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lamontScottK: I admin a machine with dovecot+postfix/sasl, fwiw01:12
lamontI didn't install it though01:12
shelbyscateshey guys03:49
shelbyscates id really appreciate some help03:49
shelbyscatesi need a way for my computer to turn itself on at a certain time every day03:49
shelbyscatesive tried wol but i couldnt get it to work :'(03:50
shelbyscatesim willing to do almost anything besides strap a clock to it03:50
shelbyscatescan someone please help me do this?03:50
RoAkSoAxshelbyscates, cron jobs :)04:07
RoAkSoAxshelbyscates, or the at command04:07
shelbyscateswell... cron jobns dont work when the computer is off! :'(04:09
RoAkSoAxshelbyscates, oh my bad, i missread.. thought you said to turn off...04:10
shelbyscatesoh04:10
shelbyscatesok04:11
shelbyscates;)04:11
shelbyscateslol04:11
RoAkSoAxshelbyscates, maybe your bios supports that04:11
shelbyscatesit dosent :(04:11
RoAkSoAxshelbyscates, other than that then.. you'll maybe need a special device to do that..04:12
shelbyscates:\04:13
shelbyscateshow about wol?04:13
RoAkSoAxyeah a device that implements wol04:13
RoAkSoAxshelbyscates, take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN#Linux04:13
Alex_GaynorHi, I just got a VPS with ubuntu-8.04-minimal installed on it, and I'm trying to get setup, I created a new user with adduser, however when I try to ssh in I get a permission denied error, right now I am just logged in as root07:14
normanmAlex_Gaynor, did you set the shell to something valid ?07:21
normanmand set a password07:22
Alex_Gaynornormanm: I don't think I set it to anything07:22
Alex_GaynorI did set a passwor07:22
Alex_Gaynord07:22
Alex_GaynorThis is my first real server, so I'm just learning my way around, despite months on the desktop07:22
normanmlook at less /var/log/auth.log07:22
Alex_GaynorIt looks like shell=/bin/bash07:23
normanmno error in it ?07:24
Alex_GaynorWhenever I log on as root I get a message, id: cannot find name for group ID 50907:24
normanmAlex_Gaynor, did you create the homedir ?07:24
Alex_GaynorYes, /home/alex/ exists07:24
normanmAlex_Gaynor, right perms ?07:24
Alex_GaynorI'm not sure, I haven't altered anything07:25
normanmls -ltad /home/alex07:25
Alex_Gaynordrwxr-xr-x 2 alex alex 4096 Jun 22 23:06 /home/alex/07:25
normanmhmm looks ok07:26
normanmand ls -ltad /home07:26
Alex_Gaynordrwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 22 23:06 /home07:26
normanmok what is the exactly error you got ?07:26
Alex_GaynorWhen I enter my password I get: Permission denied, please try again.07:27
normanmhave you tried to login directly ( without ssh ) with the account ?07:28
Alex_GaynorHow would I do that?07:28
normanmgo to the console and login ?07:28
normanmor as root su - alex07:28
Alex_GaynorOk using login works07:28
Alex_GaynorI can login as alex07:29
Alex_GaynorJust not via ssh07:29
normanmcheck in ssh config if login via password is allowed07:29
Alex_GaynorThat would be in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?07:30
normanm/etc/ssh/sshd_config07:31
Alex_GaynorWhat setting am I looking for?07:31
normanmman sshd_config07:31
Alex_GaynorThat doesn't say which setting allows login via password07:33
Alex_GaynorThe PassWordAuthentication line is commented out07:34
Alex_GaynorI take it I should remove the comment?07:34
Alex_Gaynornormanm: ?07:35
normanmnope.. if it is commented it should work07:36
normanmare you sure you use the right username/pass on ssh ?07:36
Alex_GaynorYeah07:36
normanmAlex_Gaynor, hmm I cant believe this =P07:51
Alex_GaynorI feel like I must be doing something horrifically wrong FWIW, when I do: scp /home/some/file root_username@ip:/home/alex/ I get Unable to get term attr: Invalid argument; id: cannot find name for group ID 509; select: Bad file descriptor07:52
Alex_GaynorFor all I know this is because I have a shoddy host, I won the hosting, so I didn't really vet them08:05
Alex_Gaynornormanm: Oh my god, there is apparently one IP for root console, and a different one for regular ssh access08:15
Alex_GaynorThanks for your patience08:15
davmor2Query before I write a bug report please,  Why are all the driver options not installed for print server (eg splix & foo2zjs driver for samsung clp range of printers) also I know the next part is almost certainly for security but why can't you access the cups interface from the server  (ie http://address.of.server:631 reports no access check permissions etc) but there is no easy way to configure cups from ssh-ing int08:56
davmor2scrap the interface section discovered why I'd not seen the listen section09:02
captbaritoneWhat are symptoms of an overloaded power supply?09:29
lexi_smells09:29
lexi_:p09:29
