| fistelsork | hi | 01:56 |
|---|---|---|
| LetsGo67 | How do I make Opera forget my email password? | 01:58 |
| TheSheep | LetsGo67: xubuntu doesn't ship with opera, try their support maybe | 01:59 |
| fistelsork | what do I do if I deleted the only user which can "administer the system"? >.< | 01:59 |
| LetsGo67 | TheSheep, you mean, ask Opera for support? | 01:59 |
| TheSheep | LetsGo67: no idea how they have it organized | 01:59 |
| TheSheep | fistelsork: you can run in the recovery mode and add an user | 02:00 |
| LetsGo67 | Was it a bad idea for me to remove Firefox and install Opera? | 02:00 |
| fistelsork | TheSheep: from the installation cd? | 02:00 |
| TheSheep | LetsGo67: no, you are free to use the software that suits you better, it's just I have no idea about how opera works or where it keeps passwords and such | 02:00 |
| TheSheep | fistelsork: no, when you boot, press esc, you will have a menu | 02:01 |
| LetsGo67 | It is a proprietary, but I am still scared of getting it stolen. | 02:01 |
| TheSheep | LetsGo67: I think it's free for private use | 02:01 |
| fistelsork | TheSheep: aha! thanks!! | 02:01 |
| LetsGo67 | Even more for Thunderbird. | 02:01 |
| LetsGo67 | I want my passwords to be safe. | 02:01 |
| LetsGo67 | I'd rather type my password instead of storing it on the PC. | 02:02 |
| TheSheep | LetsGo67: maybe someone else will know... I wonder if there is a channel for opera... | 02:03 |
| LetsGo67 | Yes, but no answers. | 02:03 |
| TheSheep | LetsGo67: there is! try joining #opera | 02:03 |
| TheSheep | maybe in the morning there will be more people | 02:03 |
| LetsGo67 | You went and left. You don't use Opera? | 02:03 |
| cody-somerville | Xubuntu rocks! woot! :) | 03:10 |
| wolfwalker | This is a things-to-do guide after installing Ubuntu 8.04. Getting flash, java, some codecs, etc., medibuntu repositories, blah, blah, blah. Here's the page: http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2008/04/things-to-do-on-your-new-ubuntu-804.html | 04:26 |
| wolfwalker | Question: Will all this work for Xubuntu as well? | 04:26 |
| cody-somerville | wolfwalker, I'll take a look | 04:27 |
| cody-somerville | wolfwalker, just install xubuntu-restricted-extras | 04:28 |
| wolfwalker | That includes flash and java? | 04:30 |
| wolfwalker | apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras? | 04:30 |
| cody-somerville | yup | 04:32 |
| wolfwalker | Thanks | 04:32 |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| xTOGx | how do i get my sound to work? | 06:30 |
| xTOGx | how do i get my sound to work? is there a driver or something | 06:33 |
| redwyrm | Hi. I am trying to scan a document using my printer/scanner combo, but I get a "no devices found" message | 06:39 |
| redwyrm | My printer/scanner is a Canon MP210 and I'm using the Flegita plugin for the Gimp to do the scanning. | 06:40 |
| redwyrm | how would I make the software recognize my printer? | 06:40 |
| redwyrm | (I'm using xubunt 8.04 "hardy" btw) | 06:40 |
| redwyrm | xubuntu* | 06:41 |
| nubuntu | god, i don't know whats happening to my computer. now i have no more panels as of today when i turnd it on... i figured out how to go in thru the filesystem to usr/bin to find programs, but what a pain. all this started when i tried to upgrade my video card driver for an installation of google earth. anyone else having such a prob? | 07:40 |
| nubuntu | my screen resolution is all goofy too, i don't really know what it is rendering at, but it ain't very high i can say. | 07:41 |
| cody-somerville | nubuntu, hi | 08:07 |
| owen_ | Need some advice before proceeding with a live usb xubuntu install. Is there the java jdk kit in the repositories? | 09:03 |
| AlexCONRAD | hi, my xubuntu just crashed (blinking leds on keyboard). How is it possible to know what happened after a reboot? | 09:17 |
| glitsj16 | AlexCONRAD: hi, you can always check /var/log/syslog and look for clues | 09:18 |
| glitsj16 | and ~/.xsession-errors as well | 09:18 |
| AlexCONRAD | glitsj16: i'll have a look at those, thanks | 09:19 |
| glitsj16 | AlexCONRAD: hope it's easily fixed, your welcome | 09:19 |
| _-Jay-_ | Evening all, I'm having some trouble with xfce and external monitors and system faults, being too big for the res, anyone fancy a helping hand? | 11:06 |
| _-Jay-_ | never mind, got it, stupid DPI configuration | 11:26 |
| temoto-work | What is xfce analog of konsole? | 11:57 |
