[00:00] <wimpies> how can I add an action for DVD ? I read somewhere system->preferences->storage manager but I cannot find that menu anywhere
[00:00] <psyco> Can I resize icons in systray??
[00:03] <vipex> hello
[00:05] <vipex> Anyone know's can i download java runtime environment to kubuntu?
[00:06] <psyco> Yes.
[00:07] <psyco> Open package manager, search java and get... (sec)
[00:07] <vipex> O
[00:07] <vloideh> hi
[00:07] <genii> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[00:07] <psyco> yup that
[00:07] <vloideh> how i can put more channels on konversations?
[00:08] <vipex> So i do it from konsole
[00:08] <vipex> ?
[00:08] <genii> vipex: Yes
[00:09] <vipex> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre-java6-plugin ?
[00:10] <genii> psyco: Searching the kde site produces no satisfactory answer to resizing syste tray icons, unfortunately.
[00:10] <genii> *system
[00:10] <genii> vipex: No
[00:10] <genii> vipex: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[00:10] <vipex> ok
[00:10] <vloideh> i want more channels please
[00:12] <genii> vloideh: You join whatever other channels by: /j #channelname
[00:13] <vloideh> thanks but i dont know the list of channels
[00:13] <Ninjara> 8.04 - Changed ssh_config with "ForwardX11Trusted no" for security reasons, but now remote clients run a bunch slower, and resolution/depth on images and such is very low.  How do I tweak the restrictions imposed on remote clients (using 'ssh -X user@host somecommand'') ?
[00:14] <Ninjara> Especially getting the clients back up to speed.
[00:14] <genii> vloideh: Usually you have an idea of what channel you want to go to :) Getting a channel list takes much resources and is discouraged.
[00:14] <genii> vloideh: That said F5 will give a list
[00:15] <vipex> thx genii now my firefox got java:)
[00:15] <genii> vipex: You're welcome
[00:16] <vloideh> thx, on my list of channels only i can see this channel
[00:17] <genii> Ninjara: Try -C switch of ssh
[00:17] <Ninjara> Tried, no difference.
[00:17] <Ninjara> It worked fine without compression when they ran as trusted, anyhow.
[00:18] <Ninjara> I'm just thinking there has to be a restriction forced on the untrusted clients that makes them run this slow.
[00:18] <genii> Ninjara: There's no other options which can be passed through ssh then regarding connection speed.
[00:18] <Ninjara> All I wanted was really to prevent remote clients from reading keyboard input and accessing other winddows, allowing them otherwise normal behaviour is fine.
[00:18] <Ninjara> hrm
[00:19] <Ninjara> I assumed it was an X-security specific thing.. vaguely hoping someone around is familiar enough with it to give me a friendly pointer ;o)
[00:22] <vipex> Genii do u know any good free security programs to kubuntu?
[00:22] <heric> someone can tell me
[00:22] <heric> some pag in in spanish
[00:23] <Finnish> I changed my nick
[00:23] <Finnish> Is it now better?
[00:24] <VipeX> ahh now is good
[00:24] <genii> !es | heric
[00:24] <VipeX> So do anyone know good free security programs
[00:24] <heric> gracias
[00:24] <heric> thak you ubottu
[00:24] <genii> VipeX: firestarter and watchdog
[00:25] <VipeX> Ok where i can load them?=
[00:25] <genii> VipeX: From add/remove programs
[00:25] <VipeX> Ok
[00:25] <VipeX> ty
[00:29] <VipeX> Im using firestarter.
[00:29] <genii> guarddog   rather, not watchdog
[00:30] <joshual> hi folks, i installede kubuntu and allowed it to install dual boot with xp on my parents pc, they don't have the patience to use it so Id like to remove it... what is an easy way?
[00:31] <VipeX> Can i have finnish channel link?
[00:31] <yulprand> hi
[00:31] <genii> !fi
[00:32] <VipeX> Thanks
[00:32] <genii> np
[00:32] <yulprand> can somebody giveme the chat place in spanish please
[00:33] <genii> joshual: Boot to XP cdrom, choose Recovery Console. Then fixboot and fixmbr
[00:33] <joshual> genii: I don't have that cdrom anylonger
[00:33] <yulprand> hola alguien habla español acá que me pueda ayudar
[00:33] <genii> joshual: After that rightclick...Manage on My Computer to get to hd management section where you can find the partition which ubuntu had and use it again
[00:34] <genii> joshual: I guess you'll have to convince them to go buy one then.
[00:34] <joshual> there is no other way?
[00:34] <genii> joshual: Correct
[00:35] <VipeX> is any other programs to kubuntu like kopete instant messenger?
[00:35] <genii> yulprand: Spanish channels here include #ubuntu-es and #ubuntu-br
[00:35] <joshual> i dont buy that for a sec
[00:36] <yulprand> vale gracias !!!
[00:36] <genii> joshual: Go ask them in ##windows channel then if you doubt :)
[00:40] <nyuu_> hi
[00:40] <nyuu_> is anybody out there?
[00:42] <candive> sometimes
[00:43] <candive> this is a quiet channel, I blame kubuntu for it. because it works Great
[00:43] <genii> nyuu_: Better to just ask your question and see if anyone knows an approach.
[00:43] <genii> candive: :)
[00:43] <candive> genii :)
[00:44] <VipeX> Anyone know other chat programs to kubuntu like kopete instant msnger
[00:44] <genii> !info pidgin
[00:45] <nyuu_> genii: hi
[00:45] <nyuu_> my problem is
[00:45] <VipeX> I know tht but  its not working?
[00:45] <nyuu_> genii: I had installed mplayer with svc
[00:45] <nyuu_> genii: but I couldn't do that correctly
[00:45] <genii> You mean svn?
[00:46] <nyuu_> yea ^^ sorry
[00:46] <nyuu_> I am newbie
[00:46] <genii> nyuu_: Just install from Add/Remove Programs
[00:46] <nyuu_> I want to watch hd1080 movies, but now my mplayer has gone
[00:46] <nyuu_> now, I want to make a clean install
[00:46] <nyuu_> how can I do it
[00:47] <candive> did you not install os
[00:47] <nyuu_> ok :S
[00:47] <genii> nyuu_: In Konsole:    sudo dpkg -r mplayer; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayer
[00:48] <genii> VipeX: Pidgin does not work for you?
[00:49] <candive> nyuu, start, system, konsole
[00:49] <nyuu_> why didn't u use the ' &&' thing?
[00:50] <nyuu_> and what is the dpkg -r thing?
[00:50] <bonbonthejon> are other people starting to get ata errors
[00:50] <candive> nyuu,follow instructions carefully please
[00:51] <genii> nyuu_: You could use && if you like. It doesn't really matter. And dpkg is the backend program which package manager like Adept or Synaptic or apt-get uses
[00:51] <nyuu_> hmm
[00:51] <nyuu_> but it didn't change anything
[00:51] <nyuu_> ok I will try to find a way but at first I want to ask a question
[00:52] <nyuu_> how can I make a script with bash codes
[00:52] <psyco> Does anyoen know how to fix the black menus in Baghira???
[00:52] <VipeX> Genii:Nothing anymore its working..:)
[00:52] <nyuu_> I want to make a 'bash' script to use it whenever I want
[00:53] <bonbonthejon> psyco: I don't know your particular problem, but sometimes it helps to restart kicker
[00:53] <bonbonthejon> psyco: hit Ctrl-F2, then run dcop kicker kicker restart
[00:53] <psyco> Thanks
[00:54] <psyco> Ill try
[00:54] <psyco> Didn't work.
[00:55] <psyco> It got rid of my systray though XD
[00:55] <bonbonthejon> psyco: it should come back
[00:56] <psyco> My problem is, certain apps like Synaptics, cairo-dock, and Azureus have black menus. Its because of a black window background on black font but I can't change it.
[00:56] <psyco> bonbonthejon: I have to restart X for systray to come back.
[00:56] <psyco> I'll do that later.
[00:57] <psyco> I also know that changing the style solves my menu problem.
[00:57] <bonbonthejon> in the past few day, I have started getting ATA errors. Has this happened for anyone else?
[00:57] <psyco> But all other styles look bad with baghira except for baghira style.
[01:00] <genii> VipeX: nothing anymore is working (eg: no messaging program seems to work), or nothing anymore, it's working (pidgin is running now)
[01:01] <genii> ?
[01:01] <VipeX> genii: pidgin works now.
[01:02] <genii> VipeX: OK. I was confused for a minute.
[01:02] <genii> nyuu_: kmplayer already comes with kde way to start mplayer.
[01:03] <candive> !SABDFL
[01:06] <Zombine> Anyone know the console command for "guessing" a file type?
[01:06] <genii> Zombine: man file    might tell you
[01:08] <Zombine> genii: Quite a bit actually.  Does it often work that you can do "man [basic concept here]" and get something back?
[01:09] <genii> Zombine: Yes, these are the manpages
[01:10] <Zombine> genii: Ah I see.  Figured they only made those for programs and commands.  That's really neat.
[01:11] <genii> Zombine: If in konqueror you put url of     man:/               you may find it useful to browse occasionally :)
[01:12] <Zombine> genii: heh I see.  Thanks :D
[01:12] <genii> Zombine: You're welcome
[01:19] <candive> !LoCo
[01:21] <genii> candive: If you're going to be interrogating the bot much, better to   /msg ubottu Hello                  and then you can bug him all you want :)
[01:22] <Zombine> well thanks guy, I gotta be on my way
[01:26] <cheech> hi
[01:31] <iCEifer> hello, I am running with 1gb of RAM but sometimes top says there is less than 15mb of mem left...is this pretty poor performance and does it mean I am paging a lot to the hard drive?
[01:32] <genii> Only when you go over your physical ram.
[01:33] <iCEifer> cool, so I still am doing okay and wouldn't notice much of a difference if I upgrade my mem? :)
[01:33] <genii> Not much, no
[01:34] <genii> Although the more the better usually, as a general rule. If you go over about 3.2Gb you'll need server kernel of i386 or the 64 bit install to see it all
[01:36] <iCEifer> right.
[01:37] <VipeX> genil do u know why i get this error msg when i try install or reinstall on adept manager please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[01:39] <genii> VipeX: The cdrom is listed in the possible places to install things from. In Adept go to "Edit Software Sources" and uncheck where it has the CD at the bottom there.
[01:42] <VipeX> genii: ummmmm???:P
[01:44] <genii> Vipex: When you have Adept open, it has a button called "Edit Software Sources"  on bottom right. Thats where you have to go to disable the cdrom.
[01:44] <genii> *bottom left       rather
[01:47] <VipeX> genii: There isnt any "Edit Software Sources " button..
[01:49] <VipeX> genii: But thx anyway. I gtg sleep till. Cos time is here 3:49 am.
[01:50] <genii> VipeX: There certainly is on mine... http://i32.tinypic.com/34tbmlt.png
[01:50] <genii> VipeX: OK. Sleep well then.
[01:51] <candive> genii,  /msg ubottu Hello  ??
[01:52] <genii> candive: Yes, that opens a window with the bot
[01:52] <candive>  /msg ubottu Hello
[01:52] <genii> The Hello part is traditional
[01:52] <candive>  /msg ubottu
[01:53] <genii> candive: Only one / not //
[01:53] <candive> I only see one?
[01:54] <candive> got it thanks
[01:54] <genii> Since we see here /msg ubottu                you have to put //msg ubottu for us to normally see this
[01:54] <genii> candive: np
[01:54] <VipeX> genii: Hey where u get tht window whats on picture?
[01:54] <candive> really cool
[01:55] <VipeX> genii: I have adept opened but i dont have thatwindow what u do
[01:55] <genii> VipeX: KButton...Add/Remove Programs ....       there it should ask for password, put your regular one. Then it opens to what you see there. Normally.
[01:57] <VipeX> genii: oh ok i installed kubuntu yesterday thts why i dont know anything:D
[01:57] <genii> VipeX: No worries, everyone knew nothing at some time :)
[01:59] <sussel> Hi! Does anyone know a good channel for some swedish support on this server?
[01:59] <genii> !se
[02:00] <VipeX> genii: okay it works now . im going to sleep now. And thx.:)
[02:00] <genii> sussel: But if you speak english well enough, probably you will get more assistance here
[02:00] <genii> VipeX: Sleep well :)
[02:01] <sussel> Okey. Iäll give it a try... :)
[02:01] <sussel> I'll
[02:03] <sussel> As you problably just saw, i have a slight problem with the characters in this IRC-client I'm using (Koversation is the name of it). In sweden we use some chars that looks like a O with two dots over it. But when i type it, it just turns out like this: ö. Doas anyone know how to fix this problem?
[02:06] <genii> sussel: From here the character looks like you describe it should. an o with two dots over it.
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys!
[02:07] <genii> Drk_Guy: Heya
[02:08] <candive> genii, good night. going to try to recruit some more newbees now.
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> Hiya genii
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> candivem how¿?
[02:09] <genii> Drk_Guy: I guess we'll never know now!
[02:09] <Drk_Guy> I'm trying to downlad vdrift's svn
[02:09] <Drk_Guy> lol genii, you right
[02:09] <sussel> genii:  Hmm, thats strange. ALOT of people on another server says that the character looks like this: Ã¶.
[02:09] <genii> Perhaps the server does not understand UTF8
[02:09] <Drk_Guy> WTF?
[02:10] <Drk_Guy> UTF8 is a standrad
[02:10] <Drk_Guy> *standard
[02:10] <genii> Drk_Guy: Yup.
[02:10] <Drk_Guy> How wouldn't freenode won't support it
[02:10] <genii> Drk_Guy: He said another server :)
[02:10] <Drk_Guy> lol, sorry ;)
[02:10] <Drk_Guy> I think it was like on kornbluth or st
[02:11] <Drk_Guy> Fun thing, vdrift renders maps and tracks with PNG's XD
[02:14] <psyco> what is the command to run Kmenu at 0,0 ?
[02:16] <LetsGo67> How can I play protected dvd with vlc?
[02:16] <Drk_Guy> LetsGo67: You need medibuntu
[02:16] <Drk_Guy> Lemme get you link
[02:17] <LetsGo67> Drk_Guy did that more often than not
[02:18] <Drk_Guy> LetsGo67: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[02:18] <Drk_Guy> Install the repos from it, then install libdvdccs2 and vlc
[02:18] <LetsGo67> Drk_Guy I do so much to play something that I should be able to play in the beginning, but still it deson't work.
[02:19] <LetsGo67> Nor does it work on Windows Vista with VLC.
[02:19] <genii> psyco: Have you tried passing it some standard X command like:  kmenu --geometry widthvaluexheightvalue+0+0                  ?
[02:19] <Drk_Guy> LetsGo67: DVD is non-free, ubuntu can't include it by default
[02:19] <genii> Where widthvalue and heightvalue should of course be something useful
[02:19] <LetsGo67> Drk_Guy: and CD, is it free?
[02:19] <psyco>  genii: I havent tried anything because I had no clue how lol
[02:20] <Drk_Guy> CD?
[02:20] <LetsGo67> Yes CD is free open sources public domain crative commons.
[02:21] <alex_> Hey
[02:21] <LetsGo67> DVD is not free proprietary closed sourecs protected encrypted digital rights management.
[02:21] <LetsGo67> hi alex_
[02:21] <LetsGo67> !cd
[02:21] <alex_> I was wondering how to make my simpletech usb portable hard drive work with ubuntu
[02:21] <alex_> I don't know how at all.
[02:21] <LetsGo67> !music cd
[02:21] <LetsGo67> !stupid ubottu
[02:21] <LetsGo67> !bot
[02:21] <alex_> It keeps saying something wrong with the volume.
[02:22] <LetsGo67> sighs
[02:22] <LetsGo67> dvd doesn't play.
[02:22] <Drk_Guy> !dvd
[02:22] <alex_> hard drive doesn't work.
[02:22] <genii> psyco: If memory serves you can omit width and height and it will use default values for the app. so something like     kmenu +0+0    might work
[02:22] <Drk_Guy> It should work as a usb stick
[02:23] <LetsGo67> Can't play dvd guys
[02:23] <alex_> I plugged it into 2 different ports, and its not working on either. Somethings wrong with the code or something liek that.
[02:23] <alex_> like*
[02:23] <LetsGo67> please help me play dvd
[02:24] <alex_> do you have a dvd drive...?
[02:24] <LetsGo67> Yes alex_ no duh
[02:24] <LetsGo67> No offense ;)
[02:24] <alex_> Ha I was just asking!
[02:24] <alex_> I
[02:24] <alex_> m
[02:24] <Drk_Guy> lol
[02:24] <LetsGo67> alex_ I can paly unencryped dvds
[02:24] <alex_> really confused as to why it won't read my hard drive. I have all my music on that.
[02:25] <Drk_Guy> !dvd | LetsGo67
[02:25] <LetsGo67> I tried that too often, didn't work.
[02:25] <Drk_Guy> LetsGo67: Follow those instructions, it helps for encrypted/un-encrypted
[02:25] <Drk_Guy> LetsGo67: add medibuntu and install libdvdcss2 man, it works
[02:26] <psyco> genii: I found what I used to use, someone gave it to me it was
[02:26] <psyco> dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0,0
[02:26] <LetsGo67> easyubuntu?
[02:27] <Drk_Guy> !automatix | LetsGo67
[02:28] <alex_> Unable to mount the volume "my baby"
[02:28] <genii> psyco: Glad it got worked out
[02:28] <alex__> so does anyone know like
[02:28] <alex__> how to fix that?
[02:28] <alex__> whats the volume?
[02:28] <alex__> its a 500gb usb hard drive.
[02:28] <alex__> is that to much for ubuntu?
[02:29] <genii> No
[02:29] <genii> alex__: What filesystem is on it?
[02:29] <alex__> then what does unable to mount volume mean?
[02:29] <alex__> What do you mean file system?
[02:29] <alex__> like drive?
[02:29] <LetsGo67> What about: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh ?
[02:30] <genii> alex__: Did you format the drive from linux in ext3 filesystem like Ubuntu is, or is it with Windows NTFS filesystem ion it for instance
[02:30] <alex__> I have no idea what that means.
[02:30] <alex__> Could you show me a page that would guide me through that?
[02:30] <alex__> or could you?
[02:30] <LetsGo67> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh doesnt work
[02:31]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Later guys
[02:31] <LetsGo67> No duh amd64 instructions
[02:31] <LetsGo67> bye drk_guy...
[02:32] <genii> alex__: I'll help you. Do you know how to use pastebin ?
[02:32] <alex__> Thank you for at least trying to help, I appreciate it already.
[02:32] <alex__> and no
[02:32] <alex__> whats pastebin?
[02:32] <genii> !pastebin | alex__
[02:32] <alex__> sorry if I seem a little slow, I just installed ubuntu today.
[02:33] <genii> alex__: So often we ask people to copy something from their computer and put it to that website so we can look it over to diagnose problems or so on.
[02:33] <LetsGo67> libdvdnav: Suspected RCE Region Protection!!!
[02:33] <LetsGo67> [00000283] main playlist: nothing to play
[02:34] <alex__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22488/
[02:34] <LetsGo67> Doesn,t owkr!
[02:35] <genii> alex__: So in this case, we need to find out first: What drive device the thing gets. So unplug it from the usb port, then plug it back in.   Then go to program Konsole and put in:  dmesg|tail        and then copy that to the pastebin for me.
[02:35] <LetsGo67> moo rar meow woof
[02:36] <genii> LetsGo67: Add the medibuntu repository to your sources.list and install libdvdcss2     Thats about all there is to it.
[02:36] <LetsGo67> genni benn there done that
[02:36] <alex__> Genii, Where is program konsole?
[02:37] <genii> LetsGo67: When you do: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2      does it have some asterisks beside it indicating it's been installed?
[02:37] <genii> alex__: KButton...System...Konsole
[02:38] <bonbonthejon> alex__:  `which konsole`
[02:38] <LetsGo67>   Installé : 1.2.9-2medibuntu4
[02:38] <LetsGo67>   Candidat : 1.2.9-2medibuntu4
[02:38] <LetsGo67>  Table de version :
[02:38] <LetsGo67>  *** 1.2.9-2medibuntu4 0
[02:38] <LetsGo67>         500 http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/free Packages
[02:38] <LetsGo67>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:39] <genii> LetsGo67: What program are you using to try and play the DVD?
[02:39] <LetsGo67> vlc genii
[02:39] <genii> LetsGo67: Try kaffeine instead
[02:40] <LetsGo67> genii: but that takes a lot of kde dependecies, I'm on xfce (sorry, didn't tell you)
[02:41] <LetsGo67> I spent almost two hours on this
[02:41] <genii> LetsGo67: Then you want to ask in a non-KDE channel. xfce still uses GTK so #ubuntu or else #xubuntu
[02:41] <alex__> Wheres the "K" button? my computer just freaked out and made the "trash" window turn on like 20 times.
[02:42] <LetsGo67> #ubuntu blocked me
[02:42] <genii> alex__: On kde3 boxes the K with the wheel is usually on far left bottom. On kde4 it's somewhere near bottom right side instead.
[02:42] <genii> LetsGo67: So try #xubuntu since you're on xfce anyhow
[02:43] <alex__> I'm using Ubuntu
[02:43] <alex__> are we talking about  the same thing?
[02:43] <LetsGo67> No help
[02:43] <LetsGo67> at least they are trying
[02:44] <genii> alex__: No. So open the program Terminal instead. And it's better to ask questions about ubuntu in #ubuntu channel and not here, for future reference
[02:44] <alex__> I'm sorry, this was the first thing that came up in the IRC client.
[02:45] <genii> alex__: Is your background brown or blue?
[02:45] <alex__> Brown.
[02:45] <genii> Then ubuntu
[02:45] <alex__> Yes.
[02:45] <alex__> So I guess i'll be going to the ubuntu channel now.
[02:46] <genii> alex__: But same underlying principle is involved of using the terminal/konsole to execute commands etc
[02:46] <alex__> oh.
[02:46] <alex__> so you'lll still be able to help me?
[02:46] <genii> alex__: I'm in there so I'll assist if no one else does.
[02:47] <genii> LetsGo67: Do you have package w32codecs   also installed?
[02:48] <alex__> that room is packed.
[02:48] <LetsGo67> getting there genii
[02:48] <LetsGo67> amen alex__!