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captbaritoneCould it possibly trigger a false drive failure?09:30
alexcfyep09:30
alexcfvery possibly09:31
alexcfprocessors may not bea ble to chug all the power they want09:31
captbaritoneI just installed three 750 gig sata drives in on old machine09:39
captbaritoneand already sent one back to newegg because it failed09:39
captbaritonenow anther one failed09:39
captbaritonebut only when being used in the raid09:39
krautmoin09:40
captbaritonemaybe because the PSU can't keep up?09:40
OsaxHi all09:40
captbaritonehey Osax09:40
OsaxI'm having a problem with ip_forward (routing) with Ubuntu 8.04 server09:40
OsaxI did echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward09:40
Osaxand I have two NICs09:41
Osaxthe maximum I can reach is the second NIC09:41
Osaxbut not any other ip in the network or internet09:41
Osaxis there any thing special I have to do to enable routing other than this?09:41
Osaxanyone? plz09:42
Osaxa simple graph is like: (client - 192.168.200.10) ----[switch/hub]---[Server (NIC2 - 192.168.200.1 *local) - (NIC1 - 192.168.10.200 *internet)---[internet switch]09:45
Deepsyour internet switch might only beconfigured to NAT for 192.168.10.0/2409:49
OsaxDeeps, but shouldn't I be able to at least ping any other client/pc that is in the same network? 192.168.10.0/24?09:52
Osaxlike.. (client - 192.168.200.10) ----[switch/hub]---[Server (NIC2 - 192.168.200.1 *local) - (NIC1 - 192.168.10.200 *internet)---(client - 192.168.10.8) for example09:52
Deepsyep09:53
Deepsif you have the appropriate routing table defined09:53
Deepsclient needs default route 192.168.200.109:53
Deepsserver needs route 192.168.200.0/whatevernetmaskyoursuing to go over 192.168.200.1 / nic209:54
Deepsserver needs route 192.168.10.0/24 to go over 192.168.10.200 / nic109:54
Deepsand client 192.168.10.8 needs to know 192.168.200.0/whatevernetmaskyoursuing routes over 192.168.200.109:54
Osaxaha09:54
Deepssorry, that first client that didnt have an ip is client 192.168.200.1009:55
Osaxthe server (ubuntu server linux router) has 192.168.200.1/24 and 192.168.10.200/2409:55
Osaxchecking others...09:55
OsaxDeeps, thanks alot! I was pinging the internet router from an internal IP ;-)10:19
Osaxworking fine... my mistake10:19
ctx144khello all10:28
ctx144kmy postgresql-database is crashed, i cant start i again. http://rafb.net/p/UuT6tU77.html10:29
ctx144khow should i rebuild my database with my backup?10:29
ctx144kdropdb only works with a running mashine10:30
ctx144ki want a complete rebuiling of the database (like a new installation)10:30
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uvirtbotNew bug: #242309 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "expire-log-days typo error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24230912:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #242313 in openldap2.3 (main) "TLS_CACERTDIR not supported in gnutls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24231313:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #241562 in gvfs (main) "Latest gvfs-update in hardy-proposed causes huge IO-lags (dup-of: 209520)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24156213:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #242325 in samba (main) "Samba with "ldap passwd sync = only" fails to change passwords" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24232513:46
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putnamso -- anyone wanna talk about pptpd?14:28
lukehasnonameI don't14:31
sorenputnam: That's an odd sort of question, isn't it?14:35
putnamhaha14:39
putnama bit14:39
putnami've had a frustrating bout with setting up VPN on my server14:39
putnami have a dedicated machine with just one interface that is connected directly to WAN14:40
putnami want to setup PPTP on this machine so i can have a virtual local network that all clients share -- i don't even care about routing internet to them right now14:40
putnami spent some time trying openswan, but it is very difficult to get it working cross-platform for OS X and Windows out-of-box14:41
putnamPPTP seems to have a much better chance of working OOB on all platforms14:41
putnami installed pptpd and i'm currently stuck -- my clients hang trying to authenticate14:42
putnampppd reports a timeout trying to send conf-requests14:42
putnamthe same error occurs on the other side, at least on os x which also uses ppd14:42
sorenDid you look into openvpn at all?14:43
putnamyeah, requires installing a client on all os's14:43
sorenI find that much more accessible on most platforms.14:43
putnamso it kind of kills the out-of-box issue14:43
sorenAh, right.14:43
putnami need it to be completely friction free, as it is somethign that will strictly be used as a sort of pick-up-and-go thing14:43