| temoto-work | virtual terminal | 11:58 |
| Myrtti | xfce4-terminal | 12:00 |
| frangor | hi | 12:23 |
| floating | i started using the experiment version of vlc player. now when i try to update xubu-system with autoupdate.. it cant update some vlc files.. now there is always an icon on topright corner telling me about updates... | 13:41 |
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| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| temoto-work | How to turn on Marvell wire ethernet card? | 14:49 |
| temoto-work | lspci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group ltd. Unknown device 4355 (rev 12) | 14:50 |
| === maxamillion is now known as notMax | ||
| vehystrix | is there anyone that can tell me how I change the default file manager pcman? | 15:54 |
| === adam is now known as maxamillion | ||
| vehystrix | is there anyone that can tell me how I change the default file manager pcman? | 16:45 |
| jokoon | hello Odd-rationale | 17:08 |
| jokoon | I just reinstalled ubuntu-desktop | 17:08 |
| jokoon | make xfce freeze after I login | 17:08 |
| jokoon | just a blue background with the mouse cursor | 17:08 |
| lobazo | hello i have a problem with my panel in xubuntu http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1777/screenshotxc4.png | 17:10 |
| lobazo | how can i fix it? | 17:10 |
| Myrtti | lobazo: so what is your problem exactly? | 17:12 |
| Myrtti | lobazo: that you've lost a spacer from the upper panel? | 17:12 |
| lobazo | the problem it's that i've lost my firefox icon and network icon | 17:14 |
| Myrtti | then right click the panel and add them back? | 17:15 |
| Myrtti | network icon you must mean nm-applet | 17:15 |
| Myrtti | *shrug* | 17:15 |
| Odd-rationale | jokoon: hey. what is the problem? | 17:16 |
| jokoon | I have a powerpc | 17:17 |
| jokoon | laptop | 17:17 |
| jokoon | ubuntu was installed, I installed xubuntu-desktop with synaptic | 17:17 |
| jokoon | but when I was loging in | 17:18 |
| jokoon | nothing happened | 17:18 |
| jokoon | I removed packages with a command line I think you gave me | 17:18 |
| jokoon | it works xfce worked | 17:18 |
| jokoon | because of a possible corrupt packet | 17:19 |
| jokoon | then I install ubuntu-desktop and it doesn't work anymore | 17:19 |
| jokoon | I don't get why xfce is fighting with gnome | 17:20 |
| jokoon | xfce works without gnome so whats the probleme | 17:20 |
| jokoon | Odd-rationale I explained you can read now :) | 17:21 |
| cody-somerville | xfce4 doesn't affect gnome | 17:22 |
| cody-somerville | Did you change the session at gdm? | 17:22 |
| jokoon | no | 17:22 |
| cody-somerville | Then you're probably still logging into xfce4? | 17:22 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: maybe that's our favorite bug? | 17:22 |
| jokoon | I think it was xfce by default | 17:22 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, When you said nothing happpened when you tried to login, please describe further | 17:23 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, could you still move your mouse around? | 17:23 |
| jokoon | yes | 17:23 |
| jokoon | there was a sky blue backgroun | 17:23 |
| jokoon | d | 17:23 |
| jokoon | i could still move my mouse | 17:25 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville | 17:25 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, So what is happening now? | 17:25 |
| jokoon | (sorry forgot to put your name in) | 17:25 |
| jokoon | now I'm on gnome | 17:25 |
| jokoon | I miss xfce | 17:26 |
| cody-somerville | So no more trouble? | 17:26 |
| cody-somerville | Oh, you want Xfce4 back? | 17:26 |
| jokoon | yes trouble, I have a slow laptop | 17:26 |
| jokoon | I would prefer xfce | 17:26 |
| jokoon | nobody knows about what corrupt packet I should remove ? | 17:26 |
| Odd-rationale | jokoon: ok i'm back. sorry... :P | 17:34 |
| Odd-rationale | jokoon: do you have a terminal open? | 17:34 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville yes I want xfce back | 17:34 |
| wozz | Hi -- i'm trying to install xubuntu on some previously hp openview boxes | 17:34 |
| jokoon | yes, will you ask me to remove gnome again ? | 17:34 |
| wozz | and all i get is to the busybox shell and no further | 17:34 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, what do you mean "corrupt" package? | 17:34 |
| wozz | any ideas? | 17:34 |
