=== Zic_ is now known as Zic === asac_ is now known as asac === ogra_ is now known as ogra === emgent_ is now known as emgent [16:33] is the missing gpe-announcer a known bug for gpe-clock and thus ubuntu-mobile package install? [17:51] popey: gpe-announcer? I don't think I recall seeing this miinstalling [17:51] *misinstalling [17:51] popey: How are you installing? [17:51] its a dependancy of gpe-clock [17:51] which is a dependancy of ubuntu-mobile [17:52] so ubuntu-mobile fails to install as a result [17:52] * ogra bets popey misses a repo [17:52] popey: How do you install ubuntu-mobile? [17:52] popey: apt-cache policy ubuntu-mobile? :) [17:52] I did a base install of jeos and apt-got a few bits and bobs, including ubuntu-mobile [17:52] popey: These packages are definitely installable in the hardy images if you use the ubuntu-mobile ppa [17:53] popey: Right, so you miss the ppa in your sources [17:53] But then we shouldn't have leaked this in the main seed [17:53] i have the ubuntu-mobile ppa [17:53] hardy-updates ? [17:53] one mo, will spark it up [17:58] http://popey.com/~alan/sources.list [17:58] proposed seems to be the only one missing [17:59] popey: Are you using some vm? [17:59] ya, qemu [17:59] with the root fs on an sdhc [18:00] popey: So after apt-get update, what's the version of ubuntu-mobile you get in apt-cache policy? [18:00] popey: And what's the apt-get install error again? [18:01] popey: Also, not really an answer to your problem, but we provide a script to create qemu images of UME [18:01] it's not really a qemu image I am after tbh [18:01] lool, a dep on gpe-announcer [18:01] I am using qemu on my big laptop to install onto an sdhc, which i will put in the eee pc [18:02] gpe-clock deps on gpe-announcer [18:02] popey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/UMEinstall-kvm is an old version I think [18:02] ogra: There's a broken dep? [18:02] candidate is ubuntu-mobile 1.103~804um14 [18:02] no idea [18:02] but its the second ime i see that complaint in here from different persons [18:02] *time [18:04] http://popey.com/~alan/um.txt [18:04] thats me trying to apt-get install ubuntu-mobile then gpe-clock [18:07] root@osiris:/# apt-cache show gpe-clock|grep announce [18:07] root@osiris:/# [18:07] no direct dep at least [18:07] root@osiris:/# apt-cache show ubuntu-mobile|grep clock [18:07] root@osiris:/# [18:07] same for u-m [18:08] root@osiris:/# apt-cache policy ubuntu-mobile [18:08] ubuntu-mobile: [18:08] Installed: (none) [18:08] Candidate: 1.102 [18:08] Version table: [18:08] 1.102 0 [18:08] 500 http://ports.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages [18:08] ah [18:08] i dont have ports. [18:08] yeah [18:09] lpi is on ports.u.c [18:09] *lpia [18:16] Ah [18:16] Perhaps it needs porting [18:16] i wonder how it worked at all without ports [18:17] a.u.c doesnt (or shouldnt) have any lpia packages [18:18] He's not using lpia [18:18] ume-announcer is one of the packages that isn't in the archives: it's only in the PPA. [18:18] Needs REVU, not just archive reorg. [18:19] ume-announcer == gpe-announcer ? [18:19] The Ubuntu Mobile gpe-clock depends on ume-announcer, if I remember correctly [18:19] * persia checks [18:20] * lool goes for dinner [18:21] so it's a typo in the deps of gpe-clock perhaps? [18:21] given it says gpe-announcer instead of ume-announcer? [18:21] * lool pushes smb's packaging [18:23] For me, it says "gpe-announce" on intrepid, no announcer for vaniilla hardy, and ume-announcer for Ubuntu Mobile hardy. [18:23] Where do you find "gpe-announcer"? [18:24] gpe-clock 0.25-3 doesn't have the dependancy, but 0.25-4ubuntu11 does [18:24] Version: 0.25-4ubuntu11 [18:24] Depends: at, gpe-announcer, gpe-icons, libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libc6 (>= 2.4), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgpelaunch0 (>= 0.14), libgpeschedule0, libgpewidget1 (>= 0.115), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.1), libx11-6 [18:25] Right. That's just insufficiently tested for !