sorenDon't know. I haven't used poptop for a looong time.14:43
putnamat first poptop seemed so easy14:44
putnambut when i get to ppp it's a scary mess :(14:44
sorenI suggest you look at a more poptop specific help forum of some sort. I don't know if they have an irc channel or anything.14:47
putnamapparently they do, but it's empty :(14:52
putnam#pptp14:52
uvirtbotNew bug: #242312 in gnome-panel (main) "HARDY: Gnome panel takes more than 10 min to load or do not load at all (dup-of: 209520)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24231214:56
putnam_aha14:59
putnam_so apparently GRE packets were filtered on my corp network14:59
putnam_i am on an EVDO card now and PPTP works14:59
lukehasnonameI've got a proposal at the server meeting tomorrow, low priority, but I hope it will be taken under consideration.15:22
marc-andrehi15:45
marc-andrehow can i block certain deb's from being upgraded via apt-get upgrade?15:45
normanmmarc-andre, use aptitude and set the debs on hold "="15:48
marc-andrenormanm: ok, i try that, thanks15:48
GeekSquadSFdoes the latest server distro have a mail service built-in or is there a better third party mail server?15:52
lukehasnonameGeekSquadSF: The included MTA is Postfix15:53
trakianshello folks15:54
trakiansIm having biiiiig troubles with pg on 7.1015:54
gladktrakians: hi15:54
trakiansuser postgres simply does not login15:55
trakiansgladk: psql -h localhost -p 5432 -d postgres -U postgres ***** Password for user postgres: ******* psql: FATAL:  password authentication failed for user "postgres"15:56
trakiansthe password was correctly set for both user account and bd account15:56
gladktrakians: ?15:56
trakianswhen i try to connect into my postgres db with the default postgres user, it  does not connect15:57
lamontGeekSquadSF: although postfix isn't necessarily installed by default, depending15:58
lukehasnonameguess he didn't like our answers16:00
trakianslunch time.16:01
trakiansbrb16:01
lukehasnonameMy GOD there has been a lot of discussion about w3m16:32
zulmathiaz: ping16:32
mathiazzul: shtoiinngg16:32
zulmathiaz: so updates are frozen for 8.04.1 but I have still have a bunch of fixes pending for hardy so I created a bzr repo to keep track of them https://code.edge.launchpad.net/serversrt16:33
zulI am going to be using this inconjunction with the wiki pages16:35
GeekSquadSFdoes anyone know of any problems with running ubuntu server on VMware16:42
lukehasnonameno16:43
lukehasnonamenot that I know if16:43
lukehasnonameof16:43
lukehasnonameI know JeOS is designed with VMWare in mind16:44
mathiazzul: why are you using a bzr tree ? isn't the wiki page enough ?16:44
zulmathiaz: basically so I can keep better track of it and if I get frustrated with something I can just revert the diff16:45
mathiazzul: well there is also a revert function in the wiki page16:46
GeekSquadSFfaster to find exactly what I'm looking for... (lots of stuff on linux servers...)16:46
mathiazzul: I'm just not sure if it's worth to have yet another place to look at for SRU16:47
zulmathiaz:  its just the debdiffs anyways16:47
GeekSquadSFand second.... I don't know jack when it comes to servers.... just looking for a few quick answers...16:47
lukehasnonameI'm no VM expert16:48
mathiazzul: right - so you plan to use the bzr tree to keep track of the debdiff ?16:49
zulmathiaz: yes16:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #242383 in postfix (main) "default postfix config creates backscatter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24238316:53
* ScottK coughs BS and reads the bug.16:54
uvirtbotNew bug: #242380 in samba (main) "samba package broken on 8.04.1 daily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24238016:54
tharis20How can I install Ubuntu-Server in a Pen-Drive?16:56
lamontScottK: interesting16:57
ScottKYeah.16:58
ScottKIIRC this exact issue was discussed on postfix-users fairly recently.16:58
GeekSquadSFyou guys have a link that I can get noob info on ubuntu server?16:58
ScottKIt's that way for backwards compatibility.16:59
ScottKlamont: No reason it needs to be that way for new installs I don't think.16:59
mathiazGeekSquadSF: http://tinyurl.com/65jzxw16:59
GeekSquadSFthanks much16:59
ScottKlamont: If it becomes widely known that postfix will do that, then spammers will use it.  I think it ought to be changed.16:59
lamontyeah16:59
ScottKMedium or High?17:00
lamontthat'd be a bug that was introduced when parent_matches was adeeed17:00
lamontadded even17:00
ScottKSounds reasonable.17:00
ScottKI'd have guessed that should default to off though.17:00
lamontyeah17:00
lamontI rather expect I'll just change the default in the source. :-)17:01
