does anyone use b43 and wpasupplicant?
[00:29] <jorge__> how to accept this license agreement?
[00:30] <mefisto__> jorge__: tab key?
[00:30] <engineer> space
[00:30] <vipex> wohooo thx to all who helped me:P
[00:30] <crimsun_> rav: I do.
[00:30] <rav> crimsun_: which driver do you use to start wpasupplicant?
[00:30] <jorge__> hey hey hey thanks very much brother   greeting for Bogotá  long live linux
[00:31] <ads_> Odd-rationale: hi again.. do you know how i may completly remove gnome so that i may attempt to restore it.. it appears to be broken after i comiled gstreamer,glib,farsight
[00:31] <crimsun_> rav: "driver"?  I use interfaces(5).
[00:31] <ads_>  compiled*
[00:32] <rav> crimsun_:  you don't start wpasupplicant from the console?
[00:32] <CrocoJet> whats best way to install nvidia driver for kubuntu hardy (KDE 3.5.9) ?
[00:32] <flaccid> should not need to anything manual like wpasupplicant..
[00:32] <flaccid> CrocoJet: kdesudo jockey-kde
[00:33] <rav> flaccid: the b43 module detects the card, but it doesn't scan anything or connect
[00:34] <rav> flaccid: 'sudo iwlist scan
[00:34] <rav> flaccid: 'sudo iwlist scan' gives me no results
[00:34] <crimsun_> rav: no.
[00:35] <crimsun_> rav: I presume you've placed the firmware files in the correct place?
[00:35] <CrocoJet> flaccid: thanks .. let me try
[00:35] <rav> crimsun_: i used the b43-firmware package that the WifiDocs suggest
[00:36] <crimsun_> rav: are you sure that the driver even supports your hardware?
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> ads_: one moment...
[00:36] <crimsun_> rav: it's a non-issue for me; I have a BCM94311MCG rev 1
[00:36] <rav> crimsun_: it's a broadcom 4318
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> ads_: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[00:37] <flaccid> rav: all i can suggest is to try all the guides on the wiki like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM43xx_(all,_ndiswrapper/firmware) and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM43xx_(all,_ndiswrapper/firmware)
[00:37] <flaccid> i mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[00:37] <flaccid> oh 4318
[00:38] <flaccid> rav: also this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5bAirForce_One_54g%5d?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[00:39] <rav> flaccid: i've tried all the methods there, and none work. i've used ndiswrapper with this card, but it was before the ssb kernel module was out. since then, ndiswrapper doesn't work for broadcoms. what's interesting is that i use ndiswrapper on my laptop with an atheros card
[00:39] <crimsun_> rav: but which revision of the Broadcom firmware?
[00:39] <rav> crimsun_: rev 2
[00:39] <crimsun_> rav: no, the Broadcom firmware
[00:39] <crimsun_> not your hardware revision
[00:39] <ads_> Odd-rationale:  ok thanks.. this unfortunately is the way i installed ubuntustudio-desktop   and consequently i used the same method to remove  .. and after deleting .gconf* and .gnome* files (and apt-get remove ubuntu gdm..) and then installing again with apt-get install ..  this does not repair gnome something is staying
[00:40] <flaccid> rav: we do not know what the problem so so can't assume yet really
[00:40] <flaccid> let me get a coffee and i'll put the thinking cap on
[00:42] <flaccid> rav: can you just paste us the exact entry from lscpi
[00:42] <Agent_bob> typo
[00:42] <Agent_bob> lspci
[00:43] <Odd-rationale> pastebin
[00:43] <rav> crimsun_: i have b43-firmware 1.0-0 from ubuntu.cafuego.net
[00:45] <RiotingPacifist> under gutsy i could have a madwifi connected and monitoring at the same time, is this possible with hardy?
[00:45] <flaccid> lspci, rav?
[00:45] <rav> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22237/
[00:45] <darthanubis> crimsun_: you donn't use kdeeee4 huh?
[00:46] <crimsun_> darthanubis: huh?
[00:46] <darthanubis> sorry keybaord must be going
[00:46] <darthanubis> crimsun_: you don't use KDE4?
[00:46] <crimsun_> rav: I mean, do you use 4.80.53.0 or 4.150.10.5?
[00:47] <crimsun_> darthanubis: I use quite a few desktop environments for testing
[00:47] <rav> crimsun_: i don't know, since i didn't use b43-fwcutter
[00:47] <darthanubis> crimsun_: the kde4 channel could use some help:/
[00:47] <darthanubis> I just started using it today
[00:47] <flaccid> rav: ok i will look into this a bit more. i assume you should have at least one AP appear in that list?
[00:48] <flaccid> lol
[00:48] <darthanubis> I would like to keep kde's and gnome's session management apart. Right now, that is not the way it is. Can this be done, or has the freedesktop standard ruined this?
[00:48] <flaccid> we are doing well in that channel :)
[00:48] <rav> flaccid: do you mean access point?
[00:48] <flaccid> yep rav
[00:49] <rav> flaccid: i'm on my laptop, with the one with the bcm4318 next to me
[00:49] <flaccid> but you should have at list 1 ap show up in the scan right rav?
[00:50] <flaccid> rav, and you have tried both native and ndiswrapper?
[00:51] <rav> flaccid: on the broadcom, nothing gets scanned, even sitting next to the router. i've tried both, with the same result. the only difference was that b43 lights up the wifi led
[00:51] <flaccid> rav: but your dmesg and system logs don't indicate errors right, it seems to work fine? its like your wireless reception is turned off soft or hard..
[00:52] <Agent_bob> i have an "ignorant" question, can you setup wireless networking with only one peace of hardware?      i mean get it ready for where a network actually is, before you take it there?
[00:53] <flaccid> Agent_bob: you could probably connect to other wireless network in knetworkmanager and that might save the entry despite not connecting, not sure. at least i don't know of a gui way
[00:53] <RiotingPacifist> Agent_bob: yes but its easier to setup once your there
[00:53] <rav> flaccid: i just loaded b43, and the led is on. i have wlan0 in ifconfig
[00:53] <darkdelusions> Agent_bob: You should beable to as long as you know the SSID and Encryption password
[00:54] <rav> flaccid: i just did 'sudo iwlist scan' and it found my wlan
[00:55] <Agent_bob> darkdelusions that i can get.    RiotingPacifist & flaccid ty.  on all input.
[00:56] <flaccid> rav: so it loaded correctly this time, all good?
[00:56] <darkdelusions> Agent_bob: Like other have said thou its gonna be ezer just to do it when it get to where its going :)
[00:56] <rav> flaccid: it seems so. I'm using knetworkmanager to try to connect
[00:56] <flaccid> sounds about the right reliability for broadcom :)
[00:56] <daspope> hi people
[00:57] <Agent_bob> darkdelusions maybe maybe not.  i might not have irc to lean on at that time...
[00:57] <daspope> im new to using Kubuntu, i just set up xampp, does anyone have a better recomendation on a http server?
[00:57] <rav> flaccid: yes, it's up. thanks for the help!
[00:58] <flaccid> np rav, i think i gave you the link the other, so i'll be happy to take the credit for your hard work :p
[00:58] <Agent_bob> daspope cherokee
[00:58] <flaccid> +day
[00:58] <Agent_bob> daspope apache
[00:58] <daspope> xampp uses apache
[00:58] <rav> :)
[00:58] <daspope> its just an easy set up, but i dont know if it will do as much as I want it to
[00:58] <Agent_bob> then you setup apache by xampp    ;/
[00:59] <Agent_bob> !lamp | daspope
[01:01] <daspope> thanks bob
[01:04] <efasser> Hallow 2all
[01:05] <efasser> What is a command to stop process?
[01:05] <efasser> Via terminal?
[01:05] <flaccid> kill
[01:05] <engineer> killall process_name
[01:05] <kumamoto> killall
[01:05] <Agent_bob> killall processname
[01:06] <efasser> flaccid: /sudo kill proc_name
[01:06] <Agent_bob> kill pid
[01:06] <efasser> ?
[01:06] <engineer> kill -9 <pid>
[01:06] <efasser> ok
[01:06] <kumamoto> kill -9 <pid>
[01:06] <Agent_bob> -9 is overkill if it's not needed
[01:06] <efasser> Synaptic doesn't want to get off =)
[01:06] <kumamoto> damn we all love to kill
[01:06] <Agent_bob> kill
[01:06] <efasser> Lol
[01:06] <Agent_bob> kill
[01:07] <flaccid> efasser: yes if it needs root privs and no / :)
[01:07] <flaccid> -9 is not good if the program needs to writeback to files before close
[01:07] <vipex> yo i got some problems now with kopete instant msn:P
[01:07] <Agent_bob> killall kill -16 kill pkill pgrep -k
[01:07] <vipex> i get this msg..
[01:08] <Agent_bob> err 15
[01:08] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[01:08] <vipex> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[01:08] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[01:08] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[01:08] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[01:08] <kumamoto> that pgrep i learned a few weeks ago
[01:08] <Agent_bob> ooops forgot   fuesr -k
[01:08] <flaccid> !pastebin | vipex
[01:08] <Agent_bob> fuser that is
[01:09] <flaccid> vipex: you can launnch a bug for that
[01:09] <vipex> ?
[01:09] <flaccid> !bugs | vipex
[01:09] <daspope> I have a .run file that tries to open in Kate, how do I execute it as a binary file?
[01:10] <flaccid> vipex: you can also goto #kopete and they might be able to assist. you would need the dev packages to debug it properly so you don't get no debugging symbols found
[01:10] <flaccid> daspope: sh /path/to/file.run
[01:10] <daspope> sweet, thanks flaccid
[01:10] <flaccid> np
[01:11] <Agent_bob> daspope if you have dash as your /bin/sh  it is sometimes needed to use   bash file.run   insted
[01:11] <daspope> sh worked, but i got an error saying to run it as super user
[01:11] <daspope> but im the only user on the system
[01:12] <flaccid> daspope: sudo sh /blah..
[01:12] <Agent_bob> sudo bash file.run
[01:12] <daspope> sudo fixed it
[01:12] <walter_eco> hi
[01:12] <walter_eco> did anyone ever figure out the screen resolution problem
[01:13] <walter_eco> that would be able top say
[01:13] <Agent_bob> java in particular built some .run files that were bash specific.   we had lots of complaints in here about that.
[01:19]  * Agent_bob goes to turn off the internet ...
[01:26] <daspope> w00t cooking Jalapeno poppers... now if only I could cook them from withing kubunto.... sudo sh cook_me_poppers.run
[01:27] <vipex> can i play wow on kubuntu?
[01:27] <daspope> vipex i dont think so
[01:27] <flaccid> !wow | vipex
[01:27] <flaccid>  sure can, i have it setup underr wine on my desktop
[01:27] <daspope> does it run good under wine?
[01:28] <flaccid> yeah it runs faster than on windows sometimes, but that doesn't mean that there isn't problems setting it up etc.
[01:28] <vipex> So can i play rs2/wow on kubuntu or no?
[01:29] <flaccid> yes you can play WoW, what is rs2?
[01:29] <vipex> runescape
[01:29] <vipex> its like wow
[01:29] <vipex> but rs2 is worst than Wow
[01:29] <flaccid> yeah rs2 is java so it runs. my housemate is one of the rpg guys..
[01:29] <flaccid> you need to use sun java
[01:30] <Schuenemann> my system became VERY slow after I installed xserver-xgl and restarted... is this normal?
[01:30] <vipex> cant install sun java to kubuntu?
[01:30] <flaccid> Schuenemann: can be. ati is not that great under xgl and is actually better under aiglx now
[01:30] <flaccid> !java | vipex yep
[01:31] <vipex> so can u give me link or something to install tht?
[01:31] <Schuenemann> flaccid, I have nvidia
[01:31] <daspope> so can ubuntu make my jalapeno poppers for me? or will I have to write a bash script for that? ;)
[01:32] <daspope> !poppers | daspope
[01:32] <Schuenemann> nvidia geforce 6200
[01:32] <daspope> [01:32] <daspope> D'oh! :(
[01:32] <flaccid> Schuenemann: right. i dont' believe you need xgl at all then
[01:32] <vipex> uhhhhhhhhh .... ig2galmost..
[01:32] <vipex> see ya
[01:33] <flaccid> vipex: install what? links are above for what you requested
[01:33] <vipex> noooh
[01:33] <vipex> umm
[01:33] <vipex> almost turned pc off
[01:33] <Schuenemann> flaccid, don't I need xgl to run compiz?
[01:33] <vipex> So i need link to install sun java
[01:34] <daspope> vipex the links are above
[01:34] <flaccid> Schuenemann: not anymore, but i will check it out
[01:34] <daspope> !java | vipex
[01:34] <Schuenemann> !xgl
[01:35] <Schuenemann> flaccid, IIRC, my windows were undecorated before I installed XGL
[01:35] <kumamoto> !Swahili | Crazy
[01:35] <vipex> but when i download the java it opens kate -
[01:35] <flaccid> Schuenemann: [10:34] <FusioBot> flaccid: Xgl is not required to run compiz, except for a few specific setups. The message "checking for Xgl: not present" is simply an informational message, not an error.
[01:35] <kumamoto> !Spanish | Crazy
[01:35] <flaccid> Schuenemann: thats a different problem and is addressed on the wiki page from !compiz
[01:35] <daspope> how could I go about making firefox take over as the default browser? I have firefox and made a shortcut to run the script that launches it, but it does not do a default browser check like the windows version
[01:36] <flaccid> vipex: you don't d/l you install it via adept as per the how to
[01:36] <kumamoto> daspope: I think that is setup in the preference
[01:36] <flaccid> daspope: system settings - default applications
[01:36] <vipex> Ok...?
[01:37] <daspope> sweet
[01:37] <flaccid> !java > vipex
[01:37] <Schuenemann> flaccid, yeah... but it's weird that the problem was solved after I installed xgl. Perhaps that package installed a different one that solved the problem
[01:38] <Schuenemann> vipex, do you need the JDK or just the JRE?
[01:38] <flaccid> Schuenemann: um its hard to explain and i don't remember the details. but its detailed a bit here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion  (If you are missing the window decorations, then you most likely need the compiz-kde, or emerald packages.)
[01:39] <daspope> YAY! Jalapeno poppers are done, fear me as I nibble on deliciously breaded and fried bits of peppers and cheese, for one day I shall consume enough junk food to give myself the girlish figure of rosie o'donnel
[01:39] <Schuenemann> flaccid, I read that, but you pay attention, you'll see those packages are already installed with the previous command :-)
[01:40] <flaccid> Schuenemann: previous command?
[01:40] <Schuenemann> sorry, well, not the emerald
[01:40] <Schuenemann> I'll try later anyway, I just removed everything related
[01:40] <Schuenemann> thanks
[01:40] <vipex> its noot wooorkiiing wohooo ;(
[01:41] <vipex> wht i do wrong!!!!
[01:41] <flaccid> Schuenemann: there is also the need to replace window decs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-a50f73445dc17260096b8a098a5af3e2dda6e720
[01:41] <flaccid> !doesntwrk | vipex
[01:41] <Schuenemann> flaccid, yeah, the one the wiki tells you
[01:42] <vipex> flacci tell me step by step tht how i get java works ok?
[01:42] <Schuenemann> flaccid, it contains compiz-kde, so there's no way you won't have it
[01:42] <flaccid> Schuenemann: if you remove xgl and have done all on that page and still have problems, the #compiz-fusion people should be able to advise i reckon
[01:42] <flaccid> but not emerald
[01:42] <Schuenemann> flaccid, it's ok, the system is normal again. I'll reinstall compiz later
[01:42] <flaccid> ok
[01:42] <Schuenemann> !doesn't work | vipex
[01:43] <flaccid> hehe ta
[01:43] <vipex> ???
[01:43] <flaccid> don't tell us it doesn't work, explain the behaviour/error etc.
[01:44] <vipex> omg i dont speak good english cos i m from finland,,
[01:44] <vipex> Thts why i cant tell:S
[01:44] <vipex> I dunno all english words!=
[01:44] <Tinason> I just installed postfix, via adept. during installation i was prompted to select the server type (internet, local, smarthost, etc...) i want to change my mind now, how can i initiate that setup script so i can choose a server type again?
[01:44] <Schuenemann> !fi | vipex
[01:45] <daspope> vipex, you said it is opening in kate... try.... sudo sh filename
[01:45] <vipex> Okay problem is this : I dot have java on this pc cos im using kubuntu and i dont know how i can download it to kubuntu cos kubuntu is different than windows.
[01:45] <flaccid> you don't need to install java manual, its in the repos
[01:45] <vipex> reps*?:D
[01:45] <flaccid> !java | vipex
[01:46] <flaccid> vipex: please read the above, we have pasted it a few times now
[01:46] <vipex> Ok i should  open shell konsole:O
[01:46] <flaccid> yeah
[01:46] <engineer> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[01:46] <Schuenemann> vipex, dude, just type sun-java6-jre and be happy. Or join the finnish channel #kubuntu-fi
[01:46] <Schuenemann> oops
[01:47] <Schuenemann> do as engineer says
[01:47] <vipex> yeah
[01:48] <vipex> Now it worked
[01:48] <vipex> phew
[01:48] <vipex> So its now doen?
[01:48] <vipex> done*
[01:48] <vipex> It have been installed now?
[01:48] <engineer> java -version
[01:48] <vipex> ?
[01:49] <Schuenemann> you downloaded that fast?
[01:49] <ixenakis> salut tout le monde :-))
[01:49] <engineer> vipex i've been telling you that installing command the whole night
[01:49] <daspope> lol engineer
[01:49] <vipex> yea i know
[01:50] <vipex> but this isfirst time when it worked
[01:50] <engineer> you could have installed like 50 java jvms by now
[01:50] <Schuenemann> vipex, go to konsole and type java -version
[01:50] <vipex> So can i now play wow?:O
[01:50] <vipex> ok
[01:50] <engineer> what's wow?
[01:50] <daspope> World of Warcraft
[01:51] <engineer> oh, i thought that's the thing you say when you're surprised
[01:51] <daspope> lol
[01:51] <coreymon77> it is
[01:51] <daspope> does kubuntu come packaged with an ftpd?
[01:51] <coreymon77> WoW is an acronm for world of warcraft
[01:51] <engineer> sudo aptitude install proftpd
[01:51] <vipex> heh timeis here 3:51 am
[01:51] <daspope> thanks bro
[01:51] <coreymon77> the word wow hoever, is when you are surprised
[01:52] <engineer> i had a friend that had a €600 worth account
[01:53] <coreymon77> why accounts for that game are worth that much money is beyond me, but whatever
[01:53] <engineer> he had been playing for 3 years
[01:53] <coreymon77> so
[01:53] <daspope> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "proftpd"
[01:53] <coreymon77> why does that make it worth anything to anyone other than blizzard
[01:53] <Roey> Hi, why do I get this weird error when mounting my SD card??  http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/software/345276-unable-mount-removable-media-hal-storage-removable-mount.html  <-- is there a fix for this?
[01:53] <coreymon77> especially as much as $600 dollars
[01:54] <engineer> €600 is not $600
[01:54] <engineer> it's $900
[01:54] <coreymon77> i dont see what that first symbol is
[01:54] <engineer> E600
[01:54] <engineer> lol
[01:54] <mr---t-> euro
[01:55] <mr---t-> it comes up as two squares here
[01:55] <engineer> oh
[01:55] <coreymon77> that was a euro sign
[01:55] <engineer> i use utf8
[01:55] <coreymon77> comes up as one square for me
[01:56] <coreymon77> so do i, as i can see hebrew on this thing, so, why cant i see the euro sign, but whatever
[01:56] <coreymon77> 600 euros is even more rediculous
[01:56] <mr---t-> there is a way to render it correctly but i nver did it
[01:57] <daspope> Corey, you in Konversation?
[01:57] <engineer> he is
[01:57] <coreymon77> yes i am
[01:57] <daspope> I think I saw a language setting in it
[01:58] <daspope> I couldnt see the euro symbol either
[01:58] <daspope> so im gonna check it out'
[01:58] <daspope> help - switch application language
[01:58] <mr---t-> I t goes by how you have set up your keyboard unless you specify otherwise
[01:58] <daspope> lets you switch between american english and british english
[01:59] <coreymon77> doesnt matter
[01:59] <daspope> you can set a fallback language
[01:59] <daspope> I think that will take care of it
[01:59] <vipex> errr....its working but when it starts java comes error
[01:59] <daspope> I will find out after rebooting the application i guess
[01:59] <coreymon77> it really doesnt matter, thats the first thing i havent been able to see, so whatever
[02:00] <vipex> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1"
[02:00] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[02:00] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[02:00] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[02:00] <vipex> (no debugging symbols found)
[02:00] <coreymon77> wow
[02:00] <coreymon77> wait a second
[02:00] <mr---t-> lol
[02:01] <Schuenemann> €600
[02:01] <coreymon77> ever heard of pastebin
[02:01] <daspope> How can you input special characters in kubuntu? in windows you can hold down alt and put in the character code....
[02:01] <coreymon77> and i see that Schuenemann
[02:01] <flaccid_> !pastebin | vipex
[02:01] <vipex> lol
[02:01] <flaccid_> vipex: you can submit a bug for that if you would like
[02:01] <daspope> Schue I could see that euro symbol now
[02:01] <vipex> hye guys
[02:01] <vipex> im telling about *** bug
[02:01] <mr---t-> me too
[02:01] <Schuenemann> ´ªº~º~;w[wð´?`€€~^`^÷×µ&µ&ŁØÞ``¯
[02:02] <Schuenemann> oops sorry
[02:02] <vipex> that same bug came when i open instant msn
[02:02] <rav> hello. some of the KDE programs i use don't have any help files. is there a package that needs to be installed to get them?
[02:02] <coreymon77> daspope: well, if you are talking about konversation, theres a special characters option in the insert menu
[02:02] <flaccid_> vipex: there is a system to report bugs like i told you before!
[02:02] <daspope> ah
[02:02] <vipex> yea i know!
[02:02] <mr---t-> that would be comic book swearing from here
[02:02] <vipex> but im too lazy and i dont want register:P
[02:03] <daspope> outside of konversation how would one do it? I just tried the alt-method in kate to no avail
[02:03] <coreymon77> look in the insert menu in kate
[02:03] <coreymon77> or somewhere in kates menus
[02:03] <coreymon77> it should be there
[02:04] <daspope> so there isnt a quick way to do it assuming an application has no insert functionality
[02:04] <flaccid_> vipex: then stop repeating here please :0
[02:04] <vipex> but g2g sleep
[02:04] <vipex> yh sorry
[02:04] <vipex> im tired
[02:04] <coreymon77> daspope: there probably is, look around
[02:04] <daspope> been looking, just thought I would ask
[02:04] <coreymon77> typically the only special symbol i ever use thats not on my keyboard is the degree sign
[02:05] <coreymon77> and i usually just find that in the special character map of whatever program im using
[02:05] <vipex> cya
[02:05] <daspope> I will need to be using a couple
[02:05] <coreymon77> take a look around, do a google search, there should be something
[02:06] <coreymon77> me being on my mac right now, i cant go about testing, so sorry i cant be of more help
[02:06] <mr---t-> I beleive you can configure your keyboard to hot ke y or key combo I've resd about it but never have done it
[02:08] <daspope> I love google adwords
[02:08] <daspope> freakin awesome
[02:09] <coreymon77> meh, i blocked that stuff with a ff extension a long time ago
[02:10] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, which one? adblock? rip?
[02:11] <daspope> hmmm to install an rpm do you use something other than sh? I tried "sudo sh flash-plugin-9.0.124.0-release.i386.rpm" and it gave an error
[02:11] <coreymon77> Schuenemann: customize google actually
[02:11] <daspope> im trying to install the flash plugin for firefox
[02:11] <coreymon77> daspope: debian doesnt use rpms
[02:11] <daspope> doh
[02:11] <daspope> ok ill download the tar.gz
[02:11] <Schuenemann> daspope, you can convert it to .deb using alien. They say it's dangerous, anyway
[02:11] <engineer> sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:12] <Schuenemann> but there is flash player in the repositories, it's flashplugin-nonfree I think
[02:12] <darkdelusions> I know its in the restricted xtras package
[02:12] <darkdelusions> for sure
[02:12] <daspope> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "flashplugin-nonfree"
[02:12] <darkdelusions> daspope: look for the kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:13] <engineer> it's in multiverse for me
[02:13] <engineer> apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[02:13] <darkdelusions> does 8.04 come with multi enabled by default?
[02:14] <darkdelusions> doesnt even
[02:14] <Schuenemann> daspope, pastebin your sources.list
[02:15] <mr---t-> besides if your running 8.04 flash won't install from thier site w/o tweaking
[02:15] <mr---t-> (flashplayer site)
[02:16] <daspope> where can i find sources.list
[02:17] <engineer> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:17] <darkdelusions> I am slow tonight :)
[02:18] <daspope> !pastebin
[02:18] <daspope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22257/
[02:20] <BluesKaj> daspope, uncomment the lines 40, 41, 47, 48
[02:23] <daspope> cool saved it
[02:23] <Schuenemann> daspope, now, sudo apt-get update
[02:24] <daspope> gave an error\
[02:24] <daspope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22260/
[02:25] <daspope> oh crap im a retaTRD
[02:25] <daspope> retard lol
[02:25] <engineer> justin@Bender:~$ daspope, now, sudo apt-get update
[02:25] <engineer> ???
