| ghindo | The alpha still hasn't been released yet, right? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| ethana2 | I'll check | 00:04 |
| ethana2 | not last I knew | 00:04 |
| ethana2 | nope. | 00:05 |
| ghindo | Drat :/ | 00:05 |
| ethana2 | indeed | 00:05 |
| ghindo | I guess this just confirms that 8.04.1 is gonna be solid, but still | 00:05 |
| ethana2 | I'm very much looking forward to it | 00:05 |
| ethana2 | yeah | 00:05 |
| ghindo | Have you enabled the Intrepid repos? | 00:06 |
| ethana2 | so what makes the 8-4 .1 different from 8-4? | 00:06 |
| ethana2 | nope | 00:06 |
| ethana2 | do they just let themselves change bigger things? | 00:06 |
| ghindo | I'm not sure, exactly. | 00:06 |
| ghindo | I think it's just an updated snapshot so that people won't have to run as many upgrades on their system | 00:08 |
| ethana2 | oh | 00:08 |
| ethana2 | well that's good too | 00:08 |
| ghindo | We've gone what - two kernel updates since 8.04 was released? | 00:08 |
| ethana2 | something like that | 00:08 |
| ghindo | So 8.04.1 will have the current kernel and updated packages (things like Firefox 3 instead of Firefox 3 Beta 5) | 00:09 |
| ethana2 | is intrepid going to use p2p served LZMA compressed updates? | 00:11 |
| ethana2 | I don't know if they have a spec yet.. | 00:11 |
| ghindo | What is that? | 00:12 |
| RAOF | ethana2: You mean with debtorrent and new dpkg? | 00:13 |
| ethana2 | ooh! | 00:14 |
| ethana2 | is that a 'maybe'? | 00:14 |
| ethana2 | what new dpkg? | 00:14 |
| RAOF | That's a "some things already use lzma" for the second, and a "bittorrent doesn't seem to me to be a good protocol for updates" to the second. | 00:15 |
| ghindo | I don't think Intrepid will have debtorrent build-in... | 00:15 |
| RAOF | ethana2: At least for apt updates; it can work when large numbers of people want to download many megabytes worth of WoW updates, but I'm not sure that apt updates follow that pattern. | 00:16 |
| ethana2 | as long as you keep one tracker | 00:16 |
| ethana2 | what can it hurt? | 00:17 |
| ethana2 | we have checksums for data verification | 00:17 |
| ethana2 | it shouldn't try to alienate leechers though | 00:17 |
| ethana2 | it should just be one client | 00:17 |
| ethana2 | I'd just rather canonical spend money on devs than bandwidth | 00:18 |
| RAOF | It can hurt by making things slower? By opening a world-visible port? | 00:18 |
| RAOF | ethana2: That's what mirrors are for. There are tons of them :) | 00:18 |
| ethana2 | yeah I know | 00:18 |
| ethana2 | but a default install | 00:18 |
| ethana2 | doesn't seem to locate the best by default | 00:18 |
| ethana2 | you have to go in and do it | 00:18 |
| ethana2 | it should be part of setting up | 00:19 |
| RAOF | It should at least hit the local (.au, or whatever) mirror, although I haven't installed with Ubiquity, ever. | 00:19 |
| ethana2 | hmm | 00:19 |
| ethana2 | well, you all know what you're doing more than I do | 00:19 |
| ghindo | Ubiquity doesn't set up mirrors, either :( | 00:20 |
| RAOF | It's entirely possible it _doesn't_ choose a local mirror, that should probably be a bug. | 00:20 |
| ghindo | I wish Ubuntu did it by default, although it's really not that big a deal | 00:20 |
| pen | how's the intrpid? | 00:23 |
| pen | good? | 00:23 |
| ethana2 | I think memaker may need a rework | 00:24 |
| ethana2 | beards just aren't plug and play | 00:24 |
| * RAOF will quote that | 00:25 | |
| ethana2 | oh great | 00:25 |
| ethana2 | lol | 00:25 |
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| lastent | Hi, does anyone knows what is happening with the alpha 1? | 03:53 |
| IdleOne | !alpha | 03:53 |
| ubottu | Factoid alpha not found | 03:53 |
| IdleOne | not sure. remember seeing something about the release being pushed back for some reason | 03:54 |
| ethana2 | 8.04.1 | 03:58 |
| YokoZar | Is there a testing CD image out yet, or does that have to wait until Alpha 1? | 04:22 |
| ethana2 | probably nightlies | 04:25 |
| ethana2 | if you're crazy | 04:25 |
| ethana2 | I mean I'm crazy | 04:25 |
| ethana2 | but not /that/ crazy | 04:25 |
| lastent | qa.ubuntu.com | 04:27 |
| RAOF | Real men update with sed. | 04:27 |
| RAOF | * Disclaimer: Real men may also have broken Intrepid installs | 04:28 |
| josh_ | what does the video playback plugin do in compiz-fusion | 06:17 |
| teethdood | josh_: I guess it allows you to playback videos? for a time we couldn't play videos while using compiz | 06:34 |