| jokoon | thats what Odd-rationale suggested | 17:35 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville | 17:35 |
| Odd-rationale | jokoon: no. let's remove some config files. try as your normal user "rm ~/.cache ~/.config" | 17:35 |
| cody-somerville | First off, whats the issue? :S | 17:35 |
| Odd-rationale | jokoon: then logout. and try logging in to xfce normally. | 17:35 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville the issue is : when I log in on a xfce session, all I have is a sky blue background with only the mouse | 17:36 |
| jokoon | NOT THE LOGO | 17:37 |
| Myrtti | Odd-rationale: are you serious about REMOVING .config? | 17:37 |
| Odd-rationale | Myrtti: yes. | 17:37 |
| jokoon | the device cursor can move | 17:37 |
| Myrtti | Odd-rationale: wouldn't you rather rename it? | 17:37 |
| Odd-rationale | Myrtti: why? you think i should move it instead? | 17:37 |
| Odd-rationale | Myrtti: well, there is seldom anything there worth keeping... | 17:38 |
| wozz | Perhaps you're running into this issue jokoon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221657 | 17:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 221657 in ubuntu "xfce4 does not load on normal ubuntu-desktop (dup-of: 232364)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:38 |
| wozz | sound familiar? | 17:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 232364 in xfce4-utils "dbus-launch hangs at session start waiting on socket output in libxcb" [Critical,In progress] | 17:38 |
| jokoon | wozz yes same problem | 17:40 |
| jokoon | I have a power pc machine | 17:40 |
| wozz | sounds like its a bug | 17:41 |
| wozz | sounds like reinstalling may help | 17:41 |
| wozz | or it may not | 17:41 |
| wozz | i believe the term is "SOL" | 17:41 |
| jokoon | meaning ? | 17:42 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, I can fix your problem. | 17:42 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville really ? | 17:42 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, Are you comfortable enough to replace a system file in the shell? | 17:43 |
| jokoon | yes | 17:43 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, Do you need me to provide you with the file or are you comfortable just making the edit I tell you to? | 17:43 |
| jokoon | yes | 17:43 |
| jokoon | but be precise | 17:43 |
| jokoon | please | 17:44 |
| jokoon | or maybe in a pastebin | 17:44 |
| cody-somerville | Ok | 17:45 |
| cody-somerville | Are you able to edit the file right now while still talking to me? | 17:45 |
| jokoon | yes | 17:46 |
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| jokoon | I can do that cody-somerville | 17:47 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, okay, open /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc as root | 17:47 |
| jokoon | done | 17:48 |
| lobazo | well now i have almost all my icons but i don't have the help icon and when i run my help appeared archive not found like this http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3360/screenshot1yd7.png | 17:48 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville its done | 17:51 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: j0 | 17:51 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, Find dbus-launch in the file | 17:51 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, hi | 17:51 |
| jokoon | cody-somerville | 17:52 |
| jokoon | done | 17:52 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, do you see that block there? | 17:52 |
| jokoon | the '#' ? | 17:52 |
| jokoon | I remove it ? | 17:53 |
| cody-somerville | no no | 17:53 |
| cody-somerville | By block, I mean group of lines without spaces. | 17:53 |
| jokoon | from if to fi | 17:53 |
| cody-somerville | jokoon, this here, yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22368/ | 17:53 |
| jokoon | yes | 17:54 |
| jokoon | I see it | 17:54 |
| cody-somerville | Ok, I want you to cut that block and paste it before this block of text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22369/ | 17:55 |
| cody-somerville | When you're done, that part of the file should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22372/ | 17:57 |
| cody-somerville | (or very very very similar) :) | 17:58 |
| cody-somerville | Please pastebin your file before saving it | 17:58 |
| jokoon | http://paste.ubuntu.com/22374/ | 18:04 |
| cody-somerville | Ok | 18:05 |