[02:25] <daspope> i copied the whole line lol
[02:25] <daspope> lmao i feel dumb
[02:25] <engineer> damn right you are
[02:25] <engineer> by not figuring out what was wrong
[02:25] <daspope> its been a long day :P
[02:26] <daspope> i figured it out soon as I pasted the pastebin link :(
[02:26] <daspope> ok i just ran the update
[02:27] <Schuenemann> you need to think about what you're doing, not just copy and paste :-P
[02:27] <daspope> :(\
[02:28] <daspope> ok installed the flash pluin, lets see if it works with firefox now
[02:28] <engineer> if it's fox 32bit it will work
[02:29] <darkdelusions> I would reccomend restarting FF
[02:29] <darkdelusions> if u havent
[02:29] <Schuenemann> engineer, is flash working for 64bit?
[02:29] <engineer> no
[02:29] <daspope> rebooted FF, still no flash
[02:29] <engineer> only under a 32bit fox
[02:30] <Schuenemann> engineer, argh... it's been like that for months!
[02:31] <engineer> 32bit plugins don't work on 64bit browsers
[02:31] <engineer> blame adobe
[02:31] <Schuenemann> does that happen to internet explorer 64b too?
[02:32] <engineer> yes
[02:32] <engineer> in fact
[02:33] <engineer> microsoft released a 64bit build to push adobe and sun to build their plugins for 64bit platforms
[02:33] <engineer> i hope mozilla does it as well
[02:33] <Schuenemann> who uses sun's plugin?
[02:34] <engineer> i use it for some applets in banks
[02:34] <daspope> Hey engineer, in the tar.gz from adobe it contains a shell script installer file, and a libflashplayer.so file, I tried "sudo sh flashplayer-installer" and it says sh: Can't open flashplayer-installer
[02:34] <engineer> sh ./flash ...
[02:35] <mr---t-> daspope: if your on ff 3.0
[02:35] <mr---t-> the installer won't work
[02:35] <Schuenemann> engineer, but that's java, not flash
[02:35] <daspope> bah
[02:35] <engineer> yeah
[02:35] <daspope> so is there anything I can do with the .so file?
[02:35] <engineer> java is used widely
[02:35] <engineer> not just flash
[02:37] <mr---t-> daspope: the installer looks for a file that isn't there on ff3.0
[02:38] <daspope> so with FF3 you are just out of luck?
[02:39] <mr---t-> no
[02:40] <mr---t-> did you go to the ff plugins site and install a flash emulation plugin?
[02:41] <mr---t-> I did and my flash wouldn't work until I removed it
[02:41] <engineer> Schuenemann it's odd
[02:41] <engineer> i got kubuntu 64bit here
[02:42] <engineer> running on a firefox 64bit build
[02:42] <engineer> and i cna run youtube videos
[02:42] <engineer> so i dunno now
[02:43] <bibek> i just installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy LTS and adept is not working
[02:43] <bibek> any help ?
[02:43] <flaccid_> bibek: what exactly is not working?
[02:44] <bibek> adept package manager
[02:44] <bibek> it tries to load but nothing
[02:44] <Schuenemann> engineer, I think that was solved some time ago
[02:44] <bibek> how do i solve it ?
[02:44] <bibek> any help ?
[02:44] <flaccid_> bibek: what happens, can you run it from konsole and see the problem?
[02:45] <engineer> bibek install synaptic
[02:45] <bibek> ok i will try it now
[02:46] <bibek> i cant install synaptics from the web, i have not added any repositories
[02:46] <engineer> synaptic
[02:46] <engineer> not synaptics
[02:46] <bibek> ok
[02:47] <bibek>  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:47] <bibek> is that the way?
[02:48] <deejaypip> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a spyware-remover program for Kubuntu. My sister keeps logging onto sketchy websites, and my computer has been acting oddly lately.
[02:50] <coreymon77> spyware, linux? who ever heard of such a thing?
[02:50] <mr---t-> spy ware on linux?
[02:50] <deejaypip> I'm asking this question for a friend, actually. that was my reaction
[02:50] <deejaypip> So what do I tell my friend?
[02:51] <coreymon77> there is no spyware on linux
[02:51] <deejaypip> great. thanks. let me ask what the exact problems are. sorry about that. i'll get back to you in a second.
[02:52] <bibek> i am installing synaptic now, thaks guys
[02:54] <Schuenemann> sketchy means porn?
[02:55] <deejaypip> Schuenemann: haha. i have no idea. the sister is a crazy middle-schooler so anything is possible.
[02:55] <bibek> what else can be sketchy?
[02:55] <deejaypip> Okay, my friend's problem is that the system is operating much slower than when he first installed kubuntu earlier this month.
[02:55] <engineer> bibek ?
[02:55] <bibek> yes
[02:55] <coreymon77> probably because there is more stuff on it
[02:55] <deejaypip> Yeah, I'm sorry, my friend isn't being very detailed at all. The hardware is also shitty.
[02:56] <coreymon77> and the more stuff on the computer, especially on old computers, the slower the computer is
[02:56] <coreymon77> there is no spyware on linux
[02:56] <deejaypip> yeah, that's what i was thinking... sorry to bother you guys with such a basic question and all.
[02:56] <coreymon77> and sketchy for some people could mean torrent sites, so, ya
[02:56] <Schuenemann> perhaps KDE isn't the best option for your friend
[02:56] <coreymon77> no problem
[02:56] <flaccid_> there is spyware on linux. like rootkits :)
[02:56] <mr---t-> top
[02:57] <cesar_> hi folks
[02:57] <Dr_willis> depends on how you defind 'spyware'
[02:57] <deejaypip> Schuenemann: is GNOME better?
[02:57] <cesar_> I have the answer
[02:58] <coreymon77> deejaypip: no, windows vista is ;) :P
[02:58] <Schuenemann> hehe
[02:58] <Schuenemann> deejaypip, maybe XFCE
[02:58] <cesar_> it depends. like a car, some cars have a nice looking for some people and other cars for other people
[02:58] <Dr_willis> OS/2 Warp is best!
[02:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:58] <deejaypip> coreymon77: hahahhahahhaha :D. or mac os xvxvxvxvxvx
[02:58] <Schuenemann> mac os isn't bad
[02:58] <coreymon77> ya
[02:58] <cesar_> so I can say I like porche because it has a very beautiful appearing
[02:58] <darkdelusions> Dr_willis: there is a company here in tampa running OS2 warp on some of there systems
[02:59] <coreymon77> im actually on a mac right now to be honest
[02:59] <deejaypip> Yeah... macs are great, but I have to admit I miss OS 9
[02:59] <engineer> im actually on vista right now to be honest
[02:59] <cesar_> but another person might say he likes a mercedez because it's better looking
[02:59] <deejaypip> anyhow it turns out that my friend only has 128 MB of RAM so I suggested to try something like puppylinux
[02:59] <Schuenemann> I'm actually on windows 98 now, to be honest
[03:00] <cesar_> if I say Gnome is the best I am not saying the truth
[03:00] <Schuenemann> deejaypip, let him try xubuntu
[03:00] <Dr_willis> deejaypip,  i dissagree on that statement. :) but we dont want to start that argument again in here.. Heh heh
[03:00] <cesar_> If I say Kde is the best I am not saying the truth either
[03:00] <deejaypip> schuenemann: of course. I forgot about that. thanks. i'm suggesting it
[03:00] <Schuenemann> cesar_, so, we can say you're never telling the truth, right?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> with 128mb of ram - Puppy or som eother Micro-Linux - would proberly be wiorth using.
[03:01] <mr---t-> DSL
[03:01] <cesar_> like INTEL and AMD
[03:01] <cesar_> intel users defend their architecture
[03:02] <cesar_> Amd users also defend their architecture
[03:03] <cesar_> for me amd is the best, but does not mean is the best for all of people, see what I mean?
[03:03] <cesar_> the same happens to GNOME and KDE
[03:04] <cesar_> some people do like gnome because is different from WIndows but in KDE you can personalize your enviroment like gnome
[03:05] <deejaypip> Yeah, personally, I prefer Gnome over KDE but, as you said... Mercedes vs Porsches
[03:05] <cesar_> in linux you can personalize everything you want to your likes and needs
[03:06] <cesar_> people do not like WINDOWS Vista but you can have vista like windows xp or ever MAC Os or linux
[03:07] <mr---t-> deejaypip: your friend might want to try Damn small linux the whole program is less than 50 mb and works good on old boxes
[03:07] <engineer> cesar_ i like windows vista
[03:07] <engineer> i also like ubuntu
[03:07] <cesar_> yeah. that is what I mean
[03:07] <cesar_> many people like some things and the others some other things
[03:08] <cesar_> in my case I hate vista
[03:08] <cesar_> but if you do like congratulations for you...,
[03:11] <coreymon77> MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[03:20] <coreymon77> MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[03:20] <coreymon77> ya im bored
[03:25]  * coreymon77 pokes around for life
[03:25]  * mr---t- is alive
[03:25] <flaccid_> quit it with the shouting ot coreymon77
[03:26] <coreymon77> sorry
[03:29] <Schuenemann> 23:30, bedtime
[03:29] <Schuenemann> farewell
[03:35] <robert__> hey guys
[03:35] <robert__> doh...
[03:35] <Hix-2> ok, thats better
[03:35] <coreymon77> hi
[03:36] <Hix-2> hey guys. is there support for the lexmark printers with kubuntu? specifically the x3480 model
[03:37] <szakulec> hi, is there a good guide to setting up Kontact to automatically sign your emails? I've tried the various options, but only the deprecated inline openPGP seems to fit what I'm looking for
[03:42] <edugonch> Hello, I just install kde 4.1, and the nvidia drivers, but now I don't have start menu
[03:43] <cesar_> hola
[03:43] <cesar_> como cambio la resolucion en kubuntu
[03:43] <cesar_> solo me muestra una opcion 800x600
[03:44] <cesar_> tengo una resolucion de 1440x900
[03:44] <flaccid_> !es | cesar_
[03:44] <flaccid_> !kde4 | edugonch
[03:44] <flaccid_> !printing | Hix-2
[03:45] <Hix-2> ubottu, i know about printing... im a gentoo fan
[03:55] <CrocoJet> I have two sound boards, one on-board and other pci. Where I can select (kubuntu hardy) sound board to use ?
[04:00] <hawkeyex> hi
[04:00] <hawkeyex> is there a way for me to change the default application for video (mpeg, avi) from kaffeine to vlc?
[04:00] <hawkeyex> kaffeine is a POS
[04:01] <frogonwheels> yeah - I hate kaffeine too.
[04:01] <frogonwheels> um
[04:02] <flaccid_> hawkeyex: system settings - default applications - file assocations ; change as per file extension/mime type in question
[04:03] <CrocoJet> where I can set one sound board like default ?
[04:04] <frogonwheels> ah yeah.  hawkeyex you just given me incentive to change my pref too.
[04:07] <hawkeyex> flaccid_: ok - except dolphin is still loading videos with kaffeine
[04:07] <hawkeyex> any fix to that?
[04:07] <hawkeyex> i've changed it to vlc
[04:07] <CrocoJet> is not "open with" pop menu?
[04:07] <arashi> Hi everyone... I'm a new Kubuntu user...
[04:07] <flaccid_> hawkeyex: you may have missed one entry in file associations
[04:08] <hawkeyex> hmm
[04:08] <hawkeyex> I thought I covered it all.
[04:08] <hawkeyex> I'll check again
[04:08] <heric> hi
[04:08] <heric> I am new in this world
[04:08] <arashi> Nice 2 meet u heric...
[04:09] <heric> nice to meet you too
[04:09] <heric> where are you from?'
[04:10] <arashi> I'm from Malaysia... u? I'm male 27..
[04:10] <heric> I am from venezuela i am male 18
[04:10] <CrocoJet> flaccid_: how can I set sound board default ?
[04:10] <frogonwheels> !ot
[04:11] <frogonwheels> :)
[04:12] <heric> I need help with my video card
[04:12] <CrocoJet> no program to change sound board default for KDE 3.5.9 ?
[04:12] <CrocoJet> (kubuntu hardy)
[04:12] <flaccid_> CrocoJet: lots on google about that
[04:13] <heric> do we speak spanish??
[04:13] <arashi> Sorry... I'm looking for someone who could teach me how to install different language... the language support selection is darkened in adept-settings...
[04:14] <EagleScreen> heric, for spanish is #kubuntu-es
[04:14] <heric> thank you
[04:14] <arashi> & I don't know how to activate d auto-update feature which i heard is available..
[04:33] <ALTF4> Hi, anyone can help me, i'm trying to install apache package and it says "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" when i configure
[04:34] <flaccid_> why are you not using the pkg from the repos ALTF4?
[04:34] <ALTF4> i dont know how..
[04:34] <flaccid_> !lamp | ALTF4
[04:34] <flaccid_> there you go
[04:34] <ALTF4> ok cool
[04:34] <cahuez> altf4, at terminal just try: sudo apt-get install apache2 ..
[04:34] <ALTF4> thanks i'll try that
[04:34] <ALTF4> ok
[04:35] <ALTF4> says a error message
[04:36] <ALTF4> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (ressource temporarily unavailable)
[04:37] <cahuez> humm, is a Adept instance opened already..!?
[04:37] <ALTF4> ok sorry that was because its opened ya
[04:37] <ALTF4> well its says couldn.t find package apache2
[04:38] <cahuez> let me check...
[04:38] <ALTF4> does its connect to the internet to check for list of package?
[04:38] <flaccid_> thats why its a good idea to read the wiki entry so you know what to do so you can...
[04:38] <flaccid_> !info apache2
[04:38] <flaccid_> it is in main so you might need to fetch updates first
[04:38] <ALTF4> ok
[04:38] <cahuez> altf4, try this way> apt-cache search apache2   ..
[04:39] <ALTF4> says nothing when i do
[04:39] <cahuez> mm, then check for the right repositories..
[04:40] <flaccid_> its in main:    apache2 |    2.2.8-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[04:40] <ALTF4> i downloaded the files to install it
[04:41] <flaccid_> we know that. now install it the proper way!
[04:41] <ALTF4> i got httpd, php and mysql downloaded
[04:41] <ALTF4> :S
[04:41] <flaccid_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apache2 after making sure main is enabled in repos
[04:41] <flaccid_> if you want the whole stack, then you read! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-30d24d1b09c564169559e7494f4f79611f5099b5
[04:41] <flaccid_> they didn't create the factoids to be ignored :)
[04:41] <ALTF4> lol
[04:42] <ALTF4> ya i guess.. its just that im new to linux, trying to understand all those terms
[04:42] <flaccid_> if you don't understand something, just ask :)
[04:42] <ALTF4> well.. what is repos ? :|
[04:42] <cahuez> altf4, you can try too> sudo apt-get update ..
[04:42] <ALTF4> k
[04:43] <flaccid_> !repos | ALTF4
[04:43] <cahuez> repositories, the universe of applications available for kubuntu/linux/etc...
[04:43] <flaccid_> !adept > ALTF4
[04:43] <flaccid_> sorry to swarm you but you have some basic stuff to read up on
[04:43] <ALTF4> thanks
[04:43] <flaccid_> apache2 is in main so you only need to fetch updates in adept or by command
[04:43] <flaccid_> np
[04:44] <ALTF4> well i did both
[04:44] <ALTF4> ok so i shouldnt search for apache2 but for main?
[04:45] <flaccid_> so did you install it and if not what did it say was the problem?
[04:45] <ALTF4> that was a problem with C compiler
[04:45] <ALTF4> nor found in $PATH
[04:45] <ALTF4> not*
[04:45] <flaccid_> don't compile!
[04:46] <flaccid_> there is no point especially for newbies, it only creates problems
[04:46] <ALTF4> just trying to configure before as the installation says :S
[04:46] <flaccid_> simply goto adept and manage repositories, make sure main is enabled then install
[04:46] <ALTF4> well i tried to search for the package apache2 before downloading all this
[04:46] <ALTF4> k
[04:46] <flaccid_> ALTF4: you do not compile in ubuntu, it has pre compiled packages. you do not know how to compile so why try it?
[04:46] <ALTF4> oh is it maintainer?
[04:46] <flaccid_> huh
[04:47] <ALTF4> when you say main
[04:47] <flaccid_> have a read over all the informatin i have given you and come back after you have
[04:47] <ALTF4> k
[04:52] <ALTF4> flaccid, there is a package i might not have because when i click on manage repositories the windows opened isnt same as the picture on the webpage
[04:52] <flaccid_> which webpage? could be because thats instructions for gnome/ubuntu
[04:53] <ALTF4> this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:53] <ALTF4> the picture just after the one shows the manage repositoried menu
[04:54] <flaccid_> could be an old screenshot and looks like its on a dif tab
[04:54] <ALTF4> when i click that menu i see a list with Type/URL/Distribution/Components
[04:54] <flaccid_> so once you goto manage repos its on the first tab, "Canonical-supported Open Source software" <check it>
[04:54] <flaccid_> make sure that is ticked
[04:56] <ALTF4> there is no checkbox. just a listview with some information I can change
[04:56] <ALTF4> with some URL
[04:56] <ALTF4> i guess its the url for the lists of packages..
[04:56] <cahuez> and can you check any checkboxes..?
[04:56] <ALTF4> there is no checkbox there
[04:57] <ALTF4> maybe its my version of kubuntu that is too old??
[04:57] <flaccid_> what version is it?
[04:57] <ALTF4> how can i check that version..
[04:57] <flaccid_> lsb_release -r
[04:58] <flaccid_> in konsole
[04:58] <ALTF4> 6.06
[04:58] <ALTF4> must be too old i guess
[04:58] <flaccid_> yep, sorry about that...
[04:58] <ALTF4> is there a way to update this version without downloading a whole distribution
[04:58] <flaccid_> yes
[04:59] <ALTF4> sweet
[04:59] <ALTF4> how ? :|
[05:00] <ALTF4> sorry to flood question, your help is appreciated
[05:00] <flaccid_> !upgrae | ALTF4
[05:00] <flaccid_> !upgrade
[05:00] <flaccid_> also looks like they moved apache2 from main to security
[05:00] <flaccid_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/apache2
[05:01] <ALTF4> lol i think its the first release i got
[05:02] <ALTF4> because they doesnt talk about older version that 6.06
[05:02] <ALTF4> :S
[05:02] <ALTF4> thats like 2 years i got that one
[05:02] <flaccid_> its still supported unfortunately
[05:02] <flaccid_> at least in kubuntu
[05:02] <ALTF4> ya
[05:02] <Herissy> anyone know how to completely get rid of kde4 besides reinstalling
[05:02] <ALTF4> but its hard getting help with old features.. ill try upgrade this and try what you said about main in repositories
[05:03] <flaccid_> Herissy:  remove the kde4 packages
[05:03] <ALTF4> thanks for support flaccid and cahuez
[05:03] <flaccid_> np
[05:03] <cahuez> you are welcome altf4..!
[05:04] <ALTF4> :)
[05:05] <twobitsprite> is it just me, or does kde4 need a lot of work?
[05:06] <flaccid_> correct
[05:06] <twobitsprite> it is me _and_ kde4 needs a lot of work?
[05:06] <flaccid_> just kde4 probably
[05:08] <twobitsprite> is there a way to downgrade back to kde3?
[05:08] <flaccid_> you don't need to downgrade, they are separate sessions from kdm..
[05:08] <twobitsprite> ahh ha
[05:08] <twobitsprite> brb
[05:09] <flaccid_> w00t compiz fusion going stable on hardy/kde3
[05:10] <EagleScreen> compiz-fusion is not working well in hardy/KDE3 for me
[05:10] <flaccid_> any idea why EagleScreen what vid driver you on?
[05:11] <twobitsprite> ok, so I don't have a kde3 session... I installed straight from the KDE4 remix CD and I don't see how to install KDE3 from symantec
[05:11] <EagleScreen> radeon
[05:12] <flaccid_> that could be why, it will probably work better with fglrx
[05:12] <cahuez> ati/radeon needs some additional steps to be well configured..
[05:12] <flaccid_> and im on a radeon 9600 myself..
[05:13] <flaccid_> i think there is about 3 things extra i put in xorg.conf if you wanna see
[05:13] <cahuez> hold flacc..
[05:14] <EagleScreen> i have a Radeon 9250, it uses ati or radeon free driver of xorg
[05:14] <EagleScreen> i have 3D accel
[05:14] <twobitsprite> also, I don't understand why firefox depends on so many gnome packages
[05:14] <EagleScreen> compiz works fine for me under GNOME, but i never works fine in KDE
[05:14] <cahuez> the ati/radeon's have a bug which is gone with the hardy heron distro, so..
[05:14] <EagleScreen> i experience multiple problems
[05:15] <flaccid_> try fglrx EagleScreen
[05:15] <EagleScreen> fglrx is not compatible yet for mu card
[05:15] <cahuez> if you have it, you are at rock solid distro..
[05:15] <flaccid_> oh really damn
[05:15] <marvin__> hi
[05:15] <cahuez> hi marv..
[05:15] <marvin__> i have a problem with kde login screen, none of the kde themes load
[05:15] <flaccid_> marvin__: bug
[05:16] <marvin__> ah, but it worked a couple of hours ago, i think it has something to do with teh configuration, what should I check?
[05:16] <cahuez> marvin, you are only seeing a console one or..!?
[05:16] <marvin__> no
[05:16] <marvin__> the gui shows, just the themes doesn't load, it's not console kde loads fine
[05:16] <flaccid_> marvin__:  #kde might be better at helping
[05:16] <marvin__> ok thanks
[05:16] <flaccid_> i've never had themes work properly configured from the gui frontend..
[05:17] <cahuez> yeap, the themes can be still not stable at all, by the moment..
[05:17] <ALTF4> hum.. what are they talking about when they say : Make sure the "dapper-updates" software channel is enabled
[05:17] <marvin__> yeah, the theme manager in kde does not seem to work to fix the problem
[05:17] <flaccid_> ALTF4: its one of the repos
[05:18] <ALTF4> oh ok
[05:18] <flaccid_> marvin__: another frustrating thing. im stuck on some crappy flower theme atm..
[05:18] <marvin__> haha is there any config file in kubuntu that we can edit?
[05:19] <flaccid_> most of em
[05:19] <flaccid_> well all of them?
[05:19] <marvin__> ah kde is not responding :( this is bad...
[05:20] <marvin__> maybe i should reinstall something, but what package should I reinstall then?
[05:21] <flaccid_> you don't know the problem yet. its best to login with failsafe session then startkde in konsole and see problem..
[05:23] <marvin__> kde loads fine
[05:23] <marvin__> just the login screen looks like crap
[05:23] <marvin__> just a grey box, like windows 95 ;)
[05:24] <flaccid_> oh
[05:24] <marvin__> this might help do a cd /etc/kde3/kdm
[05:24] <marvin__> and edit kdmrc scroll down until you hit theme
[05:24] <flaccid_> well if you let me get a cup of tea we can look at how to restore because i need to do it as well..
[05:24] <marvin__> let me try it, let me do a google search on it, i think that's how you do it manually
[05:25] <marvin__> apparently that seems to be the issue
[05:25] <marvin__> wait, let me try it
[05:26] <flaccid_> yeah its definately the issue
[05:27] <marvin__> wait, i want to make sure though
[05:27] <flaccid_> marvin__: which kdm are you using kdm or kdm-kde4?
[05:28] <marvin__> kdm-kde4
[05:28] <marvin__> is there another config file?
[05:28] <marvin__> i think kdm
[05:28] <marvin__> says kdm-kde4 not installed
[05:28] <marvin__> wow
[05:28] <flaccid_> marvin__: edit /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc and change UseTheme=true to UseTheme=false
[05:28] <flaccid_> oh
[05:29] <flaccid_> then its /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc for you
[05:29] <marvin__> ok
[05:29] <marvin__> i'll install kdm4 later but let me try to do this first
[05:29] <marvin__> why is the UseTheme false?
[05:30] <flaccid_> so it doesn't use a theme?
[05:30] <marvin__> ok let me try it all
[05:30] <marvin__> brb
[05:31] <raj3186> hello
[05:31] <raj3186> guys i need some help
[05:32] <flaccid_> !help
[05:32] <flaccid_> !ask | raj3186
[05:33] <twobitsprite> alright, much better... I'm now back in kde3 :)
[05:33] <raj3186> im a novice Kubuntu user and im facing excessive cpu usage ppproblem with kubuntu 8.04 due to a process, kacpid which uses 75% cpu all the time
[05:33] <twobitsprite> how, how do I get firefox to not be so ubly
[05:33] <twobitsprite> ugly*
[05:33] <flaccid_> twobitsprite: wait for kasteo to finish noia extreme for fx3 :)
[05:34] <flaccid_> raj3186: you might need to disable acpi
[05:34] <raj3186> can u tell me how to do that please
[05:34] <flaccid_> raj3186: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257912
[05:35] <twobitsprite> flaccid_: is that a theme?
