[16:33] <popey> is the missing gpe-announcer a known bug for gpe-clock and thus ubuntu-mobile package install?
[17:51] <lool> popey: gpe-announcer?  I don't think I recall seeing this miinstalling
[17:51] <lool> *misinstalling
[17:51] <lool> popey: How are you installing?
[17:51] <popey> its a dependancy of gpe-clock
[17:51] <popey> which is a dependancy of ubuntu-mobile
[17:52] <popey> so ubuntu-mobile fails to install as a result
[17:52]  * ogra bets popey misses a repo 
[17:52] <lool> popey: How do you install ubuntu-mobile?
[17:52] <lool> popey: apt-cache policy ubuntu-mobile? :)
[17:52] <popey> I did a base install of jeos and apt-got a few bits and bobs, including ubuntu-mobile
[17:52] <lool> popey: These packages are definitely installable in the hardy images if you use the ubuntu-mobile ppa
[17:53] <lool> popey: Right, so you miss the ppa in your sources
[17:53] <lool> But then we shouldn't have leaked this in the main seed
[17:53] <popey> i have the ubuntu-mobile ppa
[17:53] <ogra> hardy-updates ?
[17:53] <popey> one mo, will spark it up
[17:58] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/sources.list
[17:58] <popey> proposed seems to be the only one missing
[17:59] <lool> popey: Are you using some vm?
[17:59] <popey> ya, qemu
[17:59] <popey> with the root fs on an sdhc
[18:00] <lool> popey: So after apt-get update, what's the version of ubuntu-mobile you get in apt-cache policy?
[18:00] <lool> popey: And what's the apt-get install error again?
[18:01] <lool> popey: Also, not really an answer to your problem, but we provide a script to create qemu images of UME
[18:01] <popey> it's not really a qemu image I am after tbh
[18:01] <ogra> lool, a dep on gpe-announcer
[18:01] <popey> I am using qemu on my big laptop to install onto an sdhc, which i will put in the eee pc
[18:02] <popey> gpe-clock deps on gpe-announcer
[18:02] <lool> popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/UMEinstall-kvm is an old version I think
[18:02] <lool> ogra: There's a broken dep?
[18:02] <popey> candidate is ubuntu-mobile 1.103~804um14
[18:02] <ogra> no idea
[18:02] <ogra> but its the second ime i see that complaint in here from different persons
[18:02] <ogra> *time
[18:04] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/um.txt
[18:04] <popey> thats me trying to apt-get install ubuntu-mobile then gpe-clock
[18:07] <ogra> root@osiris:/# apt-cache show gpe-clock|grep announce
[18:07] <ogra> root@osiris:/#
[18:07] <ogra> no direct dep at least
[18:07] <ogra> root@osiris:/# apt-cache show ubuntu-mobile|grep clock
[18:07] <ogra> root@osiris:/#
[18:07] <ogra> same for u-m 
[18:08] <ogra> root@osiris:/# apt-cache policy ubuntu-mobile           
[18:08] <ogra> ubuntu-mobile:
[18:08] <ogra>   Installed: (none)
[18:08] <ogra>   Candidate: 1.102
[18:08] <ogra>   Version table:
[18:08] <ogra>      1.102 0
[18:08] <ogra>         500 http://ports.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages
[18:08] <popey> ah
[18:08] <popey> i dont have ports.
[18:08] <ogra> yeah
[18:09] <ogra> lpi is on ports.u.c
[18:09] <ogra> *lpia
[18:16] <lool> Ah
[18:16] <lool> Perhaps it needs porting
[18:16] <ogra> i wonder how it worked at all without ports
[18:17] <ogra> a.u.c doesnt (or shouldnt) have any lpia packages 
[18:18] <lool> He's not using lpia
[18:18] <persia> ume-announcer is one of the packages that isn't in the archives: it's only in the PPA.
[18:18] <persia> Needs REVU, not just archive reorg.
[18:19] <ogra> ume-announcer == gpe-announcer ? 
[18:19] <persia> The Ubuntu Mobile gpe-clock depends on ume-announcer, if I remember correctly
[18:19]  * persia checks
[18:20]  * lool goes for dinner
[18:21] <popey> so it's a typo in the deps of gpe-clock perhaps?
[18:21] <popey> given it says gpe-announcer instead of ume-announcer?
[18:21]  * lool pushes smb's packaging
[18:23] <persia> For me, it says "gpe-announce" on intrepid, no announcer for vaniilla hardy, and ume-announcer for Ubuntu Mobile hardy.
[18:23] <persia> Where do you find "gpe-announcer"?