| cody-somerville | Looks good | 18:05 |
| cody-somerville | Save and try relogging into Xubuntu again. | 18:05 |
| * cody-somerville has to go afk now. | 18:05 | |
| jokoon | cody-somerville THANKS A LOOT | 18:14 |
| * jokoon kisses cody-somerville | 18:14 | |
| cody-somerville | It worked? :) | 18:15 |
| jokoon | yep | 18:15 |
| lc2 | iiiiinTTERRRNET | 18:16 |
| Woo | Can Xubuntu be installed on a 1,3GB hard drive? | 18:20 |
| === Woo is now known as Woo_ | ||
| cody-somerville | Woo_, probably not | 18:21 |
| Odd-rationale | Woo_: barely. | 18:21 |
| Odd-rationale | maybe if you don't included swap space... | 18:21 |
| Woo_ | I will set it up to just do one thing, Folding@Home | 18:21 |
| Woo_ | I don't need OpenOffice or any other stuff | 18:21 |
| Odd-rationale | Woo_: then ust install a cli | 18:22 |
| Odd-rationale | just | 18:22 |
| Woo_ | a what? | 18:22 |
| Odd-rationale | command line interface | 18:22 |
| Woo_ | I'm not smart enough for that | 18:22 |
| Odd-rationale | you don't need a gui for for folding@home | 18:22 |
| cody-somerville | Woo_, try damn small linux | 18:22 |
| Woo_ | I know, but I need a brain to know what to type in the command line | 18:22 |
| Odd-rationale | Woo_: folding@home is done from the command line, correct? | 18:23 |
| Woo_ | yeah | 18:23 |
| Odd-rationale | well, you know how to install it from the command line. no? (apt-get install stuff) | 18:24 |
| Woo_ | yes. | 18:24 |
| Woo_ | but i don't know how to manage setting up samba, editing the conf file from a command line | 18:24 |
| Odd-rationale | Woo_: well, you could learn... have you used nano? | 18:25 |
| Woo_ | Nano what? | 18:25 |
| Woo_ | Linux should have a (Windows) home server thing, they've solved it brilliant. You add a GPU when you config it, then you can remove it once you're done. Sounds very user friendly. | 18:25 |
| Odd-rationale | Woo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems | 18:26 |
| Woo_ | I think I'll go try damn small linux | 18:27 |
| Woo_ | hmm, i guess i need a new switch | 18:33 |
| Woo_ | will go for a walk down to where people throw away computers, wish me luck :) | 18:34 |
| wozz | i've got a cisco 1900 here if you wanna pay for shipping :) | 18:34 |
| Woo_ | i had a big cisco thing as well once, 40W! | 18:34 |
| Woo_ | i didn't really know what to do with it, it had these DVI-like things as well as two normal network plugs | 18:35 |
| wozz | we also have a 2900xl around here somewhere | 18:35 |
| Woo_ | or hmm | 18:35 |
| Woo_ | does xubuntu have good wireless support? | 18:35 |
| Woo_ | have an old USB thing here | 18:36 |
| jokoon | magically, bluetooth now works | 18:37 |
| jokoon | yaaaaaay | 18:37 |
| wozz | xubuntu has the same wireless support as ubuntu | 18:38 |
| jokoon | now I have ubuntu-desktop installed | 18:38 |
| Woo_ | do you think it is in any way possible to set it to go offline when it is not used? | 18:38 |
| Woo_ | it is an old standard, we have an n router but it runs at g since no n cards around | 18:38 |
| Woo_ | if it's constantly online i think the router will give the rest of us bad speed due to the bad standard | 18:39 |
| wozz | you might look into the power safe features | 18:39 |
| wozz | as to how or whether you can do this im not sure | 18:40 |
| wozz | power save | 18:40 |
| === effie is now known as effie_jayx | ||
| diskreet | hi | 20:08 |
| Myrtti | hullo | 20:08 |
| diskreet | er ... should the user:pass for a 8.04 livecd be ubuntu:[blank] ? | 20:08 |
| diskreet | i couldnt seem to find info on this anywhere on the official site | 20:08 |
| diskreet | nor on the cd image or any affiliated txt files | 20:09 |
| diskreet | i've got no terminals on tty1...6, just a bunch of "User not known to the underlying authentication module" messages | 20:11 |
| diskreet | same of which came up on normal install, which didn't continue anywhere for a good 10 minutes so i think it just froze | 20:12 |
| TheSheep | diskreet: it shuldn't ask you for password | 20:33 |
| TheSheep | diskreet: verify the cd for defects | 20:33 |
| Woo_ | wow, i found a computer that had an 800MHz CPU | 20:33 |
| Woo_ | but a staggering 1GB ram | 20:33 |
| Woo_ | strange, eh? | 20:33 |
| TheSheep | not really | 20:33 |
| Woo_ | who would need that the day it was bought? | 20:33 |
| TheSheep | a java developer maybe? ;) | 20:34 |
| Woo_ | :P | 20:34 |
| Woo_ | i also got two hard drives, 20 and 60 :) | 20:35 |