[05:36] <flaccid_> no
[05:36] <raj3186> thx flaccid
[05:36] <flaccid_> np
[05:36] <raj3186> gotta fix this issue now
[05:36] <raj3186> :)
[05:36] <flaccid_> k
[05:36] <twobitsprite> actually... my whole display is acting funny... how do I find out what driver I need for my gfx card?
[05:37] <twobitsprite> my xorg.conf file is pretty baren right now
[05:37] <flaccid_> twobitsprite: there kind of isn't a way
[05:38] <flaccid_> yeah thats because xorg 7 is designed that way to not require a lot of directives
[05:40] <twobitsprite> is there a gui for specifying what my hardware is for display?
[05:44] <flaccid_> twobitsprite: kinfocenter
[05:45] <twobitsprite> no, I mean, so I can tell it what my hardware is and it will choose a driver or something
[05:46] <twobitsprite> because everything looks fuzzy, and my screen flickers every now and then
[05:47] <flaccid_> twobitsprite: you can enable the restricted driver in hardware drivers manager or use display & resolution in system settings
[05:47] <flaccid_> sorry monitor & display
[05:48]  * flaccid_ bbs
[05:48] <twobitsprite> I don't see system settings in my kde menu
[05:48] <minhaaj> !skype
[05:55] <twobitsprite> flaccid_: well... I've gotta hit the sack... thanks for you help
[05:59] <minhaaj> my adept interface is strange
[05:59] <minhaaj> its not giving me the sidebar options of education, internet etc categories
[05:59] <minhaaj> any ideas ?
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> search for the package you want and don't worry about it?
[06:00] <minhaaj> it doesnt work in that interface
[06:00] <minhaaj> and i also might remember from watching what i need
[06:01] <minhaaj> !mozilla
[06:01] <minhaaj> !thunderbird
[06:04] <flaccid_> i didn't know adept had categories like that
[06:06] <flaccid_> there is tags, but its not he same thing
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> flaccid_: it doesn't.
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> minhaaj: try synaptic
[06:06] <flaccid_> yeah
[06:06] <flaccid_> maybe minhaaj is thinking of Add/Remove Programs
[06:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> :(
[06:40] <the-erm> How do you install gnome on this thing?
[06:40] <the-erm> adept manager doesn't like it when I try and install it.
[06:40] <the-erm> I know it's possible to run both kde & gnome on a system.  I've done it in the past.
[06:43] <flaccid_> !gnome | the-erm
[06:43] <flaccid_> sorry that doesn't help.
[06:43] <the-erm> ubottu: Ya a window system like kde.
[06:43] <the-erm> I'd like to play with it.
[06:43] <flaccid_> the-erm: install the pkg gnome
[06:44] <flaccid_> you need universe enabled
[06:45] <the-erm> flaccid_: adept has BREAK(install) next to it.
[06:45] <the-erm> so I'm not sure that's a good move.
[06:45] <the-erm> I don't want to loose kde,  Just have the ability to play in gnome once in a while.
[06:50] <flaccid_> the-erm: do it from konsole so you can see the problem
[06:50] <the-erm> It appears the secret is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:51] <flaccid_> ah yeah sorry forgout that!
[07:00] <CRQuaker> how come
[07:00] <CRQuaker> there's someone else
[07:00] <CRQuaker> using my nickname?
[07:00] <CRQuaker> odd
[07:00] <CRQuaker> anyway
[07:00] <CRQuaker> i tried again to do the disk check for defects
[07:00] <CRQuaker> and it said
[07:00] <truefx> hi guys
[07:01] <CRQuaker> ./install/mt86plus was bad
[07:01] <CRQuaker> can i install it anyway and fix it later?
[07:01] <truefx> how can i mv only directories from a given directory to another directory recursively ?
[07:01] <truefx> i dont wanna move any other files
[07:02] <truefx> ok let me pput it another way . I am in a directory where tar.gz files and their extracted directories exists
[07:02] <truefx> and i wanto move those directories to another directory without moving tar.gz fiels
[07:02] <truefx> how can i do that ?
[07:03] <truefx> mv -d * destination ?
[07:03] <truefx> im newbie
[07:04] <ds187> truefx: i think mv doesn't have an option for that
[07:04] <ds187> you could use "find" to search for the dirs and then pipe them to xargs
[07:04] <CRQuaker> ok i found
[07:04] <truefx> how ?
[07:05] <CRQuaker> I have found an old kubuntu cd i had, it says 5.10 can i upgrade from it?
[07:05] <CRQuaker> to the latest version that is
[07:06] <flaccid_> CRQuaker: in theory yes, but it probably wont be easy
[07:06] <CRQuaker> great
[07:06] <CRQuaker> i'm going to install this baby
[07:06] <CRQuaker> brb
[07:06] <ds187> truefx: a "find /path/to/dir -type d " should give you the dirs
[07:07] <flaccid_> truefx: you could use mv or just use konqueror or dolphin and move then with mouse
[07:07] <truefx> find /path -type d | xargs | mv - /destination ?
[07:10] <ds187> truefx: the second pipe is too much i think............but please try it first with some unimportant data :-)
[07:20] <truefx> ok guys
[07:20] <truefx> another quesiton
[07:20] <truefx> in a folder i ve got lots of tar.gz files and i wnat to decomppres them
[07:20] <truefx> but i cant do that with tar zxvf  *
[07:20] <truefx> what do i have to do ?
[07:21] <truefx> each tar.gz files should be decompressed to their own hiearchy not in a folder
[07:25] <flaccid_> !enter | truefx
[07:26] <flaccid_> they should work with tar zxvf otherwise you can use ark
[07:26] <truefx> !response
[07:27] <flaccid_> truefx: this shows you how to do wildcards with tar as it doesn't accept them natively: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/tar.html
[07:29] <truefx> ive found a solution ls *.gz |perl -wnle 'system("tar zxvf $_")'
[07:29] <truefx> i dont know whether or not it's the best but effective
[07:29] <flaccid_> lol
[07:29] <flaccid_> its certainly not
[07:59] <StephenZ> Quick question.
[08:00] <StephenZ> What's the difference, in "idiot straight from Windows" terms, between KDE 4 Remix and Hardy Heron?
[08:00] <flaccid_> the remix has kde4 as well
[08:00] <StephenZ> I have no idea what that means.
[08:01] <StephenZ> What is KDE4?
[08:01] <flaccid_> !kde
[08:01] <StephenZ> !kde4
[08:01] <flaccid_> its the desktop environment kubuntu uses, thus the K..
[08:02] <StephenZ> Right. Then the Kubuntu Hardy Heron is... Just Ubuntu?
[08:02] <flaccid_> ubuntu uses Gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[08:02] <flaccid_> nah, its kde3
[08:02] <StephenZ> Ahh.
[08:02] <flaccid_> :)
[08:03] <StephenZ> So the Remix version will come with the newer KDE - this is probably answered in extensive documentation, but is it possible to use KDE3 rather than KDE4 (for whatever reason) if you nab the Remix?
[08:03] <ioioio> Hi
[08:03] <ioioio> ﻿I have a BIG problem trying to install kubuntu. When I load Gparted, it doesn't show any partition I have....although they appear in terminal if I write "fdisk -l". What should I do?
[08:04] <flaccid_> StephenZ: yeah you can have both installed and just select which one from the login screen; i actually have 4 KDEs installed atm like that :)
[08:04] <StephenZ> Nice. Thanks.
[08:05] <flaccid_> ioioio: give qtparted a shot out of chance or use fdisk itself
[08:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: you there?
[08:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> I put in the kubuntu 5.10 install cd, then i created a new partition so tha my system is 40 gb ntsf and 40 free space, but it came to a point in which it said that all the information in the partitions will be deleted including the ones that weren't going to be formatted(swap and ext3) so i stopped, how do i avoid it deleting my windows files?
[08:13] <ioioio> Here I am
[08:14] <ioioio> what were you saying about gparted?
[08:16] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: from memory there is an option to do it manual in the installer should it doesn't use the full disk
[08:16] <flaccid_> ioioio: install qtparted
[08:16] <flaccid_> !info qtparted > ioioio
[08:16] <ioioio> Ok, and then?
[08:16] <ioioio> it is just similar to gparted?
[08:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: manual? explain, i know nothing about codes or a text only environment
[08:19] <flaccid_> ioioio: yep
[08:19] <ioioio> so what?
[08:19] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: you need to learn how to use fdisk. something i dont feel like helping with :(
[08:19] <flaccid_> ioioio: so what?
[08:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> fdisk?
[08:20] <ioioio> yeah
[08:20] <ioioio> already done
[08:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid:fdisk=?
[08:20] <ioioio> It shows the partition
[08:20] <ioioio> but on Gparted they Do not appear
[08:20] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: yes fdisk
[08:20] <flaccid_> ioioio: do they show in qtparted?
[08:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, so step by step what do i need to keep my windows and install kubuntu from the manual run
[08:21] <efasser> Guys why when i try to play games like Glest it doesn't go to the full screen?
[08:21] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: i don't want to help someone with a legacy ubuntu sorry
[08:21] <josef_> guys i like too try xfce on my kubuntu, what is the syntax in apt-get or command
[08:22] <efasser> Could it be becouse of emerald?
[08:22] <ioioio> a moment and I try with qparted, ok'
[08:22] <flaccid_> josef_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <ioioio> Can you gimme the command to install qparted?
[08:23] <josef_> flaccid_ if i go back to kde how can i do that
[08:23] <flaccid_> josef_: just select kde from the login screen. it can stay installed..
[08:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: legacy? i don't get what you mean by that, spanish is my first languge
[08:23] <flaccid_> ioioio: sudo apt-get install qtparted after enabling the correct repos
[08:23] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: old and unsupported
[08:24] <ioioio> OK
[08:24] <ioioio> thansk
[08:24] <josef_> flaccid_ ok thanks for the info
[08:24] <flaccid_> i only started using ubuntu from 6.06 so i've never used anything before that. im not comfortable in doing that
[08:24] <ioioio> I'm trying
[08:24] <flaccid_> !info qtparted | josef_
[08:24] <flaccid_> ioioio: so universe must enabled to install it if its not already installed
[08:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> well...i don't want to have to wait 16 weeks to get the new version
[08:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> is there anyone else here that may help?
[08:25] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: you have a physical limitation
[08:25] <ioioio> "Impossible to find qparted"
[08:25] <flaccid_> ioioio: how so?
[08:25] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: what options does the installer give you for partition?
[08:27] <ioioio> flaccid_: I don't know what to do...explain that
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> it says erase partition, create new partition, i created a new partition which has 40 gb bt then it said it had to format and htat it would erase all hte files i had on all partitions
[08:27] <flaccid_> ioioio: goto adept and enable the universe repository from manage repositories and then you should be able to install it after fetching updates
[08:28] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: can't you just create a new partition the use that without it wanting to erase the whole thing? you could also use qtparted to do it manually if you wanted if the installer has this limitation
[08:28] <flaccid_> that would save you doing it manual with fdisk.
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> what's qtparted? can i run it on windows?
[08:29] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: its a gui partitioning program that you can run from the livecd but not windows
[08:29] <flaccid_> you have to install it like ioioio is trying to do
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> hmm the kubuntu one has one cd only, the installation, no live cd like on ubuntu
[08:30] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: yep just checked that. it wasn't livecd until dapper and there doesn't seem to be repos available anymore
[08:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> repos?
[08:32] <flaccid_> !repos | CostaRicanQuaker
[08:33] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: in this case look up an fdisk tutorial after backing up your disk. i don't feel comfortable in helping a newbie manually partitioning in case of lost data
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm already in the process of backing up
[08:34] <flaccid_> ok try an fdisk tutorial then
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i cna't download programs with the kubuntu copy i have?
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> the problem i got with my iso copy disk was ./install/mt86plus
[08:39] <flaccid_> that just looks like the memtest
[08:39] <flaccid_> but i don't see 5.10 repos anymore...
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> what if i attempted to install it anyway and then fix it once it's set
[08:39] <flaccid_> sure. i mean its up to you..
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> so thatmeans there's no way i can update from 5.10?
[08:40] <flaccid_> no. it means you can upgrade from it but the repos for 5.10 doesn't seem to exist
[08:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> and do you know how to help with that corrupted file?
[08:40] <flaccid_> get another cd
[08:40] <flaccid_> if you cannot download and burn, then like i said before you have a physical limitation. its like trying to install some OS and expecting no problems..
[08:41] <flaccid_> +old
[08:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> i tried another cd(if you refer to the corrupted file error) and otherwise, you mean if i do install the 5.10 the only way i will be able to upgrade is with another cd?
[08:41] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: no. im saying there is no 5.10 repos anymore.
[08:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> the repos are from the link you showed me apparently online folders from where one can download files without having to access and ftp or webpage but just entering a command
[08:43] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: either.
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> is there an antivirus which can be ran / updated / etc via a webfrontend?
[08:45] <pixel683> I'm new to ubuntu: is there a decent number of non-gnome frontends for administrating w/ kubuntu/kde on ubuntu, or am I stuck with the gnome tools for that?
[08:45] <ik_> i think something like kaspersky server edition, but im not sure
[08:45] <pixel683> I know that there's the package manager... anything else?
[08:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: if i installed kubuntu
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> pixel683: install kde and choose that as your desktop environment
[08:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> with the fualty cd will i be able to fix it with assist from here?
[08:46] <pixel683> ActionParsnip: yes, I know how to install it :D
[08:46] <pixel683> ActionParsnip: I'm wondering if there are any kde admin tools similar to those that are in the ubuntu gnome panel
[08:46] <pixel683> editing users, hardware driver prefs, etc
[08:46] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: probably not.
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> pixel683: settings manager in kde is pretty decent
[08:47] <ds187> pixel683: there is the KDE Kontrol Center
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> is there a web frontended AV for linux?
[08:48] <flaccid_> try google mr parsnip
[08:48] <pixel683> ActionParsnip: well, I guess I'll just install and see if it has that stuff ;)
[08:49] <pixel683> thanks!
[08:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[08:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> then there's no other thing but to wait till i get the new kubuntu cds
[08:50] <flaccid_> well thats not technicaly true CostaRicanQuaker but thats what you should do with your skillset
[08:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> i've a question though, how do i undo the partition as now i've only have a few GB left in windows
[08:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> as in how do i get the ntsf partition to enlarge without losing info
[08:50] <flaccid_> you cannot undo partitions after written, you can only add, delete or modify
[08:50] <flaccid_> CostaRicanQuaker: use a windows program.
[08:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> this sucks
[08:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> such a bummer
[08:53] <flaccid_> physical limitation. it would be worse if you had windows 3.x or something :p
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> flaccid_: do you know an AV for linux with a web frontend??
[08:54] <flaccid_> no, if i did i would of responded to your annoying repetition by now :)
[08:54] <ik_> ^^
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> flaccid_: sorry man, figured you were busy busy busy
[08:55] <flaccid_> i wish i was actually
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> hehe wanna clear some free space of my servers. I have alerts ;)
[08:56] <ik_> actionparsnip: did you post your question on a forum?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> ik_: ive trawled forums but im just fielding the monday morning rush of stuff i gots to do
[08:57] <flaccid_> ActionParsnip: only if you let me run the one magical command we all love
[08:59] <ik_> i have a question: im new to kopete, and i tried to import a emoticon, but it said permission denied. do i need to start it in sudo mode?
[08:59] <raj3186> yea same , i was gonna ask that
[08:59] <raj3186> :D
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> flaccid_: hehe
[08:59] <ik_> ow lol, i gtg, lunchbreak here ^^
[08:59] <raj3186> ok i will get the answer
[08:59] <raj3186> dont worry :D
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ik_: 2 things, you dont run graphical apps with sudo, use gksudo and you should never run web facing apps as root
[09:00] <ik_> actionparsnip: ok, thx. i gtg now, cya
[09:14] <ik_> bk
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:15] <ik_> actionparsnip: if i dont run it in sudo, then how do i get enough permissions to add new smileys?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ik_: do you have access to the files as user?
[09:15] <ik_> yep
[09:15] <flaccid_> ik_: check that you own your everything in ~/.kde
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ik_: can you open them in some image editor etc
[09:16] <ik_> at least, i think so, lemme check..
[09:16]  * ActionParsnip bets its permissions ;)
[09:17] <ik_> where's that stupid map >.< lol
[09:19]  * ik_ cant find the stupid folder >.>
[09:20] <flaccid_> ~/.kde is hidden
[09:20] <ik_> ^.^
[09:20] <ik_> i would like to have known that BEFORE i started searching 0.o
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ik_: ls -a shows all hidden files
[09:21] <ik_> k
[09:21] <flaccid_> no need to search, just goto ~/.kde in konqueror or dolphin and make sure show hidden files is on :)
[09:21] <ik_> kk
[09:22] <ik_> owner can modify/read, owner is ik
[09:22] <flaccid_> do you know the file in question?
[09:23] <ik_> something with kopete i guess, lemme try to recreate the problem..
[09:23] <flaccid_> it could be anymore in ~/.kde but likely in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[09:23] <ik_> .kde/share/emoticons/default
[09:24] <ik_> i cant find emoticons ^^
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> ik_: how did you apply the smileys?
[09:26] <ik_> in a chat window->right click on the smiley->import smiley->type name->xd->permission denied
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> ik_: ok so where are the smileys located?
[09:26] <ik_> it says it should be in .kde/share/smileys/default
[09:27] <ik_> but i cant find the folder  "smileys"
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ik_: yeah should be, but where have you actually put them?
[09:27] <ik_> or wait, "emoticons"
[09:27] <ik_> dunno, kopete does that for me >.<
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ik_: didnt you download them from the web?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> in a tar.gz file probably?
[09:28] <ik_> noop, i right click on them inside a chat window
[09:28] <ik_> he got a nice smiley, then i want it, i right click on it, and click on "import"
[09:28] <ik_> but that doesnt work ^^
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ik_: so they are offered and you chose which one you wanted, then it downloaded from the web automatically?
[09:29] <ik_> kopete doesn't download them from the web, but via a connection through the MSN protecol. (did i mension i used the MSN protocol?, well, NOW i did 0.o)
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> id go to kde-look.org and download the file and import manually
[09:30] <ik_> someone uses nice smiley, i want that smiley, i click on it, then on import, i have to insert a name for it, then it says writing failed.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> oh so its one that someone has used and you are essentially copying it off them
[09:31] <ik_> yes! that is it.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> i see
[09:31] <ik_> :-3
[09:32] <ik_> different frequentie ^^
[09:32] <flaccid> i had a crash. wrong owner was it?
[09:32] <ik_> still didnt solve it flaccid.
[09:32] <flaccid> search google with your error and ask in #kopete
[09:32] <ik_> as far as i can see the place he wants to put the smileys doesnt exist
[09:32] <flaccid> he?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: basically when someone on MSN sends a nonstandard smiley it is shown and he wants to leech it off them so he can use it in future
[09:33] <ik_> jep.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> but s/he's getting permission errors
[09:33] <flaccid> well #kopete should be able to easily answer that..
[09:33] <ik_> for writing the config, ok, ill join that channel
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> indeed, id head that way
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> or use pidgin :)
[09:34] <ik_> lol, or use the MS messenger through wine ^^
[09:34] <ik_> but im too lazy for that lol
[09:34] <ik_> thx for the help guys, cya later
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> the live messenger doesnt go but the older one does fine
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> np bro
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> if you get a fix, whack it in the forums
[09:35] <flaccid> well i have no problem getting custom emoticons in kopete so you obviously have a perm issue somewhere
[09:35] <ik_> k
[09:35] <flaccid> they should be in /usr/share/emoticons but i don't know about the custom ones from msn..
[09:36] <se7en> !info mbr
[09:36] <flaccid> maybe they are only cached, not sure. it would have to be in ~/.kde somewhere because the user won't have write perms outside of that
[09:37] <lg188> hello
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> !hi lg188
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> !hi | lg188
[09:37] <ik_> standard they are only cached, but you can add them by copying them from the cache into your database as a smiley. (i think 0.o)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> ik_: i believe so
[09:37] <lg188> ActionParsnip: i knwo i'm welcome
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> all are welcome, except trolls
[09:37] <lg188> should be a kind of stupid if i won't
[09:37] <lg188> ^
[09:38] <lg188> ^^
[09:38] <lg188> i got a litle problem
[09:38] <flaccid> !enter | lg188
[09:38] <lg188> stop using tha factoid i'm not a noob
[09:38] <flaccid> then stop doing it lg188
[09:39] <ik_> lol.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> lg188: ask away bro, wassup?
[09:39] <lg188> why you ned to use the . as en dof the sentence ?
[09:39] <lg188> all well
[09:39] <lg188> .
[09:40] <flaccid> you are still doing it lg188
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> it breaks up a sentance so it reads correctly
[09:40] <lg188> oh kk.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> you cannot start a sentance with and either
[09:40] <flaccid> there are many possible separators, like comma; semi-colon etc.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> except in poetry
[09:41] <eddieftw> !offtopic
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> was wondering who was going to trigger that
[09:41] <lg188> so , my problem is : if i log on , the size of my screen always is on 640x400 when logon its back good ;but i like to logon on a well screen
[09:42] <flaccid> we were not offtopic, its part of the channel rules
[09:42] <lg188> !dutch
[09:42] <ik_> lol, nl FTW :-3
[09:42] <flaccid> lg188: which is it?
[09:42] <lg188> ?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> lg188: make sure the left most resolution in your xorg.conf is the one you want to use as logon.
[09:42] <ik_> en ik hou ook van koffie... :-3
[09:42] <ds187> hehe
[09:43] <flaccid> you say you logon and you get that res, then you logon and its back good?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> lg188: even easier is to just have one resolution
[09:43] <lg188> ActionParsnip: wher is dat file ?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> lg188: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:43] <lg188> i would likethat ActionParsnip but the kd eis worling against
[09:43] <lg188> srry about that.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> make a backup first
[09:43] <flaccid> lg188: if there are no resolutions in xorg.conf see /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the problem
[09:44] <lg188> kk
[09:45] <lg188> ActionParsnip: where in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:46] <flaccid> brb
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> check under Section "Screen"
[09:46] <lg188> kk ActionParsnip
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> you'll need kdesudo kate to edit it
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> lg188: http://brenta.free.fr/IMG/txt/xorg.txt
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> lg188: thats a good example
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> see all the resolutions there
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> the leftmost one is 1152x768, this guys logon screen will be at that resolution
[09:50] <lg188> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22311/
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> so your logon screen will be at 800x600
[09:52] <lg188> oh
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> if you want it a 1024x768 then if you move the resolution to the leftmost position that will be the res
[09:52] <lg188> ActionParsnip: howto get it higher ?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> or you can simply remove all the resolutions other than the one you use
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> lg188: cut "1024x768@85" and put it to the left of "800x600@60"
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> then save and reboot
[09:53] <flaccid> and if you take out all of them, if it works properly it will use the max possible
[09:53] <lg188> kk
[09:54] <ik_> "1024x768@85" also sets the refresh rate to 85hz right?
[09:55] <lg188> modes  "1280x1024@75"
[09:55] <lg188> yes ik_
[09:56] <ik_> k thx.
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> its easier to pull all of the resolutions out and only leave the one you use
[10:00] <lg188> how to edit in kate as user and save as root ?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> lg188: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf &
[10:01] <lg188> i alredy edited it now how to save as root
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> lg188: you cant you have to open it as root, the other way is to save it to ~/ then sudo cp it over
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> lg188: did you make a backup before you editted it too?
[10:01] <lg188> nope
[10:02] <lg188> didn't save
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> lg188: dude, if you screw that file your system wont boot good
[10:02] <lg188> so no problem
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> lg188: sweet
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> lg188: dude if you are playing with massively sensitive files like xorg.conf
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> lg188: make a damn backup as it'll save heartache later
[10:02] <lg188> kk
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> lg188: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> takes seconds, saves bloodpressure
[10:03] <lg188> ?
[10:03] <ik_> lol
[10:03] <titanix88> lg188: i think it will be a prob for you as you dont seem to be much familiar with command line. :D
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> lg188: copy that command, you will then have an identical copy of xorg.conf that we know works
[10:04] <lg188> oh
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> lg188: if it goes wrong you can always copy back
[10:04] <lg188> did taht already
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> lg188: then run kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> and you can edit as root
[10:05] <lg188> bash: kdesudo: command not found
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> lg188: kdesu instead
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> gui apps use kdesu, cli apps use sudo
[10:06] <lg188> kk
[10:07] <lg188> now reboot ?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> if you have done all your xorg.conf settings, yes save and reboot
[10:07] <lg188> kk
[10:07] <lg188> cu
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> peace
[10:09] <titanix88> ActionParsnip: hope s/he comes back...
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> well hehas a backup and should use loaf and roll back
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> should come up though unless s/he's really gone to town
[10:13] <lg188> hello i'm back
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> lg188: all good?
[10:13] <lg188> !dutch
[10:13] <lg188> yep ActionParsnip
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> winner
[10:14]  * ActionParsnip takes a cookie
[10:14]  * lg188 send coookie with ssh to server
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> lg188: and now you are slightly wiser
[10:14] <lg188> yes
[10:14] <lg188> thanks
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> np bro, help where you can
[10:14] <lg188> i better don't delete d teh backup yet
[10:15] <titanix88> congrats to both of you. :D
[10:15] <lg188> ?