[02:49] <msi> hola
[02:49] <alex__> would you mind just helping me in here, Genii?
[02:50] <LetsGo67> genii thanks but w32codecs doesn't help
[02:50] <msi> algien en español
[02:51] <LetsGo67> #kubuntu-es
[02:51] <msi> gracias
[02:52] <genii> LetsGo67: Have you done a reboot since you installed the libdvdcss2 and w32codecs ?   Likely cached data
[02:52] <LetsGo67> No...
[02:52] <LetsGo67> ctrl+alt+escape or entire reboot?
[02:53] <alex__> Wow, Everytime I try to open firefox in ubuntu it freaks out and opens like 20 tabs
[02:53] <alex__> This is getting almost uncontrollable and bugging the hell out of me.
[02:53] <genii> alex__: Since I'm currently using kde I may not be able to direct you through the menus to the applications and so on. But I can try as well as I can
[02:53] <genii> LetsGo67: Complete
[02:53] <LetsGo67> Genii: just installed new linux kernel, could that be why?
[02:53] <alex__> That would be great genii, could we start where we left off?
[02:53] <genii> LetsGo67: Possibly. But i think suspect is cached data relevant to vlc or such
[02:54] <genii> alex__: So did you open Terminal and pastebin rsult of:    dmesg|tail                yet? (after unplugging USB plug and replugging it)
[02:54] <LetsGo67> genii: maybe, but why won't it work on Vista?
[02:54] <efasser> hi 2all
[02:54] <bdizzle> hi, question
[02:55] <genii> LetsGo67: Maybe you have a bum DVD
[02:55] <efasser> what i may use instead of "CD" in terminal on kubuntu hardy?
[02:55] <bdizzle> how do I modify Kubuntu so that when it unlocks from screensaver, it runs sudo alsa force-reload?
[02:56] <genii> efasser: To change directories?
[02:57] <efasser> Genii: yep... im installing program and there goes a line "cd program_name" and in terminal i get "sudo: cd: command not found" =(
[02:57] <efasser> genii: Excuse
[02:58] <efasser> genii: I find out... i don't need to use "sudo"
[02:58] <ectospasm> I just installed kubuntu over an existing debian installation.  I've tried moving/removing .kde, but I can't seem to get a default kde setup
[02:58] <Agent_bob> yissue with vlc, seems that anytime i have vlc playing vidio and switch tty's vlc is no longer able to display vidio until reboot.    (dapper on a lappy with ati chips)
[02:58] <ectospasm> (I'm running Kubuntu Hardy)
[02:59] <Agent_bob> efasser why would you "sudo cd blah" ???
[03:00] <ectospasm> Agent_bob: perhaps only root can read/execd directory 'blah'?
[03:00] <josh_> Josh
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[03:00] <ectospasm> ?
[03:00] <josh_> Josh
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[03:00] <Agent_bob> that would start a subprocess that was owned by root which would change directories to "blah" then exit leaving you exactly where you were.
[03:00] <Agent_bob> ectospasm ^
[03:00] <josh_> i like being josh
[03:01] <Agent_bob> we don't like you spamming the channel though
[03:01] <bdizzle> ...you're spamming in a help channel not cool
[03:02]  * ectospasm wonders why a bot/op didn't kickban it
[03:02] <LetsGo67> regionset what does it do?
[03:02] <efasser> Agent_bob: Gust memory =) "make all commands with SUDO"
[03:02] <efasser> Agent_bob: LMAAO
[03:02] <efasser> Agent_bob: Just
[03:03] <genii> LetsGo67: regionset will change the country of your dvd player. You can only run it a limited number of times. This is for when for instance you want to play a European DVD on a North American DVD player. Normally this is not allowed.
[03:04] <Agent_bob> efasser ?   if you want a root shell "sudo -i"   then you can cd, rm, cp, mv, ..., as root all you want,  but sudo cd is not even a valid exrecise in futility
[03:04] <bdizzle> I'm surprised that even on linux, you can only run it a number of times
[03:04] <LetsGo67> genii output http://pastebin.ca/1054856 read please I am scared
[03:04] <genii> alex__: You alive over there?
[03:04] <efasser> Agent_bob: Now i know =)
[03:04] <ectospasm> does anyone know how I can wipe my KDE profile and start fresh?  Removing .kde didn't seem to do the trick...
[03:04] <efasser> Agent_bob: Thanks 4r "sudo -i" command
[03:05] <Agent_bob> !sudo | efasser you can learn more
[03:05] <bdizzle> question?
[03:05] <bdizzle> how do I modify Kubuntu so that when it unlocks from screensaver, it runs sudo alsa force-reload? For some reason, the sound always cuts out when screensaver goes into effect, and never comes back
[03:05] <genii> LetsGo67: You have already a region-free DVD player then (when it does not show a specific region), this is a good thing.
[03:06] <genii> LetsGo67: I would not change the region on it to anything.
[03:06] <efasser> Agent_bob: start reading
[03:06] <josh_> sorry people that was my little bro spaming a bit ago
[03:07] <LetsGo67> DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!  DVD WORKS!
[03:07] <bdizzle> oiy
[03:07] <bdizzle> [22:05] <bdizzle> how do I modify Kubuntu so that when it unlocks from screensaver, it runs sudo alsa force-reload? For some reason, the sound always cuts out when screensaver goes into effect, and never comes back
[03:07] <bdizzle> [22:05] <genii> LetsGo67: You have already a region-free DVD player then (when it does not show a specific region), this is a good thing.
[03:07] <bdizzle> [22:06] <genii> LetsGo67: I would not change the region on it to anything.
[03:07] <bdizzle> [22:06] <efasser> Agent_bob: start reading
[03:07] <bdizzle> gah, sorry
[03:07] <genii> LetsGo67: Good :)
[03:08] <LetsGo67> genii: yeah, but without changing region, i can't play any dvd.
[03:08] <bdizzle> another question.
[03:08] <Agent_bob> is it a full moon ?    or us this just the night of the dumb asses ?
[03:08] <genii> LetsGo67: Ah, this is the new thing, they are trying to make the regionfree ones too painful to buy now
[03:08] <LetsGo67> genii: it onlu means that non-north american dvds won,t play.
[03:08] <LetsGo67> genni: is that so?
[03:09] <genii> LetsGo67: Yes especially Sony/BMG
[03:09] <bdizzle> I'm using a laptop and somehow it manages to copy and paste stuff without me realizing it when my finger brushes against the mousepad by mistake. Is there a way to correct this?
[03:09] <genii> bdizzle: I have the same problem, I've just learnt to live with it
[03:10] <bdizzle> yeah, same here. I was just wondering if there was a way around it
[03:10] <LetsGo67> genii: those guys are mean.
[03:11] <Agent_bob> bdizzle i have a card (pasteboard cutout) that i cover mine with until needed.   not a cure but i get along with it.
[03:11] <LetsGo67> genii: they do not release songs as iTunes plus because they want people to buy musicpass.
[03:11] <genii> LetsGo67: Yup. Almost evil, even.
[03:11] <bdizzle> gotcha
[03:11] <LetsGo67> BOO SONY
[03:12] <genii> LetsGo67: Anyhow You can sometimes bypass the regionset limit by flashing your cd drive firmware. But it depends what models.
[03:12] <bdizzle> does anyone know about the screensaver bug though?
[03:12] <bdizzle> I know the quick fix, but I need to konw of a way to automate it
[03:14] <LetsGo67> genii: what's that?
[03:14] <LetsGo67> genii: what are the chances that I buy a dvd that is not in canada or usa?
[03:15] <Agent_bob> bdizzle you could have the screensaver run a script,  line one locks the screen  and line two restores the alsa   ?
[03:15] <genii> LetsGo67: The firmware is the instructiions on chips inside your cd drive. Like BIOS on a computer. Some can be upgraded like a computer BIOS can be upgraded.
[03:15] <genii> LetsGo67: Usually the firmware is international.
[03:16]  * Agent_bob wonders why anyone still buys "DRM'd" crap.
[03:16] <bdizzle> how do I go about that? I've got very little programming experience and even less with linux, but I'm not afraid to try
[03:17] <LetsGo67> SOY JUDS 3D!
[03:17] <LetsGo67> SPY KIDS 3D!
[03:18] <LetsGo67> Pie all over my screen.
[03:19] <efasser> Agent_bob:  when i use "root shell" i dont need to place "sudo" in each lin?
[03:19] <efasser> Agent_bob: Am i right?
[03:19] <Agent_bob> efasser correct
[03:19] <Agent_bob> efasser while it wont change anything, sudo is useless to root
[03:20] <LetsGo67> 3D MOVIES ARE SICK!
[03:20] <Agent_bob> it's root telling the system to run the next process as root        "like duh"
[03:25]  * Agent_bob wonders about setting up sudo to echo "you are already root, but not for long!"  when called as root, and then have it call logout,  or killall on the PPID or something.
[03:25] <Agent_bob> killall5 maybe   :)))
[03:27] <Agent_bob> i have it,    kill -9 -1     >:]
[03:27]  * genii sips his coffee
[03:28] <Agent_bob> if only it could do that and then laugh at the user....
[03:29] <LetsGo67> genii: thanks for your help ttyl
[03:30] <genii> Agent_bob: Maybe there needs to be some sudoers wizard
[03:31] <Agent_bob> o.O
[03:31]  * genii runs to avoid the baseball bat!
[03:32] <psyco> Anyone know how to resize the icons in the system tray?
[03:32] <Agent_bob> i've been saying for years that default sudoers is a joke.     so yes there does need to be some "sudoers wizard"   imo.
[03:33] <Agent_bob> psyco that should be an FAQ   and even may be one.
[03:33] <Agent_bob> i can't answer it though.
[03:33] <psyco> lol ok
[03:34] <genii> I'm pretty sure the icons just resize themselves according to the size of your bar. Some probs with pidgin and xchat icons
[03:34] <psyco> I'll make a screen
[03:34] <Agent_bob> genii not in dapper they don't.   they are a fixed size.
[03:34]  * genii bets it's a Gnome icon oversized
[03:34] <genii> psyco: You on 6.06 or some later version?
[03:35] <Agent_bob> i'm on dapper.
[03:35] <psyco> Hardy, KDE3 and it is all the icons.
[03:35] <psyco> I am using a "top-menu bar"
[03:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> genii: i got an old kubuntu 5.10 cd, after all my isos came out bad, so i started installing and made a partition so my discs are half and half, thing is, i stopped installing hwen it said that it was going to format both the created partition and the windows one with all its files, so i stopped as i didn't want it to erase all my stuff, i backed up some of the files i have on windows
[03:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i still don't know how to avoid erasing and still install
[03:36] <genii> CostaRicanQuaker: It should not have wanted to format the windows partition unless you told the installer to use it for some reason
[03:36] <genii> CostaRicanQuaker: I'd just recommend to have Canonical ship you some cds
[03:36] <psyco> Ok, here is the screen of my system tray http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2384/systrayhf8.jpg
[03:36] <psyco> See all the icons are too big.
[03:37] <psyco> I am using a top menu bar instead of a taskbar.
[03:37] <psyco> I think using a taskbar will solve my problem, I'll try.
[03:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> it cvame to a point in which it says, "all information willbe deleted, including the partitions to be formatted", then it lists the swap and ext3 but it says "all information" as in referring to everything, then i read on the back of the package: "tthe default installation will erase all existing software and data from your computer, however and expert installation mode is available"
[03:38]  * Agent_bob thinks that   "system tray" != "system tray"
[03:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> genii: i already did that, it told me it might be 16 weeks
[03:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> i ordered 15 cds
[03:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> to get my whole community to switch
[03:39] <genii> Agent_bob: Yah looks like the fast-start (or so) icons
[03:39] <Agent_bob> yeah
[03:40] <bipolar> has anyone seen a backport of virtualbox 1.6.2 to Hardy?
[03:40] <genii> psyco: Maybe make your bar a bit larger
[03:41] <psyco> I couldn't because it was a top menu bar option. But I got rid of that and made a taskbar. Icons auto resize for that XD
[03:41] <genii> psyco: Ah, good then.
[03:41] <psyco> Yes. Hooray.
[03:42] <Agent_bob> hoary ?
[03:42] <psyco> Well I am off.
[03:42] <psyco> Yes Bob, Hooray.
[03:42] <psyco> Night all,.
[03:42] <genii> Agent_bob: hehe
[03:42] <Agent_bob> :)
[03:44]  * Agent_bob released a pun there ^
[03:46] <droach> anyone on here today.
[03:46] <dak> they ever going to fix vpn in knetworkmanager ?
[03:46] <Agent_bob> no
[03:46] <psyco> lol I am back. I had something I totally need to ask.
[03:47] <psyco> Does anyone know how to fix the black menus from Baghira?
[03:47] <droach> Nope ive never used Baghira
[03:47] <Agent_bob> set them transparent and adjust the shading ?
[03:48] <Agent_bob> that's a guess
[03:48] <myk_robinson> you guys having issues with Firefox 3 running slow? All the betas and RCs seemed fine, but the final release creepsl ike the dead!!
[03:49] <psyco> Oh I forgot to mention it is only with GTK apps .
[03:49] <Agent_bob> do the dead creep ?
[03:49] <myk_robinson> yup..
[03:49] <myk_robinson> at least inthe movies
[03:50] <Agent_bob> or "only in the movies"
[03:50] <droach> i tried tried firfefox three something about it i just didnt like
[03:51] <psyco> droach: you are like my dad.
[03:52] <droach> what you mean
[03:52] <genii> psyco: Maybe use package gtk-qt-engine
[03:52] <genii> psyco: It will try to make your gtk apps use whatever qt theme you have or so
[03:52] <psyco> he got all depressed when I installed FF3 for him because he had to get new addons and there was a deleicious toolbar and a few of his bookmarks were gone.
[03:52] <psyco> I'll look genii.
[03:53] <droach> man freakin lore is bat-shit crazy in tng
[03:53] <kronoman> hello... any idea on how to use a USB 3G modem with Kubuntu?
[03:54] <Agent_bob> !language | droach
[03:55] <droach> oh so that explains why when i said the work hack like two days ago everyone started acting like a bunch of three year olds
[03:55] <droach> language filters how brutal.
[03:56] <psyco> Genii: Turns out I already have gtk-qt-engines
[03:56] <Agent_bob> droach if you need more info check the freenode home page.  there is a code of conduct and all that stuff
[03:56] <psyco> I found an app that may solve my problem though.,
[03:56] <genii> psyco: Then offhand I dunno.
[03:57] <kronoman> any idea if CDs for installing linux are more prone to fail on read? I blame the squashfs system
[03:58] <kronoman> I mean, I have installed linux many times, on many machines, and sorta once in a while I get stuck with a CD install
[03:58] <kronoman> using different CDs, different recorders, different readers, across time
[03:58] <kronoman> with all live cds
[03:58] <droach> nah i install everthing from cd the onetime that one failed the cd rom drive was bad
[03:58] <kronoman> so I have bad luck...
[03:58] <droach> live cds are junk anyway
[03:58] <kronoman> has happened me for years, like a curse
[03:58] <kronoman> with mandrake, with kubuntu, with ubuntu, during years
[03:59] <droach> use network install cds or use alternate install cds
[03:59] <kronoman> happened me last night @ gf house, and I looked like a fool, and let her machine without OS
[03:59] <kronoman> she had ubuntu 7, downloaded kubuntu 8, did md5sum to iso, recorded, restarted, live cd booted
[03:59] <Agent_bob> kronoman if you are burning your own "and we assume you are"  the record speed needs to be set as low as possable, else you may have issues   and yes the squashfs does seems to have something to do with that.
[03:59] <kronoman> formated OS partition, started to install, and exploded at 49 % with read error
[04:00] <genii> kronoman: What make/model is your USB 3G modem?
[04:00] <Agent_bob> kronoman that exact error will happen if you run out of ram too
[04:00] <droach> great you probably have a 50x cd rom drive but your still stuck burning at 2x great
[04:01] <kronoman> the machine has 2 GB RAM
[04:01] <kronoman> should be able to install it
[04:01] <droach> have you tested the ram
[04:01] <kronoman> same thing happened to me last year installing kubuntu on my machine
[04:01] <genii> memtest86
[04:01] <kronoman> and also on a P3 I had some years ago
[04:02] <kronoman> I suspect squashfs can't cope with read errors at all, should be tolerant to a couple of wrong bits
[04:02] <psyco> I still have a P3.
[04:02] <kronoman> or at least include a "ignore file" on the install thingy
[04:02] <Agent_bob> 256m should be enough.   but!  i was only saying that that error is also caused by running out of ram   and thus if you have one machine that keeps doing such things.  you may have "bad ram"
[04:02] <psyco> Its hooked up to my TV for StepMania ^^
[04:02] <kronoman> I mean, when the installed fails, it says read error, and bails out
[04:03] <kronoman> a sensible option would be the cancel / ignore option
[04:03] <kronoman> so to skip the bad file and keep copying
[04:03] <kronoman> at least you have chances of getting a working system if is a single file
[04:03] <kronoman> maybe a single byte
[04:04] <Agent_bob> or not.  maybe it's one byte but it's in /usr/sbin/dpkg  ;/
[04:05] <Agent_bob> s/s//
[04:05] <genii> Yes corrupt dpkg system is not fun
[04:06] <Agent_bob> just think what could happen if the executable "dpkg" had one byte wrong...
[04:06] <genii> kronoman: Maybe use debbootstrap method
[04:06] <psyco> XD
[04:06] <Agent_bob> every package becomes a linux virus
[04:06] <Agent_bob> or bug
[04:06] <genii> Agent_bob: Shush. I'll have nightmares
[04:06] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:07] <kronoman> I would take the chance, is just a family computer
[04:07] <kronoman> not like I'm going to launch it to space or something
[04:07] <psyco> I might.
[04:07] <Agent_bob> noaXess:  more importantly than laynching it into space.  you will set it in your house  ~
[04:08] <Agent_bob> no: that is ^
[04:08] <kronoman> again, to browse the internet, download some emails, maybe read a newspaper,
[04:08] <kronoman> normal user can live with a small byte in some obscure file
[04:08] <kronoman> maybe was the thai language map, maybe just a icon file
[04:08] <Agent_bob> we can have corrupt junk in space.  we have proved that.   but who wants it in their home.
[04:09] <kronoman> mmm, don't come to visit me
[04:09] <psyco> wow, I screwed up my baghira....
[04:10] <Agent_bob> kronoman heh.  but my example  /usr/bin/dpkg   is not an obscure file.  it would affect every file on your system.    even worse.  if it was  /lib/libc6.so   the kernel could print to /dev/sda rather than /dev/stdout    ...
[04:10] <genii> kronoman: So I gather you don't know the make/model of your USB 3G modem, and don't care to know about using debbootstrap then?
[04:10] <kronoman> and again, all that would happen is lose some crappy emails and family photos, no big deal
[04:11] <genii> Try to help someone and they rant on ;)
[04:11] <kronoman> genii: I still don't buy the 3G modem, just checking out if I'm going to be able to use it *if* I buy it
[04:11] <Agent_bob> genii he was typing at the time....    i'll back out and let him alone now.
[04:11] <kronoman> I was checking the cell phone provider and if I sign up for their plan, they will give me a USB modem
[04:12] <kronoman> really, their page is just filled with non tech propaganda about their 3G plan
[04:12] <kronoman> so I guess must be some generic USB 3G modem
[04:13] <genii> Probably.
[04:13] <kronoman> would be cool if I could use it because is way cheaper than my cablemodem, and I could suspend the cablemodem at my other house, farm, etc
[04:13] <kronoman> would save a lot of money
[04:13] <kronoman> just moving around with the 3G modem to every place
[04:13] <Agent_bob> kronoman one thing to look for, do they offer "free software" with the modem.
[04:15] <kronoman> they just say "Modem Claro USB plug & play"
[04:15] <kronoman> the plug & play part scares me... sounds like the winmodem nightmare
[04:15] <kronoman> Claro is the company
[04:16] <Agent_bob> ah the ole "plug and get mad" hardware rears it's ugly head again....
[04:16] <flaccid> plug n pray
[04:18] <kronoman> also, does 3G works as "real" internet? i.e  lets you open ports or use any service besides html (ie bittorrent, irc, games)
[04:19] <genii> 3G is only a connection method.
[04:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[04:19] <genii> Like ethernet cord or wifi
[04:20] <minhaaj> !skype
[04:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> can someone point towards a windows chat or chanel whee i can figure out how to revert everythign to a single bigger ntsf partition wi thout losing any files
[04:20] <genii> CostaRicanQuaker: ##windows
[04:21] <dwidmann> growing partitions should be easy .... it's shrinking them that's dangerous
[04:21] <genii> Yup
[04:22] <Agent_bob> partitions   bah.
[04:22] <kronoman> what I mean is, do you think the provider, that provides internet using 3G will resort to the crappy capping methods, block porting, etc
[04:23] <dwidmann> kronoman: yes, I think they'll resort to being dirty skanks, anything else would be but a veil over their true selves.
[04:24] <kronoman> specially offering this crappy plug and play modems
[04:24] <Agent_bob> dwidmann :)
[04:24] <kronoman> I have like a very huge fear of USB modems
[04:24] <kronoman> USB modems bring me nightmares
[04:25]  * flaccid yawns
[04:25] <Agent_bob> yissue with vlc, seems that anytime i have vlc playing vidio and switch tty's vlc is no longer able to display vidio until reboot.    (dapper on a lappy with ati chips)
[04:25] <dwidmann> kronoman: it doesn't matter what form it comes in, without vendor support they're ALL scary.
[04:25] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: my money's on it being the video driver
[04:26] <Agent_bob> dwidmann vesa ?
[04:26] <dwidmann> Hmm, possible.
[04:26] <flaccid> or the fact that its dapper and vlc version is probably oldish
[04:26] <dwidmann> I'll try it for myself before I say anything though
[04:26] <Agent_bob> well vesa is what i use there.
[04:26] <dwidmann> Then again, there is that dapper factor of it ........ dapper is just plain old
[04:26] <flaccid> unfortunately dapper only gets security updates..
[04:26] <dwidmann> and has old bugs instead of shiny new ones
[04:27] <Agent_bob> flaccid yeah and i have know of three of them actually breaking things...