| Woo_ | My client crashed, did I miss any messages? | 20:36 |
| lc2 | nope | 20:37 |
| diskreet | TheSheep: ok, nice to know. it gave a graphical login screen so something must be wrong, probably with the cdrw then | 20:41 |
| TheSheep | diskreet: there is an option in the boot menu for vrifying the cd | 20:42 |
| Woo_ | brilliant, i could replace the 1GB on a machine with 256 | 20:42 |
| diskreet | ya, it found an error in 1 file altogether. | 20:45 |
| Cygnu1 | Hey, quick question | 20:46 |
| Cygnu1 | What kind of installation package does Xubuntu use? | 20:46 |
| * Cygnu1 just installed Xubuntu on a five year old Dell machine. | 20:46 | |
| lc2 | Cygnu1: deb | 20:46 |
| Cygnu1 | Perhaps I should elaborate a little. I've never used *nix, and have next to no idea what I'm doing. I know my way around a system, just not Linux. | 20:47 |
| Cygnu1 | Specifically, I'm trying to install Flash to get better browser functionality. | 20:48 |
| lc2 | then you should have asked that | 20:50 |
| lc2 | you don't need to go and download flash | 20:50 |
| lc2 | firefox's plugin finder will do that fine | 20:50 |
| Cygnu1 | Plugin finder is where? | 20:51 |
| Cygnu1 | I'm not an idiot, I'm just lost. | 20:51 |
| Myrtti | just surf to say, orisinal.com | 20:52 |
| lc2 | go to a page with flash on it. | 20:52 |
| Cygnu1 | Right. | 20:52 |
| lc2 | it'll say "additional plugins are needed" blah blah blah | 20:52 |
| Myrtti | then firefox should scream and yell "YO YO I zee Flash zomg download?" | 20:52 |
| Myrtti | :-P | 20:52 |
| lc2 | "install missing plugins" | 20:52 |
| Cygnu1 | My DSL is just bogged down because Xubuntu is updating in the background. | 20:53 |
| Myrtti | sorry, been drinking too much coffee | 20:53 |
| Cygnu1 | Haha | 20:53 |
| Cygnu1 | >.> "You guys, because the Flash, it is coming, install our shit!" | 20:53 |
| diskreet | ...and if for some reason the plugin finder fails, you can get an installer script from the adobe site. just google adobe flash linux, get the .tar.gz, gunzip & untar and run it (./sh flashplayer-installer or whatever) from the terminal | 20:55 |
| diskreet | argh, second cdrw that doesn't work :D | 20:55 |
| Cygnu1 | Yeah, I got the .tar.gz and untarred it, because the Firefox plugin finder didn't pop up | 20:55 |
| Cygnu1 | For some reason. Maybe I just missed it | 20:56 |
| Cygnu1 | Also, is there some way to get the clock out of 24-hour format? | 20:56 |
| Cygnu1 | I checked System>Time and Date... maybe I'm just missing something? | 20:57 |
| lc2 | right click on the clock. | 20:57 |
| lc2 | properties. | 20:57 |
| lc2 | uncheck "use 24 hour clock". | 20:57 |
| lc2 | profit! | 20:57 |
| Cygnu1 | dur de dur... | 20:57 |
| steven_ | lol @ profit!! | 21:00 |
| Cygnu1 | shit was so cash... | 21:01 |
| Cygnu1 | Oh, I have to wait for the Synaptics to finish the System update... | 21:01 |
| lc2 | yes | 21:02 |
| lc2 | 21:01 < Cygnu1> shit was so cash... | 21:02 |
| lc2 | /b/tards? in my #xubuntu? | 21:02 |
| steven_ | moar likely than u think! | 21:02 |
| Cygnu1 | Well, /u/ers are usually slightly kinder than /b/tards. | 21:03 |
| Cygnu1 | Anon is legion, though. | 21:03 |
| steven_ | rule 34? | 21:04 |
| cody-somerville | hmm? | 21:04 |
| steven_ | nvm lol | 21:04 |
| Cygnu1 | on what? | 21:04 |
| Cygnu1 | IRC clients? | 21:04 |
| steven_ | this is for another room | 21:04 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 21:04 |
| steven_ | right cody? | 21:05 |
| cody-somerville | Sounds about right. | 21:05 |
| steven_ | lol | 21:05 |
| steven_ | quick question | 21:05 |
| Cygnu1 | How can I go about minimizing the resource requirements of Xubuntu. I know it's already pretty light weight, but I'm running it on a P4 @1.8 and 256 or RAM. | 21:05 |
| Cygnu1 | There should be a question mark somewhere in there. | 21:05 |
| steven_ | i was trying to install xscreensaver along with gnome-screensaver | 21:05 |
| lc2 | Cygnu1: not a lot, really | 21:06 |
| steven_ | bot when i install gnome-sc, when i login, it freezes | 21:06 |
| lc2 | it's as lightweight as it's going to get | 21:06 |
| steven_ | it will allow me to login | 21:06 |
| steven_ | but nothing after that | 21:06 |
| steven_ | it seems like it kills x after login | 21:06 |
| steven_ | but not really | 21:06 |
| steven_ | it stays blue | 21:06 |
| steven_ | any takers? | 21:06 |
| lc2 | no idea | 21:06 |