[10:15] <lg188> thanks titanix88
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> lg188: always keep that backup, you could even make a new backup of the current xorg.conf once you know what you have is ok
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> i always have 2, the very first xorg.conf thats made and the once im using onceit setup
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> lg188: if you fluff your xorg.conf, boot to recovery mode and copy the backup over the current xorg.conf
[10:17] <lg188> euh command ?
[10:17] <lg188> i'l save it to an file in my hoeme directory
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> lg188: fine
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> lg to restore you'd use sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf but you dont need it as your settings are fnie :D
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> *fine
[10:19] <lg188> nope but if i did somthign wrong i can always reste it
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> absolutely
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> lg188: do it with all conf files as they are simple text files so take very little space
[10:20] <lg188> kk
[10:22] <lg188> oh btw : my (hardware) desktop card is't working
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> desktop card?
[10:22] <lg188> it's a Belkin Wireless g desktop card
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> lg188: what model?
[10:22] <lg188> yes wifi
[10:23] <lg188> F5D7000df
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> lg188: you need ndiswrapper for that bro
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> it uses a broadcom annoyance
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> i hate broadcom
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> lots
[10:24] <lg188> euh isntalled from other helping guys i don't actual hget it how it worek s
[10:24] <lg188> ...
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | lg188
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> you need the xp driver and ndiswrapper
[10:26] <lg188> i ahe the xpdriver on cd
[10:28] <iancrowther> has anyone successfully got a Huewai 220 working with Kubuntu? if so can you point me to the tutorial as im having some touble
[10:29] <machiel> so if  i had to buy an accespoint and a pci-card what will be working with 8.04
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | machiel
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> machiel: i use one of these: http://efficientpc.co.uk/components/wg311t/
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> machiel: works out of the box
[10:30] <lg188> ActionParsnip: euh i cant find what i search and where i'm searching for ?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> lg188: install ndiswrapper then follow this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide/
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> lg188: scroll down to Using NdisWrapper to Install the Drivers
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> about 70% of the way down
[10:32] <lg188> kk
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> lg188: it says to run gksu gedit /etc/modules, you will need kdesu kate
[10:33] <lg188> bash: gksu: command not found
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> lg188: read above
[10:33] <machiel> ubottu & ActionParship thnx, will study it a bit
[10:34] <machiel> whatthe
[10:34] <lg188> obuttu actual you ar smart
[10:34] <lg188> oh ActionParsnip got it
[10:35] <lg188> what with modules file ?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> lg188: how do you mean?
[10:37] <lg188> ActionParsnip:  that command opend an file modules
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> lg188: yes, keep reading the walkthrough
[10:38] <lg188> oh
[10:38] <lg188> damn the cd driver is stuck
[10:39] <lg188> driver i mean  hardware
[10:40] <lg188> it's working now but it wont open
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> what wont?
[10:40] <lg188> here we go
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> k
[10:43]  * ActionParsnip waits
[10:44] <lg188> noooo
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sup
[10:44] <lg188> i won't work
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> lg188: did you reboot?
[10:44] <lg188> oph nope good idea
[10:44] <lg188> cu in 5min
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> the walkthrough says to reboot
[10:45]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[10:51] <elitemind> hey guys i did a base install with kde i was wondering what package do i need to install, To have kde automatically mount my drives like usb and such
[10:51] <flaccid> elitemind: none. hald should already be installed
[10:52] <elitemind> aww okay
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: its already there for you, just add stuff to /etc/fstab and it'll mount
[10:52] <flaccid> no need for fstab
[10:52] <elitemind> ?
[10:52]  * ActionParsnip seconds ?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> lg188: better?
[10:53] <elitemind> its a total base install i did a cli installation. then Apt-get install kdebase
[10:53] <lg188> heu ?
[10:53] <flaccid> elitemind: hal (kde) will prompt you when you insert a valid usb disk and in system settings there is 'Disks & Filesystems' for permanent mount/ad hoc mounting
[10:53] <lg188> let me check
[10:53] <elitemind> let me try one of my usb's
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: ahh i see
[10:53] <flaccid> elitemind: the wont give hal. best to install the meta pkg kubuntu-desktop to get it all
[10:53] <flaccid> the=that
[10:54] <elitemind> k
[10:54] <lg188> nope
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> lg188: theres another thing to do I beliueve, you need to put a 1 in a file to turn it on
[10:55] <lg188> ?
[10:55] <lg188> oh where
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> let me find it
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> lg188: the reboot loaded the ndiswrapper module for you
[10:56] <lg188> yes
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> lg188: do you get any output from iwlist scanning
[10:57] <lg188> usage list
[10:57] <josef_> guys how can i use my bluetooth is not function very well i mean pairing devices
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> lg188: try sudo ndiswrapper -ma
[10:58] <lg188> also usage
[10:59] <flaccid> as in its claiming its not valid params?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: whats the line where you echo 1 to some file someplace
[10:59] <flaccid> not sure what you mean mr p
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lg188: try iwlist wlan0
[11:00] <flaccid> iwlist scan and iwlist scanning both should work
[11:00] <lg188> iwlist: unknown command `wlan0'
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lg188: if you run ifconfig can you see wlan0
[11:01] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: what you mean about the echo 1 thing?
[11:01] <lg188> nope
[11:01] <lg188> hard ahs no heartbeat i think
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: you have to echo the character 1 into a file somewhere to turn on the wireless with ndiswrapper
[11:01] <lg188> has*
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> i believe
[11:01] <lg188> it's dead
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> lg188: is it present in lsusb or lspci
[11:02] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: oh i aint used it much. you need to at least load the driver with ndiswrapper iirc
[11:03] <flaccid> but never heard of that 1 thing
[11:03] <lg188> nope
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> lg188: sounds dead if its not in there, is there a switch someplace to enable wireless
[11:03] <flaccid> which card and driver is this?
[11:04] <lg188> ActionParsnip: where ?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> lg188: on the card or the system itself
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> lg188: what do you get from ndiswrapper -l (ell, not eye)
[11:05] <lg188> Installed ndis drivers:
[11:05] <lg188> neti2220        invalid driver!
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> theres your bad
[11:06] <lg188> ?
[11:06] <flaccid> whats a neti2220?
[11:06] <lg188> idk
[11:06] <lg188> i see it befor but id dont now when
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: his driver
[11:07] <lg188> but it isn't
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> lg188: go to the manufacturers site and get the latest
[11:07] <flaccid> lg188: is your card listed in lscpi or is it usb?
[11:07] <lg188> nope
[11:08] <flaccid> lg188: what is the model of the card?
[11:08] <lg188> flaccid: nope
[11:08] <lg188> f5d7000df
[11:08] <flaccid> made by who?
[11:08] <lg188> or somthing
[11:08] <lg188> belkin
[11:08] <flaccid> what is the connectivity?
[11:09] <lg188> flaccid: ?
[11:09] <lg188> wifi :s
[11:09] <flaccid> is it usb, pc-card, pci etc. ?
[11:10] <lg188> pci
[11:10] <lg188> i think
[11:10] <flaccid> lg188: pastebin your lscpi please
[11:11] <lg188> kk
[11:12] <lg188> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22318/
[11:12] <flaccid> i believe that the belkin is a broadcom
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> lg188: can we have lsusb too
[11:13] <lg188> euh what is other choise than broadcom ?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> lg188: atheros, intel
[11:14] <lg188> tha is empty al
[11:14] <lg188> oh kk
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> hmm, sounds hosed
[11:14] <flaccid> lg188: there is many choices, but don't we want to fix this one? i don't see it in your lscpi , is it plugged in?
[11:14] <lg188> broadcom i agree
[11:14] <lg188> yes
[11:14]  * ActionParsnip REALLY hatess broadcom
[11:14] <flaccid> lg188: you could pastebin lshw so we can see the whole system to see if its in there...
[11:14]  * flaccid agrees with the parsnip
[11:14] <lg188> da byed it
[11:14] <lg188> not me
[11:15] <lg188> ded*
[11:15] <lg188> dad*
[11:15] <flaccid> i avoid belkin and broadcom out of experience. i tend to go for linksys depending on the chipset in the product. intel is probably the best but they do chips and its not in many pci devices etc..
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> netgear and linksys
[11:16] <flaccid> still people have reported your card to work, but it doesn't appear to be plugged in atm lol. need to check full lshw to make sure
[11:16] <flaccid> netgear = bad routers, the rest is not bad
[11:16] <lg188> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22319/
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> i have a linksys router and a netgear wifi pci that works out of the box
[11:17] <flaccid> lg188: is this a desktop pc ?
[11:17] <lg188> yes
[11:17] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: yeah im on the wrt-54gl w/ dd-wrt firmware which is nice
[11:17] <flaccid> cool
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> i got the same router but with stock fware
[11:19]  * lg188 hungry and nervuse
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> lg188: how long you had the card?
[11:19] <lg188> i'm getting soem soupe for lunch if you excuse me
[11:19] <flaccid> lg188: ok, i went over it a few times i only see your pci fast ethernet, no wireless
[11:19] <lg188> it's quit new
[11:20] <lg188> less than 3minthd
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> lg188: take it back and get something compatible
[11:20] <lg188> months
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> check the hcl for clues
[11:20] <lg188> it won't work
[11:20] <lg188> hcl ?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> hardware compatibility list
[11:20] <flaccid> well this card has proven to work, yet it doesn't appear to be plugged in. it would show in lshw if it was, unless it is plugged in but some mega weird issue heh
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: maybe its usb settings in bios
[11:21] <flaccid> lg188: do you have another OS on this desktop?
[11:21] <flaccid> lg188: its not usb is it?
[11:21] <lg188> i'm starving from hunger
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: or old bios that needs updating
[11:21] <lg188> i only have kubuntu
[11:21] <lg188> it's pci
[11:22] <elitemind> anyone know how to hook up a psp to kubuntu?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[11:22]  * lg188 is getting a wierdd feeling in stomach and is getting a soup ready
[11:22] <lg188> afk
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: via what method?
[11:22] <elitemind> im having problems copying files over
[11:22] <flaccid> lg188: please check thats its plugged in properly or not faulty. linux is not detecting it on your bus at all
[11:22] <llutz> Moin
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> werd up llutz
[11:22] <elitemind> just mounting. then going through konqueror to move files over
[11:22] <flaccid> elitemind: usb
[11:22] <elitemind> yep
[11:23] <elitemind> what other ways are there?
[11:23] <flaccid> ask sony? i don't know of any other ways or why you would want another way heh
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP
[11:23] <lg188> tbbk
[11:23] <elitemind> i downloaded this program qpspmanager
[11:24] <elitemind> yep i went to that site
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> i know very little of psps
[11:24] <lg188> flaccid: im sure its plugged in corectly
[11:24] <elitemind> aww its okay
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: so what happens and what causes it to hppen
[11:25] <elitemind> ill figure er out some how. Either that or jump on my MS computer to do stuff.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> info please
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> tell us a nice story
[11:26] <elitemind> oh well qpspmanager it finds everything i make the path to the psp correct but it doesnt show the games in the transfer area. And to top it off im using a  asus eeepc so i cant even see the whole program :P
[11:26] <flaccid> lg188: pastebin your who /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog (in one paste is fine) and i'll inspect in detail to see if there is anything about it
[11:26] <flaccid> lol
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> eeepcs are awesome
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> so you got no games in transfer area
[11:27] <flaccid> yeah im on an asus w1000na . i would like a black eee pc dang!
[11:27] <elitemind> haha
[11:28] <elitemind> yes mine is very nice just a bit of a headache at times
[11:28] <flaccid> feel free to post me one for um err testing purposes :p
[11:28] <lg188> howto past copy in a ctl+alt+F1 console ?
[11:28] <elitemind> ill b back in a sec need to reboot
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: do they show with kdesudo qpspmanager?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: just to test
[11:29] <elitemind> nice
[11:29] <elitemind> just got me in tiem
[11:29] <flaccid> lg188: you can't to the X session. but you can redirect to a file like cat /var/log/syslog > /tmp/syslog.txt
[11:29] <elitemind> time
[11:29] <elitemind> one sec ill see
[11:29] <flaccid> which is kind of pointless because the file is accessible in X anyway like kate /var/log/syslog
[11:30] <lg188> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22322/ |syslog
[11:31] <elitemind> ran into a problem no space left on my drive i need to apt-get clean real quick
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: you'll need sudo for that
[11:32] <elitemind> freed up about 300 mb dpkg --configure -a
[11:32] <elitemind> sorry i did type sudo, i guess i should assume things :)
[11:32] <lg188> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22325/|messages
[11:32] <lg188> afk soupe
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> hehe its just so you know
[11:33] <elitemind> wow im missing alot of stuff.
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: how so?
[11:33] <elitemind> i just did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <lg188> bbk
[11:33] <elitemind> and it parsed a error not enough space now i finished :P
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> id try free some space dude
[11:34] <vipex> wohooo java is working:p I can play nowWoW
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> sounds like you have a very small / or you have too much junk on your drive
[11:34] <elitemind> 2 gigs
[11:34] <elitemind> :P
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> yep thought so
[11:34] <elitemind> not much room left haha
[11:35] <lg188> and flaccid
[11:35] <elitemind> i had to do a cli install
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: why is your partition so small?
[11:35] <elitemind> asus eeepc 2g surf
[11:35] <elitemind> :P
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> oh right
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> yeah the 4g is waaay worth it
[11:36] <elitemind> yep, i wish i had one right about now
[11:36] <flaccid> lg188: yeah give me a few mins to analyse as well
[11:36] <lg188> flaccid: kk
[11:36] <elitemind> im thinking about taking the solidate out of this and re soldering a 8 gig into it
[11:36] <flaccid> lol WoW doesn't use java he must mean rs2
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: get an SD card and move /home to it then you can use the space for more /
[11:36] <lg188> flaccid: take your time
[11:36] <elitemind> oh no ksudo
[11:36] <elitemind> just sudo
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> kdesudo
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> or kdesu
[11:37] <elitemind> aww
[11:37] <elitemind> no kdesudo
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> kdesu?
[11:38] <elitemind> fixing it now sudo apt-get install -f
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: you see eeeXUbuntu?
[11:39] <elitemind> okay now i have kdesudo
[11:39] <elitemind> yes, it too big
[11:39] <elitemind> i would have to mess witht the casper
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> yikes
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> damn small linux or puppy?
[11:40] <elitemind> nu uh i dont like anything with out apt-get
[11:41] <elitemind> and damn small is a pain too with .dsl files that are out dated.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> you can enable apt-get in DSL
[11:41] <elitemind> :P i have tried almost everything on this pc
[11:41] <vipex> any1 know how i install firefox 3.0?
[11:41] <elitemind> surprized the solidat still works
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !firefox3 | vipex
[11:42] <vipex> kk
[11:42] <elitemind> okay ActionParsnip kdesudo works with qpspmanager
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> vipex: i'll get you what i used to install
[11:42] <elitemind> now i am going to test it a bit
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> vipex: let me get you the lin
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> vipex: you on 32bit or 64bit?
[11:43] <vipex> ActionShip: 64
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> vipex: i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:43] <vipex> k
[11:44] <flaccid> hmm outdated factoid. vipex install pkg firefox and you will get fx3 stable
[11:44] <flaccid> Jucato: can you update factoid firefox3 please, its released now yeah?
[11:45] <vipex> i am now insralling.
[11:45] <vipex> installing*
[11:45] <vipex> flaccid: pkg?
[11:46] <flaccid> pkg = package
[11:46] <lg188> flaccid: is it ready ?
[11:46] <vipex> ok
[11:47] <flaccid> lg188: possible irq conflicts/issues. what exactly is plugged into your pci bus? please specify each device
[11:48] <elitemind> is there anyway to add a scroll bar to qpspmanager
[11:48] <lg188> onlyone thing i plugged in resting hardware is onboard
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> lg188: id check your bios settings
[11:48] <elitemind> i cant see the bottom of the program i am just off by maybe 1/4 inch
[11:48] <flaccid> lg188: can you try a different pci slot and reset bios to default ?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> elitemind: you can make the display "virtually" slightly longer
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> so the whole screen scrolls
[11:49] <flaccid> how does desktop effects go on the eee pc ?
[11:49] <lg188> x
[11:49] <elitemind> how do i do that?
[11:49] <lg188> 2X *
[11:49] <elitemind> that would be great
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: you mean the dreaded compiz?
[11:50] <lg188> i reaplced it
[11:50] <flaccid> yeah compiz fusion or kde4 desktop effects perhaps in kde4 when installed
[11:50] <flaccid> lg188: sorry?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> it does do them but its not too nice
[11:50] <minhaaj> my new kubuntu installation is strange. Adept manager doesnt display education and internet categories. It has different interface
[11:50] <minhaaj> my installed applications won't display in menu
[11:50] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: you have seen it on eee pc?
[11:50] <minhaaj> any idea ?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> minhaaj: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:50] <lg188> flaccid: i already replaced it 2X*
[11:51] <flaccid> minhaaj: like we said before there are no categories like that in adept.
[11:51] <minhaaj> i already have
[11:51] <minhaaj> let me try again
[11:51] <flaccid> minhaaj: also not all applications have a menu entry.
[11:51] <elitemind> actionParsnip how do i virtually it?
[11:51] <flaccid> lg188: replaced what?
[11:51] <lg188> the card
[11:51] <minhaaj> they did before i reinstalled windows and kubuntu through wine in old kubunutu
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkzTZleiJII
[11:52] <flaccid> lg188: my request was to change pci slots and check/change bios settings to default, not replace the card
[11:52] <minhaaj> how do you add entries for those then flaccid  ?
[11:52] <lg188> ?
[11:52] <flaccid> minhaaj: kmenueditor. right click kmenu
[11:52] <lg188> flaccid: hue how ?
[11:52] <flaccid> lg188: if you have more than 1 pci slot, move it to another one. and to get to bios its usually del or f2 on powerup - see your m/b doco
[11:53] <vipex> flaccid: i need install firefox from konsole like java?
[11:53] <nem> hey poeple, has anyone here ever got a logitech mediaplay mouse working?
[11:53] <flaccid> vipex: nah adept is fine
[11:53] <minhaaj> thats when you have these applications installed at all flaccid
[11:53] <minhaaj> i dont see my installed applications under any menu at all
[11:53] <vipex> flaccid:ok
[11:54] <flaccid> minhaaj: show us a screenshot or submit a bug
[11:54] <minhaaj> let me get done with upgrade first.
[11:54] <minhaaj> there are some new packages
[11:54] <minhaaj> thanks for help flaccid , ActionParsnip  :)
[11:54] <minhaaj> Linux rocks
[11:54] <flaccid> np
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> minhaaj: np
[11:55] <lg188> flaccid: so i restart bios screenand then pres F2 then change somthing with pci ?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> lg188: read your motherboard manual
[11:55] <lg188> kk
[11:55] <flaccid> lg188: usually reset to defaults option. and its not necessarily f2, it could be del or esc or another key
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> lg188: id just look around see if something looks weird, like something disabled
[11:55] <lg188> oh np
[11:56] <lg188> oh i'll check
[11:56] <lg188> cu you later
[11:57] <flaccid> users to check irq in bios is a bit hectic, how unfortunate..
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> usually helps to disable paralell ports and com ports
[11:58] <flaccid> they shouldn't conflict with irqs but
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> its less complication
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> i disabled my sata too as i dont use it
[11:59] <flaccid> unless you use them :p
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> i dont
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> pata for me
[12:11] <lg188> np
[12:11] <flaccid> lg188: at the moment
[12:11] <flaccid> um wb crew :p
[12:11] <lg188> kk
[12:11] <vipex> Omg Database locked - adeptmanager
[12:11] <flaccid> minhaaj: still you can make your reference of commands if you would like, i'd be insterested to how you set it out
[12:11] <flaccid> !adeptfix | vipex
[12:12] <lg188> how to update gtk ?
[12:12] <minhaaj> ok :)
[12:12] <flaccid> lg188: just update in adept
[12:13] <flaccid> minhaaj: you can even put it on the ubuntu wiki under community doco if you want to
[12:13] <minhaaj> oh thanks for the tip
[12:14] <flaccid> np
[12:14] <vipex> i got problems with Adept Manager.
[12:14] <ActionParsni1> lg188: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get clean
[12:14] <ActionParsni1> vipex: wassup?
[12:14] <vipex> Sup
[12:15] <ActionParsni1> vipex: you said adept is misbehaving
[12:15] <vipex> yh
[12:15] <ActionParsni1> vipex: whats it doing / saying / not doing
[12:15] <flaccid> better to just tell use the problem :)
[12:15] <lg188> ActionParsni1: thnaks
[12:15] <flaccid> -e
[12:16] <vipex> Adept Manager - The Kde crash handler...
[12:17] <flaccid> try it again, does it still crash?
[12:17] <ActionParsni1> vipex: just use CLI for upgrades and installs
[12:17] <vipex> ActionParsni1: CLI ?
[12:18] <ActionParsni1> vipex: command line interface / interpretter
[12:18] <ActionParsni1> !cli | vipex
[12:18] <uwe> oh hi I have a problem by installing google earth, can someone help me?
[12:18] <ik_> wtf, im at school (where we have 1gb/s fiber) and i only get 20kb/s download in adept >.<
[12:19] <ik_> uwe:  how did you try to install it
[12:19] <Tm_T> ik_: nownow, be nice with abreviations
[12:19] <uwe> via terminal
[12:19] <ActionParsni1> uwe: wassup?
[12:19] <ActionParsni1> uwe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195382
[12:19] <uwe> oh thank, I'll take a look short
[12:19] <ik_> tm_t: wtf is my standard abbreviaton :-3
[12:19] <ActionParsni1> uwe: run the installer with sudo
[12:20] <ik_> ups.
[12:20] <uwe> yah I did
[12:20] <uwe> look
[12:20] <uwe> if I run this bin file  as root
[12:20] <Tm_T> ik_: nownow
[12:21] <uwe> Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.2.205.5730..............................................................
[12:21] <uwe> No protocol specified
[12:21] <uwe> this appear
[12:21] <uwe> and not more
[12:21] <vipex> ActionnParsni1: But i want use adpt manager but its not working thts not normal...
[12:21] <flaccid> !googleearth | uwe
[12:21] <ik_> Tm_T: if i do something stupid, im a bit novice to linux ^^
[12:21] <flaccid> uwe: you don't need to do that you can install via repos as per above link
[12:22] <flaccid> sorry i mean with medibuntu
[12:22] <Tm_T> !etiquette > ik_
[12:22] <ActionParsni1> uwe: apparently you run it as user
[12:22] <ActionParsni1> uwe: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/760028/Main/755130
[12:22] <Tm_T> ik_: see private message
[12:22] <lg188> kbrick server users be carefull
[12:22] <minhaaj> yea its in repos
[12:22] <vipex>  ActionnParsni1: But i want use adpt manager but its not working thts not normal , do u know how i
[12:22] <uwe> root@uwe-desktop:/home/uwe/Desktop# <- is this not root?
[12:23] <flaccid> oh no
[12:23] <ik_> Tm_T: how do i open private message >.<
[12:23] <lg188> i said
[12:23] <vipex> can get it work
[12:23] <flaccid> someone tripped the cable again
[12:23] <ActionParsni1> uwe: do NOT log in as root, log in as your user and sudo / kdesudo when you need admin privs
[12:23] <ik_> Tm_T: nvm lol
[12:23] <flaccid> uwe: why don't you install it from Medibuntu, thats what i did and it worked fine.
[12:24] <uwe> what is medibuntu?
[12:24] <flaccid> !medibuntu | uwe
[12:24] <pzhar> Does anybody know how to disable special effects from Konsole?
[12:24] <ActionParsni1> pzhar: special effects like what?
[12:24] <flaccid> pzhar: kwin --replace
[12:24] <pzhar> hang on...
[12:24] <flaccid> im assuming compiz fusion
[12:25] <pzhar> the desktop effects in KDE 4
[12:25] <flaccid> wrong channel pzhar
[12:25] <flaccid> !kde4 | pzhar
[12:25] <uwe> how do I install medibuntu?
[12:26] <ActionParsni1> uwe: just add the repos and you can easily install plugins and codecs
[12:26] <pzhar> ok thanks.... actually i running KDE 4.1 nightly
[12:26] <flaccid> uwe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:26] <flaccid> it had a link on the first page ubottu pasted. i guess nobody reads here do they ;p
[12:27] <pzhar> how do you disable desktop effects in KDE3 via the Konsole
[12:27] <ActionParsni1> uwe: adding medibuntu repos will allow you to sudo apt-get install googleearth
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> flaccid,  huh? speak up - i cant hear you.
[12:27] <ActionParsni1> pzhar: kwin --replace
[12:27] <pzhar> ok thanks, ill try
[12:27] <flaccid> haha
[12:28] <uwe> mmhh I seee, thanks for explaing and giving this solution, I think I'm installing now XD
[12:28] <ActionParsni1> uwe: beauty! :D
[12:28] <flaccid> pzhar: [21:24] <flaccid> pzhar: kwin --replace   (if its compiz fusion)
[12:28] <HanDongSeong> Hi. I connected my graphic card to a TV (NTSC) via TV-OUT port, and the screen was fine while I was in CMOS, but it has gone crazy when KDM started
[12:28] <pzhar> well i see how it goes
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> HanDongSeong,  what video card?