[04:28] <Agent_bob> anyway,   i was just wondering what y'all thought about the vlc problem.
[04:28] <flaccid> dapper should only really be used if you use canonical commercial support
[04:28] <flaccid> Agent_bob: try other media players like kaffeine as well
[04:29] <genii> Agent_bob: What vlc issue is that?
[04:29] <dwidmann> well, if it's a lot of machines, it might just be too much of a big P.I.T.A. to upgrade ... flaccid
[04:29] <genii> nvm scrolled back
[04:30] <Agent_bob> flaccid i really don't think it's the player,  i'm not an expert in this area mind you.  but i can restart xorg (of course that requires restarting vlc too in this case) and it still only outputs "what looks like a brownish curtan" to vidio.   the sound works fine.
[04:31] <flaccid> well we don't really know what it is, and im assuming you check the xorg log?
[04:31] <flaccid> dwidmann: thats how it goes and what employing sysadmins is for :)
[04:31] <kronoman> any way to unpack a squashfs ignoring all the errors?
[04:32] <kronoman> I mean, that it just skips the byte if cant read?
[04:32] <Agent_bob> yeah xorg is not reporting any error,  nor showing any.   but i will try to rule out vlc by testing other players.
[04:32] <flaccid> cool
[04:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> can one open files contained in the kubuntu partition from windows?
[04:33] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: yes if you install an ext2/3 fs driver
[04:34] <Agent_bob> besides all that.   as to the "you should upgrade" thingy.      i only have one thing to say about that,  "bite me!"    ;|
[04:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> and kubuntu can of course open files from the windows partition right?
[04:34] <flaccid> i never suggested upgrading :)
[04:34] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: correct
[04:34] <dwidmann> that's right Agent_bob, flaccid only recommended not running dapper without commercial support
[04:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i could have one big windows partition for storage and a minimal one for kubuntu? what's the minimum space recquired for kubuntu to run on?
[04:35] <flaccid> i just present the facts and let the user keep their free choice :o
[04:35] <flaccid> !requirements | CostaRicanQuaker yes
[04:35] <Agent_bob> dwidmann ah so i misread that.  it really meant "pay me for help"   :)))
[04:35] <flaccid> i accept money too haha
[04:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> xubuntu looks too simple and i'm a quaker
[04:36] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker lol
[04:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> would you recomend that though? having a minimal partition for kubuntu and a storage partitions on windows?
[04:36] <flaccid> whats a quaker sorry ?
[04:37] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: a lot of people do it that way ie. fat partition for storage
[04:37] <Agent_bob> flaccid religious order
[04:37] <flaccid> fair enough
[04:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> a member of the religious society of friends a religious movement or christian church that started in the 17th century english and is based on five tenets held to be the fundamental message of the gospel: simplicity, integrity, equality, community, peace
[04:37] <Agent_bob> flaccid known for their simple and holsome lifestyle
[04:38] <minhaaj> what app do i need to open .deb packages ?
[04:38] <genii> dpkg
[04:38] <minhaaj> how do i run that ?
[04:38] <genii> eg: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:38] <flaccid> why do you want t open a .deb ? ; ark can do that
[04:39] <minhaaj> shouldnt it run automatically when it detects a .deb package ?
[04:39] <flaccid> minhaaj: what is 'it' and 'it' ?
[04:40] <minhaaj> skype
[04:40] <minhaaj> dkpg should detect .deb when i download it
[04:40] <flaccid> um the only thing skype has to do with debs is that you can install it from one?
[04:40] <minhaaj> and run it
[04:40] <Agent_bob> i hope not
[04:40] <minhaaj> i want to understand this concept
[04:40] <minhaaj> why not ?
[04:40] <flaccid> minhaaj: thats not how it works. if you manually d/l a deb, then you would have to manually install it. just like downloading any file
[04:41] <flaccid> !skype | minhaaj
[04:41] <minhaaj> i tried to find skype in repos
[04:41] <minhaaj> its not there
[04:41] <flaccid> skypes in the repos, you can simply install via Adept Manager
[04:41] <minhaaj> i googled for a sudo command from terminal to dl it but i couldnt
[04:41] <flaccid> minhaaj: try reading the above link :)
[04:41] <minhaaj> whats the name of package
[04:41] <minhaaj> i couldnt find it
[04:41] <flaccid> read!!
[04:41] <flaccid> !info skype
[04:42] <flaccid> its actually in Medibuntu repos
[04:42] <minhaaj> umm
[04:42] <flaccid> ie. skype | 2.0.0.72-0medibuntu1 | http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/non-free Packages
[04:42] <minhaaj> can you use medibuntu packages in hardy ?
[04:43] <Agent_bob> does that need an answer ?
[04:43] <flaccid> minhaaj: yes. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu to enable it. and this is where i got my skype from..
[04:43] <flaccid> seems like some people need multiple answers :o
[04:43] <minhaaj> wow great
[04:43] <Agent_bob> minhaaj you don't seem to grasp the concept of package repositories,  perhaps you should look into that first.
[04:44] <Agent_bob> !repos
[04:44] <minhaaj> installed
[04:44] <flaccid> hooray
[04:45] <minhaaj> ok thanks Agent_bob
[04:47] <minhaaj> wow great resource Agent_bob
[04:48] <minhaaj> still can't find skype
[04:48] <minhaaj> even though medibuntu is installed
[04:49] <flaccid> !enter | minhaaj
[04:49] <flaccid> minhaaj: you need to fetch updates after successfully adding the repos to your sources.list
[04:50] <minhaaj> there are no updates availible
[04:50] <minhaaj> can't see adept notifier
[04:50] <flaccid> minhaaj: thats not watch fetch updates is. it updates the list of packages available to you. once that is done in Adept Manager , you can search for it in Adept and install it
[04:51] <minhaaj> great i ran sudo apt-get update
[04:51] <minhaaj> and nowi have notifier
[04:51] <flaccid> minhaaj: probably best if you actually read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype thats what its there for!
[04:51] <gecko_> hola
[04:51] <gecko_> tengo una consulta
[04:51] <flaccid> !es | gecko_
[04:52] <enterusername> hi im having problems reading and watching dvds its saying its encrypted
[04:52] <enterusername> does libdvdcss need libdvdread?
[04:52] <Agent_bob> !helpersnack | ubottu
[04:52] <genii> Agent_bob: I've been looking into the vlc thing but with no enlightenment.
[04:52] <flaccid> enterusername: you may need libdvdread3
[04:53] <enterusername> oh ok its crapping out on libdvdread3
[04:53] <Agent_bob> genii i can't test other players until i get home.   but i'll bring my lappy to work tomarrow...    i have noticed that issue on several occasions
[04:53] <enterusername> its saying cant pass encryption
[04:53] <flaccid> enterusername: try googling the exact error it gives to find a solution
[04:53] <Agent_bob> genii i'm thinking it's a combonation of ati chip and ....  well ati chip  ;/
[04:54]  * Agent_bob doesn't like ati...
[04:54] <genii> Agent_bob: Maybe.
[04:54] <flaccid> likely ATI , agreed there..
[04:54] <flaccid> well maybe not likely, but a large possibility
[04:55] <genii> Well, time for sleep :)
[04:56] <Agent_bob> anyway my thought is that somehow the ati chip is not being cleared of some buffer or something,   i'm not a techy!    anyway  the only way to reset the error is a hard reset of the bios   i.e. power off/on cycle    so i'm thinking it's the vidio chip.
[04:57] <flaccid> Agent_bob: and you see this happens with vesa driver? have you tried other drivers?
[04:57] <Agent_bob> now.  it may not affect other players,   i'll have to do more testing.
[04:57] <Agent_bob> and no.  only vesa
[04:57] <minhaaj> flaccid:  how does the bug removal process work at canonical ? bug reports are generated and do they get fixed right away, or you have to wait for next release ?
[04:57] <Agent_bob> dapper doesn't have a generic ati driver that will work with that chip
[04:58] <flaccid> minhaaj: they get fixed when someone fixes them and it can be released in next release, via and update and usually in proposed updates first
[04:59] <flaccid> Agent_bob: there is no "ati" or "radeon" in dapper?
[04:59] <Agent_bob> minhaaj important bugs get a lot of attention while some bugs may not be fixed for a while...
[04:59] <minhaaj> actually i searched for a bug that has almost 52 variants
[04:59] <minhaaj> sun java6 plugin can't be removed
[04:59] <kronoman> any easy way to create a pendrive with kubuntu on it?
[04:59] <minhaaj> says package commiting failed
[05:00] <Agent_bob> flaccid there is an   xserver-xorg-driver-ati   but it doesn't work as well as the  xserver-xorg-driver-vesa
[05:00] <minhaaj> bugged was confirmed by status
[05:00] <flaccid> !usb | kronoman
[05:00] <kronoman> guess it would be faster to install from pendrive than from CD
[05:00] <minhaaj> and i was wondering if it has been fixed or  not
[05:00] <flaccid> Agent_bob: restricted perhaps can work with your gpu? http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:00] <kronoman> thanks flaccid
[05:00] <minhaaj> wth!! still no skype in adept
[05:01] <flaccid> minhaaj: did you follow the instructions ?
[05:01] <Agent_bob> restricted  yuch.   i hate to taint my kernel/system.
[05:01] <minhaaj> yep
[05:01] <Agent_bob> but yeah
[05:01] <minhaaj> i just updated everything
[05:01] <minhaaj> it was updating medibuntu
[05:01] <flaccid> minhaaj: did you add the repos to sources.list as per the instructions?
[05:01] <minhaaj> i can see medibuntu in third party software list as checked in adept
[05:02] <minhaaj> i updated it after that
[05:02] <flaccid> minhaaj: so if you fetch updates, then skype should be searchable in adept. you can also install by sudo apt-get install skype
[05:02] <minhaaj> and you are telling this NOW ?
[05:03] <minhaaj> :)
[05:03] <minhaaj> !helpersnack | flaccid
[05:03] <flaccid> minhaaj: errr, please read ,  i've shown you this several times already OK.
[05:04] <Agent_bob> flaccid what's the differance in "xserver-xorg-video-ati" and "xserver-xorg-driver-ati" ?
[05:04] <minhaaj> yea but it didnt work. the same command BEFORE i added medibuntu
[05:04] <flaccid> if it didnt work then you are most likely doing something yourself
[05:04] <minhaaj> heheh
[05:04]  * minhaaj hugs flaccid
[05:04] <flaccid> still 'doesn't work' tells us nothing to be able to help you..
[05:05] <minhaaj> dude i know windows refugees like me can be pest for helpers like you
[05:05] <minhaaj> its not yet 15 days since i've switched over.
[05:05] <flaccid> what i mean is the problem is likely you if it doesn't work..
[05:05] <minhaaj> cut me some slack :)
[05:05] <Agent_bob> slack ?
[05:05] <flaccid> there is no problem minhaaj
[05:05] <minhaaj> thanks :)
[05:06] <minhaaj> You guys are the only thing that makes difference in linux
[05:06] <Agent_bob> /join #slakware   slack ?
[05:06] <minhaaj> i wonder if someone ever thank you :)
[05:06] <flaccid> Agent_bob: its just slang for gimme a break heh
[05:06] <minhaaj> Agent_bob:  figure of speech
[05:06] <flaccid> minhaaj: i appreciant your comments, they are heartening
[05:07] <minhaaj> this means umm .. be nice to me hehe
[05:07] <minhaaj> :)
[05:07] <Agent_bob> rms who ?
[05:07] <flaccid> hahaa
[05:07] <minhaaj> where are you from Agent_bob  ?
[05:07] <Agent_bob> figured if you couldn't tell that the first one was a joke...   ;/
[05:07] <minhaaj> heh
[05:08]  * Agent_bob </shrugs>
[05:08] <minhaaj> you got me there.
[05:08] <minhaaj> thought #slackware is ACTUALLY some help channel
[05:08] <minhaaj> heh
[05:08] <flaccid> slackware is a linux distro basically
[05:08] <minhaaj> ahh
[05:08] <Agent_bob> yes it's the official support for that distroubtion of linux
[05:08] <minhaaj> see you learn each day from flaccid  the wiz
[05:09] <minhaaj> and Agent_bob  ofcourse.
[05:09] <Agent_bob> you can /join #fedora    or  /join #debian
[05:09] <Agent_bob> but this is the place for ubuntu + kde support.
[05:10] <Agent_bob> or is it #fedora-core   i haven't actually been there.
[05:10]  * flaccid takes some natural stuff for headache
[05:10] <Agent_bob> water ?
[05:10] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:11] <flaccid> yeah water + an array of vitamins as im out of the real drugs heh. anyway i'll shoosh until i see another kubuntu prob
[05:11] <minhaaj> is that true that ubuntu guys are also thinking about incorporating kde in next release ?
[05:11] <minhaaj> vitamins ? are you sick or weak ?
[05:11] <Agent_bob> minhaaj there is also ##linux and ##linuxhelp which are unofficial linux support channels...
[05:11] <flaccid> probably all of the above lol
[05:12] <minhaaj> heh
[05:12] <minhaaj> ok skype done
[05:12] <minhaaj> thanks
[05:12] <flaccid> i drank about 2 litres of wine last night helping here. anyway lets keep on topic if talking at all. we can talk about my bad health in #kubuntu-offtopic if you like
[05:12] <flaccid> sweet minhaaj np
[05:13] <minhaaj> heh ok
[05:13] <Agent_bob> flaccid   what's the differance in "xserver-xorg-video-ati" and "xserver-xorg-driver-ati" ?
[05:13] <flaccid> Agent_bob: lets have a look on the packages site i guess
[05:14] <flaccid> Agent_bob: only the second one exists in dapper. maybe they changed the pkg name in future releases
[05:14] <Agent_bob> apt doesn't see any  xserver-xorg-video-ati    but does see  xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[05:15] <Agent_bob> maybe.
[05:15] <flaccid> yeah i checked the site. only http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/xserver-xorg-driver-ati is up there like your apt
[05:15] <dwidmann> curiosity question, if one were to download all of the ubuntu repository (main,restricted,universe,multiverse) for one architecture (say, for sake of example, 386), just how much space would it take?
[05:15] <minhaaj> dude its almost 30000 packages
[05:16] <Agent_bob> 20k
[05:16] <minhaaj> k ?
[05:16] <dwidmann> I didn't ask for # of packages, I already knew that, I asked how much space the packages would take up.
[05:16] <minhaaj> 20 mb ?
[05:16] <Agent_bob> ummm about 4.5 dvd's full
[05:16] <flaccid> that question is almost more like, how much space do i need on my server for a mirror. someone can probably answer that..
[05:16] <Agent_bob> no 20k packages
[05:16] <minhaaj> oh ok
[05:17] <minhaaj> !compiz
[05:17] <dwidmann> I've got an extra few repos turned on (ppa for kde4, kdenightly), but I've got nearly 25k :)
[05:18] <Agent_bob> yeah i was only counting ubuntu repos
[05:18] <dwidmann> s/I've got/I have availble/
[05:18] <dwidmann> I'm not sure how much of that is ppa, I wouldn't think it'd be that much but I guess it could be
[05:18] <minhaaj> you dont need it anyways dwidmann
[05:19] <minhaaj> you won't be using em all, in this life atleast
[05:19] <dwidmann> minhaaj: it was just a curiosity question;
[05:19] <flaccid> i think it killed the cat :
[05:19] <softnet> hola
[05:19] <flaccid> !es | softnet
[05:19] <minhaaj> ok
[05:19] <dwidmann> flaccid: it deeeeeed it deeeeeed
[05:20] <Agent_bob> tac `which cat` > 'dead cat'
[05:20] <flaccid> lol
[05:21] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:21] <Agent_bob> bash: ./dead cat: cannot execute binary file
[05:23]  * Agent_bob is now wondering what to do with this backwards binary file in his $HOME  ....
[05:24] <Agent_bob> just out of curiosity of course
[05:25] <holycow> Agent_bob ... meet agent_orange
[05:25] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:25] <holycow> agent_orange ... meet Agent_bob
[05:25] <holycow> lol
[05:25] <holycow> greatnick!
[05:27] <Agent_bob> i have to remove that file.   if i leave it there, i'll mess around and forget it,  then be like "why is this 'dead cat' in my $HOME ???"   and get all balistic and sh**
[05:27] <Agent_bob> it might cause me to reinstall the syatem....
[05:28] <Agent_bob> and i could break something trying to reload onto a partitionless disk,
[05:28] <Agent_bob> and it could cost the boss a new computer....
[05:28]  * Agent_bob leaves the file.
[05:35] <intelikey> interesting   did you know that you can't    tac `which cat` > one ;tac one > cat   #  and expect ./cat to function propperly...  i didn't know that binary files would get hosed by that.
[05:36] <minhaaj> !ati
[05:37] <intelikey> i guess i just assumed that it would work on a binary like it would on ascii text
[05:38] <intelikey> what's port 53 ?   dns ?
[05:38] <mr---t-> yes
[05:42] <intelikey> what's the little round 7 pin plug "thingy" ?
[05:43] <intelikey> laptop has an odd port i'm not familear with.    about ps2 size but looks more like the old old old vidio ports
[05:43] <mr---t-> on what?
[05:44] <mr---t-> probably a mouse port
[05:44] <intelikey> ;/   it's not ps2  i recognize them.
[05:45]  * intelikey tries to plug a usb mouse in and says "see it's not that"     :)))
[05:45] <mr---t-> its bigger than that?
[05:45] <intelikey> maybe just a little.
[05:45] <intelikey> and has more pin holes
[05:46] <mr---t-> probably s_video then
[05:47] <intelikey> ah probably.   i'll look into that.
[05:47] <intelikey> and wonder why it would need three vidio out's
[05:48] <mr---t-> its not about need but about features
[05:48] <mr---t-> google s-video
[05:49] <mot_> what is a good pc emulator for kubuntu?
[05:49] <intelikey> feature ?   you mean those unexpected behaviours of software that the writers wont admit to being a bug ?
[05:49] <mot_> as in, i want to play the DOS game simfarm
[05:49] <mot_> dosbox seems to be a POS...i want a good gui-backend
[05:49] <mot_> any suggestions?
[05:49] <intelikey> qemu might.
[05:49] <intelikey> vmware vbox
[05:49] <intelikey> !vmware
[05:50] <mot_> are you talking to me?
[05:50] <intelikey> !vbox
[05:50] <intelikey> !qemu
[05:50] <mot_> er
[05:50] <mot_> i know what vbox is and vmare
[05:50] <mot_> i don't want to have to run a host OS on top of linux to play a 15-year old game
[05:50] <intelikey> see the last listing
[05:50] <mot_> surely there's a native emulator.
[05:51] <intelikey> run a host os ?   you call dos a host os ?
[05:51] <helpy> !compiz
[05:51] <intelikey> never mind.
[05:52] <mot_> sorry, i meant guest os
[05:52] <intelikey> mot_ sujestion.    konsole command: apt-cache search emulator | less
[05:52] <intelikey> mot_  apt-cache search emulat | less
[05:53] <intelikey> wider scope
[05:54] <intelikey> "here's ya a fishing pole"  ^  cheeper on me than buying your fish dinner.  :)
[05:56] <da> test
[05:56] <intelikey> pong
[05:56] <helpy> !xgl
[06:01] <helpy> i can't have everything installed ccsm, compiz, dependencies but its not working
[06:01] <helpy> any idea whats wrong ?
[06:04] <robotgeek> helpy: okay, second
[06:04] <robotgeek> helpy: try this script, http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check and see if it passes
[06:32] <softnet> hola
[06:33] <softnet> alguien sabe si italic lo puedo instalar el cliente en windows
[06:33] <robotgeek> !es
[06:37] <numan> i am having problem with display?
[06:37] <numan> i just see kubuntu loading after that no display
[06:37] <numan> no display at login screen
[06:37] <numan> i get out of range at login screen?
[06:38] <numan> anybody help plz
[06:38] <josh_> how do i set up dual monitors in ubuntu 8.04
[06:40] <numan> nobody reply here?
[06:41] <robotgeek> josh_: do you have nvidia?
[06:42] <robotgeek> josh_: what video card do you have?
[06:43] <robotgeek> !nvidia
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> anyone have a link to an all encompassing ubuntu tutorial
[06:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> until i get my cds from canonical weeks from now
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> kubuntu*
[06:46] <robotgeek> CostaRicanQuaker: hmm, i would go through the help site for different things you can do
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> isn't there like a "kubuntu for dummies"
[06:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> btw, can i write it and be rich without it being contradictory to the whole point of kubuntu?
[06:47] <robotgeek> CostaRicanQuaker: sadly, the topic based help is the closest thing we have
[06:49] <flaccid> lol im writing such a book atm
[06:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: can you ship me a free copy?
[06:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> Juan Sebastian Ortiz Apartado 120-1000 San Jose, Costa Rica
[06:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> no unabomber please
[06:54] <flaccid> its not scheduled for release for at least a year and it won't be free
[06:56] <robotgeek> numan: are you running hardy
[06:56] <numan> yes robotgeek
[06:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: where are you located?
[06:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how much for a copy?
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm sure i can save 25 bucks a year from now
[06:57] <jeisma> how do i get quicktime to work on kubuntu?
[06:57] <jeisma> what do i have to download?
[06:57] <numan> robotgeek: u there?
[06:59] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: im in australia and its not signed yet so i can't say
[07:00] <robotgeek> numan: sorry was afk
[07:01] <numan> can you help me for my problem?
[07:01] <numan> i cant get envyng-core through apt-get install
[07:02] <robotgeek> numan: what error does it give you?
[07:08] <numan> it says cant fetch from archive.ubuntu.com............... actually i modofied sources list maybe that is creating problem
[07:10] <numan> robotgeek: ??
[07:12] <robotgeek> numan: probably
[07:12] <numan> so what else you can suggest?
[07:13] <robotgeek> numan: i can post my /etc/apt/sources.list for you
[07:14] <robotgeek> numan: http://pastebin.com/d48af921d
[07:15] <numan> so i also post mine for your reference
[07:16] <helpy> what was the sudo command to get compiz fusion icon ?
[07:16] <numan> but i am not on the computer which have this problem
[07:16] <numan> how to get this large file there
[07:17] <robotgeek> numan: just make sure your universe repository is enabled.