| Cygnu1 | Alright. I am running a few windows open right now. I'll check again when idle. It's using ~170 MB when updating, and with Pidgin and Firefox open so I guess idle should be pretty good. | 21:07 |
| steven_ | cygnu how you liking xubuntu? | 21:07 |
| steven_ | oh cody | 21:07 |
| steven_ | last week i was asking about tablets | 21:07 |
| steven_ | i finally made a bootable USb stick with the xubuntu image on it | 21:08 |
| steven_ | it's persistant as well | 21:08 |
| steven_ | so i can swap hard disks | 21:08 |
| Cygnu1 | From the 10 minutes I've used it, and given the crap computer I'm running it on... I like it. | 21:08 |
| steven_ | cuz my tablet doesn't have a cd drive | 21:08 |
| lc2 | Cygnu1: idle it's pretty good | 21:08 |
| steven_ | yeah | 21:08 |
| Cygnu1 | I could easily see throwing it onto a UMPC. | 21:08 |
| lc2 | it's pretty good when idle* | 21:08 |
| steven_ | what kinda comp u got? | 21:08 |
| lc2 | Cygnu1: the thing is, about the only thing that takes up any memory is the gtk toolkit, and everything else uses it | 21:09 |
| Cygnu1 | My guess is that updating is chewing up resources pretty good. | 21:09 |
| steven_ | yeah | 21:09 |
| steven_ | are you apt-get updating? | 21:09 |
| steven_ | or dist-upgrade? | 21:09 |
| lc2 | if you have *one* GTK program running all the time, then you're basically using no memory for all of xfce | 21:09 |
| lc2 | but wat do i no lols | 21:09 |
| steven_ | LOL | 21:09 |
| steven_ | please elaborate lc2 | 21:10 |
| Cygnu1 | It just tossed me a window up in the corner that said "New updates, click here." So I did. I'm new to the whole *nix thing. | 21:10 |
| steven_ | what do you mean? | 21:10 |
| steven_ | cygnu1: this room is a good resource | 21:10 |
| steven_ | some more broad questions might get answered a couple minutes faster in the reg #ubuntu room | 21:10 |
| steven_ | cuz it has more people | 21:11 |
| steven_ | but if you're going xub, stay here! | 21:11 |
| steven_ | we will help | 21:11 |
| Cygnu1 | Yeah, that's the nice thing about Linux. The help is... onh, right... helpful., | 21:11 |
| lc2 | indeed | 21:11 |
| Cygnu1 | oh* | 21:11 |
| lc2 | so i'd like to think | 21:11 |
| steven_ | yeah it's very much a community i've found | 21:11 |
| steven_ | i was a windows user for years | 21:11 |
| steven_ | had to learn to PXE boot to get a laptop broken | 21:11 |
| steven_ | installed xubuntu | 21:12 |
| steven_ | and never looked back | 21:12 |
| lc2 | win | 21:12 |
| steven_ | this was about 6 months ago | 21:12 |
| Cygnu1 | Well, I'm not exactly a technotard. I do fine on Windows XP, and with hardware... Right now, it's more that I'm lost and don't know what to do rather than being an idiot. | 21:12 |
| steven_ | yeagh | 21:12 |
| * lc2 went from windows to linux about six years ago, went to bsd a couple of years later, went back to linux less than a month ago | 21:12 | |
| steven_ | it takes a while to learn | 21:12 |
| steven_ | it can be frustrating at times | 21:12 |
| steven_ | it helps t have another comp with internet access | 21:12 |
| steven_ | when you want to tweak things | 21:13 |
| Cygnu1 | It's just a lot more visceral than windows. There aren't as many pretty paint-jobs to make things look nice... | 21:13 |
| steven_ | like xorg.conf | 21:13 |
| steven_ | LOL @ cygnu | 21:13 |
| steven_ | but it is rewarding i found | 21:13 |
| steven_ | like raising a child | 21:13 |
| steven_ | teaching it to learn and grow | 21:13 |
| steven_ | LOL | 21:13 |
| steven_ | win? | 21:13 |
| lc2 | win | 21:13 |
| Cygnu1 | I mean, there's nothing that Windows does that LInux doesn't. Linux does the exact same things when installing, and whatnot, it's just that Linux says "Fuck you, install it yourself." | 21:13 |
| steven_ | LOL | 21:14 |
| steven_ | summed up nicely | 21:14 |
| Cygnu1 | "I have a terminal. Say hello." | 21:14 |
| steven_ | it's good on an older machine | 21:14 |
| Cygnu1 | Yeah. | 21:14 |
| steven_ | you can buildfrom ground up | 21:14 |
| steven_ | windows will feel bloated after using xub | 21:14 |
| steven_ | it's solightweight | 21:14 |
| Cygnu1 | Even though Linux is really starting to gain ground on Windows because of UMPCs. | 21:14 |
| lc2 | UMPCs? | 21:15 |
| steven_ | yeah | 21:15 |
| steven_ | quite | 21:15 |
| Cygnu1 | people are getting EEEs and whatnot with Xandros on them, and realizing that Linux ain't just for powerusers. | 21:15 |
| Cygnu1 | Ultra Mobile PCs. | 21:15 |