[12:28] <HanDongSeong> I think I should take a look of some settings about video display but have no idea how to do it
[12:29] <uwe> error in installation
[12:29] <uwe> great
[12:29] <HanDongSeong> Dr_Willis: Radeon 9550
[12:29] <HanDongSeong> ATi
[12:29] <lg188> kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net is errorfull
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> HanDongSeong,  you did install the fglrx drivers allready? Ive not used ati and their tv out  in ages... the bot has some links with more info
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> !tvout | HanDongSeong
[12:29] <ActionParsni1> uwe: so if you chod u+x ./googleearthinstaller.sh (or whatever its called) you cant install as  regular user?
[12:29] <flaccid> im using ati and that kind of stuff is pretty normal heh
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> Tv Out and ATI cards.. can be a hassle.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> it can be weird with nvidia as well. :)
[12:30] <HanDongSeong> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll try that one
[12:31] <uwe> sadly no
[12:32] <ActionParsni1> uwe: what output do you get when you run it as regular user?
[12:32] <uwe> huh
[12:32] <uwe> something new happened
[12:32] <ActionParsni1> ?
[12:32]  * flaccid snores
[12:33] <uwe> even the instellation of medibuntu got an error, it seems I can install it now...
[12:33] <flaccid> if you cite errors, why not tell us the errors so we can help
[12:33] <ActionParsni1> uwe: cool
[12:35] <lg188> flaccid: euh so i need to give it back and take an compatible one
[12:35] <uwe> thanks a lot, you guys are awesome!
[12:36] <flaccid> np
[12:36] <flaccid> lg188: so like after all that it still aint detecting at all is what you are saying?
[12:36] <ActionParsni1> uwe: we try, and please dont log on as root
[12:36] <ActionParsni1> uwe: its asking for problems
[12:36] <uwe> I'll copy that
[12:37] <ActionParsni1> peace
[12:37] <lg188> yes flaccid
[12:37] <flaccid> lg188: unlucky for you :(
[12:37] <lg188> and that GTK+ isn't updated to 2.10
[12:37] <flaccid> um should it be?
[12:37]  * lg188 send a black picture to everyone 
[12:38] <lg188> hey hfsdo
[12:39] <minhaaj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22330/
[12:39] <minhaaj> i can't update
[12:39] <lg188> where is a list of compatible wificards ? flaccid
[12:39] <lg188> brb it's getting cold inside
[12:40] <minhaaj> it hits the block after 90%
[12:40] <ActionParsni1> !hcl | lg188
[12:40] <flaccid> minhaaj: something could be wrong with your internet connection
[12:40] <flaccid> !wireless | lg188
[12:40] <flaccid> that goes with the HardwareSupport to see how easy they are lg188
[12:40] <ik_> i have a very stupid question: how do i see if i got KDE4, and if i got KDE3, how do i get KDE4?
[12:41] <ActionParsni1> !kde4 | ik_
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> any kde app. has menus for about....
[12:41] <flaccid> ik_: see if you have kde4 packages installed in adept
[12:41] <timsen> hi, I partitioned my harddisk with cfdisk, now I want to find the new partition wihout rebooting the box, is there a command to rescan the disk for new partitions?
[12:41] <lg188> hu why is a link always opend in kate ?
[12:41] <minhaaj> yea i am experiencing slow browsing
[12:41] <lg188> brb
[12:42] <flaccid> timsen: um there is no need to do any scanning. do you want to mount this new fs (if you did format a fs onto it ) ?
[12:42] <timsen> yes, but the UUID needs to be created
[12:43] <flaccid> !uuid | timsen
[12:44] <flaccid> lg188: kate uses sessions which is probably what you mean
[12:44] <minhaaj_> i think somethings wrong with canonical server
[12:44] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: in what way?
[12:44] <minhaaj_> my updates are stuck at 90%
[12:44] <lg188> if i press a link i n thiss client kares opens and shjow the source of the page not the page
[12:44] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: cancel the update and run it again
[12:45] <minhaaj_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22330/
[12:45] <minhaaj_> i get this error
[12:45] <minhaaj_> i have tried couple of time ActionParsni1
[12:45] <pzhar> hi, i'm trying to disable my desktop effects in KDE4 via Konsole. So i put 'kwin --replace' into konsole and it said 'kwin:cannot connect to X server'
[12:45] <flaccid> minhaaj_: i telnetted to it fine just then so its probably your transient connection to it
[12:45] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: are you on the same computer now that you are updating?
[12:45] <minhaaj_> yes
[12:46] <flaccid> minhaaj_: you can disable that repos and enable it later
[12:46] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: you connected via a router?
[12:46] <pzhar> does anybody know how to fix this?
[12:46] <minhaaj_> huh ?
[12:46] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: how do you connect to the web?
[12:46] <flaccid> pzhar: thats not how you disable desktop effects in kde4 and this is not the channel for help on it.
[12:46] <minhaaj_> ethernet
[12:46] <minhaaj_> wired
[12:46] <minhaaj_> i am browsing on ff
[12:46] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: ok what does the ethernet connect to, a modem or a router
[12:46] <timsen> I found the command - partprobe
[12:47] <flaccid> minhaaj_: its most likely your route with upstream providers..
[12:47] <minhaaj_> modem
[12:47] <minhaaj_> adsl
[12:47] <minhaaj_> shiro
[12:47] <flaccid> !enter | minhaaj_
[12:47] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: ok, id reccommend turning that off for a few mins then turn it back on and reboot your system
[12:48] <ActionParsni1> minhaaj_: that will refresh all networking
[12:49] <lg188> can i use broadcomxx64 ??
[12:49] <timsen> thanks for help
[12:49] <lg188> 64*
[12:49] <minhaaj_> umm ok
[12:49] <minhaaj_> let me try adept first
[12:49] <lg188> 34*
[12:49] <lg188> 43**
[12:49] <ActionParsni1> HOUSE!
[12:49]  * ActionParsni1 laughs
[12:50] <lg188> ?
[12:50] <lg188> house ?
[12:51] <ActionParsni1> lg188: think of a game of bingo :D
[12:51] <lg188>  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
[12:51] <lg188> ohh
[12:52] <ActionParsni1> ;)
[12:52]  * ActionParsni1 catches the penny as it drops
[12:53]  * lg188 gives a cookie to all users 
[12:54] <lg188> bcmxx43 ? an driver ?
[12:54] <lg188> brb
[12:54]  * flaccid is back from a usual kde4 crash
[12:54] <flaccid> lg188: you fix the hardware issue?
[12:55] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: is kde4 close to official release?
[12:55] <lg188> nope
[12:55] <lg188> drivers for my model
[12:55] <lg188> 	
[12:55] <lg188> bcm43xx (or ndiswrapper)
[12:56] <lg188> oops
[12:56] <flaccid> lg188: yes i already established that before with a google search. can't use it if the card doesn't detect :)
[12:56] <lg188> ih thats not good
[12:56] <flaccid> ActionParsni1: its been released officially for quite a while now
[12:57] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: oh i thought it was still unofficial
[12:57] <ActionParsni1> cool
[12:57] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: what are you doing to kill it, its fine for me
[12:57] <lg188> but my dad is goign mad if he hears that i really hate it whne only 1 OS is suported
[12:57] <flaccid> ActionParsni1: using it.
[12:57] <flaccid> lg188: thats not your fault
[12:58] <lg188> ik
[12:58] <flaccid> ati fglrx doesn't help for example.
[12:58] <ActionParsni1> lg188: research first and buy whats supported
[12:58] <ActionParsni1> flaccid: yeah true
[12:58] <flaccid> lg188: at this point, your card is supported, but it seems faulty!
[12:58] <flaccid> faulty as in dead.
[12:59] <lg188> ?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> what was the exact chipset anyway? I missed it
[12:59] <ActionParsni1> i think its dead too, stab it in another pc, see if its ok
[12:59] <flaccid> it would be a good test to plug it into another computer or a computer with windows for example, lg188
[12:59] <ActionParsni1> Dr_Willis: some broadcom garbageg
[13:02] <flaccid> its the usual bcm43xx
[13:02] <lg188> hue it is mamby broke or what ?
[13:02] <flaccid> lg188: the card appears to be not working at all
[13:02] <lg188> my bro installed by a pro for windows
[13:02] <flaccid> a pro for windows huh
[13:02] <lg188> i have somùe pros here and i think it is just the card
[13:02] <lg188> nod linux
[13:02] <flaccid> pros ?
[13:02] <flaccid> yes its just the card from what we can tell
[13:02] <flaccid> belkin is unreliable for a start. i know that for a fact.
[13:02] <lg188> hehe thats not good
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsni1,  thanks for the clarification.. :)
[13:02] <flaccid> bad generalisation maybe. but that combined with broadcom is a bad combo. we have at least 1 user a day here on average have issues getting broadcom to work etc.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> From my reading of some ndiswrapper guides the other day.. there can be a Wide variation in bc43xx Stuff. :)
[13:02] <machiel> sorry guys, stupid question, what do you mean by "!hcl |" or "!kde4 |"
[13:02] <flaccid> machiel: they are bot calls to get factoids from the bot for information on topics
[13:03] <ActionParsni1> windows pros haha
[13:04] <ActionParsni1> machiel: it makes ubottu speak
[13:04] <ActionParsni1> machiel: try em
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> lg188,  does  lspci -n | grep '14e4:43'    show any info on the card?
[13:05] <flaccid> Dr_Willis: it didn't before at all. checked lspci and also the system logs, but the user did change something in bios now, but claims no change
[13:05] <machiel> thnx  flaccid & AP, thts clear
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> I would have to say theres a HW issue then as well..
[13:05] <lg188> Dr_Willis: just >
[13:05] <ActionParsni1> Dr_Willis: it doesnt show up in lspci, we've installed the windows driver in ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper is loaded at bootup
[13:05] <ActionParsni1> Dr_Willis: it just wont see the actual hardware
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> lg188: do you have any other usb ports?
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> lg188: or are you using a usb hub
[13:06] <lg188> usb port what is to do with that ?
[13:06] <flaccid> checking the system logs there appears to be possible irq problems but can't say for sure which is why i suggested changing pci slots but yeah
[13:06] <lg188> nope
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> lg188: its the hole you are plugging your usb wifi into
[13:06] <ActionParsni1> lg188: are there any others arounf your system?
[13:06] <lg188> i dint us usb
[13:07] <ActionParsni1> oh yeah its pci
[13:07] <ActionParsni1> durrrrr
[13:07] <lg188> dont use usb
[13:07] <flaccid> i reckon a good question is what is the best out-of-box pci wireless card chipset... thats hard to work out i reckon
[13:07] <ads_> hi i cant pastebin as i have a problem with konqueror    it wont install it says errors processing "/var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb"     how may i fix this????
[13:07] <ActionParsni1> id power off the system and move the card to a different pci slot
[13:08] <lg188> i did tha 2X already
[13:08] <flaccid> ads_: what are you trying to install/do ?
[13:08] <machiel> !dpkg | machiel
[13:08] <ActionParsni1> lg188: ok cool
[13:08] <flaccid> lg188: fyi i have had 3 dead belkin devices in my history and 1 was a pci wireless card..
[13:08] <flaccid> the other two were routers which i nearly threw out the window heh
[13:09] <ads_> flaccid:  i lost kde last night ive reinstalled it today but konqueror is broken   and when i try and reinstall it i get the error i just quoted any ideas?
[13:09] <flaccid> all were new etc.
[13:09] <ActionParsni1> lg188: id try it in another rig, if you get no joy then its screwed, you have 1 year parts warranty so you can easily take it back with no hassle
[13:09] <flaccid> ads_: pastebin output of sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[13:10] <ads_> flaccid:  i havent got kqueror  hence i cant get to a webpage!!
[13:11] <ads_> flaccid:  maybe i can send u the output in another channel? (create one)
[13:11] <lg188> kk
[13:12] <ads_> flaccid: join #helpMePLs    and i will paste there if you dont mind?
[13:12] <flaccid> ads_: you might need to install firefox or learn how to use pastebinit
[13:12] <flaccid> or simply paste the important lines here without flooding
[13:12] <ads_> flaccid: i cant install firefox either and yes i know how to use pastebin
[13:12] <flaccid> ads_: yeah or some other channel ok
[13:12] <flaccid> ads_: nah i was saying pastebinit :)
[13:14] <flaccid> !info kio-umountwrapper
[13:15] <besitzer__> wie kann ich programme bei linux installieren?
[13:15] <flaccid> ads_: ok so they have a common file but its different between the two packages which is technically a bug and you can submit one if you like by pasting that. to fix do this sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[13:15] <flaccid> !de | besitzer__
[13:17] <ads_> flaccid: thanks  ive pasted the result again :)
[13:18] <flaccid> ads_: do a sudo apt-get upgrade now and let me know result
[13:18] <ads_> flaccid: ok  btw  konqueror is loading now :)
[13:18] <flaccid> then it won't be long till its fixed :)
[13:18] <flaccid> need to make sure its all fixed up but
[13:18] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins && sudo apt-get upgrade to make sure
[13:22] <ads_> flaccid: thanks all fixed
[13:22] <flaccid> ok coolio np
[13:23] <ads_> flaccid: more fast help from you.. thanks again bye
[13:23] <lg188> are there some cool tricks ?
[13:23] <lg188> brb
[13:24] <lg188> bbk
[13:24] <lg188> like i knwo the alt+space
[13:24] <flaccid> what is alt + space?
[13:24] <lg188> and left mouse copy and midle is paste
[13:25] <lg188> katapult
[13:25] <flaccid>  i guess it depends which shortcuts you use
[13:25] <flaccid> oh yeah forgot about katapult
[13:25] <lg188> it's an auto on i think
[13:25] <flaccid> hmm not for me
[13:25] <flaccid> i have to run it first :)
[13:25] <lg188> oh
[13:30] <lg188> what is the meta button ?
[13:30] <flaccid> um usually windows key iirc
[13:30] <lg188> nope
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> windows = super key i thouhgt
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> meta = alt,
[13:30] <lg188> where is meta ?
[13:31] <lg188> nope Dr_Willis
[13:31] <flaccid> thats what i thought as well, but on my kde4 on my desktop yakuake believes its the windows key at least..
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> lg188,  nope to what exactly?
[13:31] <lg188> on keyboard wher is the meta key
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Theres really only 2 keys ig cule be. :)
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> The meta key is normally the alt key.  i belive. and emacs can use the esc key as a meta key.
[13:32] <lg188> nope esc is not alt is not
[13:32] <flaccid> we are both right : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> The key may be considered equivalent to the Macintosh's command key, which has the same location and similar function. On modern keyboards, it is usually emulated with Alt key or with the Windows key. As an alternative in some programs, Meta key is emulated by pressing and releasing the Esc key (see Emacs).
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> lg188,  it is to. :) in emacs
[13:33] <lg188> alt gr ?
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> on some  language keyboards
[13:34] <lg188> kk
[13:35]  * Dr_Willis is still looking for the  'any' key
[13:36] <ik_> >.<
[13:36] <lg188> http://kde-look.org/
[13:39] <lg188> hue how see kde version again ?
[13:40] <flaccid> lg188: kicker --version or goto help | about in any kde3 program
[13:40] <lg188> tx
[13:42] <lg188> how apply an theme ?
[13:42] <flaccid> !themes | lg188
[13:42] <lg188> ubotu crashed ?
[13:43] <lg188> i have an them i mind how to apply
[13:46] <shampoonator> mmh id like to install the firefox rc3, are there any official packages?
[13:48] <flaccid> shampoonator: 3.0 is in the repos already
[13:48] <shampoonator> but it says alpha
[13:49] <shampoonator> is it the same?
[13:52] <flaccid> shampoonator: have you installed it yet?
[13:52] <flaccid> !info firefox | shampoonator
[13:52] <flaccid> it looks pretty final to me, certainly not alpha. are you using hardy?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> You did have firefox closed when you update/upgraded?
[13:54] <shampoonator> gutsy
[13:54] <flaccid> let me see what gutsy has for fx3
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> I dident think Gutsy was getting FF3 any time soon.
[13:55] <shampoonator> and it says version 3.0a8
[13:55] <shampoonator> mmh k
[13:55] <shampoonator> thx
[13:55] <flaccid> ok gutsy-backports only gets 3.0~b4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 so you are on your own if you want a newer version
[13:56] <lg188> hue how do you get that them working ?
[13:56] <shampoonator> now i somehow missed that hardy was released ><
[13:56] <shampoonator> i think i just upgrade ;)
[13:57] <ActionParsni1> hey all
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> shampoonator,  heh.. ya missed the big party!
[13:58] <flaccid> shampoonator: sweet
[13:58] <ActionParsni1> big party??
[14:07] <shampoonator> see you later (if i get problems :D)
[14:10] <lg188> hey ?
[14:14] <msi> hola
[14:15] <wimpies> I set LOCK_SCREEN to false in /etc/default/acpi-support but still after a resume my screen is locked ... ???
[14:16] <msi> como cambio al canal español
[14:18] <msi> hola
[14:19] <lg188> Teardrop by Massive Attack.
[14:20] <flaccid> nice track :)
[14:20] <msi> hola
[14:21] <engineer> hola
[14:21] <flaccid> !es
[14:22] <msi> gracias
[14:24] <helpy> what is the sudo command to get flash player ?
[14:24] <helpy> !flashplayer
[14:27] <galathalion> how do i set ktorrent as default in ff3?
[14:27] <flaccid> galathalion: not 100% sure. i thought firefox generally goes on last opened with. but check in #firefox
[14:28] <galathalion> thnx
[14:29] <lg188> damn kicker is lost
[14:30] <lg188> help please
[14:30] <lg188> kicker is away
[14:30] <lg188> killed the wrong procces
[14:31] <engineer> kicker &
[14:39] <lg188> why the & ?
[14:39] <lg188> that is anoying just ive kicker
[14:39] <engineer> lg188 http://kb.iu.edu/data/afnz.html
[14:40] <lg188> ?
[14:40] <lg188> wthek
[14:41] <flaccid> & is background in summary
[14:43] <nazgjunk> hey, a rather minor issue here - knetwalk's screen appears to be too small for the Expert mode, has anyone else noticed this?
[14:47] <flaccid> nazgjunk: seems ok for me in 1.0
[14:48] <nazgjunk> odd.
[14:49] <flaccid> thats a crazy game
[14:56] <candive> Hi all, I have saved a bill in my docs folder but when I try to open it I get an error mess. how do I delete this file?? right and left clicks only cause error please help
[14:58] <candive> The desktop entry file
[14:58] <candive> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[14:58] <candive> has an invalid menu entry
[14:58] <candive> addAsPodcast.
[15:01] <candive> Where is everyone???
[15:02] <engineer> nowhere
[15:02] <flaccid> candive: this is a bug. edit the file and remove the text/html entry
[15:02] <flaccid> i was making a cup of soup for my houstemate :p
[15:02] <candive> edit how
[15:02] <flaccid> candive: kdesudo kate /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[15:02] <candive> new
[15:02] <lg188> Hans Teeuwen
[15:04] <candive> widow open
[15:04] <flaccid> remove text/html, only then exit and save
[15:05] <lg188> can you oprete an ftp ?
[15:05] <flaccid> sure
[15:05] <lg188> operate ?*
[15:05] <lg188> fun
[15:05] <candive> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop.
[15:05] <candive> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[15:06] <flaccid> candive: did you run it under kdesudo kate /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop ?
[15:06] <lg188> how flaccid
[15:06] <flaccid> !ftp | lg188
[15:06] <candive> shell console "konsole
[15:06] <flaccid> depends if you want server or client
[15:06] <Aw0L> does kdm themes not work for anyone else?  It did at first, and after some installing/uninstalling it's broken
[15:06] <engineer> fireftp for firefox
[15:07] <lg188> server
[15:07] <engineer> proftpd
[15:07] <flaccid> Aw0L: yeah thats pretty normal
[15:07] <helpy> i can't kill the processes in my kubuntu
[15:07] <flaccid> !ftpd | lg188
[15:07] <helpy> it says not enough rights
[15:07] <Aw0L> flaccid, are you serious?
[15:07] <helpy> this kubuntu installation is freaking me out
[15:07] <flaccid> Aw0L: yes
[15:07] <flaccid> helpy: kill under sudo then
[15:08] <helpy> how ?
[15:08] <lg188> helpy: ctr+alt+esc klik the program not in bar downsid
[15:08] <flaccid> helpy: sudo kill -i pid
[15:08] <candive> flaccid,
[15:08] <candive> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop.
[15:08] <candive> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[15:08] <Aw0L> flaccid, it seems to work in other distros - know of a fix?
[15:08] <helpy> i dont even have system manager in my menu
[15:08] <helpy> updates won't run
[15:08] <helpy> upgrades won't work
[15:08] <helpy> its mess
[15:08] <flaccid> Aw0L: only editing kdmrc manually really
[15:08] <helpy> how do i get owners right ?
[15:08] <flaccid> candive: if you ran it under kdesudo you shouldn't have that problem.
[15:08] <Aw0L> flaccid, and manually specifying a theme?
[15:09] <flaccid> Aw0L: if its valid, or specifying no theme
[15:09] <helpy> unknown signal 'i'
[15:10] <Aw0L> flaccid, I'll give that a try, thanks
[15:10] <flaccid> np
[15:10] <flaccid> helpy: sorry sudo kill -i pid
[15:10] <flaccid> oops. sudo kill -9 pid
[15:11] <helpy> still nothing
[15:11] <helpy> isn't there a way to get owner's right forever ?
[15:11] <helpy> i hate when linux asks me for authentication over and over
[15:11] <candive> flaccid, k menu, system, konsole-terminal
[15:12] <flaccid> !root | helpy
[15:12] <candive> flaccid, su, passwd = no response
[15:12] <flaccid> candive: sorry ?
[15:12] <candive> np
[15:13] <helpy> how does it help me flaccid  ?
[15:13] <flaccid> please provide the actual errors.
[15:13] <helpy> i can't install anything
[15:13] <helpy> i can't upgrade
[15:13] <helpy> i can't get my firefox to work properly
[15:13] <helpy> its a mess.
[15:13] <flaccid> helpy: it explains to you how to use root and sudo correctly
[15:13] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[15:14] <flaccid> we can only really help people who explain the problems. we don't have telepathic abilities
[15:14] <candive> I opened k menu to get to konsole, entered su, entered passwrd no movement
[15:14] <helpy> what else is there to explain ?
[15:14] <flaccid> no movement?
[15:14] <flaccid> helpy: you could explain the error which is what we need.
[15:14] <candive> box at end of password thay is all
[15:14] <flaccid> explain as in. paste the error
[15:15] <vbgunz> whats up with amarok, it is sounding choppy and in ksysguard is running steady at 49-50% user% ... anyone know whats up?
[15:15] <helpy> ERROR: garbage process ID "apt-get".
[15:15] <flaccid> horray an error!
[15:15] <vbgunz> I am only playing ogg on amarok, what could be causing it to run steady at 50%?
[15:15] <candive> flaccid, should by my first word before ?
[15:15] <vbgunz> I only have 2 songs in the playlist atm
[15:15] <flaccid> ok helpy now you can do just what im going to do anyway which is google th error...
[15:15] <helpy> great
[15:15] <flaccid> candive: i don't understand you at all sorry
[15:16] <candive> flaccid, I followed the instructions but neglected to use "su" when I try to open su passwrd is entered with no response
[15:17] <flaccid> helpy: i don't know what the problem is but its likely you have broken something
[15:17] <flaccid> candive: its freezes?
[15:18] <flaccid> candive: the problem there is that su passwd is not valid. you are probably wanting to do sudo passwd
[15:18] <candive> passwrd not displayed is ok but no new line appears like freeze, yes
[15:18] <lg188> how delete wine ?
[15:18] <flaccid> helpy: have you tried to reboot?
[15:18] <helpy> yes
[15:18] <helpy> doesnt work
[15:18] <helpy> i am really flippin out here
[15:19] <candive> flaccid will try sudo
[15:19] <flaccid> helpy: sudo killall apt-get
[15:19] <helpy> apt-get: no process killed
[15:19] <flaccid> helpy: pastebin ps aux | grep apt-get
[15:19] <helpy> minhaaj  14669  0.0  0.0    300    72 pts/2    R+   20:19   0:00 grep apt-get
[15:20] <flaccid> looks like you have broken your sysem in some way helpy
[15:20] <helpy> i have flaccid
[15:20] <helpy> i am more interested in fixing it btw
[15:20] <flaccid> helpy: you already knew that?
[15:20] <lg188> hello Howto delete wine ?
[15:20] <flaccid> helpy: cant fix something unless you know how it was broken
[15:20] <helpy> yep, apps are not in menu
[15:20] <lg188> adept ?