lamontbut first I'll pester Wietse about ti17:01
ScottKThe default is pretty extensive.17:01
ScottKparent_domain_matches_subdomains = debug_peer_list,fast_flush_domains,mynetworks,permit_mx_backup_networks,qmqpd_authorized_clients,relay_domains,smtpd_access_maps17:01
* ScottK goes for high.17:02
ScottKlamont: I pointed that bug at you ...17:02
ScottKJust so you won't forget.17:03
lamontheh. thanks17:03
ScottKlamont: You don't suppose Debian Bug #293501 might be the same issue, just extraordinarily poorly expressed?17:06
uvirtbotDebian bug 293501 in postfix "postfix: Postfix 2.1.4-4 in unstable is an open relay unless relay_domains is explicitly set" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/29350117:06
lamontScottK: that would depend on whether or not the parent_matches thing is in 2.117:08
ScottKYeah.  Dunno.  Was hoping you would.17:09
lamontI'll look17:09
lamontsrc/global/mail_params.h:#define VAR_PAR_DOM_MATCH              "parent_domain_matches_subdomains"17:10
lamontcould be17:10
lamontsigh.17:17
lamontScottK: the parameter, and default, were introduced in ....17:18
lamont1.1.017:18
ScottKSo that'd be a yes.17:18
lamontwell, that'd be a "this bug would agree with the submitter, or it could be something completely different, includeing PEBCAK"17:19
lamontthe debian bug is still a needinfo, albeit maybe not 'unreproducible' any longer17:19
lamontactually, no.17:19
lamontit's not an open relay per the LP bug, it's a backscatter source.17:20
ScottKThe debian bug does say open relay, not backscatter17:20
ScottK;-)17:20
lamontgood. we agree then. :-)(17:20
ScottKYou could take credit for fixing it and then see if there is a complaint.17:20
lamontor I could just close it as 'no traffic in forever" and see if there's a complaint. :-)17:32
ScottKThat'd work too.17:33
* ScottK closed one over the weekend along the lines of, "Yes, if you install the lib from volatile, the Etch package will not work, but that's not actually a bug in the package in Etch."17:34
trakinashello! could anyone help me with a stupid postgres trouble?17:37
trakinasIm running 7.1017:38
mathiazzul: wasn't the last apache2 merge a sync ?17:40
mathiazzul: it seems that the only change that is left is the DebianMaintainerField update17:41
zulmathiaz: yeah that was my mistake17:42
ScottKmathiaz: He was suffering from ENOCOFFEE when he did it.17:42
mathiazzul: right - could you request a sync from debian then ? 2.2.9-2 has been uploaded to debian17:43
zulmathiaz: sure17:44
zulmathiaz: done17:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #242414 in apache2 (main) "Please sync apache-2.2.9-2 from debian unstable." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24241417:56
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trakinasanyone?18:00
shelbyscatescould someone help me set up my wol?18:49
shelbyscatesi cant get it to work :(18:49
shelbyscatesi tried the tutorial and it just dont do nuthin :\18:49
lukehasnonameping19:10
bicz13 ms19:12
lukehasnonamehttp://bsdtips.utcorp.net/mediawiki/index.php/Helio/usr19:32
lukehasnonameGet rid of the /usr/ directory19:32
jdstrandzul: can you take a look at bug #24144819:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 241448 in totem "Playing from Samba SMB shared folder now is not possible (it could be done until last upgrade)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24144819:48
zuljdstrand: sure19:48
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zuljdstrand: it might be fixed with the lanman changes that happened this weekend19:49
jdstrandzul: are these samba fixes?19:50
zuljdstrand: yep19:50
jdstrandor gvfs?19:50
zulsamba fixes i definetly know about gvfs Im not quite sure about19:50
jdstrandzul: oh! lanman changes in smbclient or libsmbclient?19:50
zullibsmbclient19:51
jdstrandzul: aha, ok-- do you have a bug number and are they in your ppa?19:51
zulhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/samba/3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.319:51
zulits in proposed19:51
jdstrandzul I will add a note to the bug, and reference you saying that it *may* be fixed in -proposed19:52
zuljdstrand: coolio19:52
jdstrandzul: can you review my comments in bug #241448 and add any of your own if needed20:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 241448 in totem "Playing from Samba SMB shared folder now is not possible (it could be done until last upgrade)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24144820:01
jdstrand?20:01
zulsure20:02
jdstrandzul: though it's odd I can't reproduce it20:03
jdstrand(I'm using 4.2)20:03
zulnot enough info in the bug he doesnt tell us what kind of SMB machine he is conneccting from20:06
jdstrandzul: no-- not enough info-- but I asked for more20:06