| steven_ | xubuntu is like the hidden gem | 21:15 |
| lc2 | oh, that sort of thing | 21:15 |
| steven_ | yeah | 21:15 |
| steven_ | i was gonna get an eee | 21:15 |
| Cygnu1 | And that a penguin wearing a suit can look just as appealing as Windows. | 21:15 |
| steven_ | but for a little more, i just wanna build my own xubuntu box | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | I'm looking at either the MSI Wind, or the EEE 1000. | 21:16 |
| steven_ | they're making an eee box | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | I need it for classes, mainly. The note taking. | 21:16 |
| steven_ | i believe | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | Yeah, I saw. | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | Cheap as dirt. | 21:16 |
| steven_ | yeah | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | But probably runs just fine | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | What was it, 1.6 Atom? | 21:16 |
| steven_ | but for the price, you could still build your own | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | 1 GB of RAM? | 21:16 |
| steven_ | i believe | 21:16 |
| steven_ | yeah 1 g | 21:16 |
| Cygnu1 | I mean, it's more or less exactly what you need if you just need to do word processing and internet. | 21:17 |
| steven_ | that's all i do! | 21:17 |
| steven_ | surf and type | 21:17 |
| lc2 | ditto | 21:17 |
| lc2 | that and music | 21:17 |
| steven_ | god music | 21:17 |
| Cygnu1 | Right. Oh, is there any way to get rid of the System beep? | 21:17 |
| steven_ | i forgot | 21:17 |
| steven_ | umm | 21:17 |
| steven_ | lemme check | 21:17 |
| steven_ | i knew how in ubuntu | 21:17 |
| lc2 | yes there is | 21:17 |
| Cygnu1 | Immediately, I love having my VDE. | 21:18 |
| lc2 | one of two ways | 21:18 |
| steven_ | sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | 21:18 |
| lc2 | one, via alsamixer | 21:18 |
| steven_ | blacklist pcspkr | 21:18 |
| lc2 | and the other, *think* | 21:18 |
| steven_ | add to end of file | 21:18 |
| steven_ | and save! | 21:18 |
| Cygnu1 | hahah | 21:18 |
| steven_ | profit! | 21:18 |
| Cygnu1 | haha | 21:19 |
| steven_ | haha at what? | 21:19 |
| Cygnu1 | Profit! | 21:19 |
| lc2 | okay | 21:19 |
| lc2 | in a terminal: | 21:19 |
| lc2 | xset b off | 21:19 |
| lc2 | if you liek that, then | 21:19 |
| Cygnu1 | Will that just turn it off? | 21:19 |
| lc2 | applications -> settings -> settings manager | 21:20 |
| steven_ | it should | 21:20 |
| lc2 | it will | 21:20 |
| steven_ | the modprobe blacklist works | 21:20 |
| lc2 | then | 21:20 |
| lc2 | under autostarted applications, add that command | 21:20 |
| lc2 | profit | 21:20 |
| steven_ | profit? | 21:20 |
| steven_ | in my #xubuntu? | 21:20 |
| lc2 | it's more likely than you think. | 21:20 |
| Cygnu1 | I don't see where the Settings are... | 21:21 |
| Cygnu1 | Dur | 21:21 |
| lc2 | .. yeah | 21:21 |
| Cygnu1 | at the top... I was thinking alpha. | 21:21 |
| lc2 | mhm | 21:21 |
| steven_ | did it work? | 21:23 |
| steven_ | i am curious | 21:24 |
| Woo_ | How much space does Xubuntu need? | 21:24 |
| steven_ | i never tried lc2's method | 21:24 |
| steven_ | LOL | 21:24 |
| TheSheep | Woo_: about 3GB | 21:24 |
| steven_ | i use 1gb | 21:24 |
| steven_ | off a USB thumb | 21:24 |
| steven_ | and it works perfectly | 21:25 |
| steven_ | opera for internet | 21:25 |
| Woo_ | ok so i can give it a shot installing it on 1,3GB drive I have? | 21:25 |
| TheSheep | steven_: full install? | 21:25 |
| steven_ | and openoffice for rest | 21:25 |
| Woo_ | I don't need any applications, really | 21:25 |
| steven_ | yes full persistant install | 21:25 |
| Woo_ | it will just run folding@home | 21:25 |
| steven_ | thesheep: yeah full install | 21:25 |
| Woo_ | but the *buntu distros don't like removing oorg afaik | 21:25 |
| TheSheep | steven_: weird | 21:25 |
| steven_ | why weird? | 21:26 |
| TheSheep | steven_: but it could have changed | 21:26 |
| steven_ | it took some tweaking | 21:26 |
| steven_ | wanna know how i did it? | 21:26 |
| Cygnu1 | About the system beeps. I take it I have to restart for the autorun command to work? | 21:26 |
| TheSheep | steven_: so it's not a standard full install | 21:26 |
| steven_ | no it is full install | 21:26 |
| steven_ | afaik | 21:26 |
| Woo_ | oh i misunderstood, so can i install it on my 1,3gb drive or not | 21:26 |
| Woo_ | i meant to put a question sign there | 21:26 |