[07:17] <numan> ok
[07:17] <robotgeek> helpy: the link?
[07:17] <flaccid> helpy: you can install it with adept or if you do want terminal then sudo apt-get install fusion-icon after enabling the required repos
[07:18]  * helpy kudos flaccid
[07:18] <flaccid> cheers!
[07:21] <helpy> flaccid my compiz is not working
[07:21] <helpy> i have everything ccsm, compiz, and icon
[07:21] <helpy> could be ati related issue ?
[07:21] <helpy> !ati
[07:21] <flaccid> why is it not working, please explain
[07:22] <helpy> thats what i want to know.
[07:22] <helpy> i have everything installed
[07:22] <helpy> compiz icon says compiz is running
[07:22] <helpy> but i dont get effects
[07:22] <flaccid> !enter | helpy
[07:22] <helpy> i have configured it from effects manager and desktop effects but its not working
[07:22] <flaccid> helpy: goto konsole and run compiz --replace and pastebin the output
[07:22] <helpy> one sec
[07:23] <helpy> xgl not present
[07:24] <flaccid> i said pastebin and xgl does not need to be present :)
[07:25] <flaccid> or does it just sit on that and go no further?
[07:25] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22523/
[07:26] <flaccid> helpy: which driver are you using in xorg.conf?
[07:26] <helpy> umm no idea
[07:26] <helpy> its ati radeon x1400
[07:26] <flaccid> check
[07:27] <helpy> how ??
[07:28] <flaccid> helpy:  kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look under section device for Driver
[07:29] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22524/
[07:30] <helpy> i have no idea. see for yourself
[07:30] <helpy> its xorg.conf in etc
[07:30] <flaccid> ok so you are using the open source ati driver. you need to use either radeon or fglrx iirc
[07:30] <helpy> !fglrx
[07:30] <flaccid> helpy: are you on hardy?
[07:30] <helpy> yep
[07:30] <flaccid> helpy: goto kdesudo jockey-kde and let me know what it says
[07:32] <helpy> Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:32] <helpy> WARNING: /sys/module/fglrx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind fglrx driver
[07:32] <numan> flaccid help me also
[07:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: how can i pay you for the book? can i send a book by the mail with the money?
[07:33] <numan> i cant apt-get update
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'ven't got a credit card
[07:33] <helpy> numan pastebin the error
[07:34] <numan> it says the method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found
[07:34] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: its not finished, probably not worth talking about at this stage
[07:34] <numan> helpy: ?
[07:34] <helpy> read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90441.html
[07:35] <helpy> seems like you've broken adept
[07:35] <flaccid> helpy: um ok does it have options to enable the restricted driver in the gui of Hardware Drivers Manager?
[07:35] <helpy> yea it popped up when i did that jockey thing
[07:35] <helpy> let me try again
[07:36] <flaccid> helpy: two things you need to do 1. is try this driver by enabling it in jockey then rebooting and also before rebooting make sure you have done the compiz fusion requirements as per the wiki
[07:36] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | helpy
[07:36] <helpy> i have checked it
[07:36] <helpy> let me reboot
[07:36] <flaccid> ok
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: well i hope when it's released, you'll still be aroudn ehre and i will be able to buy it and set all my community to use it and have me maintain it, after CAFTA and its ridiculous copryright laws opensource is the wayto go
[07:38] <numan> how to fix this broken adept?
[07:38] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: yeah me too. i offered it to the community over a year ago and they were not interested so im going my own way :)
[07:39] <flaccid> cafta ?
[07:39] <flaccid> !adepfix | numan
[07:39] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: Central american free trade agreement
[07:41] <giadegama> buongiorno a tutti
[07:41] <flaccid> ah fair enough
[07:41] <Commodore512> I am Commodore256 and I am here to ask a question.
[07:42] <helpy> ok done flaccid
[07:42] <numan> after typing that command i cant get anythong
[07:42] <Commodore512> Is a man not entitled to the to a Operating System that works?
[07:42] <helpy> !helpersnack | flaccid
[07:42] <flaccid> !doesntwork | numan
[07:42] <flaccid> Commodore512: technically, no
[07:42] <Commodore512> No, says Microsoft. Windows comes bundled in most computers, but Windows is loaded with Viruses.
[07:42] <Commodore512> No, says Apple. Our Macs are too expensive.
[07:42] <Commodore512> No, says Xerox. I'm sorry, we don't make Operating systems anymore.
[07:42] <flaccid> Commodore512: this is the kubuntu support channel not OSdiscuss
[07:43] <flaccid> helpy: so you are using fglrx now i assume?
[07:43] <Commodore512> ok
[07:43] <numan> flaccid
[07:44] <helpy> i dont know but compiz is full blown
[07:44] <helpy> heh
[07:44] <numan> i am here for more than a hour but my problem is not solved
[07:44] <numan> helpy: plz help
[07:44] <flaccid> numan: thats because we don't know what the problem is specifically
[07:44] <helpy> numan what is your basic problem ?
[07:45] <helpy> help flaccid understand
[07:45] <flaccid> helpy: compiz works too now ?
[07:45] <helpy> yep
[07:45] <numan> i cant get display
[07:45] <flaccid> cool thanks for the snack then
[07:45] <flaccid> display of what exactly
[07:46] <numan> i have nvidia card but my display screen goes black after kubuntu screen finished loading.
[07:46] <flaccid> numan: ah ok, did you upgrade kernel recently at all?
[07:47] <numan> yes i upgraded to hardy heron from gutsy gibbon
[07:47] <flaccid> numan: thats the problem most likely. can you goto a tty via ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[07:47] <numan> i cant get into login screen
[07:47] <helpy> hehe first crash
[07:47] <helpy> compiz is so buggy
[07:48] <flaccid> numan: yeah but you should be able to get to a terminal with the above keyboard shortcut
[07:48] <numan> because i never get through login screen
[07:48] <numan> yes i tried it but failed
[07:48] <flaccid> failed, what happens?
[07:48] <numan> but i am at the terminal through recovery mode
[07:49] <numan> failed means nothing comes up even i press the keys several times
[07:49] <flaccid> numan: ok then. do a sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the section device and change driver to Driver "vesa"
[07:49] <numan> ok
[07:50] <flaccid> we basically want to get it to use the vesa driver to hopefully get back into kde then change it to restricted again via Hardware Drivers Manager . the nvidia kernel driver is kernel dependant so if you upgrade the kernel it needs to be rebuilt
[07:53] <numan> i think the problem is here with device configured wrongly
[07:54] <flaccid> ok i'll leave it to you then :)
[07:54] <numan> it says Setion "Device" identifier "configured video device"
[07:54] <numan> endsection
[07:56] <flaccid> numan: thats weird. can you please pastebin the whole thing for me to check?
[07:57] <numan> ok i am typing
[07:58] <flaccid> evening Mr. Parsnip
[07:59] <flaccid> or ciao rather
[08:02] <numan> here is the paste--->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22527/
[08:03] <flaccid> numan: that kind of looks ok. can you please run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then repaste to check ?
[08:04] <numan> ok i try
[08:11] <numan> flaccid: thanks for your help i GTG maybe try later
[08:11] <flaccid> numan: no worries. if its not your xorg then we have to look at what it could be instead.. but im around as always
[08:13] <ik_> arg...
[08:14] <ik_> stupid ati cards >.< lol
[08:14] <ik_> i have a question
[08:14] <ik_> i have a ati HD2300 in my laptop
[08:15] <ik_> and everytime i try install kubuntu, it works for 2 boots, and then stops.
[08:15] <ik_> then my screen won't go on again.
[08:16] <ik_> does anyone knows what good driver i have to install?
[08:17] <ik_> i think it has something to do with the latest kernel.
[08:17] <flaccid> ik_: let me see if i can do some research on that
[08:18] <ik_> ok, he flaccid! (long time no see :-3)
[08:18] <flaccid> yeah
[08:19] <flaccid> ik_: which driver are you using atm?
[08:20] <ik_> default vesa driver
[08:20] <ik_> i just reinstalled (again>.<)
[08:20] <flaccid> ok this is a pretty new card right?
[08:20] <flaccid> im still confused about why lscpci reports it as different gpu
[08:20] <ik_> yeah, like 6 months max
[08:20] <flaccid> or is HD* not a GPU ?
[08:21] <ik_> it should be, i guess.
[08:21] <ik_> like my brother just bought a new HD3870
[08:21] <ik_> (that thing is just a monster btw :-O)
[08:22] <flaccid> um lets have a look on the ati site
[08:22] <flaccid> in terms of google there is hardly anything on your card
[08:22] <ik_> i dled that driver, the 3D part doesnt work, and it stops working completely after 2 boots.
[08:23] <ik_> well, technically it is one of the  "HD2400 series" cards
[08:23] <flaccid> which driver?
[08:23] <ik_> in windows it's regocnised by default as a "HD2400 series"
[08:24] <flaccid> so now it has 3 names, dang
[08:24] <ik_> lol
[08:24] <ik_> yeah, i guess so ^^
[08:24] <ik_> in windows it works fine though
[08:24] <flaccid> this is pci-x or notebook? yeah this isn't windows :)
[08:25] <ik_> with both the HD2300 aswell as the 2400 drivers. yes, it's a PCI-X 16x 2.0 notebook.
[08:25] <ik_> it even has optional place for some kind of odd readyboost flash chip >.<
[08:26] <flaccid> ik_: so this guy? http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonhd2300/index.html
[08:26] <ik_> jep
[08:26] <ik_> one sec, ill lookup my laptop
[08:26] <flaccid> ok that would help - the make and model of n/b
[08:26] <ik_> http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/home/products/notebooks/amilo_pi_2530.html
[08:27] <ik_> but i bought it a while ago, back then it was expensive and only got halve the amount of HDD space >.<
[08:29] <flaccid> ik_: what was your lspci | grep VGA ?
[08:30] <ik_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] (rev ce)
[08:30] <ik_> (remember, i just reinstalled)
[08:30] <flaccid> well that should be accurate whenever ran..
[08:31] <flaccid> ik_: problem seems to be ATI, there doesn't appear to be a linux driver as per http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[08:31] <ik_> well, then we got a disagreement on windhoos. lol
[08:32] <ik_> there is
[08:32] <ik_> but its called the 2400HD
[08:32] <ik_> ow, and it doesnt work well ^^
[08:32] <ik_> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[08:32] <flaccid> hmmm well HD2300 or X2100 is not listed for windows either
[08:33] <ik_> i love fujitsu's laptop building style ^^
[08:33] <Sarasvati> Anyone here knows anything about wacom tablets?
[08:34] <ik_> what's the problem sarasvati?
[08:34] <flaccid> ik_: that link doesn't specify support scope
[08:34] <ik_> ?
[08:34] <ik_> whats support scope >.<
[08:35] <flaccid> what it supports
[08:35] <ik_> (must look like a enormous noob now ^^)
[08:35] <flaccid> ik_: but according to http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#2 yours should be
[08:36] <flaccid> ik_: this is hardy?
[08:36] <ik_> jep
[08:36] <ik_> this is the first distro that actually detects my card @.@
[08:37] <flaccid> ik_: ok we need to work together. can you please run kdesudo jockey-kde and pastebin the output of it from konsole and show me a screenshot when it loads?
[08:37] <ik_> hmm.
[08:37] <ik_> one sec..
[08:38] <ocs> hi. i have some problems with my graphic card (or with my monitor): the screen refreshing is slow (i.e: when I scroll or move windows)
[08:38] <fauzan> hello all
[08:38] <ik_> sup
[08:38] <flaccid> ocs: run kdesudo jockey-kde (if you are on hardy) and try the restricted driver
[08:39] <ik_> wut? lol
[08:39] <ik_> its activated already 0.o
[08:39] <flaccid> ik_: i thought you said you were using vesa or something?
[08:40] <ik_> thats what i thought >.<
[08:40] <ik_> because it did the last 8 installs 0.o
[08:41] <ocs> flaccid: when i launch it i don't see any list of drivers inside it
[08:41] <ik_> Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[08:41] <ik_> 	Driver		"vesa"
[08:41] <flaccid> ik_: this is the situation. disable it in jockey then enable it, then reboot, see if that works, if it doesn't then try the driver from the site again and if that doesn't work then the problem is obviously ATI..
[08:41] <flaccid> ocs: what is your lspci | grep VGA from konsole ?
[08:42] <ik_> if i dont come back in a hour you know that i had to reinstall ^^
[08:42] <flaccid> ik_: clearly the support for this gpu etc. is pathetic.
[08:42] <ocs> flaccid:  03:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
[08:43] <flaccid> ocs: run kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if has a Driver under section device and let me me know
[08:43] <ocs> flaccid: the driver is active
[08:43] <ocs> i've already checked
[08:43] <ik_> ehm..
[08:43] <flaccid> ocs: thats not what i asked. i want to know what driver is being used
[08:44] <ik_> flaccid: the HW manager tells me that if i disable this driver there's no alternative driver available
[08:44] <ocs> flaccid: Driver		"ati"
[08:44] <flaccid> ocs: because rage is legacy and not supported in linux, this is the best you can do.
[08:45] <ocs> flaccid: so i have to change the graphic card ?
[08:46] <flaccid> ocs: up to you
[08:46] <ocs> ?
[08:46] <flaccid> ocs: that is your choice if you want to buy a new video card. it will be a good choice however
[08:47] <ocs> flaccid: are you sure of what are you telling?
[08:47] <ik_> ocs: dont try another ati though, lol
[08:47] <ocs> flaccid: there's a problem with acceleration
[08:47] <flaccid> ocs: it isnt supported
[08:48] <ocs> flaccid: ok, but probably there are proprietary drivers
[08:48] <flaccid> ocs: not for linux for your legacy card: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[08:49] <ik_> eh flaccid, little problem, you sure i must do this?
[08:49] <ik_> ATI Fire GL
[08:49] <ik_> This driver is necessary to support the hardware, there is no free/open alternative.
[08:49] <ik_> If this driver is not enabled, the hardware will not function.
[08:50] <ocs> flaccid: i see... thanks
[08:50] <flaccid> ik_: don't know. why not give it a try :)
[08:50] <flaccid> np
[08:51] <ik_> flaccid: if i dont come back in a hour, you know it went wrong.. lol
[08:51] <flaccid> ik_: you didn't tell me what is asking you to do that heh
[08:51] <brent> hey is there a amsn server?
[08:52] <ik_> flaccid: youre the pro, if it didnt work its no big problem, im willing to try whatever is needed to get this thing working :_3
[08:52] <flaccid> lol im just another unfortunate ati user. let me know you are go ;)
[08:52] <ik_> k
[08:53] <brent> can someone tell how i can get help with amsn?
[08:54] <flaccid> brent: #amsn
[08:55] <TeslaTony> Ive don two kernel updates since installing my system, and when grub comes up during boot, it still shows both of the old kernels on top of my XP and current system. How do I remove those entries?
[08:56] <flaccid> TeslaTony: kgrubeditor or editing /boot/grub/menu.list manually
[08:56] <milaks> Hi. Can I upgrade Ubuntu 7.04 to Kubuntu 8.04 directly, from CD (kubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386)?
[08:57] <flaccid> i mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:57] <ocs> no, flaccid, you are wrong. I remember that with suse and the same graphic card i didn't have this problem
[08:57] <flaccid> milaks: don't think so as they are image-based
[08:57] <flaccid> ocs: that doesn't make me wrong at all.
[08:58] <ivan10232006> hello
[08:59] <ocs> flaccid: i have to resolve this problem. and there's a better solution than replacing the graphic card
[08:59] <flaccid> maybe there should be an ##assumptions channel :)
[08:59] <flaccid> ocs: good luck
[08:59] <milaks> flaccid,no flac what I mean is, if I have working ubuntu-7.04 linux (installed), and image of kubuntu-8.04-alternate, can I mount that image on /media/cdrom for example and call for cdromupgrade to upgrade frmo 7.04 ubuntu to 8.04?
[08:59] <TeslaTony> flaccid: Thanks. Iḿ assuming I just delete the entries?
[08:59] <flaccid> milaks: not that i know of because the cd doesn't have packages. as i said iirc its an image-based install
[08:59] <flaccid> TeslaTony: yeah
[09:01] <milaks> flaccid, sorry I dont understand you, please see this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[09:01] <flaccid> milaks: note how that page, says alternate CD.
[09:01] <milaks> flaccid, do you mean I must upgrade versions in order, that is first upgrade to 7.10 (or whatever is next to 7.04) and then try to upgrade to 8.04?
[09:01] <flaccid> oh my apologies you said
[09:02] <milaks> flaccid,yes I'm downloading kubuntu alternate CD
[09:02] <milaks> flaccid,image*
[09:02] <flaccid> milaks: in theory you can upgrade from anything
[09:02] <flaccid> i've done dapper to hardy even though we don't support it here
[09:02] <milaks> flaccid,it's ok, so can I upgrade it directly frmo 7.04 to 8.04 or must I first upgrade to 7.10?
[09:03] <flaccid> milaks: you can do directly
[09:03] <milaks> flaccid,ok and last question, sorry
[09:03] <flaccid> hey my bad i misread you milaks
[09:03] <milaks> flaccid,it doesnt matter that installed version is ubuntu (not kubuntu) and I'm tryaing to upgrade to kubuntu?
[09:03] <flaccid> milaks: correct
[09:04] <flaccid> they use the same repos
[09:04] <milaks> flaccid,thanks a lot, I will continue with download of kubuntu-alternate
[09:04] <flaccid> sorry for the confusion and good luck milaks
[09:05] <milaks> flaccid,my cd/dvd burner isnt working and I have 7.04 on CD from before, so I want to install it again, and then frmo downloaded 8.04 image upgrade it to it...
[09:05] <milaks> flaccid,no problem
[09:07] <flaccid> hmm not a bad technique i guess if you don't have the bandwidth/data
[09:09] <dwidmann> should work, but it'll be a bit time consuming eh?
[09:12] <flaccid> guess so
[09:13] <khajx> Hey.. i want to install 8.04, but now i loaded the Desktop CD , and theres no wireless card detected, i was googling it, and understood that theres a problem with the new driver with my wireless card Intel 3945ABG .. someone knows if theres a Fix for it?
[09:13] <flaccid> !wireless | khajx there is a guide for you linked here
[09:16] <khajx> i dont see how is that helpful
[09:17] <flaccid> i guess because you didn't read khajx. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/iwlwifi_Intel_3945_4965/gutsy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29
[09:17] <flaccid> i've had enough for now cyas
[09:21] <dwidmann> khajx: hmm, I've never, ever had any problems with 3945abg ... maybe I'm just lucky
[09:25] <ik_> flaccid: i guess it worked ^^
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> does anyone use webmin?
[09:39] <kumamoto> somewhat
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> kumamoto: is there a thing for it for ktorrent at all?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> or any torrent client
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> to manage that
[09:41] <kumamoto> nope
[09:41] <kumamoto> not that I know of
[09:41] <kumamoto> unless you check their site for torrent plugins
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> bah
[09:41] <kumamoto> and see if that is in your repos
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> yeah thats what im after so I only need 1 port open rather than one for webmin and one for ktorrent web management
[09:43] <kumamoto> I would think webmin would require you to open the torrents port for it to work properly just like it does for http, dns or postfix
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> kumamoto: torrents flow fine, id just like to see their status / add new / remove torrents via webmin
[09:47] <lawi> kubuntu kde4 dvd
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !kde4 | lawi
[09:58] <lawi> thanks
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> np bro
[09:59] <kumamoto> you just want to monitor torrent through webmin huh?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> yeah and start new downloads etc, much like the web interface of ktorrent
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> could I add a lint to webmin to link to the local service then disaplay the result via webmin??
[10:05] <ik_> hey actionparsnip
[10:06] <ik_> you could run uTorrent thruogh wine
[10:06] <ik_> it has a builtin webserver
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ik_: i can do it through ktorrent already
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> but I would love to do it all through webmin
[10:06] <ik_> ow, ok, in that case i didnt say anything ^^
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> so I dont have to open 2 ports
[10:07] <ik_> ok
[10:07] <ik_> yeah.
[10:07] <flaccid> !info rtorrent
[10:07] <flaccid> !info torrentflux
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> im thinking I might have webmin read the local port and display the results to the viewer
[10:07] <flaccid> get rid of webmin :p
[10:07] <ik_> ey flaccid
[10:08] <flaccid> hi
[10:08] <ik_> i did what you said, now what did i gain with it? :-3
[10:08] <ik_> it booted fine..
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: webmin is fun, the rig is due to be headless so I can still look after it
[10:08] <flaccid> ik_: remind me you did sorry
[10:08] <ik_> i think it's a problem with the new kernel (2.6.24-19)
[10:08] <kakoonia> Hey.. whats the command for gui nvidia-settings?
[10:08] <ik_> flaccid: np
[10:08] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: webmin is wrong heh
[10:09] <flaccid> ik_: feel free to submit a bug then
[10:09] <ik_> im currently running the old kernel (2.6.24-16)
[10:09] <ik_> and it works fine
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: might just do that :)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: well more a request for functionality
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> suprised its not already in
[10:09] <ik_> it might be possible it's another app, but ill try it out now, im gonna do a full upgrade
[10:10] <flaccid> what works fine sorry?
[10:10] <kakoonia> whats the command for gui nvidia-settings?
[10:10] <ik_> the old kernel
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> kakoonia: i believe its nvidia-settings
[10:11] <flaccid> meh
[10:11] <ik_> kakoonia: try to typ nvidia and press tab. (i guess ^^)
[10:11] <kakoonia> it doesnt work.. it worked when i used ubuntu, but on kubuntu, it doesnt exist, and i installed the driver..
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> you need to install it seperately now
[10:11] <ik_> ok, weird.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> it got split for some bizarre reason
[10:12] <kakoonia> tried it.. it gives only nvidia-, so i tried nvidia xconfig, but its not what i was looking for.
[10:12] <kakoonia> ohh
[10:14] <kakoonia> ActionParsnip: well thanks,i guess it was realy apart now.. wierd though.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> indeed but its how it is, i guessits uninstallable once its setup and stuff
[10:17] <ocs> hi. i did something wrong with video drivers:). and I cannot start the server x anymore. how can i "repair" that using the kubuntu live cd ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ocs: roll back your xorg.conf
[10:20] <ocs> ActionParsnip: in which way ?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ocs: use hte backup you create before you started playing
[10:20] <ocs> i didn't create a backup
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> why not?