=lpia. [18:26] Looks like you have the PPA, and are running i386, which is currently likely to be broken. [18:26] correct :) [18:26] bummer [18:27] popey: There are unfortunately a variety of other hacks that make Ubuntu Mobile Ubuntu Mobile, that depend on the architecture being lpia. [18:27] The plan is to remove these, but until then I recommend you run lpia. [18:28] thanks [18:28] If you can't get the lpia kernels to boot, I believe you ought be able to use an i386 kernel and lpia userspace (although I've not tested it). [18:29] Otherwise you're better off with a custom matchbox-based GNOME for now. [18:29] should work given that lpia is simply i686 [18:30] The reason being that quite a few apps won't be hildonised on other than lpia, which isn't ideal. [18:30] will give that a go, thanks! === robr_ is now known as robr [18:46] wow something wicked happened when I launched the kvm and switched desktop [18:47] I'm scared [18:47] Anyway, I'm happy to report that the virtual-mobile-package WFM [18:48] popey: If you use the script I mentionned, it wil pull lpia instead of i386 by default [18:51] popey: not causing waves I hope :P [18:53] * lool discovers dget-lp [18:54] Hackish, but might work, interesting at least [18:55] lool: It mostly works, although dget off ppa.launchpad.net is cleaner. [18:56] persia: I'm using a custom dsc lister here which throws ppa.l.n URLs at me [18:56] where is that hidden ? (which package) [18:56] ogra: ubuntu-dev-tools [18:56] i only have dget [18:57] I find it handy to get .dsc lists for Debian, Ubuntu, and any other repos I care, whatever the dist [18:57] ogra: Same place we keep all the extra-hacky-dev-bits :) [18:57] It simply queries the pool [18:57] heh, i never have anything but devscripts and build-essential installed :) [18:57] lool: The entire PPA pool, or just ubuntu-mobile? [18:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/22389/ [18:57] * ogra tries out the ubuntu-dev-tools package [18:58] persia: Only ubuntu-mobile; I simply hardcoded which repos to query in the script [18:58] ogra: If you have any handy dev hacks, please share there... [18:58] I could make it more generic I guess, but it wouldn't really be useful to me [18:58] persia, well, i tend to do things manually very often but will keep that in mind [18:58] * lool has hacks, but like giving them in secret [18:58] *likes [18:59] lool: Is that based on your apt-cache, or something more complex? [18:59] It's like sharing a cooking recipe, I wouldn't blog about it, only if I ever make it to someone would I tell them how to make it :) [18:59] persia: It's querying the pool itself [18:59] persia: As in, directory index of http://archive.fo [18:59] i have uploaded my classmate builder bzr branch though ... since its likely not to be used anymore in the future but probably someone can get deas out of the code :) [18:59] *ideas [19:00] * lool => drives home ² [19:00] * lool & [19:00] heh [19:00] https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/cmpc/cmpc-gen1-installer in case anyone is intrested [19:03] I've pushed vmb to the ~vmb ppa; if you know what that means, you're welcome to give it a try when it's built ;) === emgent is now known as emgent` === matt_c_ is now known as matt_c [23:23] when is ubuntu mobile set to be released? [23:23] I am wanting to get a nokia n810 [23:31] anyone? [23:35] Nokia n810 has an ARM cpu, not x86. You can't use Ubuntu mobile on it (yet) [23:39] stgraber: do you think it will work when it is compiled for ARM? it only has 128MB ram [23:43] my test VM for UME has 128MB of ram [23:54] stgraber: great! any idea on ARM release date? [23:56] no but that won't be soon. AFAIK ARM was discussed in Prague last month so I don't think much happened since then