| TheSheep | Woo_: not without some work | 21:27 |
| steven_ | yes you can | 21:27 |
| lc2 | Cygnu1: well, log out and back in | 21:27 |
| steven_ | it's actually not hard | 21:27 |
| steven_ | it runs like a live cd | 21:27 |
| lc2 | Cygnu1: but doing xset b off in the terminal will do it immediately | 21:27 |
| steven_ | so yeah technically not full install | 21:27 |
| steven_ | right? | 21:27 |
| Woo_ | i tried damn small linux now but my mouse or keyboard didn't work | 21:27 |
| Woo_ | and the application had an error loading or something | 21:27 |
| steven_ | this works on every computer i tried | 21:28 |
| steven_ | my laptop desktop | 21:28 |
| Cygnu1 | Gotcha. | 21:28 |
| steven_ | old comps at work | 21:28 |
| steven_ | the photo kiosk in walmart | 21:28 |
| steven_ | yeah that's right | 21:28 |
| steven_ | i did it | 21:28 |
| Woo_ | will it work if i uninstall some applications with the package manager? | 21:28 |
| Cygnu1 | The other thing I'm poking around settings for is things like graphic snazzyness, since I'm on an integrated chipset. | 21:28 |
| steven_ | go to apps>settings man>windows tweaks | 21:29 |
| steven_ | or somehting like that | 21:29 |
| steven_ | transparency | 21:29 |
| steven_ | windows mods | 21:29 |
| steven_ | easy stuff | 21:29 |
| steven_ | focus grabs | 21:29 |
| Cygnu1 | Yup | 21:29 |
| Cygnu1 | Turned off the Anti-aliasing on fonts. | 21:29 |
| steven_ | that's hwta i use | 21:29 |
| steven_ | it's not quite extra effects ala ubuntu with compiz fusion | 21:29 |
| steven_ | but it's fun | 21:29 |
| steven_ | i am using | 21:30 |
| steven_ | let's see | 21:30 |
| steven_ | blended-gtk as window manager | 21:30 |
| steven_ | with xfce-dusk as theme | 21:30 |
| steven_ | it looks sweet | 21:30 |
| steven_ | it takes getting used to | 21:31 |
| steven_ | but it seems like less strain on the eyes | 21:31 |
| steven_ | why u turn off anti-aliasing? | 21:31 |
| Cygnu1 | Because it's AA. | 21:32 |
| Cygnu1 | on an integrated chipset. | 21:32 |
| steven_ | sorry i misuderstand | 21:32 |
| steven_ | it doesn't render or what's wrong? | 21:32 |
| Cygnu1 | Nothing's wrong. | 21:34 |
| Cygnu1 | It just alleviates strain on an otherwise crappy graphics engine. | 21:34 |
| Cygnu1 | Rather | 21:34 |
| Cygnu1 | not engine, but hardware. | 21:34 |
| steven_ | what's ur graphics card? | 21:35 |
| steven_ | how much strain you think it actually alleviates? | 21:36 |
| steven_ | cygnu1: how's it going? | 21:47 |
| steven_ | updates done? | 21:51 |
| lc2 | i wouldn't bother turning off anti-aliasing | 21:57 |
| lc2 | since that's done in hardware amirite | 21:57 |
| lc2 | and it's not like any graphics card since like, 1999 will be stressed out just running X | 21:57 |
| lc2 | but wat do i no lol | 21:57 |
| steven_ | u no natting | 21:58 |
| steven_ | lol that's why i was asking | 21:58 |
| steven_ | lawls | 22:02 |
| hyppias | is hardy good now for eeepc | 22:33 |
| azexian | hi, need help getting a touchscreen working | 22:34 |
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| thinkmassive | hmm I wonder what kind of touchscreen azexian has | 23:10 |
| * lc2 doesn't know | 23:10 | |
| lc2 | i guess we never will | 23:11 |
| thinkmassive | it's too bad | 23:12 |
| thinkmassive | I wish the touchscreen on my tablet was supported | 23:12 |
| thinkmassive | then again I don't really use the pen except to show it off right now | 23:12 |
| thinkmassive | meh | 23:12 |
| lc2 | meh ;\ | 23:13 |
| Nyad | Hi. I need to reset my xubuntu configuration back to defaults, something has gone wrong and I can no longer see anything, when it starts up the screen is blank | 23:24 |
| Nyad | it has the backgroung | 23:24 |
| Nyad | but it doesn't load the XFCE interface properly, kde and everything else works fine | 23:24 |
| naynay | Hi everyone, would anyone know if overclocking would keep my sound drivers from working? | 23:44 |
| steven_ | good question | 23:44 |
| steven_ | i don't think so | 23:44 |
| naynay | humm...Might be something else then, but thats the only change i've made lately. | 23:45 |
| steven_ | perhaps | 23:45 |
| naynay | Here is the dmesg outbut for alsa http://paste.ubuntu.com/22461/ | 23:52 |
| Cygnu1 | These System Beeps are annoying. Anybody know how to turn them off? | 23:58 |
| Cygnu1 | I already tried blacklisting with AutoStarted Apps... | 23:59 |
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