[10:21] <ocs> i only tried to install kubuntu and few other things
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ocs: head into /etc/X11
[10:21] <ocs> ok, and then ?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ocs: there maybe some old xorg.confs in there you can rename to see if they work
[10:21] <ocs> ActionParsnip: already tried
[10:21] <flaccid> ocs: mount the filesystem from livecd and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf . i guess you are still trying to do the impossible ah well
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ocs: you have learned the hardest way that you should backup conf files before tweaking so you can easily roll back
[10:22] <ocs> flaccid: already tried
[10:22] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: ocs is try to use other drivers for a legacy Rage ati that is not supported
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ocs: so there are no xorg.conf~ files
[10:22] <flaccid> one can only try.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: oh, i didnt know
[10:22] <flaccid> yeah not much point in try to help this user
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ocs: is this a new install?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: i got a plan
[10:23] <ocs> ActionParsnip: i changed xorg.conf several times
[10:23] <ocs> ActionParsnip: ?
[10:23] <kumamoto> how about something like 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> ocs: how long has Kubuntu been on this system?
[10:23] <ocs> ok kumamoto let's try
[10:23] <ocs> ActionParsnip: two days
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> ocs: you could reinstall and stick to vesa drivers
[10:24] <ocs> ActionParsnip: i want to solve without reinstalling
[10:24] <flaccid> iirc user already did that ie. vesa
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> so it isnt even driven by vesa?
[10:25] <flaccid> it can be but user wants more
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> ocs: id edit your xorg.conf and put vesa as your driver
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: i see, unlucky
[10:27] <flaccid> unfortunately we went throught that only a couple of hours ago and now user has come back to try again
[10:28] <ocs> well, solved all
[10:29] <ocs> but i had to change manually the permission of .ICEautorithy
[10:29] <flaccid> that is never necessary unless it was changed manually
[10:29] <ocs> flaccid, it didn't start and gave me error on .ICEautorithy permissions
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ocs: as long as its good thats cool
[10:29] <ocs> so i made them 7777
[10:30] <ocs> but now I want to restore them in their old value
[10:31] <flaccid> thats wrong again. but hey i'll just be quiet and listen
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Im doing some compiz rubbish in #Ubuntu
[10:33] <flaccid> im kind of sick of newbie experts so i'll just take a break
[10:34] <DrLame_> hai
[10:36] <ik_> flaccid: i upgraded the kernel, and its still workin, shall i try to enable 3D support?
[10:36] <flaccid> ik_: enable how?
[10:36] <ik_> dunno yet :-3 i think with that "accelerated graphic driver" for ati
[10:37] <ik_> tuxracer works btw, although it's superslow.
[10:37] <flaccid> well that is what your card is meant to use and gives 3d
[10:37] <ik_> like 5GPS
[10:37] <flaccid> yeah no 3d
[10:37] <ik_> *FPS
[10:38] <ik_> but i want 3D :-3
[10:38] <flaccid> contact ATI. because this is sub-standard
[10:38] <DrLame_> Someone want to give me a hand getting compiz setup. All the guides I find seem to be outdated....
[10:38] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | DrLame_
[10:38] <DrLame_> thank you
[10:43] <DrLame_> lol... I thanked a bot
[10:43] <DrLame_> thank you for triggering, flaccid
[10:43] <DrLame_> xchat is weird >.>
[10:51] <ik_> flaccid: shall i activate the accelerated driver?
[10:51] <ik_> or would that cause me to have it reinstalled again >.<
[10:51] <ik_> (sorry for bad english lol)
[10:51] <apparle> !ati
[10:52] <apparle> How to install ATI flgrx drivers for 8.04
[10:53] <ik_> i know how to install it, just wondering if it would hurt my current install :-3
[10:53] <apparle> no I am asking the question how to install
[10:55] <apparle> I don't have net at howm can anyone tell me how to install ATI drivers for 8.04 remix
[10:55] <apparle> *home
[10:57] <vipex> Hello
[10:57] <apparle> what will these commands do??
[10:57] <apparle> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:57] <apparle> sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko
[10:59] <ik_> flaccid: WUT, my restricted driver is working 0.o
[10:59] <ik_> i can run compiz on my ati card 0.o
[11:03] <apparle> Please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/22557/
[11:14] <vipex> Hey can i have finnish irc channel link please?:)
[11:15] <vipex> Hey can i have finnish irc channel link please?:)
[11:15] <Psykar> #kubuntu-fi
[11:15] <EightiesK> how would I set deafult programs in kde?
[11:18] <EightiesK> some reason I can't set my deafult messener to pidgin
[11:20] <flaccid> hooray ik_
[11:23] <marius> hi to all
[11:23] <marius> need help
[11:23] <apparle> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22557/ please help
[11:24] <marius> anyone?
[11:26] <apparle> marius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22557/
[11:26] <apparle> I have 8.04 remix
[11:28] <flaccid> sorry im busy
[11:28] <flaccid> lol
[11:29] <flaccid> apparle: which release?
[11:30] <ik__> hey flaccid
[11:30] <ik__> its working now!
[11:30] <ik__> WITH 3D!
[11:30] <ik__> although there's some weird intervention, like flickering images.
[11:32] <flaccid> ik__: sounds better than expected
[11:32] <vipex> I got problem : WHen i start kubuntu i see all 2x bigger than normal :S
[11:34] <vipex> anyone knows why?
[11:34] <flaccid> glasses?
[11:34] <vipex> huh?
[11:34] <flaccid> nm
[11:35] <vipex> I dont have glasses cos i see all perfect .
[11:36] <flaccid> dang
[11:37] <vipex> the panel where is K menu Desktop isee only half of it.
[11:37] <vipex> yesterday all worked perfectly but not now>:(
[11:41] <fritz> tried to update a dapper to hardy, but freezed while updating ... then tried to boot with hardy cd, freezes too. now here with old dapper. are there any cheatcodes for the old system to boot with hardy? PIII with 1 Gh and 512 mb ram
[11:41] <fritz> dapper cd
[11:42] <vipex> Omg thisis working again
[11:42] <vipex> laterz
[11:54] <reese> in xorg.conf, the resolution is set to 1440x900_75, but when I log in, the refresh rate is always set to 60
[11:55] <Mary_ux> hi
[11:55] <Mary_ux> just a qst
[11:55] <Mary_ux> ﻿any1 knows how can i create an user who can only login in a specific machine??
[12:02] <Mary_ux> again..
[12:02] <Mary_ux> ﻿do you know how can i create an user who can only login on a specific machine??
[12:05] <Vicus> C'è qualcuno che può darmi una mano con amarok?
[12:10] <zsr> help
[12:17]  * flaccid drinks wine
[12:17] <casal> alguem pode me ajudar a configurar a resolução 1024 x 768?
[12:18] <flaccid> english onlly chan casal
[12:19] <sravi> i have a bluetooth streo headset. it is configured properly to work with amarok. with AVRCP i am able to play/pause, move to next track etc. perfectly. But when i pause the song and after one minute, i click play, it is not working
[12:21] <sravi> anyone out there can answer my previous question?
[12:26] <apparle> sravi: I don't know anything about above but I suggest you check if the bluetooth connection is turned off after a minute
[12:27] <sravi> apparle, the headset works fine with my mobile phone. i guess my computer bluetooth dongle mite get turned off i guess. i want to know how to check that
[12:28] <flaccid> sravi: #amarok might be able to hellp
[12:29] <nyuu> hi
[12:29] <nyuu> my vlc player is broken now
[12:30] <nyuu> how can I fix it
[12:38] <apparle> sravi: Do one thing, pause the playback for a minute and then check whether the dongle is off
[12:59] <nyuu> hi
[13:00] <engineer> hi
[13:01] <nyuu> I want to delete ubuntu desktop
[13:01] <nyuu> how can I do it
[13:07] <The_ManU_212> hi
[13:07] <The_ManU_212> i have now a new mouse
[13:07] <The_ManU_212> and the scroll wheel is inverted
[13:08] <The_ManU_212> how to change
[13:09] <engineer> The_ManU_212 system settings -> mouse
[13:09] <ds187> The_ManU_212: i would take a look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and search for a line that's called ZAxxisMapping, there it should said "4 5"........but perhaps that way is a bit oldfashioned :-)
[13:11] <nyuu> [00000338] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wmap'.
[13:11] <nyuu> this is my error
[13:11] <nyuu> how can I fix it
[13:11] <dr_Willis> libfaad dident work eh?
[13:12] <nyuu> I wwill try it again
[13:12] <nyuu> sudo apt-get install libfaad
[13:12] <nyuu> ??
[13:12] <dr_Willis> If you allready installed it once.. installing it again wont help
[13:12] <dr_Willis> !find faad
[13:12] <nyuu> it says: there is no pacgace
[13:12] <dr_Willis> there are 3 faad packages  of imporntance it seems
[13:13] <nyuu> it couldn't find
[13:13] <dr_Willis> the bot just showed the proper name for the packages
[13:13] <nyuu> ok
[13:13] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I will install all of them
[13:14] <The_ManU_212> engineer: ds187 thx u
[13:14] <nyuu> dr_Willis: it can't find the packs..?
[13:14] <dr_Willis> nyuu,  someone in Ubuntu suggested some otehr packages also
[13:14] <dr_Willis> nyuu,  then you need to enable the other repos
[13:15] <dr_Willis> !info libfaad0
[13:15] <dr_Willis> they are in the universe repo
[13:15] <BluesKaj> g'day
[13:15] <dr_Willis> you ARE using  hardy? 8.04 release of kubuntu?
[13:15] <nyuu> yes
[13:15] <nyuu> dr_Willis: :S
[13:17] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I don't know
[13:17] <dr_Willis> !version
[13:18] <nyuu> dr_Willis: Description  Ubuntu 8.10
[13:19] <flaccid> lol
[13:20] <dr_Willis> nyuu,  you some how managed to grab the next release befor its  ready. :)
[13:20] <dr_Willis> 8.04 is the current release.
[13:20] <nyuu> ow sorry ^^
[13:21] <nyuu> my poor eyes ^^
[13:21] <dr_Willis> Unless you miss-read/copied that version #/
[13:22] <dr_Willis> You proberly do NOT want to be using 8.10 at this time
[13:22] <nyuu> I am not a 8.10 user ^^
[13:22] <nyuu> 8.04
[13:23] <nyuu> dr_Willis: how can I install your 'faad' things?
[13:23] <dr_Willis> nyuu,  enable the universe reposuitory. and use the package manager tools
[13:23] <nyuu> dr_Willis: do you know a way?
[13:23] <nyuu> dr_Willis: to enable it
[13:24] <flaccid> !repos > nyuu
[13:24] <dr_Willis> theres an icon to do it in the menus, the package managers have ways to do it.. or youc an edit the files manually
[13:24] <flaccid> !adept > nyuu
[13:24] <nyuu> dr_Willis: thanks
[13:25] <nyuu> dr_Willis: ha, there is no adept-manager :S :S
[13:25] <nyuu> dr_Willis: and I am sure about that
[13:25] <flaccid> lol
[13:26] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I can send you a sss
[13:26] <dr_Willis> !adept
[13:26] <nyuu> ss ^^
[13:26] <dr_Willis> I normally use synaptic, or the command line. :)
[13:27] <nyuu> dr_Willis: ha, I used Alt+F2 and wrote 'adept' and it opened firefox !!
[13:27] <dr_Willis> nyuu,  look in your menus perhaps for the package manager icon?
[13:27] <dr_Willis> the command is not 'adept' i belive
[13:27] <nyuu> dr_Willis: sudo apt-get install adept ^^
[13:28] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I donno, but it seems that the adept has been deleted ^^
[13:28] <mary_lix> hi every1
[13:28] <mary_lix> ﻿How can I lock the "edit menu" option in gnome to an user??
[13:28] <dr_Willis> adept is name of the default kubuntu package manager for kde. its not called 'adept' from the command line
[13:28] <nyuu> dr_Willis: ok it came back ^^
[13:28] <dr_Willis> its adept_SOMTHING i belive
[13:29] <nyuu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[13:31] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I came back ^^
[13:31] <nyuu> the medibuntu reps are ready
[13:31] <mary_lix> heyyy any1 knows
[13:31] <mary_lix> ﻿How can I lock the "edit menu" option in gnome to an user??
[13:33] <dr_Willis> ask in #gnome or #ubuntu perhaps?
[13:34] <dr_Willis> Kde3 had some sort  of koisk mode/settings tool where you could lock down such things.. no idea on gnome.
[13:34] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I have enabled multiverse repos but...
[13:34] <mary_lix> i didt
[13:34] <mary_lix> not answ
[13:34] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I can't install faad...
[13:34] <helpy> !google earth
[13:36] <nyuu> dr_Willis: ok, I have found faads ^^
[13:36] <nyuu> dr_Willis: with adept manager
[13:37] <nyuu> dr_Willis: 2 of the faads were installed before, but now I am installing the -dev pacs too
[13:38] <nyuu> dr_Willis: no :( it gives the same thing
[13:38] <nyuu> dr_Willis: I have an idea but...
[13:38] <nyuu> dr_Willis: with ffmpeg we can change the codec
[13:38] <nyuu> dr_Willis: into mkv
[13:43] <__ALiCe__> maxb
[14:03] <brauerle> which script is beeing called, when pressing the standby button on the KDE shut down screen?
[14:06] <dr_Willis> nyuu,  its also possible the mplayer version from the medibuntu repos will be abl eto play it withou gconverting
[14:14] <lat> When I minimize a window it just disappears. How do I correct that?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> lat: does it not show at the bottom?
[14:14] <lat> ActionParsnip, no.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> lat: right click where you expect them -> add panel (or maybe add item) then scroll down till you see blue lines in a list like icon
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> lat: im vague as Im at work on XP
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lat: you need to add the thingy to show the running programs
[14:18] <lat> ActionParsnip, I suspect this is a kde4 problem. I probably should have gone to that forum. I'll try to find that thingy. Thanks.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> aaah kde4
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> yeah i'd head there
[14:23] <genii> Hi guys. Any pending questions?
[14:23] <lascar> I downgraded the kernel and lost sound -- Kmix tells me the "mixer cannot be found."  What should I do?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> lat: i ran a command a while back that reset the panel config
[14:23] <lascar> greetings, genii.
[14:25] <lat> If I hit C-Alt-F1 kde is put to sleep and the console takes up the whole screen. How then do I return to kde?
[14:25] <genii> lascar: What does "which kmix" report?
[14:25] <genii> lat: alt-f7
[14:26] <lat> ActionParsnip, that is probably the command I need.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> sleep mode is a PITA
[14:26] <lascar> genii: "which kmix"?
[14:26] <genii> lascar: Yes,  from konsole. Should be /usr/bin/kmix
[14:27] <lat> genii, many thanks. Just tried it and it worked.
[14:27] <genii> lat: np
[14:27] <lascar> genii: it is as you say.
[14:27] <ocs> hi. i have some problem with the keyboard. I can't write some characters, like "{" . The problem occoured after i executed  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> lat: if you are on when i get home in an hour and a half i'll jump in
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> lat: its like removing a single file
[14:28] <lat> ActionParsnip, thanks. I appreciate your help.
[14:30] <genii> lascar: When you downgraded the kernel, was it because of a sound system issue as well?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> lat: got it
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> lat: kquitapp plasma; rm /home/$USER/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma
[14:31] <unespkiosk> hi there people
[14:31] <unespkiosk> im usin kubuntu do make an internet kiosk
[14:31] <unespkiosk> im having some issues regardint the kiosktool
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> lat: mine was gone completely and i ran that and back it came
[14:31] <ubuntu> olha eu aki no kubuntu,..
[14:31] <ubuntu> Brazil
[14:31] <unespkiosk> falae brazuca
[14:31] <Pici> !br | ubuntu
[14:31] <unespkiosk> perdido?
[14:32] <lascar> unespkiosk: awesome.
[14:32] <ubuntu> da muito brazuca por aki
[14:32] <unespkiosk> so, i googled many ways of doing it
[14:32] <unespkiosk> but not happy at all
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> lat: let me know if its cool
[14:32] <unespkiosk> is there any other way?
[14:32] <ubuntu> da muito brazuca por aki
[14:32] <unespkiosk> pois e
[14:33] <lascar> genii: what's next?  Do you know?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: ive not seen this, gimme a sec
[14:34] <ubuntu> name
[14:34] <lascar> also, what software is good for internet kiosks?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> lascar: kiosktool looks ok
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: so you just create a very locked down system
[14:35] <ubuntu> gostaria de saber se tem como montar um servidor squid e cups( impressora usb ligada no linux hp 1020) tudo em um servidor soh?
[14:36] <unespkiosk> ubuntu: cara, vai no ubuntu-br
[14:36] <unespkiosk> ou faça perguntas em ingles neste canal
[14:36] <lascar> actionparsnip: thanx.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> lascar: ?
[14:37] <unespkiosk> ActionParsnip: i need to lock everything on the station
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> lascar: oh the kios thing, np man
[14:37] <unespkiosk> the kiosktool its almost like the gpolicies editor
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: yeah the gui seems pretty inuitive
[14:37] <unespkiosk> since i need only two apps running, i think kiosktool its way more than i need
[14:37] <ubuntu> ok
[14:37] <unespkiosk> i need the user only to open an especific site
[14:38] <unespkiosk> any browser
[14:38] <unespkiosk> on fullscreen, with no options to see the startup and so on
[14:38] <genii> lascar: Troubleshooting the sound system is not my strong point. Is the arts daemon running? eg:     pas ax| grep arts   should show a result
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: set the homepage in your chosen browser and lock it
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> lascar: can you play any sound at all
[14:38] <unespkiosk> and a screensaver, wich will do a random slideshow of the pictures on a remote server
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> lascar: aplay, amarok etc
[14:39] <lascar> genii: fair enough. "pas: command not found."
[14:39] <unespkiosk> hm
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: easy enough
[14:39] <unespkiosk> easy huh?
[14:39] <lascar> ActionParsnip: no sound at all.
[14:39] <unespkiosk> can u help me?
[14:39] <unespkiosk> im with firefox and konqueror
[14:39] <genii> lascar: Sorry, ps not pas there:) So  ps ax|grep arts
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: well the screen saver you can set in configure desktop
[14:39] <unespkiosk> i dont need much security, since they will try to get to another terminals, but with no root passwordk they wont be able to do much
[14:40] <unespkiosk> the kde already have the screensaver
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: just set it up as a normal pc then put kiosk ontop and screw it down
[14:40] <lascar> genii: should I pastebin?
[14:40] <unespkiosk> iv installed kubuntu, apt-get all the upgrades
[14:40] <unespkiosk> the terminal is fine
[14:40] <unespkiosk> im using it right now btw
[14:41] <genii> lascar:  No, only tell me if it shows that the it is running
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: and its set up how you want
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> full plugins etc
[14:41] <genii> lascar:  So if you need pastebin then it  must have given a result
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !pastebinit
[14:41] <lascar> genii: i guess.  There's a "?" next to 5646
[14:41] <unespkiosk> yeah, everithing its working fine
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: then screw it down with the kiosk
[14:42] <lascar> genii: which i'm guessing is a UID
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: id create a new user who is not part of the sudo group and make it autologon
[14:42] <genii> lascar: Yes, thats fine. What model is your soundcard? The command:     lspci -nn| grep Audio         may tell us
[14:43] <genii> lascar: The intel HDA ones for instance need alsa recompile each kernel change
[14:44] <genii> Work requires me a couple minutes. AFK
[14:44] <lascar> genii: really now?  it's an Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
[14:44] <lascar> therefore...
[14:44] <genii> !intelhda | lascar
[14:44] <lascar> genii: thanx for the url
[14:45] <b4s3m> guys ... my Kubuntu breaks everytime i try to open my computer .... it just give me a black screen after finishing kubuntu bar loading ....
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> b4s3m: boot to failsafe mode, press esc when grub is loading
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> b4s3m: then check in /var/log for clues
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> b4s3m: any changes? new hardware? new software install?
[14:47] <lat> ActionParsnip, all went well until the last command: http://pastebin.com/d534e28e7
[14:47] <unespkiosk> ActionParsnip: how i do that
[14:47] <unespkiosk> th lock the browser
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: i think its part of kiosk
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: never had to do it
[14:48] <unespkiosk> ahuehaue
[14:48] <unespkiosk> me too
[14:48] <unespkiosk> hard doing it
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> you could set the homepage, then use chromedit to remove the menus from firefox
[14:48] <b4s3m> ActionParsnip: actually i tried to enable graphics acceleration .... then everything is screwed :S
[14:48] <unespkiosk> the kiosktool always crashes
[14:49] <unespkiosk> i start configurin it and it crashes
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> b4s3m: then roll back your xorg.conf and review
[14:49] <unespkiosk> i did the configuration on the text
[14:49] <unespkiosk> kderc
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: then reinstall or log a bug
[14:49] <unespkiosk> iv reinstalled it many times
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> sounds like a bug
[14:49] <unespkiosk> iv tryed debian erlier
[14:49] <unespkiosk> installed kde with nothing else
[14:49] <unespkiosk> then the kiosktool
[14:49] <unespkiosk> same issue
[14:50] <unespkiosk> i think the kiostool its more than i need
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: any alternatives?
[14:50] <unespkiosk> i dont need the autologin, since i have to turn the pcs everymorning
[14:50] <unespkiosk> i can login to the locked user, and let it flow
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[14:50] <unespkiosk> if i need something to be fixed, i can login as admin
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> totally
[14:51] <unespkiosk> iv setted the screensaver, i just need to lock the browser
[14:51] <unespkiosk> with the same page
[14:51] <unespkiosk> iv also seen a loop, in case the browser crashes, to open again
[14:51] <unespkiosk> BUT
[14:52] <unespkiosk> im stucked on how to lock the browser and the other things the user may try to do
[14:52] <genii> Back
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: theres an extension called public fox
[14:53] <helpy> umm you might need to change access to root for programs
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3911/
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: doesnt work with FF3
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> unespkiosk: but FF2 is fine
[14:54] <genii> lascar: They may suggest some previous alsa version than the current one on that site, I recommend to use the ones from http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download
[14:55] <lascar> genii: ok
[14:57] <unespkiosk> hm nice
[14:58] <unespkiosk> ill try it
[15:00] <unespkiosk> i found this
[15:00] <unespkiosk> http://ramblings.narrabilis.com/wp/firefox-fullscreen-kiosk-machine/
[15:01] <unespkiosk> but its about gnome, im afraid it wont have the screensaver slideshow
[15:10]  * genii sips a coffee
[15:11] <genii> lascar: Any result yet?