[15:20] <helpy> things are different
[15:20] <flaccid> lg188: remove the package wine
[15:20] <helpy> actually my internet is terrible today
[15:21] <flaccid> lg188: yes adept
[15:21] <lg188> kk
[15:21] <helpy> i kept on disconnecting while updating kubuntu
[15:21] <candive> flaccid, ? -kate opened
[15:21] <flaccid> helpy: id say you have broken your system while attempting an update. the problems you have are not normal
[15:21] <helpy> what next flaccid  ?
[15:21] <flaccid> candive: cool
[15:21] <candive> yup
[15:21] <flaccid> helpy: backup and reinstall
[15:21] <helpy> awesome !!!
[15:21] <helpy> and update 214 MB install ?
[15:21] <candive> flaccid, am i done?
[15:22] <flaccid> helpy:  and try not to break it again :)
[15:22] <helpy> my internet is pathetic today. and who knows i wouldnt break up again ?
[15:22] <flaccid> candive: i don't know did you make the edit and save the file?
[15:22] <flaccid> helpy: well if you don't know what you are doing...
[15:22] <candive> flaccid, I just want it gone
[15:22]  * flaccid takes a breathe of air
[15:23] <flaccid> candive: not a good idea.
[15:23] <flaccid> that kind of attitude is what breaks things :)
[15:23] <candive> flaccid,
[15:23] <helpy> yea right.
[15:23] <candive> flaccid, oops, the file is just an old bill
[15:23] <flaccid> old bill?
[15:24] <candive> I downloaded a bill from my IP
[15:24] <flaccid> amarok_addaspodcast.desktop is not your bill.
[15:25] <flaccid> candive: so how did you go with the edit and save. please focus on the solution.
[15:25] <lg188> Purgin ?
[15:25] <lg188> Purging ?
[15:26] <flaccid> lg188: what is your question?
[15:26] <candive> flaccid, confused, I edited and saved
[15:26] <flaccid> 1 word is not a question :)
[15:26] <lg188> what does it means
[15:26] <flaccid> candive: ok then its fixed and if not, log out then back in
[15:26] <flaccid> lg188: completely removing
[15:26] <lg188> kk
[15:26] <candive> flaccid, ok thanks will try
[15:26] <flaccid> np
[15:27]  * flaccid goes to get another wine
[15:27] <lg188> flaccid: lol
[15:27] <ahmed> hi does compiz fusion support radeon 7000?
[15:28] <flaccid> ahmed: pretty sure it does
[15:29] <ahmed> flaccid: ok thanks i just installed kubuntu 7
[15:29] <ahmed> flaccid: ok thanks i just installed kubuntu 7.10 how to install the driver of radeon 7000 without any risk to use compiz
[15:29] <flaccid> col
[15:30] <flaccid> um lets just check the ati list to make sure its supported by fglrx and not full legacy
[15:30] <bolito> hi
[15:30] <flaccid> !hi | bolito
[15:30] <bolito> contestme alguien si sabe español
[15:31] <lg188> hue is kubuntu running with an image  ?
[15:31] <bolito> como me puedo cambiar de canal con el konversacion para ubuntu 8.04 de hardy heron
[15:31] <lg188> it's sort of hdd tha is mounted ?
[15:31] <lg188> !esp
[15:31] <lg188> !span
[15:31] <FoxIII> !es
[15:31] <flaccid> ahmed: apparently its just the ones older than 7000. goto kdesu restricted-manager-kde and let us know what it says
[15:32] <ahmed> flaccid: u mean i have type kdesu restricted-manager-kde in run
[15:32] <lg188> tx FoxIII
[15:32] <candive> flaccid, tried log out in and restart, its still there
[15:33] <lg188> Dr_Willis_: hey
[15:33] <lg188> hey lappari
[15:33] <ahmed> flaccid: i typed kdesu restricted-manager-kde in run and it says hardware doesnt need any driver
[15:33] <lg188> !dtch|lg188
[15:34] <flaccid> ahmed: ok what does glxinfo | grep -i direct say?
[15:35] <ahmed> flaccid: direct rendering: Yes
[15:36] <jussi01> ahmed: which gfx card you have?
[15:37] <ahmed> jussi01:radeon 7000
[15:37] <flaccid> jussi01: its a radeon 7000 . i thought that it could do fglrx according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers/ATI
[15:37] <jussi01> ahmed: the ati driver should work out of the box for that
[15:37] <jussi01> anything 9500 and newer needs the fglrx
[15:37] <genii> candive: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095369
[15:37] <flaccid> well i wouldn't say need..
[15:37] <jussi01> 3d should be automatically enabled
[15:38] <flaccid> ahmed: sounds like you are ready
[15:38] <jussi01> flaccid: no, the fglrx drvers are not for older than 9500
[15:38]  * jussi01 has a 9250, I should know
[15:38] <ahmed> flaccid: is that mean i dont have to install any driver and i can use compiz fusion now??
[15:38] <flaccid> jussi01: so the wiki is wrong?
[15:38] <jussi01> ahmed: correct
[15:38] <jussi01> !ati | flaccid read here:
[15:38] <flaccid> yeah
[15:38] <ahmed> jussi01: thanks man and thanks for flaccid too
[15:38] <Aw0L> flaccid, you're getting attacked aren't yoU?
[15:39] <flaccid> jussi01: read here first line: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers/ATI
[15:39] <candive> genii, thanks
[15:39] <flaccid> im used to it, but jussi01 and genii here to the rescue
[15:39] <flaccid> i dislike the the sloppy nature of our documentation :)
[15:39] <jussi01> flaccid: so? it says older than the 7000
[15:40] <jussi01> flaccid: if you dislike it, why dont you investigate, then correct it?
[15:40] <jussi01> it is a wiki after all :)
[15:40] <ahmed> thanks i'll try  compiz fusoin
[15:40] <flaccid> because im too busy here
[15:41] <flaccid> i don't know the ins and outs of video card models nor do i have the time to investigate so i like to trust what is in place
[15:42] <jussi01> flaccid: all the same, that wiki seems correct to me anyway
[15:42] <flaccid> im also against this free form wiki idea :)
[15:42] <flaccid> Pre-radeon - Cards older than the original Radeon 7000 (such as the Rage cards) have no 3d acceleration available. <-- suggests the 7000 will work with fglrx 3d
[15:43] <jussi01> no, suggest the 7000 will have 3d, as it does
[15:43] <flaccid> jussi01: then why is restricted manager not suggesting restricted driver?
[15:44] <jussi01> flaccid: because it uses the radeon/ati free driver
[15:44] <candive> genni, flaccid, Thank you both Very Much! problem solved. cool I think kubuntu is the best!
[15:44] <flaccid> jussi01: yes by default, but restricted manager is for enabling the restricted drivers and according to this wiki which you say is correct it should suggest fglrx
[15:44] <flaccid> candive: np
[15:45] <jussi01> flaccid: for cards between the 7000 and up to the 9500 the free ati driver gives 3d
[15:45] <flaccid> i have a 9600 and it suggests the restricted driver although using radeon out of box
[15:45] <flaccid> jussi01: yeah i know that. you are missing the point..
[15:48] <candive> People, keep up the great work! chow.
[15:49] <Belliash> hi
[15:50] <Belliash> can U tell me what is responsible for OSD volume notifications with kmix? is it kosd? kmilo? sth else?
[15:51] <genii> Belliash: kmilo
[15:51] <Belliash> genii: how to change it look ?
[15:53] <lg188> 涼しい
[15:53] <genii> Belliash: It's resource file is in ~/.kde/share/config/kmilodrc        But I'm not sure I'd want to tinker much with that unless you know what you're doing.
[15:56] <candive> Last question for today, how do I sort my bookmarks in konqueror?
[15:57] <candive> I take that back, wiil use forum
[15:57] <candive> chow
[15:58] <ubuntu__> i i just installed new system and after updating i restart it it says cannot find file when select kubuntu  from grum
[15:58] <ubuntu__> *grub
[15:59] <DrSilent> updating meaning updating the kernel to a new version?
[15:59] <DrSilent> it should have asked you if you wanted to keep your old grub file at some point
[15:59] <DrSilent> what did you answer?
[16:00] <flaccid> ubuntu__: which grub error number is it?
[16:00]  * genii suspects 17
[16:00] <ubuntu__> no updatong kernel updating the applications the small icon appear behind the clock
[16:00] <ubuntu__> i think it was number 5000
[16:00] <flaccid> lol
[16:01] <LamerMan> guys, where could i download latest gnuarm toolchain packages?
[16:01] <flaccid> im going to have a break for a bit genii
[16:02] <genii> flaccid: I'm back and forth from here to work but I'll try to field some Q's
[16:03]  * _CrashMaster_ steps in to pick up flaccid's slack
[16:04] <DrSilent> well then
[16:05] <Guest19273> hola
[16:05] <DrSilent> do you know how to reset the login screen window to its standard appearance in 8.04 KDE3?
[16:05] <DrSilent> I tried to change it and it borked, and now i can't get it back to normal
[16:06] <venik> when I reboot kubuntu 8.04, it often reboots in 640X480 screen format, and I have to copy a fresh xorg.conf on the old one, to get it back.  What is going on?
[16:06] <flaccid> DrSilent: i should be on a break, but the simple solution is sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[16:06] <venik> KDE3
[16:06]  * flaccid runs off now to eat and drink
[16:06] <_CrashMaster_> DrSilent: KMenu / System Settings / Advanced / Login Manager, then click the DEFAULTS button
[16:06] <wimpies>  kdescreensaver seems to be locked after resume from hibernation ... How can I disable that ?
[16:06] <DrSilent> I did that crashmaster, it no worky
[16:06] <DrSilent> so full resinatll huh
[16:06] <DrSilent> guess i'll try that
[16:07] <ubuntu__> hi again i checked now i get grub error 15 after updating
[16:07] <coopafiol> guau aca todo en ingles
[16:07] <coopafiol> no hay alguno que hable en español
[16:07] <_CrashMaster_> !es | coopafiol
[16:07] <flaccid> _CrashMaster_: that doesn't always work because its pretty buggy in systemsettings there which is why its stuffed to bein with, but i hope it does..
[16:07]  * flaccid minimises konv to tray
[16:07] <coopafiol> gracias muy amable
[16:08] <venik> when I reboot kubuntu 8.04, it often reboots in 640X480 screen resolution, and I have to copy a fresh xorg.conf on the old one, to get it back.  What is going on?
[16:09] <ubuntu__> i get grub error 15 after updating and restart i just installed the system
[16:09] <genii> LamerMan: Maybe here someplace http://www.gnuarm.org/files.html
[16:10] <ubuntu__> any idea or i have to reinstall the systemagain?
[16:12] <genii> ubuntu__: That error indicates it can't find the kernel on the device you are trying to boot from.
[16:13] <LamerMan> genii thanks, there are no pre-built packages as i know, i tried to find toolchain in deb files, not to compile it from sources. :)
[16:13] <ubuntu__> genii: so how to solve this?? ijust install the kubuntu 7.10 and update the packages
[16:13] <genii> ubuntu__: Was the update interrupted, or go badly?
[16:14] <flaccid> its actually a bug. i've had kubuntu update the wrong location on me many times
[16:14] <ubuntu__> genii: yes it said some puckiges had errors while downloading
[16:14] <llutz> ubuntu__: pastebin the output of "ls -l /boot" and your /boot/grub/menu.lst please
[16:14] <flaccid> its usually +1 or -1 in the menu.list location
[16:16] <ubuntu__> im using the kubuntu desktop cd and run it in consol the output was
[16:16] <ubuntu__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  424317 2007-10-15 01:39 abi-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:16] <ubuntu__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   75311 2007-10-15 01:39 config-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:16] <ubuntu__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7123733 2007-10-16 22:10 initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak
[16:16] <ubuntu__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  103204 2007-09-28 10:06 memtest86+.bin
[16:16] <ubuntu__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  823535 2007-10-15 01:39 System.map-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:16] <ubuntu__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1764280 2007-10-15 01:39 vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:16] <grendal_prime> ok guys back from training, now.   This keyboard config thing is really makeing me crazy.  I dont understand how this could go this long as a bug...its just really anoying and totally limiting on the laptop.  I cannot use alt-tab, i cannot use any of the fn keys on my keyboard.  It seems to be something totally related to the kubuntu distro (ie ubuntu does not seem to suffer from this) so it leads me to believe that it is simply a
[16:16] <grendal_prime> configuration issue.
[16:16] <flaccid> lol
[16:17] <flaccid> grendal_prime: which kde version?
[16:17] <grendal_prime> but i cant find any helpfull information regarding this from google.
[16:17] <grendal_prime> 3.5.8
[16:17] <grendal_prime> 7.1 distrobution.
[16:18] <flaccid> grendal_prime: try creating a new user and see if that user has the same problem or not
[16:21] <flaccid> llutz: user gone
[16:22] <grendal_prime> flaccid ya same problem for the new user.
[16:22] <flaccid> grendal_prime: maybe bug the people in #kde
[16:23] <Dr_Willis_> I got an odd keyboard issue  the alt-right arrow key combo seems to repeate very fast. Not sure if its compiz specific or not.. since i cant find anything other then the compiz cube/task switcher to make it do it..  or to test.
[16:23] <Dr_Willis_> wonder if all these keyboard issues are some how related to a deeper problem
[16:24] <flaccid> there a lots of these issues in kde4 as well
[16:24] <maduser> unlike konsole
[16:24] <flaccid> 'oh my alt - tab aint working anymore for no reason' randomly
[16:25] <Dr_Willis_> im seeing this under gnome and kde 3
[16:25] <Dr_Willis_> not tried kde4
[16:25] <flaccid> i rea that..
[16:25] <flaccid> read even
[16:25] <grendal_prime> and i had a friend call me up he installed latest kubuntu and had the same issue
[16:25] <grendal_prime> tried that flaccid
[16:26] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm.. This is weird.. I can ping google.com from my laptop.. but i get host unreachable for  pinging the router at 192.168.1.1
[16:26] <flaccid> its kind of ironic how its all open source yet these problems are not easily fixed :)
[16:26] <Dr_Willis_> What the heck :)
[16:26] <flaccid> try to traceroute it Dr_Willis_
[16:27] <flaccid> see what that says
[16:28] <Dr_Willis_> I wonder if it had to do with me having wireless and wired both plugged in.. then turning off the wireless. :)
[16:28] <Dr_Willis_> i think it finally started working
[16:28] <Dr_Willis_> gee does it mixx the 2 together if i download somthing? :)
[16:29] <genii> Probably not unless you're running some bandwidth aggregator
[16:31] <Dr_Willis_> first time ive evern actially HAD a machine with wireless working under linux
[16:32] <Dr_Willis_> Im so used to using static ips and editing the host file. not sure what to do with a machine that has 2 ips :) one wirless one wired.
[16:33] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys!
[16:33] <Drk_Guy> I've just downloaded kde4 for my ubuntu hardy, originally with gnome
[16:33] <Drk_Guy> But gnome apps look funny
[16:33] <Drk_Guy> They just don't mix with the look and feel of the system
[16:34] <DrSilent> that doesn't sound very surprising...
[16:35] <Drk_Guy> lol
[16:35] <Drk_Guy> Gtk won't mix right with Qt, right?
[16:35] <Dr_Willis_> mix? I mix and match kde/gnome apps all the time and never have issues.
[16:35] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: you can install gtk-qt-engine and config it through system settings - appearance or wait for the new one they are developing which will be better, but the current one is ok for kde3
[16:35] <Dr_Willis_> but kde4 is still a work in progress
[16:35] <Drk_Guy> I'm gonna download replacements for gtk apps
[16:36] <flaccid> ie. gtk styles and fonts..
[16:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Drk_Guy: good luck
[16:36] <Drk_Guy> flaccid, i'll try to install that
[16:36] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: you may not need to :)
[16:36] <Drk_Guy> lol
[16:36] <Drk_Guy> woah
[16:36] <Drk_Guy> Kde was running without kwin
[16:36] <Drk_Guy> XD
[16:36] <flaccid> haha
[16:36] <Drk_Guy> Is it running with metacity?
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> Nice, i ran compiz and now apps focus by mouse hovering
[16:37] <Drk_Guy> I want it the classic way
[16:38] <Dr_Willis_> focus follows mouse.. is the 'classic' way :)
[16:38] <Dr_Willis_> from way way way back :)
[16:38] <Drk_Guy> lol
[16:38] <Drk_Guy> Apple Lisa or what?
[16:38] <Drk_Guy> XD
[16:38] <Dr_Willis_> Like 1986 and befor. :)
[16:38] <flaccid> well you do need a window manager and ccsm can change the focus behaviour how you want
[16:38] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll try to do it with ccsm
[16:38] <Drk_Guy> But in gnome, it kept with the "modern" way
[16:39] <Dr_Willis_> ccsm takes over a lot of things.
[16:39] <Dr_Willis_> never noticed where the focus follows mouse setting is at.
[16:39] <Dr_Willis_> well compiz takes over. :)
[16:39] <Drk_Guy> lol
[16:40] <Dr_Willis_> its mass confuseion and anarchy all over again!
[16:40] <flaccid> a window manager is a window manager. when kwin leaves the scene, it leaves
[16:40] <Drk_Guy> I'm downloading the best linux media player available - amarok
[16:40] <grendal_prime> looks like gnome power-manager does the trick
[16:40] <Drk_Guy> XD
[16:40] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: its not a media player
[16:40] <flaccid> its just an audio player :)
[16:40] <Drk_Guy> :/ your kinda right
[16:40] <Daisuke_Ido> not kinda, completely.
[16:40] <Drk_Guy> But i like to call it media player for some reason
[16:40] <Drk_Guy> XD
[16:41] <genii> windows-isms
[16:41] <Dr_Willis_> Well if MS can call their Pice-o-poo a media player... i guess anything can be called that. :)
[16:41] <flaccid> haha
[16:41] <Drk_Guy> lol
[16:41] <Daisuke_Ido> certainly the best audio collection manager i've used
[16:41] <Drk_Guy> Wingubs s*** player
[16:41] <Drk_Guy> Wsp
[16:42] <ahmed> hi today i installed kubuntu 7.10 and updated the packages after the updateing finished i got the error that some packegs error while downloded when i restart the system i got the error 15 file not found now i installed the system again and i want to update but im afraid to get the same error again what i have to do ?
[16:42] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, you installed packages with downlaoding errors
[16:42] <flaccid> genii should be able to help ahmed
[16:42] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, You got to download them all
[16:42] <fulat2k> hi folks, may i know what's the best way to re-install grub after installing xp on an existing kubuntu system?
[16:43] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, Because if you install only a piece of them, it will update wrong stuff
[16:43] <ahmed> Drk_Guy: i just install and update i select all to update
[16:43] <Drk_Guy> fulat2k, konsole, grub, find /boot/grub/stage1, grub install...
[16:44] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, download ALL packages, do not let it update if it downloaded only a part of it
[16:44] <genii> flaccid: For some issues that will be taking a long time to rectify I can't really, because I'm getting yanked away here for extended periods today
[16:44] <fulat2k> Drk_Guy: i'm trying it out on a livecd b4 installing xp.  but find /boot/grub/stage1 says Error 15: File not found.  i currently have my boot partition in hd(0,7).
[16:44] <Drk_Guy> Kde apps are bigger in size than gnome ones
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> fulat2k, if you knwo you have it there, proceed
[16:45] <flpwch> is there a timeframe for kubuntu packages for kde4.0.80
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> flpwch, I just installed kde4 ;)
[16:45] <flaccid> genii: Drk_Guy is getting close to the gist of it
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> flpwch, all of them are ready
[16:45] <fulat2k> Drk_Guy: just do setup(hd0,7) ?
[16:45] <flpwch> oh, sweet
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> :)
[16:45] <flpwch> i didn't know if they were still the kde4.0 stuff
[16:45] <Drk_Guy> fulat2k, yeah, make sure your menu.lst is right
[16:45] <ahmed> Drk_Guy:i u se adept updater i make fetch list of update then apply update how do i know the some downloading goes wrong??
[16:46] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, synaptic told me if there were d/l errors, i dnt know for adept dude, sorry
[16:46] <fulat2k> Drk_Guy: cool.  well, hope it'll re-install itself in the MBR then.
[16:46] <flaccid> fulat2k: you need to re-install grub
[16:46] <Drk_Guy> :)
[16:47] <Drk_Guy> I'll transform this ubuntu into kubuntu
[16:47] <fulat2k> flaccid: i'm thinking of these steps: root(hd0,7)  setup(hd0)
[16:47] <Drk_Guy> XD
[16:47] <flaccid> ahmed: you may need to reinstall grub too if you get error 15 still after find /boot/grub/stage1 in grub prompt
[16:47] <ahmed> Drk_Guyok: i'll install synaptic and use it it willbe safe
[16:47] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, I wouldn't do so, but your free to do it
[16:47] <flaccid> you guys need to do what Drk_Guy has advised and confirm that grub is installed properly first. if it is, it will return the correct location
[16:48] <Drk_Guy> :)
[16:48] <ahmed> Drk_Guy: u told me u r using synaptic and it tell u if something wrong??
[16:48] <Drk_Guy> Woah, this cahnnel reamins real calmed down compared to #ubuntu
[16:48] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, I just switched to kde
[16:48] <Dr_Willis_> we are all on prozak :)
[16:48] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, I was using gnome
[16:48] <flaccid> i never get help in that channel when i go there it feels like an over populated cess pool :p
[16:49] <flpwch> this is weird
[16:49] <ahmed> Drk_Guy: then what u think i have to do now?? anyone using kde here
[16:49] <Dr_Willis_> you can only stand   'i deleted everyting from the panel, how do i get it back' so many times. :)
[16:49] <flpwch> if the kubuntu 4.1b1 packages are out
[16:49] <flpwch> why isn't sudo aptitude upgrade doing them?
[16:49] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, Just use adept
[16:49] <flaccid> !kde4 | flpwch
[16:50] <flpwch> woop
[16:51] <ahmed> Drk_Guy: and if it  give me error after updating the some package have error while downloading what i have to do??? if i restarted the system i will face the same grub error
[16:51] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, cancel update and restart it, dont worry, it'll ask you if you want to proceed with download errors
[16:52] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, if it asks, say no and retry updating
[16:52] <flaccid> just fix the grub problem first
[16:52] <ahmed> Drk_Guy: it didnt aask me at all it says the error after finished update
[16:53] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, weird, it shouldn't proceed with download errors
[16:53] <flaccid> ahmed: please goto grub in konsole, once there please then execute find /boot/grub/stage1 and let us know what it returns
[16:53] <ahmed> Drk_Guy: that what happened with me last ime today
[16:54] <tvrtko> hello
[16:54] <Drk_Guy> ahmed, retry, i really don't know how adept works
[16:54] <ahmed> flaccid:Error 15: File not found
[16:55] <ahmed> flaccid: Error 15: File not found   the same error i got after update and restart
[16:55] <Drk_Guy> lol
[16:55] <Drk_Guy> Then something erased grub
[16:56] <ahmed> what i have to do?? im not experience with linux
[16:57] <flaccid> ahmed: pretty easy one sec
[16:57] <ahmed> ok
[16:59] <flaccid> ahmed: are you in the livecd or the normal install ?
[16:59] <Drk_Guy> flaccid, I can't seem to fing gtk-qt-engine configuration module
[16:59] <ahmed> now im in normall install
[16:59] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: you need to install it
[17:00] <ahmed> something happened weired now i logged off once i didnt push any button
[17:00] <Drk_Guy> flaccid, done
[17:00] <flaccid> ahmed: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l just so i can confirm the disk location ?
[17:00] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: should be in system settings - appearance now
[17:01] <ahmed> /dev/sda1            2551        4997    19655527+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[17:01] <ahmed> /dev/sda2               1         124      995998+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[17:01] <ahmed> /dev/sda3   *         125        2550    19486845   83  Linux
[17:01] <flaccid> right
[17:01] <Drk_Guy> flaccid, which package enables me to use spanish lang, my mom only speaks spanish
[17:01] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: no idea sorry
[17:02] <Drk_Guy> flaccid, rats
[17:03] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: im just a dumb aussie :)
[17:03] <inaety> i just reformatted and installed 8.04.  before ubuntu asked me if i wanted the nvidia drivers installed and did it for me.  Where did that go, it isn't asking me? and envy isn't seeming to work
[17:03] <flaccid> ahmed: bare with me ahmed, im trying to remember and make sure this is right give me 5mins please
[17:03] <flaccid> inaety: kdesudo jockey-kde
[17:03] <ahmed> flaccid: ok man im waitning
[17:03] <Drk_Guy> flaccid, XD
[17:04] <inaety> nice flaccid
[17:04] <flaccid> inaety: aka Hardware Drivers Manager
[17:04] <inaety> flaccid: hmm i probably could have thought that on my own.  but thanks :) i didn't know it was called jockey
[17:05] <flaccid> inaety: yeah tis where the it comes from coolio
[17:05] <inaety> flaccid: will it edit my xorg for me
[17:06] <genii> Lunchtime. I'll be here for the next 45 minutes slid or so.
[17:06] <genii> *solid
[17:06] <Drk_Guy> Is there an equivalent to "gtk-window-decorator" in kde4?
[17:06] <genii> flaccid: Progress on the grub front yet?