[18:24] <popey> gpe-clock 0.25-3 doesn't have the dependancy, but 0.25-4ubuntu11 does
[18:24] <popey> Version: 0.25-4ubuntu11
[18:24] <popey> Depends: at, gpe-announcer, gpe-icons, libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libc6 (>= 2.4), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgpelaunch0 (>= 0.14), libgpeschedule0, libgpewidget1 (>= 0.115), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.1), libx11-6
[18:25] <persia> Right.  That's just insufficiently tested for !=lpia.
[18:26] <persia> Looks like you have the PPA, and are running i386, which is currently likely to be broken.
[18:26] <popey> correct :)
[18:26] <popey> bummer
[18:27] <persia> popey: There are unfortunately a variety of other hacks that make Ubuntu Mobile Ubuntu Mobile, that depend on the architecture being lpia.
[18:27] <persia> The plan is to remove these, but until then I recommend you run lpia.
[18:28] <popey> thanks
[18:28] <persia> If you can't get the lpia kernels to boot, I believe you ought be able to use an i386 kernel and lpia userspace (although I've not tested it).
[18:29] <persia> Otherwise you're better off with a custom matchbox-based GNOME for now.
[18:29] <ogra> should work given that lpia is simply i686
[18:30] <persia> The reason being that quite a few apps won't be hildonised on other than lpia, which isn't ideal.
[18:30] <popey> will give that a go, thanks!
[18:46] <lool> wow something wicked happened when I launched the kvm and switched desktop
[18:47] <lool> I'm scared
[18:47] <lool> Anyway, I'm happy to report that the virtual-mobile-package WFM
[18:48] <lool> popey: If you use the script I mentionned, it wil pull lpia instead of i386 by default
[18:51] <davmor2> popey: not causing waves I hope :P
[18:53]  * lool discovers dget-lp
[18:54] <lool> Hackish, but might work, interesting at least
[18:55] <persia> lool: It mostly works, although dget off ppa.launchpad.net is cleaner.
[18:56] <lool> persia: I'm using a custom dsc lister here which throws ppa.l.n URLs at me
[18:56] <ogra> where is that hidden ? (which package) 
[18:56] <lool> ogra: ubuntu-dev-tools
[18:56] <ogra> i only have dget
[18:57] <lool> I find it handy to get .dsc lists for Debian, Ubuntu, and any other repos I care, whatever the dist
[18:57] <persia> ogra: Same place we keep all the extra-hacky-dev-bits :)
[18:57] <lool> It simply queries the pool
[18:57] <ogra> heh, i never have anything but devscripts and build-essential installed :)
[18:57] <persia> lool: The entire PPA pool, or just ubuntu-mobile?
[18:57] <lool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22389/
[18:57]  * ogra tries out the ubuntu-dev-tools package
[18:58] <lool> persia: Only ubuntu-mobile; I simply hardcoded which repos to query in the script
[18:58] <persia> ogra: If you have any handy dev hacks, please share there...
[18:58] <lool> I could make it more generic I guess, but it wouldn't really be useful to me
[18:58] <ogra> persia, well, i tend to do things manually very often but will keep that in mind
[18:58]  * lool has hacks, but like giving them in secret
[18:58] <lool> *likes
[18:59] <persia> lool: Is that based on your apt-cache, or something more complex?
[18:59] <lool> It's like sharing a cooking recipe, I wouldn't blog about it, only if I ever make it to someone would I tell them how to make it :)
[18:59] <lool> persia: It's querying the pool itself
[18:59] <lool> persia: As in, directory index of http://archive.fo
[18:59] <ogra> i have uploaded my classmate builder bzr branch though ... since its likely not to be used anymore in the future but probably someone can get deas out of the code :)
[18:59] <ogra> *ideas
[19:00]  * lool => drives home ²
[19:00]  * lool &
[19:00] <persia> heh
[19:00] <ogra> https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/cmpc/cmpc-gen1-installer in case anyone is intrested 
[19:03] <lool> I've pushed vmb to the ~vmb ppa; if you know what that means, you're welcome to give it a try when it's built ;)
[23:23] <becky> when is ubuntu mobile set to be released?
[23:23] <becky> I am wanting to get a nokia n810
[23:31] <becky> anyone?
[23:35] <stgraber> Nokia n810 has an ARM cpu, not x86. You can't use Ubuntu mobile on it (yet)
[23:39] <becky> stgraber: do you think it will work when it is compiled for ARM? it only has 128MB ram
[23:43] <stgraber> my test VM for UME has 128MB of ram
[23:54] <becky> stgraber: great! any idea on ARM release date?
[23:56] <stgraber> no but that won't be soon. AFAIK ARM was discussed in Prague last month so I don't think much happened since then