[15:12] <lascar> genii: i'll reboot in a bit
[15:12] <lascar> i compiled the alsa driver
[15:13] <genii> lascar: OK. I'll be around.
[15:15] <lascar> genii: cool, much obliged.
[15:16] <genii> lascar: NP
[15:17] <genii> bah capslock :)
[15:24] <incorrect> is kde4 usable yet?
[15:25] <genii> It's a matter of some debate. But the general consensus is no.
[15:29] <incorrect> genii, i tried it some time ago and no was my end conclusion
[15:29] <incorrect> but that was almost 6 months ago
[15:32] <loctar> 4.1 seems to be shaping up though
[15:35] <loctar> does anyone know when the beta2 packages for 4.1 will be out btw?
[15:35] <incorrect> i am bored of gnome
[15:36] <incorrect> kde3 is blah
[15:37] <nicola> hi
[15:37] <MrKennie> Is the panel much more configurable in kde4.1 yet?
[15:37] <nicola> yes
[15:38] <MrKennie> one of my dislikes of kde4.0, I like to do as a wish with the panel :)
[15:38] <nicola> ?
[15:39] <incorrect> that was good engrish
[15:40] <MrKennie> sorry, the fact that the panel in kde4.0 is not very configurable
[15:40] <nicola> 4.1 you can do a lot
[15:40] <genii> I think if they make some wrapper which lets you use all the old kde3 panel apps as kde4 widgets that will be the biggest breakthrough
[15:41] <nicola> 4.1 beta1 provides enough feature to be comparable to 3
[15:42] <nicola> 4.1 beta is also much more stable than 4.0.5
[15:43] <nicola> hard to believe but true!
[15:44] <LinuxWorld> betas are for gamblas..
[15:44] <MrKennie> 4.1 sounds excellent.
[15:44] <nicola> ?
[15:44] <nicola> that also what I was expecting
[15:44] <nicola> but 4.1 is much more stable than 4.0
[15:45] <nicola> 4.0.5 looks more to be the pre-candidate of 4.1
[15:45] <nicola> on  a major release that is normal
[15:47] <nicola> anyway today they have just released 4.1 beta 2
[15:47] <nicola> I think you should try it!
[15:47]  * genii waits for 4.2 RC1
[15:47] <nicola> 4.2???
[15:47] <genii> hehe
[15:48] <loctar> yup, been running beta 1 for a week now. it's pretty stable, if you don't mess with plasma too much
[15:48] <genii> nicola: In other words I think it is still a generation behind where it should be
[15:48] <nicola> it depends..
[15:48] <nicola> on the usage you do of the application itself
[15:48] <incorrect> genii, rc1? you are brave today!
[15:49] <incorrect> so 4.1 is going to be a bit faster?
[15:49] <genii> incorrect: Hah, smart*ss
[15:49] <nicola> this is how it looks like
[15:49] <incorrect> you know you have to worry when you Q6600 struggles to run the desktop
[15:50] <nicola> than run vista on it!
[15:50] <incorrect> i blame enlightenment, if that project had released e17 by now...
[15:50] <incorrect> i like vista is great
[15:51] <genii> incorrect: Yup. Thats what I have on my desktop. So this little laptop would really just chug.
[15:51] <genii> (q6600)
[15:51] <nicola> that's why yuu need Q6600
[15:51] <genii> nicola: My desktop DOES have a q6600 .
[15:53] <genii> My laptop is core duo 1.7
[15:53] <nicola> I run on a common laptop and no problem at all
[15:53] <nicola> IBM t43
[15:54] <nicola> but why kubuntu.. and not ubuntu?
[15:54] <nicola> you do not like to be a big friend of K
[15:56] <genii> nicola: Actually both my main boxes multiboot. So xfce,gnome,kde and kde4 on the linux side. Then freebsd on the unix side. Then Windows on the crappy side
[15:57] <nicola> thanks for your clear explanation.. I feel now relieved
[15:57] <nicola> anyway I am dowloading BETA 2
[15:57] <nicola> :-)
[16:05] <holli> hi, how come that the same ubuntu 8..04 cd recognizes a wlan stick on one machine but not on the other (genii, you dont need to answer ;-)
[16:06] <scorpio> есть кто живой?
[16:07] <genii> !gr | scorpio
[16:07] <Pici> !ru | scorpio
[16:07] <genii> Pici: Wrong language I had :)
[16:07] <Pici> Yah
[16:07] <genii> I think I need more caffeine....
[16:07] <marcreichelt> hi there!
[16:08] <marcreichelt> does anybody know how I can get the console to display UTF-8 characters (the terminal one gets by pressing Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6])?
[16:08] <MurielGodoi> Hi all, Anyone noticed that Firefox menu text color is getting the color from standard text and not from window text as desired?
[16:23] <sigma_> has anyone installed openoffice 3.0 beta on kubuntu successfully?
[16:27] <helpy> !medibuntu
[16:27] <helpy> !skype
[16:33] <lyhana8> hi, i want to enable support of Fn+[key] to manage the volume, i've a multiple session desktop (kde3.5, kde4, kde4-neon).
[16:33] <lyhana8> 2 days ago i was under Hardy+kde3.5 and that work fine, i install Hardy+kde4 yesterday and that don't work anymore
[16:33] <lyhana8> is there a package to install
[16:34] <michelo> hello
[16:35] <michelo> what's the name of the application where passwords are stored?
[16:35] <michelo> kdewallet is not good
[16:37] <numan> i am having problem with display after upgrade to hardy
[16:37] <michelo> kwalletmanager \o/
[16:38] <numan> flaccid: u there?
[16:39] <numan> anybody know how to solve it?
[16:39] <crookshanks> i've noticed that kde4 sometimes applies its theme to GTK apps, even though i've told it not to.  any way to fix this?
[16:41] <genii> crookshanks: Perhaps enquire in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:41] <crookshanks> genii: kk, thanks
[16:41] <int20> Hi! How I can reset my font settings in KDE4? (System Settings -> Appearance don't start)?
[16:42] <genii> int20: Perhaps enquire in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:42] <genii> Gotta love code reuse
[16:43] <int20> genii: thank you, i try
[16:44] <int20> genii: #kubuntu-kde4 is dead channel...
[16:44]  * int20 want to reset settings at kde user profile
[16:45] <lascar> genii: sound has been restored.  Thanx for everything.
[16:46] <genii> lascar: You're welcome
[16:46] <lascar> later, everyone
[16:48] <numan> nobody help here?
[16:48] <engineer> nop
[16:49] <numan> engineer: ??/
[16:50] <genii> numan: A more specific description of your problem might help.
[16:50] <shadowbox> whats the difference between the CD and DVD version of the kubuntu download?
[16:51] <helpy> there was an error committing packages.  probably there was a problem downloading packages or commit would break it
[16:51] <helpy> what is this error about ?
[16:51] <helpy> i can't install packages
[16:51] <KRF> shadowbox, more packages on dvd
[16:52] <shadowbox> ahh, ok, I guess that would be the better option if one did not have access to the internet, eh?
[16:52] <basy> Hi, i have problens when i try "LogOut->Turn off", I have to switch to console a manualy kill "keytouchd" process, any help please?
[16:53] <numan> i cant get to login screen due to video card problem because i get black screen
[16:53] <shadowbox> would it have the restricted drivers on it?
[16:53] <shadowbox> or would I have to still download them?
[16:53] <numan> helpy: u still there?
[16:53] <DrSlony> Help, is it possible to change the resolution in xorg.conf when booting off  a livecd? A friend complains that he want to try some livecd but he gets a wrong resolution by default. He uses a widescreen, I assume 1680x1050. Can you edit xorg.conf and save and restart x when booting off a live cd? Will there not be a problem of not being root?
[16:53] <helpy> yes
[16:54] <helpy> try it DrSlony
[16:54] <numan> plz help me solve this problem regarding no display
[16:55] <DrSlony> helpy no i cant try it, since im not doing it :] but i need to know what to tell him :]
[16:55] <genii> helpy: "committing packages" s usually a message that comes from SVN or CVS or so on, not from the usual way of installing packages from Adept/Synaptic/apt-get or so. What command or program is giving you this "commit" error?
[16:55] <helpy> tell him to go ahead :)
[16:55] <helpy> linux is all about trying
[16:55] <DrSlony> been saying that all the time :]
[16:55] <helpy> genii sun-java6-plugin seems to be broken in adept
[16:55] <helpy> its causing the whole problem.
[16:55] <DrSlony> but if it turns out you cant save xorg.conf I dont want to put him through the hassle of editing it etc (his first time with linux)
[16:56] <DrSlony> 'hassle' ;]
[16:56] <numan> ;]
[16:56] <helpy> i dont know DrSlony  i can't be of help
[16:56] <helpy> didnt try it before
[16:56] <numan> :]
[16:58] <genii> helpy: Close then Adept and try to install instead from the command in Konsole of: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[16:59] <helpy> ok
[16:59] <helpy> i did update before that
[16:59] <helpy> let me get you the update for sun
[17:00] <genii> DrSlony: They can edit the xorg.conf file to add what resolution it should do and then restart X server with keystroke of ctrl-alt-backspace
[17:01] <numan> how to resolve this out of range problem for my monitor?
[17:01] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22644/
[17:01] <helpy> are you in recovery mode now numan ?
[17:01] <genii> DrSlony: Since livecd has no login password, you can use sudo without incident for something like sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:01] <numan> not yet i am in windows now
[17:02] <DrSlony> genii ok thanks!
[17:02] <numan> wait 10 mins then i get into ubuntu
[17:02] <helpy> you installed kubuntu with wubi ?
[17:03] <numan> who? me!
[17:03] <helpy> yes
[17:03] <numan> no
[17:03] <numan>  i have multiple os installed in my computer
[17:03] <helpy> since when did that start happening ?
[17:04] <numan> after upgrade to latest  version, it  happen whenever i reinstall or upgrade
[17:04] <lyhana8> hulo, does anybody know how to install support for Fn+[key] support ?
[17:05] <numan> before it helped me bu selecting vesa driver for x server
[17:05] <numan> now i cant get any display
[17:07] <genii> helpy: And when you run the suggested command of:   sudo apt-get -f install -a            What happens then?
[17:07] <numan> even i cant  use live cd to install ubuntu because of display problem i have to use alternate cd
[17:08] <cadoo> numan: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:08] <numan> let me boot to ubuntu first
[17:27] <nuno_> I'm having some problems in KNetworkManager , can someone help me?
[17:28] <nuno_> No one?
[17:29] <nuno_> I guess i'll have to install another network manager then...
[17:35] <lg188> helo back
[17:36] <lg188> !nl
[17:39] <marius> hi
[17:40] <marius> i need a proofing tool for open office?
[17:40] <marius> anyoane?
[17:40] <marius> an ideea?
[17:41] <genii> !info ftdiff
[17:41] <genii> Hmm
[17:46] <gribouille> hi
[17:46] <gribouille> how can I install kde 4 beta 2 ?
[17:47] <gribouille> how can I install kde 4 beta 2 ?
[17:47] <genii> gribouille: Please ask in channel #kubuntu-kde4
[17:52] <d[x_x]b> HELP ---->   wheres the root trash in hardy?  (ie my trash is in ~/.local/Trash)
[17:53] <dr_Willis> d[x_x]b,  /root/ is roots ~ :)
[17:53] <dr_Willis> d[x_x]b,  so /root/whatever
[17:55] <mariechristine> do you speak french ??
[17:55] <genii> dr_Willis: I like how no lecture about root login from you there...   ;)
[17:55] <numan> its same like xfix
[17:55] <numan> i mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:57] <dr_Willis> I dont care what you do. :)
[17:57] <dr_Willis> no root login dosent mean that root cant have a home and trash in their home. :)
[17:58] <MurielGodoi> Hi all, Anyone knows why Firefox menu text color is getting the color from standard text and not from window text as desired?
[17:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> MurielGodoi: could you explain that a little better? what menus?
[17:59] <genii> dr_Willis: True, true
[17:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> the actual menu bar (File Edit etc.)
[18:03] <muk_mb> is firefox 3 not in the main repo yet?
[18:03] <MurielGodoi> Daisuke_Laptop: exactely, menubar and menuitens text.
[18:04] <MurielGodoi> Daisuke_Laptop: I used have a dark desktop theme... so i use text color as white
[18:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> MurielGodoi: firefox isn't really a gtk or qt app, so it doesn't always play nice with dark themes
[18:04] <MurielGodoi> Daisuke_Laptop: All aplications works fine... but in Firefox all windowtext is black, not white
[18:05] <MurielGodoi> It turns white only if i set default text to white
[18:06] <MurielGodoi> Daisuke_Laptop: but it make white all textfields and web forms
[18:07] <MurielGodoi> Daisuke_Laptop: For who should I report it?
[18:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> mozilla
[18:08] <MurielGodoi> is there a mozilla chanel at this server?
[18:09] <rickest> MurielGodoi: not really, there's #firefox and #ubuntu-mozillateam though
[18:10] <MurielGodoi> Daisuke_Laptop: I will join there.... thanks
[18:26] <Danger_XXX> Hi everybody
[18:27] <helpy> i have broken sun-java6-plugin
[18:27] <helpy> it won't let me install synaptic manager
[18:27] <helpy> any help ?
[18:29] <Danger_XXX> we are alone, helpy, I guess
[18:29] <genii> helpy: Did you ever run the suggested command of:   sudo apt-get -f install -a            ?
[18:29] <Danger_XXX> :)
[18:29] <helpy> heh
[18:29] <helpy> yep genii
[18:29] <Lynet> Is there a way to make file copying more robust? That is, to have it continue on error instead of aborting.
[18:29] <helpy> i have removed the plugin trying to reinstall
[18:29] <helpy> if it doesnt work, i'll let you know the output
[18:29]  * genii sips his coffee
[18:32] <Danger_XXX> people, I need free mp3 codec for my Kubuntu ---- 2.6.24-16 generic--
[18:32] <helpy> Danger_XXX:  dont bother. use vlc
[18:33] <helpy> fixed genii
[18:33] <helpy> :)
[18:33] <helpy> i am disappointed by the fact that adept doesnt fix broken packages by itself
[18:34] <engineer> i think synaptic does
[18:34] <helpy> thats what i am installing atm engineer
[18:34] <genii> Lynet: An error during file copy indicates some problem and you would not really want it to continue under those circumstances. eg: source file is corrupt, or location to copy to has physical hd problems, etc
[18:34] <numan> helpy: i think you should use dpkg-remove command to remove broken package first
[18:34] <engineer> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:34] <helpy> i have done it already numan
[18:35] <helpy> thanks for helping though :)
[18:35] <numan> so what happened?
[18:36] <helpy> fixed
[18:37] <SpeS> hi
[18:37] <engineer> hi spaniard
[18:38] <Lynet> genii: That is not always the case. In some cases it is much better to get a (non-blocking) notification of failures but having the rest of the copy job proceed as normal.
[18:38] <Danger_XXX> VLC -- there is no relevant version for my Kubuntu (hardy heron)
[18:39] <SpeS> engineer, how do you know that? :)
[18:39] <Lynet> genii: Take for example copying umpteen thousand mp3's to my cell phone, a few of which have file names not supported by the destination file system.
[18:39] <Danger_XXX> will it make extra problems installing VLC for Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10
[18:39] <Danger_XXX> Ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04
[18:39] <Danger_XXX> Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10
[18:40] <Danger_XXX> I mean these versions on my comp
[18:40] <engineer> SpeS you ususually talk spnish in herer
[18:43] <genii> Lynet: Mount the filesytem there with check=r     for instance on fat/vfat
[18:44] <alinux> hello
[18:44] <Lynet> genii: How would I do the equivalent for obex://?
[18:45] <skyNomad> Hi, how do I  move widgets around on the task bar?
[18:46] <skyNomad> In KDE 3 I used to be able to drag and drop, or right-click and select Move. But now, I can't seem to move widgets around.
[18:47] <jussi01> skyNomad: you are on kde4? #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[18:47] <skyNomad> jussi01: Yes.
[18:48] <jussi01> skyNomad: please join #kubuntu-kde4
[18:48] <skyNomad> jussi01: Thanks.
[18:50] <SpeS> engineer, what's herer?
[18:51] <engineer> here*
[18:52] <reflexxxx> hello
[18:53] <engineer> hi
[18:53] <reflexxxx> how do i list channels?
[18:53] <Drk_Guy>  /list
[18:54] <reflexxxx> thx
[18:54] <Drk_Guy> Wait tonsof channels to appear
[18:54] <reflexxxx> I'll try
[18:54] <Drk_Guy> lol
[18:54] <reflexxxx> long time not in irc
[18:55] <Drk_Guy> XD
[19:06] <DrSlony> Help, a friend of mine booted his kubuntu live cd and this is what he got. He says that he cant press buttons because 'the place where they really are is not the place where they appear to be". What should he try doing to fix this? http://www.autopano.net/forum/showimage.php?pid=25518&filename=snapshot1.jpg
[19:20] <nogden> anyone have apt breakage upgrading to latest KDE4.1beta packages?
[19:25] <numan> i am having problem with network device after hardy upgrade
[19:25] <helpy> whats the error numan ?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> i cant install firefox3 from repos
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> I get this output when i try
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22669/
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> can anyone please advise
[19:26] <helpy> broken packages ActionParsnip
[19:26] <numan> i cant get to internet
[19:26] <helpy> you need to remove broken packages
[19:26] <helpy> re install
[19:26] <helpy> i've had the same problem 10 mins ago
[19:26] <reflexxxx> lol numan
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> helpy: yeah im wrenching out ff3
[19:27] <helpy> reinstall would do :)
[19:27] <helpy> adpet is lousing in fixing broken packages
[19:27] <helpy> after you are done, get synaptic manager
[19:27] <helpy> and repair broken packages
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> helpy: i use apt-get
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> ahh will try :)
[19:27] <numan> i tried network admin in system but it says that i have no access to system configuration
[19:28] <helpy> try sudo
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> helpy: im familiar with stuff, justr dont get why packages are broken :(
[19:30] <helpy> bad internet connection
[19:30] <helpy> or a quick break up with server
[19:30] <helpy> could be alot of things
[19:30] <Pici> No, they'd fail the md5 check if that was the case.
[19:30] <nogden> the latest packages for KDE4.1 seem to be broken
[19:31] <helpy> kde4 is buggy
[19:31] <nogden> lol, yeah but the packages should install ok
[19:31] <nogden> kdebase-workspace-data trys to overwrite a file that's also part of kdebase-runtime-data
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> ok looks like im ok now
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> now I can install stuff
[19:33] <oblenob> ooh
[19:33] <oblenob> brilliant
[19:34] <oblenob> this channnel exists
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> xulrunner is giving me grief
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> oblenob: indeed
[19:34] <oblenob> I am considering running Kubuntu
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> oblenob: cool
[19:34] <oblenob> I cant stand Windows any longer
[19:34] <oblenob> :D
[19:35] <nogden> well, don't consider... do
[19:35] <oblenob> yup
[19:35] <helpy> you are making an awesome decision oblenob
[19:35] <oblenob> I know
[19:35] <oblenob> I know
[19:35] <helpy> you wont regret
[19:35] <oblenob> of course
[19:35] <oblenob> but
[19:36] <oblenob> I am thinking about one or two things
[19:36] <FSHero> Hello there: is anyone else having troubles with Kubuntu Hardy 2.6.24-19 kernel? When I boot into it, X tries to start (can see a mouse cursor briefly) but then it drops me to the console.
[19:36] <oblenob> I use flash
[19:36] <FSHero> (Note: I'm using nvidia drivers from the repository -- possible conflict?)
[19:36] <helpy> did you google it FSHero  ?
[19:36] <nogden> FSHero:possibly, working fine here but that's on an ATI card with OSS drivers
[19:38] <oblenob> does Wine run on KDE?
[19:38] <oblenob> I dont really understand that
[19:38] <oblenob> and will I be able to use flash?
[19:38] <FSHero> helpy: okay I'll do that
[19:38] <pim> oblenob what do you mean by flash
[19:38] <pim> as in firefox when browsing the web: yes
[19:38] <oblenob> I mean
[19:38] <Pici> oblenob: KDE and Gnome are just desktop environments on top of Linux, nearly everything can be run in either
[19:39] <oblenob> the program to create flash stuff
[19:39] <oblenob> Flash CS3
[19:39] <Drk_Guy> !wine | oblenob
[19:39] <Drk_Guy> Wine integrates specially well with KDE
[19:39] <oblenob> brilliant
[19:39] <oblenob> :)
[19:39] <oblenob> are there any good music creation tools for linux?
[19:40] <oblenob> I am a lover of open source
[19:40] <oblenob> I allready use GIMp, Blender, OpenOffice
[19:40] <oblenob> etc
[19:40] <oblenob> but I know only of audacity for audio
[19:40] <oblenob> and that is editing
[19:40] <oblenob> rather than creation
[19:40] <nogden> by music creation what do you mean exactly?
[19:40] <nogden> recording?