[17:06] <flaccid> ahmed: i found a guide that is going to be easier than me explaining. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-9f28b5a7f41d3659b2ae759665f8bc89ed5b351d if you follow that and subsitute the hda/hda2 for your sda/sda2 then you should be cool
[17:06] <genii> Drk_Guy: kde-window-decorator, of course
[17:06] <Drk_Guy> I think it was qt, lol
[17:06] <flaccid> genii: just a basic reinstall of grub
[17:07] <flaccid> inaety: yep
[17:07] <Drk_Guy> genii, i like compiz's effects, but i would like to mantain the system theme
[17:07] <ahmed> flaccid: ok i'll see it if i have proplem or something didnt understant i'll ask u ok man
[17:07] <flaccid> ahmed: sounds good
[17:07] <inaety> flaccid: thank you!
[17:07] <flaccid> np
[17:08] <inaety> now i can get my psx emulation on
[17:08] <inaety> :P
[17:08] <Drk_Guy> lol, this is crazy
[17:08] <flaccid> its always crazy!
[17:08] <genii> Drk_Guy: I think kde-window-decorator is in package compiz-kde. Anyhow it tries to use your rgular kde themes under compiz
[17:08] <lat> (network-admin:7562): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: GtkComboBox.items   <==<< How do I fix this?
[17:08] <Drk_Guy> Rats
[17:09] <Drk_Guy> this kicker replacement sucks, i'm gonna install the classic kicker
[17:09] <flaccid> lat: ask in #ubuntu or the channel for the gtk program you are running?
[17:09] <flaccid> i was impressed with compiz-kde, it works pretty good
[17:09] <lat> flaccid, thanks!
[17:09] <Drk_Guy> compiz-kde rocks
[17:10] <flaccid> np lat
[17:10] <Drk_Guy> Plasma sucks
[17:10] <flaccid> lol
[17:10] <Drk_Guy> How can i replace plasma with kicker?
[17:10] <flaccid> its actually really good except the bugs and issues with other things
[17:10] <Drk_Guy> I mean, everything is distorted, i can't get it back to normal
[17:10] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: wrong channel. goto #kde4
[17:11] <Drk_Guy> The things are wrongly placed
[17:11] <genii> Also in #kubuntu-kde4 is kde4 specific help
[17:13] <ahmed> flaccid: ok one last question befor i go with this do i have to do it now or after update??
[17:13] <genii> lat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/206291       I'm not sure if there is any fix currently
[17:13] <flaccid> ahmed: probably best to finish your updates first, but in theory it shouldn't matter
[17:14] <ahmed> ok i'll update first thanks man
[17:14] <ik_> hi guys..
[17:15] <ik_> i have a problem with my videocard
[17:15] <ik_> i just had to reinstall kubuntu, because it would only give me a blank screen
[17:15] <ik_> im now running KDE with the standard drivers, although they WORK, its far from optimal.
[17:16] <ik_> i cant have a higher res than 800x600, and cant run any 3D games/programs
[17:16] <flaccid> ik_: which kubuntu versin?
[17:17] <ik_> latest, 8.04
[17:17] <ik_> just burned, and installed
[17:17] <vipex> Hello
[17:17] <flaccid> ik_: what is your lspci|grep VGA from konsole?
[17:17] <ik_> lemme check (1sec..)
[17:18] <vipex> Why java isnt working with mozilla firefox?:O
[17:18] <ik_> ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] (rev ce)
[17:18] <ik_> i have the hd2300 though
[17:20] <flaccid> vipex: dont' worry i don't have it working either
[17:20] <Drk_Guy> XD flaccid
[17:20] <Drk_Guy> Me neither
[17:20] <flaccid> ik_: do you have onboard as well
[17:20] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm.. i think java is working here.
[17:20] <Drk_Guy> you need something like GCJ, but it won't install
[17:20]  * flaccid goes to see if he can fix it *again*
[17:20] <ik_> its onboard, i have a laptop
[17:20] <vipex> Ok
[17:21] <genii> My java is also working fine
[17:21] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: its not that simple!
[17:21] <flaccid> ik_: so do you have 1 or 2 video cards in your notebook?
[17:21] <ik_> flaccid: or try to port IE7 with wine XD
[17:21] <Drk_Guy> Firefox won't have java plugin
[17:21] <ik_> one
[17:21] <Drk_Guy> XD ik_
[17:21] <Drk_Guy> IE7 sucks
[17:22] <flaccid> ik_: you cannot port something that is closed source. it can run under wine however, i use it for testing :)
[17:22] <ik_> i know, thats why i proposed it lol
[17:22] <ik_> :-3
[17:22] <ik_> thats what i meant lol
[17:22] <lat> genii, thanks.
[17:22]  * flaccid is a web dev
[17:22] <ik_> anyway, my vid card.
[17:22] <genii> lat: np
[17:22] <flaccid> ik_: so why is it showing as x2100 when you have a hd ?
[17:22] <ik_> dunno 0.o
[17:22] <ik_> i had to start the installation in safe graphics mode
[17:23] <ik_> otherwise my screen just turns off.
[17:23] <zorglu_> q. what is the standard procesdure to get cd reading/mp3 and co on 8.04
[17:23] <flaccid> ik_: but you are sure that there is only 1 graphics card in your system ? if so pastebin lspci
[17:23] <flaccid> !mp3 | zorglu_
[17:24] <ik_> i did a paste, why should i have two cards in a laptop lol
[17:24] <flaccid> ik_: i don't know. i also don't know why its showing a dif card apparently
[17:24] <ik_> lol, now THAT is why i have a problem :-3
[17:24] <Dr_Willis_> how do you know its a 2300?
[17:25] <ik_> it says so in: 1:windows 2: manafacturer site
[17:25] <zorglu_> flaccid: some cleanup of those pages would be nice :)
[17:25] <ads_> hi im having real issues with ubuntu ...  kde is working fine but whenever a new install of ubuntu(gnome) leaves me with square zeroes for evry menu item and on the clock... can someone please help ive reinstalled twice now
[17:26] <flaccid> zorglu_: feel free to do so
[17:26] <Dr_Willis_> could be  the 2 chipsets are so very closely related
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:26] <ik_> the chipsets are the same, from a series (i think)
[17:26] <zorglu_> flaccid: each and every time i tried to contribute, i got rejected. now i just suggest :)
[17:26] <flaccid> ik_: pastebin cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log; lspci  please
[17:26] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  sounds like a font issue to me.  what do you mean by a 'new install of gnome'?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> does anyone use clamav?
[17:26] <ads_> ive just done a apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[17:27] <ads_> Dr_Willis_: ya i think its encoding fonts or language settings   what may i do?
[17:27] <flaccid> zorglu_: ah well. don't worry i put up with that all the time too...
[17:27] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  no idea. I only use english. so never mess with the  language settings
[17:27] <ik_> flaccid: thats a LOT of info
[17:27] <ik_> where do i put that?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis_> ik_,  use the pastebinit command
[17:28] <ads_> Dr_Willis_: i havent messed with nay settings its a fresh install?!
[17:28] <ads_> any*
[17:28] <flaccid> !pastebin > ik_
[17:28] <ads_> ive reinstalled gnome (ubuntu) twice now and i keep getting the same issue    i need to fix this
[17:28] <flaccid> ads_: goto #ubuntu
[17:28] <ik_> !pastebin?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,   you could install kubuntu, then isntall ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome that badly
[17:29] <ads_> flaccid: no help there :(   they dont know or arent answering
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  could be the cd ihas some bad spots.. or other issues.
[17:29] <ik_> im a bit new to linux lol (although i can handle it fine so far.)
[17:29] <flaccid> ads_: thats normal
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  so basicially on a NEW clean install of ubuntu - your fonts are messed up. is what you mean to say?
[17:29] <flaccid> ik_: yeah you paste it in the webpage and it will give you a URL for us so you don't flood
[17:29] <ads_> Dr_Willis_:   i didnt use the cd i used apt-get installl ubuntu-desktop   from kde!!
[17:30] <flaccid> most of use here can't help too much with gnome
[17:30] <ik_> i didnt get a URL ^^
[17:30] <ads_> Dr_Willis_: yes a new install ...  but i am alreay running kubuntu i simply used apt to install ubuntu-desktop  (twice now!!)  but both times i get this error
[17:30] <ik_> just enough info to make konsole do a clear page.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  you need to clarify things a bit then. You Installed Kubuntu, then you did a 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and the GNome fonts are messed up, but not kdes fonts?
[17:30] <flaccid> ik_: you would of. you goto http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output then the next page will advise a URL
[17:30] <zorglu_> q. what is the default sound system used by kubuntu 8.04 ?
[17:31] <ads_> Dr_Willis_: yes   ... kde is fine
[17:31] <zorglu_> alsa ? pulse
[17:31] <flaccid> zorglu_: alsa and arts iirc
[17:31] <zorglu_> flaccid: ok thanks
[17:31] <ik_> i can paste, but not everything, because the info doesnt fit on the screen
[17:31] <genii> !pastebin
[17:31] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  try making a new user, see if it affets them in gnome also.
[17:31] <ik_> i know what pastebin is now.
[17:31] <flaccid> ik_: should be able to do it with the mouse
[17:32] <ads_> Dr_Willis_: ill try that now
[17:32] <ik_> but: 1 how do i use it, and 2: i cant select ALL the info from the konsole, because it simply doesnt fit in one console screen.
[17:32] <vipex> Ohh i can play WoW on kubuntu;D
[17:32] <vipex> Nice
[17:32] <vipex> Im gonna play
[17:32] <vipex>  C ya
[17:33] <Dr_Willis_> well ya can play it with WINE  :)
[17:33]  * flaccid is sitting next to a WoW junkie
[17:33] <ik_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22363/
[17:33] <ik_> thats the most i can paste.
[17:34] <flaccid> ik_: thats cool, its enough
[17:34] <ik_> flaccid: k
[17:34] <compilerwriter> !DHT
[17:35] <flaccid> ik_: so it seems you have a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] (rev ce)
[17:35] <ik_> thats 50% true.
[17:35] <ik_> i have a Ati radeon HD2300 mobile
[17:36] <flaccid> ik_: you are on hardy?
[17:36] <ik_> jep
[17:36] <flaccid> give me 2mins to check this
[17:36] <ik_> 8.04, just downloaded, and installed
[17:37] <flaccid> ik_: can you goto kdesudo jockey-kde and let me know what it says?
[17:37] <genii> ik_: What does device lspci -nn | grep VGA    say? The device code might be useful
[17:38] <flaccid> genii: its in the pastebin. already requested.
[17:38] <flaccid> genii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22363/
[17:38] <ik_> one sec.
[17:38] <genii> flaccid: No device codes there just bus id's etc
[17:39] <flaccid> yes but it doesn't help in this case
[17:40] <flaccid> lets see what Hardware Drivers Manager suggests
[17:40] <ik_> flaccid: on your first question: it says ATI accelerated graphic driver ( i know this screen, i installed it, that makes gaming faster, but it stops working after a reboot)
[17:40] <ik_> on your second question: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] [1002:7210] (rev ce)
[17:40] <flaccid> yeah got that in the pastebin
[17:41] <flaccid> ik_: stops working how?
[17:41] <genii> OK so 1002:7210 vendor/device combo then
[17:41] <ik_> it gets slow again
[17:41] <ik_> and the 3D apps dont start at all.
[17:42] <flaccid> ik_: i would suggest editing your xorg.conf and changing driver to "ati" as per http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI
[17:43] <ik_> eh, where is xorg.conf located?
[17:44] <flaccid> ik_: sorry /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:44] <ik_> k thx
[17:44] <flaccid> np
[17:45] <ik_> so flaccid, i change :
[17:45] <ik_> Section "Device"
[17:45] <ik_> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[17:45] <ik_> 	Driver		"vesa"
[17:45] <ik_> EndSection
[17:45] <flaccid> im not up with all the ins and outs of the video/driver stuff but seems like this card will not work under the restricted driver like you say and the driver db suggests "ati" not "radeon" not sure why
[17:45] <flaccid> ik_: yep to Driver "ati"
[17:46] <flaccid> it should work under "radeon" as well although the driver db doesn't say that
[17:46] <ik_> k
[17:46] <ik_> ill try ati first.
[17:46] <flaccid> cool
[17:46] <ik_> if i dont come back for the coming day, you know it didnt work^^
[17:46] <flaccid> hehe ok
[17:48] <ik_> ok, changed it, now i reboot?
[17:48] <ik_> or what?
[17:49] <flaccid> ik_: shouldn't need to. just log out to kdm and select restart X from dropdown
[17:49] <ik_> ok
[17:49] <genii> flaccid: I'm getting the device identifier codes there in the radeon driver
[17:49] <softnet> hola alguien habla espa;ol]
[17:49] <flaccid> genii: URI ?
[17:50] <Pici> !es | softnet
[17:50] <flaccid> ati will always work with radeon chips anyway
[17:50] <genii> flaccid: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/DRM.html
[17:50] <softnet> oki doki
[17:50] <vipex> Hey whats the finnish kubuntu irc.?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis_> !fi
[17:50] <softnet> los buscare soy nuevo en esto
[17:50] <ik_> im back,
[17:50] <heartagram> vannak itt magyarok?
[17:50] <ik_> the screen is still working :-3
[17:50] <Dr_Willis_> that close vipex ?
[17:50] <vipex> thx
[17:50] <heartagram> vipex
[17:50] <Dr_Willis_> fi could be some other language. :) i just guessed
[17:50] <heartagram> segítenél nekem?
[17:51] <ik_> now what did i do to check my videocard again?
[17:51] <flaccid> genii: fair enough. i was using the debian db as its closer to ubuntu. however the question originally was more about whether the restricted driver would work. we know that both ati and radeon should work with a radeon chipset..
[17:51] <flaccid> ik_: lspci | grep -i direct    <-- what does that say
[17:51] <genii> Yup
[17:52] <ik_> w00t, nothing!
[17:52] <flaccid> oops
[17:52] <flaccid> wrong command
[17:52] <ik_> :-3
[17:52] <ik_> VGA
[17:52] <flaccid> glxinfo | grep -i direct
[17:52] <flaccid> ^^ sorry ik_ getting late for me
[17:52] <ads_> Dr_Willis_: i cna log into kde with a new user..  but when i try with gnome i am left with the desktop wallpaper and thats it
[17:52] <ik_> :-3
[17:52] <ik_> np
[17:53] <ik_> here it comes:
[17:53] <ik_> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[17:53] <ik_> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[17:53] <ik_> bash: glxinfo: command not found
[17:53] <ik_> ^^
[17:53] <jussi01> ik_: so do what it says :)
[17:53] <flaccid> ik_: hmm fair enough. do a sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[17:54] <ik_> ok:
[17:54] <ik_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[17:54] <ik_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[17:54] <flaccid> ads_: this really isn't the place for gnome support
[17:54] <ads_> flaccid: sorry :(   #ubuntu is useless   ill try again
[17:54] <flaccid> ik_: ok well now you get into ATI 3d issues which at 3am for me im not up for
[17:55] <ik_> ok lol
[17:55] <flaccid> your card is at least working for 2D
[17:55] <ik_> ^.^
[17:55] <Dr_Willis_> ads_,  you really should write down all the different things you have been doing and clarify exactly what does/where.  and put it in a pastebin site. this sounds like a deep problem
[17:55] <flaccid> ik_: might i suggest the #ati guys at this stage?
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> There may be others around who are though.  Generally ATI is very poor unless you're on their very latest card, which was released with Linux drivers included.
[17:56] <flaccid> jhutchins_wk: thats not true!
[17:56] <ik_> well, i did install the drivers from ati.com once.
[17:56] <flaccid> im on an old card with no issues, this user is on a new card :p
[17:56] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, well, their 2D support is flawless.
[17:56] <flaccid> ik_: ah that could very well be the problem!
[17:56] <ik_> but that fucked Kubuntu up so much i had to reinstall ^^
[17:56] <flaccid> right
[17:56] <ik_> i just did a reinstall
[17:56] <_CrashMaster_> !coc
[17:56] <ik_> about a hour ago
[17:57] <jhutchins_wk> ik_: language please.
[17:57] <jhutchins_wk> ik_: Fun way to spend your day, eh?
[17:57] <flaccid> don't worry ati 3d issues can go on for days!
[17:57] <ik_> ow, right, sorry
[17:57] <ik_> jep
[17:57] <ik_> i reinstalled kubuntu 3x today
[17:57] <ik_> *yay*
[17:57] <flaccid> its extremely woeful
[17:57] <flaccid> hey im on ati
[17:57] <softnet> como le cambio de idioma a kubuntu
[17:57]  * ik_ 's eye haz a little spaz.
[17:57] <flaccid> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[17:57] <softnet> ayudaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:58] <softnet> sorry esque no puedo cambiar el idioma a kubuntu
[17:58] <softnet> please :p
[17:58] <flaccid> thats what im using with compiz fusion w/ all effects including a nice cube heh
[17:58] <Pici> !es | softnet
[17:58] <genii> Pici: Thanks
[17:58] <flaccid> ik_: don't worry ati users get used to it :)
[17:58] <ik_> multi lang bot ^^
[17:58] <ik_> i know.
[17:59] <ik_> i guess im making some eyebrow muscles know.
[17:59] <ik_> *now.
[17:59] <flaccid> ik_: i feel your frustration. trust me. i spent 3 days to fix 3d once back in feisty
[17:59] <ik_> lol
[18:00] <ik_> i had something similar on my old rage3d back a year ago or so..
[18:00] <ik_> i thought: maybe i can setup a server on this old rig ^^
[18:00] <flaccid> well its even harder with fglrx restricted driver. you are not even using that..
[18:00] <ik_> *should be easy. right?*
[18:01] <flaccid> nothing is easy with ATI
[18:01] <ik_> well. THAT is true.
[18:02] <ik_> so i guess im back at the start, except from the fact i now know there is a #ati channel ^^
[18:02] <flaccid> which is why i bought my housemate an nvidia 9600GT for playing WoW in wine instead of an ATI HD*
[18:02] <ik_> lol
[18:02] <flaccid> ik_: pretty much
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> Except, supposedly their latest card comes with Linux drivers on the CD, and they're supposed to be good ones.
[18:02] <dr_Willis>  supposedly :)
[18:02] <flaccid> yeah but it depends which card
[18:02] <flaccid> and i aint seen anyone with it yet
[18:02] <genii> jhutchins_wk: I've found the drivers are for RedHat
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> This is one they released like last week.
[18:03] <flaccid> omg big ouch!
[18:03] <dr_Willis> poor ads_ got some messed up gnome going on. :)
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I've had problems with stuff before that was only released for RH, or SuSE, or only for a specific kernel - even if they have source.
[18:03] <ik_> my A+ SW teacher had some drivers.. but they where out of date.
[18:04] <ik_> he has the EXACT same laptop as me lol
[18:04] <genii> jhutchins_wk: Asus motherboards are like that too, the souce code is on their cds but it's again all redhat centric
[18:04] <flaccid> well im making do with my 9600 but im actually lucky compared to some of the users i help here
[18:05] <flaccid> redhat has it over debian thats for sure. always been that way in the corp
[18:05] <ik_> isnt there something like NDISwrapper for ati drivers lol
[18:05] <flaccid> ouch
[18:05] <ik_> (ow wait, that wouldnt help anyway.)
[18:08] <RiotingPacifist> does anybody know much about the changes to the wireless stack?
[18:08] <dr_Willis> RiotingPacifist,  it finally works for me. :)
[18:09] <RiotingPacifist> Ive alwaysed managed to get it working, but previously i could have 1 card working twice, i cant seem to do it anymore :(
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> !info dkms | ik_
[18:12] <ik_> dkms?
[18:12] <kurumim> alguém pode me dizer o cmd p atualizar sistema!!!
[18:12] <jhutchins_wk> ik_: Helps w/ rebuilding propietary modules when you upgrade kernels.
[18:12] <jhutchins_wk> ik_: May also help w/ initial install.
[18:12] <Pici> !br | kurumim
[18:12] <ik_> ok. if that helps me :D
[18:13] <RiotingPacifist> ik_: ati has fairly good OSS drivers though, not quite good enough for compiz in hardy (but aparently the SVN version is even faster) NVIDA has good but closed sourced drivers, intel dont make good graphics chips (well not up to ati/nvidia anyway
[18:14] <msi> cambiar a kubuntu spañol
[18:14] <RiotingPacifist> !es
[18:14] <msi> gracias
[18:14] <ik_> lol &&
[18:14] <ik_> ^6
[18:14] <RiotingPacifist> de nada
[18:15]  * ik_ hammers on shift...
[18:15] <ik_> ^^
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> !find docsis
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> !info torrus
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> !info torrus-common
[18:16] <lg188> hello
[18:16] <lg188> how set the volume to it's limit's ?
[18:16] <vipex> can i have the finnish irc channel link again?
[18:17] <RiotingPacifist> !fi
[18:17] <RiotingPacifist> is that finish?
[18:17] <vipex> yh
[18:17] <lg188> !ja
[18:17] <vipex> ty
[18:17] <flaccid> lg188: kmix
[18:18] <lg188> did that
[18:18] <lg188> i did all know to me
[18:18] <lg188> also in app
[18:18] <malik_> hi all,
[18:19] <lg188> hi
[18:19] <malik_> please any one help me installing nvidia drivers for Geforce 7200 GS on kubuntu 8.04
[18:24] <softnet> cual es el canal de ubuntu es
[18:24] <_CrashMaster_> !es | softnet
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> !nvidia | malik
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> Don't know if that's current.
[18:26] <lg188> !kmix
[18:27] <msi> español please
[18:27] <Pici> !es | msi
[18:27] <msi> gracias
[18:28] <zhog> Hello ladies and gentlemen
[18:29] <twobitwork> what version of x.org does kubuntu KDE4 use?
[18:29] <zhog> It seems Kubuntu 8.04 install DVD has some problems booting completely, anyone can help ?
[18:31] <RiotingPacifist> same as kde3 which is to say 1:7.3+10ubuntu10 which i think means 7.3
[18:32] <vipex> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[18:32] <vipex> ops
[18:37] <sexwax> hi, I need to resize and erase some partition, wich application should I use?
[18:38] <zhog> Why ubuntu boots only with wubi on my FAT32 partition but fails to boot from the livecd (i get busybox)?
[18:38] <flaccid> !partition | sexwax
[18:38] <rickest> sexwax: fdisk, fsdisk, or GParted LiveCD to do it w/ a GUI
[18:39] <rickest> sexwax: er, middle one was supposed to be sfdisk
[18:39] <sexwax> wow tnx people :D
[18:39] <RiotingPacifist> zhog: check the cd for defects
[18:39] <twobitwork> sexwax: use the gparted CD because its smart about resizing partitions with i.e. windows filesystems on them
[18:40] <lg188> what is the offtopic channel ?
[18:40] <zhog> thank you RP but then why i got zero problems with wubi ? i get the same joke with buth an ubuntu cd and kubuntu DVD
[18:40] <lg188> !offtopic
[18:40] <flaccid> lg188: its on topic
[18:41] <flaccid> oh my apologies lg188 see you in there then
[18:41] <zhog> but i'll check the isos anyway, what program should i use ? K3b is buggy on my kubuntu 6.10
[18:42] <zhog> duh ! i can check the DVD on startup !
[18:43] <twobitwork> zhog: you can also md5sum them
[18:43] <zhog> yes, i know but i don't know the proggie to use ;-)
[18:43] <twobitwork> md5sum?
[18:44] <zhog> terminal mamd5sum is uppose :-D
[18:44] <twobitwork> as in "md5sum /dev/cdrom" in a terminal :)
[18:44] <zhog> found ! thank you :-)
[18:48] <jim88> hi all .. can anyone tell me how to change the BUM for Kubuntu?  When I uncheck Gnome under services it stops auto booting
[18:52] <jim88> can anyone tell me how to change my BUM to boot KDE and not GNOME?  I am using gutsy
[18:52] <Pici> jim88: You want the kdm to come up instead of gdm?
[18:52] <jim88> yes at my sign in window
[18:52] <Pici> jim88: sudo dpgk-reconfigure gdm
[18:53] <Pici> er, dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[18:53] <genii> bootup manager <> login manager
[18:54] <jim88> ok, so I have 2 choices of doing it?
[18:54] <Pici> jim88: No, just the second one where I spelled the command properly.
[18:54] <genii> If kubuntu-desktop or kdm are not installed the sudo dkpg-reconfigure gdm won't give you option of kdm
[18:55] <jim88> it boots into kde but the sign in is gnome
[18:55] <flaccid>  sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm should do the trick
[18:56] <jim88> ok, let me try it brb
[18:57] <Pici> I assumed that he already had kdm and gdm installed already
[19:01] <zhog> Raaah !
[19:01] <zhog> the .iso is ok but the burned DVD has a different md5sum !
[19:01] <famille> salu
[19:02] <zhog> What am i supposed to do !, re-burn again !!? But i burned at the slowest speed (4X)
[19:04] <zhog> Is there a trick to avoid errors when burning a DVD ? or maybe installing from the kubuntu .iso ?