| teethdood | still can't play tux racer under compiz without flickering | 06:36 |
| DanaG | Woah, that's odd: my deskbar icon is now randomly very huge. | 07:07 |
| DanaG | Huge, as in something like 200 or 300 pixels wide. | 07:07 |
| DanaG | It doesn't stretch the panel vertically, but it does push stuff sideways. | 07:07 |
| RAOF | teethdood: The video plugin adds an interface for compiz-accelerated video that absolutely nothing uses. | 07:09 |
| RAOF | It's utterly useless. | 07:10 |
| teethdood | RAOF: how did they solve the problem of compiz not allowing video playback? | 07:11 |
| RAOF | It was a driver bug. | 07:11 |
| RAOF | They're _always_ driver bugs. | 07:11 |
| RAOF | It was fixed by fixing the driver :) | 07:11 |
| teethdood | sure took a long time to fix that bug | 07:12 |
| RAOF | Yeah. The X infrastructure isn't/wasn't particularly good; compiz exposed gaping flaws in X. | 07:14 |
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| Ziroday | has alpha 1 been released yet? | 10:18 |
| catweazle | no Ziroday | 10:20 |
| Ziroday | catweazle: darn, thanks | 10:20 |
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| bardyr | Hey, does anybody know of a ppa to get network-manager 0.7 in intrepid? and what do i do to get the nvidia binary installed? | 13:08 |
| DanaG | Is it just me, or is /sbin/lrm-manager missing in the lastest linux-restricted-modules-common package? | 17:02 |
| DanaG | Oh, and something keeps spamming my console with: | 17:03 |
| DanaG | * Starting anac(h)ronistic cron anacron | 17:03 |
| DanaG | Over and over and over, every few seconds. | 17:03 |
| DanaG | Just start the **** daemon ONCE, please! And stop spamming my consoles! | 17:04 |
| DanaG | Yay, chmod -x. | 17:05 |
| DanaG | Great, and the 2.6.24 one is GONE from the repos. | 17:09 |
| DanaG | Now I have to go dig around on the mirrors for the deb file. | 17:09 |
| DanaG | Anybody able to help me with this? | 17:13 |
| DanaG | The mirrors don't have the old version, either! | 17:13 |
| DanaG | At least, mirrors.kernel.org doesn't! | 17:13 |
| DanaG | Aah, it's not under linux-restricted-modules-common dir.... it's under linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 dir. | 17:15 |
| DanaG | Anybody know how to install the nvidia driver on 2.6.26 with Xen? | 18:00 |
| DanaG | The nvdiia installer won't do it..... and /sbin/lrm-video is entirely GONE. | 18:00 |
| DanaG | Hmm, if I have these files, how do I build a deb? | 18:06 |
| DanaG | .orig.tar.gz .diff.gz .dsc .changes .build | 18:06 |
| Pici | !newpackage | 18:07 |
| ubottu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 18:07 |
| DanaG | http://www.linux-archive.org/ubuntu-kernel-team/109806-wip-nvidia-packages-intrepid-tseliot.html | 18:08 |
| DanaG | Doesn't exactly say how to build the thing. | 18:09 |
| DanaG | aah, dpkg-source | 18:10 |
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| DanaG | !find lrm-manager | 18:13 |
| ubottu | Package/file lrm-manager does not exist in intrepid | 18:13 |
| DanaG | !find lrm-manager hardy | 18:13 |
| ubottu | File lrm-manager found in linux-restricted-modules-common | 18:13 |
| DanaG | That was way odd.... I just had something kill my music playback... and I randomly got the login sound played on my internal sound card! | 18:14 |
| DanaG | What the heck? | 18:15 |
| DanaG | It just did it AGAIN! | 18:15 |
| DanaG | And it re-muted my external sound card! | 18:15 |
| _anna | Hello | 18:47 |
| DanaG | Argh, damn nvidia. | 18:49 |
| DanaG | I can't use the nvidia drivers with the 2.6.26 kernel. | 18:49 |
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| gnomefreak | DanaG: yes you can but its some work to do it | 19:07 |
| gnomefreak | darrend: after rebuilding my xorg.conf i was restarting gdm but you need to restart whole system :( | 19:07 |
| gnomefreak | ack | 19:08 |
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| Coiotes | Is it possible to download an intrepid ISO, or would it be best to install Hardy then change sources.list? I plan only to test using a Virtual Machine | 22:10 |
| pheeror | is there a intrepid iso? | 22:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think there is an iso yet | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | the only way right now is to change hardy to intrepid in sources.list in a hardy install | 22:20 |
| Coiotes | hmm | 22:34 |
| Coiotes | does intrepid look/feel/act that different from hardy yet? | 22:34 |
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