[19:40] <nogden> or synthesis
[19:41] <oblenob> like
[19:41] <oblenob> synthesis
[19:41] <oblenob> I use FLStudio
[19:41] <oblenob> well
[19:41] <oblenob> a hack of it
[19:41] <oblenob> I cant afford the full version
[19:42] <nogden> don't really know to be honest... I use Hydrogen for drums but other then that I haven't explored
[19:42] <Pici> Check out the dependencies of ubuntstudio-audio, or just install the whole metapackage if you have the free harddrive space
[19:42] <oblenob> I got 35 Gigs
[19:42] <nogden> I think there's possibly a version of Reason for linux
[19:42] <oblenob> not much :(
[19:43] <Ayabara> the wireless network on my gf's computer have gone mad. what can I delete to get rid of all the stored network setting I have entered and get a fresh start?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Ayabara: if you renmae the /etc/network/interfaces file and reboot, you'll get a fresh one
[19:46] <p_quarles> Ayabara, iirc, some settings are stored by knetworkmanager, and passkeys are stored by kwalletmanager -- to get rid of everything, you'd need to reset both of them
[19:46] <Ayabara> ActionParsnip: ok. I'll give it a try
[19:47] <Ayabara> p_quarles: actually I use kde and my gf use gnome, so maybe the tip from ActionParsnip will work for her
[19:47] <p_quarles> Ayabara, only if the problem is the name of the network device (doubtful)
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Ayabara: its all the same, just the front bit you see is different
[19:48] <p_quarles> the equivalents in Gnome would be networkmanager(-applet) and Gnome-Keyring
[19:50] <oblenob> hmm about my music thing
[19:50] <oblenob> I guess I could use the software that I am developing with some friends in python
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> oblenob: check audacity
[19:51] <oblenob> I use that allready
[19:51] <oblenob> I ean for music creation
[19:51] <FSHero> helpy: I did searches like 2.6.24-19 and cannot start X... but no dice :(
[19:51] <oblenob> liek an alternative to imagelines FlStudio
[19:51] <helpy> umm
[19:51] <helpy> what do you want to do ?
[19:51] <FSHero> helpy: are there some general tips I can use to get a display working after a kernel upgrade?
[19:52] <FSHero> helpy: I am booted into a 2.6.24-18 kernel right now... so maybe I shall stick with this for a while.
[19:52] <FSHero> helpy: should I remove, then install, the 2.6.24-19 kernel?
[19:53] <helpy> try that FSHero
[19:53] <helpy> why are you upgrading kernel anyways ?
[19:54] <FSHero> helpy: I'm upgrading because Adept updater offered it to me :)
[19:54] <FSHero> helpy: thx for helping!
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> whats the force command for dpkg -i please??
[19:56] <helpy> no idea
[19:58] <BluesKaj> !dpkg
[19:58] <BluesKaj> !force
[19:58] <venik> Does anyone speak SAMBA here?  I am trying to share a printer that is on a kubuntu 8.04 machine with a WINDOWS XP machine
[19:58] <venik> what should I put in the smb.conf file?
[19:59] <venik> the GUI tools do not seem to work
[19:59] <venik> !samba
[19:59] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I think it could be sudo dpkg -i  -f packagname
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> sudo dpkg --install --force-all *.deb
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> haha no backtalk sukka. errrrrrr!!!
[20:00]  * ActionParsnip flexes his pecks
[20:01] <Agent_bob> the ati howto says i don't need the propritary driver.  yet i can't watch vidios with the free ati driver nor the vesa driver.   should i try the non-free one anyway ?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> venik , use the printer wizard for a network printer, if the printer is connected to the windows pc , set up on windows smb network then as guest .
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: what card do you have??
[20:03] <venik> THe printer is connected to the Kubuntu machine, and does not appear when I browse for it on the XP machine
[20:03] <venik> that is why I am asking here
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> venik: have you shared it with samba??
[20:03] <venik> I am not sure how to do that
[20:03] <Agent_bob> R200 something
[20:03] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip ^
[20:03] <BluesKaj> venik, samba will use the cups system for network printing , and then you have to make sure to choose the driver for the printer
[20:03] <helpy> anyone knows about mic issues ?
[20:03] <helpy> i can't get my mic to work
[20:03] <helpy> audio is fine
[20:04] <helpy> i mean listening
[20:04] <venik> the printer works, so I guess the driver is correct
[20:04] <nogden> Agent_bob:should be able to get that working... I have an r300 chipset on the ati open source driver running fine
[20:04] <venik> (it is connected to the kubuntu machine with a palallel connection)
[20:04] <BluesKaj> venik have you set the printer up to share on the network ?
[20:04] <nogden> Agent_bob: what's in your xorg.conf
[20:05] <venik> How do I do that, Blues?  SHould I put something about it in the smb.conf?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> from the windows pc
[20:05] <Agent_bob> nogden working ?   what do you mean "working"?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> the windows pc has to see the printer first of all
[20:05] <nogden> Agent_bob: video
[20:05] <venik> Blue-- I chose Add a network printer
[20:05] <Agent_bob> nogden xorg is faltless   it's just playing vidios that doesn't work correctly.
[20:06] <nogden> Agent_bob: do you have composite and aiglx enabled?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blog&i=109
[20:06] <Agent_bob> nogden no.
[20:06] <BluesKaj> venik, you may have to add a driver on the windows pc
[20:07] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip k. looking.
[20:07] <nogden> Agent_bob: and what happens when you try and play a video? Blank screen but you still gt audio?
[20:07]  * pim is away: Is voor nu afwezig.
[20:07] <venik> Blues-- can you be a little more vague?  What exactly do you mean?
[20:08] <venik> I thought if XP found the printer on the SAMBA list (in the workgroup) it should just use the printer
[20:08] <BluesKaj> venik in thew windows print wizard there's an option to install a printer driver '
[20:09] <venik> yes-- ADD PRINTER
[20:09] <BluesKaj> driver
[20:09] <venik> CHOOSE NETWORK PRINTER
[20:09] <Agent_bob> nogden no.  plays just fine until i switch tty's then the vidio portion of the movie is only a brown curtain looking screen     only fix is a power off/on cycle.   happens in all movie players.
[20:11] <venik> I see no such thing-- I am looking at the Wizard, and it goes: Add-->Network-->browse--> at which point the printer should show up, but it does not, probably because of the incorrect smb.conf file
[20:11] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip something in particular on hat blog or did you miss that it's about ati+beryl ?
[20:11] <venik> (other printers do show up, btw)
[20:11] <Agent_bob> s/hat/that/
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: its to do with your gfx card
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: ati + linux arent great mates
[20:13] <joker> hello rom
[20:13] <joker> room
[20:14] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip "ati + linux arent great mates"  heh  ati and anything that i know of arent great mates mate.
[20:14] <venik> 8.04
[20:14] <BluesKaj> venik , you have to do it from windows, not linux
[20:14] <joker> can enny 1 tell me how to get yahoo to run on linux
[20:15] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip but it's a lappy,  i can't exactly change the card without changing the mb
[20:15] <lovre> i have a file, with some lines, how do i sort the lines alphabetically inside a file?
[20:15] <venik> as I said above, there is no such place on my xp.  Only the sequence: add printer>network printer>browse for a printer
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: looks like you need the open source driver
[20:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> joker: go to the address bar and type http://www.yahoo.com
[20:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Agent_bob: haven't heard about the 4850 have you?
[20:15] <Agent_bob> and it's got other ati chips on the board too as if things werent bad enough
[20:16] <venik> I am almost certain that I have to add something to my smb.conf file for the printer to appear on the samba network
[20:16] <joker> i have it installed but itcant find serv??
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: xserver-xorg-video-ati
[20:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> they're shipping linux drivers on-disc with those and going to a mostly platform-independent driver architecture (a la nvidia)
[20:16] <venik> the only question is: what do I add?
[20:16] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip 4850   ummm no.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:16] <venik> I uncommented most of the things that looked promising, but none did the trick
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: Full 3D support (r100 and r200 series)
[20:17] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip not avalable in dapper  only xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: search the page for R200
[20:17] <joker> daisuk it dosnt let me log in says not coneted to the net but i am  lol
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: then add aiglx
[20:18] <BluesKaj> venik , I would connect the printer to the windows pc ...linux talks to windows beterr than vice versa...I used to have a HP printer connected to my wife's windows pc due the ease of the cups system
[20:18] <shoklowitz> hi, I just closed and restarted my kmix, and now my on screen displays for volume are gone and I can't mute using Fn+Mute anymore.
[20:18] <shoklowitz> Anyone have any ideas?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> bbab
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> shoklowitz: id reboot. simple yet effective
[20:20] <joker> doae enny one know how i can get my yahoo mess to conect to the net from linux?? pleas
[20:20] <shoklowitz> ID reboot?
[20:20] <shoklowitz> Simple Reboot?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> shoklowitz: yeah, sudo shutdown -r now
[20:21] <shoklowitz> Ok
[20:21] <shoklowitz> Thanks let's see if it works
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> save your work first
[20:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> joker: are you drunk or something?  anyway, try pidgin or kopete.
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> reboots always fix stuff
[20:22] <joker> ty
[20:23] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip why am i not seeing anything useful on that page ?
[20:24] <Agent_bob> could it be because it's primarily for hardy and i'm on dapper   or maybe the fact that i'm not interested in 3d ?
[20:24] <Agent_bob> and it only covers the driver i'm already using for dapper ?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> what is the line in lspci for your gfx casrd please]
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:27] <shoklowitz> Hi again. That sort of worked. Now I have the OSD for Vol + And Vol - But no OSD for my Fn+Mute
[20:27]  * pim is back.
[20:27] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7f0465c4
[20:27] <shoklowitz> However, it IS muting the Master Channel ( but that's not muting anthing )y
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> shoklowitz: its halfway, id follow the steps you took to get it
[20:28] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip -nn ???   no ati in that output.
[20:28] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip did you mean -vv ?
[20:28] <shoklowitz> Could you explain it a bit more? I'm a n00b. I was using Gentoo before this for a little while, but not much else.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: i got it from a forum
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: what lappy do you have??
[20:29] <Agent_bob> toshiba satalite
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> shoklowitz: well you took some step to get the OSD enabled, do it again
[20:29] <Agent_bob> a100 i think.
[20:29] <shoklowitz> Ok so I just sudo restart again?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: what model, theres a million tosh sattelites, can you check
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> shoklowitz: id check to make sure the stuff you didi to get OSD is stil standing
[20:30] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d25d8ac00 here is -vv
[20:30] <shoklowitz> I didn't do much at all. Someone here told me to do a sudo restart of some sort
[20:30] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip where would i check ?   no paper work on it
[20:30] <shoklowitz> I did and it worked. Only I can't mute now.
[20:31] <shoklowitz> I forgot what the command was. I had tried a normal restart before, but that hadn't worked. This did.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> shoklowitz: ok
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: check on the bottom
[20:32] <shoklowitz> Any ideas about what I should do now?
[20:32] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip bottom tab says a135-s2326
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> perfect
[20:32] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip yeah was typing it as you answered
[20:33]  * Agent_bob reminds self to scrape off that M$ sticker...
[20:37] <shoklowitz> Could anyone help?
[20:37] <Agent_bob>  glxinfo | grep vendor  returns three lines with mesa project in one of them.    glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"  says no   but i'm only interested in curing the movie player issue
[20:38] <kakoonia> Hey, is there any bitchx like clients? cause from some security reasons its not available for compilation on 8,04..
[20:38] <shoklowitz> Anyone to help with a Kmixer problem?
[20:38] <Agent_bob> shoklowitz you using arts ?
[20:39] <Agent_bob> !sound | shoklowitz
[20:39] <Drk_Guy> ALSA pwns ARTS?
[20:39] <Drk_Guy> XD
[20:39] <Agent_bob> kakoonia irssi
[20:39] <shoklowitz> It says I'm using ALSA
[20:40] <Agent_bob> shoklowitz is this kde4 ?
[20:40] <kakoonia> is it worthy? whats your prefered?
[20:40] <shoklowitz> Apparently I have an HDA Nvidia card. Everything was working great until I restarted Kmix. Yep it's KDE4 on Hardy.
[20:40] <Agent_bob> kakoonia i use bx  but i also run dapper so...
[20:41] <kakoonia> Heh.. gotcha :)
[20:41] <Drk_Guy> I have that HDA card too shoklowitz
[20:41] <shoklowitz> After the sudo restart -r now, the Fn+Vol is now working great as well the OSD. But Mute doesn't display an OSD, nor does it actually Mute anything.
[20:41] <Drk_Guy> It works fine with ALSA
[20:41] <Drk_Guy> But not with ARTS
[20:41] <Agent_bob> shoklowitz kde4 support is in the other channel though
[20:41] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[20:41] <shoklowitz> Oh
[20:41] <shoklowitz> Yeah, I'm ALSA
[20:42] <shoklowitz> So should ask in the other channel?
[20:42] <Agent_bob> yeah  be more likely to get a good answer
[20:42] <shoklowitz> Ok
[20:42] <shoklowitz> Thanks :)
[20:42] <Agent_bob> np
[20:53] <solidus> hello
[20:54] <BluesKaj> hi solidus
[20:54] <Assurbanipal> hi guys!
[20:54] <solidus> I have been experiencing some trouble with package management in Kubuntu and could really use some help getting things back on track
[20:55] <solidus> is anyone up to the challenge?
[20:55] <Drk_Guy> Guys, which is the name of the KDE cellphone tool?
[20:55] <Drk_Guy> Kandy, right'
[20:55] <Drk_Guy> ?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> which pkg manager, solidus ?
[20:57] <Drk_Guy> apt
[20:57] <solidus> adept
[20:57] <Drk_Guy> lol
[20:58] <solidus> I have a couple of links to two different forums I posted about this on, hold on a sec while I find them :)
[20:59]  * oblenob is gonna go and download Kubuntu
[21:00] <DarthFrog> Is there anyway to force Kmail & Konqueror to use a new Kwallet?  I deleted the Kwallet they were using accidentaly and now they don't use Kwallet at all.
[21:00] <Drk_Guy> oblenob: You can turn ubuntu into kubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:00] <solidus> here are my links to anyone interested
[21:00] <solidus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819973
[21:00] <oblenob> eeh?
[21:00] <solidus> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/123307-adept-manager-problem.html
[21:00] <Drk_Guy> Yes oblenob
[21:00] <oblenob> how?
[21:00] <oblenob> I dont understand
[21:00] <solidus> the second link is the newer of the two
[21:00] <Drk_Guy> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:01] <oblenob> what is that?
[21:01]  * oblenob appologises for being a linux n00b
[21:01] <Drk_Guy> Just type that in terminal
[21:01] <oblenob> I am currently running windows
[21:01] <Drk_Guy> Don't worry oblenob, i was like you
[21:01] <Drk_Guy> Ah!
[21:01] <Drk_Guy> XDDD
[21:01] <oblenob> I cant stand it
[21:01] <oblenob> I am moving over to linux
[21:01] <oblenob> well
[21:01] <oblenob> just about to
[21:02] <Drk_Guy> If you ever want to install gnome, just: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:02] <DarthFrog> Drk_Guy:  Actually, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" would be better.
[21:02] <Drk_Guy> I left windows for good
[21:02] <oblenob> I plan to nearly leave windows
[21:02] <oblenob> my main problem being that I use flash a lot
[21:02] <DarthFrog> Flash works in Linux.
[21:02] <DarthFrog> Unfortunately.
[21:03] <oblenob> flash CS3?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> ok solidus , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock , then sudo dpkg --configure -a , then sudo apt-get update
[21:05] <solidus> ok, could you post to one of the forums if you don't mind?  I am on campus and have to use a proxy to get an IRC connection through windows, and I will have to reboot
[21:06] <da1l6> solidus, cupswrapperhl2040 is not an kubuntu package.  i suggest removing it and try the hl2060 driver: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-2040
[21:07] <BluesKaj> solidus, as for the 50mb partition , unless it was an XP rescue application , the removing it will be fine, and you are correct about having to edit the grubmenu.list to add the windows bootloader
[21:08] <oblenob> looks like flash aint supported on linux :(
[21:08] <oblenob> flash development
[21:08] <solidus> ok all, I am going to reboot and see what I can get done, thanks for your help so far.  Will report back soon
[21:13] <oblenob> how do I work out what I need to download?
[21:13] <oblenob> I have managed to get...
[21:13] <oblenob> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/
[21:13] <oblenob> there
[21:14] <oblenob> but I have no idea what I should be downloading
[21:14] <oblenob> I know it is an ISO
[21:14] <DarthFrog> oblenob: What machine do you have (i.e. CPU)?
[21:14] <oblenob> uum
[21:15] <oblenob> *chechs
[21:15] <oblenob> Pentium 4 CPU 3.40GHz
[21:15] <DarthFrog> oblenob: As a default, get:
[21:15] <DarthFrog> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso
[21:15] <oblenob> cool
[21:16] <oblenob> and when I come to setting up the internet connection
[21:16] <DarthFrog> Burn it to DVD, then boot from it. It'll load as a live CD system.
[21:16] <oblenob> is there anything I have to do?
[21:16] <oblenob> so I will be booted into Kubuntu?
[21:16] <DarthFrog> Try it and see.  if you're using DHCP, it'll work.
[21:17] <SHAMO> hi ..how do i get  nvidia gforce 8500 drivers to work ???
[21:17] <DarthFrog> Yes.  But as a live CD, which will not write to your hard drive by default.
[21:17] <oblenob> okay
[21:17] <oblenob> then
[21:17] <DarthFrog> You can install from the live CD boot, though, there'll be an icon on the desktop.
[21:17] <oblenob> will I be able from there
[21:17] <oblenob> to get all my files saved that I wanna kepp and then install Kubuntu and Get rid of flippin' Windaes
[21:18] <oblenob> ?
[21:18] <DarthFrog> back up your data in Windows first.
[21:18] <oblenob> okay
[21:18] <oblenob> I have no means of backup
[21:18] <oblenob> well
[21:18] <DarthFrog> Play it safe and backup first.
[21:18] <frothir> hi, is there any way to atomaticly switch off the touchpad when i plug in a usb mouse
[21:18] <oblenob> not really
[21:18] <SHAMO> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_173.14.09.html   <----used this one ..but it telling me coundt find it
[21:18] <DarthFrog> oblenob: You can burn a DVD.
[21:18] <oblenob> aah hangon a sec
[21:18] <oblenob> I am on a diferent computer here
[21:18] <oblenob> than the one I plan to run on
[21:19] <oblenob> that one does not have a DVD drive
[21:19] <DarthFrog> Then use Windows networking to grab the files you want to burn to DVD.
[21:19] <oblenob> the one I plan to run it on is not coping with windows
[21:19] <oblenob> I am having trouble running it easily for more than five minutes
[21:20] <BluesKaj> oblenob, have you considered dual booting windows and linux ?
[21:20] <oblenob> no
[21:20] <oblenob> I plan to get rid of windows
[21:20] <BluesKaj> it might be safer for your windows data
[21:20] <oblenob> hmm
[21:20] <oblenob> are there any free Hard Disk partitioning things aroiund?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> windows has it's faults but you may need it in the future , and you can still run linux to your hearts content :)
[21:21] <oblenob> that will work on fudgy slow windows
[21:21] <DarthFrog> oblenob: You can do it from the boot CD, I think.
[21:21] <oblenob> I have Windows on the machine I am on now
[21:21] <DarthFrog> The program will be qtparted.
[21:21] <oblenob> this one keeps windows
[21:22] <DarthFrog> Or gparted.
[21:22] <oblenob> the other one gets the luxury of linux
[21:22] <BluesKaj> GParted Live Cd is the best partition editor IMO
[21:22] <da1l6> you can run gparted from a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[21:22] <hagus> I have installed the Hardy Heron and am wanting to make my default web-server (used for local testing of php scripts mainly) a folder under my User Home Directory.  Is this the right place to ask about that?
[21:22] <DarthFrog> oblenob: Or you can just buy a new hard drive. :-)
[21:22] <oblenob> yah
[21:22] <oblenob> I will do that
[21:22] <oblenob> I am hoping to get an external HD
[21:22] <oblenob> 1 TB
[21:23] <oblenob> I am an editor for an online TV show
[21:23] <oblenob> actually I run thw TV Show myself
[21:23] <oblenob> I am still getting it going
[21:23] <oblenob> and so I will have a LOT of video and audio files
[21:23] <hagus> Is it some Apache file that I need to edit to make my normal place for html/php documents a directory under my User home?
[21:24] <Musashi> Hi! I'd like to have cron run a job in case there are files in a certain directory. as far as I can tell I need to give a filename to use the file tests parameters, but that's not what I want. How can I do that thing? thx :D
[21:24] <DarthFrog> hagus: Yes, the DocumentRoot setting in http.conf.
[21:24] <SHAMO> someone here had trouble with NVIDIA DRIVERS ???
[21:24] <hagus> ty DarthFrog :)
[21:24] <BluesKaj> !nVidia
[21:25] <oblenob> !help
[21:25] <DarthFrog> hagus: I think it's set to /var/www/ by default.
[21:25] <n00bs_r_ppl_too> is kubuntu faster than ubuntu?
[21:26] <hagus> ty darth
[21:26] <hagus> ty DarthFrog :)
[21:26] <DarthFrog> n00bs_r_ppl_too: It's not faster or slower.  it is a different desktop environment.  Ubuntu is GNOME, Kubuntu is KDE.  Different strokes for different folks.
[21:26] <DarthFrog> n00bs_r_ppl_too: KDE is more configurable by the user than GNOME.
[21:27] <n00bs_r_ppl_too> hmm ok
[21:27] <oblenob> KDE is awsome
[21:27] <oblenob> I have friends who use it
[21:27] <pixel386> is there a nice, centralized place for finding kubuntu repos?  I'm primarily looking for some KDE appearance stuff atm (I want me some tango icons that work, window decorations).
[21:27] <oblenob> many friends
[21:28] <DarthFrog> pixel386: Try kde-look.org
[21:28] <NekosolTeraDyne> pixel386: http://www.kde-look.org/
[21:28] <pixel386> NekosolTeraDyne: that's not a repo ;)
[21:28] <pixel386> thanks, though
[21:28] <BluesKaj> !repository
[21:29] <pixel386> *clicky clicky*
[21:30] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know of a migration guide for moving to KDE4 from KDE3?
[21:32] <pixel386> not I, but the guys in #kde are very helpful (when not zombies)
[21:32] <DarthFrog> KDE 4.1 beta 2 has been released.  I just upgraded from beta 1.
[21:33] <pixel386> are you having any specific issues?
[21:33] <DarthFrog> pixel386: yeah, all the config files from KDE3.  Can I just move them to ~/.kde4?
[21:33] <KRF> DarthFrog, try it ;)
[21:34] <pixel386> DarthFrog: doubt it
[21:34] <DarthFrog> Actually, can I just rename ~/.kde to ~/.kde4?