[19:04] <jim88> thank you all it worked
[19:05] <jussi01> !install | zhog
[19:05] <jussi01> !usb | zhog
[19:06] <zhog> Thank you
[19:13] <B4S3M> i cant upgrade from 8.04 CD ... what can i do ?
[19:13] <flaccid> throw it out the window!
[19:14] <twobitwork> microwave it
[19:18] <zhog> B4s3M: you've got a sytem older than 7.10 ?
[19:19] <B4S3M> why i check for issue using cat /etc/issue i print ubuntu 7.10
[19:19] <B4S3M> it prints*
[19:20] <B4S3M> but somehow am using KDE right now
[19:20] <zhog> Then you should be able to upgrade but since i am quite a n00b, i won't give potentially dangerous technical advice
[19:38]  * genii makes more coffee
[19:40]  * compilerwriter stands ready with whiskey to add to the coffee
[19:41] <genii> compilerwriter: :)
[19:41] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[19:41] <ixenakis> hello :-)))
[19:46]  * compilerwriter adds whiskey to genii's coffee
[19:47] <llutz> caffeine is unhealthy
[19:47] <genii> compilerwriter: I'll have to hide that one, I'm still at work here
[19:48] <genii> llutz: Probably :)
[19:48]  * compilerwriter laughs heartily
[19:48] <bassem> guys ... how can i update to Kubntu 8.04 from alternate CD ?
[19:49] <[Relic]> anyway to force the system tray to stack icons?
[19:52] <genii> bassem: Botom of this page has instructions http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:55] <bassem> genii: i tried kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ... but it does nothing
[19:55] <bassem> and whn i try kdesu " /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ... it prints an error " no such command"
[19:56] <genii> bassem: Try opening up /media/cdrom     or so and looking for the file
[19:57] <bassem> cdromupgrade ?
[19:57] <genii> Yup
[19:58] <bassem> cudnt find it ?
[19:58] <bassem> cudnt find it* :S
[20:00] <zhog> back
[20:00] <zhog> hmm.. K3B told me the DVD i just burned was ok but md5sum disagrees !
[20:01] <zhog> (i am still trying to install kubuntu form the DVd iso, which is a good one )
[20:02] <flaccid> zhog: hardy livecd or hardy dvd
[20:02] <FoxIII> Trying to set up my wireless card, the instructions I followed told me to type: sudo ndiswrapper -i BLKWGDv7.sys but it says that it can only be done with an INF file. Obviously on trying this I am shown an error. What could I be doing wrong?
[20:02] <zhog> i tried to boot from buth the gnome CD or KDE DVD and failed to go beyond busybox
[20:03] <zhog> and a wubi installation went just fine
[20:03] <zhog> but boots slowly, of course
[20:13] <djdarkman> hello, my girlfriend bought a laptop, her webcam didn`t work, the vedor`s response was depressing but, it found a solution how should I file a but/request about it?
[20:16] <bassem> genii: u still here ?
[20:16] <genii>  At the moment yes. But back and forth to work
[20:17] <genii> bassem: Are there any contents at all in the /media/cdrom directory (or equivelent)
[20:19] <genii> eg: Is the cd meing even mounted there
[20:19] <genii> meing->being
[20:22] <pietrek> Witam
[20:22] <genii> !pl
[20:23] <genii> FoxIII: I'm not seeing any text of yours here
[20:24] <FoxIII> genii, really? I'll send again.
[20:24] <lg188> idd FoxIII
[20:24] <JoshOvki> FoxIII: thre you are
[20:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> genii: i got an old kubuntu 5.10 cd, after all my isos came out bad, so i started installing and made a partition so my discs are half and half, thing is, i stopped installing hwen it said that it was going to format both the created partition and the windows one with all its files, so i stopped as i didn't want it to erase all my stuff, i backed up some of the files i have on windows
[20:24] <lg188> i ghave som life sings
[20:24] <FoxIII> Trying to set up my wireless card, the instructions I followed told me to type: sudo ndiswrapper -i BLKWGDv7.sys but it says that it can only be done with an INF file. Obviously on trying this I am shown an error. What could I be doing wrong?
[20:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i still don't know how to avoid erasing and still install
[20:25] <genii> FoxIII: Find the inf file for an XP install to use with it. Likely from the cd with the device or else manufacturer website
[20:25] <FoxIII> genii, I did try it with the inf file, but it complains about an incorrect location on line 192.
[20:26] <genii> FoxIII: Is this some broadcom? You may need the fwcutter stuff as well
[20:26] <FoxIII> genii, It's a belkin card
[20:27] <ik_> what was the console command for listing all tasks again? ( i forgot >.<)
[20:27] <genii> FoxIII: No offhand idea then, although you are right it should use a INF and not SYS file in that command
[20:27] <genii> ik_: ps ax     or:  top
[20:27] <ik_> ow, right, thx
[20:27] <FoxIII> genii, Thanks. I'll look in the inf file and see if I can see what the problem is.
[20:28] <kirkt> hey guys, how do i install JDK in 7.10 ?
[20:30] <Dekans> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[20:31] <kirkt> thanks
[20:31] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[20:31] <BluesKaj> kirkt, make sure to look for the agreement and agree, or it won't install
[20:31] <kirkt> huh?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> kirkt, if you use the detailed look in adept ..it''l be obvious in apt , cuz the install will stall
[20:33] <kirkt> i just did apt-get though
[20:33] <kirkt> its downloading so far
[20:35] <ikonia> djdarkman: thanks for storming out of ubuntu in a strop.
[20:35] <msi> hola buenas tardes
[20:36]  * djdarkman googles for the word "strop"
[20:36] <eagles0513875> !es | msi
[20:36] <ikonia> djdarkman: it means a sulk
[20:36] <msi> okis
[20:36] <eagles0513875> is anyone having issues with kopete and msn
[20:37] <Gustin> as in it won't connect?
[20:37] <eagles0513875> ya
[20:37] <Gustin> yup
[20:37] <eagles0513875> Gustin: have u tried pidgin
[20:37] <eagles0513875> *you
[20:37] <Gustin> I am just using pidgin
[20:38] <Gustin> heh
[20:38] <djdarkman> ikonia: just last words, but ban me if you wish
[20:38] <Gustin> it seems to be working
[20:38] <eagles0513875> Gustin: im using kopete
[20:38] <eagles0513875> i am goign to see if a reboot will fix anything
[20:38] <eagles0513875> im even having amarok issues
[20:38] <Gustin> kopete is not working
[20:38] <Gustin> pidgin is
[20:38] <Gustin> for me at least
[20:39] <Gustin> I have not really looked into the problem yet
[20:39] <ikonia> djdarkman: I've got zero authority to ban you, nor would I want to, but coming into an ubuntu channel and complaining that unstable drivers that are early are not in the kernel is of no value, and when you have it expalined to you sulking and running off is not really the best way to have a good reputation
[20:39] <eagles0513875> Gustin: have any updated pkgs been released yet
[20:40] <Gustin> none that I can see
[20:40] <Gustin> I don't really track the dev/rc stuff anymore
[20:40] <eagles0513875> Gustin: nothing im going to reboot and ill let you know if it fixes it
[20:41] <Gustin> rebooting did nothing for me
[20:41] <Gustin> and it is broken on two machines
[20:41] <eagles0513875> lol
[20:41] <eagles0513875> Gustin: did you file a bug report
[20:41] <eagles0513875> if you did i can confirm your bug report
[20:41] <Gustin> at first I thought it was a 7.10 problem (my desktop at home), but my 8.04 laptop does not connect either
[20:42] <Gustin> I have not filled one out yet
[20:42] <eagles0513875> im on 8.04
[20:42] <eagles0513875> Gustin: if you file one i will confirm it for you
[20:43] <eagles0513875> Gustin: just provide me a link
[20:44] <djdarkman> ikonia: I don`t need/want good reputation, I just tried to help, but to no avail, so I said what I wanted to, I tried, and I can`t do more, having the option to use unstable drivers, and be warned is not to the same as not having them at all, that`s all, I don`t realy care if it would work in ubuntu or the vanilla kernel, I just wanted to help out the people with this hardware
[20:45] <eagles0513875> Gustin: ill be right back amarok isnt working as well
[20:45] <ikonia> djdarkman: your missing the point - ubuntu doesnt control the kernel, so saying "ubuntu should include this" is pointless, the kernel is nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:47] <Gustin> djdarkman: lemme guess, wifi driver issues
[20:47] <djdarkman> ikonia: nvidia drivers aren`t included in the kernel nor does ati, and friends, if I would be wrong there wouldn`t be fwcutter and other projects out there, than neighter restricted drivers manager wouldn`t exists
[20:47] <ikonia> djdarkman: its not a restricte binary driver
[20:47] <djdarkman> Gustin: no, webcam driver
[20:47] <ikonia> djdarkman: it's an open source driver thats not fit for use
[20:48] <ikonia> djdarkman: hence why it's not in the kernel
[20:48] <djdarkman> ikonia: is a closed source driver more fit to be sused than an early open source one? or maybe an early closed source one?
[20:48] <Coggx> anyone here got a phillips SPC camera?
[20:48] <Gustin> ubuntu has a pretty recent kernel as it is, asking for a more bleeding edge one is asking for trouble
[20:48] <ikonia> djdarkman: who said anything about being sued ?
[20:49] <ikonia> djdarkman: again - I don't think your understanding
[20:49] <ikonia> djdarkman: however this is not an ubuntu issue so I suggest is't dropped from this channel and other ubuntu ones
[20:49] <djdarkman> ikonia: *used
[20:49] <eagles0513875> Gustin: just rebooted its working now
[20:49] <Gustin> I'll try later, though it has been having issues on and off for a week
[20:49] <Coggx> anyone here use a MTMini tpye multi touch setup?
[20:49] <ikonia> djdarkman: yes, a closed source driver that works is more suitable than an unstable open source one, contact the people who maintain the unstable driver and help them make it stable
[20:50] <Gustin> I don't want to have to shut down my VMs and power them up
[20:50] <djdarkman> ikonia: #define stable
[20:50] <Coggx> i have touchlib compiled, and osc
[20:50] <eagles0513875> Gustin: seems like today i have had the issue
[20:50] <ikonia> djdarkman: works against supported dependencies
[20:50] <eagles0513875> Gustin: you know you can pause them
[20:50] <Gustin> yes, but it takes a while to unpause
[20:50] <djdarkman> ikonia: I complied it on hardy and it works
[20:50] <ikonia> djdarkman: one man - well done
[20:50] <Gustin> almost as long as a normal boot
[20:51] <ikonia> djdarkman: thats not "stable or supported", as I said take it up with the maintainers - not ubuntu
[20:51] <Gustin> besides I am at work on my laptop, not the speedies hard drive :)
[20:51] <djdarkman> ikonia: how do you expect others to do so if they don`t even know that it exists? :)
[20:51] <ikonia> djdarkman: I don't - I expect for the package maintainers to make it main stream
[20:51] <Gustin> djdarkman: personal responisibilty?
[20:52] <ikonia> Gustin: exactly
[20:52] <ikonia> again though, I suggest this is dropped - this is not an ubuntu issue
[20:52] <ikonia> its nothing to do with any ubuntu release
[20:52] <Gustin> there are lots of things I would love to get working today, like my crappy boradcom wifi card
[20:52] <Gustin> erm broadcom
[20:53] <djdarkman> Gustin: have that on my own laptop
[20:53] <eagles0513875> Gustin: talk to me dude i have a broadcom
[20:53] <Gustin> ther kernel driver does not work still
[20:53] <eagles0513875> Gustin: works outa box for me just about
[20:53] <Gustin> even the latest 2.6.25
[20:53] <djdarkman> and got congratulated for making a site and putting a correct howto there
[20:53] <eagles0513875> Gustin: do lspci and tell me what exact model it is
[20:53] <djdarkman> because others had the same issue
[20:53] <Gustin> BCM94311MCG
[20:53] <djdarkman> but in hardy all was fixed
[20:54] <Gustin> I have been following it for the 1.5 years I have had this laptop
[20:54] <eagles0513875> Gustin: ok i have any older 4306 and with the restricted drivers manager and it finds it not sure about your card
[20:54] <Gustin> ndiswrapper works, but not the native b43 driver
[20:54] <djdarkman> Gustin: me too, I was the happiest man, when I got my card working back hten with ndiswrapper
[20:54] <Gustin> by native I mean upstream kernel.org integrated driver
[20:54] <eagles0513875> Gustin: when you run dmesg is there a link that comes in that message
[20:54] <Gustin> ndiswrapper feels like surrender to me :)
[20:55] <eagles0513875> Gustin: try this site and see if your card is supported yet
[20:55] <eagles0513875> Gustin: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/
[20:55] <Gustin> especially since I replaced the NIC in my eeepc and it works out of the box with ubuntu
[20:55] <eagles0513875> Gustin: nice u got an eee and running kubuntu
[20:55] <Gustin> it works with ndiswrapper
[20:55] <Gustin> my broadcomm that is
[20:56] <diego_> hola
[20:56] <diego_> heyas
[20:56] <diego_> I need some help
[20:56] <diego_> to install my webcam
[20:56] <diego_> can anyone help me?
[20:56] <djdarkman> yeah but running a binary blob that was compiled for windows under linux is just as evil as running an "unstable" open source driver
[20:56] <eagles0513875> diego_: explain ur issue in detail and see if anyone can help ya
[20:57] <eagles0513875> mines working fine there r some bugs in the network manager in regards to wifi and connecting to networks but it works for me
[20:57] <diego_> basically I run cheese and it appears as if I dont have webcam installed
[20:57] <diego_> I have a Sony VAIO laptop
[20:57] <diego_> with webcam included
[20:57] <diego_> works in Vista.... but doesnt want to work in Ubuntu
[20:58] <Iro> Hi all i got a quick question: what to add to the boot parameters when it freezes during livecd boot ?
[20:58] <FoxIII> genii, woo! It's nearly setup! It's picking up the network correctly and the strength of the signal, but when I try putting in the password, it says unable to connect. Here's the stage I've got to so far: http://www.thumoo.com/images/snapshot1.png
[20:58] <djdarkman> diego_: try lsusb, and google for the device ID
[20:59] <diego_> I did that
[21:01] <djdarkman> and nothing diego_?
[21:01] <diego_> yeah
[21:01] <diego_> found lots
[21:01] <diego_> ID 05ca:183b Ricoh Co., Ltd
[21:01] <diego_> but followed the instructions and nothing....
[21:02] <eagles0513875> any kernel customizers in here
[21:02] <diego_> I'll try now with any of the other results in Google
[21:03] <djdarkman> diego_: you tried this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=ffX&q=05ca%3A183b+linux&btnG=Search
[21:03] <djdarkman> ?>
[21:03] <FoxIII> diego_, have you looked in the ubuntu hardware list?
[21:04] <diego_> nope
[21:05] <Gustin> eagles0513875: I build my own kernels... usually
[21:05] <pixel386> how do I change power management settings in kubuntu?  I just installed KDE (the kubuntu-desktop package), can't find something similar to the gnome tool
[21:05] <diego_> trying now
[21:05] <pixel386> I'd primarily just like to make sure that it recognizes the lid getting closed and then suspends
[21:05] <Gustin> right click on the battery
[21:05] <diego_> trying now djdarkman
[21:05] <eagles0513875> Gustin: your nick registered
[21:05] <pixel386> the power management in the battery is only temporary/instant stuff
[21:05] <Gustin> maybe not
[21:06] <djdarkman> diego_: i hope you find a solution, if you do, post it on the ubuntu wiki, I will do the same, have no other options
[21:07] <eagles0513875> !register | Gustin
[21:08] <xfls> hey guy, i have a problem viewing web pages which contain flash baners/videos
[21:09] <xfls> the cpu usage is over 50% when viewing 1-2 pages
[21:09] <eagles0513875> Gustin: let me know when u have signed in
[21:09] <andres> algun latino acá ??
[21:09] <xfls> and..that's not depending on the browser firefox/opera/konqueror
[21:10] <eagles0513875> !es | andres
[21:10] <eagles0513875> andres: que linuga tu hablas mi amigo
[21:10] <andres> espanish
[21:10] <andres> spanish
[21:10] <andres> latino carnal
[21:10] <eagles0513875> andres: see channel above
[21:11] <xfls> that's on kubuntu 8.04 and lates versions of the browsers and adobe flash plugin..can someone help me?
[21:11] <eagles0513875> !es | andres
[21:11] <andres> ok
[21:11] <eagles0513875> Gustin: did u get my pm dude
[21:11] <Gustin> eagles0513875: apparently my name is already registered
[21:12] <diego_> ok, thanks djdarkman
[21:17] <FoxIII> Woo! Nearly setup my wireless card! It's picking up the network correctly and the strength of the signal, but when I try putting in the password, it says unable to connect. Here's the stage I've got to so far: http://www.thumoo.com/images/snapshot1.png Anyone have any ideas what I need to do now? TIA
[21:18] <andres> algun otro hispano por aca ??
[21:19] <diego_> when I try to use the "sudo make" command
[21:19] <diego_> it tells me this
[21:19] <diego_> make[2]: *** [/home/diego/Desktop/r5u870/r5u870_md.o] Error 1
[21:19] <diego_> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/diego/Desktop/r5u870] Error 2
[21:19] <diego_> make[1]: se sale del directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic'
[21:19] <diego_> make: *** [all] Error 2
[21:19] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[21:19] <xfls> some suggestions about my problem?
[21:19] <eagles0513875> !pastebin | diego_
[21:19] <eagles0513875> !patience | xfls
[21:19] <diego_> k
[21:19] <diego_> sorry
[21:19] <FoxIII> !es
[21:21] <andres> algun latino por acá ??
[21:21] <andres> de prefenrencia mujer
[21:21] <jussi01> andres: english only in here please
[21:22] <andres> foock you jussi01
[21:22] <andres> im speke spanish  putos gringos
[21:22] <psyco> Anyone know how to fix the black menus when KDE and Baghira mix?
[21:23] <eagles0513875> !virtualbox | Gustin
[21:37] <andres> www.masfresa.com
[21:38] <andres> www.masfresa.com
[21:38] <andres> visit www.masfresa.com
[21:39] <andres> hi !! visit www.masfresa.com
[21:43] <jtisme> jussi01, not knowing all the rules i gather it is outside the scope of this channel to advertise a web site when not answering a question?
[21:43] <Roey> Hi, why do I get this weird error when mounting my SD card??  http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/software/345276-unable-mount-removable-media-hal-storage-removable-mount.html  <-- is there a fix for this?
[21:45] <jussi01> !guidelines | jtisme
[21:45] <jtisme> jussi01, thanks
[21:47] <jussi01> jtisme: yw
[21:47] <Guest58586> can i get a default source.list for 8.04?
[21:49] <Guest58586> plz?
[21:53] <szakulec> for the users of S/MIME here, is thawte the best choice for a certificate?
[22:00] <alanx> good day people
[22:00] <david_> hey man i need some help
[22:00] <oldbluebox> I need help as well...
[22:00] <msi> por favor pa cambiar a español
[22:00] <david_> what do you need
[22:01] <oldbluebox> I'm getting an error when i'm trying to install kubuntu on my laptop
[22:01] <david_> describe it
[22:01] <oldbluebox> I burned the .iso on a cd, when I install it, about 45% into the installation it says:
[22:01] <oldbluebox> error, input output, cannot write
[22:02] <oldbluebox> this may be due to a problem with the hard disk, cd etc.
[22:02] <david_> are you installing it on a partition
[22:02] <msi> para cambiar a kubuntu español
[22:02] <bassem> guys ... how can i update to Kubntu 8.04 from alternate CD ?
[22:02] <alanx> msi, tranquilo
[22:02] <oldbluebox> it locked up the first time at 45%, then again at 35%, then again at 48%
[22:03] <alanx> durante la instalacion puedes elegir el idioma
[22:03] <oldbluebox> David: im trying just a full install, it gives me 3 options
[22:03] <david_> is it a partition
[22:03] <david_> that you are installingit on
[22:03] <oldbluebox> i'm not really sure what that means, i'm kinda new to this, i'm sorry
[22:03] <oldbluebox> it asks if I want to do 50% ubuntu and 50%kubuntu, then a full install, then a manual instal
[22:03] <oldbluebox> install*
[22:04] <oldbluebox> I chose the full install
[22:04] <oldbluebox> or the second option.
[22:04] <oldbluebox> -_-
[22:05] <jtisme> !sp |msi
[22:05] <msi> es la tercera vez que instalo Kubuntu,, y caundo actulizo o instalo reinicio y ya..  error 15 : file no found...
[22:06] <msi> que puede estar pasando..?
 mi recomendacion es que instales el kubuntu
[22:06] <alanx> sin estar conectado al internet
[22:07] <msi> okis
[22:07] <alanx> luego de haber instalado el kubuntu lo puedes actualizar
[22:07] <jtisme> !spanish |msi
[22:07] <msi> gracias
[22:07] <jtisme> msi denada
, what are you trying to say?
[22:08] <alanx> do you know spanish?
[22:08] <jtisme> alanx very little
 where are you right now?
[22:09] <jtisme> alanx in woodstock, ga  usa
[22:09] <jussi01> !tab | alanx
[22:10] <alanx> ok, thanks
[22:10] <jussi01> :)
[22:11] <alanx> anybody want some class of spanish?
[22:12] <alanx> just for get fun here
[22:12] <alanx> just a little time
[22:14] <alanx> no one?
[22:15] <jtisme> alanx nice of you to offer but i believe that is outside of the channel rules
[22:15] <jussi01> alanx: not really the place for it - try #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:16]  * jussi01 hugs jtisme
[22:16] <jtisme> jussi01, i read every single word of the IRC guidlines you sent me. i guess i retained some of it
[22:16] <jtisme> :)
[22:17] <jussi01> jtisme: its nice that someone is following the rules :)
[22:19] <bipolar> Can someone please remind me where KDE3 stores it's global desktop icons? I've set these up before but can't for the life of me remember where they go.
[22:20] <Gustin> "/usr/share/icons"?
[22:21] <bipolar> Gustin: thats not it... what I mean is icons that show up on every users desktop.
[22:21] <bipolar> .desktop files
[22:22] <Gustin> ahh
[22:25] <alanx> here I just look how everybody leaves
[22:29] <psyco> WHat version of KDE is hardy (not 4)
[22:29] <psyco> 3.2+ ??
[22:30] <bipolar> psyco: 3.5.9
[22:31] <psyco> Ahh thank you.
[22:31] <psyco> Anyone know how to fix the black menus in Baghira?
[22:35] <mapomapo> salve a tutti
[22:43] <devil> HI
[22:45] <philosopher> ... people, i have one question:
[22:46] <philosopher> i've just installed Kubuntu 8.04 on other PC, which not connected to internet. i need to download ukrainian locale package and Wine. where i can get it?
[22:49] <wimpies> How can I tell kaffeine to automatically select a certain subtitle language ?
[23:00] <bipolar> Is anyone using koisktool on hardy?
[23:00] <bipolar> it seems to be pretty badly broken here.
[23:01] <bipolar> When I try to setup desktop icons, my desktop becomes set to "/"
[23:01] <Tokeiito> good evening. i have problem with sound. when i'm trying to launch Amarok, i'm getting xine error, that resurces is busy. how to solve that without restarting PC?
[23:02] <milaks> Hi. Can I use Wubi installer with one existing kubuntu install image on hard drive, to install kubuntu on my former (ext3) Linux partitions?
[23:02] <milaks> which do exist
[23:14] <jeroen__> Hi
[23:14] <jeroen__> I've got a problem with the screen resolution from my Ubuntu
[23:15] <jeroen__> I have this computer at a 1024x.. screen but I can only choose 640x480
[23:17] <philosopher> jeroen__, you probably are using live cd...
[23:18] <philosopher> jeroen__ in Live CD mode i suppose there is no better resolution support
[23:18] <enterusername> when was the last time libdvdcss was upadteD?
[23:18] <enterusername> I can't play any new dvds on my linux box :(
[23:18] <enterusername> anyone have suggestions?
[23:20] <jeroen__>  I installed it, then I had the good resolution, I installed all my updates, reboot, and now I have this resolution
[23:20] <rickest> enterusername: you mean libdvdcss2?
[23:20] <enterusername> umm yes :)
[23:21] <enterusername> It doesnt appaer to be working with new cd's
[23:21] <enterusername> where do i get the latest version ? Lst one i see is 2005 on videolan
[23:21] <rickest> enterusername: do you get a specific error?
[23:21] <enterusername> no.. i dont :( I tried SVN on videolan and i got segfault
[23:21] <enterusername> Is there a repository I can get it from?
[23:22] <enterusername> rickest: should all dvds work?
[23:22] <rickest> enterusername: the one in *buntu's Medibuntu respository works fine for me
[23:22] <philosopher> anyone: can you download a llocale for me and send me that lang pack?
[23:22] <rickest> enterusername: afaik
[23:22] <enterusername> ok.. ill look
[23:27] <enterusername> sigh
[23:27] <enterusername> It's saying its not installed when it is :S
[23:28] <enterusername> ill try again later :)
[23:32] <darkdelusions> What?
[23:46] <askand> haha is it try that kde4 doesnt allow icons to have more then five characters?
[23:50] <psyco> Is there a way to change the size of the systray icons???