jdstrandzul: so we'll wait :)20:06
zulsame20:06
zul*sigh*20:07
zul:)20:07
jdstrandkees, zul: fyi, added new 'tmpserve' arg to test-samba.py from qa-regressin-testing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22406/20:10
jdstrandkees, zul: this allows for one command to setup a server to start testing various client connections (eg, the samba bug I was just looking at)20:10
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zuljdstrand: ah sweet20:11
jdstrandkees, zul: basically, run 'sudo ./test-samba.py tmpserve -v', then mount the share on your client, do stuff, umount, exit20:11
keesjdstrand: sweet20:31
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lukehasnonameWhere is the root FTP folder by default in Ubuntu?21:26
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jetolehey guys, I have a bit of a weird DNS situation, when I look up a name with "host" command on one server, it will return the data but then it times out trying to query that host, not sure why it is trying to query that host21:30
jetoleone moment, lemme give an example21:31
jetolehttp://pastebin.org/4564821:33
jetoleIt is not the DNS server btw, this happened as well on out of office DNS server on both AT&T and OpenDNS21:34
jetoleI may be wrong, my desktop system does the same thing, but I am not sure why21:36
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lukehasnonamejetole: no idea, sorry21:56
lukehasnonameI know it sucks being ignored.21:56
ScottKjetole: I guess I'd use tcpdump or wireshark to see what's happening from your box to the router and make sure the problem is upstream of you.21:59
lukehasnoname"gobolinux sounds like a pokemon"22:04
lukehasnoname-quote'd22:04
Colin__I have three ethernet connections, 1 is for the LAN, the other two are for separate dsl lines... Everything was working fine with 1 internet connection, but I just plugged in the second and it isn't getting an IP address23:25
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owhSo, I got a new kernel update yesterday, 2.6.22-15, so now vmware doesn't work any more and no kernel modules for it yet. How do I get off this bandwagon? My hardware doesn't have a VT CPU, so I cannot use kvm. Any suggestions?23:31
sommerowh: hardware upgrade ?23:33
owhIf you send the cash, I'll happily go shopping sommer :)23:33
sommerheh, just a suggestion :)23:33
owhUnfortunately, there are many places where VT cpu's don't exist, but a need for virtualisation does :(23:34
owhSo, seriously, what options do I have?23:35
owhThis keeps happening and it's stopped me from upgrading to Hardy in several places.23:35
sommerowh: maybe another virtualization package xen, qemu+kqemu, virtaulbox, etc... I've only tried qemu and kvm myself23:35
owhThere appear to be lots of options in that field. It's why I stayed with vmware for so long. I cannot even begin to make an assessment how they compare. I'd love to use the Ubuntu "default/preferred", but AFAIK that's only kvm - or am I mistaken?23:38
* owh starts looking for a wiki page that compares them against each other.23:39
sommerowh: yep kvm is preferred, but I see it as the same argument as postfix v. exim4, it's really a matter of preference and environment23:39
owhWell, unless you know something that I don't, I cannot run kvm until I have a VT enabled CPU, is that correct?23:40
sommerowh: yeppers, that's correct23:40
sommerwierd someone asked that earlier today :)23:40
* owh cannot imagine swapping out the CPU on a ThinkPad.23:41
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hadsYou can get VMWare going on Hardy if you need.23:41
sommerheh, probably just some screws and a fan23:41
sommerwhat's the worste that could happen?23:41
owhsommer: I end up spending $2000 on a new laptop for a $100 cpu upgrade?23:42
sommerowh: ooooohhhh, ya there's that23:42
owhhads: Yeah, but that just means making the kernel modules myself, next thing I'll be running gentoo, no thanks.23:42
hadshah, it's not that big of a deal23:43
owhhads: No, but it's all about maintenance, not about one specific laptop today. What I run here also runs on servers around the planet, it matters.23:44
hadsOK23:45
owhhads: If there was an automagic method to do this, that was supported, that compiled into packages that were installed, then we might have something that's workable, but my experience with vmware tells me otherwise.23:46
hadsOK23:46
owhHmm, I'm just looking through my apt-cache and noticing that not only does vmware not have a current kernel module, neither does virtualbox, haven't checked the rest yet, but that's just plain wrong. How can you release a new kernel module without the rest?23:56

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