[21:34] <pixel386> DarthFrog: back them up just in case
[21:34] <oblenob> I am off :)
[21:34] <oblenob> downloading Kubuntu now
[21:34] <pixel386> oblenob: good luck! :D
[21:34] <oblenob> I will leave it overnight
[21:34] <DarthFrog> I'd kinda like to keep the gigs of mail I have. All the accounts, passwords, etc.
[21:34] <pixel386> oblenob: remember to burn at a low speed
[21:35] <oblenob> what differce does the burn speed make?
[21:35] <pixel386> DarthFrog: all that stuff should be importable
[21:35] <oblenob> I will burn low yeah
[21:35] <oblenob> I have known to do that for a while
[21:35] <pixel386> DarthFrog: from the KDE 4 apps themselves, that is
[21:35] <oblenob> but why?
[21:35] <DarthFrog> oblenob: It's safer.
[21:35] <pixel386> oblenob: you have a better chance of getting a clean burn
[21:35] <oblenob> aah cool
[21:35] <oblenob> how many attempts did it take you?
[21:35] <pixel386> oblenob: less fast = less wobbly, generally
[21:35] <pixel386> oblenob: just one, I use k3b ;)
[21:36] <oblenob> k3b?
[21:36] <DarthFrog> pixel386: Good point. :-)  Why didn't I think of that?
[21:36] <pixel386> oblenob: the kde burner frontend
[21:36] <oblenob> aah
[21:36] <oblenob> I cant do that :(
[21:36] <DarthFrog> oblenob: K3B is *the* best CD/DVD burning app going.
[21:36] <oblenob> but...
[21:36] <pixel386> oblenob: it automatically does whatever is a reasonably "safe" speed ;)
[21:36] <oblenob> cool
[21:36] <oblenob> what is a reccomended burn speed?
[21:36] <pixel386> DarthFrog: it lets you rip DVDs, too :D.  I just backed up a bunch of mine
[21:36] <DarthFrog> oblenob: And wait till you try Amarok. :-)
[21:36] <pixel386> oblenob: 4x
[21:37] <DarthFrog> pixel386: Oh, I know what K3B can do.  :-)
[21:37] <oblenob> the software I am using has something like 200X as the slowest
[21:37] <oblenob> no
[21:37] <oblenob> 20X
[21:37] <hagus> DarthFrog: I am at /var/www using Dolphin.  What tool do I need to change the permissions for that directory?
[21:37] <pixel386> oblenob: lame.  Well, just make sure that if it's a laptop, it's on a level surface
[21:37] <oblenob> I am using a desktop
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> hagus: you may need to be root
[21:37] <DarthFrog> hagus: From the command line, use the chmod command.
[21:37] <hagus> ta :)
[21:37] <oblenob> I will do a hunt for burning stuffs :)
[21:38] <oblenob> anyways
[21:38] <DarthFrog> Odd-rationale: sudo works fine.
[21:38] <pixel386> oblenob: good luck, then!
[21:38] <oblenob> I need to do some writing :)
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> DarthFrog: yes, that is what i meant...
[21:38] <DarthFrog> Odd-rationale: :-)
[21:38] <pixel386> hagus: if you hate the CLI with a passion, you can always 'kdesu' random things
[21:39] <pixel386> hmm, although I'm not sure if `kdesu dolphin` would necessarily be safe.  Works great, though!
[21:39]  * oblenob is excited
[21:40] <pixel386> oblenob: it'll be even more awesome when kde 4.1 comes out :D
[21:40] <oblenob> should I wait?
[21:40] <hagus> pixel, if I knew what you were saying, I would know whether you were teasing me or helping me :)
[21:40] <oblenob> how easy is it to upgrade?
[21:40] <pixel386> oblenob: nope
[21:40] <pixel386> oblenob: pretty easy, I'd thjink
[21:40] <oblenob> cool
[21:40] <pixel386> oblenob: personally, I'm going to set up a new user for testing stuff out first
[21:40] <hagus> <---- ignorantish fellow :)
[21:40] <DarthFrog> hagus: :-)  Press Alt-F2 and type "kdesu dolphin" in the entry field.
[21:41] <pixel386> oblenob: then I'd back up my kde settings dir, delete the kde3 one, and start fresh w/ KDE 4's settings.
[21:41] <hagus> ty DarthFrog :)
[21:41] <DarthFrog> Then browse to /var and right-click on www.  Select "Properties"
[21:41] <pixel386> oblenob: but that's just because you can do that kinda thing w/ linux ;).  It's probably completely safe
[21:41] <oblenob> cool
[21:41] <oblenob> anyway
[21:41] <oblenob> I got a lot of writing to do
[21:42] <pixel386> ok, go write then!
[21:42] <oblenob> I am trying to make a tutorial for blender
[21:42] <oblenob> bye :)
[21:42] <pixel386> nice :D
[21:42] <oblenob> and thanks for your help
[21:42]  * pixel386 hugs the fish:// protocol thingie
[21:42] <pixel386> np
[21:44] <hagus> The permissions are greyed out and the ownership is given as root for group and user.
[21:45] <DarthFrog> hagus: You used kdesu?
[21:45] <pixel386> `kdesu dolphin` worked like a charm for me
[21:45] <hagus> I had already used the konsole thing that I fetched from the menu of dolphin
[21:45] <pixel386> didn't even ask for a password (a little creepy)
[21:45] <hagus> Does kdesu toggle me back and forth or is it towards sudo only?
[21:45] <pixel386> hagus: do alt+f2, then kdesu dolphin
[21:45] <DarthFrog> hagus: Close that instance of dolphin and go the kdesu route.
[21:46] <hagus> ty both
[21:46] <pixel386> hagus: kdesu gives root perms to a kde app
[21:46] <pixel386> probably any app, really
[21:46] <DarthFrog> hagus: Be careful when running as root (including sudo and kdesu). You can really damage the system if you're not careful.
[21:47] <DarthFrog> <--- who uses "sudo su -"  regularly. :-)
[21:47] <jussi01> DarthFrog: you shouldnt use sudo su - sudo -i is a much better alternative
[21:48] <DarthFrog> jussio1: Actually, I just enabled the root account and was done with it.
[21:48]  * jussi01 wonders if kdesu is now aliased to kdesudo..
[21:50] <SHAMO> damnn cant enter kde anymore after installing nvidia-xconfig ...-_-!!)
[21:51] <DarthFrog> SHAMO:  What happens?
[21:51] <pixel386> SHAMO: oh noes
[21:52] <SHAMO> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  <---did this
[21:52] <SHAMO> but now i get black screen ..
[21:52] <pixel386> jussi01: it is. No wonder there was no passwd request
[21:52] <hagus> sorry - I pressed ctrl -alt - f2 :)
[21:53] <pixel386> SHAMO: time to check the xorg log - /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:53] <DarthFrog> hagus: That's also a very useful key combo.
[21:53] <pixel386> SHAMO: you can upload it to a pastebin like pastebin.ca
[21:53] <hagus> It took me to some scary text prompter :)
[21:53] <pixel386> heh
[21:53] <pixel386> it took you to VT2
[21:54] <hagus> That was it :)
[21:54] <pixel386> it's very handy
[21:54] <pixel386> if xorg dies on you in some way you can always switch to a VT and go to town...
[21:54] <hagus> However, even when I sudo to \var\ww, it tells me that I cannot change the permissions there.
[21:54] <pixel386> like when firefox was triggering memory leaks for me
[21:55] <DarthFrog> hagus: CTL-ALT-F[1-6] takes you to 6 different virtual terminals. ALT-F7 brings you back.
[21:55]  * hagus makes a mental note to only remember alt-f7 :)
[21:55] <DarthFrog> hagus: what permissions do you want?
[21:55] <hagus> Basically, I want to have a directory where I can test out html and php files, using a mysql database.
[21:56] <DarthFrog> Yah but what specific owner/group/world permissions do  you want?
[21:56] <hagus> I want to try the logic of these out before I put them on a website.
[21:56] <DarthFrog> I'll give you the proper chmod command.
[21:56] <hagus> my username on the computer is calum
[21:57] <hagus> So I want calum to be able to have a kind of real or virtual webserver just to test things.
[21:58] <DarthFrog> hagus: Do you know how to configure Apache?
[21:58] <hagus> So only calum would need the permissions I think :)
[21:58] <hagus> I have edited httpd.cnf in the past
[21:58] <hagus> With guidance :)
[21:58] <DarthFrog> Then do it there for your home directory.
[21:59] <solidus> To BluesKaj and da1l6, thanks for your help.  My Kubuntu install is working again and I am very happy! :D :D :D
[21:59]  * hagus goes off to have another go at this thing :)
[21:59] <DarthFrog> hagus: Remember Rule 1.
[22:00] <xenol> when i am working in virtual console, sometimes my X restarts, /var/log/Xorg.log says erros about this http://pastebin.org/45956
[22:00] <xenol> any ideas?
[22:00] <solidus> I have one more quick question, is it possible to use a proxy in Kopete or Konversation?  I can not get an IRC connection through my dorms, unless I run it through a proxy
[22:00] <pixel386> DarthFrog: don't drink and root?
[22:01] <hagus> Rule1?
[22:01] <DarthFrog> pixel386: Ooh, that'd be a good one! :-)
[22:01] <DarthFrog> hagus: Rule 1:  Remember this is supposed to be fun.  Have fun!
[22:01] <DarthFrog> :-)
[22:01]  * pixel386 has fun watching rsync copy over his files
[22:01] <pixel386> yay for rsync
[22:02] <DarthFrog> Rsync rocks!
[22:02] <hagus> lol
[22:02] <pixel386> it truly is awesome.  My laptop died but I was still able to ssh into it and run my rsync backup script... now on the other computer I can rsync the stuff over here :D
[22:03] <pixel386> all while watching Arrested Development on hulu
[22:03] <pixel386> woot
[22:05] <hagus> should httpd.conf be blank by default?
[22:06] <DarthFrog> hagus: Uh, no.
[22:06] <hagus> I installed webmin on my machine.  I wonder if I have messed things up for apache2?
[22:07] <DarthFrog> hagus: Open up a konsole. Type "sudo updatedb". When that command finishes. type "locate httpd.conf".
[22:07] <edj> lost network-manager and trying to install it from dpkg.  but it reports that a dependencyis missing - libnl1-pre6.  there is no such package, it is replaced by libnl1, which i have.  so, what next?
[22:08] <hagus> ty DarthFrog :)
[22:08] <genii> DarthFrog: Actually yes, for he most part. Since the config file is now between apache2.conf and 000-default
[22:08] <DarthFrog> genii: I just installed apache2 and found that out. :-)
[22:09] <DarthFrog> hagus: /etc/apache/apache2.conf is the file  you want.
[22:09] <DarthFrog> genii: The servers I administer run Fedora. :-)
[22:10] <genii> DarthFrog: Different strokes fer different folks. The servers I mainly deal with are FreeBSD for instance
[22:11] <DarthFrog> genii: I like FreeBSD.  It's an excellent system.
[22:12] <DarthFrog> I almost wish that FreeBSD had succeded over Linux.
[22:12] <engineer> it's awesome that we all don't think the same way
[22:12] <DarthFrog> If it had, I wonder what RMS would have wanted it to change its name to?  :-)
[22:13] <yazid> pls french irc
[22:13] <genii> !fr
[22:14] <DarthFrog> FreeGNU?  Naw, that's redundant. GNU-BSD?
[22:14] <Martin80> Hi, haven't been at IRC for a long time, new to this channel.. just a small question: I am running 08.04, the KDE4.1 beta version, and I just updated my desktop machine using apt-get dist-upgrade. Now, after entering my password I get an error message in a pop-up window: Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation. I have created a new user, with a clean home-dir, but same error occurs. Anyone?
[22:15] <genii> BGNU
[22:15] <DarthFrog> genii: Wouldn't that be the GPL version of BeOS? :-)
[22:15] <jussi01> Martin80: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[22:18] <Martin80> hm, jussi01, didn't know about that channel. Thanks :-)
[22:18] <Martin80> bye..
[22:22] <hagus> When I try to use su - I get told that my password is wrong.  I also get this message which I believe to be as a result of webmin installation : Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-calum" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[22:22] <DarthFrog> hagus: the "uid 1000" error is wrong, methinks.
[22:22] <DarthFrog> UID 0 is root.
[22:23] <DarthFrog> UID 1000 should be calum and should own kdecache-calum.
[22:23] <hagus> When I installed webadmin  it requires a https://myhost:10000
[22:24] <DarthFrog> hagus: "su -" won't work unless there is a password set for the root account.
[22:24] <andersin> I just installed the KDE4 beta 2 packages from the ppa repositories and now the KDE4 session is gone, does anyone know how to fix that?
[22:24] <DarthFrog> hagus: Try "sudo su -" instead.
[22:24] <hagus> Sudo seems to work but it still keeps the permissions greyed out.
[22:24] <DarthFrog> hagus: strange.
[22:25] <DarthFrog> hagus: I don't have an answer for you.  is this still with Dolphin?
[22:25] <hagus> Even with konsole
[22:25] <hagus> Have tried it several times now with dolphin
[22:25] <genii> sudo for non gui apps, kdesu/kdesudo for kde graphical apps, gksu/gksudo for gnome/xfce graphical apps
[22:25] <DarthFrog> hagus: I just tried it. It Works For Me (tm). :-)
[22:26] <hagus> hm
[22:26] <genii> sudo on a gui app can really really make your life frustrating
[22:27] <andersin> genii:just use kdesu for that
[22:27] <hagus> When I press alt-f2, I type dolphin into the dialog or is it kdesudo dolphin?
[22:27] <genii> andersin: Yes, thats what I just said earlier. As well as gksu on gnome or xfce gui apps
[22:28] <DarthFrog> hagus: This is somewhat insecure, do not put anything you care about in the directory. From the command line, type "sudo chmod 666 /var/www". That'll change the permissions.
[22:28] <genii> hagus: To run it as your own user no admin rights just the name. To run it with admin rights use kdesu
[22:29] <DarthFrog> hagus: To change it back, "sudo chmod 644 /var/www".
[22:30] <hagus> Hey, permissions are no longer greyed out !
[22:30] <hagus> I was just writing dolphin into the dialog - it seems
[22:30] <hagus> Once I wrote kdesu dolphin - black appeared instead of grey :)
[22:31] <DarthFrog> Umm, isn't that what we told you to do?  :-)
[22:31] <genii> hagus: Yes as per what I just told you... "[17:28] <genii> hagus: To run it as your own user no admin rights just the name. To run it with admin rights use kdesu"
[22:31] <hagus> I think so - but then I pressed CTRL -alt-f2 and found myself in a strange land :)
[22:31]  * genii hands hagus a coffee
[22:32] <DarthFrog> hagus: CTL-ALT-F2 will put you at the command line.  the raw, real stuff.
[22:32]  * hagus must have panicked.
[22:32] <DarthFrog> Where the power is!  hehehe (evil grin).
[22:32]  * hagus is reduced to a quivering jelly
[22:33] <DarthFrog> hagus: If you can work in a GUI console, you can work in a virtual terminal.
[22:34] <hagus> I guess so but I do not work terribly comfortably in the konsole :)
[22:34]  * hagus is old - he started off using DOS :)
[22:34] <DarthFrog> hagus: That's merely a matter of familiarity and knowledge.  The more you use it, the better you use it.
[22:35] <DarthFrog> Time to walk the dog.  Catch y'all later.
[22:35] <hagus> Ty for your help DarthFrog :)
[22:36] <hagus> ty for your help genii :)
[22:39] <delilaz> hello all how can one find out the kernel version of kubuntu?
[22:39] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I stop a process from starting along with kubuntu?
[22:41] <Schuenemann> delilaz, uname -r
[22:43] <delilaz> thx so much schuenemann
[22:53] <Schuenemann> hey, I want to get rid of mysql starting every time I start my system. Do I just have to delete the files mysql, mysql-ndb, mysql-ndb-mgm under /etc/init.d/   ?
[22:56] <JuJuBee> If someone wouldn't mind testing a website for me, I would be appreciative.  I have an issue with FF3 not highlighting multiple selections in a multiple selection list.  FF2 fine, opera fine, konqueror fine. knichel.org/multiple.html
[22:58] <hagus> Using http:// rather than file:/// how would I access /home/calum/Documents/webroot ?
[22:58] <JuJuBee> You running apache?
[22:59] <hagus> yes
[22:59] <ubuntu> I just got a" error 15 file not found" when ever I try and boot now. What the heck happend?
[22:59] <ubuntu> pc wont boot now
[22:59] <JuJuBee> I do not think apache will point to your Documents, only your public_html folder
[23:00] <JuJuBee> http://localhost/~username  = /home/username/public_html
[23:00] <hagus> 11, 14, 17, 18, 20 highlight for me using ff3, JuJuBee
[23:00] <JuJuBee> Hmm, not for me.
[23:00] <JuJuBee> Trying to figure out why.
[23:00] <JuJuBee> Have lates ff
[23:00] <JuJuBee> hardy up to date
[23:00] <JuJuBee> Nothing highlights...
[23:00] <hagus> ty JuJuBee :)
[23:01] <ubuntu> I'm using 7.10
[23:01] <JuJuBee> np
[23:01] <hagus> The ones I mentioned highlight in orange - the others do not highlight.
[23:01] <JuJuBee> Really stumped with this one.
[23:02] <JuJuBee> Correct, I want some to highlight some to not
[23:02] <JuJuBee> Depends on data from db
[23:04] <unixboy1> hi guys i have last ubuntu version and i have a wireless card installed
[23:04] <unixboy1> i see it in lspci
[23:05] <unixboy1> but it not working..
[23:05] <unixboy1> i type iwconfig
[23:05] <unixboy1> nothing at all
[23:05] <unixboy1> someone coudl help me ou
[23:05] <unixboy1> ou
[23:05] <unixboy1> out*
[23:05] <hagus> now all highlight on being clicked, JuJuBee
[23:05] <hagus> ALL
[23:06] <JuJuBee> Of course,  you are selecting them.  I wish some to be pre-selected after a db lookup.
[23:06] <JuJuBee> I can highlight all if I want.
[23:06] <hagus> ah - ok :)
[23:06] <JuJuBee> The default selections are not highlighted.
[23:06] <unixboy1> someone could help me out how to install my netowkr card
[23:06] <JuJuBee> That is my problem.
[23:06] <unixboy1> it detected in lspci but i cannot install
[23:07] <unixboy1> i mea  cannot use
[23:07] <ubuntu> I just got a" error 15 file not found" when ever I try and boot now. What do you think happend?
[23:08] <JuJuBee> The OS could not find the file?
[23:08] <NickPresta> If I use an LVM setup from another distro (openSUSE 11), will it be any trouble to overwrite my suse installation with Kubuntu (given that the partition scheme is LVM)?
[23:08] <unixboy1> wow no one coudl heklp me here?..
[23:08] <ubuntu> yeah, its in grub
[23:09] <ubuntu> its a little slow tonight unixboy1
[23:11] <unixboy1> no one got a solution huh...........
[23:15] <marioguy> i broke the silence
[23:17] <darkdelusions> Lies :) my joining the channel broke the silence
[23:18] <bassem> guys ... is there any way i can turn on direct rendering ?
[23:18] <awidegreen> got someone hotwire working on hardy emt64 ? i get the following error: bus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session
[23:18] <awidegreen> kde 3.5...
[23:26] <alirio> hi
[23:26] <alirio> somebody knows if there are some program or some plugins that can make
[23:26] <alirio> minimiza the reproductor but like windows media 11
[23:27] <alirio> i mean that can show the videos in a samll screen
[23:27] <alirio> s?
[23:27] <alirio> nobody??????
[23:28] <alirio> ok
[23:28] <alirio> bye
[23:29] <alirio> s
[23:29] <nahy> hello. I have trouble with updating to kde4 beta 2
[23:30] <darkdelusions> nahy: Hit up the kubuntu-kde4 channel they would be the best to help ya out
[23:31] <nahy> ok  thanks
[23:37] <solemnwarning> Hi all
[23:37] <bassem> guys ... is there any way i can turn on direct rendering on ATI 9550
[23:38] <solemnwarning> I'm gonna be configuring a kubuntu machine for a first-time Linux user, what do you think would be best out of KDE3 and KDE4?
[23:45] <bassem> guys ... is there any way i can turn on direct rendering on ATI 9550
[23:46] <BluesKaj> bassem, are you runnng the default restricted ATI driver
[23:46] <BluesKaj> ?
[23:46] <delilaz> hello everyone I was wondering if there's a way to update the linux kernel? My current one is 2.6.15
[23:47] <BluesKaj> yeah delilaz , make sure your adept notifier is functioning
[23:48] <bassem> BluesKaj:  no ... wt is it ?
[23:49] <delilaz> it is, I think... if I do sudo apt-get updates... could that work???
[23:49] <BluesKaj> bassem, when you installed hardy and rebooted did you see an option to use a restricted driver pop up dialog box ? if not then you'll ahve to search for the linux driver for your graphics
[23:50] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update , yes
[23:50] <BluesKaj> adept is apt gui delilaz
[23:51] <delilaz> yes thx I knew that at least :)
[23:54] <Ian_Buell> guys - need a little help... trying to install kubuntu and get an error message "executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed.  This is a fatal error.
[23:55] <Ian_Buell> at 94% complete it quits installing
[23:56] <candive> Anyone know why the load of ubuntu freezes during install. I lost the link to the answer.thank you
[23:57] <Ian_Buell> anyone know why?
[23:58] <el1te> is there any older versions of kubuntu that have "BTAUDIO module enabled"
[23:58] <delilaz> Hey BluesKaj, nothing comes up, is there a way to fetch and install the latest kernel manually?
[23:58] <BluesKaj> lookin adept
[23:59] <nowshining> does anyone know the patch, etc..that kubuntu uses to patch pango with? ie: to integrate more  closely with kubuntu or compile option? as somethnings aren't integrated well with the vanilla pango. :D
[23:59] <el1te> i have to have the BTAUDIO module
[23:59] <delilaz> BluesKaj: and search for "kernel"
[23:59] <candive> I was trying to load ubuntu to a p 4 it froze
[23:59] <el1te> im guessing its gonna be in a 2.4 kernel.....so was there any kubuntu live cd versions that used 2.4 kernel?